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Episode: Listen To This If You Want To Be An Influencer In 2025
Date: September 29, 2025
Host: Gary Vaynerchuk

Episode Overview

In this dynamic and unscripted Q&A-focused episode, Gary Vaynerchuk (GaryVee) addresses a community of creators, parents, entrepreneurs, and influencers about the evolving landscape of influencer marketing and content creation—especially as we approach 2025. He shares strategic advice on breaking through heightened competition, algorithm changes, live shopping, monetization pathways, and maintaining authenticity in the age of AI influencers. The episode is rich with practical, actionable guidance for anyone serious about growing and sustaining influence, cutting through vanity metrics, and building a personal brand or business that matters.

Main Themes & Discussion Points

1. The State of Influencer/Creator Marketing in 2025

• Increased Competition & AI Creators:
  Gary predicts that soon, every person and even AI entities will function as influencers, making the space even more crowded and competitive.

  “We’re gonna wake up in a couple years, not only will every human be an influencer or creator, but there’s gonna be AI influencers.” (02:00)

• Emphasis on Community Building:
  Gary plans to establish tighter communities through recurring Q&A sessions to drive deeper value and networking among creators.

  “I want to build a little bit more of a community around this. Cause I think the stakes are getting higher and it’s getting harder to break out.” (02:48)

2. Practical Q&A Segments & Tactical Advice

On Diversifying Content and Platforms

• Algorithmic Shifts Favor Content over Follower Count:
  The game has shifted from page-centric to content-centric—a single post can go viral regardless of following size.

  “The algorithm change of the last three years has taken this completely out of the equation. The following is now a vanity thing...” (09:57)

  Timestamp: [09:57–10:52]

• Strategic Use of Multiple Pages:
  It’s viable to experiment with multiple, even niche pages; the focus should always be on quality content, not consolidation for follower metrics.

On Gratitude and Personal Motivation

• Daily Gratitude:
  Gary stresses keeping gratitude simple—being thankful for the health and presence of loved ones.

  "I am grateful every day that I wake up and nobody that I love passed away. I keep it simple." (11:13)

On Monetization through New Channels

• Monetizing Through Platform Revenue:
  True financial gain via platform revenue shares (ads, bonuses) requires massive scale—think MrBeast-level.

  “The size and scale you need to be at in views to actually make your monetization from the platforms...is very large.” (13:05)

• Building Brand for Off-Platform Monetization:
  Shift focus to leveraging organic growth for monetizing via products, books, speaking, and consulting—because brand deals and product launches often provide more realistic, scalable income.
  Timestamp: [13:03–14:20]

On Focus vs. Experimentation

• Deciding When to Focus or Diversify:
  Gary urges listeners to define success for themselves:

  “I am not trying to maximize fame or money. I’m trying to maximize me being happy.” (16:11)

  • Sometimes focus is crucial for foundational growth; at other times, creative risk/reinvention matters more.
  • “Some days, some weeks, some months and even some years are just a reset or you’re focused on something else...” (20:56) Timestamp: [16:11–21:15]

On Live Shopping and Product Creation

• Live Commerce as the Next Big Thing:
  Gary evangelizes "TikTok Shop" and live shopping platforms (e.g., Whatnot) as underused opportunities for creators to launch and build sustainable businesses.

  "Live shopping is what social media was 10 years ago. It’s really big, and it’s about to explode.” (24:53) Timestamp: [24:53–25:15, 27:28–34:17]

• Product Ideas for Niche Audiences:
  Example: A family of "tall creators" should consider launching a product specifically for tall people, not necessarily apparel, leveraging their unique brand.

On Parenting as an Influencer/Creator

• Balancing Vulnerability, Privacy, and Curation:
  There’s no “one right way,” says Gary—follow your intuition (or “primary brain”—the gut), and don’t post for the algorithm over your own sense of authenticity.

  “There’s no right answer. There’s right answers for you at right times...So, Maddie, if you feel it, don’t use your secondary brain to talk you out of it.” (29:31–32:12)

• Kids in Content:
  Be mindful about your child’s exposure—and be willing to pivot if you sense it doesn’t suit them, regardless of audience reaction.

