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There will be AI influencers that are not real people, that are owned by entrepreneurs, that are going to get brand deals, that a lot of people that are listening right now make their money that way. And that's real life. But there was also almost 100,000 people that sold advertising in the Yellow Pages before Google put them out of business. Like, things are always happening in our society, and I think it's the same thing as always. There will be people that will learn how to use AI, and that will be good. And many great things will happen with AI. God forbid someone you two love has a disease that a normal human being. Doctor could not figure out. That AI will figure out. And you will be very happy in 17 years that AI was invented. This is the GaryVee audio experience.
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B
So we have you in the hot seat today.
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A
Is this the hot seat?
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B
Yeah.
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A
Okay.
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C
It does get hot in the studio.
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B
I think we just hop right into it. First, I have to say congratulations.
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A
Thank you.
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B
On marriage. Mona.
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A
Yes. I know she loves you too.
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B
AI.
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A
Yes.
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B
Everyone's freaking out about it. I like your positive spin on it. What's your positive spin?
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A
My positive spin is practical. I don't know if it's so positive. I think it's. This is actually nice. There's a lot of electricity in this room. Very good lighting. Do you know that when electricity was invented and, like, kind of, like, available, that most people would not bring it into their home, even though they could afford it and could. Because they demonized it. Because the word on the street was if you brought electricity into your home, it would bring demons. This is literally like, five minutes ago. This is like the literally early 1900s. You know, like, humans are scared of everything. It's what we do. Hey, everybody. Hope you're enjoying the podcast right now. Make sure you follow the podcast. That's why I'm interrupting. Let's keep going on this show, but follow the podcast. It'll make my mom super happy. Do you remember when MySpace came out and they said, don't go on it cause you're gonna get kidnapped at the mall? Like, we demonize everything. Now, look, this is a profound technology. There will be AI influencers that are not real people that are owned by entrepreneurs, that are gonna get brand deals, that a lot of people that are listening right now make their money that way. And that's real life. But there was also almost 100,000 people that sold advertising in the Yellow Pages before Google put them out of business. Like, things are always happening in our society, and I think it's the same thing as always. There will be people that will learn how to use AI, and that will be good. And many great things will happen with AI. God forbid someone you two love has a disease that a normal human being doctor could not figure out. That AI will figure out, and you will be very happy. In 17 years that AI was invented, there will be things that people don't like. Right. I'm very empathetic to people, like the robots and like this and like a police state or, you know, I'm an influencer. I make my money like this or something. Like, I don't know if people understand. Like, you two are building a podcast network that is taking money away from people that work at radio stations.
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B
Right?
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A
This is called life. There's yin and yang to everything. And more importantly. And I need everyone to hear this. It's not gonna not happen. Like, this is not a Strategy for Life. AI's coming. And everyone who's listening has a couple of decisions. Like, okay, let's go back to the influencer. Cause I think it's contextual to this. You're listening right now and you're like, fuck, Gary Vee's been right a lot, so he's probably right. I'm in trouble. You might not be in trouble. You might be a fitness influencer who happens to be attractive, who has 500,000 followers and has built this micro business. But if you're listening to me, maybe you decide to spend 30, 40 hours, 100 hours getting educated on how to create AI influencers, and you might create your AI puppy Ruff Ruff and start integrating Ruff Roof the AI dog into your content. And Ruffroof might go crazy. And. And you might make a million dollars a year from pet brands. Cause of Ruff ruff instead of $80,000 a year from supplements.
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B
It sounds like the ones that are gonna win are the ones that use it as a tool to enhance what they're already doing.
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A
Yes. Like the computer, like the Internet, like social media. Like.
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C
It sounds like you're.
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A
It's like 100 assistants.
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C
It's not gonna stop or slow down. So you might as well just.
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A
Honestly, that's my big thing. It's kind of like life. I don't know if you guys know this. Like, everybody in the room, all six of us, we're gonna die. I don't know if you know this, but we're gonna die. Yes. Good morning. We are gonna die at some point. Yes. It's stunning. My big thing is, if you know that, why not Try to live a joyful life and can we get out of all this materialistic and keeping up with the joke. You're gonna be 90 and I promise you how many likes and how many verified accounts and how many zeroes in your bank account and how many watches and how many sneake bags you have? It's not gonna be it. And so like, for me, and you guys have known me a long time, at this point, I've always been uncomfortably detached from all of the GaryVee of it and the success. Like I just wanna live a happy life and like be nice and like enjoy it and like watch my jets lose and you know, hang out with friends. And just like that philosophical point of view on life is kind of how I'm trying to get everybody to understand AI. This is gonna happen. It's happened. And you can sit there and be crippled right now, listening to the world and saying like, robots are gonna kill me, I'm gonna lose my job or something I believe in, which is. That bothers people. I believe that someone in this room's grandchildren are gonna marry an AI human.
