Karmelo Anthony, How A Track Meet Tragedy Turned Into A Racial Firestorm

Summary

The Flo Show, No Filter

Episode: "Karmelo Anthony, How A Track Meet Tragedy Turned Into A Racial Firestorm"

Date: June 12, 2026
Host: Flo
Co-Host: C. Tuck

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the tragic incident involving Carmelo Anthony at a Texas high school track meet, exploring how a personal altercation escalated into a wider conversation about race, media, and justice in America. Flo and C. Tuck dissect the facts, react in real time to explosive audio from Austin Metcalf's father, and challenge the narratives surrounding self-defense, youth conflict, and the persistent reality of racism. The episode aims for truth and honest expression, encouraging dialogue across all sides while not shying away from naming prejudice when they see it.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Setting the Stage: Donations, Roll Call, and the Tragedy [02:42–05:19]

• Flo mentions need for support from listeners and lays groundwork for the show’s topic—Carmelo Anthony’s case at the center of a local and national uproar.
• Early references to sexual harassment scandals within the prosecutor’s office, foreshadowing broader system critiques.

2. The Metcalf Audio – Racism Exposed [04:39–10:43]

• Flo plays and reacts to an inflammatory clip from Austin Metcalf’s father, filled with racist rhetoric (e.g., "you people…hang your hats on the stupidest shit," "watermelon felon"). (See Memorable Quotes below.)
• Flo breaks down how this exposes the undercurrents of racism in the case:
  • "You people. This dude is a top of the line racist." [06:04]
  • The rhetoric shifts the case from simply a youth altercation to a racially charged controversy.
  • Point raised: Public opinion, alongside facts, shapes justice in America.

3. Personal Reflection: Everyday Racism [10:43–19:00]

• Flo recounts being racially harassed by an older white woman while picking up his daughter, paralleling the Metcalf incident and highlighting pervasive racism:
  • "If you don't have to deal with driving down the street and being called n words...then sit this one out. Racism is alive in this country." [12:17]
• Emphasizes the constant gaslighting of Black experiences and the dangers of minimizing or denying modern racism.

4. The Actual Incident: Facts, Video, and Legal System Critique [25:26–33:07]

• Guest "T" provides a detailed account of the video evidence:
  • Carmelo Anthony is seen sitting quietly, is approached by a group, a scuffle ensues, and he is pulled, pushed, tries to escape, and ultimately flees after being attacked.
  • Questions why exculpatory video wasn’t used as evidence at trial; raises specter of inadequate (possibly compromised) defense counsel.
• Flo references similar miscarriages of justice he’s seen, especially in cases with racial dynamics — echoes from cases like the "Goon Squad" officers in Mississippi.

5. Focus on Accountability: Adults, Not Just Kids [38:11–50:17]

• Flo and C. Tuck repeatedly place responsibility on adults and flawed systems:
  • If Austin had been told to seek an adult rather than confront Carmelo, the tragedy could have been averted.
  • "Leave people alone, keep your hands to yourself, and don't try to be more than what you are." [38:11–47:45]
• Reiterates advice to youth: Don’t initiate or escalate confrontation; let authority figures handle conflicts.

6. Self-Defense Laws and Legal Inconsistencies [50:18–57:07]

• Discussion about self-defense standards:
  • If someone is retreating and still being attacked, they have the right to defend themselves—even lethally, especially when physically outmatched.
  • Black Americans receive longer sentences for the same crimes than whites; the sentencing disparity backed by the U.S. Sentencing Commission.

7. How Racism Emerges and Is Sustained [61:59–71:10]

• Both hosts stress that the main issue isn’t just overt racism, but the denial by society of its persistence.
• The necessity of discussing uncomfortable truths in order to progress: "Quit acting like this don't exist."
• Personal stories from both Flo and C. Tuck of being targeted by random, unprovoked racist acts.

8. Who Are We Blaming? Children vs. Adults and Systemic Issues [83:06–88:09]

• Both hosts clarify: They do not blame the children, but hold adults responsible for failing to provide proper guidance, and are critical of the culture and rhetoric espoused by Austin Metcalf’s father.
• "My anger...is with all the adults, man. I'm not judging these kids." [83:46–88:09]

9. Open Dialogue, Audience Reactions, and The Show’s Ethos [93:01–117:28]

• Hosts respond to live chat, clarifying their stance on fairness and their refusal to “save” anyone for reasons of race.
• Reiterate that they call out injustice regardless of race or status: everyone from Diddy to Trump to Obama gets equal scrutiny.
• Both express condolences to the Metcalf family, emphasizing the tragedy of losing two promising young men to senseless violence.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Racism in the Metcalf Family's Statements

• Austin Metcalf's Father [07:28]: “Let me make something racist up so y'all can go viral...I got a new name for Mellow. How about Watermelon Felon?”
• Flo [06:04]: “He said, you people. You people. This dude is a top of the line racist.”
• Austin Metcalf's Father [09:33]: “We had a civil war to free your ass. And now you won’t talk... You’re not oppressed. You’re entitled.”
• Flo [88:05]: “You talking about a watermelon felon. And we supposed to believe racist ain't in here somewhere?”

On Everyday Racism

• Flo [10:43]: “People who don't see the racism, if you don't experience it, you don't understand it.”
• Flo [12:17]: "If we saying it's racist going on, it's racist going on. And if you don't have to deal with it, just count your lucky stars. But don't try to put it down and act like ain't no racism going on."

On Legal System Injustice

• Flo [54:45]: “The United States Sentencing Commission has reported that black male offenders receive longer sentences on an average more than their white male counterparts...This is a fact. This ain’t opinions.”

On Adult Responsibility and Guidance

• Flo [38:11]: “If Austin would have never tried to kick him out...never talked to this guy, Austin would still be here living and breathing right now.”
• Flo [47:45]: “It wasn't Austin or any of those other kids’ job to tell Carmelo Anthony where he could sit...”

On Calling Out Injustice (Regardless of Race)

• Flo [93:01]: “If I felt like Carmelo Anthony murdered that kid and was on trash, we on his ass for sure. We call out David Diddy, anybody... We do it right down the middle... If it's wrong, it's wrong.”
• Flo [114:39]: “One thing about Flo, he gonna keep it real no matter what color you are…”

On Shared Tragedy and Condolences

• C. Tuck [83:06/115:45]: “My condolences to the Metcalf family. A life was lost. At the end of the day, my condolences go out to y'all.”

On Lessons and Final Thought

• Flo [105:22]: “These are athletes, students that’s actually handling their business. And we lost two kids who lost their lives as we knew it and as they know their life to be.”
• Flo [102:12]: “I was not looking at the incident as...racist white people trying to bully a black person. I just thought it was kids being kids, and it got out of control. Yeah, that's...how you looked at it?”
• Flo [122:05]: “We don't control the narrative on this show. Everybody welcome to say what the hell they got to say.”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [04:39] – First audio from Austin Metcalf's father is played, sparking episode’s focus on racial rhetoric.
• [10:43] – Flo’s personal story about recent racist harassment; parallels to the main topic.
• [25:26] – Introduction of video evidence on Carmelo Anthony’s encounter at track meet.
• [38:11] – The hosts lay out who is responsible for the escalation – the adults, not the kids.
• [54:45] – Flo cites U.S. Sentencing Commission data on racial disparities in sentencing.
• [83:06] – Hosts issue condolences and clarify focus on adult/systemic accountability.
• [93:01] – Flo and C. Tuck reiterate their show’s ethos of fairness, no matter the race.
• [117:28] – Hosts summarize their verdict on the case; difference between murder and manslaughter discussed.
• [122:05] – Closing remarks: show’s philosophy of open, honest discussion and equal scrutiny for all.

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Conclusion

This weighty episode lays bare the complex intersections between individual tragedy, youth violence, systemic racism, and legal injustice. Flo and C. Tuck use the Carmelo Anthony case to expose both overt and subtle forms of racism, question the fairness of our systems, and urge listeners to acknowledge hard truths while learning crucial lessons—especially about avoiding and de-escalating conflict, and the need for better adult leadership. Through candid, unscripted conversation, the Flo Show elevates the discussion beyond simple binaries or outrage, asking everyone to reflect, but not accept injustice—or hate—as inevitable.

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Transcript

[Flo]

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[C. Tuck]

Foreign.

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[Flo]

What's up, everybody? What is going on? Happy Friday. How was the week? Thank God, it's payday. I need some funds, y'. All. I need. I need some donations, y', all, for the weekend. I got something. I got something important I need to do. So I'm gonna throw. I'm throw the. Throw the link up there for everybody before we get into this show, see who want to support the Flow today. Copy link. And we're gonna do a roll call. We're gonna talk about this. Carmelo Anthony was invited. It's a lot going on, y'. All. They talking about sexual harassment they talking about sexual harassment going on in the DA's office and the prosecutor. Prosecutor office. Here it is, y'. All. Give me a donation. Your boy needs some funds this weekend. $1, $5, $10, $20. Whatever. Who gonn to donate to the flow show no filter. Just scratch on my face. Getting on my damn nerves. I did something stupid, but it's all good. Island girl. What's up, Elise? Enoch, D, Denise. What's up, Portia? I see you, Sharon. What's going on? Come on in, man. Before I even get into to what we talking about today, I gotta play this. Have y' all saw this? Have y' all saw this? From Austin Metcalf's father.

[Austin Metcalf's Father]

Drunk bitch. What'd you do to that boy to make him stab somebody? My God. What kind of mother are you? Hey. Kevin Hayes, you liar. Day after it happens. How many. How many lies did you sit and type up on your keyboard, you big keyboard warrior? You're a big, tough man. You still live in Baton Rouge? Remember you said you'd come to Frisco Brody? He's supposed to find me. I told you we could sit down and talk. That's all you do. Talk. Mr. Squeaky Clean. He's the only one in your family without a damn record. I guess that's something to brag about in your culture.

[Flo]

I guess that's something to brag about in your culture. He's the only one in without a record in our culture. I mean. And that's something to brag about in our culture. What the. Austin Metcalf. His father is. Is about to help Carmelo Anthony get. Get this appeal. Man. What the. And this gives me a peek into what type of did he teach his son. And I'm gonna let it keep playing, but I'm stopping it right there.

[Austin Metcalf's Father]

People. Hang your hat on the dumbest I've ever seen.

[Flo]

He said, you people. You people. This dude is a top of the line racist. You people. Hang your hats on the stupidest shit. What the. If this wasn't some racist shit. Now that the more. The more his father talks. They definitely aggressively harassed and attacked this black milk boy. I don't give a fuck what nobody say. Now you hearing this type of shit.

