Clive Davis And The Cost Of Power

Summary

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The Flo Show, No Filter

Episode: Clive Davis And The Cost Of Power
Host: Flo
Date: June 23, 2026

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Overview

This episode delves into the legacy and controversies surrounding Clive Davis, the legendary music executive who recently passed away at the age of 94. Host Flo and a lively chat community digest Davis’s impact on the music industry—both positive and negative—including his associations with icons from Whitney Houston to Diddy. The episode then pivots to the ongoing Carmelo Anthony legal saga and the larger flaws within the American justice system, with impassioned audience interaction throughout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Clive Davis: Giant or Villain?

[03:17–14:44]

• Brief Bio & Passing
  Clive Davis, famed for signing numerous legendary artists and shaping modern pop and R&B, died at 94. His death triggered a wave of commentary, much of it critical.
  • “Clive Davis, the controversial CEO, is no longer here. And people have a lot to say about it.” – Flo (03:17)
• Signings and Legacy
  Davis is credited with launching the careers of Whitney Houston, Aretha Franklin, Alicia Keys, Earth, Wind & Fire, and many others.
  • “Behind the controversy, Clive Davis did sign and put out a lot of artists, legendary artists." – Flo (06:09)
• Scandals and Allegations
  Accusations against Davis include:
  • Exploiting Black musicians (e.g., TLC’s infamous contract, Whitney Houston controversies)
  • Rumors about Davis’s involvement or knowledge in Whitney Houston’s death
  • Linking with exploitative industry practices, such as “grooming” artists and poor contractual deals (TLC, Phyllis Hyman, Kelly Clarkson, Janis Joplin among others)
  • 1970s “payola” scandal and allegations of drug and funds misuse
  • Alleged secret meetings (see next point)
  • “You got some people saying that Clive was one of the most evil people in the industry. More worse than that other guy with those files.” – Guest/Caller (08:01)
• Infamous Photo & The Whitney-Brandy Note
  Flo references a “most infamous picture” of Clive Davis with Brandy and Whitney Houston: “We still to this day don’t know what the hell was exactly going on in this picture. But it is what it is... To this day, Brandy refuses to say what was in that note. We all would like to know." (04:10)
• Aftermath of Whitney Houston’s Death
  Davis continued with his pre-Grammy party the night Houston died, leading to much criticism:
  • “I didn’t like how he kept the party going. That’s a good point... after Whitney Houston died, Clive Davis kept the party going as if [she] was just a footnote.” – Flo (09:43)

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2. The 1995 “Secret Meeting” & the Prison-Industrial Complex Theory

[13:53–15:19]

• Alleged Meeting
  Urban legend cited: Davis, alongside government agents and private prison officials, allegedly convened a meeting urging rappers to promote violent, misogynistic content to fuel the prison-industrial complex.
  • “They were telling these rappers, you need to create songs talking about killing police, calling Black women Bs and hoes… so we could fill our prisons we’re building.” – Caller/Guest (13:53)
• Impact on Music and Culture
  The alleged shift from positive rap to “gangsta” music is discussed, with the narrative that corporate interests incentivized and accelerated the trend.
  • “So many people believe Clive Davis was one of the main people behind the movement to change rap music from something positive... to gangster rap, because they had just invested a ton of money into all of these prisons…” – Flo (15:19)

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3. Carmelo Anthony Case: Appeal, Justice, and Systemic Bias

[23:55–41:15]

• Case Update
  Carmelo Anthony’s appeal is underway. A “dream team” of prominent attorneys (including figures from the Innocence Project and NAACP) are taking his case pro bono following his murder conviction for the stabbing of Austin Metcalf at a track meet.
  • “A high profile legal team announced Monday that it will represent Carmelo Anthony as he appeals his murder conviction… The rumor is that some celebrity who just wanted to remain anonymous put together the money for this dream team.” – Flo (23:55)
• Details from the Trial
  The show plays excerpts from the 911 call that followed the stabbing, underscoring the emotional and tragic nature of the case.
  • “...in the end, family said the 17-year-old died in his twin brother’s arms.” – News Reporter (31:45)
• Evidence & Responsibility
  Questions raised about possible tampering after the incident:
  • “... breaking new footage shows Austin Metcalf’s friend hiding a knife in the trash can. The plot thickens.” – Flo (21:42)
• Systematic Bias and Jury Composition
  Extended conversation about whether Anthony would have been convicted by an all-Black jury and the lack of racial diversity in jury selections.
  • “If the jury was all Black, do you believe if the jury was all Black Carmelo would have been found guilty?” – Flo (35:54)
  • “If we overwhelmingly feel like there wouldn’t have been a guilty verdict with an all-Black jury, then how can we actually feel like it is fair for him to be found guilty with an all-white jury?” – Flo (41:16)

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4. Larger Commentary: Race, Equity, and the System

[41:16–67:08]

