Violent Anti-ICE Protests Continue To Rock MN

Summary

The Five — Podcast Summary

Episode: Violent Anti-ICE Protests Continue To Rock MN
Date: January 14, 2026
Panel: Dana Perino (Host), Kellyanne Conway, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Watters, Greg Gutfeld, Megan Alexander

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Overview

This episode of The Five dives into the ongoing violent anti-ICE protests in Minneapolis, the political fallout and polarization over immigration enforcement, and the shifting dynamics within both major political parties in the U.S. The cast discusses the facts around the recent Minneapolis ICE incident, debates the future direction of ICE and U.S. immigration policy, and highlights broader trends like the Democratic Party’s move leftward, President Trump’s global ambitions (Greenland and Iran), and pop culture moments shaping news cycles.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Anti-ICE Protests in Minneapolis: Facts, Politics & Media Spin

• Incident Recap & Details

  • Dana Perino outlines the new information: an ICE agent suffered internal bleeding after being rammed by Renee Good (the woman who was shot and killed), contradicting earlier reports from Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey that downplayed the agent's injuries ([01:34]).
  • Political blowback on Mayor Frey for both his stance against ICE and subsequent public shift.

• Democratic Infighting Over ICE

  • A center-left group warns Democrats not to promote “abolish ICE”; internal debates erupt, with some supporting the agency’s elimination and others arguing for reform ([02:16]).

• Political Performances

  • Satirical calls to impeach DHS Secretary Kristi Noem and “abolish ICE” echo the polarized atmosphere ([02:54], [03:07]).

  • Kellyanne Conway underscores the practical need for ICE, blaming sanctuary city policies for the agency's presence and tying local crime spikes directly to Democratic leadership in Minneapolis ([03:41]).

    “ICE exists because sanctuary cities exist… Law enforcement officers are being attacked for doing their job.”
    — Kellyanne Conway ([03:41])

• Historical Context

  • The panel recalls the 2016 CNN “ride-along” with ICE, contrasting past media acceptance of ICE with current outrage and rising violence ([05:27]).
  • Gutfeld and Conway criticize Democratic “flip-flopping” on immigration enforcement since the Trump presidency.

2. Debate: Reforming vs. Abolishing ICE

• Jessica Tarlov's Reform Proposal

  • Suggests restoring longer agent training, only detaining/targeting those with criminal convictions, prohibiting ICE from demanding ID from citizens, mandating de-escalation tactics, and requiring visible agent identification ([06:56]).
  • She urges caution in Democratic messaging: “I think that Democrats have to be very careful about that... There is a better way — you want to talk about reform, that's one thing. But when you say just straight up abolish, it’s very easy to chop that up and put that in an ad from the right attacking the left.”
    ([06:59])

• Conservative Rebuttal

  • Gutfeld and Watters counter the idea that ICE is the bad actor, highlighting criminal releases and the hostile protesting environment.
  • Watters challenges Tarlov’s ideas about IDs and the practicalities of verifying citizenship status ([09:54]).

    “How else is a federal agent going to know if someone here is in the country legally or not if they can't ask for paperwork?”
    — Jesse Watters ([10:12])

  • Gutfeld points to the scale of illegal immigration as the reason for ICE’s struggles, blaming Democrats' border policies:

    “You wouldn't have needed a vast operation if you hadn't opened the border and let in 10 million people in the last four years. ... This is on the Dems. It's not on ICE.”
    — Greg Gutfeld ([13:10])

3. Broader Political and Media Landscape

• Media Rotation

  • Discussion on the lack of mainstream media coverage except when ICE is cast negatively; reference to recent “obscure” Democratic positions, such as the party’s growing discomfort with the “defund” slogan ([15:40]).

• Trump, Greenland, and Iran

  • President Trump reportedly interested in acquiring Greenland and addressing threats in Iran; panelists debate U.S. strategic interests and draw historical comparisons to previous territorial acquisitions ([16:52]–[24:40]).
  • Dana Perino likens the Greenland proposal to Seward’s Alaska purchase:

    “You could make a case that everything we want to do in Greenland to protect our hemisphere, that they would allow us to do... there’s a deal to be made here.”
    — Dana Perino ([18:43])

  • Tarlov raises the sovereignty issue and risks to NATO cohesion:

    “You have a pan-European fleet coming to back up Greenland... No one would be happier if NATO was disbanded than Vladimir Putin.”
    — Jessica Tarlov ([25:51])

• Shifting Party Labels and Liberal Ascendancy

  • CNN poll shows a record share of Democrats identifying as liberal; panel jabs at the implications, the ambiguity of labels, and the loss of “conservative Democrat” archetypes:

    “Is allowing men who identify as women into women's bathrooms enlightened? ... Has the woke effectively slayed liberalism?”
    — Greg Gutfeld ([29:55])

  • Tarlov points to growing American identification as independent, and the ideological volatility since 2020 ([31:10]).

4. Cultural Moments & Listener Relations

• Trump Flips Off a Heckler

  • President Trump gives a “one-finger salute” to a Ford worker accusing him of being a “pedophile protector,” prompting a reflection on authenticity versus decorum in politics:

    “And this is why we love him, because he doesn't hide who he really is.”
    — Jesse Watters ([34:16])

  • Tarlov shrugs off the controversy, emphasizing free speech rights on both sides ([35:09]).