[C. Tuck]

What?

[Flo]

It's fine. And I just show you how these cases bring out racist shit. I just got racially attacked verbally on my way to pick up Clay. I' ma play a little bit of that video for you. Because once I brought my phone out, she shut the. She stopped saying so much. But you can still tell what's going on. These type of cases bring out the racist every time. Let's continue. And then I'm getting into the other part of it I've ever seen.

[Austin Metcalf's Father]

Let me. Let me make one up. Y' all can make. Let me make something racist up so y' all can go viral. I got a new name for Mellow. Okay. Because he was such as a little boy y' all were trying to portray. How about Watermelon Felon? How's that one strike you? So don't complain when doesn't go your way when you don't.

[Flo]

Watermelon Felon. Oh, Felicia. Let me let you know something though. Felicia you, you, you. Only information from the court transcripts are used in appeals, Felicia. Oh, sweet Felicia. Felicia. Now, you know public pressure and public opinion matters a lot. Even if they only use information from the court transcripts for appeals, y', all, we all know public pressure matters. If the whole world is trying to burn this down because of some, because of a injustice, they will change their approach accordingly. So we all know that, Felicia.

[Austin Metcalf's Father]

We.

[Flo]

We cover way too many cases, and we know what is said and done in the public matters a hell of a lot. And so what I'm saying is this father is going to make people say, you know what? Maybe some people that might have thought, maybe some people that might have thought this wasn't racist. Maybe, maybe they were on the fence. Maybe it's some people behind the scenes who thought maybe, maybe this wasn't racial. The father is showing you what he instilled in his son for the little amount of time he was around.

[Austin Metcalf's Father]

Yeah. So don't complain when shit doesn't go your way, when you don't do anything about it. Don't bitch because Trump's president, because you didn't vote. You're gonna support someone who does something against the law. You're encouraging and saying it's okay because he's a certain color. Oh, you've got more money than me. Oh, so you get more in privileges, more entitlement, because 400 years ago, someone actually sold you to us, and we took you over here and put you to work. And then we had a civil war to free your ass. And now you won't talk. Oh, I've been so oppressed, you couldn't even vote 1960. Look how far you've come. Look at all the free shit we give you. You're not oppressed. You're entitled. Kayla, you drunk.

[Flo]

This is the father of Austin Metcalf, Kayla, saying all type of racist. And see, this is that part. People who don't see the racism, if you don't experience it, you don't understand it. Now, I'm gonna give you a quick example. And this type, these type of stories bring the racist out in full force, riding down the street, picking up my daughter. I'm literally driving down the street, going, going to speed limit. This older white lady is giving me the hand signal to slow down, as if I'm speeding. And I'm not even speeding. I'm going 25, 27 miles per hour. She picks up a ball and gives me the finger and start yelling some. So I stop. Listen to this. What you say, what you say I give black people a bad name. I give black people a bad name. All right, kff7630. I got a mute. Oh yeah, you'll see. As long as I come back over here, I got your address. Okay. What'd you say? What'd you say? I give black people a bad name. I give black people a bad name. This. And I' ma call her A. Because I'm tired. I, I, I get sick of this, this racist and people being protected by the law. So I'm driving to pick up Clay from summer camp, which she enjoys very much. So, and, and, and, and, and all of a sudden I give black people a bad name. This immediately goes to just straight racism. So to y' all out there who don't understand what the going on with racism, open your fucking ear. Ain't nobody making this up. Like my father always wanted to say, don't nobody want to be talking about being mistreated just to talk about it. If, if we saying it's racist going on, it's racist going on. And if you don't have to be, if you don't have to deal with it, just count your lucky stars. But don't try to put it down and act like ain't no racism going on. I just experienced it. I just caught the video. She shut the hell up once I started recording. But you see what she was saying immediately, I didn't do to her. I'm driving down a side street headed to pick up Clay from summer camp and I gotta hear this talking about. She don't even know who she talking to. Talking about, you give black people a bad name. Why? For picking up a 10 year old from summer camp, I'm giving black people a bad name, Giving me the finger, yelling obscenities. Now if I would have got out my car and spit in her face, I would have been wrong. But what I'm tired of, I'm tired of the with their head in the sand that act like this don't exist. If you don't, if you don't have to deal with driving down the street and being called n words. Black people this, black people that for no reason. I don't know this lady, I didn't do wrong. I am literally driving down the street picking up Clay and then I got to be all kind of racist and black people a bad name and black this and black that. If you don't have to deal with that type of shit on the daily, then sit this one the out racism is alive in this country. And it's sad. And I'm tired of it. And I'm tired of the ones who sit around and act like it don't exist. Now you see this? Rest in peace to Austin Metcalf. Don't nobody deserve to lose no damn life. This ain't got nothing to do with the kids. From what I told you from the beginning, kids don't know. I didn't know. But these adults, you see where the problem coming from. You hear the type of stuff Austin father is saying. Like so you mean to tell me any is still some people out there that believe racism didn't play a role in this whole thing. Get the out of here. And I'm tired of it. And I can speak on it because I don't. I treat everybody right. I treat everybody equally. I cover black story, crime. I cover white crime. I hold blacks accountable. Whites, brown, yellow, everybody. My community is made up of everybody. Black, white, old, young man, women. We don't. We not prejudice against anybody. We don't discriminate against anybody. We don't do none of that. So I'm not going for it out of these racist like Austin Metcalf's father, like the lady who I saw on my way to pick up Clay from camp. And it just frustrates me that people believe that I didn't do anything to this lady. I am just literally driving down the street minding my business, seat belt on, going to speed limit, not, not a care in the world. And then I got this racist lady yelling and giving me the finger, doing so much. Now if I'd have got out my car and spit in her face and told her what I thought, then I would have been wrong. And then the police would have had me handcuffs and taking me to jail. But this lady gets to yell at all type of racial obscenities, give fingers, give me the finger and all type of stuff. And then you got stupid. That will be on social media and in the comments talking about you guys always use racism. Racism. It racism exists. Look at this. See what I'm saying? This is what I'm talking about. But this is what we deal with in this country now. I just told you, I just. I just played a video of a lady being racist. I'm just driving to pick up Clay from summer camp. And now this person talking about the only races are the black people supporting a murderer. I'm just glad don't nobody put their hands on me. That's what I'm glad about. I'm just glad though nobody don't nobody got the balls to put their hands on me. That. I'm just glad about that now, that that's the part that, that, that. That at the end of the day, I have to be grateful, and I'm grateful to those people that don't nobody lay a hand on me, period. They will get in their comments, they'll say this from a distance, but I guarantee this, don't nobody put their hands on me. I know that, and I'm happy about that. And it's a smart decision because it gets to the point where you get pissed off about this racist. I almost wish somebody would put their hands on me, give me a chance to defend myself so I can. So I can let out a little frustration because I don't do nothing but mind my business. I don't yell no racist to nobody. I don't talk to nobody. I don't put people down just to put them down. I don't have a racist bone in my body. We was raised around all kind of people. My grandmother had all kind of races that came to her house. White, Chinese, African, Indian. You never know who was over Granny's house. She had. It was a melting pot. So we didn't grow up being racist. We didn't grow up hating white people. We didn't grow up hating other races. We hung around all races. They were all welcome at Granny's house. So I don't know anything about treating people different because of the color of their skin, but it's sad that a lot more of us in this society don't operate like that. It's sad and it needs to be spoken. Elise says the World cup is a perfect example of how all different countries can come together and celebrate. Exactly. That's how my family. That's how we were raised. We were raised to all come together, whoever the hell you was, whether you was black, white, Chinese, Indian, Trinidadian, whatever. We had all kind of people that were welcome over to Granny's house. We ate together, we laughed together, we played together, we did all type of shit together. I feel bad for those who haven't experienced experience the same love, where they still got to run around and think because somebody black or somebody Hispanic or somebody this color, that color, they deserve to be treated differently. You suck if you think like that. Gerald said, I'll be in jail because I got a lot of animosity. I could not believe. I could not believe that. I'm driving down the street and I. And I got to go through all. Hear all these racist comments from this racist lady, out of nowhere. But like I told you, these cases, like the Carmela Anthony case, they bring out the racism everywhere. I'm glad I grew up like that. I'm glad I grew up understanding and appreciating diversity and glad I grew up with a grandmother who instilled that type of living in me. Even though. Exactly. But the thing is, now one thing about it, we did hold down our people. I definitely support my black people. I do anything I can to support my people at all costs. But I don't hold animosity or. Or prejudice or thoughts or racism against white and Hispanic and other races. Not at all. How the you gonna judge somebody for how they were born? We ain't control that. You wasn't born white cause you controlled it. I wasn't born black. Cause I. You can't. Nobody can control how what race you born and what you're born into. So to judge somebody for that is one of the stupidest things I've ever even heard. You didn't. You didn't. You didn't go to it. You didn't. You didn't put out on a piece of paper and tell God, hey, God, make me a black man, or, hey, God, make me a white man when I come into this world? No, we just born. And so for somebody to judge somebody over something that they didn't even choose, you got to be one of the stupidest I've ever heard. You thinking you better than somebody for something that was given to you by God. Not nothing you earned or nothing you did or nothing you accomplished. You were just born a certain way. And you think that entitles you for some reason. Grow up. Grow up. And it needs to be spoken.

[C. Tuck]

Hello, Anthony.

[Flo]

My name is T. More different facts are coming out. People were lying. Check this out. Now, I don't know. Tell me if you believe this or not, but so many inconsistencies with this Carmelo Anthony story is ridiculous.

[C. Tuck]

I'm sorry. Hello, Anthony.

[T]

My name is T. And when I went to see the video, they asked if you want to see it from either 2 minutes before the stabbing or 11 minutes before. So I chose 11 minutes from the moment she pressed play, Carmelo Anthony was already sitting up underneath that canopy. And he was sitting there for at least eight to nine and a half minutes. You see? Well, I saw a boy in a black hoodie go over to him first. And then they left out of the tent. And then you see coming across the field was another six boys. When they got to the bleachers, one he went out of frame and the other one sat at the bottom. But the remaining four, they went directly to Carmelo Anthony. And like he said before, it was a brief conversation. And then all you see is commotion. And we know from the interviews that Hunter did, we know that Hunter was in fact up underneath that tent. The next thing you see, I'm sorry, you can see Carmelo in the midst of them assaulting him. You can see Carmelo trying to back out, but he gets pushed, pull back, forward. The next thing you see is Carmelo, he comes shooting out the back, but he's still not standing. And he, he had to like kind of crab crawl backwards and he had to like jerk away from them because they still had a hold of his hoodie. He goes up a couple bleachers and he's looking around for, for which way to go. He runs diagonally down the bleachers. And then he falls. At the time of him falling, that's when I noticed another three boys coming down the bleachers chasing after him. But once Carmelo got up, he took off. You didn't see him for the rest of the video. At no point in that video do you see Hunter holding his brother. At no point in that video do you see those boys ever going back to the tent and sitting down. That was all a lie. And I also have questions. I don't know how the defense did not play that video, because when you see that video, it was self defense. Carmelo was only 5, 8, 130 something pounds. And Austin, Hunter Metcalf were 6 1, 220 something pounds. So for people to say that he should have used his hands, people can die from fights, from people using their hands. And that's all I'm going to say for right now. So. Hello, Anthony, my name is T.

