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How to Overcome Fear in Business and Build Unstoppable Confidence | Tea with GaryVee Ep #81
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A
Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Great to be here. July 7, 2025, AskGaryVee Show 81 is in the building. Let's get into the show. Tea with GaryVee81. Let's blast off. Aaron Goh.
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B
Okay, this question is from Jackson in Vancouver, Canada. I'm 17 years old and my dream is to be a screenwriter. My question for you is, should I pursue a more viable career that would make more money and try to do writing on the side or just go all in on writing?
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A
Go all in on writing. 17 again. We talk about this constantly. High. And this is where the world had it wrong for a long time. High risk needs to happen early. You know, Aaron, you and I both, even though I'm a good generation above you, but we both grew up when like, oh, you're 22 now. Go be a grown up. I really believe in this AI live, social shopping, social media world. The viability of making an income at a level similar to what you would make in a job by living in this digital world and by being in that age group of, let's call it 17, since that's the person asking to 28, 29, 30. I really believe those are the golden years. I really do believe 20 to 30 is the new golden years. Not just for fun, but to actually be practical financially by being high risk and by going after your dream. Right. And like doing that court. You played basketball, did you ever when, when you realized you weren't gonna go to the wnba? I don't know if that was like in high school or in college. Did you contemplate like, I should go overseas and play basketball or were you not at that level either? I don't know. I'm asking. I was, I was contemplating it. But I knew honestly going into college that I didn't even want to go Division 1 because I didn't want it to be a full time job. So I wanted to dive into it, understood where I was going with Cordis. I talked to a lot of former athletes who weren't good enough to get to the NFL or the NBA or Major League Baseball, but took professional routes differently. They played overseas in Greece or Turkey or Israel. They played in the Canadian Football League or even like a pro league that nobody really watches. And it is stunningly obvious to me how many of those people do not regret it, whereas so many people I've met regret not chasing their athletic career a little further. That's how I feel about entrepreneurship, script writing, the arts, anything that isn't like, I am a Cog in a machine. And I'm good with that. And by the way, big shout out. And I mean this. Huge shout out to people who are fortunate. And that is the word I'm going to use. I want everybody to listen nice and slow because this is where we have confusion. Huge shout out to people who are, who are genuinely, genuinely happy to be a cog in a machine. To not have to emotionally worry about the business they work for. I have thousands of cogs in the machine in my companies. There's a lot of people that really enjoy life with a very simplistic. I don't want to stress about my career that way. I'm going to work nine to five. I'm going to work 40 hours a week. I'm going to have time at home. I'm gonna be able to go to my kids stuff. I'm gonna enjoy my weekends. I can't wait for 4th of July and Labor Day and Memorial Day weekend. As you guys know, I've been off the grid the last couple weeks. I'm not fully relaxed. Every morning I woke up, I had to look at my phone to make sure something catastrophic didn't happen. Like, that's just like, you don't have a vacation when you own a business. And so big shout out to those people. Obviously those come with limited financial upside compared to an entrepreneur or somebody doing something remarkable in the arts or. But if those individuals know how to manage their money and live within their means. Bless you, rips. Like, you know, I say this all the time. Bless you, rips. A lot of people need to live, move from San Francisco to Chattanooga, Tennessee. A lot of people need to move from Connecticut to, you know, New Hampshire. A lot of people need to move to places, especially as we go into this virtual world. So anyway, long winded answer. 17 to 29, high risk all the way. If something's burning in your tummy, go off, you could always get a job. Once you get a job, you don't have the hours to be creative like that. The thing that everyone's full of shit about, Aaron, and I mean really full of shit about, is they don't want to sacrifice all the other things while they chase their dream. So if this kid's gonna chase his writing dream from 17 to 27, he's going to live very, very humbly. No Mercedes, no trips to the Amalfi coast, no Prada bags. And I think that's great. And that's that. So anyway, and then there's the whole mental part, the judgment when you're gonna get a real job. Your mom and dad, your friends, your buddy that was a equal to you in high school, is now making 100k and has like a little something and all the things that fuck with people mentally. Anyway, that's the answer. Let's keep it moving. Oh, with the hard hat. This man is working. Bronson, you were working, bro. Can you hear me? I can hear you, bro.