• Segment: Revenge Bedtime Procrastination

  • Discussion about how Americans intentionally sacrifice sleep for personal time, panelists share their own habits ([37:08]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Democrats’ change of tune about ICE:

  “They changed their tune in 2016 because Donald Trump got elected and he ran successfully on this issue.”
  — Kellyanne Conway ([04:41])

• On melting political labels:

  "Instead of asking people how they define themselves, ask them what the definition means to them. ... What is being a liberal, right?"
  — Greg Gutfeld ([29:55])

• On Trump’s border/ICE approach:

  "You wouldn't have needed a vast operation if you hadn't opened the border and let in 10 million people in the last four years. That's on you.”
  — Greg Gutfeld ([13:10])

• On party authenticity:

  "They get some woman that was in the military... she gets on the debate stage and she's like, 'I'm for security and safety and affordability.' So then they win, and then they start voting and they're like, 'Oh, yeah, yeah, snip little Johnny's testicles out.' ... That's your problem. You guys lie."
  — Jesse Watters ([32:21])

• On U.S. foreign acquisitions:

  “Alaska was to stop Russia... The list goes on and on. NATO is stronger and tougher because of President Trump.”
  — Kellyanne Conway ([22:17])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• ICE Protest Incident Recap: [01:34]
• Democratic Debates on ICE: [02:16]
• Kellyanne's Critique of Sanctuary Cities: [03:41]
• CNN’s 2016 ICE Coverage Flashback: [05:27]
• Jessica’s ICE Reform Proposal: [06:59]
• Gutfeld's ICE Defense and Blame Assignment: [13:10]
• Media Critique and "Whip Gate" Callback: [15:40]
• Trump–Greenland–Iran Segment: [16:52]–[24:40]
• Democratic Party Liberal Shift Discussion: [27:19]–[32:53]
• Trump Flipping Off a Heckler: [32:58]
• Revenge Bedtime Procrastination segment: [37:08]
• "One More Thing"/Closing Playful Segments: [39:17]–[41:33]

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Tone and Content Notes

• The tone is energetic, combative, and distinctly partisan, with characteristic sarcasm and humor (especially from Gutfeld and Watters).
• Well-worn lines about media bias, Democratic hypocrisy, and culture war issues are staples throughout.
• Jessica Tarlov often plays the foil, advocating for reform and nuance, while the other panelists push for pointed criticism and defense of conservative/Trump-aligned politics.

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This summary covers the critical debates, most memorable soundbites, and context for the continuing ICE protests, partisan policy shifts, and culture flavor that defines The Five.

Transcript

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[Dana Perino]

Hello everyone. I'm Dana Perino along with Kellyanne Conway, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Waters, and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five.

[Jesse Waters]

Did we do? Oh yeah. Happy fourth of July.

[Dana Perino]

Those were violent protests that are continuing to unfold in Minneapolis against ICE officers as we get brand new details on the injuries sustained by the agent who fatally shot Renee Good. DHS sources say he suffered internal bleeding to his torso. They say it happened after Good rammed her car into him. Now that's a far cry from the hip injury from a refrigerator door that Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry said occurred. Meanwhile, a center left organization is releasing a memo warning the Democratic Party to avoid pushing the slogan abolish ice. And Mayor Fry is singing a different tune one full week since telling ICE agents to get out of his city.

[Jesse Waters]

Do you support abolishing ice? I do not support abolishing ice. However, I absolutely oppose the way that this administration is conducting themselves with us. Look, there are a number of entities presently lawsuit says that, hey, you know, ICE doing ICE stuff is not what we're talking about right now. Again, we've had ICE in our city.

[Dana Perino]

Before, but other Democrats, they beg to differ. Lawmakers are toying with the idea of defunding ICE or impeaching DHS Secretary Kristi Noem.

[Jesse Waters]

I ask Kristi Noem be impeached.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I ask that ICE be abolished.

[Dana Perino]

God will judge you and Democrats are.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Going to remove you from office.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Christine Noem has got to go. We will not stop fighting until we.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Achieve real justice and accountability. That must begin with impeaching Kristi Noem.

[Jesse Waters]

There's no way in hell I'm voting.

[Megan Alexander]

To give one cent to Trump and Kristi Noem's ice.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Not one more dime for Donald Trump's ICE operations.

[Megan Alexander]

I do not support an increase in ICE funding.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Can in good conscience support an agency that is so out of control.

[Dana Perino]

Kellyanne, the bat signal for the Democrats have gone out. It's not one more dime for ice. Be prepared to hear a lot of that.

[Megan Alexander]

Yes, I think repetition equals reiteration, equals the facts. But here are the facts. ICE exists because sanctuary cities exist. In large part, we're watching ICE go into sanctuary cities because sanctuary cities are telling Americans the federal law is not real. You can break it. Our law is if you cross illegally, you've broken the law. When ICE can't get backup, if they're assaulted, they're antagonized. At worse, they can't get backup from local law enforcement. They're out there because they're trying to find the criminals on their own. They should be working in concert with local law enforcement. So that's problem number one. Problem number two is Minneapolis. You have Tim Waltz has. He's released more than 470 criminal illegal aliens from Minnesota's jails. And They've got roughly 1360 violent criminals in custody. Now they can get back on the street with the way they're coddling criminals in Minneapolis. Look, you're rolling the tape. Other networks won't show this. This is what's happening in real time. Law enforcement officers are being attacked and they're being attacked for doing their job. The other thing is, I know everybody can go to social media and pick a clip, any clip, Dana, of their favorite Nancy Pelosi, Barack ob, Joe Biden, anyone whose last name is Clinton. I'm sure Chelsea got in there as well, saying that we have to have a nation of borders, saying you've got to deport people, saying that people who shouldn't be here, if you're a criminal, if you came here illegally, you're out. They changed their tune in 2016 because Donald Trump got elected and he ran successfully on this issue. In May of 2016, CNN had an entire day, a ride along with ice.

