Clive Davis And The Whitney Mystery

Summary

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The Flo Show, No Filter

Episode: Clive Davis And The Whitney Mystery
Date: June 24, 2026
Host: Flo
Co-host/Guest: C. Tuck

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Flo Show, No Filter dives into the recent passing of legendary music executive Clive Davis and reignites conversations about longstanding industry rumors, conspiracies, and, most notably, the “Whitney Houston mystery”. Host Flo and guest C. Tuck examine Clive Davis's relationships with artists like Diddy and Whitney Houston, question strange industry patterns, and speculate on what really happens behind the closed doors of the music business. The conversation blends personal anecdotes, reflective warnings, and unfiltered conspiracy theories, all delivered with Flo’s candid, matter-of-fact style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Clive Davis, Diddy, and Industry Rumors

Timestamps: 04:40 – 14:50

• Flo revisits old rumors surrounding Clive Davis's alleged relationships and business dealings, specifically mentioning Diddy (“Puff/Puff Daddy”) and speculations about how Diddy got his big break.
  • "Diddy was down on his luck...Clive Davis gave Diddy millions of dollars of deals. Now, knowing what we know about Diddy now, and knowing what we know about Clive now..." (04:59)
• Discussion of Clive’s sexuality and hidden industry dynamics at the time, including Diddy's reputation and later admissions.
  • "Clive Davis, you know, he came out later on as bisexual as himself. So back then we didn't know..." (07:34)
• Rumors of blackmail and videotapes between Diddy and Clive in their later years, hinting at alleged power struggles and silence following Clive’s death:
  • “They said Diddy threatened to blackmail Clive with some video…they said that was another proponent of what got Diddy raided because they went in there to get those videotapes…” (10:36)
• Notably, the absence of comment from Diddy following Clive’s death is seen as suspicious by both hosts.
  • “That’s a big death for Diddy. Did not say none…nothing…something to that, bro.” (13:51)

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2. Foreshadowing of Industry Revelations

Timestamps: 13:56 – 15:04

• Speculation that documentaries and exposés about Clive will emerge now that he's passed.
  • “You know it’s gonna be one documentary … And then they better, they better put everything in that too.” (14:01, C. Tuck)
• Anticipation that new stories may emerge, with people emboldened to share now that Clive is gone.
  • “I just feel like it’s a lot more information that’s...gonna come out now that he actually gone.” (14:13)

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3. Historical Patterns and Suspicious Artist Deaths

Timestamps: 15:04 – 17:52

• The hosts observe that many of Clive’s Black artists died under strange circumstances, including heart attacks, overdoses, suicides, or car accidents, paralleling other figures like Diddy.
  • “If you pay attention to Clive Davis, most of his black artists either died from a heart attack, drug overdose, or some freak ass car accident, suicide or committed suicide. It’s crazy.” (16:33)
• C. Tuck draws a connecting line between Clive and Diddy as “puppet masters” with eerily similar patterns in their entourages.

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4. The “Whitney Mystery”

Timestamps: 17:52 – 24:03, 55:21 – 63:39

• The day of Whitney Houston’s death is examined deeply:
  • The now-notorious moment when Whitney passed Brandy a note at Clive’s pre-Grammy event, and the orchestrated nature of Whitney’s actions that day.
    • “She goes in, she speaks to Brandi... she then smoothly says, ‘Brandy, this is for you.’” (18:12)
• Clive’s decision to continue his party at the same hotel where Whitney’s body lay is called out as “heartless.”
  • “Clive went on to have the party anyway with Whitney Houston’s dead body in the same hotel. You got to be a heartless... to do that.” (20:46)
• Ongoing mysteries: No real investigation into where drugs came from, conflicting reports about cause of death, missing hotel footage, Brandy’s unwillingness to reveal the note's contents.
  • “There’s no investigation into what happened with Whitney… you got cameras… We ain’t seen a lick of footage…” (60:23, Flo)
  • “...for her to say she gonna take it to her grave and not say this or that lets you know it's something.” (63:37, Flo)

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5. Industry Corruption and Insurance Conspiracies

Timestamps: 24:03 – 37:18

• Record labels taking out insurance policies on artists and the suggestion that these policies become “cash grabs” following artist deaths.
  • “…they have some type of insurance policy based on your artistry…imagine what a Whitney Houston insurance policy look like…” (24:11, C. Tuck)
• Both hosts reflect on the broader practice of exploiting artists’ vices—especially drugs—as a means of control.
  • “They pushing them drugs. That’s how they control you.” (30:46, Flo)
• The idea that strong-minded or independent artists are often sidelined by the industry.
  • “If you got a strong mind… you gotta do it independent. They do not like nobody with their own mind.” (46:33, Flo)

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6. Personal Industry Experiences: Integrity vs. Fame

Timestamps: 37:18 – 54:41

• Flo shares candid anecdotes from his own time in the industry, recounting how his refusal to “go to the weird parties” led to being ostracized by label execs.
  • "The more like that I wouldn’t go to the parties… the interest went like that and I ain’t understand it as a kid, as a youngin, I understand it now…” (36:58)
• Cautionary tale: The story of Earl Hayes, an artist on Floyd Mayweather’s label, who tragically killed himself and his girlfriend on FaceTime with Floyd—a stark illustration of the dangers for artists lacking strong support and clear boundaries.
  • “This industry… will… suck you dry if you let them. Earl Hayes was a regular dude like me and you… but got too caught up in that industry and… went out…” (53:12)

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7. The Michael Cormier Thread & Alleged Cover-Ups

Timestamps: 55:21 – 62:43

• Flo introduces the story of Michael Cormier, an LA coroner who allegedly uncovered irregularities in Whitney’s autopsy, was about to go to the police—and was supposedly poisoned.
  • “Within weeks, he was found dead, poisoned from arsenic or something. It’s just a random white dude who worked for the coroner office with a mysterious death tied to it.” (56:48)
• Hosts express skepticism at the official narrative surrounding Whitney’s death, pointing out rapid case closure, lack of follow-up, and absence of hotel surveillance footage.
  • “...no investigation… no footage… for somebody to be that big and not… no coverage. It don’t make no sense.” (62:45)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "You can't put nothing past nobody, man. So to find out now...it all makes sense, man." (08:31, Flo)
• "That’s a big death for Diddy. Did not say none of that." (13:14, Flo)
• “He definitely did control them because you got to think of the type of the influence that they had on the people in general… Whitney Houston was a huge star…” (28:41, C. Tuck)
• “If you ain’t a dope head or they ain’t got nothing they can control you with, they actually scared of you.” (30:58, Flo)
• “The more that I wouldn’t go to the parties…the industry got colder and colder to me.” (38:47, Flo)
• “Earl Hayes shot and killed his girl while she was in the tub and then shot himself while he was on FaceTime with Floyd.” (50:50, Flo)
• “The ones who just say, ‘Hey, just sign me…do anything to me,’ [those] ones, they blow up, [but] they're the ones that end up being suicide, mysterious death…” (54:42, Flo)
• “We will be back tomorrow. This was a good one. I wanted to talk about this Clive Davis and this weird industry with y’all.” (64:50, Flo)

