How to Build a Career You Actually Love | Tea with GaryVee Ep #80

Summary

Podcast Summary: The GaryVee Audio Experience
Episode: How to Build a Career You Actually Love | Tea with GaryVee Ep #80
Release Date: August 14, 2025

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Introduction

In Episode #80 of The GaryVee Audio Experience, Gary Vaynerchuk delves into the profound changes impacting creative industries, primarily driven by advancements in Artificial Intelligence (AI). Throughout the episode, Gary engages with listeners, offering actionable advice on building a fulfilling career, navigating career transitions, and overcoming personal and professional challenges.

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1. The Impact of AI on Creative Industries [00:00 - 07:51]

Gary kicks off the episode by addressing the seismic shifts AI is causing across various creative sectors, including Hollywood, advertising agencies like VaynerMedia, and traditional industries such as bookstores and taxi services.

• Gary Vaynerchuk [00:00]:
  “Every single creative industry, VaynerMedia, Hollywood, Madison Avenue is going to be massively affected by AI. I think I'm going to make feature films on a computer.”
  (00:00)

He draws parallels to past industry disruptions, emphasizing the inevitability of change and the necessity for adaptation.

• Gary Vaynerchuk [00:34]:
  “Shit's changing. You're in trouble. Sorry. Just like the Yellow Pages salesman was in trouble.”
  (00:34)

2. Listener Call-In: Jared’s Career Transition Struggle [00:37 - 04:12]

Caller: Jared, a lawyer seeking a career shift.

Jared expresses frustration over being perceived as overqualified while striving to transition into a role aligned with his passions, particularly in storytelling and content creation.

• Jared [00:35]:
  “If you're going to your job Monday and aren't happy, what are you doing to change that?”
  (00:35)

Gary’s Advice:

Gary advises Jared to focus on execution over ideas, especially leveraging AI to enhance storytelling capabilities. He underscores the importance of demonstrating tangible results rather than merely presenting ideas.

• Gary Vaynerchuk [01:20]:
  “AI is a great place for you to go all in on because the next 24 months, everyone's going to be looking for AI people, AI knowledge, AI stuff.”
  (01:20)

3. Listener Call-In: Pablo’s Career Uncertainty [04:17 - 07:51]

Caller: Pablo, facing unemployment and homesickness after moving for a job.

Pablo seeks guidance on handling transition periods and whether he made the right career move.

• Pablo [04:17]:
  “Did I make a mistake? And better yet, how have you handled transition periods in your life?”
  (04:17)

Gary’s Advice:

Gary emphasizes patience, advising Pablo not to judge his decision hastily. He encourages focusing on long-term outcomes rather than immediate discomfort.

• Gary Vaynerchuk [04:36]:
  “I've handled transition periods by not judging transition periods in the first week. I judge transition periods in multiple years, not in multiple days.”
  (04:36)

4. Listener Call-In: Mark’s Film Industry Concerns [05:03 - 07:51]

Caller: Mark, a grip with 12+ years in the film industry, transitioning to TV production.

Mark is concerned about AI's impact on film production and seeks Gary’s predictions for Hollywood.

• Mark [05:19]:
  “What are your predictions, business-wise, about Hollywood, the film industry, and AI?”
  (05:19)

Gary’s Insight:

Gary reiterates the transformative power of AI, predicting that AI will democratize content creation, making high-quality production affordable and accessible from home.

• Gary Vaynerchuk [05:19]:
  “Every single creative industry, VaynerMedia, Hollywood, Madison Avenue is going to be massively affected by AI because you can make incredible visuals for far less money without ever leaving the comforts of your home.”
  (05:19)

He emphasizes the need for creative and strategic adaptation to thrive in the evolving landscape.

5. Listener Call-In: Mike’s Work-Life Balance Dilemma [07:51 - 11:52]

Caller: Mike, balancing a full-time job and building his own agency amidst a personal separation.

Mike grapples with prioritizing time between work and his children during a challenging life transition.

• Mike [07:52]:
  “Where do I fight for more time with my kids now and work my face off and figure it out financially or do I agree to the minimal time now and build it up and then fight for more time with them later?”
  (07:52)

Gary’s Guidance:

Gary offers empathetic advice, encouraging Mike to find a balanced "gray" area between extremes. He stresses the importance of quality time and being present with his children without self-judgment during tough periods.

• Gary Vaynerchuk [10:24]:
  “Instead of it being black or white, fight the gray. So whatever you're feeling right now... is probably a good place to try to target.”
  (10:24)

6. Listener Call-In: Hannah’s Interview Nerves [12:06 - 19:09]

Caller: Hannah, preparing for a final interview and seeking strategies to manage anxiety.