• Systemic Flaws
  Flo argues the biggest issue is not Black vs. White, but the inconsistencies and biases built into the U.S. legal (and broader) system—itself designed and perpetuated to keep people divided and distracted.
  • “We just have a system that is flawed. And if anybody, I don’t know if anybody will honestly tell me that this system isn’t flawed… It affects all of our lives. And because it affects all of our lives, I just feel like I wish, and I don’t have the answer, but I wish we had an answer for a more fair system…” – Flo (41:16)
• Comparison: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Case
  Flo uses this landmark case to illustrate perceived racial disparities in verdicts and sentencing, arguing that the legal standards applied should be consistent.
  • “...the main reason that I feel like Carmelo Anthony was wrongfully convicted, even if it was manslaughter… is what happened in the Trayvon Martin case.” – Flo (47:40)
  • “If George Zimmerman was found guilty, then I would have… looked at Carmelo Anthony’s case totally different.” – Flo (54:08)
• Flo’s Approach to Journalism
  Flo emphasizes fairness and applying the same scrutiny to all, regardless of race, sharing both the praise and backlash this attitude draws.
  • “I get grief from white people and black people. When I say that in this Carmelo Anthony case, I feel like Carmelo Anthony was overcharged… So I say all that to say, I’m about as fair as they come when it comes to journalists.” – Flo (54:52)
• The Importance of Unity
  Urges listeners not to be divided along racial lines, not to let systemic injustice sow unnecessary discord.
  • “Let’s stop letting the system make us hate each other when we don’t have a problem with each other.” – Flo (65:10)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “A lot of people think Clive Davis groomed a lot of people. Clive Davis in his own words came out and admitted that he was bisexual. I guess later on in his career, very controversial figures.” – Flo (06:09)
• “Needless to say, Clive Davis took a lot of things to the grave with him.” – Caller/Guest (08:01)
• “They feel people feel like there’s been rumors that he blackballed Nicki Minaj... exploited Whitney Houston... drove Phyllis Hyman to suicide... bullied Kelly Clarkson... cheated TLC out of money...” – Flo (09:43)
• “So many people believe Clive Davis was one of the main people behind the movement to change rap music… we got drill music and all type of crazy violent music to this day and a lot of people credit that to Clive Davis’s influence on rap music.” – Flo (15:19)
• “If the jury was all Black, do you believe if the jury was all Black Carmelo would have been found guilty?” – Flo (35:54)
• “If we overwhelmingly feel like there wouldn’t have been a guilty verdict with an all-Black jury, then how can we actually feel like it is fair for him to be found guilty with an all-white jury?” – Flo (41:16)
• "Don’t let this world trick us and have us bickering with each other and hating each other when the system is the biggest problem." – Flo (65:10)
• “[The system is] inconsistent with verdicts, inconsistent with fairness, have me and you arguing with each other, and we don’t have a problem with each other." – Flo (66:10)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |–|–| | 03:17 | Clive Davis’s passing, career overview, and audience reactions | | 04:10 | Discussion about infamous Clive/Brandy/Whitney photo and note | | 06:09 | Davis’s role in Diddy’s career; allegations and his coming out | | 08:01 | Recap of Davis’s controversial business dealings and legacy | | 13:53 | The “prison-industrial” meeting urban legend and its consequences | | 15:19 | Flo on Clive Davis’s alleged role in pushing gangster rap | | 23:55 | Carmelo Anthony’s appeal, legal “dream team” and funders | | 30:18 | Playing of the 911 call from the Austin Metcalf stabbing | | 35:54 | Juror race discussion and its impact on verdicts | | 41:16 | Systemic flaws and the call for fairness in justice | | 47:40 | Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman as precedent for legal outcomes | | 54:08 | Flo’s approach to racial balance and journalistic fairness | | 65:10 | Final plea: Don’t let systemic injustice divide people |

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Conclusion

Flo issues a passionate call for unity, context, and critical analysis of both news stories and the social systems through which they are filtered. Whether discussing Clive Davis’s complicated history, the Carmelo Anthony trial, or broader racial and institutional issues, Flo insists that it’s not about picking sides by race, but about seeking consistency, fairness, and understanding.

Signature Line:
“Don’t let this world trick us and have us bickering with each other and hating each other when the system is the biggest problem.” – Flo (65:10)

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Transcript

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Who we got in here? What's going on? Island girl? Enoch. Sharon. C. Tuck. Grandma. Excuse me. Grandma Kathy. What's up? Elise. Enigma. What's going on, y'?

[Caller/Guest]

All?

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Desi. Full house this morning. I see. Full house this morning, I see. What's going on, everybody. Man, the news cycle is still cycling. Of course we're gonna go into that Carmelo, Clive. We're gonna go into Carmelo Anthony. But Clive Davis, the controversial CEO, Is no longer here. And people have a lot to say about it. I'm sure y' all do, too. Y' all know Clive Davis, famously known for signing a lot of acts, including Whitney Houston.

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And

[Flow Show Host]

we still got questions. Anybody know what this picture about? I'm gonna put a picture up. This may be the most infamous picture of Clive Davis's career, in my opinion. This was. Anybody know what? What? What? This picture. What's the significance of this picture? Put it in the chat. This is Clive Davis, Brandy and I don't know who that is over there. And Whitney Houston, of course this picture will ever for forever be talked about because we still to this day don't know what the hell was exactly going on in this picture. But it is what it is. Yep. See Tex said that's when Whitney, that's when Whitney slid Brandy a note. And next thing we know, Whitney was unalived. To this day, Brandy refuses to say what was in that note. Yep, Des you right to this day, Brandi said she will take to the to her grave what was actually in that note. We all would like to know, but Clive Davis, who else? Clive Davis, we don't know. We a lot of people wondering does he know or have anything to do with what happened to Whitney Houston? Another infamous moment or infamous thing about Clive Davis's career

[Caller/Guest]

is

[Flow Show Host]

he was the kickstarter to the Bad Boy Diddy movement. A lot of people have speculated that Clive Davis and Diddy fooled around and that's. How did he got that big? Well, I don't know. It was almost a 50 million dollar deal or something that Clive Davis gave Diddy when after Andre Harrell famously fired Diddy from uptown. He was pup daddy back then and Clive Davis swooped in and gave him a lifeline. Millions and millions and millions of dollars and the rest is history. A lot of people think Clive Davis groomed a lot of people. Clive Davis in his own words came out and admitted that he was a bisexual. I guess later on in his career, very controversial figures. But behind the controversy, Clive Davis did sign and put out a lot of artists, legendary artists. Like I said, from Whitney Houston to. Who else did Clive Davis sign besides Whitney Houston? I know he signed a lot of people. Clive Davis signed besides Whitney Houston. Who else? Who else? Who else put him in the chat, y'?

[Caller/Guest]

All?

[Flow Show Host]

Who else did Clyde Davis sign? Of course he put did it Gay Diddy. That deal.

[Caller/Guest]

Passed away today at 94 years old. And if you thought that Diddy documentary was crazy, wait until they drop a documentary on Clive Davis. So music mogul Clive Davis passed away today at 94 years old. And the Internet got a lot to say. First and foremost, let me start off by saying rest in peace Whitney Houston, because I know for a fact she's smiling right now. And if y' all know why I'm saying that. She died at the Beverly Hilton on the same day as Clive Davis pre Grammy party. And of course we know that they said her death was an accidental drowning. David's name in the mix. Clive Davis was also linked to Diddy. A lot of people saying that Clive Davis told Diddy everything that he knew. But then you had a lot of people that didn't like Cloud Davis because they said he was exploiting black musicians, I. E. Jermaine Jackson and Michael Jackson. You remember when Jermaine Jackson had that song going to the bag? Yeah. That was because of Clock. Needless to say, Clive Davis took a lot of things to the grave with him. They asked question after question about things that happened with Diddy and he never addressed those things. And let's not forget that Cloud was one of the reasons that TLC went broke because of that bad contract. You gotta remember that TLC broke into that office and held him hostage so they can get out that contract. So trust me when I say a lot of people was unhappy with this man before he passed away, but I'm guessing they couldn't do nothing about it. You got some people saying that CL was one of the most evil people in the industry. More worse than that other guy with those fouls. So, like I said, Netflix is about to have a field day with that documentary Rest in Peace for those who

want to support Carmelo Anthony.