[Flo]

What. Where is this video that she's talking about and why wasn't it played? But do y' all understand another thing? And that's why people gotta understand. I have a lot of experience with this, with courts and cases and how they go and, and, and little tricks that have been done and are constantly been being done to us, to victims. I was the first one. I was the first one to even come with the theory of the prosecutor. I mean, the defense was a hired defense, was working for the other team and was purposely put in place and tricked the family into having a defense attorney who was actually working and cool with the prosecution. Remember, I was the first one. Once the verdict came in and we start analyzing, remember I told you that, that I believe that because of other examples of when I was working with impacted families and I heard and saw situations where they were given a defense attorney who they thought was on their side and come and things weren't going right and the defense attorney wasn't handling business properly. Next thing we know, they come to find out that the defense team was working for the prosecution team. I saw that with my own eyes in the Damien Cameron case. I went to Mississippi and talked to these families. I've been holding press conferences and taking down racist cops who thought they was going to get away with it. The goon squad who, who graped and waterboarded and tortured black man for no reason until we held that press conference and called them out. They were getting away with that. And then the goon squad, it was maybe, I think it was like four of them police policemen who ended up getting about 50, 60 years, 100 years or something between them. The goon squad, if you heard about that case, your boy flow was a huge part of making that happen. So I have been in the trenches and being in the trenches, I saw impacted families given, being given a, a, a, a defense attorney who was working for the other team, which made me think that it was possible here. Well, ever since I brought that theory to play, have y' all noticed y' all seeing it being talked about over and over again from different people? Carmelo Anthony's father believes now that the defense attorney was, it was a setup. Other people speaking out, other attorneys are saying they believe that the defense attorney was actually working for the other team. It happens, y'. All. And like I told you before, if I wasn't, if I didn't take my ass down to Mississippi and hold press conferences to hold racist cops accountable and get their ass put in jail if I wasn't there doing that and, and kicking it with these impacted families, getting to know them, to know their story and helping them out. I wouldn't know if I wasn't doing all that. That is the only way I found out. So I'm saying to those that might think it sounds far fetched, it's not. And it's not hard to do, especially when you're dealing with a family who does not, doesn't know about the system and is not really familiar with court cases and, and doesn't have attorneys they can call. And then you got people like Austin's father saying all type of,

[Austin Metcalf's Father]

Drew Anthony, Kayla, you're cowards. You wouldn't even show up for your son's sentencing. Or Drew Anthony, Kayla, you're cowards. You wouldn't even show up for your son's sentencing or victim statement impacts you abandoned your kid. You left him there. I guess he's no more used to you because you can't get any more GoFundMe money or go send go money. You are grifters. You should be ashamed of yourself. You raise that child and I swear to God CPS to show them check on those other three that you still have. He never once admitted or took accountability. You tried to play victim. The real victim is the one who died, not the one who shoved a knife in his chest. I come to pray with you and show the world we can close the gap of this unbelievable racial divide. And what you do, you widen the gap even further. You hire a convicted baby shaking felon who's only in it for the money, who gives you bad advice, kicks me out of a press conference. Oh funny. I was somewhere I wasn't supposed to be but I left when asked. I didn't stab anyone. And then you proceeded to gas light me with your convicted felon quote advocate, Minister. Minister of what Minister? Irrelevant. Minister of. How about minister? Fuck you y' all think I'm saying? I'm no saint. I'm as human as you. I have emotions. Just because I'm a Christian doesn't mean I don't sin. Because I don't walk on water and I don't turn into wine and anybody else can step up. Don't become kicking rocks in my backyard. Look in your own the display of adults on the Internet. If your children saw how you acted, would you be proud? Or is that what you teach them? Do you teach them that racism is okay?

[Flo]

Who gonna be proud of how the he acted? This dude is one of the biggest hypocrites I ran across in a long time. Talking about he trying to bring the races together. Bring, bring, bring all the races together. How the you figure that? Talking about watermelon felon and you people this and you people that.

[Austin Metcalf's Father]

Do you teach them? Do you embrace? Do you program your kids?

[Flo]

What do you, what did you teach your kids? All this racism coming out your mouth. You're talking about what somebody else taught their. What did you teach your kids? This dude is racist as

[Austin Metcalf's Father]

to kill. From day one. I said this was never about race. Please don't make it about race and don't politicize it. And what didn't you do? You chose both. The race car black fatigue. It's real. I'm sorry. You have embarrassed your own culture and race. Don't get Me wrong. We got a lot of people embarrassing out of me too. But you guys, you got a patent on that. And the only people that's going to change it are you. Don't blame the white person because we

[Flo]

can't change it, but you're gonna blame

[Austin Metcalf's Father]

the white person for every thing else. We're the bad ones. We're the one that held you down. Guess what? You can do everything in America that I can do. Tell me one thing you can't do that I can't do. We all have equal rights. What's it say? All men are created equal. The first Amendment. Drew, Anthony, Kayla, you're cowards.

[Flo]

This dude is a piece of work, and he. But he definitely helps, you know, show you what type of race is out here and why Austin not here right now. See, what people don't realize is if Austin would have never tried to kick him out of. Out of the. The. The.

[C. Tuck]

The.

[Flo]

The. The tent or whatever, never talked to this guy, Austin would still be here living and breathing right now. And that's what I would be focusing on. If I was a father like I. That would drive me crazy. I teach my son to keep his hands to himself. If somebody need to be kicked out or something need to be going on. You need to be getting a faculty member. You a fucking kid. You don't have no control over who goes where. If you feel like somebody's not supposed to. Is not where they're supposed to be. You go get a faculty member, you go get a coach, you go get a teacher. You don't have no as a kid, you don't. Or a student. You don't have no control of where a need to be at. That is the let why his father on here spewing all this. That's what he should have been teaching him. Because if he taught him that, he still be here. Hey, Austin, if you're at an event and you see and you feel someone is not where they're supposed to be or if they're doing something wrong, go tell an authority, go tell a teacher, go tell a coach, go tell security. That's what they're there for. Because if you try to take it into your own hands, it can go bad. A simple lesson like that would have Austin still breathing earth air right now. But people don't want to acknowledge that. That is the. Leave people alone, keep your hands to yourself, and don't try to be more than what you are. Austin wasn't security. Austin wasn't the. The running the event. Austin had no power of where someone could be or could not be. When you do too much, you open that door. You open that door. Nobody want to acknowledge that though. Nobody want to say, you know what? If Austin would have never said to anybody, Austin and his brother, if they would have just continued to mind their own business, Austin would still be living. People want to make it out to be like, like, like, like, like Carmelo Anthony just went into the tent, spotted Austin, took a knife out and just went and stabbed him and stabbed him to death. That is how people are trying to act like it happened to make them feel better about what happened. That's not what happened. Austin initiated it. In the rest of the race. The, the, the, the, the racism that was going on initiated that whole encounter and it went bad. And when you a big, big dude and you in a sense harass and bully someone tiny, it can happen. I'm 6 2, 6 3, £235. If I'm harassing and bullying on a 5 7, 130 pound guy and I'm and I'm just harassing him and telling him where he need to go and doing and doing too much and all over him, it's a chance he might pull out a weapon on my ass. I'm big as. So guess what I do, I defend myself. But I don't go around bullying because they little. It's helped me get to the age, the old ass age I am right now. I don't go around just because I'm big as hell telling people what they can do and can't do because I'm. I understand people will defend themselves. People will be scared for their life. My brother's six not let me do a perfect example. I'm around six 3, 235 pounds. My brother is six 5, 290 pounds. So my brother six 5, 295, 290 pounds, something like that. I'm six 3, 235 pounds. Now. Me and him, me and my brother walk up on a 5857 guy at an event and start telling this. They gotta go get out and go here and we pressing up on him and we push him. If he got a weapon, do you think he gonna use it on my six'3,235 pound and my brother six five £290 and we all over him and he by himself. Don't you think he gonna use his weapon or risk me and my brother pounding the out of him? Like let's be honest, put yourself in those shoes. I would say why Are we even pressing this little guy? Why is it six three and six five. Damn near 300 pounds a piece. 250. 300 pounds a piece. 1. Why are we bothering somebody and telling them where they should go and where they need to go and where they should go? See, me and my brother would never. We would never bully my people like that. Because you put yourself in dangerous situations when you have people who are up against it outweighed too small. They have a decision. I have a weapon. Should I use my weapon to defend myself or should I wait and see what happened and I might be the one unalived. See, I can relate because I got a big me and my. Me and my brother big. But I guarantee this, we may defend ourselves. I'm not worried about nobody bothering us. But we don't go around putting our hands on people and telling them where they can go and where they can stand and where they need to be. Because you open up the door to bullshit happening. And that's what happened here. And that's why my fingers are pointing at the adults in the room, because they're the guidance. As you can see from Hunter's dad, there was no type of guidance around. This is how this happened. I don't know where the faculty was, I don't know where the coaches were. I don't know where anybody was for all this to happen. But out of a tragedy like this, I hope there's a valuable lesson learned to all the kids out there listening. Let me just say this to you all. I'm speaking to the kids right now. The adults are. Have been a big disappointment in this case as a whole. Kids don't go out of your way to harass or put your hands on anybody or feel the need to police anyone because you can lose your life over a random incident and it ain't worth it. If you see someone in your tent and it's. First of all, I wouldn't even bother anybody if they're in the tent trying to get out the rain. But I'm just saying, in, in, in, in, in, in. In. Overall, if you see something going on that you. That, that. That you don't think is right or you think needs to be. Needs to be dealt with, you don't deal with it. You get a teacher, you go find a coach, you go find security, you go find someone in charge to handle the situation. You see, I'm not coming on here talking racist. You see me? I'm coming on here giving good, valid advice to somebody so this doesn't Happen again. Because guess what? People are going to carry weapons for their protection. That's not going to stop. And you never know who has a weapon for their protection. So since you don't know that,

[C. Tuck]

you

[Flo]

don't go out your way to put yourself in harm's way by doing a job that's not your job. It wasn't Austin or any of those other kids job to tell Carmelo Anthony where he could sit and why and who, what when, where and why. It's not anybody's job. And that's why we're here. And so kids, I repeat, any kid listening to this or any parent, teach your kids to stay out of confrontation as much as possible if it's unavoidable. That's a whole nother story. But the confrontation that Austin Metcalf and his brother and. And whoever else was involved, that confrontation was initiated by them and could have easily been avoided. Why does nobody want to talk about that? You know why? Because they really don't give a. And they don't care if it happens again to another kid in another state, in another city, at another event. They just want to come on here and just be racist. I'm coming on here to give advice that will help save two lives. The person who did the. Did who, who, who, who committed the crime, as they call it now, and the person who went over there talking when they should have. Just mind their business and stay to yourself and you can stay alive. I want to see people stay alive. I want to see people avoid confrontation, not initiate it. And then, and now we all arguing about who's right, who's wrong, when simply you did something that you did that you didn't have the authority to do, and it cost you your life. And that is sad. But when you got a father who on here spitting racism all over the place, It's just. It is what it is,

[C. Tuck]

man.