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B
Really?
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A
Yeah. I think that lovely baby you just had the other day likely could marry an AI robot.
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B
I feel like I would sabotage that.
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I think you try until you realize the robot was way more powerful than you.
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C
Maybe I'll have a second act.
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A
It could be. It could be. What I'm saying is the world is gonna change. But I will say this. If your great great grandmother miraculously, if AI created a potion that you could put into graves and people start popping out of them and they're alive, and your great great grandmother, you were like very excited about this. And like, here it is, this new invention in 20 years, if she popped up and looked around, she'd be like, what the fuck is going on? Right? Like the world changes. Like, cavemen lived once. Like, we used to not have planes. No one had a television just 150 years ago. Like, it's like, I don't know how people don't understand evolution and like technology. Like, what do you think? Just cause you're alive right now and listening to this podcast, the world stops during your life? Shit's gonna change. The rules constantly get rewritten because of technology. And here the fuck we are.
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B
Why do you think people are so afraid of uncertainty?
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A
Because most people are insecure.
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B
Why?
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Because most people are not parented well.
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B
You think that's the root of it?
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A
I do. I think parenting is uncomfortably important.
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B
How do you think about parenting?
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A
By trying to realize I was Remarkably parented around optimism, but accountability. And I try to reenact those kind of behaviors with my children while understanding their circumstances are very different than mine. Right. My kids live a very different life than I did. You know, forget about the wealth and the technology and just like, the parenting. Like, every dynamic is different. Like, you know, the sibling count how many cousins. I had no cousins. They have unlimited cousins. Like, you know, they have a dad who's like, publicly known. My son thinks it's cool. My daughter hates it. Like, life, like, you know, like, I don't know. Like. But what I focus on is definitely what my mom did well, which was unconditional love, but not this fucking delusion shit. Like, parents overreact. Like your parents, your kids can't do everything. Telling a child you could do anything, you could be anything, actually makes them not believe you eventually.
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B
Michael can't be a basketball player, nor.
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A
Can I, but he could be a male model. Look at this fucking face. Look at this motherfucker's face.
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B
I might have missed my truck.
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A
No. You know, I find your husband very attractive. He's a good. What do you want from me? He's a good looking dude. What do you like? And so, and by the way, a lot of other people can't be a male model. And other people can be like, you know, an Olympian or a cook. Like, I, you know, Anyway, parenting has overcorrected. Most parents. Listen, the world is at its best. Companies are at their best. Relationships are at their best. The world is at its best when it's purple. And the world has gotten remarkably good in being an extremely red and extremely blue. And that is why shit's fucked up.
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C
I wanted to talk, like you said, we've known you a long time now, and you know this. We've admired you for our entire careers and just love everything you've been out there. But one of the things that we admire most, and I almost don't even need these note cards, is you have always had a perspective of focusing on the positive, even when a lot of the world and a lot of what's online focuses on the negative. To your point, red and blue. And I would love for you to share how you came to that perspective. Is that a parenting thing? And also why you think it's so, so much more productive to think that way, even though so many people are drawn to focus on that shit.
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A
It's funny how I'm like, smiling. There's not one person listening, nor in this room right now that is confused by the concept of like why it's more productive to focus on positive versus negative. Like when you're laying in your bed doom scrolling and like tearing up and being scared, like you think you're doing anything. Like what good is coming of that? Yes, it's fully parenting and the luck of DNA. Like my sister's only three and a half years younger than me. My mom parented, I watched my mom parent both of us. I'm much more positive to my sister.
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C
So what do you think? Is that three and a half year different?
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A
I think that's just DNA. Like I think my sister has a little bit more of my father and my grandma in her and I have more of my mother in me. So like DNA's real. Like DNA is real, it's part of it now. What I don't like is when people use the excuse of DNA to not work on making it better. In my DNA, I had from both of my parents and everyone in my family the complete lack of interest of working out in any shape or form. My family, I've never saw anyone in my family in my life. Yes, go to the gym. I at 38 and a half. I love that I always say half. It's like I'm six and a half at 38 and a half. I just had an epiphany of like, oh fuck, if I don't address this, I will not live to 100. I still might not. I love when people are like, well a tree could fall on your head. Yes, a tree can fall on your head. But what is guaranteed is if you eat like shit and never go to the gym and never build up muscle, that bad shit will happen. And I took it on me to some brother. I missed my workout this morning. Literally texted Mike at 6:30 and was like, I'm gonna sleep in. Cause I felt like I needed sleep. But that's my excuse. That's how much I hate the gym. Even though I've been crushing it lately, I'm pretty happy. And I'm a seven days, like. Cause if I miss a day like I did today, like now tomorrow's gonna be harder.
