The Nolan Wells Mystery

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Flo Show, No Filter

Episode: The Nolan Wells Mystery

Date: August 4, 2026
Host: Flo

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Episode Overview

In this gripping episode, Flo and a lively cast of co-hosts, chat contributors, and guests dive deep into the latest updates and theories surrounding the mysterious death of Nolan Wells. The discussion is unfiltered and community-driven, gathering perspectives from TikTok investigators, legal analysts, and family members. The episode centers around controversy regarding new audio evidence, possible cover-ups, suspicious behaviors, and a community struggling for justice in a case marked by confusion, shifting narratives, and withheld evidence.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Breaking News and Relevant Context

• Tupac Trial Update: Before tackling the main case, Flo brings up breaking news that Suge Knight will testify in the upcoming Tupac trial (starting August 10), drawing parallels to other “historic trials” he’s covered.
  [03:15]

2. The Nolan Wells Case - Introduction

• Focus on Katie and Contradictory Accounts: Kim, a TikTok investigator, presents compelling social media “receipts” challenging alibis and placing key individuals, especially Katie, at the scene.
• Suspicion Builds: The podcast analyzes the TikTok revelations and notes a pattern of online censorship attempts (“they keep taking it down”).
  [05:55]

3. TikTok Investigators’ Findings

• Katie's Movements and Alibi: Evidence from Snapchat and boat footage indicates Katie was on “Bart’s boat,” despite her claiming to have left with her family. Investigator links Katie’s ride home to the co-owner of a marina near the scene, suggesting a carefully crafted cover story.
• Community Response: Chat participants react in real-time, emphasizing the apparent holes in Katie’s alibi and the new evidence’s credibility.
  [06:12 - 10:32]

4. Theories and Community Frustration

• Conflicting Narratives: Flo expresses frustration over the case’s confusion and shifting stories. Multiple fights occurred around the time of Nolan’s disappearance, yet Nolan is repeatedly described as uninvolved.
• Host’s Take: “All I can say for sure is Nolan Wells didn’t do this. This wasn’t an accident… These kids know more than what they’re saying.”
  [12:12] Flo Show Host

5. The Sea Tow (CTO) Call & Its Significance

• Suspicious Audio: Central to the episode is the analysis of the Sea Tow 911 call, with speculation on what is overheard in the chaotic background before the operator connects.
• Audio Enhancement: Janetta Brantley, an audio engineer, describes her process enhancing the call, separating audio channels to clarify background voices and “unbelievable” statements.
  [21:16]

Notable Quotes:

• “What I was hearing was like—I couldn’t, I honestly could not believe what I was hearing.”
  – [23:19] Janetta Brantley

• “When I heard ‘Dammit Bart, Nolan’s really dead,’ I could not believe it.”
  – [31:04] Janetta Brantley

6. Legal Analysis and Concerns

• Withheld Autopsy: Nancy Grace joins to note the state autopsy is being kept secret (unusual for a public document) and highlights the growing pressure for transparency.
• Prosecutors’ Perspective: Legal analysts express concern that audio evidence could be challenged as doctored or AI-generated unless authenticated.
  [36:23]

Notable Quote:

• “If this is real, it changes everything... This case is going to be broken wide open.”
  – [31:11] Nancy Grace

7. Grand Jury and Cover-Up Theories

• Justice Delayed: Frustration over the autopsy’s secrecy and perceived protection of key players. Chat members call out potential obstruction of justice and demand accountability.

• Family’s Experience: Nolan’s mother’s theory is restated: “Her theory has always been that he did not drown... this audio only confirms what this mother already knew.”
  [50:29]

• Potential Evidence of Police Involvement: Roger, a dedicated follower, describes police dispatch chatter about a late-night visit to a judge’s house, hinting at the possibility of backdoor influence and further coverup.
  [41:30]

8. Community Solidarity & Calls for Change

• Shared Outrage: The chat reflects a broad sense of injustice—parents can’t access basic information, and the official record remains murky.
• Reflection on Broader Societal Issues: Conversation shifts briefly to broader questions of equality and governmental transparency, drawing a parallel to national debates on justice.
  [53:27]

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Memorable Quotes and Moments

• Flo’s Exasperation:
  “I haven’t covered a case like this. I’m gonna be honest. I don’t know what to believe… this is like a wild goose chase.”
  [13:38]

• On Censorship:
  “They’ve been taking that girl's videos down. You’ve been seeing this?”
  [08:36]

• On the SEO Call:
  “How are they telling us we’re not hearing it? … If they’re not saying Nolan, what else could they possibly be saying?”
  [27:08]

• Nancy Grace on Death Threats:
  “Death threats are flying. One actually says: there’s going to be blood—so much blood.”
  [17:11]

• Roger’s Determination:
  “It’s just too much smoke for it not to be a fire, as my mother would say… If there’s a way you can subpoena the judge’s phone records… look at those phone records…”
  [44:26]

• Frustration Over Withheld Evidence:
  “If I had the pocket knife all the time and ain’t say, they would arrest me for obstruction of justice… so what is this if not obstruction and withholding evidence?”
  [56:35]