[Flo]

You see in the chat, see, I told these out the racist, they just get an excuse to just be more racist.

[C. Tuck]

But, but like one, one thing, like just so even like what old girl was saying in the video footage, she's saying that it's. It's video footage of him trying to leave the tent. So anytime it's some type of conflict or something, that's init. Whoever initiated, once the other party tries to retreat, they. They are no longer deemed a threat.

[Flo]

Right?

[C. Tuck]

That's just. For instance, if me and you get into it right, right now, I mean, or we out somewhere, me and you get to it and then you, you pull a gun Out. And then I don't. I'm like, oh, man. Then I start running away, and you shoot me in my bike. You going to jail because you. It was no longer a threat for you to neutralize.

[Flo]

Right?

[C. Tuck]

So if I'm so. So if he trying to leave and you yanking him back like, no, that. That's crazy. That's the type that eliminate the castle doctor right here. Like, you can't shoot a. In your yard, but you. They. You. If you shoot them in your yard, they like, you better bring them in the house.

[Flo]

Right?

[C. Tuck]

Type.

[Flo]

Right?

[C. Tuck]

Like, no, like. Like, it's. It's just. It's like. And it's unfortunate that the life. That the consequence or whatever. Whatever happened, that that was the consequence of a life being lost. Like, it's definitely unfortunate that a child, a teenager's life was lost, most certainly, especially from an avoidable situation.

[Flo]

Bottom line. Bottom line, man. And like I said, I, I, I. And these type of stories bring the racism out. I'm. I'm riding down the street. I got a racist white white lady talking to me for completely no reason. I'm on my way. Picking up. I ain't thinking about nobody because she. It's. The racism is in the air right now. She wanted immediately go to black this, black that. You give black people a bad night for what? Picking up my daughter from camp?

[C. Tuck]

Yeah.

[Flo]

What are you. And, and it's the. The crazy part is. And anybody that's been experienced and can. Can understand. You see it all on their face. Even just what they say. It's all in a face. It's just like evil, bitter racism. It's like. It's like they look at you like this is an old white lady.

[C. Tuck]

You look at you like pure disgust.

[Flo]

Yeah. Like, I wish. Like, I can't believe you are free. You know what I mean? Like. Like they just piss because we are free as black people to do whatever we want to do.

[C. Tuck]

And then, like, even they. They talking about, like, the Constitution and everything like that. They talking about. He talking about all men are equal. I'm like, inside that same constitution and say, we is two thirds of a man. So how is that equal if you a whole person? And I'm too. And I'm labeled as two thirds.

[Flo]

Right, right, right. And if we are. If it. If. If it's all equal and everything fair and that. What he was talking about is what I'm saying quit is what frustrated me to quit acting like y' all don't know that it's racism out here. And it Affects us negatively. Like, what is so hard about admitting that?

[C. Tuck]

I mean, and then it's like it.

[Flo]

We.

[C. Tuck]

It's like even when like people do say something about it, everybody. It's not like we saying all other races are like, if you from another race, that everybody else is racist against black people. Or it ain't like no nobody trying to play the victim. But if you see, if you see the going on, like, we ain't like how we don't deserve the same justice as y' all do. Like y' all blowing up a whole city in Tulsa.

[Flo]

Yep.

[C. Tuck]

Come on.

[Flo]

Yeah.

[C. Tuck]

Eatonville, Florida type. All that type. Come on now. Like, yo, don't act like the ain't happened like churches and wasn't getting bombed and all type stuff like that. Like, this is not documented. Like you, you not about to act like it didn't happen. Like, okay, whatever was done is done, but you not just about to like not acknowledge the no. Like it didn't exist.

[Flo]

And let me give you. Let me give you this example. And if you want to donate to the show, I'm gonna put the link in the chat. Keep the live alive the flow show. No filter. But for example, the United States Sentencing Commission has reported that black male offenders receive longer sentences on an average more than their white male counterparts. This is a fact. This is saying that me being a black man doing the same exact crime as a white man, same scenario because I'm black, I'm going to get a longer sentence. This is a fact that is presented by the United States States Sentencing Commission. See, this ain't opinions. This is what we live with. I'm gonna say that again. Not we do not I do more crime. No if. If Sea Tuck do a crime, but if the if a white Sea Tuck do the exact same crime, C. Tuck is going to get more time. This is not flow saying it. This is not an opinion. This is not some radical made up. This is reported from the United States Sentencing Commission.

[C. Tuck]

It's just not even. Not even that anybody can pull data and compile compile it side by side and do. You can just do pick 10 random people and pick one crime and pick 10 random people who pick white and black and just match up their sentences and what they. If it's the exact same crime, match up what time they got and you. And that. That's. And that's the data that they basing it off of. It ain't like no. No black person started no rally.

[Flo]

Oh, y' all right. Real time proven.

[C. Tuck]

It's like no He. He hit the. He hit the liquor store. He got three years. Y' all told me I'm getting out in 10,

[Flo]

so that my only thing is quit acting like this. It's not. It's inequalities going on. We ain't crying about it. All I'm saying is what pissed me off is the people that act like it don't exist. Yeah, it is what it is. You know, like.

[C. Tuck]

Like, I don't even. Like, like a lot of times, like, I'm just really just approaching this from like a standpoint of logic getting, like, just emotions aside, because gonna do whatever they gonna do. You can't control what somebody gonna do. So, like, it is. Somebody gonna like it is what it is. But, like, you got like to just not. Not acknowledge the act. Like the ain't going try to be a part of the change and fixing the problem, right?

[Flo]

And when you say something like what I just said, they don't even have a response to that. Ain't no response to that. Like, ain't nothing to say. It is what it is. And. And we deal with it, and it is what it is. Like I said, we ain't complaining. We not doing none of that. Like, like, like, like. I'm just. It is what it is. Like, I'm taught whatever you got to deal with, you got to deal with. And so.

[C. Tuck]

Or just like another thing. Just so. The other day I seen this in the news where they was talking about Donald Trump was trying to get a bill in the. In a play to get the people that got arrested on January 6th. Reparations,

[Flo]

right?

[C. Tuck]

How the. They get reparations before we. It was like what the. Everybody gets some type of. Some type of. In the. In this country, but. But us, it ain't even like we asking for it, but it's like y' all just giving it to other. And we supposed to be equal one man type, right? All men are equal type.

[Flo]

Crazy man. Crazy, crazy, crazy. This. This case or they have filed appeal. They have filed an appeal, and we'll see how that go. But I. I ain't feeling too well. I don't know. The thing is, I wasn't feeling too good about the appeal anyway. But with the. With the Austin father coming out saying all this and with all the. The. The. The. The accusations and. And cases of the prosecution team, got the prosecutors and the D. A. Got all type of sexual harassment and. And. And sexual assault type going on. And. And it's just a lot, bro. Yeah, it's a lot going on. Like he might really get an appeal. I don't know what it seemed like this, it may get exposed, man. Because it's a lot of that's coming out that like the prosecutors and the D A. They like the D A. Got like cases against him or of being of sexually harassing other like people in the legal system and other employees. It's just crazy, man. Like I said, it's sad. It's something that's going on in this, in this world. You know, racism is alive. It's here. And, and, and it. And it ain't everybody. It's just a. It's just a. It's just that small pocket of people that's making the noise. It ain't everybody at all. It's a lot of cool white people, black people. It's like. It's a lot. Most of us, most of us are cool. It's that small pocket of racist who are trapped in the 1920s that's. That's making the noise. And they, they trolling in the chat. They do. They, they, they this when they come into their. You don't even hear from these until some racist happens. Then they all come out the woodwork for five to ten minutes as this case goes on just so they can spew their little 1940s racism that we all are way past. Like they don't understand how much of a time like you a time. You seem like a time traveler that is so hundred years ago, you actually look even spewing that old school ass racism. And I'm just here to address you bastards. We as a community. And when I say community, I'm talking about the flow show. No filter. The black, white, Hispanics, all of us in this melting pot of this show we've been past, we pass all that. Oh man, you don't even think it's. You open this chat and when I bring people up, I don't even know what nobody look you all, you're gonna see all kind of people in our mix because we don't be on this racist. I don't have nothing against no. No other man. Nobody, nobody.

[C. Tuck]

No other type of ethnic. Like the only way I have any type of ill will towards somebody is if you cause some type of to me directly. And that's whatever color you is.

[Flo]

Exactly.

[C. Tuck]

If you black and you do some to me, I'm on your ass.