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C
So you don't wanna schedule three days.
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A
Ms. A day.
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B
And then you're like, yeah, I do that too. I schedule seven days. Cause then if you miss a day.
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A
Then you have a lot of I'm seven, I'm seven. But, but I'm not, you know, for all the health and wellness nerds, like, you know, one day's a stretch day. Like I'm doing like, you know, fascia work. Like, it's not seven days of weights. Cause your body can break down.
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C
You're just doing something active.
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A
Yes, but I. Even though my DNA, like this morning wants to be a puss when it comes to going to the gym. I've worked hard for 12 years and now it's a real part of my life. And I massively felt the benefits of it. I would. I am so thrilled that I did this. Forget about, like, the vanity of your physical. Like, how you feel. Just, like, I'm so much healthier. I had Ql issues, my blood pressure. Like, and now with Mona, like, completely changing, like, I don't eat. Like Mona. Mona is the most disciplined eater on earth.
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B
On Earth.
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A
On earth.
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B
On earth. Actually, I've met a lot of disciplined eaters. She's the most disciplined.
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A
No, no, you don't understand the things we do. Like, give us a. I can imagine.
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B
Tell us some things that you do.
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A
We go two hours out of our way on the way to the airport and have to wake up at 5 instead of 7 to get, like, parsnip based cream cheese in some random neighborhood where some, like, psycho hippie lady makes it and you have to show up at like, six. Like, our life revolves around Mona's access to clean.
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B
But she also, I think too. And I think you've talked about this before. Doesn't she, like, turn your WI fi off at night now?
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Oh, yeah. Clean. Like, like the deodorant I'm wearing right now has no scent. Yeah. Like, I go, like, when I travel right now, like to a hotel and, like, have the shampoo that's in there, like, now it smells like, insane to me. Before it wasn't even on my mind. That's crazy.
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C
That happened to me too. Cause she doesn't wear.
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B
Because when you clean up the environment, you start to notice how many toxins there are in it.
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C
You know, the craziest is getting in Ubers.
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B
Out of all the people in the world to, like, have this happen to them. It is so fucking funny that it's happened to you because she cleaned up your entire environment and now you're sensitive to shampoos in a hotel. Yeah, that's amazing.
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A
But I'm also not as disciplined as her. Like, I happily ate every little appetizer that was given to me last night at this bougie private equity event I went to. And, like, all of it would make Mona's head spin of, like, anger. Like, meaning, like, I'm so much better. But anyway, long winded way to say my DNA is my DNA. But I've put in real work on the things that have not come natural to me. Eating, discipline, gym, candor. I've talked a lot about that. We think we talked about that on the last time. I can now be candorous with my employees. In a world where I used to hate, that doesn't come natural to me to tell people what they're not good at. I try to go around it and make it better. So I'm now in a place in my life where I've won over things that don't come natural to me, which then makes me passionate to go on podcasts like this and put out content saying you can change. Like, if you're laying right now and you're cynical and negative, if you recalibrate what you listen to, who you hang out with, what you do over a course of a year, five years, 10 years, you can change. People change. If people didn't change, I would not make content. Oh, actually, I've never said that before. That was. That actually just. I felt that was cool. That's right. If people did not have the ability to change, I would not be known in any shape or form because I would not be intoxicated like I am to say something that can change the course of someone's life. Do you know what it feels like every time I see you?
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B
It's probably cool because I literally started this blog reading your book.
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A
I know that it's emotional to me.
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C
For us, on our side, maybe in a different way.
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Correct. In the way that I feel about my mom when I see her, which is like, you are the architect of all of this. I get all the flowers, but the reason I'm completely detached from Gary Vee or that I use humility as my superpower is because I actually don't believe I'm anything other than what my mom created. One of the reasons I like getting flowers is in my brain and my soul. It's like, gary, you're the best. And I'm like, tamara, you're the best.
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B
It's probably cool, too, to see people who have applied your formula and the formula works. That's probably the coolest thing.