Hannah is nervous about potential outcomes and how to maintain self-confidence during interviews.

• Hannah [12:06]:
  “I'd love to know how you calm your nerves and emotions before a big [event].”
  (12:06)

Gary’s Strategy:

Gary advises Hannah to adopt a mindset where the outcome is neutral—recognizing that even if things don’t go well, it’s not the end of the world. He emphasizes being one's own biggest supporter rather than a harsh critic.

• Gary Vaynerchuk [12:06]:
  “Be your number one fan versus being your number one critic.”
  (12:06)

7. Listener Call-In: Charlie’s Career Burnout [16:24 - 25:02]

Caller: Charlie, experiencing burnout despite holding a good-paying job.

Charlie feels unmotivated and burnt out, unsure whether to continue in his current role or pursue other interests.

• Charlie [16:38]:
  “I just reached the point where I feel like I'm just working a 9 to 5. There's almost no freedom for me at all.”
  (16:38)

Gary’s Advice:

Gary encourages Charlie to either find joy outside of his current job or have the courage to pursue his passions, even if it means facing uncertainty. He emphasizes that leaving a comfortable job to seek fulfillment is a sign of strength, not failure.

• Gary Vaynerchuk [17:06]:
  “You’re strong, you’re capable, you’re allowed to quit. Try to make yourself happier.”
  (17:06)

8. Listener Call-In: Tyler’s Real Estate Ambitions [22:56 - 26:52]

Caller: Tyler, a recent federal employee transitioning to real estate entrepreneurship.

Tyler seeks advice on generating sufficient income to support his real estate ventures without relying on a full-time job.

• Tyler [23:01]:
  “I want to do full-time real estate on my own, doing my own thing, but I don’t know what exactly that means.”
  (23:01)

Gary’s Recommendations:

Gary suggests gaining experience by working in larger-scale real estate firms, even if it means starting in entry-level positions. This approach allows Tyler to learn essential skills while maintaining his entrepreneurial aspirations.

• Gary Vaynerchuk [24:52]:
  “Go work at somewhere that will teach you a skill that you want for yourself based on what you want to do, even if it’s an entry-level job.”
  (24:52)

9. Listener Call-In: Josh’s Workplace Challenge [26:52 - 29:09]

Caller: Josh, a plant manager dealing with an emotional and potentially litigious employee post-workers' comp case.

Josh is conflicted about retaining a highly skilled yet emotionally disruptive employee.

• Josh [26:52]:
  “He has been a very emotional, dramatic employee. As an owner, would you allow someone like this to stay?”
  (26:52)

Gary’s Perspective:

Gary advocates for addressing emotional issues in the workplace proactively. While valuing the employee’s skills, he emphasizes the importance of maintaining a healthy work environment and discourages tolerating disruptive behavior solely for performance.

• Gary Vaynerchuk [27:16]:
  “Emotional shortcomings in the workplace are often mapped with emotional shortcomings outside the workplace.”
  (27:16)

10. Listener Call-In: Sage’s Motivation Struggle [29:09 - 30:59]

Caller: Sage, dealing with the loss of her mother and pressured by family to pursue a conventional job path.

Sage seeks advice on maintaining motivation and identifying her true passions amid familial pressures and personal grief.

• Sage [29:09]:
  “I've been on a roller coaster since I lost my mom five years ago... pressured by family to work a 40-hour a week job that I don't like.”
  (29:09)

Gary’s Insight:

Gary differentiates between enablers and true supporters, urging Sage to reflect on her motivations and the influence of her support system. He emphasizes the importance of self-accountability and pursuing authentic passions over conforming to external expectations.

• Gary Vaynerchuk [29:31]:
  “A supporter is going to hold you accountable.”
  (29:31)

11. Listener Call-In: Victoria’s Twin Podcast Growth [30:59 - 31:52]

Caller: Victoria, co-hosting a twin-focused podcast seeking strategies to accelerate growth and attract more listeners.

• Victoria [31:00]:
  “How can we kind of like podcast and get it out there? We have episodes like 20 to 30.”
  (31:00)

Gary’s Strategy:

Gary advises Victoria to ramp up content production across multiple social media platforms to increase visibility. He recommends consistent, high-volume posting and leveraging all available channels to maximize reach.

• Gary Vaynerchuk [31:32]:
  “You need to make a fuckload of social media content to bring awareness to your podcast.”
  (31:32)

He also suggests expanding to additional platforms like Twitter and Facebook and increasing posting frequency to twice daily to enhance engagement.