[Flo]

On your ass. Exactly. Exactly. So it ain't about that. But like I said, you, you racist. I'm still stuck in the 1940s. I feel sorry for you. I'M sorry to let you know, it ain't 1940 no more. And we got rights. We got. We gonna speak. We got platforms and we gonna speak our mind. And y' all gonna be in the chat with y' all faceless ass profiles. Cause y' all cowards saying all type of stuff that you know you would never say to nobody's face, to my face, to see tuck space, none of that. But because we're in a time where there's a racial divide. Because there's a lot of people who feel like Carmelo Anthony was railroaded like me. And then there's a lot of people on the other side who, who, who feel like if justice was served. And in those two sides, we got a racial divide right now. So this is the time when the people who just sit back and being, and being racist and they don't say much, this is the time for them to shine and come out and talk and do their thing. They don't really have any other value. They don't bring any other value to society at all whatsoever. So since they don't bring any value and don't have any way of bringing value, they just sit around and wait for some type of racist to pop up like this. And then they can come out the woodwork and relive their 1940s and 1950s 30s dream of inequalities and, and, and, and, and, and white privilege and all the rest of it. It's sad, but like I said, catch up. This is 20, 26, them days over with. We still have racism because that's what this country. This is part of the foundation. So it ain't gonna never go nowhere as long as United States is United States. Sad to say, there is going to be a racial component in there. You know what I'm saying? That's not going to just go to zero. It's not going to go from what it is to just zero. As much as we want it to, as much as we believe and we try and we hope. It just seemed like it's something that we're going to have to deal with. But, Mike, I said the bottom line is quit acting like this don't exist. Like I said, when I'm riding down the street minding my business, going to pick up clay from summer camp, and I got an old white lady talking me, giving me the finger and saying black this and black this, and you get black people abandoning and just spewing that out of her mouth when I never. I'm like, carmel, it's another Example now, had I let her keep provoking me and I got out the car like I said, and it went left. Did everybody be mad at me and saying I shouldn't have did this and I shouldn't have did that. I didn't even acknowledge or even provoke this lady whatsoever. I am literally tunnel vision going to pick Clay up and that's all I'm thinking about. But because this lady's a racist, racist and she needs to get hurt. She needs to feel her 1920s vibe again. She feel like she can just say I'm black this, black that, give me the finger, go yourself and all this stuff. But then if something happened to her, because see, everybody ain't as mild mannered as me as far as can hold their composure. She might say, and this is the thing, she might say and do that same thing to somebody else and it might be a different outcome. And then everybody gonna be feeling bad for the lady and this and that. But not knowing this lady is going around provoking people left to right, eventually something gonna happen. Like they say, you keep campaigning, eventually you're gonna get elected. Yeah, I'm only using that example of that's how happened. See, that lady provoked me. Somebody who was not paying her any attention said all kind of things that could have got me riled up and it could have went left. But I just recorded her and minded my business and kept going. But see, everybody ain't gonna do that. What the next, the next person that she give the finger to and tell them to go theyself and they black this and black people this and black people that and you get black. What the next person gonna do with the next person after that? Eventually you gonna run into that person that ain't got that, that, that's. It ain't got time for that right then. And, and, and, and you gonna get what you looking for. And that is what I'm saying. Quit provoking and, and using your races against people, your racism, provoking people and leaving yourself vulnerable to getting up out of here. That's a perfect example. That shit just happened yesterday. I'm driving down, I'm not paying this lady no attention. I don't know this lady from a can of paint, but she went out her way to throw her racism at me. And guess what? She survived. Because I got bigger things to do. I got, I got things to live for. I got people to live for. But everybody don't feel like that.

[C. Tuck]

Yeah.

[Flo]

And so this lady gonna bark up, hopefully it don't happen. But she keep going Doing that, she gonna bark up the wrong tree, and that tree gonna fall on her, and then everybody gonna be, oh, what happened? But you don't know. This lady been doing this. We don't know how much these kids been kicking black kids out the tent. We don't know. I don't know if they have or have it. But I'm just saying, a lot of times it ain't the first time, man. That's. That's my only point. It ain't the first time. It's just sometimes it can turn deadly.

[C. Tuck]

Bottom line, that didn't. Haven't happened to me before.

[Flo]

What'd you say?

[C. Tuck]

I said that that happened to me before.

[Flo]

Before we get out here and tell your story. What happened?

[C. Tuck]

Like, it was a lady. She had. She was doing stuff. I was in the drive through, and then she had. She cut me off. It was like we was getting, like, up there off the front freeway, and I had. Was going to the drive through after that. Then I was seeing the line. I'm like, you know what? No, I'm like, but I'm stopped. She put up on the side of me and then, like, throw some in my car. Like. Like a note, talking about, yeah, yeah, you. You should drive better or something like that. I'm like, what the. I'm like, you throwing paper? What the Is wrong with you? And so I go to the grocery store or whatever, and then, like, it's the same day. I'm like, you know it. So I went and got some chicken from the grocery store. So I'm up there getting the chicken, and then I go down the line. I mean, go down one of the aisles. I see the lady. So I saw. I'm like, excuse me, ma'. Am. I'm like, look, you threw that note in my car. I'm like, nah. I'm like, I would be wrong if I would. I'll be wrong if I would have says, I'm gonna react it the way that. That you thought it was gonna be prompted. I'm like, or I'll be wrong to just hold you right here and make you call whatever man that lay claim of responsibility to you and me and him have a talk about it. I'm like, but we don't even need to go there. I'm like, man, please conduct yourself in a better. In a better manner. I'm like, if you had a bad day or if you're having a bad day, I'm. I'm sorry that you having a bad day. I apologize for that, but I'm not the one that pissed in your coffee. I'm like, but if you want to go to Starbucks and we can get you another cup and go find that, we can go do it. I'm like, but other than that, please don't. Don't approach. I'm like. Because this could have went a whole different way.

[Flo]

Yeah.

[C. Tuck]

And she. And she. Then she's like, you know, I'm. I'm sorry. All right. I'm like, I'm just saying, just please be careful. I'm like. Because you don't know who you're gonna come across.

[Flo]

Right?

[C. Tuck]

I'm like, the way I'm telling it, I'm talking to her exactly like that. Like what? No elevation in my voice. I did. I was irritated as. But I didn't show her that because at the end of the day, I'm a man and that's a woman, and I'm not about to aggressively approach her like that. So I'm. I just let her know that, hey, like, just. Just be cool. Like, you need to be cool.

[Flo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And. But see, that's another thing unprovoked. And that is what out of all this we need to be paying attention to. In this case, the story I just told. The story you just told. And. And for us, we weren't there. But from what could have happened, it could have went one way, it could have went the other way. I wasn't there, and we ain't seen no video. But what the theme is. All these unprovoked racist. And you looking at cases where. NC Tuck case. Everybody walked away. In my case, everybody walked away. But if you keep doing that, everybody ain't gonna be able to keep walking like it's. Something's going to happen. Leave alone, man. That's the. That. That. That's the entitlement that get killed. You where you didn't even have to. You ain't have to bother that boy wherever the. He was sitting at or wherever he was going or whatever he was doing.

[C. Tuck]

Yeah.

[Flo]

You don't realize. I bet you if Austin could take it, if he could go back in time, I bet you he wouldn't. I bet you he wouldn't say nothing to him. I bet you he would just mind his business and be happy. You just at school having fun at a track meet, have fun, talk to some girls, talk amongst each other. But when you. Because I. I've always felt that, though, even before this case and just in life, I've always felt when you do too much, you open yourself to. That's why I never even been that type. You know, like I said, me and my brother biggest, we don't go around bullying or, or just because we together we just intimidate because you. You think, you think it's sweet and then somebody got somebody might have an answer on them and now you're at your life done. It ain't that serious to me. See, yeah, I'm gonna defend myself every chance to get every chance I get. But I am not going to be the one to just be going telling where they can go and where like that lady throwing in your car. It's police out here. It's police out here who pay to keep up with the traffic. And guess what? If you ain't driving right, they give you a speed ticket. If you don't stop at a stop sign to give you a tick, it's people for that. But when you take it upon yourself that you want to put a note in c tuck car and tell him how to to drive and create conflict. Now you just opened up a door

[C. Tuck]

that could go anyway because that's what I'm saying. Like when I. Because once we. Once she cut me off and stuff and then I end up going around her and then I went about my way she could so she. And I'm up there going to a whole nother place and she made it her business to come find me and see like, see if you would have just went wherever the you was gonna go. Like which was the grocery store that I saw you at. I'm like, you should have just went on about your business and just left it alone like I did.

[Flo]

Mm. Exactly. Exactly. That is the. That's the theme, y'.

[Austin Metcalf's Father]

All.

[Flo]

That's the theme of what we talking about. If you want to support the show as we tackle these tough ass topics, click the link. I'm putting the link in the chat right now. Keep the live alive. We want to be back here next Monday. Monday, 8:30am you know, people don't. Hey look. Oh shoot. My bad. I see Fire Glory. Okay, Fire Glory, right on time. Let me put the link in the chat. Shout out to Fire Glory for the ten dollar. Holla Flo. Love you. Them haters love your truth but have to act like your truth is not true. Love them trolls. Have a happy Father's day. Thank you so much Fire Glory. And anybody else want to donate, you can do a super chat or you can go to the Buy me a coffee link. Go to Buy me a coffee link. You could do $1, $5, $10. You can drop a million dollars in there. Drop a hot m in there. But just go to the link support the show. We can see as we continue to attack, to copy, to to attack tackle these crazy ass stories and this, this, this Carmelo Anthony and I believe we just had the beginning of this because there's so much stuff coming out on that. You, you've been seeing it too. Yeah man. They talking about the D A. Somebody said the judge is a PDF. It is something else. It is something else. Like I said we live in a town. Hey look racism is here and we ain't blaming everybody in a lot of cool people. Most of us is cool.

[C. Tuck]

Yeah.

[Flo]

Talking about these racist and we all know who they are. They, they know who they are. We know who they are. We as soon as they type three, four words you know who the. You. Oh okay. You're a racist. You ain't here for understanding and, and trying to understand what we're going through and no, you just here to be a racist. And it's easy to spot them out and they are in the minority but they still need to be addressed and checked and, and, and put in their place.

[C. Tuck]

Yeah.

[Flo]

And that's another thing. This is another thing about a racist. Now, now, now, now. When we said all we say in sea tuck is what we. I feel this is a court system. This is why we have a freedom of choice and we are, we could be jurors and we can choose guilty or not guilty. Right?

[C. Tuck]

Yeah.

[Flo]

So I look at the facts of the case and I believe in my heart he was not guilty of murder or manslaughter. Stand your ground. It's in Texas. I've seen stories like this where a person did less and was ended up killed but because it was an altercation and stand your ground. We got to sit back and just take the murder on the chin. Right. All I'm saying is I believe he was innocent. Now racist can't even, I can't even have my opinion. I, I had to fly be behind a murderer because I just have a different opinion based on the facts.

[C. Tuck]

Yeah.

[Flo]

Now if you believe he guilty that's your thing. That's your, that's your business. I'm not about to sit up here and and dog your opinion because guess what. News flash. None of us was there.

[C. Tuck]

Yeah.