[Dana Perino]

Can I play that for everybody?

[Megan Alexander]

Let's play that because people need to see this.

[Dana Perino]

All right, here's CNN in 2016, riding with ICE.

[Megan Alexander]

Just before the sun rises in the.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Windy City, Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Fan out across Chicago to arrest criminals in the US Illegally.

[Jesse Waters]

Tack one, tack two. Tag three.

[Jessica Tarlov]

CNN was granted exclusive access to witness.

[Dana Perino]

Some of Those raids believe it was. It was 2016.

[Megan Alexander]

It was May of 2016. Originally, they did a segment entitled A Day with ICE in a quote, so called Sanctuary City. ICE arrested the wrong person that day while CNN was with him. It said they made a mistake. CNN had no problem with it. They said mistakes are going to happen. But six months later, Donald Trump becomes president. Everybody in the Democratic Party decides they have a different view. And as millions more people came here illegally, that many more Democrats ran away from their position of enforcing the law. This is all about politics. This is all about. Look, look at the violence against people's property and their lives. And just the last point, I know people are now putting in their polls all this nonsense about what do you think about ICE after what happened in Minneapolis and how much trust you have in institutions. Folks, they don't trust the media, the mainstream media, and they don't trust Congress for a reason. You've earned that over time. I would beg the sanctuary cities and sanctuary states like the one Cory Booker is, senator of my home state of New Jersey, to stop that and start complying with our federal law enforcement officers before more people get hurt.

[Dana Perino]

Jessica, where do you land today? Lots to talk about.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah, there is a lot. I land on the side of not wanting to run another campaign with defund the police Akin slogan out there. And I think that Democrats have to be very careful about that. There's a group called Search Polite that put out a memo saying there is a better way. You want to talk about reform, that's one thing. But when you say just straight up abolish, it's very easy to chop that up and put that in an ad from the right attacking the left. And instead, you should have some proposals. So I came up with my new ICE proposal. Okay, so first and foremost, the training threshold has to go back to what it was. So three to five months, not this 47 days. The truncated version. The people who are being detained have to have convictions and it must be the majority of them. So that has to be worse first, which Tom Holman claims that they're doing. We have seen evidence that directly contradicts that. Number three, Americans cannot be detained, asked for their papers. We do not run a country where you were asked for your papers. You have to have ICE that engages in de escalation tactics. And Brian o', Hara, who is the Minneapolis police chief, gave a very long interview to the New York Times where he talked about the fact that the way ICE is doing their business is creating absolute havoc in Minneapolis from pulling people out of their cars and just leaving the cars, sometimes even still in drive. So cars are like rolling down the hill, leaving pets in there, pepper spraying people. And he is someone who talks about the fact that he's worked with ICE his whole career. He used to be in Newark, N.J. doesn't have a problem with ICE. He wants them to do it the right way. And lastly, identification of ICE agents must be displayed. I understand in Minneapolis you would want to face guard. It's also freezing. But we need to know who these people are, I think. Well, because if they're.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Why is that important? You don't care about protesters.

[Jessica Tarlov]

What do you mean?

[Greg Gutfeld]

You don't care about the protesters wearing masks. Well, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Well, a, you're not really sorry, but it's cute when you say it. And B, there is a massive difference between someone who is federal law enforcement, who has a gun and is legally obligated to tell you who they are so they can write down your badge number and look you up.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Also, you can dox them too.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Okay.

[Greg Gutfeld]

And you can. You can put a target on their back and there is no shoot them.

[Jessica Tarlov]

There is no problem with guys wearing masks, throwing people into unmarked vehicles. Anyway, I gave you a responsible proposal.

[Jesse Waters]

Well, I'll just go through it one by one. This guy who engaged with Good was very well trained. He was there from 2007. First with Border Patrol, 15 with ICE. Extremely well trained. Are you saying that we can only deport people with criminal convictions? We would love to, but you released them from the jail. Number three, you said.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Do you want me to remind you, America, you can't ask for people's papers. You can't ask.

[Jesse Waters]

How are you supposed to know if they have an ID or not?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Jessica, I don't know who they are. You cannot go up to American citizen and be like Jessica.

[Jesse Waters]

You either have an American passport, driver's license, or you don't. How else are you gonna know?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Americans have said, I am an American.

[Jesse Waters]

You asked me. Answer my question. How else is a federal agent going to know if someone here is in the country legally or not? If they can't ask for paperwork, they.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Have to ask you, first of all, if you are an American citizen, not asking for proof of it. And what has happened repeatedly is that people say, yeah, I am, and then they stop. Should know who you're picking up. That's the point in this. We have people that they know because they have.

[Jesse Waters]

So they're not allowed check.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Jackie, I would love how you would be able to be pulled out of a car and be like, give me your papers.

[Jesse Waters]

Okay, yeah. And I. I get pulled about license and registration and I give my papers.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Speeding or driving drunk.

[Dana Perino]

No.

[Jesse Waters]

They could call you, pull me over for running stop signs.

[Megan Alexander]

Theoretically, local law enforcement should help.