• Gary Vaynerchuk [32:10]:
  “I want you to post two times a day on all those platforms.”
  (32:10)

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Conclusion

Throughout Episode #80, Gary Vaynerchuk offers a blend of candid insights and pragmatic advice, empowering listeners to navigate career challenges and personal hurdles. His emphasis on adaptability, particularly in the face of AI-driven transformations, underscores the importance of continuous learning and strategic execution. By engaging directly with listeners' real-world problems, Gary provides actionable strategies aimed at fostering careers that align with individual passions and evolving industry landscapes.

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Notable Quotes:

• Gary on AI’s Impact:
  “Shit's changing. You're in trouble. Sorry.”
  (00:34)

• Gary on Execution Over Ideas:
  “Less ideas and more execution.”
  (01:20)

• Gary on Being Your Own Fan:
  “Be your number one fan versus being your number one critic.”
  (12:06)

• Gary on Career Burnout:
  “You’re strong, you’re capable, you’re allowed to quit.”
  (17:06)

• Gary on Supporters vs. Enablers:
  “A supporter is going to hold you accountable.”
  (29:31)

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the key discussions and actionable insights from Episode #80 of The GaryVee Audio Experience, providing valuable takeaways for listeners and those seeking to build careers they genuinely love.

Transcript

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Every Single Creative Industry, VaynerMedia, Hollywood, Madison Avenue is going to be massively affected by AI. I think I'm going to make feature films on a computer. Avicii sat in the fucking middle of Europe on his computer and changed the world. So that's what's gonna fucking happen. Sorry, Hollywood, sorry, VaynerMedia and other ad agencies. Shit's changing. You're in trouble. Sorry. Just like the Yellow Pages salesman was in trouble. Just like the bookstores were in trouble. Just like the taxi drivers were in trouble. The whole game's about to change. There we go. How are you, Jared?

[Jared]

Doing good, how are you?

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

I'm quite well. What's cooking?

[Jared]

So I've been following your content, as you know, for a long time. Minted the gold chinchilla. One of the chinchilla maxis out there with. I know, Justin, one of your pieces of content really resonated with me. You know, if you're going to your job Monday and aren't happy, you know, what are you doing to change that? I've been applying to a bunch of positions, gotten the response like, you know, you're over qualified. Why are you looking to make from a lawyer into this?

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

How many people have you asked?

[Jared]

I try to send out at least 50 daily on LinkedIn and Twitter messages. I've even said, I've even emailed you and AJ and Tyler and Cranac and Jeremy.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

And what are you looking to do in my company's world?

[Jared]

For example, how I could be really useful in the friends and storytelling and I have kind of made it a little mini passion project of writing, kind of going back to the OG days, writing little workplace warrior stories about how the different vee friends could represent actual, you know, jobs and entrepreneurs, you know, whether that be doctors, you know, whatever, you know, lawyers.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Let me give you some insight. So for V. For V friends, because so much work has been put on the Canon era and the origin stories, it's a timing thing. We're in a place right now where the creative team is so locked in to what we're doing and it's mapping the next 36 months that the value doesn't come in new ideas. But on the AI part, if you're actually learning how to use AI and sent examples of how you created things using AI with the creative, that might give you a leg up. I think that's what I can speak for us. And I would say AI is a great place for you to go all in on because the next 24 months, everyone's going to be looking for AI people, AI knowledge, AI stuff. So what I would say to you is less ideas and more execution. I would get very deeply good at AI storytelling and then sending companies like us and others things you made so people can see it and then bang.

[Jared]

Yeah, that's actually what I've been doing. I've been emailing the team stories that I use AI as prompts.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

That's not going to be enough. I would say again, because that's grounded in ideas. Notice what I said earlier, the ideas part is not the interesting part. Only because we're stuck in this spot right now where we've spent two years and the last six months, especially setting up the next five years of canon. So it's just a timing thing. It doesn't. For many people, that would be valuable. What we would be value, what we would be excited about would be creative output. Like a three minute video taking. What? You know this. If you made a three minute video taking what was in the last comic, comic book or the next comic book and creating content that gets on my.

[Jared]

Radar, I'd be remiss real quick. Before I left, I'd be remiss if I didn't ask for that big chinchilla plush. You know, I'm always in here asking. I'd be remiss if I didn't bring it up.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

I've promised the crew that the chinchilla that's here stays. But I can, I can confirm a little bit of alpha here. There has been an overwhelming response to that Chill Chinchilla. And there is significant momentum on us producing it and making it available. So more to come on that. Awesome.

[Jared]

Thanks, Gary.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Take care, brother. Take care. All right, Pablo, what do you got?