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Important Segment Timestamps

| Time | Segment/Insight | |------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:15 | Tupac trial update and historical context | | 05:55 | TikTok investigation and breakdown of Katie’s alibi | | 12:12 | Analysis of multiple conflicting alibis and fights surrounding the time of Nolan’s disappearance | | 16:07 | Discovery about hidden commotion in the Sea Tow call | | 21:46 | Audio engineer explains isolating and enhancing the CTO 911 call | | 31:04 | Janetta Brantley discovers “Dammit Bart, Nolan’s really dead” on the CTO call | | 36:23 | Legal analyst flags the need for authentication of audio—risk of AI or doctoring | | 41:30 | Roger’s call: Police dispatch to judge’s house and suspicions about the discovery of the body | | 44:26 | Discussion around oddities in the discovery of Nolan’s body and possible manipulation of the case timeline | | 50:29 | Nolan Wells' mother’s steadfast disbelief in the drowning narrative, now supported by the audio | | 56:35 | Chat contributor’s pointed question on why withholding autopsy evidence isn’t seen as obstruction |

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Tone and Style

• Unfiltered, Community-Driven: The podcast stays true to its “no filter” tagline with candid exchanges, a conversational and at times impassioned tone, and active engagement with listeners’ comments.
• Conspiratorial but Evidence-Oriented: While not shying away from speculation or suspicion, Flo and guests consistently reference receipts, timestamps, and direct evidence.

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Conclusion

Flo and the community leave no doubt about their skepticism toward the official narrative in the Nolan Wells case. The episode spotlights grassroots investigation, the power (and repression) of social media evidence, and the emotional toll on families left without answers. With key audio still needing official authentication and the autopsy held from public view, the audience is left both outraged and determined—echoing the episode’s dominant call for transparency, justice, and accountability.

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If you’re new to the Nolan Wells story or just need to catch up, this episode serves as a comprehensive, raw, and engaging primer on both the facts and the fervor surrounding the case.

Transcript

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Flow show, no filter. Back to another crazy episode. But before I. What is going on? Good people, good people, what's going on? Elise, See Tuck, what's going on? Let's get it started. We got another Nolan Wells correct crazy update. Well, actually, we got a few crazy updates, but before I start that, I see something just popped up on my timeline. I thought I should share if it's go. You know that they probably disappeared now, But Suge Knight is gonna be Suge Knight is going to be testifying in the. In the. Suge Knight is going to be testifying in the. Tupac trial. When is the Tupac trial start? No, we got. I don't know if it's two k's or what. We're going to talk about that in. In a second. When does the Tupac trial start? When does the Tupac trial start? August 10th. Okay, August 10th. Y' all think I should go out to the Vegas and cover the Tupac trial? I'm thinking. I'm thinking that might be something I need to go to. I'm thinking that's something I might need to go to. I'm definitely thinking that's something I need to go to. What y' all think? Y' all think I should go to the Tupac trial? Put it in the chat, let me know somebody said yes. So I'm thinking I'm gonna go to it, man, Tupac was, was a, was a good one. Was a good. Was. It was one of my favorite artists. I think this is a historic trial. Much like the D trial was historic. I went there. I think I'm going to this Tupac trial. Come on in though. Nolan Wells is the. Is the topic of discussion today. Now what is going on with this Nolan Wells case? Do y' all know as much as we've been giving Katie a pass, but they starting to dig into this. This one lady, what is her name? Kim? Meg, what is her name? She has broke down. She has pretty much proved that. That. What's up, Gerald? She pretty much proved that that was two Katies or something. Or, or that Katie was on the boat. She, she brought receipts to. Is this her right here? I believe.

[TikTok Investigator]

Don't want you to see what I have found. Katie has dry snitched, y'.

[Chat Contributor]

All.

[TikTok Investigator]

Here we see Katie's Snapchat where she's wearing a teal suit.

[Flow Show Host]

Okay, here it is. Okay, this girl is Kim made third

[TikTok Investigator]

time making this video because they keep taking it down because they don't want you to see what I have found. Katie has dry snitched, y'.

[Janetta Brantley]

All.

[TikTok Investigator]

Here we see Katie's Snapchat where she's wearing a teal swimsuit and she's with a girl in a blue and white striped swimsuit. On this video of three boats, you're gonna see a girl in a blue and white striped swimsuit right here on Bart's boat. And right next to her with the same long wet hair is a girl in a teal swimsuit on Bart's boat. Make sure you have your brightness turned all the way up because here we have Katie in a teal swimsuit. And look at her head. She is wearing a white hat. Oh look, the video of the boat getting towed. Teal swimsuit, white hat. And that's not all, folks. Again, turn your brightness all the way up because right here we've got somebody wearing red trunks. Oh, and look what we have here.

[Flow Show Host]

Red trunks.

[TikTok Investigator]

And here's those same red trunks on the shore right after the fight with Tristan. Katie's claiming that she allegedly caught a ride home with somebody named Marty McGrath. It just so happens that a Marty McGrath is the co owner of the Biloxi Bay RV Resort and Marina in St. Martin. There it is.

[Nancy Grace]

And my.

[TikTok Investigator]

That is a massive dock way out in the water. And would you look at that. It's right next to the grandparents house. Now in that report with the GPS coordinates, didn't they say that they went southwest towards St. Martin Bayou. Yeah, that's right, it did. And it also took them 45 minutes to get to that boat ramp over there. That only takes about six minutes on land. Like I said, they are trying to take down my page. Make sure you are following my backup here. But, Katie, I want to say one thing to you. You're young, and I know you don't realize this yet, but these are not your friends.

[Janetta Brantley]

Be a hero.