[Jesse Waters]

You also say that they're the ones creating havoc. They're not out there smashing vehicles. They're not out there. Women are pulling lug nuts out of ICE vehicles. They're the ones hitting them. They're throwing bottles of urine at their head. Jessica. They're the ones creating chaos. And then you said something. What else did you say?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Oh, yeah, you can your id.

[Jesse Waters]

Okay. Do you know that these people have bounties on their heads from cartels? Are you aware of that? These are men who are armed, who volunteered to serve the country, who are doing raids against foreign fugitives, and women are getting in the middle of it. The women aren't trained. The women aren't up for this. You guys are the ones that are making it really dangerous. It's unnatural for women to put themselves in this type of dangerous situation. And it's sick and it's grotesque and it's not very chivalrous for the Democrat brass to foist them in the middle of dangerous situations. That's putting them in danger and ICE in danger.

[Dana Perino]

Thanks for gut, Phelps. I mean, best for last.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, I agree with you on that. You know, when I hear these, These few stories about people being pulled from cars, I don't care. Because the people that are reporting you on this have no credibility because they never bothered to report a single case of the thousands of violent felons, criminals captured and deported by ice. Maybe if you showed a little fair and balanced reporting on the stuff that was going on before, the murderers or the rapists, and also, to Jesse's point, the ones that are released, then we might, I don't know, respect your opinion, but we don't. Number two, there's no vast operation that can be perfect. And you wouldn't have needed a vast operation if you hadn't opened the border and let in 10 million people in the last four years. You wanna know why the training is truncated? Figure it out. We needed more ICE agents because there were 10 million people in here. We needed to shorten the training. That's on you. Okay? If it wasn't for your malfeasance on the border, this wouldn't be. We wouldn't even be in this situation. So this is on the Dems. It's not on ice. You Know, if only people had pointed or predicted that this would happen. Oh, yeah, it was Bill Milluchin. It was the years that FOX did this coverage on the border that no one else did in the media who are now covering ice. They're now covering it wall to wall. They didn't do a damn thing before. By the way, you know, these demonstrations, why do they keep demonstration. The story is over. We know the tape. We know what happened. They're demonstrating still. So more people get hurt. They need another person to get hurt to maintain this. And we know this. It's obvious the groups that trained the agit them to make themselves indistinguishable from real people when the shit goes down. So you get caught in a bad situation, suddenly I'm going to the doctor, I'm dropping off my kids. What does that do? That increases the risk to actual real people who might be caught at the wrong place at the wrong time. And no doubt that can happen in a vast operation. But cops don't know that. So who's confusing the police? Is it the police? Is it the legitimate people trying to get to work? No, it's the people deliberately trying to create the chaos you're talking about. Oh, they want to abolish ice. The reason why they're taking away this statement is because they know what's the next step. All right, you guys want to abolish ice. What do you guys want to do? They haven't thought of that. They don't have an answer. So they realize that that makes them look even dumber. Because then, by the way, these are professional freelance agitators. They just got fresh off the. You know, because they have a truce in Israel, in Gaza. This was the next thing. And Kellyanne made a great point. There's quite a difference that party and pigment makes. You know, under Obama, they treated ICE with respect. Look at how they're deporting these criminals now. They call them the Gestapo, which is so strange because if they really actually believe they were the Gestapo, would they be running in front of them and challenging them to things? No, they wouldn't. So there's some dishonesty there. The great tragedy of the Democratic Party is there are many things that they cherished, which is science, mental health care, safe streets, civil order, border. They all care for women's rights. Women's rights. None of that stuff has changed. But they have. Why? Because the. They're not in power. They all hate this stuff.

[Dana Perino]

It's a great point about the media. I remember asking Bill Milluchin sometimes Like, are there any other reporters?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Not at all. And now they care.

[Dana Perino]

No, can't find.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Now they care. It goes back to Whip Gate. They didn't care about the border until they thought they had a border agent and they just went crazy. And then they realized they were wrong. They walked away.

[Dana Perino]

But Biden and Karine Jean Pierre never walked away from that. They never apologized.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah. Where is that other dude? That loser Mayorkas. Where is he? Somebody should put him on a milk cart.

[Megan Alexander]

I saw him near Tate in Georgetown.

[Dana Perino]

Of course. Right up next, mega goes global. President Trump eyeing action in both Iran and Greenland.

[Megan Alexander]

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[Jesse Waters]

President Trump holding an open house for Greenland. Marco Rubio and JD Vance sitting down with officials from Denmark and the mineral rich country. The Danes were ripping pre meeting sigs before playing hardball. They're refusing to give up Greenland and citing a fundamental disagreement. However, they will form a high level working group to address their differences. But Trump is warning if Russia or China shows up looking to squat, they're going to need a bigger dog sled. We need Greenland for national security.

[Greg Gutfeld]

If we don't go in, Russia is.

[Jesse Waters]

Going to go in and China is going to go in.

[Dana Perino]

On NATO right now it sounds like.

[Jessica Tarlov]

You are saying that you would potentially.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Acquire Greenland by force.

[Jessica Tarlov]

That would be a NATO country, the United States.

[Dana Perino]

Are you saying that?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Would you do that?

[Greg Gutfeld]

No. You're saying that, would you?

[Jesse Waters]

I didn't say it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

No. You're telling me that that's what I'm going to do.

[Jesse Waters]

You don't know what I'm going to do.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I can't rely on Denmark being able.