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C
Okay, I'll jump right into it. So can you think of a moment in recent history that was really impactful for you that you haven't shared yet on social and put us there in the moment with you?
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A
That's a really good question, brother. I. I think it's. You're catching me at an interesting time. I would say I had a lot of time to think the last couple of weeks and I'm really, really, you know, I'm trying to think of something super impactful that I haven't shared yet. Let me give you something that's current and I'll try to think of something big. But let me give you what's on my mind right now. What's on my mind right now is starting this fall, definitely going into 2026. I've realized I've really missed interacting live like this. Right. This is why I'm doing Tea with Gary Vemore. This is why I'm gonna start doing IRL streaming on Twitch and Kick. Like I feel very much that I'm gravitating towards being more creative. The comic books that I'm navigating, I feel like as I head into my 50th birthday in November, Brunson, I want to be more creative and more community. I want to double down on the two Cs and I feel like I'm really contemplating changing a lot of aspects of how I operate. I also want to wake up earlier like I've been a very much like a 7:30, 8 o', clock, then work out, then go in. But another thing that's on my mind is getting up at like 5 or 6 to give myself some time before today. So that's on my mind. I was up at 5 today, so that's on my mind a little bit. But I haven't had anything like God forbid somebody passed away in a reset by framework or at a health scare or something major. Unless something major with health happens, nothing else is major to me. Those are the major moments in life. You know what I mean?
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C
Yeah, I guess. I guess really impactful may be a little bit too big. Maybe just something that sticks out in your mind where you're like, oh, that's interesting.
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A
Okay, well, I'll give you a good one. AJ called me when I was at the a football game with Andy K a couple years ago, and he's like, bro, you've got to see this. And it was the first time I saw Chat GPT and I was walking out of the stadium. It was the Rams Raiders game. I think it was the game that Baker Mayfield came back and, like, played well and, like, it rejuvenated his career. And I was playing with ChatGPT as I was walking out of the stadium in L. A. And it completely changed the course of how I thought about everything. Right. And like, we are very deep in AI land right now. Same with this platform right here. Live shopping. I'm excited. I mean, we're in the era where search is getting destroyed. Like, AI is exploding by the nanosecond. And I would say that realizing collectibles on the blockchain, NFT 2021, AI 2022 or whatever that was 23. I'm trying to remember. That was. And live shopping last year. Like, these three themes, the blockchain, AI and live social shopping. And very honestly, IRL overall live streaming, these are the themes that have me very like, oh, fuck, I'm paying attention and I'm excited.
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C
Yeah, I had a similar kind of experience with chat to PHT and stuff like that. And I've been taking your advice on using it like an hour a day.
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A
Love you for that.
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C
And it's just such a great research partner and creative partner. It's like writing stuff like that, brainstorming.
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A
It's huge. It's huge. The other thing that's. It's a superpower. I mean, look, the other thing that's really exciting is. And it's free. We. Yeah, it's very low cost. And the other thing that's brewing is people are going to be building websites and apps in a day or two. All of us normies that don't know how to code. That's a big deal. Somebody here watching right now is going to launch an app that's two bucks a month on the App Store in a year. And it's going to change their life by just prompt engineering an idea. Like, all of us have ideas, right? But me included, because I don't code. You don't wake up with an app idea and think it's gonna happen. You think you need a hundred thousand dollars to get a developer and marketing and all this stuff. So, like, lovable is Very much on my radar, and I'm paying attention to that. And so I just think it's an incredible time to be alive. I think everyone's obviously like, actually, that's probably another thing very much on my mind. The polarization of, like, the world right now. Forget about even the politics, the world wars, all that. Forget even that. The separation of wealth, the change in tides. I think we have two groups of people. This is why I'm so motivated to bring back tea with Gary Vee every day. I need everybody here watching to start their day mindset right. We are in such an extremely interesting time in history. And honestly, I genuinely believe this from the bottom of my heart. Either one decides it's terrible or one decides it's remarkable, and both can be true. But you were fundamentally in charge. Not Elon, not Donald Trump, not Vladimir Putin, not fucking Sam Altman like you. And the way you've decided to look at the opportunity in front of you is like 100% real. Like, there's ways right now to, like, get golden visas in Portugal and Dubai that are pretty darn easy in the scheme of things. And so if you're upset with, with Canada or the UK or the us you could stop being a cry fucking baby and just fucking move to Portugal. You could. Now someone's gonna be like, no, no, no. But, like, you could hate your job and you could learn how to use AI and live streaming and the blockchain. Like, like, it's just fucking binary. You could be a fucking crybaby, or you could be an action oriented, accountable, fucking awesome ninja. So you could be a fucking crybaby, or you could be accountable and action oriented and nobody stops.