[Pablo]

Mark asked. I'm currently unemployed. Took a chance on making more money in the state of Minnesota. I left my cook job and also my family back in Texas for a chance to give them a better life. I've been here a week already and I feel homesick. Did I make a mistake? And better yet, how have you handled transition periods in your life?

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

It sounds like he's just starting. I've handled transition periods by not judging transition periods in the first week. I judge transition periods in multiple years, not in multiple days. So I would say that I handle it by deploying patience. And I don't think he's made a mistake. I think he's jumping too quick, you know? All right, back to whatnot.

[Pablo]

Alex asks, with the film industry struggling in the usa, you are starting a TV production company. What are your predictions? Business wise about Hollywood, the film industry and AI asking as a member of the film industry who's trying to move into producing after 12 plus years working on a set as a grip.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Every Single Creative Industry, VaynerMedia, Hollywood Madison Avenue is going to be massively affected by AI because you can make make incredible visuals for far less money without ever leaving the comforts of your home. The whole game's about to change the end. Like I think I'm gonna make feature films on a computer. And by the way, that's how music's made now, digitally, in a way that a lot of people don't feel great about. But nobody in Hollywood cared about the music people when they were disrupted by Napster and by being able to to Avicii sat in the fucking middle of Europe on his computer and changed the world. So that's what's gonna fucking happen. Sorry Hollywood, sorry vaynermedia and other ad agencies. Shit's changing. And so if you're not fucking adjusting, I'm spending an enormous amount of mine time and strategy on what we're gonna do about it. And what we're gonna do about it is we're gonna become great at it. And so what you're gonna. The people that are creative and strategic are gonna get most of the money, not the people that are lugging shit around. The person that's holding lighting. If your job is to hold a light, if you're a light man or woman, right? There's people that do that. You're in charge of the lighting. You're in trouble. Sorry. Just like the Yellow Pages salesman was in trouble. Just like the bookstores were in trouble, just like the taxi drivers were in trouble. Just like the people that literally. Pablo, do you understand on this little island that you're sitting on right now, 110 years ago, a lot of people's job was to clean up horses. Horse shit. That was their job. We all got around on horses and horses shit. Pablo, do you know that horse is shit? And the shit was on the street? And do you know that people got paid to clean up the shit when we went to cars? What the fuck do you think happened? Do you understand? When we went to the telephone, instead of everything being a letter, the people that were part of the letter business, ink, paper, the delivery of letters, when we went to telephone changed. We didn't cry for the letter people, we just marveled at having letters. Like, yes, shit's gonna change. So that's it, man. If you're in Hollywood or Madison Avenue, start adjusting the game's changing. Mike B is live on video. Mike B is live on video, on whatnot. If you want to see him court, fix the chat. Keep an eye on that for me if you don't mind. Or you can give me the mic on that if you want. Mike B, how are you, where are you from and what can I help you with?

[Charlie]

Good.

[Mike]

I'm in Vancouver, Washington and my life kind of got flipped upside down a few months ago. Going through a separation right now. Three kids and I currently work full time job at an ad agency in New York City. Remote. But I'm also building out my own agency. I've been doing it for the last six years. And I guess my question is right now I'm in a tough spot because I'm. I'm going through custody situations. But while I want more time with my kids, I need. My full time job isn't enough to support financially. So I do need extra, which is no problem. I've been working seven days a week, all day for years. Like I have no problem putting in the work. But it's, it's getting to the point where it's a hard decision. Where do I fight for more time with my kids now and work my face off and figure it out financially or do I agree to the minimal time now and build it up and then fight for more time with them later? I know it's like not, not looking for legal advice.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

No, I understand. Mike, listen, I have a lot of compassion and empathy for you. This is obviously a challenging chapter in your life. Here's the good news. First, I think you can find some solace in this. I really am fascinated by kids and parents and all that stuff. I spent a lot of time on it in the last 20 years. Is first and foremost, just please focus deeply, deeply that your children know that you love them and you're always there for them. You're lucky. We live in a world where FaceTime and all this other stuff, you know, as you can imagine, there's no quote, unquote, right answer. I think that the struggle between financial realities and family realities is very real. And even for people that are not, not in a divorce and custody situation, people struggle with this. I would say focus on a couple things. One, realizing the only right answer is that those children know that their dad is there for them constantly and always in any situation and that you love the living shit out of them. That is the only right answer. Right. You know, I. Look, I think you want to, you want to, you definitely want to fight for as much time as you personally think you can go for. Meaning, I think there's potentially an in between from the way you structured it. There's probably an in between from the most minimum amount of time with them, but also and in between from like you leaving a little bit on the table from the work stuff and the kids stuff. So it's kind of finding purple instead of red or blue. Blue.