• Navigating “Balance” and Guilt:

  “Work-life balance, by whose standard? Who gets to decide?...There’s no perfect system. You gotta just do the best you can and react to the truth of the situation.” (50:39)

On Brand Deals: Getting Noticed and Taking Action

• Proactive Outreach:
  Don’t wait for brand deals—initiate DM outreach to brands you genuinely use and love.

  “Literally, you DMing every single product that’s in your house and saying, hey, Twizzlers...You’d be stunned…if you literally just started with everything your family uses.” (37:15)

  • Use ChatGPT to help with outreach logistics (“get the IG handles for the top 25 ice cream brands in America”) ([39:10])
  • Simple messages—photos and honest endorsements—go a long way.

  Timestamp: [35:25–39:38]

On Handling Criticism & Controversy

• Contextualizing “Hot Takes”:
  Phrase opinions as personal points of view, not universal truths. Lean into humility via “wordsmithing.”

  “As long as you don’t deploy...like, to me, it’s wordsmithing. Right? If you’re like, hey, this is what works for me and my family, then it’s literally wordsmithing.” (44:09)

• Staying Calm about Misrepresentation:

  “It is scary to me how good my intent is while watching some people try to take me out of context for their vested interest. Fascinating. But I’m okay with it..." (45:15)

• Ultimate Perspective:
  Focus on your inner circle (“the 20 people closest to me in life...”), not strangers’ opinions ([47:20]).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Authenticity and Reinvention:

  “Do your thing. Because I’m telling you, when you’re 90, you’re gonna be sad if you didn’t do the thing that’s in your stomach.” (08:50)

• On Gratitude:

  “I only leave gratitude for health. Everything else is manageable.” (11:24)

• On Platform Shifts:

  “The following is now a vanity thing more than — I believe, in the next 24 months, they’re gonna eliminate even your followers as a reason for the content to be seen.” (10:00)

• On Brand Outreach:

  “If you pour yourself a bowl of f–ing Cheerios and take a photo and DM them, you have 700,000 followers…it’s gonna catch the attention of brand managers." (37:30)

• On Taking a Break as a Creator:

  "If you don’t wanna post for a day or a year, then that’s going to be important...” (40:39)

• On Dealing with Controversy:

  “As long as the people that actually know me, for me, I’m very focused on something very specific. The more you actually know me, I wanna make sure you like and respect me more. I can deal with judgment of strangers and it just becomes practice.” (45:15)

Key Timestamps

• 00:00–03:30: Gary’s thoughts on the rise of creators, intention to build a deeper community, and personal updates
• 05:37–09:14: Why Gary created a cartoon for kids (Veefriends); encouragement to pursue authentic projects
• 09:18–10:52: Algorithm changes, the decline of follower count importance
• 13:05–14:20: Monetization realities and off-platform opportunities
• 16:11–21:15: Focus vs. experimenting, defining what success means for you
• 24:53–25:15, 27:28–34:17: Lessons on live shopping, TikTok shop, and creator product launches
• 29:31–32:12: Raw vs. curated content, intuition, and authenticity
• 35:25–39:38: Brand deals advice, including actionable steps for outreach
• 44:09–47:20: Handling controversy and staying firm on personal intent

Final Thoughts & Community Call

Gary wraps the session by committing to more frequent, small-group interactions for deeper value and expresses gratitude for the supportive community. He reiterates that the path to influence lies in authenticity, community-building, proactive experimentation, and relentless execution—regardless of algorithmic shifts or the opinions of the crowd.

“I hope this brought you value. I know that my answers are also helping everyone. So it’s good we’re all dealing with similar things, but slightly different. So thank you and I hope to see you soon and I wish you nothing but the best.” (52:34)

For aspiring and working influencers in 2025: This episode serves as a playbook for staying ahead through authenticity, tactical experimentation, and keeping focused on what matters most.