[Flow Show Host]

So, Clive Davis, man. Do you know, with all of the. Now I'm gonna give you some of. Some of the things that that would been. Have been alleged about Clive Davis if you didn't know. Like I said it. This is. I've never seen. I don't know. Last time I seen somebody pass away like this and so many people have so many bad things to say. Like, I. I didn't even see anybody say rest in peace, Clive Davis. Oh, I didn't know. So let me go through. He signed Clive Davis, signed Aretha Franklin, Jennifer Hudson, Alicia Keys, Angie Stone. And I didn't know this, but Island Girl says he signed Earth, Wind and Fire. I did not know that. Legendary groups. I didn't think it was a good move on how he kept the party going with Whitney Pasture. I didn't like that. I didn't like how he kept the party going. That's a good point. And what she's talking about, what Elise is talking about is Clyde Davis had a famous. Was it a Grammy party. And after Whitney Houston died, Clive Davis kept the party going as if Whitney Houston was just a footnote. But let's look over some of the things that. That he's been. He had been accused of and why it's such a controversial figure. Despite him signing so many legendary artists. They say that there's been a Let These are all alleged. All of these accusations are alleged. I'm not confirming them, but these are pretty well known stories. They feel people feel like there's been rumors that he blackballed Nicki Minaj. They say he, you know, Nicki Minaj is the rapper, female rapper. They say he exploited Whitney Houston. And a lot of people either feel like he has something to do with her passing or he knows what happened to the passing. Or at the very least he didn't acknowledge Whitney properly. But after she passed, just going on with the. With the Grammy party. A lot of people feel like he drove Phyllis Hyman to suicide. They say they feel like he bullied Kelly Clarkston. As you heard in the video I just played. They said he cheated. It's been alleged that he cheated TLC out of money. You remember TLC went famously broke after the blowing up and being one of the biggest groups of all time in the height of their career. And they said Clive Davis had an evil contract on them. They said he ruined Barry Manilow and Melissa Manchester. He exploited Janice Joplin. He sabotaged Luther Vandross. He was the big enabler to Diddy, bad boy artists and other and other artists. Notorious B.I.G. faith Evans and Mace. Now 1970s payola, drug allegations and funds misuse. That was a big story that was out about the payola scandal. You know, they were accusing Clive Davis of paying off radio stations to play songs. You know, that's illegal. Took a lot of people masters. It's a lot. It's been a lot. But I think the biggest. They talk about secret meetings. 1995, Clive Davis had a secret meeting at his house.

[Caller/Guest]

1995 meeting in Beverly Hills in the home of Clyde Davis, who was responsible for the murder of Whitney Houston. I said it. His days are numbered. And there were rappers there from all over the country. They were invited to the home apply Davis, along with members of the CIA, FBI, which they didn't understand why the government was in including many directors and CEOs of private. Of the private prisons throughout the United States. Was at that meeting in the mansion applied Davis and they were telling these rappers, you need to create songs. Talking about killing police, calling black women bees and hoes. You need to get more nasty so we could feel our presence that we're building. Okay,

you know what's crazy?

During that time, I can recall when that gangster music came into play.

That's it.

And how they, you know, I don't know if the guys rapping it really knew, but they created the atmosphere. Yeah, but it went from I remember guys wanted to wear like the African chains running next dancing and the haircuts flat tops get them place to the really thugged out and yes just the gang stuff and I can recall going into like liquor stores or different places and all they had was blue and red rags right it was just like that stuff about program

[Flow Show Host]

so many people believe Clive Davis was one of the main people behind the movement to change rap music from something positive or something happy and fun to gangster rap because they had just invested a ton of money into all of these prisons and then it's well known how music influences people and so they push rappers to make what's the word? They push rappers to make gangster music. You know the police and and and sell drugs and killing and that's where we got. We got drill music and all type of crazy violent music to this day and a lot of people credit that to Clive Davis's influence on rap music. Good morning everybody. At least that she waiting for 50 for 50s documentary. Before we continue y' all buy me a coffee let's get our goal we we we're couple with 200 away from our goal please I'm gonna put the link in the I'm actually gonna put the link in the chat right now. Give me one second copy link. So Clive Davis controversial figure. We want to know what the hell happened to Whitney Houston. We wanna we want to know what that letter was about questions we may never ever ever never never never never know the answer to. We want to know what that letter let's see here we go so please who gonna be who gonna be my favorite person today and be the first person to the first person to donate to the show Buy me a coffee. You can either send it straight to YouTube and do a super chat super sticker to help us keep the live alive or you can go to this link right here which I put in the chat buy me a coffee.com and donate a dollar five dollars, twenty dollars, a hundred dollars, a million dollars, whatever you can afford. We will go now car will still say rest in peace Clive Davis just you know one you know my motto once somebody's dead and gone I'll go over some of the news but I'm not gonna on nobody once when when they're gone but we will we can talk about speculation what Clyde may or may have not did but I still ended with a rest in peace Clive Davis. We still want answers about a lot of that Clive Davis was in between. Carmelo Anthony has hired a dream team apparently for the appeal Process, so we're gonna get into that. But do y' all know after my show yesterday. Oh, yeah, we got some Jay Z news. Y' all know Jay Z didn't put out that. That. That hair commercial, and they saying he trying to deflect away from some criminal activities that may come up. I don't know. I don't know. It's just speculation. As of right now, Jay Z hasn't been charged or even implicated by the authorities in anything recently. So as of right now, Jay Z is in the clear. But people are still speculating. Talk a little bit about that, but people are starting to say somebody had. Somebody. I'm trying to find it. Carmelo Anthony. All right, this was after the show yesterday. Remember I talked about what was that person doing that came before we get into the. Carmelo's legal team? Just something that I touched on yesterday. I wanted to bring it back up because now people are talking about it. Remember I said that when Carmelo Anthony, after he stabbed Austin, after Austin and Carmelo Anthony's inner altercation, the minute Anthony leaves the tent, we see another person run real quick to the trash can, appear to throw something in it, and then walk away from the trash can. I don't know. Like I told you yesterday, the grant, the footage is grainy. I'm not gonna act like I know exactly what that person was doing. I just thought it looked very suspicious that if someone would run immediately to the trash can and then, like, run to a stop and walk the other way, well, other people are starting to go. It's going viral now. People are picking up on it. I don't know if they saw the show or what. But now more people are saying it or just speculating. This one says, breaking new footage shows Austin Metcalf's friend hiding a knife in the trash can. The plot thickens. This is the. And then they posted this video. So I guess that's Carmelo running. But then they show. You see right there? That's the person. They're gonna show it again. Watch this trash can. See that person right there? Right there. And show it one more time. Comes out right there. Boom. Goes to the trash can, appears to put something in there, and then darts back. I don't know what that person was doing. That person could have been just throwing away some trash. But it just looks suspicious when you do it at the exact moment that an altercation takes place. And you run to the trash can and then walk back away from it after you look like you threw something, like, who needed to throw trash away. Exactly at that moment. Like when an altercation going on, I don't think most people the first when it's when it's when it's a serious altercation going on, somebody's been stabbed, fighting, whatever. Trying to see what needs to be thrown in the trash can is probably like the last, the last thing somebody would be worried about. So I don't know, like I said, I just thought it was very. I thought it was very ironic that right after we talked about on the show in the morning something that I said, I just noticed now I'm seeing it all over all over Twitter or X seen it all over social media. Tick tock. Everybody is wondering what that person was doing. I don't know what that person was doing. To be quite honest. I don't know. The footage is so bad. Who knows what they were doing? Okay, my favorite person today, my first person, my favorite is Enoch. Everybody show Enoch some love. Enoch just donated $10 to the buy me a coffee fund. Enoch. Everybody show Enoch some love for the ten dollar holla. Show her some love for showing me some love and keeping the live alive. So let's get back into the. Let's get back. Thank you so much. Enoch. What the hell? Enoch. Enoch. Showing me some love and threw me all the way off of what I was. What about what I was getting to next. But anyway, let's get into. I don't know what I was going to.