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• 04:40 – 14:50: Early industry rumors; Diddy, Clive, blackmail speculation
• 17:52 – 24:03: Analysis of the Whitney Houston death; The note to Brandy; Clive's Grammy party
• 24:03 – 37:18: Industry conspiracies, insurance policies, drugs as control
• 37:18 – 54:41: Personal experiences in the industry; story of Earl Hayes
• 55:21 – 63:39: Michael Cormier, Whitney death cover-up theories, lack of investigation

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Flow & Tone

Flo drives the discussion with an unfiltered, first-person narrative—openly speculating, sharing personal accounts, and expressing skepticism toward industry “explanations.” The episode feels raw, conspiratorial, and at times cautionary, with Flo encouraging listeners to think critically about the business of fame and power.

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This episode is a detailed, provocative exploration of music industry mysteries—from Clive Davis's personal life to famous unresolved artist deaths—with plenty of street-level insight and speculation for anyone curious about what really happens behind the scenes.

Transcript

[Flow Show Host]

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Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Y' all must can't hear me. I said put a 1 in the chat if y' all can hear me. Y' all can't hear me. Let me know if y' all can hear me. Check, check, check. Mic check, one, two. What is this? Okay, okay, okay, okay. Here come the ones. Good morning, everybody. Got a lot going on. Funeral. The funeral is this weekend. This has just been a heck crazy week. Got a lot going on. But we are here live and direct. How's everybody feeling? Let's do a roll call. Let's see, we got island girl Sharon, Grandma Kathy. What's up? See Tuck. Anita, Desi. What's up with Anita? What up? What up with everybody? Everybody. Everybody feeling? How's everybody's taco? Tuesday, today Wednesday. I don't know if Anita was thinking today was Tuesday or what, but just in case, just in case, today is hump day and with the recent passing of Clive Davis, the whole world and when I say the whole world. I'm talking about the Internet. It's all good, Anita. I get confused on the days all the time. That's why I had to check. When you said Taco Tuesday, I was like, well, maybe it might be Tuesday. I, I miss. I, I get the days of the week confused all the time anyway. But anywho, Anywho, any who, Any who. Yeah. With the recent passing of Clive Davis, the whole world. And when I say the world, I've been talking about the Internet. Everybody's talking about all the different conspiracies and rumors and allegations that Clive Davis has been caught up in or was caught up in. Now, we all know he, he, he got, he gave Diddy a start. And I believe, I believe Clive was Diddy's. They fooled around, in my opinion, and me just speculating. This is not coming from no source. This just me speculating. We're gonna talk about the Whitney situation, but let me the Diddy situation. Diddy was down on his luck, had just got fired from Uptown Records and Clive Davis gave Diddy millions of dollars of deals. Now, knowing what we know about Diddy now, and knowing what we know about Clive now, all the stuff I was hearing and being told back in the day, back in the Craig Mack days, what we talking about? Early 90s, I remembered, I remember hearing that, that, that, that Clive Davis and Diddy was fooling around. But back then, but back then, I did not think that was true. I was like, man, Diddy ain't or put. At this time, he was Puff Daddy. I'm like, puff. Puff ain't so.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Yes.

[Flow Show Host]

Y' all know Puff is Diddy. Just so you know, if I call him Puff, I'm talking about Diddy. But when I go back in that era makes me say Puff. So Puff, AKA Diddy, they were saying that he was fooling around with Clive Davis and that's how he got the deal. I did not. I had no. I thought that was a hundred percent false. So, see, Tuck, back in the day, all my, my little industry people and all that used to tell me that Clive, that, that the way Diddy got his deal is Diddy was with Cloud Davis. Now back then, you gotta think we didn't know none of this. Like, knew Diddy was a little wild back then, you know, like as far as from rumors, but didn't know none of this. We know now, like, right?

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Yeah.

[Flow Show Host]

And Clive Davis, you know, he came out later on as bisexual as himself. So back then we didn't know. I didn't know none of that. So I'm thinking like when I was hearing, when they were telling me about that, I was like, I just thought that was just a made up. I'm like, did he ain't. First of all, I didn't think Diddy swung that way like that, especially to that level.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

All right?

[Flow Show Host]

And then I didn't know that about Clive, you know, at that time it wasn't, it wasn't common knowledge. So I was thinking that was like far fetched. I'm like, did he, I think he just literally got it out the mud, you know what I mean? I told you I was a big fan back then and it's just crazy. That's why that shows me or that taught me like anything is possible, man. You know what I mean? Because at that time I would have never, you couldn't have paid me to

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

believe that like you can't put, you, you can't put nothing past nobody.

[Flow Show Host]

Yeah, you can't put nothing past nobody, man. So to find out now on how wild Diddy is first of all and how, how gay, you know that Diddy, you know, he get down even now we learning even more with him admitting basically to the Jonathan Hayes situation, you

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

know what I'm saying?

[Flow Show Host]

He basically said he, he remember Jonathan Hay said he forced his, his itty bitty Diddy in his mouth.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Yeah.

[Flow Show Host]

And then Jonathan.

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Hey.

[Flow Show Host]

And then Diddy didn't say, I mean Diddy said it was consensual. So it's like on top of everything else we heard. Okay, so we, we know did he get down and like we always say, hey, you get down, you get down. But right about it, that's what make it a big deal. So now we like whoa, what the hell.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Yeah. So living your truth.

[Flow Show Host]

Yeah, living your truth. So now we got the, the, the, the, the, the benefit of, of, of hindsight. Now it all makes sense, man.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Yeah.