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A
Well, let's get into the real stuff. What about on a weekly basis? People that are telling me about how deep they were into drug abuse, alcohol abuse, suicidal thoughts. Do you know how many men over the last 10 years have told me they've stopped physically abusing their woman because of my content? Whoa. Do you know what that feels like? You guys know me. I have no interest in the Rolex, in the Lambo, in the private jet. Like, as the entrepreneurs go, and as one of the OGs of them all, and so many derivatives of what happened. Most are different than me. Most want the stuff, most need the stuff. I don't judge, by the way. God bless. I'm pumped for people that get off on having a Porsche or a Lambo. I always tell those friends, why do you want it? Which, by the way, you know, like, are you using it because you're insecure with girls and you think you need it to get them? Are you insecure with the world and you want to show the world, fuck you, I made it. Or do you just genuinely like the horsepower of your Porsche and that's your toy? The same way I like jets jerseys. Like, I don't know, but I wonder.
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C
Why, as a man, you are one of the people that got me as a young guy to stop thinking about that kind of stuff in that kind of way.
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For sure.
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That is true.
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100%.
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B
That is true. Because that is true. Thank God.
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C
I had a quarter life crisis. But I think a lot of guys, especially men, they, you know, you get enticed by the thing because you think it's a flex that is then going to help you get the girl or the accolades or the whatever it is.
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That's right.
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You chase those things, and you quickly realize that there's no fulfillment in those things.
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It's short.
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C
It's short.
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A
It's short and it's a vulnerability. And to me, I want to get to the crux, which is it's a pattern you'll keep repeating unless you understand what's really in there. And the answer is it's insecurity. And I do think it's parenting. I do think it's societal. Like, you know, America, for example, is a very mature empire. You know, mature empires get vulnerable because we start worrying about dumb shit because we're not worried about basic shit. When you're a Third world country, you're worried about food. You know, like, I'm on the board of Pencils of Promise and Water. Those are my two foundational nonprofits. You just drank that Saratoga. There's 880 million people. I really need everyone to, like, really lock in here. If you're on the podcast, like, slow down your treadmill. There's 880 million people on Earth that do not have access to clean water. There's 10% of the humans that walk Earth right now cannot get to clean water within four hours. Literally. As we Sit here right now, there is a woman, a 60 year old woman with a fucking ceramic pot. Do you know how heavy a ceramic pot is on her head? Walking for four miles in the heat to get clean water because she has a 13 year old daughter who's gonna have her period and she needs clean water so she doesn't fucking die. And we're worried about like what milk went into our fucking Starbucks or how many followers we got this week or like, like this is how I'm structured. Like, I cannot complain if my, if the algo, like our world. Like, Gary, like the algorithm's fucking. I'm shadow banned. I'm not getting as many views. You're not shadow banned. Your content is tired and stale and you fucking suck at social right now. And you once were good at it. No one's shadow banned. It's that you are not interesting to people right now. And that's okay. I've gone through that. I've gone through. Like, I laugh. Like, do you know how much I laugh when people come up? Like, strangers will walk up to me at the airport and be like, I'm 80, I'm still young. Like, I've made my points on a lot of stuff. I appreciate the people that skipped this podcast. Your podcast, your fans, when they see my name on here because they're like, well, I've heard the other two and like, like I've seen his. Like, I don't need to listen to it. That doesn't bother me, right? Like, it's not how I think about things. It's not outside validation. It's not these vanity metrics. We've become incredibly materialistic. And again, I love when people appreciate things. Like, I really love my baseball cards, right? Like, I love them, I know them. Fashion, right? Like Mona, like, will look at shit for four. She's fascinated by the craftsmanship or like what, what it would look like, that's fine. But needing a fucking Prada bag to make people think you're that person. That's what I'm worried about.
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C
It's the thinking that the thing is going to convince people that you are a value of that thing.
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Yes.
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That your value is tied to whatever material thing.
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A
Everyone's stuck in middle school forever. Everyone's stuck in fucking middle school. Who gives a fuck if someone doesn't like you? That means. Now, couple things, let me break that down. Who gives a fuck if someone doesn't like you? If you know you're a good person and many others like you, then you're good. Now if no one likes you, you got a problem. It means you're bad. Like, means you're insecure. It means like, like it's not the world's fault. I said something yesterday that made me laugh. I was like, if you've been fired four times in a row now, like you're the problem. Like. Cause you know, people love a good blaming the boss. I've had people literally steal from me and then all the employees just think I was bad for firing them because they made up some bullshit story and I didn't want to put their fucking stealing on blast.
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B
How do you deal with managing all those employees? You have a lot of employees. I talked to you about this off air. What's the strategy?
