Podcast Summary: The Game with Alex Hormozi, Ep 978 – If You’re Ambitious But Inconsistent, Please Listen to This
Date: December 16, 2025
Host: Alex Hormozi
Episode Overview
In this episode, Alex Hormozi directly addresses ambitious individuals struggling with inconsistency, particularly drawing on an encounter with a young man who quit a successful sales job in pursuit of "passion." Hormozi unpacks the realities behind the popular advice to "follow your passion," using his own journey from management consulting to building and selling a multimillion-dollar fitness empire. He delivers candid lessons on passion, consistency, frustration tolerance, and the true nature of entrepreneurial hardship.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
The Myth of Following Your Passion
- Alex’s own journey: He relates to the young man, having once left a well-paying consulting career to pursue his passion for fitness, only to find the realities of business were not aligned with passion alone.
- "I took fitness and went full cycle all the way to a $46 million exit...So then why don’t I do it as my business?" (01:03)
- Passion’s limitations: The work required to monetize a passion is rarely limited to what you love. Most of it, even in your dream business, is mundane or painful.
- "Most of the shit sucks. Even if it starts as something you love, passion is a very bad judgment filter." (10:45)
- Fulfillment vs. addiction: Passion narrows interests, but true fulfillment comes from broadening what brings you joy.
The Realities of Building a Business
- You’ll inevitably do things you dislike: Whether it’s sales, logistics, or dealing with customers, most of the tasks aren’t rooted in passion.
- "You, the vast majority of your time, will not be anything that you’re passionate about." (09:31)
- Scaling means further from the passion: The more successful a business becomes, the more the founder deals with problems unrelated to their original passion.
- No-passion careers: Example of his friend succeeding in high-end cookies, not because of cookie passion but a passion for excellence.
- "Because I’m passionate about being excellent...that was such a powerful reframe for me that I have taken with me for the rest of my life." (29:05)
Persistence and Consistency Trump Passion
- Boredom is the real killer, not difficulty: Success comes from pushing through repetition and monotony, not just hard challenges.
- "The lesson he probably needed was learning to be consistent after something gets boring, because that is where people fall off, is where it gets boring. Not even hard." (33:21)
- Proficiency > Passion: Skills and duty will carry you further than feeling passionate.
- "Your proficiencies will take you much further than your passions." (24:28)
Importance of Frustration Tolerance
- It’s a learnable skill: The willingness to endure rejection and boredom is more predictive of success than initial excitement.
- "The skill deficiency that you might have...is something called frustration tolerance. It’s the number of times you can be rejected and try again. And here’s the best part—it’s learnable, which means it’s a skill." (47:03)
- Cringe is inevitable at the start: Everyone is awkward and bad at first, but moving past this discomfort is key.
- "When you start, you will be cringy as fuck...You will be awkward, you will be weird...And is that a reason to not do it? If you’re a loser, yes. Because it means you care more about their disappointment than your own disappointment in you." (50:01)
Society’s Myths and Unwritten Rules
- Rules are made up: The only real failure is giving up; everything else is mental.
- "You’re not out of business when your bank account runs out. You’re out of business when you have padlocks on your door and people physically stop you from doing work." (43:50, citing Phil Knight)
- "All failure besides death is psychological. It’s literally made up stakes with made up goal lines that we decide that we fell short of." (44:20, quoting Jocko Willink)
- Care less about outside opinions: Most fear is driven by the imagined thoughts of others whose opinions ultimately don’t matter.
- "You need frustration, tolerance, sitting in the unknown with the confidence that you will continue to try because it is solvable even though you don’t know how yet." (57:32)
The Value of Duty and Suffering
- Duty and pride in hard work: Drawing on the example of farmers, Hormozi emphasizes pride in providing for oneself and others, regardless of “passion.”
- "Imagine farmers thousands of years ago...they probably weren’t passionate about rice...but they felt a duty and pride in providing." (25:12)
- Suffering is required for growth: True personal development means enduring pain and difficulty, exceeding current thresholds of stress and work.
- "You have to learn to suffer, and you have to learn to suffer for something that you deem worth suffering for." (1:04:33)
- "The person you want to be is at the end of [the path]. And everything between you now and that man then is the pain you have to learn to get through." (1:10:41)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
-
On passion vs. practicality:
"Pursue your passion is only true in the vague and never in the specific… it doesn’t pencil." (15:56) -
On excellence:
"I’m passionate about my values, and I will let my value show through in how I do business, rather than saying that what I do every day must be the thing." (30:04) -
On frustration tolerance:
"You suck for a long time and you get a little bit better. And that sucking period, slow down, takes a long time...How many times can you do the same thing without reward, without reinforcement, and keep going? That is the hard part..." (59:15) -
On society’s rules:
"The rules society pretends to have, they are made up. Until someone physically restrains you from working, you can keep going. The vast majority of people stop because of perceived failure in their mind." (44:00) -
On pain and progress:
"Pain tolerance helps you finish...Pick a path and commit to the path because the person you want to be is at the end of it..." (1:09:42) -
On nostalgia and rose-colored glasses:
"Nostalgia is memory minus pain." (1:03:06)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- Opening Story: Young Man on Rodeo Drive, Hormozi’s Own Path — 00:00–07:00
- The Narrowness of Passion, Problems with Monetizing It — 07:01–15:30
- The Realities of Running a Business, Why the Work Still Sucks — 15:31–22:00
- Proficiency and Duty Over Passion — 22:01–29:19
- Cookie Business Example, Excellence as a Value — 29:20–32:20
- Why Consistency Gets Harder Over Time — 32:21–35:58
- Persistence, Pain Tolerance, and Learning Frustration Tolerance — 43:01–53:00
- Handling Outside Opinions, Psychological Failure — 53:01–57:50
- Work Ethic, 4am Example — 58:00–1:00:00
- Why “Follow Your Passion” Persists as Bad Advice — 1:01:00–1:03:00
- On Suffering, Becoming Who You Want to Be — 1:04:00–1:08:00
- Final Thoughts: The Only Way Forward is Through Pain — 1:09:01–end
Recap for New Listeners
Alex Hormozi dispels the romanticized idea that passion alone guarantees entrepreneurial success. Drawing from personal and second-hand experiences, he outlines the vital importance of proficiency, duty, and especially frustration tolerance—continuing on even when things are boring, repetitive, or painful. The message is tough love: the life you want is on the other side of extended discomfort, not fleeting passion.
Final advice:
"Pick a path and commit to the path, because the person you want to be is at the end of it. And everything between you now and that man then is the pain you have to learn to get through. And by the time you learn how to get through that pain, you will be there, man." (1:10:41)