[Flow Show Host]

Did he? That's how he got that 50 million dollar deal or whatever. Listen, as much as Diddy care about money and power and it's freaky and devilish and just, just don't give a, the way he is, you know how he is. You know for sure, you know for sure Diddy would have did whatever he needed to do and he already, you know, had that funny gene in him anyway. Yeah, he was down for whatever with Clive and now I'm looking at Clive and I'm like, he was Diddy. You know, they, they always infatuated with black man. Anyway, so here come this black man coming in here young and he was young. Diddy was young as hell. Clive had his way with Diddy, man.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

That, that, that, that's definitely that. That's. That put the nail in the coffin.

[Flow Show Host]

Oh, that's the nail in the coffin, man. That's the nail in the coffin. And then I don't know if this, if I'm reading too much into it, but they were saying that Diddy and Clive kind of got into it in the later years and like recently, and they were saying that to the point where Diddy threatened Clyde. Now, this is just a rumor, y'. All, this ain't no news article, this just rumors. But they said Diddy threatened to blackmail Clyde with some type of video, something like where they had a heated whatever going on. And then they say also that was another proponent of what got Diddy rated because they went in there to get those videotapes or get whatever Diddy had so he couldn't be blackmailing. Now, I'm telling you that because the fact that Diddy. Clive passed and we ain't heard nothing from Diddy, like, at all for as much as they was linked, even in a, let's say in an industry way, not in the shady way we talking about, but just in the industry. Everybody know Clive was like Diddy's mentor, you know what I'm saying?

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Yeah.

[Flow Show Host]

So it just. I was thinking like half, 50, 50 on Clive and Diddy having beef. And then. Oh, and then, so then they showed a. A clip where, when, when Diddy got convicted or whatever, they asked Clive about it and Clive kind of brushed it off and like, like, like, like how you would do if you don't really with the person, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, I was 50, 50, but now I'm starting to think it might be a little credence to it because Diddy ain't saying nothing. That's a big death for Diddy. Did not say none of that. And he been speaking from behind bars or through people or his children.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Especially if that's somebody who basically gave you the seed funding for your whole fucking label.

[Flow Show Host]

Yeah.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Like, even if y' all wasn't buddy. Buddy in the end, like, you like, yeah, my condolences go. Go out to the Davis family. This man gave me my start in the industry, you know, I appreciate what you did for me.

[Flow Show Host]

Yeah.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Rest in peace.

[Flow Show Host]

Yeah. And we didn't get none of that. That's why I'm like, hold up, it might be some. Something to that.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

What's going on, playboy?

[Flow Show Host]

What's going on? And Diddy, even though he behind bars, he looked for any chance that he can say something, know, popping to the public. Yeah, yeah. Whether he care what people think or not, like whether people gonna say shut up or whatever. He been talking. He ain't even acknowledging nobody in the whole bad boy. His family, his. Nothing something to that, bro.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

I'm just.

[Flow Show Host]

For Diddy not to say nothing.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

I'm just waiting on the documentary.

[Flow Show Host]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

You know, it's gonna. You know, it's gonna be one documentary.

[Flow Show Host]

Gonna be crazy.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Crazy. What? I don't care if they call it a biopic. Whatever they want to call. I want to see it. And then they better. They better put it. Put everything in that too.

[Flow Show Host]

Right, right, right.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Don't cut out nothing.

[Flow Show Host]

That's what I was thinking about. And think about how many people gonna come out or how many people should or could come out now that Clive gone. I just feel like it's a lot more information that's. That's. That's gonna come out now that he actually gone. Especially because people gonna want to get their story out and it's money to be made. But Clive, like I said now that I was hearing all that Clive and Diddy stuff back in the day, and I wasn't believing it now with all the way. Everything that played out, I believe a lot more of that now.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

That's. And that's wild too.

[Flow Show Host]

I believe a lot more of that now. So the. Did the Decline been a puppet master since the Phyllis Hyman days. I uncovered some of that stuff. I was deep diving on Clive.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Yeah. I said. I got. I heard a clip of her doing the interview, talking about how her. Her, him was at odds.

[Flow Show Host]

Oh, yeah, you saw that one?

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Yeah, on the Golden Era Story page

[Flow Show Host]

on who it was.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

It's this page I'll be following called Golden Era Stories.

[Flow Show Host]

Okay.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Maybe like covering. They had like little clips of interviews and stuff. Or like just little clips period of like, just music from. From the past. Like, past errors. They didn't. They go all the way back to like the 30s and the 20s, like, and then.

[Flow Show Host]

Oh, they go far, far. They go far.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

They even do like, they cover like sitcoms sometimes too. And it'd be like the people that was actually involved in it just giving a take or their perspective on what was going on. Like, just behind the scenes, like so, like. Like, just like how I be like. Like I was talking the other day. I'm like. I'm like, I wish I was a part like a fly on the wall on some George Clinton. Studio session.

[Flow Show Host]

Oh, man. Come on.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

And it. And just like, so when I be watching them type of interviews, it'd be giving me that kind of perspective. Like, okay, damn. Okay, this is what y' all was thinking when y' all did that. Because especially by me being an artist myself, so it. It kind of just correlate differently.

[Flow Show Host]

Yeah, no, that. No, that's. That is true. And they was talking about, like, I've been hearing and really paying attention. They was like, if you pay attention to Clive Davis, most of his black artists either died from a heart attack, drug overdose, or some. Or some freak ass car accident. Suicide or committed suicide. Like, and there's a lot of them. Like, why all his artists, you know what I'm saying, are connected to him. Have all these mysterious deaths. It's crazy. And it's like, it really seemed like Diddy took after Clive. Like, they both are two people who got a lot of mistake. Not like one or two, like five, six, seven mysterious deaths. That's. That people. That's connected to them. Like.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Yeah.

[Flow Show Host]

And it's just. It's. It. It.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

It.

[Flow Show Host]

It's crazy. I don't believe that. She would have said. I don't believe. And then they talked about when Wendy died, how at the. At the week of the Grammy. Matter of fact, let's go into that right quick. Since we talked.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

I heard about. I heard what the note said.

[Flow Show Host]

Oh, you heard?

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Yeah, you did?

[Flow Show Host]

Oh, you heard a rumor?

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

No, I heard the actual factual, man.

[Flow Show Host]

Oh, from. From where?

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

No, it said, you better lay low.