[Mike]

Right.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Instead of it being black or white, fight the gray. So whatever you're feeling right now, whatever the bare minimum is like 20 to 50% more than that based on your situation, is probably, quote unquote, a good place to try to target. And then in the time that you're not with them, that you're upset, that you can't be 50, 50, or as much as possible over indexing on them feeling your presence. And here's a big one. Dominating when you're actually with them.

[Mike]

Right, right.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Like. Like being. Yeah, exactly. And, and honestly not beating yourself up. Here's what will happen. There'll be a time where you're with them and works on fire and there's a problem or some other problem, or you're not your best self because you had a tough day or a tough argument with their mom or who knows, right. If you have a bad weekend or a bad, like, time with them, like you didn't feel as present as you want it to be. Not beating yourself up and knowing you have the next time with them to make up for it.

[Mike]

Yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

You understand?

[Mike]

Yeah, I. I really appreciate it, man. That, that helps a lot and just appreciate everything you do. You've been a big help for me and Beacon for years, man. Just really appreciate it.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

I'm. I'm really cheering for you. And brother, there's some real light and gold at the end of this tunnel. I promise you, as tough as this is in context, there'll be a lot of good things that come out of this, even though this is painful. And I really believe you're going to get to the other side in a good way, brother.

[Mike]

Thank you. I feel it and I can see myself. Thank you.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

You're welcome, brother. Take care.

[Pablo]

Pablo, next question Hannah's asking. I'm prepping for my last round interview in person, I have at this foundation, and considering I've been trying to find a job for eight months and the job market is tumultuous, I'm a bit nervous. I'd love to know how you calm your nerves and emotions before a big.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Life event by realizing that if you don't. It's probably not gonna go well. And so really, this becomes a game of knowing you have no choice. And not. Again, similar to the gentleman before, here's my number one thing right now that I'm hot on is being your number one fan versus being your number one critic. Like, when. When she says that it's likely her next four job interviews are not gonna go well, she has it in her, right? Like, for example, again, I'm bringing up yesterday, like, for all the people that were watching basketball yesterday, when I lose my chemicals go weird. I know that, like, me just, like, leaving the game and not doing the Astro, sure, that was not, like, the right thing, but I'm not gonna sit today and be like, I'm a piece of shit. Even though, like, some of the Be Friends communities, like, that was fucked up, Gary. You know what I mean? Like, you know, I had a bad moment, and everyone's allowed to. And so, like, she's allowed to have shitty interviews. And the more she's not upset at herself for the next shitty interview, the more likely her next interview will be good, right? Like, I need people to really understand this. How does she address this is when I do my most pressure. I gave an NYU commencement speech. As, you know, most. A lot of people saw that video. I did not prep for it at all. And right before I went on, I go, man, is this the right thing not to prep for? Even though I never prep. And I. And I'm sitting there and I'm like, this could go really bad, or this could go well. But the reason it went so well, I believe, is because if I fucking bombed and it was terrible, I'd be fine. And again, I think the thing that's fucking up so many people right now is they're not their number one fan. You gotta be your number one fan. You can't beat yourself up. Like, for example, I'm looking at all these people on TikTok and Instagram right now, right? Greg O. Jacko, Samachi, Wolftang. Hi, Chase, Gray. I need all of them to be on One Knot. I need them all to be on One Knot. I hate them all right now. I'm angry at everybody on all my socials that have not come over here, but they shouldn't be mad. They shouldn't be be sad that I am mad at them. They need to be insular. They need to be insular. You must be insular. What's her name again?

[Pablo]

Hannah.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Hannah, you. The way that you can deliver on big moments is by already Deciding that you lost the one place in my life, personally and professionally, emotionally, everything in my life, I decided. Already lost. V. Friends failed. Vayner failed. I failed. I've decided it. I have felt the feelings. The only place in my life that I have decided I haven't lost yet is when I compete in sports. You guys have seen me when things don't go well. I'm like, easy, easy. Big shit. Lost $10 million account. Non event. Non event. Lose a stinking pickup game last night. Four games to love. Dead. Dead. Because there I'm like, we're gonna win no matter what. I'm. I have expectations to win, which is funny, because in life, I'm dominant. In sports, I'm very below average. It's almost like this delusional reverse reality in my life. So anyway, the reason so many people are unhappy in life is there the reverse of me. They don't care about sports. It's just a game. And then in real life, they care about every little fucking thing. Expectations is. Motherfucker. They're literally the reverse of me. I take silly games as the most important thing. They all say it doesn't matter. Do you understand? A game of UNO is like life and death to me. Do you understand? Me and AJ's only major fight in our life. Major fight. Was over Scattergories. Major. Like, fuck you. Fuck you. We're done. We're in business together. I take games super serious, which aren't serious, and I take life super not serious, but it's super serious. That's the twist, y'.