[Caller/Guest]

We.

[Flow Show Host]

We got to talk about Carmelo, his new legal team of high profile attorneys and somebody donated some money but I think they did it anonymously to pay for Carmelo's attorney fees. So let's check it out. High profile attorneys join Carmelo Anthony his appeal effort. This is from Channel 5 NBC, Dallas, Texas. Dallas Fork DFW a group of Texas attorneys attorneys say it will review the conviction and pursue all available appellate options. A high profile legal team announced Monday that it will represent Carmelo Anthony as he appeals his murder conviction and 35 year prison sentence in the death of Frisco teenager Austin Metcalfe. Now the announcement comes less than two weeks after Anthony filed a oath requesting court appointed legal assistance, saying he could no longer afford an attorney. The filing came the same day Anthony notified the court of his intent to appeal. In a news release issued by Stan with Carmelo, six attorneys from North Texas and Austin said they will represent Anthony pro bono while conducting what they described as a fresh and independent review of the trial record. The legal team, made up of appellate, civil rights and criminal defense attorneys, includes former Dallas county prosecutor Russell. Russell Wilson, which is not the quarterback, I'm sure. Michael Ware, director of the Innocence Project of Texas and Texas NAACP president Gary Bledsoe. Attorneys Brooke Clus of Ben Crump's Laws, Sean Der. Dia Derridia. Sorry, Derridia. And Justin A. Moore are also part of the appellate team. As we know, Anthony was convicted. Matter of fact, let's back that up. He got some heavyweights and this is a pretty expensive legal team. I would like to know who paid for this, but it's. The rumor is that some celebrity who just wanted to remain anonymous put together the money for. For this dream team, everybody. I think the most famous name on here is Ben Crump. Everybody know Ben Crump. He's been a part of a lot of big cases for African Americans. As namely, if I'm not, I know he was a part of the Rasheem Carter case. One of the. Actually the first case I've ever covered in depth. The Rasheem Carter case is one of the cases that made me who I am today in the journalism world. Now. Anthony was convicted by a Collin county jury on June 9 and April 2025 of the death of Austin Metcalf following an altercation at the Frisco track meet. Anthony maintains that he acted in self defense. Jury jurors later sentenced Anthony, now he is 19 years old, to 35 years in prison. The attorneys say they will hold off on interviews, but they released a statement addressing their role in the case. Our appellate team has been retained following the conviction to conduct a fresh independent review of the trial record. We recognize the profound loss suffered by one young man's family and the uncertainty facing another. And we extend our respect to everyone whose lives have been forever changed by these tragic events. The attorneys added. Our responsibility is to determine whether a legal error occurred and to ensure that every issue supported by the record is fully and vigorously presented on appeal. An appellate process exists for precisely this purpose. Anthony was represented at trial by privately retained defense attorney Mike Howard. A couple weeks ago, one of the attorneys now representing Anthony told NBC 5 that the appeal process is expected to take time and likely would not reach the fifth District Court of Appeals until later this year. Any appeal beyond that level could take significantly longer. Like I told people, this is not overnight. This is a long process. So, and, and, and Carmela Anthony is locked up in a pretty pretty. The prison. The prison that he is in and the. Actually part of that prison that he's gonna be in is pretty rough, pretty violent. So no matter the outcome of this appeal, the amount of time that Carmela Anthony will be in waiting for the appeal and just everything that's been going on he will be never be the same person he was prior to this incident that happened at the track meet. Lives forever changed. Both families forever change. Austin and the Metcalf's family will never be the same. The Carmelo Anthony family will never be the same. And that's the sadness of this situation in this story. The announcement follows the recent public release of documents including the 911 cause.

[Caller/Guest]

Shown in court before Carmelo were allowed.

[Flow Show Host]

So let's check out that 911 call. Since they brought it up first time

[Caller/Guest]

the public is getting a look we should warn you what you are about to trigger.

[Flow Show Host]

Warning. This, this 91 1. This 911 tape is pretty graphic.

[Caller/Guest]

Paramedics at Kirk Stadium right away.

[911 Dispatcher]

What's going on?

[News Reporter]

I have an evidence released Friday details the moment when a Frisco track meet devolved into a crime scene everywhere. The 911 calls and security footage were presented to Collin county jurors before they found Carmelo Anthony guilty of first degree murder in the death of Austin Metcalf. Investigators say it began with a confrontation when Anthony, a Centennial High School student, was sitting under Memorial High School's tent and Metcalf told him to leave. The video, which we have not altered in any way, shows a brief burst of action under the tent. Jurors then saw Anthony highlighted in the video running away. Body camera footage from two officers shows Anthony's arrest.