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C
And it's never been easier.
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A
And it's. But, brother, that's why I'm saying it's never been easier when people like, oh, you should be so awesome in the 90s. They didn't have anything. Like, it wasn't more awesome in the 90s. There was no Tick Tock, There was no Shopify, there was no Google, there was no chat. Like, we didn't have. Like, I was a fucking hustler making like. And I was working my dick off and I was making like $83 a weekend because I had to go to a flea market and then wait for another show to happen two weeks later. There was no fucking Internet, let alone AI. You have one. What's. What's happening actually is technology in this moment is exposing people. It's creating the extreme haves and the extreme have nots. Either you're let either this, this weekend you laid in your bed and you were in your feed and you were upset or you weren't like that's it.
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C
I'm not a great reader either so I can't read for library in high school.
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A
I can't read for either.
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C
Yeah chat. GPT is such a big help with like learning anything.
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A
I want to learn 100% bro.
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C
And Gemini and stuff like that.
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A
All of it, man. All of it. All right. Love you guys. See ya, Bronson. All right. All right. Thank you.
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D
Hey Gary. Actually my name is Joe. It's funny. My, my dog's name is Lenny so and my, my handle is Boston Dog dad. So Lenny is, is my boss. My 13 year old Boston Terrier.
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A
I love it. Jo.
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D
I've been posting consistently for probably, probably the last six years honestly on, on Lenny's Facebook page which is Lenny the Boston and he was actually the first Hotels.com official dog. So also known as the canine critic.
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A
I love in 2019.
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D
Like you said, you know, you have to, you have to get the at bats, you know. And I did. I entered the contest that Hotels.com had. They had entries. I posted Lenny. I said here's why Lenny's deserves to be the Hotels.com K9 critic. They chose us three months later. It was right before the pandemic pandemic ended or pandemic started. We couldn't travel then we were able to travel for hotels.com and we're kind of in a niche spot where we review pet friendly hotels and I review them from Lenny's perspective. So we've grown it from 60 followers to 114,000 followers which is, which is cool. We're reaching 4.5 million views per month. Now we're in the content monetization program which is great. So Lenny's really helping out the, the family which is awesome.
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A
So Lenny's, Lenny's, Lenny's becoming the breadwinner.
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D
Lenny's paying the mortgage. Yeah. And so I'm looking to take his brand to like the next level. He has two, two other little, little brothers. One is two and one is one oh one years old. One is Maui, one is Yoshi there. So we have the three Boston terriers, the Terrier Bros. Or super Boston Bros I call them. And we're just looking to, I'm looking to get them into the hotel review space as well. Looking to kind of see what I should do next to continue building.
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A
It's, it's, it's, it's doubling down on what you Know, you know what my answer is going to be? If you're not on all seven platforms, I'm upset. Like if you're not on YouTube shorts, you know, there's also going live, right? Twitch and Kick, there's, you know, YouTube and Snapchat and TikTok and it's just more like I keep telling people building a brand on social media is like going to the gym. The answer is more like, how do I get. Just came from nice work, you know, like, like I, you know, like people. It's fucking more reps. It's like getting better at basketball. It's like getting better at, you know, chess. It's like we're. What people don't understand is that most people are not disciplined or consistent or tenacious enough to get through the hard days and then they lose momentum. Every one of us, every one of us watching right now has tried to get better at something, right? And every one of us has failed. Like literally every fucking person watching has tried and failed at something. Especially in a world of like health and fitness. Like so many people fail at that. And then there's other skills. I think you know the answer. If you're not posting on every platform and then there's other thing you could start writing on Substack, right? Where's the attention? What's the content you need to do there? How do you over index on awareness on the platforms that have the attention that is the game. There's the seven social networks, there's Substack, there's the live streaming platforms like Twitch and Kick Joe. That's it, brother. Yeah, more reps, more reps. Like how much content is people you have more platforms, more output, more different ways. Written word, audio, video, live recorded doing. You doing podcasts with Lenny, right?