[TikTok Investigator]

Do what's right,

[Prosecutor Analyst]

y'.

[Janetta Brantley]

All.

[Flow Show Host]

That is explosive. And I don't know if y' all remember. Y' all follow me on social media and we talked a little bit about on the podcast, but I showed y' all that. That a screenshot of that video footage that showed the girl bending down. And I told you that everybody was saying that was Katie. That was even before this young lady on Tick Tock pulled all the receipts. So this. This is. This is. This is not adding up. And they've been taking their stuff down. They've been taking that girl's videos down. You've been seeing this?

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Flow Show Host]

It's crazy. I don't know. I don't know, man. It just. The whole Katie situation, it just seemed. It's just. It just seems like people are hiding information, man. No matter how you slice it, no matter how you put it, it look like people are just hiding information.

[Chat Contributor]

And.

[Flow Show Host]

And. And I don't. Yes. Nurse Candy said they've been.

[Chat Participant]

They've been.

[Flow Show Host]

Candy said they've been reporting her page. Gerald said she better be careful because there's a lot of Tick tockers that end up missing. She has basically place. Place Katie on the boat. On Bart's boat, I believe. And this is not adding up. This is not adding up at all. Thank you for the jewels at least. Coming through with the 10 jewels. Everybody show at least some love for showing me some love in the chat. Make sure you liking and sharing this live. This is the flow show no filter. Every Monday through Friday at 8:30am Eastern Standard Time. Yeah, Katie said she left the fan, the. The book, the. The island with her family. But now this girl and a few tick tockers have found out and seen that Katie was on the boat with Bart. And I don't know if Warren was on the boat, but I know it was Bart and Warren's boat. Katie was in the mix. And that girl's not just the red trunk. Somebody said, oh, just everybody got red trucks. No, that ain't just.

[Roger]

She.

[Flow Show Host]

She pointed out Katie's whole outfit and shoulder in multiple different Locations and looks pretty. Looks pretty believable to me. Shout out Candy for the 10 jewels. Candy. Everybody show Candy some love in the chat for showing me some love. What do we got going on, man? I, I. This, this case. This case. I haven't covered a case like this. I'm gonna be honest. I don't know what to believe. One story seems plausible, but then there's another story seem plausible. Like I said, all I can say for sure is Nolan Wells didn't do this. This wasn't an accident. And it's sad, but I do know that these kids know more than what they're saying. These kids know more than what they're saying. I promise you, something terrible happened. And then, like I said it from the beginning, have y' all noticed that it's all of these fights, yet they saying Nolan wasn't involved in any of them? All of these fights. Warren's brother got into a fight. Tristan,

[Roger]

his.

[Flow Show Host]

Nolan's friend Tristan, he got into a fight. All of these fights around the same time that we pretty much have after. After these fights. We don't know what happened to. No. Which makes. Doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't make sense to me. Like, what happened? What happened? Oh, what's up, Steph? Turtle gave me 200 jewels. Flow state. Thank you so much, everybody. Show Step some love for showing me some love in the chat, please. This case is a roller coaster. We don't know what to believe. The story is. I don't have to tell y' all that the story has changed a million different times. Warren said he last saw him at 3, and then Katie said. She, she. She. She said he went with Katie, but then Katie says he went with. She saw him get on the boat with them. Like, which one is it? Which one is it? I had. I can't figure this one out, y'.

[Roger]

All.

[Flow Show Host]

I can't figure this one out. Yeah, I don't know how the new jewels work anyway, but I like them. Felicia said I got to get an understanding of how these new jewels work. No, I never heard of choking games. But you think somebody was playing some choking game. You think that's why they took his throat out the. Out the autopsy? Good morning, Sharon. Sharon said, good morning, Flo. Daddy. What up? What up, Sharon? What up, sharon? Yep, yep, yep. I'm at home. Cleveland. Cleveland, Ohio. Nolan. Nolan, what happened to you? Nolan, I wish Nola could speak and tell us exactly what happened. Man, this is like a wild goose chase. It's a wild goose chase. Candy says I Think it was a setup. Unfortunately, the more this unfolds, the more it seems likely do seem like a setup. And a planned alibi. And a planned alibi. He's trying to tell us. It's heartbreaking. Yeah, man. Yeah. That C to that C cup, that C toe call was supposed to be an Alec by and they messed it all up. And I'm gonna tell you one thing that, that, that really sticks out to

[Janetta Brantley]

me

[Flow Show Host]

on that CTO sea toe call is how much commotion and the fact that we hear all that yelling and screaming and Nolan, before they pick up the phone, the very, very beginning. When, when, when, when. Before the operator actually picks up the phone and they got that little beginning music playing, a little elevator music or whatever. Did y' all notice that? And they probably didn't realize that the call starts recording even before the operator gets on because they were screaming Nolan and this and all type of stuff in that beginning elevator music. And then the operator gets on. It's a little less going on, but I really. I truly think it's something to the fact that it was a lot more going on and screaming when they didn't know that the call had been picked up yet. Oh, yeah. Nancy Grace had that one. Had the one girl on.

[Nancy Grace]

Bombshell tonight in the investigation of the death of a young man, Nolan Wells, death threats are flying. One actually says, there's going to be blood. So much blood. Another death threat says, don't go outside. How can anybody do their jobs when they're getting death threats? Not only that, we understand this case is headed to a grand jury. We also learned tonight that the state's autopsy is complete but is being kept secret. Isn't an autopsy a public document? Why is it being kept hidden from us, the public? What is in that autopsy? The first autopsy of Nolan Wells. Good evening, Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being with us.