[Charlie]

All.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

That's the twist. Charlie Garcia in the building. What's good, sir?

[Charlie]

How you doing, sir?

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

How are you?

[Charlie]

Meet you, Gary.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Pleasure. My man. Where are you from?

[Charlie]

Doing good. I'm from Georgia. Atlanta, Georgia.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

My man. Sir, what can I help you with?

[Charlie]

Yeah, so right now I'm. I'm. I. I have a good. I have a pretty good job. And I'm honest. I'm not complaining, but it's just. I don't know. I just. I don't. I don't enjoy it as much as I used to.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Well, change. Change your job.

[Charlie]

Like, I don't know why. It's just a really good thing. Just a really good paying job and I don't know.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

So suck it up and get. And get your joy elsewhere.

[Charlie]

Yeah, I don't know. I just. I guess I've also just. I just reached up. I don't know, just the point where I'm just. Like I said in the text, I said I feel like I'm burnt out. I just feel unmotivated.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Well then quit. You're a grown ass man, my man. This is called life. Ain't nobody gonna hear your complaining. That's gonna be productive. You're. You're strong, you're capable, you're allowed to quit. Try some other fail at it and then go get a job that's similar or the same job with your tail between your legs and it's all good. That's not failure actually, that's strength. You quitting and trying to make yourself happier and then losing and then going back to a job, I admire that. What I don't admire is dwelling action, my guy. Either take the action of sucking it the up like we all do in many parts of our life. I don't do it in my job, I do it in other places. And fucking get your joy elsewhere, or have the courage to chase a dream and get the fuck out. And then don't be scared of losing because if you lose and whatever the fuck your alternative is, you go back and get a job. That's called a real man. You're a real man. Big shout out to Bach Krug. I think Bach Krug with the wind. It's so funny. Meowy says in the chat, brother, you're 50. Shut up. But it's so funny. 50 is the people that should be listen should be talking. What's that?

[Charlie]

The one, the person I just won. Barbara.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

She's.

[Charlie]

She works on, on the team.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

That's awesome. You know what I mean, Charlie?

[Charlie]

Yes, sir, I do.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

So what do you think you want to do? What do you, what do you think you want to do?

[Charlie]

But honest. Honestly, I just. I. The job I have now is. I got really good at it in. I've. Rosen. I'm not, I'm not a manager, but I'm like. I've rose into this like top the lead, basically. Elite tech.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Yeah.

[Charlie]

Company.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Okay.

[Charlie]

And. But I feel like I'm just working. This is a repeated cycle. Just working at 9 to 5. There's almost no freedom for me at all. Like.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

No, there's tons of freedom. 9 to 5. Do you work 9 to 5? Is that the actual hours?

[Charlie]

It's a close 12 hours. 12 hours before they just, you know.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

You know, you know. You know what I think is happening? I think you're. You just might be too talented. You're not challenged enough. I think you secretly know you've got more in you and can do more, but you're scared of that. I think you're listening to conservative people too much. I think you're ready to jump and I think everyone around you is telling you not to because you got a good situation. But I just think you're more talented than everybody that you're listening to. Think about this. Everyone who's telling you to stay in your job. And then you've got me telling you to quit your job and go of those people who's more successful? Me or your fucking relatives that are telling you to stay in the fucking job. Good. Always judge who's giving you advice. It's the number one rule in life. Judge the judgers. All the people that are judging you, judge them back. So when your auntie says, what are you talking about? You have a great paying job. Be like auntie, I don't want your life, Charlie, who you living for? You or someone else?

[Charlie]

I know the answer is for me, but I don't know. I just. I grew up in a. In a home book where it was just me, my mother and my brother and because at a young. Well I wasn't even that young. I was like 11 years old. And so my father left the. And you know, I had to step up, you know, become support from a mother.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Yeah, I get it, bro. I admire the shit out of you. Both my parents lost a parent. I was the financial foundation of my family as a young dude. I get it. Guess what? It's not your fault that you ended up being more talented than what you're doing right now. It's a blessing. You need to walk into your destiny. And if you fail, you brother, let me promise you one thing. Now that I've chopped it up with you a little bit. If you go fail at the thing that you're trying to do that's bigger than what you're doing now, what you're doing now will take you back in open arms. Whether at this company or something like this company. Let me promise you that. My guy. Bro, you're bored. Yeah, no, you're bored, my dude. You're too talented for what the you're doing. Quit and do something bigger. And if you lose, go back to this. At least you know you tried. You won't regret. Go, go jump bro. You. You're. You're bigger than your job. You're going to do better. And don't worry about everybody who booze you and, and tell your mom or your brother or somebody, anybody else that says what the are you doing, Gary? Vee's wrong. Tell them from Gary.