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D
You showing up want to do well.
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A
By the way, then you need to. Then you need to go take a shower since you just worked out and sit there for three hours. And DM every podcaster that talks about dogs or travel and the world. The end. That's what I do. I'm tenacious. Yep. Like a turkey or a termite. Depends on which be friend you like more like, you know, that's it, bro. Got it, right?
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D
I love it. Yes.
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A
All right, man.
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D
Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
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A
Love you, bro. Aaron, go.
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B
Okay. Question from Yomar. What would you say to your 33 year old self? I'm just curious because my Tik Tok has gone ridicul, ridiculously viral in the last 48 hours. If this was my one shot at opportunity. Between how I live and how I want to live, what would you say?
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A
Jump. Go all in. Fear is destroying everybody's soul on this show. Fear of what, though, is what? The question. Like, falling on your face is good, especially if you're lucky, if you have family. Some people don't have family, but if you have family on earth, like falling, your face is good. Because the booby prize of falling on your face is you go get to hang out with your family. Now, some people hate their parents, so that might not work. But sometimes, you know, friends are sometimes family. You know, like, sometimes you're. You know, as we always say, friends are the family you choose, right? So there's friends. Like sleeping on the couch of a loved one or friend I actually genuinely know. Bullshit believe is a badge of honor if you went and took a risk and failed. If you're sleeping on a couch because you fucking want to do coke all night and play video games, losing play. If you just want to sit around and fucking, you know, like, smoke weed all day and gamble on crypto, and that's why you're sleeping on your buddy's couch, you're a fucking loser. But if you went and risked, you quit your job. You had $8,000 in savings, maybe even $8,000 in debt. But you had this moment on TikTok when something's happening and you realize how to monetize. That's the other part. A lot of people can go viral, but they don't know how to make money. This is why I'm obsessed with this platform. I actually think live. So Mike Fee can't sell. He's not a fucking sales dude. But now he's becoming one. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. You didn't, like, obsess your whole life about selling shit. It's true. I'm not making fun of you. I'm saying the truth. Like, I have basically spent. I'm 49 years old. 6. I've spent 43 straight years every day thinking about selling something. Like, I don't know what to tell you. Rips you get over here. Rips this, Rips. When you were like 9 and 10 and 11, like, you thought about selling shit. Yes, Right. All right, thanks. Like Rips wanted. But, Mike, me and Rips could sell on any platform. Ebay, a card, show, flea market, this platform. But Mike here, not a salesperson, but went and did the show and enjoyed it. Yeah. Have you sold anything since, Mike? No, but new, another show coming up. I gotta go back to LBi. That's where I got all the stuff, Mike. It's a small Brooklyn apartment. Mike. I don't give a fuck. I'm gonna go pick trash. Like when people do the stupid. Mike, what have you been doing for the last two weeks? In detail, in detail, what have you been doing?
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C
Like, this started last month, Monday at 9am I woke up.
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A
I want to know what your 7pm to midnight has looked like for the last two weeks. You know, I can promise you what looks like it means you could have went back to LBI and got more stuff. And this is what I mean. And like no burn on Mike. What I'm saying is. What I'm saying is like, just cause you go viral doesn't mean anything. Like one. Like there's 8 billion people that had a clip get a million views on TikTok that have done nothing with it. It's all fucking discipline, execution, knowing how to monetize. Are you selling something? Are you trying to get brand dollars? Mike, Mike. Mikey, the designer on Vee Friends, he's doing his whole thing. I'm on a fucking phone call with him three weeks ago as I'm driving to a meeting with Kellogg's, the cereal company. And I'm. Because he emailed me twice to ask for, hey, I want to like figure out how to get brand deals, more brand deals. Like, it's either you're doing it or you're not. Everybody, like, enough of the blame. Like, either you're doing it or not. So that's. What would I say, Jump, go for it. But have a plan, you know? Alyssa, how are you?
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E
I'm doing well, how are you?
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A
Good. Where are you from?
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E
I'm from Virginia beach and I am a 25 year old who's been doing business for years. So this part really resonated with me.
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A
I'm happy. What's cooking?