[Jesse Waters]

To fend themselves off. You know, they were talking about they.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Put an extra dog and they were serious about this. They put an extra dog sled there. Last month they added a second dog sled. That's not going to do the trick.

[Jesse Waters]

President Trump also weighing military action against Iran as the Islamic regime slaughters its citizens. But earlier, Trump said he got word that the killing has stopped.

[Greg Gutfeld]

We've been told that the killing in Iran is stopping and it's stopped and.

[Jesse Waters]

It'S stopping and there's no plan for executions or an execution or executions.

[Greg Gutfeld]

So I've been told that on good.

[Jesse Waters]

Authority we'll find out about it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I'm sure if it happens, we'll all be very upset.

[Jesse Waters]

All right. Dana Perino, you are very good with your predictions. Oh, what is your prediction about Greenland? Do we acquire it in one way or the other?

[Dana Perino]

I think so. I do a couple things. I was talking this morning with Hemmer about Seward's Folly. Do you know Seward's Folly? Right.

[Jesse Waters]

Alaska.

[Dana Perino]

So Seward buys Alaska for $7 million. He's laughed at. He's like, what a waste. That's so stupid. In today's money, that would be like buying all of Alaska for $150 million. And it turned out to be one strategically good and great for fishing and things like that. In the winter, I know you care. I mean, the summer, I know you care about things like that. I do believe that you could make a case that everything we want to do in Greenland to protect our hemisphere, that they would allow us to do. I think you can make a case and I'm sure that's what the Danes and the Greenlanders told our team today. But one of the issues that President Trump is concerned about, he's thinking like a CEO, he's thinking not about next year. And the dog said he's thinking 10, 15, 20, 25 years down the road, Europe has gotten very close to China and they've already admitted they basically can't fend off Russia. So I think it would be in their interest and our interest. It seems to me like there's a deal to be made here. I don't think it needs to be taken by force or that it will be taken by force. I don't believe that. But I think there's a deal to be made here and I think would be a good one for Greenland, too.

[Jesse Waters]

Yeah. And Europe's not making love, Greg. That's a dying continent and one of these days it's going to go poof. How are they going to defend it?

[Greg Gutfeld]

But why buy when you can just trade? I mean, do we really need at this point, Minneapolis, now we're talking. Just. Why don't we just a one for one trade. They get more people. The Danes, Denmark. Really? We're listening to them. They're like the RA on a dorm floor. You know they're coming out. You can't do that. It's past 10 o'.

[Dana Perino]

Clock.

[Greg Gutfeld]

We don't care.

[Dana Perino]

Look.

[Greg Gutfeld]

With Greenland, you're in the negotiating phase with Trump and if you still react the same way.

[Jesse Waters]

Look at this guy.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Who is that?

[Jesse Waters]

It's the guy from Denmark.

[Greg Gutfeld]

See what I mean?

[Megan Alexander]

Since Pete Buttigieg had his bike going this.

[Dana Perino]

I think it was a security guy.

[Megan Alexander]

Okay.

[Jesse Waters]

The whole crew doesn't look Great. Dana, look at him.

[Dana Perino]

I know. He's got a pipe, though. I mean, if that happened. A pipe. That's pretty good look.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes, that's pretty good look. This is how you decide, Jessica. By their walk. Okay, so in every negotiating phase, Trump takes the most extreme position at the start. And if you don't understand that by now, I'm going to use the R word, you're wrong. So he starts at the extreme because why wouldn't you? When you enter a contract negotiation, the worst thing you could do is offer a number that your bosses like because then they, then they have no respect for you and then they reduce it by 2/3 and then you're screwed. This is why in my contract I always begin by asking for the severed head of Brian Kilmeade.

[Jesse Waters]

You work back from there.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Can I say something about Iran though? Because things are happening in Iran. I just want to know where. All the accusations of genocide by those loud voices that falsely accused Israel of genocide when they were hunting and killing Hamas, what happened here? You've got actual victims and no voices from all those sign carrying people who were so empathetic, all those fart brains who shouted genocide. And now why are they shouting genocide anymore about Israel? Why? Because there was no evidence. There was no ruling by any international body. There was no finding. So they just kind of. We knew it was all a lie.

[Jesse Waters]

And Kellyanne, it does look like according to Trump, things are de escalating, hopefully.

[Megan Alexander]

Yeah, that sounds like today's news. But at the same time they're not to be trusted. And I saw a preview of our Bret Bears interview tonight with the Foreign Minister of Iran who said, well, President Trump can't make the same mistake they made in June. We didn't think that was a mistake. We think that could be in every six month event if it needs to be challenging the nuclear capability. The President was rightly applauded for doing that. I'd like to get back to Greenland. I talked today to Governor Jeff Landry of Louisiana, who the President named as special envoy for Greenland. And we went through the whole list. You know, the Louisiana Purchase was not out of generosity. It was to stop France from controlling Mississippi. Alaska was to stop Russia from being on its doorstep. We supported Panama breaking away from Colombia because it had an important canal. And the list goes on and on. NATO is stronger and tougher because of President Trump. And Mark Ruti, the Secretary General of NATO has said that. He said, but for President Trump, this last year, 2025, the NATO countries would not be paying 5% toward the common defense. They're doing that. Look, the Arctic shelf is melting and it's becoming a corridor. Their surveillance gaps will be closed. I think that transportation infrastructure gets easier. This is not just some crusade to go and bother a sovereign nation. This is of national security and strategic importance. We've done it before. Britain did it. Gibraltar. This is not new. The president is not going to go in there with force. He just said that. In fact, he shot down the reporter that was saying it. And I want to just say something to our liberal friends, since they like to be called liberal again. Next segment. You're never upset that China and Russia are in Greenland. You're upset that the US Would want to acquire Greenland fairly and squarely, face to face. Look what just happened in Venezuela. China made a big play in Latin America and Maduro was their. He was their crown jewel. And what they did was what China did was it went into Latin America and basically said, if you stop supporting Taiwan, we'll build ports and we'll help you with your infrastructure and we'll buy your soybeans and your other goods. And now they've got Maduro, the crown jewel, out of there. It's going to be very difficult for China to continue with the same kind of inroads in Latin America. They were swirling around trying to get the oil out of Venezuela. Trump gets in there and does it instead. China and Russia are already there. That's the choice on the table. The US Or China or Russia. And I'd like all Americans, regardless of party, to think of it that way.