[Charlie]

Yes sir.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Love you.

[Charlie]

I will. Love you too. Appreciate You. Thank you very much.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

You're welcome. Tyler Hahn in the building. What's good, brother?

[Tyler Hahn]

How you doing, Gary?

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

I'm quite well. How are you?

[Tyler Hahn]

I'm good, I'm good.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Where are you from?

[Tyler Hahn]

I wanted to ask you quick. So I am a recent federal employee. When the new administration came in, I took a resignation offer. So I stopped getting paid in about six months at the end of September.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Okay.

[Tyler Hahn]

I have three, about to be four rental properties and I'm working on a flip with some partners. I don't want to get another full time job. I want to do full time real estate on my own, doing my own thing.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Love it.

[Tyler Hahn]

Just don't know what exactly that means.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

And what it's to do that. It sounds like you're doing that.

[Tyler Hahn]

A little bit. The issue is I don't have what I have and take up 40 hours of my week. You know, I can do it in five to 10 and I still want to do more. I just don't know what that is.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Why don't you do more of what you're doing?

[Tyler Hahn]

Oh, well, I guess some of it is a, is a money thing. To buy the rentals. I have to have a little bit of money. So I'm trying to figure out where to find the income.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Well, what about getting a job that is more in line with what you're interested in? So one of the things I think about is when you're a young kid like you wanting to get into a business, there's a ton of shit you don't know about this business. Right. Even if you got an entry level job at a company that does what you do at way bigger scale, you'll be learning there. You see where I'm going for sure.

[Tyler Hahn]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

So one of the options for you and everybody who's listening is to take jobs in companies that do what you're wanting to do to do it at a much bigger scale. Right. And so. Because you'll learn. And so I think one of the options for you, brother, is to go and get a job at a real estate company that does what you're doing at a much bigger level.

[Tyler Hahn]

Yeah.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

So that you can learn while you're there for a little while.

[Tyler Hahn]

I see.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

You see where I'm going.

[Tyler Hahn]

I gotcha. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I have thought about that before. I guess the job market is a hard thing, you know, to get into one of those things.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Yeah. But it's tough to do that. But again, if you, if you decide to do it smaller, like, like, again, it sounds like you want to do this entrepreneurial thing?

[Tyler Hahn]

Absolutely.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Are you willing to live humbly in this part of your early life?

[Tyler Hahn]

I do. Now I live in. Me and my wife live in a one room apartment that's part of one of the houses we are renting.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Smart.

[Tyler Hahn]

So teacher, all our expenses are covered so I can kind of take. So sounds like time to do whatever. You know, I could try to build something. Bro, you could be a realtor or something like that.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Bro, you could all. You could also be the assistant or the greeter in a company that does what you want to do at a larger scale and get paid minimum wage.

[Tyler Hahn]

Right.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

You see where I'm going? Like the job. The job. The job market's hard when you try to get jobs that are bigger than you. You know how many people are doing that right now? Everyone's like, the job market's hard. I dig in and double click and I look and the person is trying to get a job that is way overqualified for them. The job market's hard when you don't have humility. But I'm for sure a believer that you could get an entry level job in a real estate firm that does flipping at scale. Right. You see where I'm going, Ty?

[Tyler Hahn]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

That, that. And if that's not it, get a job at a moment marketing firm that does personal branding as an assistant or a greeter or an entry level employee so that you can learn how to do content and marketing so you can use content and marketing for yourself to get deals and opportunities.

[Tyler Hahn]

I see.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

You see where I'm going. Go work at somewhere that will teach you a skill that you want for yourself based on what you want to do, even if it's an entry level job. Right, Got it.

[Tyler Hahn]

Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

I appreciate it, Gary.

[Tyler Hahn]

Thanks a lot.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

All right. Thank you. Yeah. All right, Pablo.