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E
All right, so I read your book. I've got my Decisive Duck Squishy. And I actually went and got a booth at Podcast Summit because I've read your kissing booth style at the end of your book.
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A
Yes.
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E
Now, I wanted to know if you have any suggestions for. Of course, now I have the vending booth. I'll actually be live launching my software called Plug Machine at the time, which is really white label of go high level. But I wanted to know if you had any advice because we did decide to get that based on your book.
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A
I love it. So what are you trying to accomplish there?
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E
The goal is more of a launch for the program that we're having, Plug Machine, because everybody in that Community has a podcast, will need some type of landing page. Our full business is funnel building, so we're going to have the templates already built out and so that be able to buy.
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A
So the first piece of advice by far is to film the entire execution. Got it. So I see, I see the glasses, but if you can get someone. Where, where is this event?
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E
It'll be in Atlanta.
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A
Okay, great. Anybody who's watching? Who's in Atlanta? What's your Instagram?
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E
Carlissa? C U, R L, Y S, S, A.
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A
So like your last name but with a C. Correct.
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E
First name. With a C. All right.
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Can somebody put that mods? Can you hit that? It's her first name, but with a C. That's your Instagram C. Alyssa.
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E
C U, R L, Y O.
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C U R. Yes.
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E
Like curl. Lissa.
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C U R L Y, S, S A beautiful everybody. Somebody who's in Atlanta who's willing to either if they have a camera or with an iPhone, just film the entire booth the entire day. You're a straight grinder. You're a straight fucking grinder. You're just excited to fucking go and stand there and film every interaction. Hit up Krilissa or Alyssa and see if you guys can connect. That's what I would definitely do. That'd be the first thing for sure. Because you need those clips and because you know you're being filmed, when you get the first people coming in and explain it, explain it to them. But also know to get your entire thesis out, because you're going to post those things on LinkedIn and on YouTube shorts, because those are going to be platforms that are going to lead to opportunity.
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E
That makes sense.
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A
The biggest thing, when you're in a live event, especially a B2B event, like you're going to be at the two core things you're trying to accomplish is, number one, you're trying to film everything. So it's a production day for your content. Every live event, whether you're B2B or B2C, is now a production day for your social media content. Got it? Yes. Number two, you're trying to make very deep relationships, one on one relationships with 5, 10, 15 people that can change the course your game because of it, you know? Yes. So that's it. That's what I would recommend.
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E
Thank you so much.
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A
You're welcome. Have the best day. Aaron, rattle off a couple questions.
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B
All right. Question from Joe. How do you maintain focus on one project when you're so excited about six others? I tend to squirrel way too much and my Attention is divided between several projects and nothing gets done.
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A
Discipline, like, I don't know. Like. Like, you know. But also not demonizing yourself. I get pretty creative, too. I can deviate myself. I like spinning seven plates. I just don't cry when five of them break. If you're gonna add it out, you can't beat yourself up for living your true life. So I'm giving the answer, but I don't live that answer all the time. Sometimes I don't see things all the way through because I want to fucking suck. Spin six other plates. I got that off. I got that feeling off. I scratched that itch. I got that nut off. I did that. But I'm okay with five of the plates breaking. Cause I realized that's what I'm doing it for. The excitement of the creativity of nine other things. I don't believe that I'm superhuman and can make seven things work at the same time. And I'm 25 years into my career now, 30 years into my career now. And I have trusted partners. My brother aj, you know, Brandon, Warren Warnicke, Eric Wattenberg, not to mention all of you on the thing. Like, I have infrastructure around me now, which allows me to do more things. But I used to have none of that. I didn't have an admin for the first 15, 10 years of my career. You know, not even an admin. I had to do my own calendar. I had to, like. So, like, you just build up. But if you're gonna jump to a bunch of different things and not be disciplined, don't be disappointed. Something failed. Because if you're gonna need something to succeed, you gotta put in time and effort. Nothing on earth has ever happened without time or effort. Nothing. Not being a good parent, not being good at a sport, not creating a company, not getting views consistently as a creator or influencer. There's not one fucking thing that has ever happened that has been