[Roger]

Transported up to D.C. of the nation's

[Janetta Brantley]

no

[Nancy Grace]

app where you can get all

[Flow Show Host]

our but one thing I will give Nancy for she asking the same question they normally just give out. It's all. It's normally public knowledge what happened in the autopsy. But for some reason. But for some reason not in this case, they are taking this to the grand jury. I don't understand. Well, I do understand. I Like I said, we all know if that. What happened to see Tuck. Now, see, Tuck sent me put the link in the chat and then he

[Chat Contributor]

still

[Flow Show Host]

c. Tuck is nowhere to be found. He asked me to put the link in the chat and I don't see him? Do y' all see C Tuck? They said something else

[Nancy Grace]

allegedly was leaking in terms. Go to at this. I listened to a good 40 seconds. C to S E a second word. T o W on hold. Listen to their music. There was plenty good connection. But before I could even get to the death threats, I.

[Chat Participant]

Blood.

[Nancy Grace]

So much blood. Blood everywhere. And don't step outside. And more. Before I can even get to the grand jury, before I can get to the autopsy that's being kept hidden from us, I want you to meet

[Janetta Brantley]

someone

[Nancy Grace]

very important critical to this investigation. Her name, Janetta Brantley. Ms. Brantley is the audio engineer who enhanced a 911 call, the CTO call in the Nolan Wells case. So everybody claiming some ding dong on YouTube did it or somebody on Insta or TikTok did it?

[Janetta Brantley]

No.

[Nancy Grace]

She did. I've spoken to her. I've read her statement. I want you to judge her credibility. Credibility is normally the sole province of a jury, and tonight you serve in that function, Ms. Brantley. I'm sure that you're getting all sorts of abuse threats and so forth. It's a cacophony that seemingly won't cease. That said, thank you for being with us tonight. Explain to me where you got the audio, how you got the audio, and what, if anything, you did to enhance the audio.

[Flow Show Host]

No, no, I'm gonna let her talk, but yeah, Candy, this was good. I watched this last night. I want to watch this with it, with. With all of y' all and see y' all thoughts. This is the young lady right here. This is the young lady who enhanced the audio that. That basically flipped this whole case upside down. And she's going to explain what she did, how she did it, and. And a little bit of her background,

[Janetta Brantley]

first and foremost. I basically downloaded it off of YouTube from WLOX News's YouTube site. And when I downloaded it, I ripped it off of YouTube. That's the terminology that we use when we take something off of YouTube. But when I ripped it off of YouTube and I pulled it in.

[Nancy Grace]

Pause, please. Objection. Ms. Brantley, isn't it true that the audio you got was taken directly by XLO from mdmr, Correct. The Mississippi Department of Marine Resources. Isn't that true?

[Janetta Brantley]

Yes.

[Nancy Grace]

Okay. Please continue, Ms. Brantley.

[Janetta Brantley]

So when I downloaded it from YouTube, I pulled it into my DAW, which is logic Pro X. That's my dog Choice. And when I first listened to it, I realized that it was like a dual mono recording, which most. What is it like? Most phone services or operators use utilize when they're recording conversations. And so it was already split between the caller, the dispatch, and the callers in the background. And so that's what made it easy for me to isolate it without having to do much to it. So that isolation, when I separated the left channel from the right channel, that just made me be able to really focus on everything that was on the call. And what I was hearing was like. Like, I. I couldn't. I honestly could not believe what I was hearing.

[Nancy Grace]

Mr. Brantley, isn't it true this is the same audio that was released by the Mississippi Department of Marine Resources?

[Janetta Brantley]

Yes, that is absolutely correct.

[Nancy Grace]

Let's listen to it one more time.

[Chat Participant]

Hey, we're at the west tip of Born and our village stopped working. We're going. We're sinking.

[TikTok Investigator]

Can y'.

[Flow Show Host]

All. He said he's dead. Get the. Up. Damn it, Bart.

[Chat Participant]

What'd you say? It's coming up. It's. It's. We're just thinking. I don't know. Like, we're just. We're going down. I don't know the phone number. It's. It's either. I think it's. Try that. I know we have a membership, like, guaranteed. I don't have the tag on here. It got ripped off. What? No, we do not need that.

[Flow Show Host]

Check his chest.

[Chat Participant]

Jump in and pull the plug while you're going. Hello? Okay, what's going on? What's up? Hey, where is the west tip of Horn and our dogeco? We have a membership

[Flow Show Host]

now.

[Flow Show Announcer]

This is her.

[Flow Show Host]

How she made it. This is showing how she took the sound and extracted the sound and did all that. Here it is.

[Chat Participant]

Hey, we're at the west tip of Born and our nose working. We're shaking. Can you all please call me on the membership?

[Flow Show Host]

This is interesting.

[Nancy Grace]

Back to Janetta Brantley joining us tonight, and she shows herself.

[Flow Show Host]

I can't for the life of me figure out how that's how. We are not hearing what they're saying we are here. We are hearing what we are saying we are hearing. How are they telling us we're not hearing it? I mean, what are they saying besides Nolan? Or check his chest. Like, what else could they be saying? You tell me in the chat.

[Chat Contributor]

What else?