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Intent? Yeah, is a big one for me. Like, my intent is to build a good, healthy organization that rewards people that are excelling in effort or output. I also have a lot of grace. Like, I'm very anti firing. I'm into fixing, but I've gotten better at being okay with firing. That was my weakness in my 20s and 30s, you know, everything was family. Now I call it family business, not like a family business because, you know, at the end of the day, like, you know, I wouldn't. I don't fire my sister. So like, you know, just all these things I've learned along the way, but like, you know, trying to build demand and top line revenue, trying to build systems of accountability, but creating a culture of kind candor. Want people to feel safe. At Vayner, I love making people feel safe. I have to be careful because my big vulnerability is superhero syndrome where I'm just gonna take care of everything. So that's something I try to watch out for.
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B
One of the things that I love most about you that I think is so attractive is that you're so comfortable with your energy and yourself. How would you tell people to get to that place?
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A
Listen, this has been the theme of this talk. This is why it's fun to continue to show up to places that are home. So it's nice to be with you guys. You never know where the combo will actually go. This is the theme of today. Like, I don't know how to break through to all of you that are listening, but I desperately ask you, deeply, I pray on you, like deeply, I ask you, you've got to understand that everybody else sucks too. That's the yes. That's the answer.
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B
What do you mean?
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Meaning, like, why are you nitpicking? Why am I comfortable with myself? Because I like myself and I'm Very accountable that I have very many shortcomings because I don't know, I'm a human. Like, all of you have many shortcomings. Many. And she reminds you of all of yours constantly. Yeah, yeah. You just get told. And I promise all of you, everyone is short. Whoever you admire the most. My sister definitely put me on an uncomfortably big pedestal. I was a. I'm very. I'm knocking on wood. I don't know why I'm so grateful. I was a very good big brother.
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C
I think that happens. But I have a sister three years younger. I think that happens.
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Yeah. Especially if you're a good person. And I really did right by my sister. And we have like 13 of those classic stories of things that I'm very proud of. But I got happy in the last 10 years where my sister started to see me for having some shortcomings. That was good for me. I was happy for her because I think the most unhappy people. And not that my sister was so unhappy, but I know her unhappiness was grounded in her putting me and my mom on a pedestal that was too high. And I ask all of you to put no one on a pedestal. Even if. Listen, I put people on pedestals, but not too high. Like, you know this. I talk about my. I already done it multiple times. I think my mom is like the single best mother of all time. And yet I'm very aware of her shortcomings. Many she passed on to me DNA wise. And so why am I comfortable? It's because I know everyone else has shortcomings too. And I also know I have no negative intent towards others.
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B
What are your shortcomings?
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Candor. Candor has been the kryptonite of my life.
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B
What do you mean?
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C
Candor and being able to tell people.
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What you really think. Yeah. Which is bananas because as a public figure, it's my ultimate strength. Because when I'm on this podcast, I'm talking to 8.3 billion people.
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B
Okay.
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That's our listener base.
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A
Even you guys have now crossed over into a friendship place where it would be harder for me to tell you something real.
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C
I need to pick your brain after this.
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A
It'll be pretty.
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B
Don't say pick your brain. I hate when people say that.
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A
Don't say that.
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B
That's not the right thing.
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C
Pick your mind.
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A
No, say pick your brain. She says dumb shit, too. Yeah. You're like, oh, don't build him up too. I know her so well. She's like, don't do it, Gary. Don't do it. Yeah. Yeah, Candor crushed me. Everything bad in my life, in my life, personally and professionally, was because I was not able to tell someone I cared for what I actually thought. And I tried to get around it, and I tried to figure it out and put it all on me without realizing resentment was being built. And my issues in my life, you know, have been around that. And then, you know, about five, six, seven, eight, maybe eight years ago, it started to really come to a head in both my professional and personal life. I realized my company had become entitled.
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C
I want to talk to you about that, Ricky.
