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Gary Vaynerchuk
I keep my life very simple. If my family is healthy, everything else is so secondary. Even my professional career, everything else is secondary.
Joe Rogan
I feel like it all comes down to quality of life. Right?
Gary Vaynerchuk
Yeah. And everybody gets to define it differently. I actually think we're all screwing it up and making it too complicated. Things, stuff, clout. Yeah, I think, I think it's scary to me how passionate I am for to spit in this mic to everyone who's listening, like, simplify your stuff. Simplify. Because here's my thing. I, I know a lot of people that are winning in life, fame, money. And so many of them are not happy that I'm like, this isn't it.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Gary Vaynerchuk
And even the ones that are happy when something bad happens, like they lose a parent or something, even worse, a child, which is the scariest thing, they're wrecked. So I'm like, wait a minute. If this is life, the hell am I worried about anything other than the health and well being of like my circle, my family, the friends that have become my family. I'm just detached from the garyvee, from the money, from the notoriety. I'm grateful for it. I want to play. It's like a, it's like a game when I, if we, if you all, like now we're playing pickup basketball.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Gary Vaynerchuk
I'm going to try so hard, but that's how I think about life and business. Like it's a game I'm going to try, but I'm going to keep my shit simple. What'd you say on this if you were broke? I feel like it's so easy to say, you know what I mean? And I think it's so easy to say what you just did because what you're doing right now is the right question. This is the point of what I'm trying to make. The thousands of people that knew me when I didn't have a dollar in my name until I got to like 35, 36 will tell you I believed in more back then than I even do now. I know. Like, let me ask you a real, real question. Do you know people that don't have a ton of money, that are happy? Yeah, kind of. Okay. I mean, at the same time, they can't buy what they want to buy, so I guess they have to settle. Honestly, I don't think of it that way. I think that, I think I. Listen, let me frame. I think you're bringing up the proper context of the culture we live in. But I just do, you know, because I grew up with, in such nothing Circumstances. The majority of my friends are not wealthy. And I know the ones that are bitter about it. Like, fuck this shit. All of that. Right? You know, And I know a lot of friends fucking this up.
Joe Rogan
He's been for one minute.
Gary Vaynerchuk
No, actually. You know what's so crazy? You know what's so crazy? You know what's so funny? He's going to the best part, actually.
Joe Rogan
Okay, good.
Gary Vaynerchuk
Yeah, he's doing it.
Joe Rogan
Okay. You might get a raise there. Let's see where that goes.
Gary Vaynerchuk
It's super real. Like, it's. It's the question, it's the conversation. The only people that think money is the gateway to happiness are the ones that haven't seen it or lived it at scale.
Joe Rogan
It's a great point.
Gary Vaynerchuk
It's just the way it is. Like, I didn't know the reason I'm the way I am is because my mom was so gangster. Awesome. And we had so little growing up. I just was always happy. So I knew by the time I was grown the money wasn't it. I've been happy. I am happy. You know what I mean?
Joe Rogan
I was having this conversation with something earlier, actually, and we were talking about how we're both kind of in the process of, you know, trying to renegotiate contracts or syndication thing. And I was like. It's so funny though, because prior to the money, I was so happy as well. Like, I was. I didn't think about financial. I don't know anything.
Gary Vaynerchuk
What Diddy and Biggie tried to tell us a long time ago.
Joe Rogan
Very true.
Gary Vaynerchuk
More money, more problems. It's much scarier to go backwards than the alternative. The reason people are stressed when they get somewhere is coming down.
Joe Rogan
You don't want to lose it.
Gary Vaynerchuk
Of course, I have a friend who cries about not sitting courtside at basketball games anymore because he can't afford it. So he sits third row and he cries about it because he tasted it and so now he's fucked up.
Podcast Summary: "MicroVee: If You Think Money Will Make You Happy, Listen to This"
Podcast Information:
[00:00] Gary Vaynerchuk:
Gary opens the conversation by emphasizing the simplicity he maintains in his life. He prioritizes his family's health above all else, considering his professional endeavors and other aspects as secondary.
"I keep my life very simple. If my family is healthy, everything else is so secondary. Even my professional career, everything else is secondary."
— Gary Vaynerchuk [00:00]
[00:08] Joe Rogan:
Joe concurs with Gary, highlighting that the essence of life boils down to the quality of one's life.
[00:10] Gary Vaynerchuk:
Gary expands on this, suggesting that many people complicate their lives with pursuits like clout and possessions. He passionately urges listeners to simplify their lives, pointing out that even those who appear to be "winning" in terms of fame and money often aren't truly happy.
"Simplify your stuff. Because here's my thing. I know a lot of people that are winning in life, fame, money. And so many of them are not happy that I'm like, this isn't it."
— Gary Vaynerchuk [00:10]
[00:42] Gary Vaynerchuk:
Gary discusses how even when successful individuals encounter personal tragedies, like losing a loved one, it devastates them, challenging the notion that wealth equates to happiness. He emphasizes that his primary concerns revolve around the well-being of his close circle rather than financial gains or fame.
"If this is life, the hell am I worried about anything other than the health and well being of like my circle, my family, the friends that have become my family."
— Gary Vaynerchuk [00:42]
[01:12] Gary Vaynerchuk:
Using the analogy of playing pickup basketball, Gary illustrates his approach to life and business. He strives to give his best effort while maintaining simplicity, detaching himself from the stress associated with money and notoriety.
"Like it's a game I'm going to try, but I'm going to keep my shit simple."
— Gary Vaynerchuk [01:12]
[01:13] Gary Vaynerchuk:
Gary reflects on the misconception that money is a direct pathway to happiness. He challenges this belief by sharing his experiences and observations, noting that those who equate money with happiness often haven't experienced it firsthand or in significant amounts.
"The only people that think money is the gateway to happiness are the ones that haven't seen it or lived it at scale."
— Gary Vaynerchuk [02:35]
[02:50] Gary Vaynerchuk:
Gary shares his upbringing in modest circumstances and how it shaped his understanding of happiness. Despite having limited financial resources during his youth, he found joy and contentment, reinforcing his belief that money isn't the sole determinant of happiness.
"I grew up with, in such nothing Circumstances. The majority of my friends are not wealthy. And I know the ones that are bitter about it... I've been happy. I am happy."
— Gary Vaynerchuk [02:50]
[03:25] Gary Vaynerchuk:
Gary touches upon the age-old adage "more money, more problems," explaining that having more resources can introduce new stresses and concerns. He argues that the pressure to maintain or increase wealth often outweighs the benefits it brings.
"More money, more problems. It's much scarier to go backwards than the alternative."
— Gary Vaynerchuk [03:29]
[03:38] Gary Vaynerchuk:
Concluding the discussion, Gary provides a poignant example of a friend who, after experiencing financial success, couldn't cope with losing privileges like sitting courtside at basketball games. This illustrates how financial success can sometimes lead to unexpected emotional struggles.
"I have a friend who cries about not sitting courtside at basketball games anymore because he can't afford it. So he sits third row and he cries about it because he tasted it and so now he's fucked up."
— Gary Vaynerchuk [03:39]
In this episode, Gary Vaynerchuk challenges the commonly held belief that money equates to happiness. Through personal anecdotes and insightful reflections, he advocates for a life centered around meaningful relationships and personal well-being over financial gains and societal status. Gary's candid discussion serves as a reminder to listeners to evaluate their own definitions of success and prioritize what truly brings lasting happiness.