[Flo]

Ain't nobody. We don't even have a video that we have seen. So nobody can sit up here and act like they know exactly what the happened and what should have been the verdict. Nobody. We don't have no video that we have seen. We just judging. So that is another telltale sign of a racist. I can't even have my own opinion. And nobody knows what happened. We weren't there. Yeah. Based on what I see, I think he innocent. Based on what you see, you might think he guilty. That's it. But the racist act like, you can't even have an opinion and just totally act like they were there and be like, oh, you behind the murder. How the. You know, were you there? Were you under the tent? Were you at the track meet? No, but because it's a black man, it happened to a white man. He's just a murderer. And that's it. It's no other opinion, no nothing. I don't like it, man. None of us was there.

[C. Tuck]

Yeah.

[Flo]

I have a right to look at the facts of the case and say I believe he's innocent. That's not. You don't attack me. You can't attack me for that.

[C. Tuck]

And then they said multiple people was grabbing them. Like that sound like he's getting jumped. Yeah, like what the.

[Flo]

Multiple people grabbing.

[C. Tuck]

And if he. Then once he tried to. Once he was. They said he was out from underneath the tent and they grabbed his hoodie and yanked him back underneath it. Yeah, come on, bro. Like, I. I ain't understanding, man. Because if y' all would have just let him go, he would. He. And he ran down the steps.

[Flo]

Yeah, and he ran down the step. Like, it's a lot. And so even if you don't. Even if you believe you're guilty, you should. If you. If you. If you have an open mind and you ain't a racist, you could at least should have an open mind enough to say. It's enough. Little smoke there to say. It could have possibly been self defense. I mean, because like I said, they are acting like the races. I'm only talking about the racist. They are acting like Carmelo Anthony walked up in the tent, picked Austin out immediate stabbed him to death. That is how they taking it. This is how they acted. When we know that's not the case. If he planned it, what did he. Did he know. Did he just know when he went in the tent that Austin was gone, Austin, his compadres and his posse was gone, roll up on him and kick him out the tent? Did he know that? Did he go in there with a knife and say, okay, I got my knife. Now as soon as I go in this tent, Austin and his crew are gonna press me. And then I'm a stab Austin to death. That ain't what happened? He went in there getting out the

[C. Tuck]

rain

[Flo]

on his own, and then Austin and them start coming and telling, like, they own the tent. Like, they own the tent or own the track meet and caused all this. And then it went. Wow. Lives were lost. Austin lost his life, and as of right now, Carmelo lost his life. He was a 3.7 student, All Star sports track, football, captain of the team and all that. His parents and him wasn't planning for him to be spending his whole life in prison. I'm sure they was planning on. He was, of course, going to college, getting a good degree. Maybe he had dreams of playing pro if he didn't go pro, get a good job, because, like, live lost. Because a person can't say, you know what? First of all, let the be in the tent. But if he wasn't, ask a coach, ask a teacher, ask a security. But you know what? They didn't ask security. They didn't ask a coach. They didn't ask anybody because they know. They would have said, man, you can't tell nobody to get out of a tent. You know what I mean? They know. They want that. There was no. No coach or no. No teacher or no nothing was gonna come over there and do nothing. That's why they didn't ask. That's another reason, because they know what they was asking was some.

[C. Tuck]

Yeah. I mean, it's like, life and like. Like, bottom line. And even though whatever all this being said and everything like that, my. My condolences to the. Found. To the Metcalf family. Like, I. I'm. I'm sorry for y' all lost. Like. Like a life was lost. At the end of the day, my condolences go out to y' all family. I. I hope. I hope y', all, like, try to keep as much positivity as y' all as y' all can. Hold your head best as y' all can. And. And that's a tough loss for anybody.

[Austin Metcalf's Father]

Mm.

[Flo]

And that's how I look at it. And that's why I've been saying the whole time, my anger

[C. Tuck]

like, that it shouldn't even escalated that far in the first place.

[Flo]

No. And that.

[C. Tuck]

That's. That's where my disgust is. And then all this shouldn't even be happening when we talking about some kids.

[Flo]

Kids. That's what I said. They all kids to me. Kids do stupid things. I did stupid things. Your kids, all kids do stupid things. But it's the adults that are supposed to keep those stupid things from leading to murder and death and. And Stuff like that. Like I said, so. And when I'm saying adults, I'm talking about Metcalf's father, because he is exposing his ignorance. I'm talking about how whatever security measures or however they. Whatever they, Whatever they, Whatever they. Their security measures are at this gang, at these track meets, obviously they need a little more structure, a little more. What's the word? Not a little more like security. It should need to be more secure, more rules, more something to keep these kids from wanting to attack each other and. And police each other when they don't have no business with policing each other. These kids don't have no business policing each other. These kids supposed to be kids. They supposed to be living a fun life, enjoying life, enjoying track meets, enjoying basketball games, football games, and all of the above. And then as adults, we supposed to be doing what we can to teach them the right way and guide them the right way. And when I hear Austin Metcalf father talk, I say, damn, here go a big part of the problem right here. If that's your father, he 50, 60 years old, how old this dude is, if he talking like that, what type of advice and what type of knowledge did he pass on to his son? Because he talking, and it's embarrassing, all these little clips of him talking. It's just. He's saying one embarrassing thing after another, man. And like I said, that's why from the beginning, my gripe is with all the adults, man. I'm not judging these kids. I feel like Carmelo Anthony was innocent. But I also feel like Austin met Cab as a kid. And that's what kids do. They. They don't know what to do. All they know is what we teach them. And I wish somebody would have taught Austin to mind his business and let authorities handle and don't, don't do none of that. I wouldn't want my son, your son, anybody's child going out of their way trying to police some shit because anything can happen. And you opening up a door that didn't need to be open. Like, ain't nobody ask you. You not the security. You're not getting paid to make sure who is where they supposed to be. And because you did too much, now your ass not here no more. That. That ain't cool. Like I said, I. I don't blame the kids, they kids. But as you can see, these adults ain't adulting at all. And I don't know what it, what, what who else spoke out besides the father. But I would like to hear more from Austin's side because they exposed, like, they really showing a big part of how we got here. I'm like, damn, you talking about a watermelon felon.

[C. Tuck]

Yeah.

[Flo]

And we supposed to believe racist ain't in here somewhere? Watermelon felon. Crazy, man. What you say?

[C. Tuck]

That that's just gonna be just. I mean, then even. Even just, just even just playing. Just straddling, just being neutral with it. That could be just. He lost his son.

[Flo]

Yeah.

[C. Tuck]

Like, you don't like if you. If something happened like that, you don't give a like about nothing. For real. And so. So like, he. He on. He just really don't like, see that. That could be anybody. Something happened to that kid.

[Flo]

Like, he is.

[C. Tuck]

Like, it's even like. Like it's. It gives definitely what he said. But look at the reason behind he's saying it.

[Flo]

No, I think. But hey, look, one thing I can say though, out we follow these cases all the time.

[C. Tuck]

Yeah.

[Flo]

I just ain't seen nobody talk like that. I mean, I've seen plenty of people lose their feet and come out. I ain't that. That's just who he is, though. Like.

[C. Tuck]

Yeah.

[Flo]

You know how many people we see lose they son or daughter? How many black families and all they ain't coming out here talking about cracker this, cracker that.

[C. Tuck]

Yeah.

[Flo]

Come on.

[C. Tuck]

It ain't no angry.

[Flo]

That's what I'm saying is it's an individual.

[C. Tuck]

It's an individual for sure. That's what I'm saying. It's what he is, what he said. But then is also the reason behind he said, like, what he says expresses his character and who he is. But then there's all he got. He got an emotional drive behind it.

[Flo]

I wouldn't have knew he was that. Right. I didn't like, see me. I don't just put that on people. So I wouldn't even. Even this whole time, I wasn't looking at Austin and his family as racist. I mean, I know. I know racism exists, but I'm not gonna put that on nobody unless I got some type of proof or I seen it. So I wasn't even even looking at it like that. It's just that now after the fact, I'm like, damn. Well, maybe it was. It was a lot more racist than I even thought. Like I said, I was just thinking that looking at as. Honestly, I was looking at it as I've been in it as a kid. Yeah. When we just, you know, just talk about the other school or treat other people from other school, you know, Whatever. I. I've seen that. So I was more or less looking at it as kids doing too much. And then they tried to flex their muscle and tell Carmela to Carmel Anthony to do X, Y, and Z. He didn't do it. And it got out of control. I was. That's more or less how I was, like, looking at it. I wasn't really looking at it purely as racism could have been a component as far as. But that's what.

[C. Tuck]

But now that's how. That's how I looked at it.

[Flo]

Yeah. But now I'm surprised to hear the father say these things. You could be angry. You could be all of that. But the things he's saying, you people this and you people that. I'm like, damn. So.

[C. Tuck]

No, that's what I said.

[Flo]

What.

[C. Tuck]

What he says expresses his. You know, you. You see your true colors about people when happened.

[Flo]

Yeah, because I didn't. Like I said, I honestly was not looking at this as flat out. Austin and them is a bunch of races, and they just. I wasn't really looking at it like that. And so it's crazy. Like I said, with the father coming out saying this, I'm surprised. I was like, damn. So, okay, so maybe I was. I was like, little, like, not. Not realizing how much, you know, it is Texas. I don't know. You know, they. I. I've only been to Texas a few times, but they say Texas got. Got some serious racist going on. I've only been. I've been to Houston about two or three times, and that's about it. I don't think I've been. Oh, I've been to Austin, Texas, a few times. See, I've never had those experiences, so that's why I didn't know. But from what I'm hearing, Texas definitely got some going on. Well, you ever been to Texas, C. Tuck? Or do, you know, like, the vibe there?

[C. Tuck]

No, I ain't. I ain't been yet.

[Flo]

You never been Texas yet?

[C. Tuck]

No.

[Flo]

Yeah, a lot of people say I'm playing.

[C. Tuck]

No, I'm playing. I plan to go. I just ain't. Ain't stopped you. Every time I said I was gonna go there, I end up going somewhere else.

[Flo]

Right, right, right, right. All right, so let's see. Let's see. Now we're gonna answer these questions, y', all, since y' all ain't here. So you think. Was Carmelo looking for trouble or looking for. I don't think Carmelo was looking for. I'm being honest, y'.

[Austin Metcalf's Father]

All.

[Flo]

Listen, I don't have no reason to lie. I don't have no reason to make up one thing about me and C. Tuck. Black or white, we keep it real. Matter of fact, I don't know if y', all, it's a. It's a lot of people in here. I don't know if y' all tune in to the show, but a lot of time me and C. Tuck are calling out our own people.