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A
I realized some of my relationships were not where they needed to be. And, you know, at 42, 43, I was like, oh, it was actually great. This is what I wish on everyone. I wish everyone can face their truth. And so candor has been massive. I use kryptonite because I do think I was uncomfortably blessed with DNA and parenting and circumstance. You know, not only did I have the greatest mother who gave me all of her great traits, and I took my dad's best traits. It's a big joke in my family that I was first, and I just kind of rolled up on my mom and dad and just took all their best shit because I was first. And, like, really, I, you know, I really am. It's really wild. Like, you know, I speak about this, like, detached from it, but it is very clear if you knew everything about me, like, if we hang out in heaven where you can get every answer, if there was some AI graph up there that was like, what did Gary take from his parents? His parents have good and bad attributes. What did he take? It's like 98% good. Like, I took all the good shit from both. And my dad has a ton of bad shit, and I love him, but he has a lot of shortcomings. And by the way, I'm not mad at him because I knew my grandma real well and she parented him and she had those same things. And you wanna hear something even crazier? Cause everybody in Russia had kids at 20. I knew my great grandma well, and she gave it to my grandma. So I always say this. My favorite keynote speech moment, maybe of my career was at Vicon 2 or 3 2. And my opening line to the keynote, like, 10,000 people in the crowd. I'm like, I just want to start with fuck your grandparents. And, like, the crowd was, like, shook. Everyone in the crowd was like, what the fuck is going on? And my point was, a lot of you right now in the crowd are struggling because you're Mad at one of your parents and you don't have the grace or empathy or compassion to your parent to realize one of their parents did it to them.
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B
This is my favorite topic in the world. I actually have a meditation that I do about this every day. It's just having grace and forgiveness for the fact that you're right that there probably is something that the grandparent or the great grandparent, not probably there is.
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A
What your parent did to you is what one of their like. And you know what pisses me off is like you're like, oh, grandma. Cause grandma now is on the by the way, a lot of times grandma is sweet to you cause she's still fucking up her daughter or she feels guilty about. Correct. It's one of the two. It's either they're like, fuck, they're trying to make amends with you, the grandchild or believe it or not, they're still in it and they want you to side with. This is fucked up. But it's real. They want granddaughter to side with grandma on this fucking 40 year debate. So they're sweet to you. So you're like, grandma, you're the sweetest and she's giving you cookies and five bucks and she's the meanwhile, everything you're mad at in life is based on this thing you're mad at your mom for. And your poor mom got fucked by this grandma. But by the way, by the way, it's. You know why I love. It's so true, right? And you know why I'm happy right now is I know someone's in a car driving. And this might be the first. This is why I'm motivated to do what I do. I know someone's driving right now. Had never heard this concept and literally just had a bananas aha. And it's the seed that's gonna lead to them calling their mom in six months because it's gonna fester. You know, not everything's right away. And they haven't talked to her for four years. And it's gonna allow them to have amends and enjoy each other's company. They'll be rocky roads, you know, when you have a tough relationship, you know. But right now they're completely zero and they didn't realize what grandma did. And then you're gonna be like, fuck grandma. And then I'm gonna be like, no, no, no, great grandma. You didn't know great grandma Gertrude, but she was the worst of the bunch.
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B
It's about being aware.
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A
Correct.
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B
When you're aware of that, you can understand it.
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A
Being aware and awake to everything is good. Being aware is realizing if you're highly political, both sides are doing the same thing. That's being aware. They're both scaring you and telling you you're not capable. And they're gonna take care of you. Both of them. They're just scaring you on different issues.
- [30:31]
B
I think I agree.
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C
You know, when I think about you and like one of the themes of your life, I just think that like, extreme self awareness is at the top of the heap with your qualities. I mean, there's a million great qualities, but I think you're just. You have an honest assessment about yourself in the world. And I think that's a superpower for you.
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A
It allows you to grow and make impact. You guys know this. Including the three wonderful people off the camera know this. When you start to get known, people have opinions of you. There are people who have full formed opinions of me who've never met me. And I understand if you grew up in a household where over the topness and cursing were demonized, how could you possibly like me at first if your parents taught you that self promotion and be quiet. Like, you don't have to put yourself out there, which is a beautiful. Like, I. I'm literally getting. Look at this. I'm literally getting goosebumps. I think it's beautiful to say, like, your work should speak for itself and you don't have to be out. I think it's a beautiful virtue, you know, speaking in a respectful manner. Like, I think these are nice things. I am not that I am very out there. I'm very Jersey potty mouth. But it's me. And I'm okay with people misunderstanding me at first. In a world where everyone wants to be understood immediately, I do not have the audacity to think that people should understand me right away. I actually enjoy the process. Many people listening right now when they first came across me, did not like me and now really like me.
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B
That's my favorite thing ever is when you do get a judge. You judge a book by its cover and then you get to know the person and it's an onion.
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A
Correct.
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B
People are complex.
- [32:16]
C
What happens to you too all the time.
- [32:17]
B
It's my favorite thing.
- [32:18]
A
Of course.
- [32:19]
B
Let him go down the rabbit hole and see me with blonde hair and big fake tits and like, let them judge that.