[Flow Show Host]

If that's not Nolan. Oh, my God. Then what else is he saying? If that's not Nolan, what else are they saying? If that. If they're not saying Nolan, what else could they possibly be saying? Chad, Nurse Candy said they are trying to manipulate and brainwash people into believing it's not true. That it's fabricated. Yeah. And it ain't. It's not fabricated. That. I don't know what else I'm hearing. Yeah, Steph, they definitely trying to piss on us and tell us it's raining, but. I don't know. I don't know at all. But then let's continue.

[Nancy Grace]

And that video showing what she is doing, what does adding EQ mean? Ms. Brantley?

[Janetta Brantley]

Adding EQ is basically selecting a certain frequency of the actual sound and either deleting or removing a certain noise, something that's problematic to the ear. Deleting that or boosting that, that's literally all eqing is.

[Nancy Grace]

What was your process? Janetta? Because I was sitting, researching. It was early, early, early in the morning, like 5:45am several days ago, and I was researching the Nolan Wells case and I saw the transcript as it was being played. And my husband was also up. He said, what's wrong? I'm like, if this is real, this changes everything. It changes everything. Because up until that point, it seemed as if no one's death could very well have been an accident. If this is real, it changes everything. It's seismic. What was your reaction when you heard these words? Janetta Brantley?

[Janetta Brantley]

I think at my core I was in disbelief. I wasn't cleaning it or enhancing it to specifically look for or identify a crime or even point the fingers at anybody. I believe I wanted it to be an accident. I think a lot of us wanted it to be an accident. So when I heard those things, when I heard Dammit Bart, that name stood out to me because I hadn't even

[Roger]

heard that name before.

[Janetta Brantley]

As I was listening to certain things that stood out to me, I was in disbelief because again, I'm just an audio engineer. I'm not an investigator, detective, or anything like that. So when I heard a name that I wasn't familiar with, it stood out to me. And that alone made me want to hear what was immediately said after Dammit Bart. And so that's why in that process where Dammit Bart came in loud and clear to me, I decided to go over to the next part to hear what the rest of that statement was, which is where you saw me actually create a loop over that part, split that part, and then add a gain, which the gain is boosting the volume overall. And that's pretty much what you saw me do in that actual video. And so to hear, you know, dammit, Bart, Nolan's really dead. Now that I was, I couldn't believe it. I could not believe it.

[Nancy Grace]

My reaction to Janetta, because when I first heard it, I thought, this has got to be documented. This can't be.

[Flow Show Host]

Now they keep saying if it's real, we pretty much know it's real at this point. We pretty much know it's real at this point. The part of this cover up at least says the sad part of about this cover up is that they have to go through grand jury since there isn't enough evidence for any arrest. Yeah. And I don't believe that. I think there is enough evidence if you ask me. That's my opinion. But I feel like there is enough evidence. Somebody said, puff, puff, pass. I hear you. Candy says those arrest warrants need to be signed. That audio is enough for probable cause. It is. Yeah. Once. Once the experts, like Felicia said, once the experts authenticate this and get to digging out and figuring out what was said and all of that, it's going to be over. This case going to be broken wide open. If this gets authenticated and they can prove that what we are hearing, we are hearing, however, they can prove that whatever, once that happened, it's over with, it'll be nothing else to talk about in this case, that is clear as day. Fire Glory says hi. Hi, everyone. How are we doing today? How are we doing today, y'? All? To take a break and say it's how everybody doing? It's the flow show. No filter podcast, five star rated on Apple and Spotify. Catch us on there. Catch us live on YouTube Monday through Friday, 8:30 Eastern Standard Time. Everybody doing good?

[Chat Participant]

Yep.

[Flow Show Host]

Like, like, like Candy said, once it's authenticated, it won't be no more hearsay. And I don't know what they gonna say after that. I hope Ben crumping them is getting this done asap. Anybody seen grandma kathy? Nobody seen grandma kathy. Let's see. Oh, yeah, let's go back real.

[Nancy Grace]

Don't move. Straight out to veteran trial lawyer Franz Borkhardt, a veteran trial lawyer joining us out of the Baton Rouge jurisdiction at Burkhart's law firm. Franz, take off your defense hat. Just one moment. I have introduced wiretaps many times at trials, which are very hard to get, by the way. And I've never had one that I believed was doctored at the time because they were taken by law enforcement. This is from a completely independent source with no Dog in the Fight, no Skin of the Game. It's from dispatch at Sea Toe and

[Flow Show Host]

I woke her up.

[Nancy Grace]

If this is real, this blows the case wide up. Now, you saw Janetta Brantley, You've heard her. I have no reason to disbelieve anything she's saying.

[Prosecutor Analyst]

So if I'm prosecuting this, I need. I'm worried that I need a witness in 2026 to exclude the possibility that it's either AI generated or doctor, just like you suggested. And I think that she's very credible, But I think we need to go one step further. The other concern I have, Nancy, is if the independent autopsy is showing inconclusive death results. Now, I really want to see the other autopsy to see, is there trauma to the body? Is there something that happened? These are the concerns I would have as a prosecutor, but we've now opened the doors to these. These guys may, in fact, have committed obstruction of justice.