[Jesse Waters]

Jessica Naito called Trump Daddy. Why won't they give Daddy what he wants?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Because sometimes Daddy needs to be told. No, that's just the facts on the table.

[Greg Gutfeld]

By who pay by the hour for.

[Jessica Tarlov]

That, by anyone who has the guts to do it. And it seems like the Danish foreign minister, the Danish prime Minister, the head of Greenland, that they've got the stuff and they're saying NATO will disband if this happens. It will be an attack on a NATO country. And that's.

[Jesse Waters]

Whose side are you on?

[Jessica Tarlov]

I'm on the side of America. Also Green. No, no, no, no. Absolutely not.

[Jesse Waters]

Oh, okay.

[Jessica Tarlov]

The lack of respect for a sovereign nation that, as Dana said, would be very willing to come to the table and have a conversation with us about basically everything that they want to do.

[Greg Gutfeld]

But.

[Jessica Tarlov]

But based on what he said afterwards, he just heard, we're taking it. It's going to be ours. And I get it that you like the way that Trump does diplomacy, maybe more than I do. You like the way that he talks. You understand his weaves or his bobs or whatever. But you have a pan European fleet coming to back up Greenland. You have the Germans and the French.

[Jesse Waters]

A European fleet. That's the funniest thing you said all day.

[Jessica Tarlov]

No one would be happier they have one aircraft if NATO was disbanded than Vladimir Putin. And Kellyanne, you. I don't know what liberals think about Russia and China influence. Donald Trump was the one who rolled out the red carpet quite literally for Putin. Got nothing from it because tried again.

[Megan Alexander]

Got nothing from it. And it's going to be in the White House.

[Jessica Tarlov]

And Donald Trump, not only did he not interfere in the election, but he wants what's best for Ukraine, which made everybody, including Zelensky have to laugh out loud. Do not put this on liberals that we don't know who the real threat is. We have wanted sanctions on Putin that Trump had been unwilling to do.

[Megan Alexander]

And you had folks like liberals, Putin or ice.

[Jesse Waters]

Don't make her answer ball. That was cute. Up next, Zoram the Destroyer was just the appetizer. The Democrats are letting their lib freak flag fly.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Ain't no woman like the one I've got.

[Jesse Waters]

Ain't no woman like the one I've got.

[Megan Alexander]

This is Ainsley Earhart. Thank you for joining me for the 52 episode podcast series the Life of Jesus.

[Jesse Waters]

A listening experience that will provide hope.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Comfort and understanding of the greatest story ever told. Listen and follow [e-mail] or wherever you listen to podcasts.

[Megan Alexander]

Some new numbers on the liberal takeover of the party of Zohran Mandani. CNN's Data Guy just confirmed that Democrats are more liberal now than at any point in modern polling history.

[Dana Perino]

Watch.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Look at where we are today. 59%. Three in five Democrats say they are liberal.

[Jesse Waters]

It might have used to be that the Democratic Party was almost more moderate conservative.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You know, Bill Clinton, of course, dlc.

[Jesse Waters]

The Democratic Leadership Council no longer the.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Case that DLC has. Adios amigos. This Democratic Party is a liberal. It is a liberal party.

[Megan Alexander]

Tina said you were a White House press secretary around that time working in the White House. Anyway, 2001, 30% of Democrats call themselves liberal. Now it's doubled.

[Dana Perino]

It's interesting, that's for sure. And I was actually wanted to ask you a quick question. I mean is that because the word progressive they don't like it or they do like it and it's now it's all encompassed.

[Megan Alexander]

I think they don't like the word Democrat I think it's not strong Democrat.

[Dana Perino]

And also, maybe people don't like the word Republican either. They prefer the word conservative. In fact, what Harry Entin didn't say is that people still consider themselves conservative or very conservative by 7% higher than liberals. So, I mean, maybe there's some silver linings in there for Republicans. Think that the interesting thing about Chuck Schumer is he laid out his targets for who the Democrats are going to try to kick out of the Senate. But he has some notable exceptions. He didn't include Texas. And I think that that was really telling because he knows that they're Democratic candidates are terrible. And just the other day we did a story about those two comedians that had to apologize because they said, don't give any money to Jasmine Crockett. And they got. Well, I almost said a bad word.

[Greg Gutfeld]

What did you say?

[Dana Perino]

They got all the sorts of stuff came down on them, and then they apologized. But the thing is that Chuck Schumer actually agrees with them. Don't give money to Jasmine Crockett or the other Democrats in that race. Ohio is a big reach for a big reach. And even in Alaska, the woman who is running against Dan Sullivan, she won one time statewide. We were just talking about the situation with energy prices going down, the energy markets and the energy business thriving. So I feel like the Democrats are not in good shape at this moment, leading into the midterms.