- [32:24]
A
That's right.
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B
I'm actually fine with it, I think a little bit. And pardon me, gets off on it.
- [32:29]
A
Yeah, of course. Because I think you know who you are inside like again. But this is an important thing. There's a lot of people listening right now who think they're rotten inside. And I tell everyone to listen to me. You are not rotten. If your voice tells you that you are bad, someone put that voice in you. That is not your voice. Right. I said something yesterday I had never said out loud before and I'm excited to repeat it. I literally believe there's no losers in life. I really believe that. I just believe there are people that are currently losing. Right. It's like sports. Sometimes you're losing 13 to nothing. But I don't know if you've ever watched sports. Sometimes you come back and win no matter where you're at right now. Alcoholism, fired four times, $150,000 in debt. This is what's amazing about life. You actually can get out of it. And then what's crazy, if you show me someone. If someone emails me that heard this podcast ever right now when you launch it, or in 10 years, if you're a person that emails me. And because I was $150,000 debt, I battled alcoholism, I spent six months in jail. I like all these things. And now I'm here. That's the person I most admire on earth. The people I most admire are the ones that really get out of the muck, not the people that kind like me. It's kind of always been chill. Meaning my adversity was my youth fights all the time. Cause I grew up in bad neighborhoods, bad grades. Every adult said, you're gonna be a garbage man, loser. Which was funny. Cause garbage men make a lot of money more than teachers. All this other crazy stuff. By the time I got to 18, I was so beat up by every grownup, I was like, I like losing. So my life from after, like regular school life, childhood life. And don't forget, inside my house, I had nothing but love. And then selling and all the business stuff was showing me I wasn't a loser. But for me, I've kind of just cruised along like success on success, on success, happiness, enjoy. Yes. I think I'm. For some people, it might be like, ooh, I want to achieve that. But I personally am more impressed with someone who's in a real fucked up spot right now and gets to some sort of basic tangible place than I am with what I've done. And I'm not, not kidding.
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B
If you woke up tomorrow and you felt rotten inside, what would you do? What's your self talk?
- [34:54]
A
If me myself with the things I know, I would immediately say that it's not true and that somebody, especially if it's me, some evil demon lord, was able to manipulate my brain somehow. Must be like some weird Emperor Darth Vader, like, character was able to penetrate my brain or somebody slipped me, like some weird version of an AI Roofie that remixed my brain. Because I don't understand how this happened. But however it happened, someone oust I, Gary, do not think I'm rotten. Someone tricked me into thinking I'm rotten.
- [35:31]
B
So that's. If someone's listening and they feel rotten, you would tell them to understand that.
- [35:35]
A
Their mother or father likely told them they were rotten.
- [35:40]
B
So how did they get out of it?
- [35:41]
A
By realizing their mother and father was broken and they can start the process of getting out. They have to not believe them. When your mother. There are people, maybe even in this room, just six of us, and definitely people listening. There are people with parents that tell them you'll never be anything. Do you know how fucking sad that is? But I, again, do not get mad at that scene right now. I don't look at that woman or man. I feel bad for them. They are so broke. To be a parent that says that to your own child, do you know how fucking broken that person is? This is why I love negative comments in social. Do you know that most people don't post because they're scared of negative comments? And I secretly love them.
- [36:24]
B
Why do you secretly love negative comments?
- [36:26]
A
Because it gives me an opportunity to DM some of them and try to help them.
- [36:29]
B
What do you DM them?
- [36:31]
A
Like, hey, man, I saw what you just wrote. Like, first, sorry that you think I'm a scam artist, but on some real shit, like, if you're taking time to write that, like, you're clearly not in good place. Is there anything I can do for you? Literally six out of ten people are like, Whoa. And, like, pumped. And four out of ten people double down. Like, Fuck you, GaryVee. You're not gonna fucking pull your shit on me. I'm like, my shit is compassion. Like, I'm right here when you're ready. I like doing that.
- [36:56]
C
And you've always done that. I want to talk to you a little bit about entitlement.
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A
That was a great segue. And you've always done that. Now let's talk about. You're getting good at this. Thank you. You're welcome.
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C
It's only taking a thousand. No, but, you know, there's all these articles now about Gen Z and I hate to pick on young people because I know a lot of people in that generation that are really hardworking and do very well.
- [37:16]
A
I would actually argue to your point to double down just to jump in. It's actually a very wildly mixed generation because Gen Z has so many options. Gen Z is the most millionaires of a generation under 20 in the history of time because of technology. There's people working their faces off. I actually think they're just very split. Not a lot of in between. You have these gangster 19 year olds who are streaming for 19 hours a day, every day of their life or building AI businesses. And then you have the ones that are like, well, the boomers fucked it up for us. Hey, politicians take care of me.