[C. Tuck]

For sure. A lot of the been happening, the been black.

[Flo]

David.

[C. Tuck]

David, like all that other.

[Flo]

We don't. So if you coming in here thinking somebody just talking white people down, we don't care. We gonna keep it real. If I felt like Carmelo Anthony murdered that kid and was on trash, we

[C. Tuck]

on his ass about.

[Flo]

We on his ass for sure. I'm calling. We call out David Diddy, anybody, Jay Z if he do some shit. But guess what? We also won't call out Trump. We gonna call out Elon Musk, Epstein. Epstein. We do it right down the middle like 6:30. So my point is, if I felt that Carmelo Anthony was looking for trash or murdered this man or was aggressive or did anyone, we would be on here calling his ass out and calling the parents out and saying what happened. So I am honestly. This person said, so you think was Carmel looking for trouble? I honestly don't think he was looking for trouble or looking for a confrontation. I don't, I just don't. I think he was getting out of the rain. I think he had. And if you don't live in our community or understand, like I told C. Tuck, I think the other day I was saying, my cousins who grew up around a lot of racism and crime and, and bullying and this and that. My cousin carried a little, my cousins carried little bitty 3 inch pocket knives for protection. They never, never ever had to use it. That don't mean because they had it, they were looking. We, we went to Shaker things. We went to the. Shaker is a, a suburb in Cleveland. A high school. Shaker High School. I went to, I graduated from Shaker High School. But we went to events. My cousins had little pocket knives on them. They didn't kill nobody. They didn't even use them. But they had them on them just in case something happened and they wanted to protect themselves. They didn't put it. Have it. And then we go into the spot and they looking to see who they can stab. So I don't know if you was raised or been around that type of stuff. So you look at it as, oh, he had a knife. So he came for. No, all my cousins carried little pocket knives, little three inch knives. They didn't use them. Yeah, but if somebody would have came bullying them, thinking that they gonna bully a little kid, they might have got stabbed. But if you left them alone and mind your business and they mind their business, everybody goes home. And I only bring up that point for those that may not come from that environment that think because he had a little Boy Scout three inch knife, whatever, that he brought it there to kill somebody. No, he's a little 5, 830 pound dude who had it for protection. I'm. I guarantee that's not the first time he had that on him. So I'm just trying to enlighten those that might not, that may come from a different world, that don't understand why somebody would have something and think that in their mind. They think because they don't know anything about that type of stuff, they think he just, that day he had a knife, he brought the knife to there and he was looking to kill somebody. Not the case. Not the case. Like I said, I have plenty of cousins and friends who, when we went places, they had little pocket knives when we were younger and it was just for protection. They wasn't going in there looking to do anything to nobody. We ain't never killed nobody, we never stabbed nobody, but nobody bothered them. So just to put that out there, y', all, just because he had that don't mean he had it. And like I said, I'm gonna say it again. If me and C. Tuck thought he went there to kill that boy or he did some, or he was the initiator or he planned it or anything like that, that's what the we would be saying on the Flow show. No filter. Ain't nobody on here just going with criminals and going with the foulness of just cause somebody black or just because somebody this color or that color, if it's wrong, it's wrong. If it's right, it's right. And that's the foundation of this podcast.

[C. Tuck]

Or, or not even that. If y', all, if there is any evidence or proof that he did have intent to do it presented.

[Flo]

Yeah, I like that.

[C. Tuck]

Prove me wrong. And I stand corrected by the bottom line just present. We, we going based off of everything that's being presented. Because like you said, we wasn't there. No, a lot of y' all that's in the, in the chat, that wasn't even there. So unless y' all got, y' all ain't got to reveal the source just Present the evidence.

[Flo]

Austin had a life to live. He got stabbed. He was murdered. And you're blaming him? His color, his father ain't blaming. No, I'm blaming the parents who are around the whole situation. I'm blaming the father for spewing all type of racism that. That. That's making it look even worse. Like I said, there is. There is a pocket. A pocket of people who didn't even believe that racism was a major component in what happened. Racism was a major component in the trial to me, and it's proven again by the United States Sentencing Commission. Black people, black men will get longer time for the same crime. That's a fact. That's not an opinion. So racism in there. I for one, didn't think it was hella racism involved in the altercation, but now I'm rethinking that because of Austin father. The way he coming out all the. He's saying. I'm like, oh, no.

[C. Tuck]

For him. No. Just. And just being honest. We ain't think that it's like, no. What. Nobody thinking nothing about racism. Everybody just thought he had a up lawyer.

[Flo]

Exactly right.

[C. Tuck]

That's it. I say he needed better legal representation. And that. That. That's what. That's.

[Flo]

Everybody's saying that, like, everybody know that lawyer and what.

[C. Tuck]

And everybody was saying that until all these videos came up, right? Videos that propped up whatever recording device that they chose and press play and recorded the. And chose to post it on the platform on. They put these videos up

[Flo]

and then. And then it said. And you're blaming him. Step. I don't know if your ears. If you need to clean your ears out. I don't know if you came to the show late, but I've said a thousand times, I ain't blaming no kids. Kids are being kids. Did you hear me when I said that? I'm blaming the adults in this situation all across the board. I'm saying if. If. If Austin was guided in a way where he understood to go to faculty, to not police his own son. You a kid. Like I was taught kids stay in a kid place, he would still be here. Is that his fault? I'm not blaming him because he a kid. As a kid, you have to be guided and be taught things. Austin did what kids do, whatever their emotion, whatever their emotion takes them. He did that. But when your father talking the way his father is talking, he. He make. He making it look a lot more racist than I thought it ever was. Like I said, I was not looking at the incident as. Because I wasn't there. So I wasn't looking at it as racist white people trying to bully a black person. And he defended. I just thought it was kids being kids, and it got out of control. Yeah, that's what I. Ain't. That how you looked at. Yeah, I wasn't looking at it as, oh, these racist boys went up on car. I wasn't looking like that. I didn't even look at the story like that.

[C. Tuck]

That I thought. Like I said, he just. He just got jumped, and then that was it. And he got out of control, like you said.

[Flo]

Yeah, exactly. But now that I hear the father now I'm like, okay. Or maybe it's a. Maybe I was a little. I was sleeping on it a little bit. Are you gonna cut. Look at this. Hey, look. This story. But it's healthy. This is healthy debate, healthy discussion. Don't bother me. I like to know what's out there. But what does me call. This is. This is what I'm saying. Are you gonna call out Obama or come out? This is just. All right, I gotta. Why I gotta call out Obama and Kamala right now at this moment when we talking about these with kids? And why. I got. What's that?

[C. Tuck]

If they on some right now, hell, yeah, I will.

[Flo]

Yeah. So what. But what. What.

[C. Tuck]

Yeah, what are we gonna call out right now? Yeah, well, yeah, let us know what we got to talk about.

[Flo]

Yeah, what we gonna call. We over here talking about Carmelo Anthony, Austin Metcalf.

[C. Tuck]

But it might be something. This might be some breaking news, though. Fluff. It might. It might have just happened.

[Flo]

Yeah. Yeah, it might be. We call out everybody. I call King Mike world. I'll call your ass out. We call out everybody. So call it out. You don't get protected by. Cause you a certain color.

[C. Tuck]

Hell, no. We called out Michael Jordan for that nascar.

[Flo]

We told Michael Jordan he was tripping, tickling his butt. And we see. We keep it real. Y' all racing. Y'. All right. Y' all only see one side, but we got 450 shows behind us that you can look at and see, do we call it fair? Do we call out blacks and whites and Hispanics and Chinese? We call them all out. Even our heroes get called out. So you can't come on this show. Talk. It's the wrong show to come on here thinking somebody just saving somebody because they're a certain color and all that. We don't do that here. We keep it real. We keep it 100 with whatever's going on. You can't be like, I Tell people all the time, when it comes to my household, if you tampering with and got a problem with my household, I don't care if you what color you are, I'm on your ass. Black, white, red, or green. Like I said, in this instance, I just think he. I. I don't think he guilty of murder. I didn't see no violence in that guy's past. I didn't see any of that. To say that this dude is just a murderer. Somebody said, stephen says Carmelo. Carmelo. That is a good comment. Carmelo and Austin were smart kids. This wasn't worth it at all. That's my point.

[C. Tuck]

Yep.

[Flo]

That's my point. Stephen M. That is my point.

[C. Tuck]

Bottom line.

[Flo]

Bottom line. That is the whole point of this whole show about this whole incident, that these kids, these are athletes, students that's actually handling their business. And we lost two kids who were athletes and. And students and doing their thing. We lost two kids who lost their lives as we knew it and as they know their life to be.

[C. Tuck]

And

[Flo]

it shouldn't have happened and it could have been avoided and it wasn't. And that is the sad case. Talking about a murder this and a murder that and erase that. That ain't the point. The point is right here. And that's all I've been trying to say this whole show. And that's. And until we look at it like that, we're not gonna. We're not gonna progress as a society, man. So we look at it as both sides lost here. And so I'm glad for that comment. Stephen. Stephen, whoever said that. Shout out to that. Shout out to you for that comment. Because that is really kind of what sums up. Been trying to say this whole show. Quit blaming these kid. These kids are kids. But it's the adults that I'm that I'm pissed off at in this situation. All across the board, People should have just walked away. Somebody said, strange. Yep.

[C. Tuck]

So strange.

[Flo]

Enoch says the judge d. A and father were friends.

[C. Tuck]

We did on what's like. They say he said, call out the black leaders who didn't show up until it was over. We did a couple.

[Flo]

We did that. That's the thing about it. We keep it so real.

[C. Tuck]

That's one thing we said. Then we found out Cardi B. Has said some.

[Flo]

Where's that coming at? Oh, call out. So called. Oh, I definitely. We did that then. See, that's the thing.

[C. Tuck]

Yeah.

[Flo]

Thank you for tuning. If you want to tune into a show that's going to keep it real from all Sides, all races. You tuned into the right one. Because if you, if, if King Mike's World, if you would have been tuned into this show yesterday. Was that yesterday?

[C. Tuck]

Ctu either yesterday or day before or day before.

[Flo]

Or it might have been both days, because we talked about that a couple times. But whether it was yesterday or the day before, we called out the black leaders, the black celebrities who didn't show up until it was over. And we still calling them out because he took. Said, hey, I'm giving y' all this week. If y' all hadn't came, y' all should be saying something now or speaking out or doing something. But see, that's the thing about when you got a show and you're not on here, just calling out one side or the other. See, when people make comments like this, you are. We already covered. Because we do that. We don't look at one. I' ma say it again. We don't look at one. Cut somebody. But I gotta look at for what it is. If it's right, it's right. If it's wrong, it's wrong. I don't look at it and say, okay, because that's. A black person did that. That's right. A white person did this. That's wrong. I don't look at that.