[Flow Show Host]

It's the alleged suspect.

[Caller/Guest]

No, I'm not.

[Flow Show Host]

I know how I go. I'm not a man. Okay, Memorial tent over there, guys.

[Caller/Guest]

All right.

[News Reporter]

The evidence included photos of the crime scene in the knife that prosecutors say Anthony used in the fatal stabbing.

[Caller/Guest]

We're doing compressions and giving them mouth to mouth.

[News Reporter]

911 call shared in court detailed the desperate attempt to save Metcalf. But in the end, family said the 17 year old died in his twin brother's arms. Anthony was sentenced to 35 years in prison in Collin County Alley Spilliards.

[Flow Show Host]

I actually wanted to hear the whole that's crazy. That's sad. I actually want the whole 91 1. I thought they were going to play like the whole 911 tape. I mean the 911 recording. Let's see. Let's see the Carmelo Anthony 9 1.

[911 Dispatcher]

What's going on?

[Flow Show Host]

Okay, here we go.

[Caller/Guest]

Paramedics at Kirkendall Stadium right away.

[911 Dispatcher]

Okay, what's going on?

[Caller/Guest]

I have an athlete that was stabbed.

[911 Dispatcher]

He was stabbed?

[Caller/Guest]

Yes.

[911 Dispatcher]

Okay. Stabbed him I don't know. Where in the stadium is he?

[Caller/Guest]

We are on the visit size bleachers. We have army veteran that's trying to keep compression on the wound.

[911 Dispatcher]

Okay. Are you with him now?

[Caller/Guest]

He is laying here. He is starting to go unconscious.

[911 Dispatcher]

How old?

[Caller/Guest]

High school age, so maybe 15, 16, 17.

[911 Dispatcher]

Okay, is he awake?

[Caller/Guest]

No, he's going to conscious.

[911 Dispatcher]

Okay, is he breathing?

[Caller/Guest]

Not right now.

[911 Dispatcher]

Breathing.

[Caller/Guest]

No, he's not.

[911 Dispatcher]

He's not breathing at all?

[Caller/Guest]

No.

[911 Dispatcher]

Okay, where was he stabbed? I've got them coming. All right, stay on the phone with me. Is the assailant still nearby?

[Caller/Guest]

I'm here.

[911 Dispatcher]

Is the assailant still nearby. With you? Is he breathing?

[Caller/Guest]

He's trying. Yeah. We're doing compressions and giving him mouth and mouth.

[911 Dispatcher]

Okay. Hey, they're doing CPR on him. Okay, Keep going. Okay.

[Caller/Guest]

Yes, ma'. Am.

[Flow Show Host]

All right, Candace Owens, what's your rebuttal for this one? What's the conspiracy? I want to hear because Charlie Curse alleged murder. All right, that was the 911 call. That's. That was tough, y'. All. As you know, you can hear them in the background saying, come on, Austin. Come on, Austin. So to just know that. That in that moment he was fighting for his life, that. That just. Man, unbelievable. Everybody who was in that situation will. Will be. Will look at life differently after that, man. But if you nicely had the video, there was still commotion after Carmelo definitely was still commotion after Carmelo left. Aha. Now, as far as this appeal, I think he. I think he would have a. I think he has a good chance at appeal. Honestly, it seemed like there were a lot of stones, a lot more stones to uncover in this case. We shall see. But first, I want to ask a question. And this is just. This is for everybody that. Let's, let's. This is going to be honesty hour. This isn't about arguing and fighting and. And racism and.

[Caller/Guest]

And.

[Flow Show Host]

And.

[Caller/Guest]

And.

[Flow Show Host]

And being nasty towards each other. This is just answering questions honestly. Now, I want to ask y' all a question. You know, all the jurors have to be in, in, in, in sync to get a guilty verdict. You need. All we need. We need. We need a. Everybody on there to be in agreeance, all the jurors, right? So I want to just ask a question just to. Just to see what y' all think and so we can get to the bottom line of what this system that we deal with. Forget black, Forget. Forget about the people. We're not talking about us as the people. We're just literally talking about this system. So I want to ask a question. If the jury was all black, Do you believe if the jury was all black, put a one in the chat. If you think if the jury was all black, Carmela would have would have been found guilty, put a one in the chat. If you believe if the jury was all black that Carmela would have been found guilty, put a two in the chat. If you think he would have been not guilty with an all black jury. I need y' all to answer this question. I, I'm getting to a. I'm making a point, but let's start with that. If there was, if this was an all Black jury, put a 1 in the chat if you think Carmelo Anthony would have been found still found guilty, put a 2 in the chat if you think he would have been found not guilty with an all black jury. I need everybody to answer this question because we're going to have an informative, healthy conversation about this system. This is not about anger. We said rest in peace to Austin Metcalf. This tragedy. Carmelo Anthony's life is forever changed. He's looking at 40 years right now in the roughest prison you could imagine. In the roughest prison you can imagine. Thank you. D is probably making my point. D says 2. I have never heard of an all black jury. Of course you've never heard of an all black jury. And the only reason I see a lot of, I see a lot of people, I see tools, I see one, one from Sharon, I see even Elise pick three. Enoch says two along with Denise. And the only reason I'm making this asking this question is because I did a poll on social media and overwhelmingly everybody said that if there was an all black jury he would have been found not guilty. But see how Grandma Kathy and this is my point. So if even if you pick in three, you not picking one. We got one person said one. So even if you picking three, you're not picking one. And my only point of even bringing this up because I've already had a poll in which overwhelmingly everybody said he would have been found not guilty or he wouldn't have been found guilty with an all black jury. And you see people saying I've never heard of an all black jury, blah blah, blah, blah blah, even though we've heard of all white juries. So the point that I'm making is if we overwhelmingly feel like there wouldn't have been a guilty verdict with the all black jury, then how can we actually feel like it is fair for him to be found guilty with an all white jury. And that is what I believe is one of the biggest flaws in the system. And like people saying there never be an all black jury. Right? So what I'm saying is if we all can agree that 80 to 90% of people feel like if it was an all black jury, they're not, they don't think he would have been found guilty. They're picking any option but guilty. So if we in the same breath all just common sense understand that, that to be pretty much true, how can we feel like it is fair to have an all white jury? I'm not talking about if he did it, if he didn't do it, if he was innocent. I'm just talking about the system.