[Flow Show Host]

Yeah, I saw somebody said that in my comments. So what he's talking about is when Whitney Houston passed Brandy a note. Now, this was Clive Davis. This is Grammy week. This is the week. This was a week. The week that. That Whitney Houston was found. Unalive. But Whitney Houston. I'm gonna show the clip. But Whitney Houston crashes. Monica and Brandy's like, interview or whatever they were doing was Clive Davis in the middle. Whitney Houston comes crashing the interview with a head full of water. Her hair was wet, and it was very. It was very slick the way Whitney did it. And she. And it's like, she must have did it this way for a reason. I'm gonna show you the clip. But she goes in, she speaks to Brandi, Then she starts talking to Clive and Monica and why. And once she got Clive and Monica engaged in conversation, she then smoothly says, brandy, this is for you. Yeah, Brandy, the note. Brandy take the note, and eyes get big. And then it's like Clive trying to figure out what the Hell going on with the note. And to keep Clyde even more busy, Whitney Houston has her daughter Bobby. Christina, come give him a hug. She said come, come hug your uncle or come hug your godfather or something. So Whitney was like. It was very orchestrated. And you can tell and you can even tell in Whitney's talk. You could tell when somebody on something but they trying to be regular, you know what I'm saying? That go like the way she was. You could tell it was some going on. So I'm about to play this clip. We're gonna go dive into a little more y' all tell me what y' all noticed. She walked up, she hug. Look at that hot slick. She did though.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

This is for you.

[Flow Show Host]

Clive don't know what to do. So slick. Now Clive went on to have. She's to have the party anyway with. With Whitney Houston's dead body in the same hotel. You got to be a heartless

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

to

[Flow Show Host]

do that with Whitney Houston dead in the same hotel. You don't call it. You don't call the Grammy party off crazy. That's crazy.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

That just so like one of your. One of your biggest not. Yeah, like one of your biggest artists.

[Flow Show Host]

Yeah, one of your biggest artists. One of your. One of your biggest artists. And then it just show you. And then I'm gonna touch on what Sharon said. So but like I said in my video, it's other people outside of the main characters that everybody call out. People call out Ray J. People call out. You know, people want to know what the. What the note was Brandy. People want to know why Whitney's hair was wet. People were saying why did what Even Monica was like using the pool again. Like it just seemed weird. But it's like characters who not in the industry who not even like you would even think a part of culture who later on came out and exposed and they died is a guy by the name of Michael Cormier. I talked about it on my. On one of my posts yesterday. Michael Cormier was a person who worked for the LA corner's office. And the LA corner's office has already had like allegations of corruption and been investigated and all that. So they already got a shady background. Even going back to the Michael Jackson thing where people say the coroner, whatever. Even Kim Porter coroner. And it's like Clive and Diddy is almost like Clive Pat by them fooling around. And it's just my opinion, a lot of the same stuff that. That they saying Clive was caught up in and the way he moved is the same exact stuff that they saying About Diddy. If you think about Diddy with Kim Porter and hook up with the coroner and all that. Like it. It almost seemed like Clyde gave Diddy all his hookups.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Yeah.

[Flow Show Host]

I'm saying like those two, those two then they know some man like you talking about Fly on the Wall. I would love to been a fly on the wall with Clive and Diddy when they was just talking. I don't want to see that.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Yeah, I don't want to see that.

[Flow Show Host]

I want to hear them devising these.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

These little devious ass plans and then even like. Even on like a deeper level on the little conspiracy type, you know it is like what rumors were. They didn't say A lot of record labels we have an insurance policies on their artists. What if that was him? Just cash. Cash, you feel me?

[Flow Show Host]

Cashing out. Go into that. I gotta take this call real quick. Go into that, go into that though. See, because that's what I was gonna go to next.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Yeah. So yeah like I didn't heard things where they said just like basically like they assign you and then like they have like some type of insurance policy based on your artistry. So like even like with the. A lot of drill music they. They signing these young dudes and then letting them rap about all this mayhem and destruction and all this because they know what it's going to lead to. It's either going to lead to them going. Going to jail for football number and which is still going. Still going to tap into their pockets because they might have some type of investment in the prison system or they gonna die and they go cash in on the insurance policy which is however much they chose to insure for. So imagine what a Whitney Houston insurance policy look like or. Or a Michael Jackson insurance policy or something like that. You can just think about just like a regular civilian you that's. That's like a couple hundred thousand. Imagine it with theirs just based off of they. They were and like and they. They worth and they stature and status in society or just. Just the general public when you think about it in that. Yeah, no for sure. You know that's even like speaking. Just even speaking on insurance policies like it would. They say it was insurance. Like basically it was a. I forgot old boy name and they was just talking about him. I just seen a video talking about him a couple days ago because he got a damn insurance policy on the Capitol building in California. I mean. Yup. In la. But anyway he got. Had an insurance policy on the Twin Towers. And then next you know they. They get destroyed and they saying like that was like a cash grab for real and everything was orchestrated.

[Chorus/Background Vocalist]

Yeah.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

When you. Even when you like just think like, even if that like they saying that's conspiracy, but just like, what if that's how everybody. Not everybody just how those type of people are operating like in the background. And if they just. And they using like real people in real lives, it's just like, like. Like kind of like pawns on a chessboard. For real. That. That. That ain't. That ain't cool. Because it's like you, You. You and like people and they unsuspecting people, they got real pure like aspiration for whatever interaction and involvement that they got with you. And you just using that against them for you for your. For your gain. And they demise like that. That's not. That's not cool. Yeah, Enoch, that's what. That's what I'm saying. I think Whitney was too. And that. That's really why they. Everybody was like, oh yeah, he did a lot for people. I'm like, man, he. They. They said he may have gave a lot of people opportunity, but at what cost was that opportunity? Like, if it cost you your. Your life or your. Your sanity or. And everything like that, is that really worth it. To. To me, to me it is. It's not. Because especially when there's other ways to go. Go about. Especially if you did not entertain always the aspects that you. That you can. That you can achieve your. Your goal. Like, it's not. It's. It's more than one. Like they say, it's more than one way to skin the cat. Yeah, no, for sure he did.

[Flow Show Host]

He.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

He definitely did control them because you got to think of the type of the influence that they had on the people in general. So like, Whitney Houston was a huge star, so there's a lot of people that's probably hung on every single word that woman said. So what if she is going out going to. He like, all right, yeah, go ahead. Go out say this or when you do this interview, I need you to talk like this or whatever. It's certain people that like, it's out here that like, it's Michael Jackson impersonators and stuff like that. People that purposely try to talk like this, man.