[Nancy Grace]

Hold on, hold on. You're putting the cart before horse. Before we talk about obstructions such as allegedly lying or covering something up, you've already mentioned two distinct lines of inquiry. One is that the audio that Janetta Brantley enhanced innocently, I believe had been already AI or doctored. Okay, let's follow that through to its logical conclusion. You just throw that out there like a stink bomb at the circle. You know what a circle meeting is, right? In the United Methodist Church, all the ladies have circle meetings. Okay. To suggest this was doctored before Janetta got it means it had to have been doctored or AI Created by who? The Mississippi Department of Marine Resources.

[Flow Show Host]

They talking about obstruction of justice. Hold on. What if somebody. Somebody said, good morning. Have we discovered the dispatch tape where the police are saying they are on the way to the judge's house of that night? I just listened to it. I didn't see that. Where you see that at, Roger? Can you drop a link. Can you drop a link in the chat or tell me where we can find that? I haven't saw that dispatch tape where the police are saying they're on their way to the judge house. I haven't saw that. Roger, point me in the right direction of where that is. Send me the link. Roger, where do we. Where do we hear that at? I don't see that. Yeah, I ain't seen that, Roger. Oh, standby. Okay. Roger said he got some forest to check out states. Hold on. Y' all like. And share this live. Oh, it's not new. Oh, well, if you want to explain. All right, so look, check it out. Roger, step in, give us your insight on. Here's the link. Tap that link, Roger. And come on in. Tap this link right here in the chat, and I'm gonna bring you up so you can tell us about this dispatch tape that this alleged Dispatch tape. Can you tap that link, Roger, and just tell us about it or give us some insight on it? Are you able to. We waiting on Roger. See if Roger could tap that link and tell us. If not. Roger, that's okay, but I would like to hear about it. I'm sure the community. Community. The community would like to hear about it too. Oh, yeah, you can't talk on the phone while he. Oh, yes, maybe he can. What's going on, Roger?

[Roger]

Morning. Yeah, I just, you know. Well, I've been following this case from the beginning. You know, it's like I'm up, I'm on it all day, all night. But anyway, Telehouse Publishing. I just watched it.

[Chat Participant]

It was.

[Roger]

It's a new discoveries, he said, and he played the. It was police shatter. And they were communicating using codes. And they were saying that we're on our way to the judge's house and they use the code of 1050. So I can't go all the way back in there and. And find out exactly where it is, but I'm pretty sure to start exploding and more will come out. But I just listened to. I just got off. So I bounced back and forth from channel to channel and I just. I found yours and you know, kind of listen in and see what's new. But that's new to me. That's. That's on top of. Well, I won't say on top of, but it was the hours of close to midnight when they were talking and saying they were on the way to the judge's house and accent, the police officers, they was asking, did you have all the information from the 1050? Now, 1050 is a police code for a missing person or an accident causing injury and so forth and so on. So I guess it went on overall in a nutshell. Why were they on the way to the judge's house at that hour? And this is during the time, well, you know, when Nolan was. Was missing or whatever. Did they discover something before he was discovered is my question. So was this allegedly.

[Flow Show Host]

Well, I mean, was this. I mean, I mean, not Friday night, but was this July 4th night or was this. When was this allegedly.

[Roger]

Yes.

[Flow Show Host]

Okay.

[Roger]

Yes.

[Flow Show Host]

Would have been Saturday night, because I think Saturday was July 4th, I believe, or whatever July 4th. It was that night, though. So. So the same night, the same day Nolan was at the island that night. You saying the police is dispatched, Saying the police was dispatching to the judge house?

[Roger]

Yeah, yeah, they were on the west. You know, that needs to be more, you know, forthcoming. I had. I Called Benjamin Crump's office yesterday, you know, because I got to thinking. I'm like, man, it's just too much. You know, as we know, we ain't stupid. You know, what's going on. We're gonna stand 10 toes down on business. We ain't going nowhere. We gonna find out in Mississippi. You're gonna pay, to say the least. You know, I just. I felt like, you know, if y' all just. If. If there's a way you can subpoena the judge's phone records, you know, everybody that's involved, from the person that discovered him to the sheriff that found it, claiming, you know, no foul play, you know, let's look at those phone records. How many phone calls went out during the time that Nolan was supposedly be missing?

[Flow Show Host]

Right.

[Roger]

You know, he wasn't just. He didn't just disappear in the thing now, you know, my thought process is, you know, from beginning to end, you know, they held on to his body and somebody laid him out there. I want to know, the person walking just happened to be walking the island and discovered Nolan's body. Was he out there by himself? Did they give him the body and he throwed it out there? Right. I don't know. This is my thought process.

[Flow Show Host]

Mighty funny.

[Roger]

Yeah.

[Flow Show Host]

He found. It is anonymous.

[Roger]

Come on, man. This ain't that.

[Flow Show Host]

Case like this.

[Roger]

Yeah.

[Flow Show Host]

A big case like this, the person be. You'd be so happy that they. They. The one found them. They'd be like, yeah, I found about. You know what I'm saying? But it's anonymous.

[Roger]

Yeah, yeah. Anonymous park ranger or something. They said, I can't. You know.

[Flow Show Host]

Yeah, Anonymous part. Yep. Anonymous park.

[Roger]

Yeah.

[Flow Show Host]

And then they found. And then the body just neatly. Right where they. Everybody had been looking the past couple days. And then it just. What, then it just appeared?

[Roger]

Yeah. And then furthermore, I think it's more to that toe call. Phone call, the recording. Because it. It picked up and started recording right when they called, and there was a. There was a time delay before she even started talking. But then. Come on, let's think about this.