[Caller/Guest]

System.

[Flow Show Host]

That way we can get out of our ways of trying to argue back and forth between who's right or who's wrong between Austin and Carmelo and black and white. We are only talking about the system that we are. People's lives depend on this system. And so I told you, I look at things from, from both, I look at the big picture. I look at black, white, whatever. I just look at the system. I'm open minded and I look equally into both and give each side a fair shake. So I'm saying, and so what I feel like again, if we can, if we can just honestly say with the black jury, he wouldn't have been found guilty. And you got people saying there would never be an all black jury. Okay, so how can we as a people, and I'm talking about, as a people that care about fairness and equality for everybody, Black, white, no white kids should be killed. No black kids should be killed. We, we, we, we, we love all our children. I fight for all children. If you've been following my career, I attack stories that got missing white kids, missing white women, missing black women, missing black kids. I attack them all the same. We love all our children and our women and our, and our people. We love them all. I don't have hate towards anybody. My problem is the system. And I'm trying to show you why we have a problem and why there is a problem that we need to address. We just said, we just seen it in, in the comments. There'll never be an all black jury. I've never seen an all black jury. If it was an all black jury, he would be found not guilty or he wouldn't have been found guilty. People have even took option three. But nobody, very few people think you'll be found guilty. So in that same breath then we have to acknowledge crime aside we're not talking about the Carmelo if you think he, it was guilty or not. We're just talking about the system that we deal with. If we can say that all black jury would have been an unfair. Because we're just saying, we're not talking about the evidence, we just saying all black jury, he wouldn't be found guilty. That is just as unfair as an all white jury finding them guilty. Because like we pretty much know all white jury, he found guilty. So what I'm saying is we need to figure out. And it could be. It might not ever happen, but we just need to figure out a fair approach. I think the jury should always be mixed. I just think it all. I shouldn't, I don't think it should be all black. I don't think it should be all white. I think because if we're being honest, the race of the jury matters more than anything. That is why we talk about it. If it's an all white jury, if it's, if it's like in the Diddy case, there were quite a few men who were on that, who are on the jury. And a lot of people said there were too many men or so, you know, race and gender matter. But when you're dealing with a trial with racial component, I just feel like there should be a mix to make it fair because I just laid out why I just laid out to you. We all know if it was an all black jury, it'd be hard to get a guilty verdict out of this case. All white jury, we got a guilty verdict. I just feel like on both sides, that is one of the biggest flaws in our system. I just feel like, just to feel that it's fair, you know, I'm not talking about. Look, and also the Kamala Anthony lawyer was horrible. He put on a terrible defense. And then also when you meet a, when they just know somebody pushed and another person stabbed, the person who stabbed you automatically look like a violent criminal who needs to be imprisoned. From out, you know, from people who, they're just looking at the case and it's like just looking at it from the surface. Oh, this person just pushed and then this person stabbed and killed it. Oh, that's too much. So it's just a lot of elements. And then when I thought about that, the fact that we will never have a black people haven't even heard of an all black jury. It's just a system that has flaws, man. That, that, that, that because of the flaws in the system, all of us are arguing with each other. And it's not our fault. We just have a system that is flawed. And if anybody, I don't know if anybody will honestly tell me that this system isn't flawed, I mean, it is, it's pretty much common knowledge. But this system dictates life or death for people. This system dictates freedom or imprisoned. It affects all of our lives. And because it affects all of our lives, I just feel like I wish, and I don't have the answer, but I wish we had an answer for a more fair system that way. I think it would eliminate a lot of us arguing with each other and being nasty with each other when the actual culprit is this system that makes people feel like it's unfair. So although a lot of us are just looking at the evidence for what it is, but there is a lot of people on both sides of the coin, that evidence be damned. They just feel like the system is unfair. And there are times where black people are unalived, where we as black people feel like it wasn't fair and people got away with murder. Just like on the other side, there are cases where white people feel like black people have got away with it. I mean, O.J. simpson, it's a good, a good example. O.J. simpson was a case where it seemed like it was clear as day to, to most people that it was murder of, of his ex wife or Nicole Brown Simpson. And O.J. was found not guilty and white America went crazy. So it happens. But it is. But then guess who argues and fights us. We want to hit each other. We want to talk shit about each other when the actual problem that is, still have, has not been addressed is this system that makes people, especially black people, feel, like I said, I mean, the facts are the facts. Blacks, black men that look like me overwhelmingly get more time for the exact same convictions as our white counterparts. This is a fact. We read that on the other, on another episode from the Prison Commission or whatever it's called, they did this fact. And so my job is to approach things as fair as I can. Of course I'm going to hold down my people, my community, the best of my ability. But at the same time, I believe in fairness. I have compassion for all walks of life, even animals. So it's not even just about black. I got compassion for animals. I don't like to see animals killed. I don't like to even, you know, I like to live and let live and even in the animal world. So I'm just the type of person, I have compassion for everybody involved Even if I disagree, let's say, oh, and I'm gonna lie. The reason, the main reason that I feel like Carmelo Anthony was wrongfully convicted, even if it was manslaughter, I'm not saying I would thought that mostly should have got manslaughter, but honestly, the number one reason is what happened in the Trayvon Martin case. Because in that case, I thought that was open and shut case of murder of a young man who didn't do anything. Trayvon Martin didn't have a weapon. Trayvon Martin didn't follow this guy. He wasn't breaking in somebody's homes. He wasn't doing anything. And this guy, despite even the police telling him to leave Trayvon Martin alone, George Zimmerman still chased him around, stalked him, started the altercation, and then unalive Trayvon Martin. When the verdict was found, when he was found innocent, it totally threw me off. I, I, that was the case. That's probably the last case I was completely wrong about. I predicted a guilty verdict and it was not guilty. And that's when I kind of learned about stand your ground as far as I've always heard of it, but I didn't know exactly, you know, technically what stand your ground was. And it was that if you're, if you fear for your life, in a sense, you can just unalive somebody. If you are in fear for your life, you can go as far as you need to go to protect your life. And so after the Trayvon Martin case, I looked at stand your ground and self defense and all that in a totally different way. I said, if this guy can do, if that's not guilty, to me, I don't see how Carmelo Anthony gets the full thing. And that is why it's not about black and white for me. It's not about black and white. If I felt Carmelo Anthony was guilty of murder and deserved 100 years, based on other cases that I've covered, I would say it was guilty. Y' all been following me for a long time. I, you know, I get just as much grief. I get grief from white people and black people. I get grief from black people. When I cover Diddy, when I cover Jay Z, when I, when I cover some of the criminal things that Jay Z could have been wrapped up in, or Diddy, or when I cover Floyd Mayweather, when I cover black stories and there could be a negative, but we're holding people accountable. Oh, I get grief from black people all the time. When I say that in this Carmelo Anthony case, I feel like Carmelo Anthony was overcharged. And if it was me, I would have thought manslaughter or self defense based on the stand your ground rule. And then I get grief from white people. But my thing is this, as long as I'm getting grief every other day from both sides, I'm comfortable because that means I'm being fair. Today I might have some white people mad at me because I feel like Carmelo Anthony's verdict wasn't 100 correct. Tomorrow I have black people screaming at me because I'm covering Diddy and letting the word about to know about all the false, all the foul stuff he's done. So I say all that to say I'm about as fair as they come. When it comes to journalists. If you compare me to most of the people that cover news stories, when it comes to the racial component of it, I am definitely one of the most fair out there, like I said, and I believe in that. And it means a lot to me to be as fair as I can be. At the end of the day, I'm still a black man. At the end of the day, I still go through a lot, go through a lot of being a black man. You don't hear me on here complaining about it or talking about it every other day. I am a black man. But I still believe in fairness. I still believe in there are good. I see the good in everybody. I believe there are bad seeds