[Flow Show Host]

And they.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

That's not. Isn't. That's not the only part. It's Elvis impersonator people that dress up and try to talk like that, man. So you so like, it's like dumb. Unfortunately. They're like, you. You really not supposed to like, idolize like people for real like that. I mean, I get like being, being like a fan of a person, but you're not really supposed to like take it to that level. But there's people that do take it to that level. And so you, you got to think about that and that type of influence. Yeah, grandma. Okay, I, I definitely agree. I definitely. And then it's like you gotta even think about the just over. Like the introduction of, of the whatever vice that that's causing it, that's causing the demise of that person too. And then like even like the company that they keep. Like you. Why nobody like really trying to push that, that, that help that health, that wellness on that person, right?

[Flow Show Host]

They pushing them drugs. That's how they control you.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Feel me. Like, you really gonna sit there and watch me swirl around the toilet bowl like that? That ain't cool.

[Flow Show Host]

And if you don't want to get down and do what they doing, doing, getting on that extra, then they, then they push you tied to the side. I noticed that from being in the industry. Like if you ain't, if you ain't a dope head or they ain't got nothing they can control you with, they actually scared of you. You know what I'm saying? That's why even though Phyllis Hyman was fooling around, but just the fact that she had her own mind and kind of was like a strong personality. Yeah, they say Clive Davis and I might have seen this on that page you talking about, because I saw it come up on my timeline. Yeah, I, I think that was the name of it. I think I saw that same interview and the same breakdown of the Phyllis Hyman where, where Clive Davis really used Whitney Houston to replace Phyllis Hyman and the kind of spit in her face, you know what I mean? Because. Because they used to get into it and Phyllis Hyman was a strong personality and then they pretty much, Clive Davis shelved her and push, push Whitney. That's kind of how Whitney, you know, got that whole backing. Yeah, because he was looking for, he was looking for somebody to replace Phyllis Hyman because he didn't, he didn't like. Because she would kiss his ass. But that's how the industry. That's how did he. That's how they are like, man, that's wild. Yeah, that's crazy. They like, they really. It's so different than the real work world. Like in the work world, they respect a strong personality and this and that, but in the industry where they just want to use and abuse, they will just really lean on those people who, who who, who, who, who, who, who take drugs and let drugs affect them, man. And so you think of all the stuff that, that, it's just funny. What's the odds that Clive Davis will have all these ties to these mysterious deaths and then Diddy will have the same type of ties to the in mysterious death? And then to come to find out we pretty much know they fooled around some way like, I don't care what nobody say. Knowing Clive and knowing Diddy, now, I know it happened. I don't care what nobody say. So it ain't no coincidence that you look at Clive Davis and you got Luther Van Draws. I heard him and like I heard he did weird to Luther Van Draws. You know what I'm saying now, now you got to look at everything deeper because. Clive Davis being bisexual and being a power freak, that, that just put the icing on the cake of everything everybody been saying. Why wouldn't he groom this person? Why wouldn't he use his people do anything to get in this industry, you know what I'm saying? So if you got somebody like Clive at the head of it, Clive ain't me or you. You know, I'm the type of person, me and Tuck got integrity. I could be the, the king ruler of the music industry or this or that. I ain't gonna use it to take advantage of men and women and do this and do, I ain't gonna never do that. That's not even in me. Everything gonna be on your talent and what we doing. That's why, that's why they would, they, they, they feared me and kind of just x me out of the industry once. It's like I didn't do nothing wrong, but I was too much of a strong standup guy who was not, who made it clear I'm here to make music and, and to further my career. I'm not here to do no weird shit. I'm not here to be partying and taking all kind of drugs, you know, I made that clear. And while I'm thinking at the time it was a good thing. And I was like, well, why? It was like the interest went from like this to the more I was standing on my business, it was like the interest went like that and I ain't understand it as a kid, as a youngin, I understand it now, you know what I'm saying? Because, you know, you figure out, you figure people respect a person with morals and integrity, but not in the industry. Yeah, they like, we don't leave that alone. He'd been untold on Everything. Because he ain't going for it. You know what I mean? Like I said, I didn't realize that. I was like I'm. I said everybody, I'm talented, I'm writing from all type of people. So I know that. And I'm like they super excited. But it was like the more like I wouldn't go to the weird parties. I would be recording, I'll be recording in the studio on regular business hours, you know what I'm saying? Like I was, I would be there late sometime, but it was all business to me. I'd be at the studio 10:00am, 11:00am, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, like regular. And the more like that I wouldn't go to the parties or the more I like would be like anytime it was even an inkling of some type of manipulation or grooming type going on, I would shut the down so crazy before you could even get going. It was like once the industry peaked that they was done with me. And I. Like I said as a kid, as a younger, I didn't understand now as looking back and as I had time to see how the whole ins and outs not at all makes sense. Of course they ain't want my ass around. Yeah, I was in that moment telling her, look, I ain't going. You feel me? I was like, it was. I wasn't meek or not. I was like very cool. But I made it clear I'm here for business for sure. Music business. I'm not here to devil worship. I'm not here to do nothing, none of that, you feel me? And I'm thinking that's a good thing. At the time, man, I was saying the wrong. Well, the wrong for them, right?

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

No, for sure.

[Flow Show Host]

But yeah, I was. When I was talking, they was like, I ain't know what. I ain't know why I had got the cold shoulder. Like that 100, she took 100, bro, I was killing everything. Everybody loved me and. But like I said, it's like every time, I remember it was an Interscope weird ass Interscope party. We went to the actual regular party. But then it was. And everybody was there. I'm talking about like Timberland and Dre and Gwen Stephan, like. And I'm walking around with everybody like it's just regular, you feel me? Like body walking, you know, like it's so much. It's all industry, so people ain't even bodyguarded up or nothing. You know what I'm saying? So I'm there. This is how in the loop I was then. It was like well we about to go to the private so and so so and so. And I just didn't like the vibe, you know what I'm saying? Like I knew it was about to be extra because I had heard about the private house part after these Jimmy Iovine ass, you know this was this, this was some other. You know when you see Gwen Stefani and then I'm talking about everybody in, in their costumes and Matt, like, Matt, what's some things that people wearing the masquerade, man. Yeah, that type I'm not going to know after party to this, man. Hell, every time I turned down like, like that the industry got colder and colder to me. I noticed.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

But that who the want to be in that type?