[C. Tuck]

She is Steph, my brother in law of white. Where you see Stephen said, do you got. Do you have close friends that you hang out with or attend family that are white? Yeah, my baby sister, my. Her husband is white. Yeah. I have no problem. I have. I've never had a problem with a white people unless they try to cause me some type of harm. But that's anybody of any color.

[Flo]

Right. My great grandfather white. I'm named after him. My white great grandfather name is Harold. That's why the. I got the name Harold. I don't have no problem with white people.

[C. Tuck]

Yeah.

[Flo]

I have a problem with racist people

[C. Tuck]

and then people in general. Whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever.

[Flo]

If you want something, you file.

[C. Tuck]

Yeah, that's what I got a problem with.

[Flo]

I went to Shaker half when. When I went there. Shaker and got ghetto now. But when I was in Shaker back in the 90s, it was half white, half black. It was. It's diverse. Diversity. I've been around diverse. A diverse culture. I played basketball, but I also went to college and played golf, collegiate golf. I was on the. On courses with white people and kick. Like I don't. I. My life has been well rounded and I'm glad. I'm happy about that. Like, I'M glad I. I grew up like that. I'm glad my granny had every race over at the house. And we grew up. So we didn't grow up hating white people or hating this now. We grew up knowing that, you know, to. To look out. You know, to look out and support our people. But we didn't grow up to just, hey, we grew up to judge you for how you treat us or what you do. We didn't grow up like, oh, this person white. So I gotta hate this person or this person. We didn't grow up like that. Hell no, we didn't grow up like that. We grew a lot. We have. My granny had white people over the house all the time.

[C. Tuck]

Treat others how you want to be treated.

[Flo]

Yeah, I remember a guy named Red. He was a white dude. Guy named Red. He had a black wife. He always came over to granny house. Red was one of the coolest people you could ever meet. His white ass would be in back there. Fuzzy and Red. Her name was Fuzzy. She was black, he was white. Fuzzy and Red would sit back there with my granny and my grandfather on that patio all day long every day for years, and it never came up. We didn't even talk about that Red was white. It never even was a. A red.

[C. Tuck]

Just red.

[Flo]

It wasn't even. We don't.

[C. Tuck]

Red, just red.

[Flo]

Yeah, Red was just Red. He was funny. We laugh. He went on family trips with us. We go on family reunion. We got white people there, but even though it's a black family, we got all. We got Trinidadians, we got everybody there. So that's why I don't have a problem with. With, like, I'm not. I don't have a problem with white people. I don't have that thing. I just like. Like C. Tuck said, if you file, you file.

[C. Tuck]

If you good people. You good people.

[Flo]

Good people. You good people. I can't put a color on it. Some. Some. Some of my. Some people who have helped me.

[C. Tuck]

I told you, when I was out, out in Tennessee, the one dude I met, the one dude, Morgan from South Carolina, he was white. Random white dude, just seen me smoking in the park, like, hey, bro, can I hit, man? Come on. And we just out there smoking in the parking lot, chopping it.

[Flo]

Yeah. Nah, that's what I say. So that's. But. And that's why me and C. Tuck have a show where it's blacks, whites, Asians, Hispanics, everybody welcome. Because they. They. If you tune into this show on the daily.

[C. Tuck]

You don't.

[Flo]

You do not get the Feeling like, oh, these. These two boy brothers hate white people this or they that. As a matter of fact, I catch more heat for calling out people.

[C. Tuck]

You just trying to tell her. Trying to tell the black man.

[Flo]

I'm trying to tear the black man. I catch heat because we so honest and fair people. Black people don't like me calling out Diddy. They don't like us calling out David. David Shannon Sharp, man. It's a story going on and we reporting it. But like I said, I don't do it. I don't. I don't do this to have no bias against nobody, man. Me, we do this. That's why it's called the Flow show. No filter. We do this with no filter. I know it's gonna be some blacks mad at me when. When I call out Diddy. I know it's gonna be some MAGA and Republicans mad at me when I call out Trump. I know it's going to be some. Some certain ethnic background people mad at me when I say certain things. But my. My thing is, I just want the people who tune in to know that one thing about Flo, he keep it honest across the board. That's all I care about. I don't care about who gets mad at me for calling out certain people. I don't care that blacks get mad because I call out Diddy and whites or Republicans get mad when I call out Trump. I don't care. I care that when I am calling people out, the people who tune into this show know that one thing about Flo, he gonna keep it real no matter what color you are, for sure.

[C. Tuck]

Only thing we know how to do.

[Flo]

The only thing we know how to do. So the blade. The blade was 2 inches long. Stop it. I don't get what's. What are you trying to say?

[C. Tuck]

Talking about the. The knife he had.

[Flo]

Yeah. So I'm saying The blade was 2 inches long. They saying it's 2. 2 inches long. Stop it. Meaning what? Meaning what? Oh, I don't understand it. All right, well, the blade was 2 inches long. Stop it. I'm gonna just read that comment before we get out of here. I' ma see Cardi B says she'll give 5 million to Carmelo appeal. Damn, man. Cardi B coming with 5 million. Charleston White came with 75, 000. Damn. CARDI B bossed up, okay? We said, rest in peace, Austin. And plenty of times somebody said, everybody want to talk about how wrongful Carmelo was treated. How about Austin? He is in the ground. What about him? I don't know how many times we said, rest in peace. What did you say? You. You stopped and made a whole. Make the statement one more time.

[C. Tuck]

Yeah. Once again, I want to extend my condolences to the entire Metcalf family. I'm sorry for y' all lost. I hope y' all stay in the realm of positivity and keep your head high and y' all faith as best as y' all can. And it's in this terrible situation for y'. All.

[Flo]

Let's see, somebody gonna again say, do you think. Let's see. Do you have to look at the picture? Report says 2 inches. First you deflect the kind of. Then try to take accountability saying, no leaders. The Drill rappers have become these kids mentors. I heard a black I had seen somebody other day said they hate. It was a black dude who used to be a manager. He used to manage a lot of Drill artists. He said he hate Drill See Tuck. He said he won't sign another Drill artist. He said he wished that music would just. You listen to Drill.

[C. Tuck]

Nah.

[Flo]

Okay,

[C. Tuck]

That's.

[Flo]

That. That.

[C. Tuck]

That's a recipe for disaster.

[Flo]

Steph said, okay. At least you fair on that, man. I'm fair on it all. You can't be mad at me because I got a difference of opinion. For me, having a difference of opinion don't mean I'm not fair. That's what the. I think. Like, I'm looking at it as a court case, as I look at all the court cases, and I don't think he was guilty of murder. I don't know what. What. What's so hard to understand about that? If you think differently, you just think differently. But I don't think so. And if, like, I called out anybody else, if I thought it was murder, I would be saying it. I was saying, man, he's.

[C. Tuck]

He.

[Flo]

He. He. That was murder. He premeditated or he. He didn't have to or whatever. Whatever the law said. That's what this show is built on. We don't. Black or white, we're gonna say what we feel based off the evidence or based on what's going on. And in this case, like I said, I just. I really just don't think he was guilty of murder. I don't. So other than that, let me see if we got any. Gt say manslaughter, not murder. Somebody said, color me Cardi. Color me career said all white jury is crazy, Frisco ass, racist ass people. Yeah. All right, so on that note, let's see. I think we're Gonna go ahead and slide up out of here. We went a little extra long.

[C. Tuck]

Okay, got a special broadcast today.

[Flo]

Yeah, we got a special broadcast. This was a two hour special Friday. Everybody. Sabrina 7 says, has everybody been, been, been, been, been bullied? Blake, Blake Alexander says, same to you, Nicole, all love. And Gerald says, go Spurs. Okay, y'. All. So let's go on and get out of here. I appreciate everybody tune in to the show. Like I said, if you want to see the hard issues being attacked by people who, two people who actually keep it fair and actually call out, who need to be called out no matter what color they are. You tune into the right show, you're a racist, you might get offended because we don't. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't tolerate it. I don't like it at all. And. And I ain't gonna never like it. Other than that. C Tech, what's your final note on this special, special two hour episode?

[C. Tuck]

Man, everybody have a safe and wonderful weekend. We're gonna see how this. Oh, I want to see how my theory playing out.

[Flo]

What?

[C. Tuck]

Oh, about the final. Right, so it can kid. No, that's on. That's tomorrow.

[Flo]

Oh, they play tomorrow.

[C. Tuck]

Yeah, I want to see. So Jerry. I know it's ghost spurs for sure, Gerald, but I want my thing to be right. If it in my little theory right, then Nick's winning on Saturday.

[Flo]

Nick's winning on Saturday. Let's see. Get up and dance, y'. All. Every Monday through Friday, 8:30am Eastern Standard Time is the flow show no filter. You can also catch the audio version on Apple and Spotify 24. 7.

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[T]

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[Flo]

Appreciate everybody tuning in today. Like I said, Steph, Steph said thank you for the discussion. Thank you for letting folks say their peace. Exactly. Swan. We don't control the narrative on this show.

[C. Tuck]

Not at all.

[Flo]

Everybody welcome to say what the hell they got to say. I got an opinion. Y' all got opinions. He took got an opinion and we just take it from there. So I appreciate everybody from both sides of the fence. Whether you think the the verdict, if you think the verdict was right, thank you for tuning in. If you think the verdict was wrong, thank you for tuning in. Like I said, at the end of the day, well, none of us there we are just giving our opinion. And at the end of the day we got to realize they are opinions. What about you?

[C. Tuck]

C tuck the opinions and today until they make to the evidence, making facts.

[Flo]

There you go. So as always, we love y'.

[T]

All.

[Flo]

Two hours with y', all. It went pretty fast. I ain't gonna lie. It's pretty fast.

[C. Tuck]

For sure.

[Flo]

We love y'.

[C. Tuck]

All.

[Flo]

See y' all Monday at 8:30am we can talk some more. But we love y'.

[C. Tuck]

All.

[Flo]

But we are oh. The next podcast is Monday at 8:30am we every day Monday through Friday, 8:30am Eastern Standard Time for the live show. But it's also where the show started is on Apple and Spotify. So the audio version is always on Apple and Spotify. I upload it after the show. So for those who don't know, thank you for tuning in. We love y', all, but we are out.