in every race. We got bad. We got some bad seeds in the black world and some, some bad seeds in the white world, Hispanic and all of that. So it's it to me, I judge each thing and each person based on how you treat me or how you treat the world. I don't give a what your color is. So it's just unfortunate that there is so many people who race bait and just stay on one side or the other just strictly because of a race. That ain't me. Like I said, if I thought Carmella Anthony was guilty, to be honest, if Trayvon Martin, if George Zimmerman was found guilty, I would feel a lot better about Carmelo Anthony being found guilty. That's just how it goes. So that's why I say it's not about race. I'm not looking at race. I'm looking at case. And in the, in the legal world, each case is, has somewhat of an effect on the, on the next case. So, you know, in one case you say, okay, well, these are the facts and this person was found innocent. You kind of want to keep a consistency and who's found Guilty, who's found innocent. So it doesn't have me, for me, it doesn't have me doing black and white. To me, it just has, it has more to do what happened in previous cases. And based on previous cases, that is why I'm looking at this case and like, wow, hold on. Like I said, if George Zimmerman was found guilty, then I would have no. And there are other stand your ground cases. I'm just, to me, the George Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin is one of the most famous ones that people everybody kind of know and watched. And so like I said, I feel like if they were found, if, if George Zimmerman was found guilty, I would, I would, I wouldn't have, I would, I would look at Carmela Anthony's case, totally different. I would be like, hey, you push. He pushed you, but you stabbed him, you know, and you killed him. That's, I mean, that's murder. But based on other cases, like I said, in Trayvon Martin is just one. There's quite a few where people unalive someone claim self defense and they actually instigated it and they were found innocent because of self defense. So that's just my two cents on that. Like I said, the system to me is the problem. And also not just the system, but we need to hold adults a little more accountable for what goes on. We can't be putting too many responsibilities on kids. And then when shit goes left, we all looking crazy wondering why it went left. Well, kids are kids. They got a lot of growing to do, a lot of experiences to go through before they realize how to handle themselves out here. And we as adults have to do the heavy lifting. We cannot put it on our kids. As, as you can see, you put kids in front of, in control or in any position of power and have them doing things that we should be taking care of. Adults. It's just not a good situation. Enoch says, let's go to the chat before we get out of here and see what y' all think. Enoch says, that person in the video putting something in the bin. If you carry on the video of the part when Carmelo is walking with the coach back, you see that person take something out that bin and put it in his what? Pocket. Pocket. And then hurry up. See, I don't know. That's a lot. It's a lot of stuff to dig into. Fire Glory says F. Dilla. He deserves to stay in prison. Enoch says he was. Carmela was never in trouble. Straight up. A student and a top notch team will vindicate him. Grandma Kathy says Carmelo hated his competition. He wanted him gone. Island girl says, bottom line is nobody should have been stabbed no matter what the race. If it was self defense, if it was not self defense, no stabbing should have showed. No. Yeah. If it was not self defense, no stabbing should occur. And if it was self defense and the stabbing would occur. Yeah, right. I think like I said, many people feel like it's race, but I would feel like, I feel like 80% of people are just judging it off of what they feel and know the facts to be. I would feel like 20 of people are just siding with whatever race they are. So I think that, I think the people sign just strictly upon race are actually the smallest number. But they, but they are loudest people. They tend to be the loudest people. So like I said, I think the majority of the world is judging this case on what they actually feel. With the evidence that we've been shown shows. I really think the majority of the world is actually being fair about whether they right or wrong. That's a whole nother story. But I think 80% of the world is judging is based on the facts. On what, on from what their, their perspective. I think 20 of the world is just, which is a small number is just people saying, okay, I'm just siding with the black person because I'm black. I'm just saying with the white person because I'm white. I, I really think that, I don't think, I think most people are being fair. Like I said, I'm one of the people. I'm not saying what I'm saying just because somebody black or white. I'm saying it and I'm laying out the reasons why. It's other cases that were similar and, and, and there were much, much, much different verdicts, far different verdicts. A complete innocent verdict for somebody who unalived a little kid is a far cry from somewhat similar situation. And another person got damn near 40 years and the other person is found innocent. So, so if you're familiar with the, with the trade. This, this, this, this is not, this is my last question when I get out of here. If you're familiar with the Trayvon Martin George Zimmerman case, do you think George Zimmerman, if you think George Zimmerman was innocent, put a one in the chat. If you think George Zimmerman was, should have been guilty, put a two in the chat. That's an interesting question that, that will tell me a little more about why there's so much controversy on this case. One in the chat. If you think George Zimmerman got the correct verdict of Being found innocent. Put a 2 in the chat if you think George Zimmerman was guilty. I really would like to see these answers. 2, 2, 2. So here we are. A lot of tools. Let me put, put. Give me. Give me some more votes. And all I'm trying to do, if y' all don't y' all notice. All I'm trying to do is show people why there's so much confusion behind this verdict. And it's not just. It's like we. It's like we get to the point where we just think there's a lot of black people that hate white people and there's a lot of white people that hate black people. No, look at the chat. It's the system. Y' all quit letting the system have us black and white, who we see each other and talk to each other on the daily. We have good conversations. It's generally good, spirited things going on. Let's stop letting the system make us hate each other when we don't have a problem with each other. You can see in this chat all of these tools. So there's a lot of people, not just in this chat, there's a lot of people who disagreed with the Trayvon Martin George Zimmerman verdict. A lot of people and a life. And a kid, an innocent kid's life was lost at the hands of an adult. And so the confusion on how that particular case, how they came with that verdict and how it was explained to us has carried over into other verdicts, namely this verdict. And I just want people to understand it's not all about just. It's blacks hating whites and whites. It's not that. It's the system and the inconsistency of the system. If you can look in this chat and you see all of these tools, there was a lot of people who disagree with that verdict, yet he was found not even manslaughter. He was found innocent. He didn't. They didn't even give him manslaughter. They didn't even give George Zimmerman manslaughter. And they broke it down to us and said is because, stand your ground. If you feel for your life, you have the right to unalive somebody, in a sense. So I'm begging everybody, y', all, this, if you take anything from what I'm presenting, just understand. I'm just trying to get people to. To understand. It's a very small pocket of people who are just saying, carmelo's innocent because I'm black, because the person is black, or. Or the person saying he the guilty because they're white. That's a small pocket of people. The majority of us are just saying what our opinion is based on the evidence and based on verdicts in the past. And I think if more people understood that, there wouldn't be so much racial animosity, because it's not really. It's a racial component to it, but it's not the only component. Like I said, if you look in the chat, you see all of these tools. That's a lot of people that represent. If you see a lot of tools, which means a lot of people think that Trayvon Martin lost his. Trayvon Martin lost his life unfairly, just like people feel about Austin Metcalf. But we were told that that was self defense and he could kill Trayvon Martin because he feared for his life, even though he initiated it. So we got a similar thing here. So y' all open your eyes, open your ears and realize, man, don't let this world trick us and have us bickering with each other and hating each other when the system is the biggest problem. And like I said, it's just not fair that we let. We allow a system in place that is inconsistent with verdicts, inconsistent with fairness, have me and you arguing with each other, and we don't have a problem with each other. I don't have a problem with you. You don't have a problem with me. I didn't do anything to you. You didn't do anything to me. So we shouldn't be against each other like that. You know, and like I said, I'm one of the. You watch a million podcasts. A million. You're not gonna hear anybody touch upon these things that I'm touching upon because I am trying to have less division, because I do understand the division is. Is not coming from. It's not just we, not just a whole country of just a bunch of racist, hateful people. We're not. We just let the little small pocket of people who are. They kind of. They kind of make the most noise, and it makes it look like we all just. Just behind our race. And it's not that. It's more or less a system that needs to be addressed, y'.