meaningfully successful for a period of time that has happened without consistency and effort and work and do you know, Aaron, do you want to hear something crazy? These motherfuckers don't want that to be the case. But there's no fucking Ozempic in real life. In real life, building shit. In business, in fucking building. There's no Ozempic. Sorry. There's no fucking Ozempic in building a career or a business or something meaningful. Sorry. I'm sorry. I get it. I wish I could get A's in school. I wanted to get A's. I didn't want to get F's it's not fun to get grounded every three months. It's not fun for grown ups to shit on you. 24, 7. From the ages of 8 to 18. It wasn't fun for me. I wish I could get aced. There was a problem. I never opened up a book. I did no studying. I did not hand it A. I did. Do you know how many book reports I did in my life? Goose egg. I did not hand them in. I heard book report. I'm like, fuck you. Do you know how I did my tests? I'm old, G. I don't know if you guys still do. They still do. They have Scantron. Still like ab. Good. You know how I did Scantron? Let me show I can take a test in high school right now. That's how prepared I was back then. Ready? Here you go. Abccc, dba, C, A, B, P, P, C, A, B. I'm out. I'm fucking out. That was me. That's how I took tests in high school. Bcp. A, C, C, B, A, B, C, A, B, C, C, B. I'm out. And you know what happened, Aaron? I'd get it back and I'd get a 24. I'd get a 24. That's what fucking happened. Because I didn't put in the work. Cause I wasn't like a lot of you who, like, you know, paid attention in class and studied, like. And that's why I failed and sucked. You saw the report card. 243 out of 50. I was 243rd best out of 254 kids in my class earned because I was lazy in that thing. Because I kind of was smart and realized it meant nothing. And that's how real life is. Mike hasn't made any more revenue because he didn't drive to LBi and get more stuff and then go live again. Like. It's not complicated. That is why Mike did not make more money. What's that, Mike? It's a really good point. It's a great point. Mike, I don't know if you know this, but if you don't do it, you don't get the money. You can't just sit there and lay in bed and scroll and the money just shows up. There's no get rich quick scheme. You. There's no secret. It's called work me. Jesus Christ. Robert Minchu on the show.
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F
What's going on, Vic?
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A
What's up, my man? I'm good, bro. I'm fired up. These don't want to work, Robert, bro.
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F
I'M telling you. I'm telling you, man, you don't even realize I've been emailing, texting, and guess what? I'm here, bro. You just got to keep it up, man.
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A
That's all you got to do, 100%. How. Where are you from, bro?
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F
Birmingham, Alabama.
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My man. How can I. Yes, sir.
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F
Just real quick, as you know, you may not know, but on. On whatnot, then my little icon is the hustling hamster, bro. Out here hustling, getting it, so. But. But I'm hustling at the wrong things. I gotta know, like. Like, how do I figure out my passion?
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A
Well, what do you like?
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F
Like, I'm. Bro, that's just it. I like everything for. For a short moment of time. You understand what I'm saying?
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Like, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Let's stop right there, all right? It sounds like passion and what you think you can make money in are two different things.
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F
Okay, got it, Got it.
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I'm talking about Robert the dude, not the guy who's trying to figure out where he can make his money. Talk to me about you, like, at night, on the weekends, during holidays, like, what do you want to do? Do you want to drink beer? Do you want to watch nascar? Do you want to fucking surf? Do you fucking want to play video? Like, you as a human? What fucking do you get excited about? Because, you know, I'll give you, like, Vee Friends. What I'm doing right now with Vee Friends is me living my biggest truth. I love collectibles and, like, flipping stuff and, like, building universe and creativity and, like, I'm living it. I love marketing. I learned when I was building my daddy's store that it wasn't the liquor selling that I liked. It was figuring out ways to get people to buy it. So then I did VaynerMedia. Got it. Like, I need to know what is fun for you. It is fun for me to come up with ideas for business and slogans and strategies, but if I need that guard. If landscaping was where all the money was in the world, and I was like, oh, I'm gonna do landscaping. I wouldn't like it because I don't fucking like mowing lawns. And by the way, a lot of my fucking buddies do, right? They live for fucking Saturday. They're like, gary, you fucking see my grass? I'm like, I don't give a fuck about your grass. They're like, but my shit's so green. Look at my neighbor. It's like brown. And they can't wa to fucking pop a fucking Budweiser and drink the fuck out of it and put on some fucking earpods and listen to Bon fucking Jovi and Bruce Springsteen and fucking mow that lawn like nobody's fucking. I have buddies, literally. I mean, this, I grew up with these kids. I talk to them that are literally can't wait for fucking this Saturday to fucking drink four and a half Bud Lights while listening to to Rascal frats while they mow the out of their lawn. And I'm telling you right now, if you told me that's what I had to do for life, I would take a knife and stab it through my throat.