[Pablo]

Josh is asking. I work as the plant manager for a small family owned manufacturing company. We have a maintenance technician that reports directly to me. He recently went through a workers comp case and has created quite the headache for our HR department, lowering up and threatening legal action. His work ethic and skills are phenomenal and I don't want to lose him, but he has been a very emotional, dramatic employee. As an owner, would you allow someone.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Like this to stay when someone justifies bad behavior? And by the way, I don't know if this lawyering up like that employee might be right. So on the record, I have no idea if he's right. I'm not worried about the lawyering up. I'M worried about the way the question was asked. So many people look the other way on employees that are emotional issues. Distractions, cancers bring negativity, cause problems, fuck the machine up. Because they're good at their job. It is a massive mistake. Now you want to give effort and you want to try to build that person up. You want to explain to them that you want to mentor them. You don't want to just like first, you know, there's, you know, there's three strikes in baseball. In life, you got to give people more grace than one. But you know, when there's consistency in that. Emotional, emotional shortcomings in the workplace are often mapped with emotional shortcomings outside the workplace. And they're hard to change sometimes. And people do grow up, people do become more accountable, people do get better. People get less insecure, less territorial. But I never have ever kept anybody in a company because of their skill set. I've kept them in the company because I felt like we could give them one more chance. I root for them, that's fine. But justifying keeping someone in the company because they're good at their job when they are. An issue to the system is why the most talented sports teams don't win championships. This goes back to sports, you know why the most talented super teams don't win the locker room shit. The locker room shit. And so that's real life in business too. So that's what's up on that one. Pablo, go ahead.

[Pablo]

Sage is asking. I've been on a roller coaster since I lost my mom five years ago. She was my friend and number one supporter. Now I'm being pressured by family to work a 40 hour a week job that I don't like doing. I know my flaws are that I give up easily, but I'm really trying to finish school and figure out where, what to do. Any advice on keeping up my motivation, not giving up, or knowing what I really love to do?

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

This is a little tough because when I hear that, especially with all due respect to the devastation of losing a parent, when I hear the other family members pushing for a 40 year old job and I hear I do give up and all that stuff, what I'm concerned about is the mom was the enabler. And that's tough to say because mom's not with us and like I struggle, I struggled, I think everybody knows I go pretty canderous here on the record. That was hard to say out loud. That was a challenge for me. But I really, I really want this person to be accountable and ask Themselves. A lot of people think your biggest supporter is a supporter, but the actual reality is is that your biggest supporter oftentimes is your biggest enabler, not supporter. A supporter is going to hold you accountable. I would say that you never want to give up on dreams and passion. But that line in the question of, like, I know I give up easy and like, the mom, moms are moms and dads are almost always the enablers. And it's so tough. Like, there's such a fine line between being an enabler and being a supporter. But that's what I would ask this person to be self reflective and find out, you know, finishing school sounds like that's been dragging on. Sounds like the person doesn't want to do anything. You know what I mean? Worried about that. Victoria.

[Victoria]

Hey, Gary. How are you?

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

I'm well. How are you?

[Victoria]

Good. So our question is, this is my twin sister and we just started a podcast talking about, like, our bond as twins. And no one can really understand that. So how can we kind of like podcast and get it out there? We're probably on episode like, 20 to 30. We have someone, like, producing it for us and everything like that. But we're just trying to grow it, like, as quick as we can and get as many, like, twin guests on and, you know, share all of our interesting information that not many people know about twins.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

So I think one issue is that you said the word quick.

[Victoria]

Okay.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

That is killing kids.

[Victoria]

Yeah.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Like, all of you want it too fast. Victoria. Anna, I worked in a liquor store from 22 to 34. Quick was the. No, I get that quick was the tell in your question. Yeah, you know, my answer is going to be. You already know what my answer is going to be. If you're on this show, you need to make a fuckload of social media content to bring awareness to your podcast.

[Victoria]

Yeah, we did the video for, like, the A to Z thing through all of our contacts.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

I love that. I love that. But how much content are you putting out on social Every day?

[Victoria]

At least once a day.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Good.

[Victoria]

Like religiously at least.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Which platform?

[Victoria]

Tick Tock. Instagram. And then our youtubes are like a little bit of the shorts. And then like, obviously our podcast.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

And what about Twitter and what about Facebook?

[Victoria]

Facebook and Twitter?

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

No, I want you to add that.

[Victoria]

Okay.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

I want you to post what you're posting on Tik Tok on Snapchat Spotlight.

[Victoria]

Okay.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

I want you to post 2 times a day on all those platforms.

[Victoria]

Got it.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

And I want you to close all four of your eyes and wake up in five years after doing it and then judge if it's working or not.

[Victoria]

Gotcha. Okay, cool. Sounds good. Thank you so much.

[Gary Vaynerchuk]

Man. This was a fun tea with Gary Vee. I'm so excited. The show is, like, such a good format. We get super real. That last question before the kids was, like, real. Like, this whole supporter enabler thing is a real topic.