[Chat Contributor]

Come on.

[Roger]

Don't sleep. She put them on hold and start communicating with the captain. So did it stop recording, or is there more to that?

[Flow Show Host]

You know what I mean?

[Roger]

Like, what was. What was said thereafter? You know, the devil is in the details. Come on. I look at the smallest things, you know, and so, you know, from. From beginning again, let's take it to the top. We already know. You don't. You don't. You don't leave your friends I don't care where you're going, where you at, you don't, you don't leave your loved ones, your friends. And then now, you know, moving fast forward, you know, we far past that, we've been. We've been following this, investigating to move past that. We're all the way up to the 911 call and this and that and the other. Man, it's just too much smoke for it not to be a fire, as my mother would say, right? Too much too much smoke for it not to be a fighter. So come on, man, come on, give it up. Smooth. Last but not least. Last but not least. I am a believer. You know, Jesus said, I'm the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but by me. So I would imagine they would have some type of relationship with God. Go to church. There's not another. Whatever the case may be, it ain't no way on God's green earth that you can sleep good at night. Are you gonna make your way to heaven with the dirt and undead? Somebody know what they did, and you ain't comfortable, you ain't sleeping. Give it up. It's time. Yeah. Because that young man, that young man and their family is suffering because they don't have the answers. And I feel the same way. You know, I got. I got a teenage son just graduated high school, about to enter the university, and he, you know, his stature, the way he wears hair. All I can think about is my son when I see no other man. And I, I just, you know, I have to take my hat off to the want to Christine and, and. And her husband. They're humble.

[Flow Show Host]

I, I'm not.

[Roger]

I, I ain't, you know what it is, so. But to say the least, man, if you can find that under Telehouse Publishing, it might surface a little. A little later on in the day, but it's a new discovery.

[Flow Show Host]

Tell the house publishing.

[Roger]

Tell the house publish.

[Flow Show Host]

All right. I'm gonna look it up, man.

[Roger]

Yep. I don't know his name, but it's the guy with the braids, you know?

[Flow Show Host]

Okay.

[Roger]

And, you know, he always throwing the scripture out there. I appreciate his, you know, his forward movement, man, but, yeah, you'll, you'll find it. It's out there.

[Flow Show Host]

All right, well, I appreciate you coming in. Everybody say, what's up with Roger? Make sure you, you like and subscribe, bro. I appreciate it. I've been following this, and I'm on top of it 247 as well. I'm gonna find that discount Bro. So I appreciate you, Roger, all day long, man.

[Roger]

Appreciate y', all, man. Y' all my prayers. What happened to Nolan Wales? Justice for Nolan Wells.

[Flow Show Host]

Yes, sir.

[Roger]

All right. Yes, sir.

[Flow Show Host]

What up, C man?

[Chat Contributor]

What up, Flow?

[Flow Show Host]

What's going on, man?

[Chat Contributor]

Man, still, Nolan ain't the only that need justice around this.

[Flow Show Host]

What's the going on, man?

[Chat Contributor]

That little I done picked up from the post office.

[Flow Show Host]

For real?

[Chat Contributor]

Yeah.

[Flow Show Host]

Justice. Justice for ctop.

[Chat Contributor]

Was good morning everybody.

[Nolan Wells' Mother]

What we heard and so we were

[TikTok Investigator]

to put this before a jury.

[Nancy Grace]

Also we hear, dammit, Bart, no no's really dead.

[Janetta Brantley]

Damn.

[Nancy Grace]

Damn it, Bart, no no's really dead. Repeating it over and over and over. According to reports his nickname one of them is no no. Back to Tesla and Figaro. What is no one's mother's theory about what happened in light of these tapes

[Nolan Wells' Mother]

before we even had the tapes? Her theory is I told my son, I've raised my son just like I've raised my 19 year old the same way Nancy, like I'm sure you raise your children. Come back with the people you went with. Her theory has always been that he is a fantastic swimmer, that he is an athlete. Her theory has always been that he did not drown. Her theory has always been that there's something wrong with with this picture. Her theory has always been that the fact that, you know, he left his phone and left and left his keys. Her theory has also always been that he did not just go off with some random stranger and say, guys, don't worry about it, just leave me on an island. Her theory is the same thing before this audio. This audio only confirms what this mother already knew.

[Flow Show Host]

This is sad, man. I know them parents going through it. I can't wait for them to authenticate this deceito call. Man. I. I know they got the experts on top of it.

[Chat Contributor]

It still don't explain just what. What's taking so long. Yeah, like, oh, okay then. It's just the. That disturbed me is just the like people's willingness to sit up there and try to them people over like knowing that they was they was wrong. Man, like that. That is not cool. And I know the universe and karma, they got their own way of their own sense of humor and dealing and dealing with their own justice. But it'd be like, damn you, you, how long you gonna wait?

[Flow Show Host]

Right, right, right, right, right. How long? How long you gonna wait? And like you said, it just, man, I don't know. Is this the first one I can remember I've ever seen an autopsy get held back like this. I ain't never.

[Chat Contributor]

I don't know if I've covered man for nobody. Like when my uncle passed, we got, we got both of them. We got this a week later. A week or two later.

[Flow Show Host]

Now they holding them talking about they, they, they not gonna release and let us see it today till they take it to the grand jury or something and all that. What.