[Flow Show Host]

Desperate people who desperate for fame. See, I was never desperate for fame. See, I. I watch people who. Maybe a person wouldn't think they might do certain but you'd be surprised behind the scenes when people ain't looking. People who desperate to get in the industry, man, they'll do some. See, I was never desperate for fame. I'm gonna get fame or money or, or successful in my career because my music good or I'm not. But I'm not doing nothing extra. Nothing weird. It don't mean that much to me, you know what I'm saying? I'll be. I work at Walmart and be good, sell my soul and do weird strange things. It was strange things going on in the Floyd camp that I won't really speak on because I can't confirm it, confirm it. So I don't like to just throw out there, especially if it's coming from me. Like I was there. But just to be odd, just to be transparent, it was weird shit went on there that I just wouldn't be a part of. So I can't say what happened or what really was going on. But I could say it felt weird. And I never would even go when it was them times, you know what I'm saying? Like it was, it was times I'll be like thinking what is this doing? What are they doing in there at this time? And it's just, you know, like, you know how that's what I'm saying. Like I, I was never there to know. But it was weird enough for me to be like on my like not engaging in certain interactions during that time, man. And like I said, once they see you now I know that once they seen that in me, that's why they would. They got called on me. They was like man, leave flow alone. But that's why I feel like people who didn't get who. Who wasn't doing weird, like 50 or like jazzy Faye. Yeah, I feel like that's why I'm the. The industry people that I'm still got, like, cool with to this day or just got a good, you know, rapport with. If I see them, we cool. Because I think they respected me for not being. For not being one of them, you know, just thirsty for fame and just. Because, man, sea Tuck, I seen dudes go do some or. Or let weird happen because they thirsty to get on. No, no, nothing. Not nothing. I ain't no nothing slide.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

That's why I already knew. I already knew what it was when I. When I jumped. When I jumped out, like, to do music, like, professionally, I'm like, I know I ain't doing none of that extra. So I'm like, I know basically what. What circuit or what lane I'm gonna be in musically. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, let me just make the music that I made right for whoever won't want me to write for them and go gone from there, man.

[Flow Show Host]

That's for real. So, look, the irony of all this is, brother, first, before this, before I got signed with Floyd and doing all that with Interscope and all that, the first offer I had fell through. And it was a blessing in disguise. Guess who was behind my first deal offer? And it fell through because I think the person lost their deal. It was actually Jay Records, Clive Davis, but it was Brian Prescott, who is. Who was Jamie Foxx's manager forever. I don't know what he is. Like, he just recently. I don't know if he's still Jamie Foxx manager, but he was Jamie Foxx manager as of like, a year ago, all the way from the beginning. So that's Breon Prescott. I don't know if you ever heard his name. I got his number in my phone. Yeah, he, he, he. He like a. He like a. He been Jamie Foxx manager forever, but he been in the game. Like, you know, like, he wanted them people. Like, he was. Like. I said, he was right up on the cloud. I went to Brian Prescott. Brian Prescott. I went to J Records, I went to J Records, did, like, had my demo or whatever. They got my demo, then I came there. Brian Prescott, Love my stuff sent to Clive. Clive, love my stuff. Now, mind you, I didn't know nothing about Clive. Like, I know now I felt like I was. Yeah, man. So the only way it fell through. And that's why I said, God, is to just be knowing what he doing, man. Breon Prescott ended up leaving Jay Records like right around that same time. And so he went to. I don't know if he went to. I don't know where he went. He went wherever Jamie Foxx ended up being first signed at.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Okay.

[Flow Show Host]

And so. And Brian didn't want me to go straight through the Clive and all that. And I was pissed about it then show you how I could be dead now, you know what I'm saying?

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Like, ain't no telling.

[Flow Show Host]

I was young, black, swaggy, doing my thing. I don't know what Clive has seen talking about he liked my music, might not even listen to my music. His bisexual Diddy. But man, I could be dead, bro. Like for real. Like, I was young and like, not that I would have did any cr. Anything crazy, but I might have. They might have tried to force some on me, you know? You don't know. Like, I just love, man. Like that's why I always from. From all the stuff I've been through from back then. That's why I'll never. I got to the point where I learned you don't never question when something that you think supposed to happen happen and vice versa. Cause I'd have had time to look back and be like, God saved me so many times when I wanted. Like I wanted Clive Davis to sign me like crazy. You know what I'm saying? Like, I would have gave anything besides weird shit, but I would have did whatever I not knowing what I know now, I might not even fucking been here, man.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

You. You would have been trying to pass note to Brandi too.

[Flow Show Host]

Yeah, y' all have been on your own podcast. Like, remember that guy H Flow who passed the note? He dead. He. He. He died mysteriously. Yeah, man. That's why I said I dodged so many bullets that of things that I wanted badly for myself and it didn't happen. And then when I look back now

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

I'm like, you leave wiping the sweat. Like, woo.

[Flow Show Host]

I literally was in Clive Davis's office. I was in Clive Davis's office in J Records with Breon Prescott. Clive Davis just happened to be out of the office that. That day. And so Breon was there and did the meeting in his office. It was like, yeah, I'm gonna shoot this straight to Clyde. I'm so green. I didn't even know Clive was a white dude at that time. I thought Clive was a black dude. So I was excited, man. You don't know nothing. That's why you gotta just walk your path and let things go. How they supposed to go?

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

No, for sure. You think.

[Flow Show Host]

You know, you don't. Because I swear to getting signed by Clive at that moment was the best thing that was gonna ever happen to me. And I was all excited. Then I was all mad when it didn't work out. And God saved me. So, yeah, man, I. I've been in the, like, I've been in and around a lot of this. That's why I'll be having a lot of information and knowing a lot of. Having a lot of insight just from being in the, like in there. Like I said, bro, if you just like Phyllis Hyman, if you got a strong mind and whatever, even like how you are, you got to do it independent. Yeah, they ain't gonna. Dang, man, they do not like nobody with their own mind. They need people who. Who very. Who. Who not gullible, don't have no backbone, and don't really have much fam. That's what they like. Because I remember when. When I went to Vegas, even Floyd, because he, you know, them industry. Once they become industry, they all kind of got the same mentality. When I got signed with Floyd and our music deal with the Interscope and all that, when I moved out to Vegas, my whole family moved out to Vegas. And Floyd was like, why, yo? Why your family move out here? I'm like, cause I'm out here. Like, he wanted. He was against it. And I thought that was weird. I was like, why you care what my family moved you? But I. But. But even then I peeped. I said, oh, they don't like when you got back up or when you got people support. Because I seen how other artists on the label with Floyd got treated. But then I noticed those. I was the only artist that had family. The other artists was. Had no parents for real worth, like, either that was even around. No siblings, no, nobody. They kind of were just on their own. So they. Man, when you got somebody in a foreign city, you know, they might be from Detroit, but they living out in Vegas. They got no family.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Yeah.