[Caller/Guest]

All.

[Flow Show Host]

And I appreciate everybody who is. Thank you. Desi said the system is winning if we argue amongst ourselves. Sadly, that's exactly what they want. And, and if anybody been following my career. No, I've been speaking against that. I refuse to let the system have me hating white people or hating Hispanic people or, Or. Or. Or. Or wishing every white person goes to prison and every black person goes free. I, I, I'm not gonna ever buy into that. When I tell you what I feel about a case, it has nothing to do with black or white. It has everything to do with the facts in that particular case and the verdicts that have came from cases that are similar. That's it. That's how I look at it. That's how I forever look at it. Because I cover everybody's cases, so I can't be up here and be biased because I cover everybody cases. And if I was biased, it would be obvious. I wouldn't cover Diddy. I would be saying Diddy is if, if I was that type of person, I'd be saying Diddy is innocent. Did he didn't do nothing wrong. Jay Z ain't do nothing wrong. R. Kelly didn't he he a victim of the system. I'm not up here preaching that if you wrong, you wrong. If you write, you right. And that's how I bring it every day and all day Monday through Friday, 8:30am here on the Flow show, no filter. So put some respect on my name. I'm just playing. But anyway, great conversation, y'.

[Caller/Guest]

All.

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Another great show. I appreciate y'. All update. My grandfather has passed on, guys. Thank you for everybody asking. I meant to update you. I get so caught up in, in the show and it's a lot of stuff. Every show that I forget to talk about. Like I said, one day soon, this show gonna be two hours long because it really. I could go every episode. There's a lot of stuff that I want to talk about that I'm not able to get to. So look forward to in the future. This show will be two. I'm gonna stretch it to two hours so I can get everything out the way. But yeah, my grandfather, Frank Miller has passed. He lived a full life. He was 89. 89. He would have been 90 on his birthday this year. So 89. But he loved my granny, his wife. They were married for, I don't know, 30 to 40 years. 30 something, almost 40 years. He loved that. He loved my granny to death. She passed about five, six, seven years ago. You know how time go by once somebody passed and it just seemed like the time, it might even be 10 years at this point. But he loved Granny to death. And I mean, one of those husbands that all his friends, all her friends was his friends. He didn't even have his own friends. My grandfather's whole life was about his wife, Granny. I mean, they hunt. They. They were together 24, 7, 24 hours a day. Seven days a week. They did everything together. He loved. I don't know if I've ever seen a man love a woman as hard as my granddad loved Granny. And so I say all that to say I knew once he was close to death. I pretty much knew he would get out of here sooner than later because I would feel like he was ready to go be with Granny. So he transported him to hospice, and he was in hospice for maybe a few years. A few years? I'm sorry, a few days. He was only a hospice for a few days, and he went home to Granny. So he lived a full life. And like I said, he is now back reunited with his wife, my granny. And like I said, I don't know if I've ever seen a man love a woman more than my granddad loved my granny. So sad to see him go, but happy that he is reunited with his love of his life, Granny. I'm sure they are camped out. I know that. I'm sure they're in heaven going on camping trips right now. They probably in heaven fishing and. And. And watching Jeopardy. Things that I know they always did go fishing, watch Jeopardy, watch Wheel of Fortune, and just hang out with each other. So I appreciate everybody asking. I wanted to give that nice update because a few days I saw somebody mentioned him, and I wanted to update everybody, but I just kept forgetting. So thank you to everybody, as always. Thank you for all the well wishes. Enigma says, I'm out. Island girl says, sending you condolences. Desi says, sorry to hear flow rep. Rest in peace, Frank. Thank you for that. Rest in peace, Mr. Frank Miller, aka Granddad, a legend in our family for sure. And as always, I'll see y' all tomorrow. I love y', all, but I'm out.