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I got you. I got you.
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So I want to know what you give a about.
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So, so that's, that's the thing, bro. Like, what I, what I care about is, is the profit. Like, I'm always trying to figure out the next way. Like, that is what I enjoy. That's what I'm talking about to my friends is trying to figure out what can we do next?
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Well, let me tell you what you should do next. You should download Lovable and you should make apps.
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F
Okay?
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That's it. I've literally changed your life, Robert. Stay disciplined. Never waver. If you fuck with me like that, give me one year of fucking becoming obsessed with how to use Lovable to make apps and put out apps that charge a dollar a month and try to get one to fucking work.
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F
Okay? All right, all right. I'm in there, bro.
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I appreciate caring about what's next, but once you understand what's next, bro, here's what's next. AI blockchain and live streaming on the Internet. Whether brand building or selling, I just gave you the answer of what's next. That is the next four years, right? So now do something within it.
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F
Yeah, yeah, bro. Like, I, I.
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It's lovable.dev right? Right. I just want to get. Oh, yeah. I want to get a pin for everyone.
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F
Okay?
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So, bro, I just told you what the is next.
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F
I, I appreciate that because it's, it's always just been like, you know, I, I dropped out of high school to take care of my family. Like, we, we kind of have, like the same, like, I love got to take care of your moms, you know, I love it.
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I respect it.
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And it's been hustle hustle city since then, and it's always been, like, about the making the dollar, and now it's just got about. I got to figure out what that passion is. I got to figure out what about.
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What about hobbies real quick, just real quick. What are your favorite? Like, what do you watch? Movies, Sports? Like, what do you listen, like, help me.
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F
No, like, like that. That. That's the crazy thing. Like, that's the thing that's driving me crazy is I don't. Like my hobby is learning. Like, I love to learn different things. I'm out here on chat gbt trying to figure out like, what, what's going on.
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So, so why don't, why don't, why don't you fucking start a twitch channel and talk about fucking your like, call it Alabama fucking learnings and just fucking sit there and talk about shit for an hour and share your screen. Why don't you go live sharing your screen while you're learning? Like, come learn with me. That's what I'm thinking about doing. One of the things I'm contemplating in 26 is going live in the evenings. I told Sid this yesterday. I'm gonna call it winding down. Get it? Winding down. Little wind. You like that? I like tea with. I wanna bookend everybody's day. I wanna be tea with garyvee in the morning and wine ding down with garyvee at night. And I'm just gonna fucking. And my slogan's gonna be like. And you fucking have to figure out the middle. That's gonna be me. I got you in the morning and I got you at night and you gotta figure out the middle. That's gonna be my slogan. Gary B 2026, vote for me. You figure out the middle. Gary 2026 T with GaryVee and winding down with garyvee and you gotta figure out the middle.
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F
I love it, bro. I'll be your first subscriber. I'm in there, bro.
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Bro, listen to me. You've got to do the same thing. You've got to learn how to like, you got to use chatgpt to learn how to get a proper little. And by the way, Courtney's putting out content about how to set up your live. Or Courtney's fucking out here hustling trying to build her brand on. Let me teach you beginners how to set up a livestream sitch. Once you get that right, bro, your night should be put on some music or not candles. What are the fucking insets? Whatever the fuck gets you going. Put on your fucking. Get your fucking screen live. And here's what it's going to look like. You're going to have six, six, three, two and a half viewers at first and you're gonna build. Aiden Ross and Kai Said had two viewers at first. Me too. That's how it is. And you're gonna fucking. I'm teaching and I'm teaching. And people are attracted to people that are like them. There's a bunch of country boys that are gonna fuck with you way more than somebody else. Cause you're them and they're you. And they're gonna fucking like hanging with you. Like when I make my wrestling and sports references, root beer, garage sales. People that are into that stuff are into it. People that are a little more quiet, more reserved, maybe high class life, maybe literature. They may not connect with me as much. The interests don't align. But everybody has an audience. Everybody has an audience.