[Flow Show Host]

Nowhere to go.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Prime target.

[Flow Show Host]

You ever heard the name? I'm gonna say a name. Y'. All. Y' all ever heard his name? Earl Hayes.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Earl Hayes. No.

[Flow Show Host]

Okay, so Earl Hayes was on Floyd's label the same time as me, right? Well, right before me, and then came back around when I was there. And so it was me and him. But me and him are Floyd Mayweather's, like, most known artist is if you was in from that era right now, Earl Hayes was the Complete opposite of me. Earl Hayes didn't have family. Earl Hayes didn't have support. And Earl Hayes was down to do just the weird, weird shit and just be in places I wasn't never down to be in. Right.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Yeah.

[Flow Show Host]

Giving you the mirror. And we both was in the same thing. Earl Hayes got his girl got wrapped up in between Floyd and Trey Songz. Some weird. I don't like I said I don't know what happened. I just know the rumors was something in between Earl Hayes girlfriend or wife or girlfriend. I don't know what, how, what they were. And then she was supposed to be messing with Trey Songz or Floyd. I don't know. Long story short, few years back, Earl Hayes ended up just show you how this industry can kill you. Now Earl Hayes was with Timberland, Dre, all type of shit. But he was on our label with Floyd. He ended up going to he FaceTime Floyd. Floyd was teasing him about Trey songs and his girl and all that. He FaceTimed Floyd. This was in Vegas or LA. I don't know if it was Vegas or LA. On FaceTime, Earl Hayes shot and killed his girl while she was in the tub and then shot himself while he was on FaceTime with Floyd.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Man.

[Flow Show Host]

What this dude like me and you rock, man. But if you ever get a chance, look up the story, bro. This was like Nash, wow. TMZ and everything this happened, man. I don't know if this was like 20001817 somewhere in there, but it's just an example of how this industry that could have been me.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Yeah.

[Flow Show Host]

Get caught up in and in it because they, they just, they will. They. The, the people up here, they just suck you dry if you let them.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Yeah.

[Flow Show Host]

Earl Hayes was a regular dude like me and you though. You know what I'm saying? Like outside of this industry. That's why me and him was cool. You know, I don't rock with everybody like me. And it was actually cool. I used to listen to his music. He would listen to my music. We would hang out a little bit here and there, you know, I mean like he was a cool dude, but he had no family support and he, and he was thirsty to be in the industry. So he would, he was that guy when you was in high school. He was the, he was the person who hung with the crew and didn't mind getting teased and, and, and, and, and talked about long as he was hanging with the crew, you know. You know that. Yeah, as long as he can hang with the crew that he think the crew respected in the crew like he should be. But he. And that's kind of how Earl Hayes was. You know what I'm saying? Like he wasn't on Floyd and them and Trey songs level per se. But he was happy to just hang where me. If I'm hanging with you, you're gonna treat me with respect. You know, you're not disrespecting my woman or, or flirting with my woman or doing none of that was crazy, right? And I know, see Tuck, you ain't going for that. Right? Was in that world where he was kind of letting that go and it drove him crazy. It was on tmz. And to this day we don't know the significance of why he did all that on FaceTime with Floyd and all. You know what I mean? Even Floyd didn't know he was about to do that. You know what I'm saying? Floyd was joking. And. And then man that Earl hey said well you think that some like do you think this you gonna. How funny this about to be?

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Yeah.

[Flow Show Host]

Shot up his girl while she was in the tub. She didn't even see it coming. And then on FaceTime with Floyd took his own life, bruh. That's what the industry and it. Me and him was. We was. We was in this on the same path, in the same label, in the same circumstances. And it just show you how the industry if you don't got the family backing, if you don't have the integrity and the in you where you just ain't going for none of that. It will. I saw it happen right next to me with Earl. Hey, regular dude, but got too caught up in that industry and. And man went out, you know. I mean that killed itself. So that Clive Davis, you know, not so. So I use that. Everybody don't know Earl Hayes. People in the. In the industry and in the. No, no. But everybody don't know him. But I use that story to just say and show how that can happen, you know, with a Whitney or with all these weird. These industry people, man, they are blood suckers, man. They blood suckers man. And they get a kick out of it for real. You know what I'm saying? Like the control and they. They hate a person who come. And that's why if you ever notice people who come with their own mind, most of the time you got to make it independent.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Yeah.

[Flow Show Host]

The most time they gotta go the long hard way. No Diddy. Most time they gotta go the long hard work route. The ones who hey, I'm just here for. And you can do anything to me, different ones, they blow up, but they're the ones that end up being suicide, mysterious death. You know what I'm saying? The ones where they just say, hey, just sign me and I just want to be famous and blow up and I'll do anything you add. You know them ones, a lot of times they're the ones that blow up fast. And then a lot of times they're the ones that be dead fast too, or just weird. It's just.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Man.

[Flow Show Host]

So Clive Davis and, and Diddy and that Whitney Houston thing. Before we get out of here, I got to tell you about Michael Cormier, because that's what I was saying before. Before we.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Yeah.

[Flow Show Host]

Got off. So. Michael Cormier, I had to tell y' all who he is. He worked for the. He's a white guy that worked for. This is concerning Whitney Houston death after the fact. He worked for the coroner's office. Now he got wind and found out that they lied about Whitney's autopsy or whatever, and he was about to expose it. He told he was about to go to the police when he found out the truth. Now this just a random white dude who. I don't even know if he was a big Whitney Houston fan. He might just heard about her and, and, and, and knew that. Hold on. You telling me this, this happened and they lied about this? I'm going to the police. Within weeks, he was found dead, poisoned from arsenic or something. It's just a random white dude who worked for the corner office with a mysterious death tied to it. And so when you see like that, that will really make you like. Nah. Something up. Would he get a mysterious death for after he said he was about to go to the police?