[Megan Alexander]

So, Greg, basically Dana's pointing out that people rank and file, can label them a certain way, but they have candidates that can't win a state like Ohio, which Obama carried twice, but then Trump's carried three times.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Dana took all my talking points. Yes, I had all of that information right here. Nate, I hate labels, as you know.

[Dana Perino]

No labels. No labels.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes. I live without a label.

[Megan Alexander]

Okay, handsome, I won't say it anymore.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes. Instead of trying asking people how they define themselves, ask them how what the definition means to them. Like, what is being a liberal, Right? Is a liberal someone who believes that establishing bailiffs for a felon is racist? Is that liberal? Is allowing men who identify as women into women's bathrooms? Is that enlightened? You know, Is that liberal? Coming out against sex changes for kids? Is that transphobic? Having a strong closed border? Is that xenophobic? So you have to. What you. I think what you have to. You have to somehow figure out, has the woke effectively slayed liberalism? Is it now liberalism? Do they not know that yet? You know, forget the labels. Who are your leaders? You know, it's easy to have A label. It's hard to have character and have substance and it. And you can't look at Zoran or AOC because it's so easy for them to be elected in New York City, where 8 million people just put up their hands and didn't vote. You know, nobody showed up.

[Megan Alexander]

Jessica, they teed it up for you. Liberal, progressive, conservative, moderate. What's the average Democrat now? What does it mean?

[Jessica Tarlov]

I don't actually think the label of it matters that much. I think it's anti Republican. It's basically anyone who's going to show up and is going to vote blue on the side of the ticket there. And I don't think that people want to be identified as a progressive anymore. I don't know anyone in my circles who feels that way. And a few years ago they might have. I think the summer of 2020 was a real kind of lightning rod moment where people said, I don't want to be associated with this. I believe in the fundamental values of the party, but I'm going a different way in it. And, you know, there were other surveys out this week, like the Gallup one on party ID, which was good for Democrats, and also that 45% of Americans, the highest ever recorded, are actually identifying as independent. Usually, you know, you pick, you have a few issues that push you to one side or the other, but especially young people are looking at both options and saying, I'm not really into either of these. And so you got to do a much better case.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That's your silver lining. They don't like us as much as other people.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I mean, ha ha ha, you guys have been losing them.

[Megan Alexander]

Do you know a conservative Democrat? I know a single Democrat that's pro life, pro second Amendment.

[Jesse Waters]

Harold. Harold.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That's it.

[Jesse Waters]

I don't care what they call themselves. I call them liars. Here's how they win. They get some woman that was in the military and she gets on the debate stage and she's like, my f in the union, and my mother stayed home and took care of the kids. And I'm for security and safety and affordability. So then they win, and then they start voting and they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, snip little Johnny's testicles out. I declare war on oil and white men. I, I, that's your problem. You guys lie.

[Megan Alexander]

Up next, President Trump just gave the one finger salute to a heckler.

[Jesse Waters]

So true.

[Greg Gutfeld]

President Trump flipping the bird to a Ford worker who called him a, quote, pedophile protector. But could this be a result of his high T RFK Jr just said this. Dr. Oz looked at his. His medical records and said he's got the highest testosterone level that he's ever seen for an individual over 70 years old. Dana, is this how you deal with hecklers? Do you just flip them off? How do you do it?

[Dana Perino]

Do you remember in my first book what I revealed?

[Greg Gutfeld]

What did you reveal?

[Dana Perino]

About how sometimes in the press briefing underneath the podium, I would just hold my water sometimes and just for strength, I would look at this one reporter in particular and just flipping the bird.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Did Acosta ever find out?

[Dana Perino]

No, it was under. I mean, I told it in my book afterwards. It wasn't Acosta.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, really?

[Dana Perino]

I'll tell you in the break.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah.

[Greg Gutfeld]

All right, thanks. So, Jesse, the guy called Trump a pedophile protector. Since when has Trump been protecting you? Oh, my God.

[Jesse Waters]

Convicted. The Emma's only 14 years younger. Any other president does this. It's like the biggest story of the Trump, like just another Tuesday. And this is why we love him, because he doesn't hide who he really is. Like Barack Obama, who hid his Muslim roots from the whole country.

[Dana Perino]

Smoking. Smoking, the smoking and the smoking.

[Jesse Waters]

You know how Trump hates leaks. I bet he loves this leak. Dr. Oz says he's high tea. Record high tea for a 70 year old. Get your heart out, Jeb. I'm just kidding. I love Jeb.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Jessica, isn't the irony that the Democrats only like high tea, but it's when they're giving it to young girls to turn them into boys.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I don't. I so don't care and don't believe it also.

[Jesse Waters]

Oh, you don't believe it?

[Jessica Tarlov]

No, I don't know. I would. Yes. Send me the records. I would love to evaluate those First Amendment at its best. Both flipping the bird and the worker's right to call him a pedophile protector.

[Dana Perino]

And the worker made like over $500,000 in a GoFundMe.

[Greg Gutfeld]

There you go. What a great little scam. Kellyanne, why is. Why is flipping the bird like an obscene thing? Where did it come from? I don't know anything. Like, you know what I mean? Like, if I were to do it right now, I'd be sent home.