[Chat Contributor]

And it's like they ain't even telling the parents like this is a national, if anything internationally recognized case. So how the y' all can't. Y' all could have expedited that, move that up the totem pole and got that, got that rectified like they were supposed to.

[Flow Show Host]

Right, right, right, right. Like, like man, I'm like the fact that the, the mother who, who lost her son, she can't get. It's just sad. It's like damn crazy as man, as long as it's been too. And you know a parent like you want to know. I, I mean I think it's foul that they holding it back, but I think it's super foul that the parents ain't even privy to what's going on like that. That's foul, man.

[Chat Contributor]

Yeah, you right about that. Fire glory. Yeah, I, I totally. I, I definitely agree with you and it's like you try to be optimistic because know that like we know that but we, you know it's 2026. You thinking times about to change. Everybody about everybody put it seemed like pushing more so for, for like, like sec. The equality of sexual orientation. They want equality for LGBT and all that, but just not straight out equality for people.

[Flow Show Host]

Yeah.

[Chat Contributor]

Like regardless of what sex gender like sex sexual orientation, whatever. What's right is right and need to just do that. Like it might not be the fun.

[Flow Show Announcer]

Like I like I'll be telling my

[Chat Contributor]

little brother and because his ass don't want be calling off a work and I'm like bro, being responsible handling your business, it ain't always fun but it's necessary right now you got to do like regardless if, if whatever problems you got you gotta face the. You can try to run around and run away from the. But they still gonna exist. Whether you, you can. You can go out the country. When you come back, them still gonna be there waiting on you. Like yeah. And then they gonna tack on some other whatever. Take care of whatever you create. Handle your business man. And the universe gonna reward you swelling.

[Flow Show Host]

No, I agree.

[Chat Contributor]

I don't get why people just, just, just want to assume the rolls of dirt bags and right like, like that that's man, then there's. And it's always like people that's unbeknownst to the situation unbeknownst to or don't even know what's going to just genuinely want to. Want to be around some that fall by the wayside.

[Flow Show Host]

Yeah, it just. It's just. Just like I said man, sad all the way across the board. Sharon said the autopsy gonna tell us a lot. Hell yeah.

[Chat Contributor]

And that's why they holding the bike because they know it is. They know it's gonna reveal everything that needs to be told and justice would be served Swissly. But they don't want that.

[Flow Show Host]

And what messed them up is that independent autopsy kind of got them where they can't pull too many. You know, they can't pull too many tricks because they got another independent autopsy who has access to the body and. And information. So it's like that messed up. I believe that messed up their whole plan right there. Thinking. First of all, they weren't thinking that this was going to become one of the biggest stories of the year. You know what I'm saying? I'm sure when it was going down they just thinking some they could just

[Chat Contributor]

hide or whatever, sweep under the rug.

[Flow Show Host]

Sweep it right up under the rug. But. But for it to be coming to the forefront like this. I know they like what the autopsy like, you know what I mean? Why if it you we know for sure if it said he was accidental drowning, they would have released that.

[Chat Contributor]

But my thing is if say I was there and I had and they were looking for a pocket knife to tie into the case and I had the pocket knife all the time and ain't say they will arrest me for obstruction of justice and withholding evidence. So what is not considering that? Obstruction of justice and withholding evidence.

[Flow Show Host]

Right.

[Chat Contributor]

Why is that not considered that? Where. Where is the gray area stipulation where y' all able to just be able to coast through with this? Yeah, like I want to see that.

[Flow Show Host]

That's true. That's true. Where the is it like I want

[Chat Contributor]

to see somewhere that it says in the laws, state laws, country law, whatever, where it says that. Oh yeah, we. We have. We reserve the right to withhold any autopsy for investigation. I want to see that.

[Roger]

Right.

[Flow Show Host]

How you holding that back when people trying to figure out what the hell going on and you just gonna hold

[Chat Contributor]

it and it's an investigation. It's your job to solve the.

[Flow Show Host]

Yeah. And it's an autopsy. It ain't like it's gonna be gonna tear up the case if you Let people know what's. What it is.

[Roger]

That's.

[Flow Show Host]

That's some doggish. But like y' all said in the chat, and you kind of said it too, I think. See, Tuck, Mississippi. There ain't no secret about what Mississippi is about. Yeah, ain't no secret. And so like you said.

[Chat Contributor]

But even though know what is, man, at the end of the day, it's time for some change, bro. And really need. Need to just like, speak up about.

[Flow Show Host]

Right. What's up, Siri, we got Surrey in the building. Suri Weather said no such laws exist to withhold.

[Chat Contributor]

Exactly.

[Flow Show Host]

And the family don't even get a chance to know, man. I have to leave it there, y'. All. This is a rough one, man, but I hope we get some new news today. I. I really want them to authenticate that C tone call audio.

[Chat Contributor]

Yeah, they got to.

[Flow Show Host]

They gotta. And that's something that being crumping them doing. So it's like, well, they. We should have to wait on nobody. Like the minute they get that authenticated or whatever. Whatever. I'm sure they gonna put that out. I'm sure they gonna put that out.

[Chat Contributor]

No, for sure.

[Flow Show Host]

I don't know why you hear the intro?

[Chat Contributor]

Yeah, I hear it on my phone. I don't hear it on the actual frame yard. I don't know. It's tripping.

[Flow Show Host]

But I can hear you, though. So you can hear me. Let me know when it's off.

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