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

And

[Flow Show Host]

it's people who, when I dropped that, that, that, that video. Yeah, it's people that ain't that, that, that, that, that normally they, they, they would like it. They ain't touch that video. That's how I know, I know that. That, that video about Whitney. That's a, That's a real subject, huh?

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Real touchy stuff.

[Flow Show Host]

Yeah, that's a real touchy subject. People don't even want to think about it. Think about it. You don't hear much. Ain't nothing explained. They never said. They never said. Remember they. They claim she had drugs in her system. Now that's being debated. Some people say she didn't have no drugs. Some, Some people say they said they had drugs and they don't know if they lying about it, but if she did, and I don't know if Y' all can help in the chat or if you know. C. Tuck, did you know if it was ever confirmed from a reliable source that Whitney had drugs in her system when she passed?

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Not that I don't.

[Flow Show Host]

I don't recall anybody in the chat.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Yeah, I don't recall hearing that.

[Flow Show Host]

Do. Do anybody know if Whitney. If it was confirmed from a reliable source? Because I've heard both sides. I've heard people say that she had drugs in her system and that. That it was reported, but then I heard that the coroners was lying, so I don't know. But let's say the story that I heard is that she had drugs in her system. And that was the story for the longest that we've been heard. So if that's true, why. Why do we not ever know or no investigation of where she got the drugs from?

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Exactly.

[Flow Show Host]

I never heard of a story where Enoch said, I think so somebody said, I heard that she did. So the reason. So I say. It's weird to me that nobody. Nobody. Nobody investigated where she. Where she got drugs from. If somebody died. And, you know, they. You saying that they. They either. What did they say it was suicide? What was the lie? They said suicide? Or did they say

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

the heart attack?

[Flow Show Host]

Oh, they said when he was a heart attack.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

I think, if I remember correctly.

[Flow Show Host]

Okay, whatever it was. And if y' all can help us in the chat, because I. I'm losing my train of thought. Drowned in the bathtub with drugs on the counter. But did she. Did they say she drowned on her, like. Like accident? Are they trying to say it was an accidental drowning? She passed out? Because my point is this. Whatever it is, any other case I've ever heard of, they get into the bottom of where them drugs came from, and all of that. And all of that get exposed.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Balls. Yeah.

[Flow Show Host]

This one, not only did they. Did they not go after the drugs or go after the drug. Whoever gave her the drugs, but they. But they ruled. Whatever they ruled, they ruled it immediately. They didn't even, like, wait to get no facts of. Let's see what's in her system. Let's see that. They literally ruled it. Like,

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

They're trying to sweep it out on the rug. That was it.

[Flow Show Host]

Swept it under rug. And then no. Literally no investigation after that.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Yeah.

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That's another thing. If you remember, it was like, no invest. There's no investigation into what happened with Whitney. For real. We got care. Them hotels got cameras. We ain't seen a lick of footage of people going inside her room or her leave, like, no Footage. Think about that. They say her assistant left right when it happened and came back right after it happened. But we never seen no footage of that. Like, you know. You know how when they cover stories, we be seeing footage and when we don't see no footage, you know something. Yeah, footage.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Come on, now. They. They see me going to the ice machine.

[Flow Show Host]

We ain't seen no footage besides camera footage people had on their own to catch people outside by the ambulance or like that. But we got no real footage. Normally they would even just show Whitney in the hotel walking in and out or something. Even when they telling the story, we got no footage. That's how I know it's deeper, is something deep went on with that Whitney Houston thing and Clive and Diddy and Whitney and Luther and Phyllis Hyman and Angie Stone and all these weird deaths. And with C. Tuck bringing to light that the insurance policies. I'm believing all that now because I didn't believe a lot of that stuff.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

It's hard not to.

[Flow Show Host]

Yeah, it's hard not to believe that. Elise said, well, let me see. Fire Glory said Clive had his hands and that he paid the hotel people to delete the footage. That's what I'm saying. It had to be something like. Because how the. We ain't seen no footage. This is one of the biggest stars of all time, and we don't see no footage. No, no, no. No investigative report worth a. You know what I'm saying? All the Investigating is independent YouTubers and podcasters and people like us. But you ain't seen no real investigative. Deep dive into what happened with Whitney. Like, you ain't even seen it. And for somebody to be that big and not no, no, no coverage.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

You already don't make sense.

[Flow Show Host]

It don't make no sense. So, yeah, y', all, today we had to dive into the Clive Davis situation. We may never know what that note said with Brandy, but C. Tuck said it said, you better lay low. So according to C. Tuck, that's what he going with. But we may never know. Brandi said she ain't gonna never say it. And like I said in my video, that's another thing that. That shows that it was something to it, because why would Brandy say she would never. If it was, like, nothing. If it was something stupid or. Or nothing. Seemed like she would have either said what she said or just made up something like, oh, she just told me happy birthday or something. But for her to say she gonna take it to her grave and not say this or that lets, you know, like, it's something.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

Yeah, gotta be.

[Flow Show Host]

Just don't want to say what it is. But she don't want to probably say.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly C. Tuck)]

She might come out with it now another club go.

[Flow Show Host]

Yeah. Now that Clive going we might. She might get a bag to reveal that and put it in a book or something. But I don't know so we ever find out. Grandma Kathy said Clive called his cleanup crew. Fire Glory said okay at least said her heart was enlarged. They're saying that the cocaine gave her a heart attack. So there it is. So if they saying the cocaine gave her a heart attack, why are we not. Why was there no real investigation into where the cocaine came from? Why we ain't heard about that? Yeah, there it is. That's my point. Fire Glory said Angie Stowes unaliving was orchestrated and it came after she out of her record label. Suspicious. Yep, yep, yep. And let's get out of here. On this note, Brandy is a punk for not saying I used to like her. Now after that situation Sad. Yes, yes, yes. It's been crazy. But y', all, we will be back tomorrow. This was a good one. I I wanted to talk about this Clive Davis and this weird industry with y'. All. And other than that, man, y', all, we got to hear our favorite song by yours. Bye bye. By your main God, C. Tuck, get up and dance. Get out of here. Waking Bakers Breakfast crew, everybody

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