[Dana Perino]

Home.

[Jessica Tarlov]

No.

[Megan Alexander]

We'd have to shadow out your face if you like.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I'm just go like that. But if, if they did, it's. It's really hard to do that. So it's a pain in the at butt.

[Jesse Waters]

You can't pixelate it live?

[Greg Gutfeld]

No, you can't pixelate it.

[Jesse Waters]

You can bleep it if we were on a delay, are we on a.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Remember, remember Becky used to do it on his head? Yes, that was funny. He'd like scratching his head.

[Jesse Waters]

We caught up giving it to me. He goes like this. And the camera caught him.

[Megan Alexander]

I think if Trump's not gonna take crap from, you know, Iran or China or Russia or Venezuela, he's not gonna take crap from some piss ant. Was I allowed to say that? Who made $500,000, half a million in a GoFundMe. That was the whole point, to be famous, to be invited on some of these other cable networks. Look, I think the blue collar men and women particularly that he was there to see at the plant, they love how authentic he is. They love that he's real. Politicians are so phony, they're so contrived, they're so scripted. Nobody can accuse. President will point out he's still a counter puncher. He does not draw first blood, but he does get the last word. In this case, last bird.

[Greg Gutfeld]

First.

[Dana Perino]

Last bird.

[Greg Gutfeld]

All right, coming up next, how does Jesse sleep at night?

[Jesse Waters]

Bring back the shame.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Of a man.

[Jessica Tarlov]

According to a study that was like five words at once. I'm sorry. Revenge. Bedtime procrastination is stealing hundreds of hours of American sleep. 96% of us admit to intentionally staying up late several nights a week to enjoy personal time, even though they know it will negatively affect their shut eye. Dana, I feel like you really, when you go to bed, you go to bed.

[Dana Perino]

I mean, okay, here's the thing. Like, this all goes back to your childhood and trying to negotiate with your parents for an extra half hour and another half hour. You know, you have kids, this is happening, right? They don't want, nobody wants to go to bed. And look, do I want to go to bed at 9 o' clock so that I can have a good day the next day?

[Megan Alexander]

No.

[Dana Perino]

I would love to stay up and watch more tv. I would love to doom scroll on my phone. I would love to. Actually, we don't doom scroll. My sister and I just send each other silly memes all night like it's a competition. I'd love to stay up all night reading my novel, but I know that there is freedom and health and discipline in going to bed at a certain time. So I'm an adult and that's why I do it.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I. Jesse, you're no phones in bed, right? Except for phone.

[Jesse Waters]

Well, there's. People ask me all the time, they say, jesse, how do you sleep at night? Do I stay up regretting verbally abusing my Colleagues. No. Do I toss and turn about being a fascist? Absolutely not. I get a great sleep every night.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Greg, an hour of personal time a night. I mean, three minutes tops.

[Megan Alexander]

Kellyanne, Now I think we have personal choice. Dana chooses to go to bed early for her health and discipline and to be an amazing anchor the next day. After three hours, other people, I think this is their me time. And I think they don't feel the fact that 96% admit to it means that they choose to do it. Our lives are so compressed. Years ago, your car was like the symbol of your freedom, and now it's traffic and congestion and speed cameras and nonsense. Now I think it's people laying in the bed on their phones watching something or just doing something. Mindless. I don't think there's anything.

[Jessica Tarlov]

One More Thing is up next.

[Megan Alexander]

This night is fine.

[Jesse Waters]

Don't you let it go.

[Dana Perino]

One More thing is up next. Well, no, it's actually, it's now. I almost got it through the week. Anyway, I want to congratulate Evie Bentley. So that is Drake's Bentley's daughter and she sang the national anthem at the National Predators last night when he was inducted there into the Predators hall of Fame. Watch, Her brother Knox was there, too. So great job, Evie. We miss seeing you around here. Greg.

[Greg Gutfeld]

All right, tonight we got a great show. Kennedy, Joe DeVito, Mike Baker, Tyrus, tonight at 10. Let's do this. Animals are great. Animals are great. Animals are great. You know, they keep telling you in England the food's great because it sucks. Well, this guy knows where to get his next meal. This is Jim. Greg. That's at the Dudley Zoo in England. That's Jim eating his boogers. By the way, there's a lot of protein in snot. I bet you didn't know that. Although it is linked to Alzheimer's boogers. But look at him. Yummy, yummy, yum, yum.

[Dana Perino]

Producer can't take it.

[Jesse Waters]

Jesse, you have crossed the line. All right, Bulgaria. Haven't heard a lot out of these people in a while.

[Dana Perino]

Are we taking them next?

[Jesse Waters]

They better watch their six. This is a little evil spirit fire ritual they do. It's a tradition to chase away winter spirits. This is something I didn't know Europeans did, but apparently they do handmade wooden masks decorated with feathers. The more and more I learn about Bulgaria, the more scared I am. Same thing with Nick Shirley. How does he do it? We'll find out tonight. Another Somalian Fraud Bombshell, Jessica, 8:00pm Eastern.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Watch this.

[Dana Perino]

She will tune in. But before that, she has to tell us her one more thing. Something.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Okay. What was supposed to be a picture perfect proposal took a heart stopping turn when the engagement ring slipped and fell 118ft off of Michigan Suspensions Bridge into the snow below. Panic set in. Help was on the way. Rescuers found it happily ever after.

[Dana Perino]

How'd they find it?

[Jesse Waters]

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[Greg Gutfeld]

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