- [37:47]
C
Yeah.
- [37:47]
B
And then I think all generations blaming.
- [37:49]
C
Each other, doing what we.
- [37:50]
A
As if. I'm sorry to interrupt, Arthur, but I just want to make this point as if we didn't have enough things that we don't like each other about. Gender wars, race, religion. This is how fucked up things are. I do not believe that people are conscious to what's happening. There are many people on earth that try to make us not like each other for their self interest, literally, as if we didn't have enough things to not like each other about. This is the first era when I was growing up, guys, I didn't even know I was in Gen X and I never heard the term boomer. I didn't know what that was. Right now you literally have Gen Z being like, you boomers fucked it up. And they're like pointing at some poor 71 year old lady was just minding her own business. She's just going to the store to buy a banana. She's like, what do you mean I ruined it?
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C
But I wanted. So to your point, I think there's just entitlement across all sorts of different demos.
- [38:39]
A
Correct.
- [38:40]
C
And I think within that, I don't, I don't want to blame social media because I don't think, I think that's a cop out. But I think people see people with things or maybe that are further along and they say, hey, they have, why shouldn't I?
- [38:51]
A
But yeah, but the rise of socialism and Marxism and Communism like the 40s, the 60s, the 20s, had these same dynamics. Friends, actually, here's a good one. Please. This will really make your life a lot better. You need to stop blaming social media. It's an empty pipe. You need to start blaming yourself. People are like, it's never been worse. I'm like, the Holocaust was pretty bad. Like Hitler didn't have Twitter. Like, I don't understand why people don't understand what's actually happening, which is we have become incredibly non accountable. We have become wildly judgmental. And this is not a social media issue. This is modern parenting issue. Consequences matter. Literally in five minutes, we went from parents actively smacking and spanking. I had a belt hanging in my apartment when I first came to America as a kid. And, like, my mom pointed to it and said, wooden spoon.
- [39:56]
C
Wooden spoon.
- [39:57]
A
My mom, like, literally, I've been smacked, I've been spanked, grounded. Do you know this phenomenon? You guys are young, modern parents. People don't ground.
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B
I ground.
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C
We ground.
- [40:10]
B
I ground.
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A
How? You don't know. I want to know what. No, no, no. That's threatening. Do, do. But no, no.
- [40:21]
C
Yeah, she was misbehaving. She playing Mario Kart on the Wii.
- [40:25]
A
Yep.
- [40:25]
C
I said, you keep doing that, it's gone.
- [40:27]
A
Yeah, that's good.
- [40:29]
C
And she comes to me two days later, she goes, where's the thing? It's gone.
- [40:33]
B
Tears.
- [40:34]
A
Very cute. Yeah.
- [40:36]
C
Five more days. If you do another, it's a. Yeah.
- [40:40]
A
Like, but 30, 40 years ago, it was not just a Wii. It was no phone, no friends, no tv. No, like, it was real. She's like, thanks, dad. You took away the Wii. Yeah, she won it the next day. Now she's doing 1700 other things.
- [40:56]
B
She's watching Rugrats.
- [40:57]
A
Correct. No, no, I'm talking about when we really grounded in the 70s and 80s. 60s. Like, you were going to jail.
- [41:05]
C
God forbid. You heard, I'm gonna go get your father scared.
- [41:08]
A
The fuck. I was scared of my dad. As if he was like an assassin. From, like, no, no, we don't have kids. Grow up. And this is why people talk so much shit. I grew up in neighborhoods where if you, like, said one thing to someone, like, it was after school. Punch, blood fight. Like, people are saying all sorts of shit in the comment section because there's no ramifications.
- [41:28]
B
So what's your vibe on gentle parenting?
- [41:31]
A
Can't wait. I love the idea of being friendly and warm. Like, I had a gentle parent who would smack the fuck out of me when I did something wrong. I believe that we need purple. I think that we've this concept of, like, when parents are like, I want to be friends with my child, they're hurting them. You want to be friendly, but you need to be their father or mother. And I'm telling you, the biggest issue in the world right now is lack of consequences. What keeps humans in a very nice place is consequences, ramifications. It's good. Like, I Love when people get punched in the face. I mean it like, you know, run your mouth and disrespect and get punched in the face. That's good. I like it. I know that people are like, whoa, I need to dissect it. Like, we as humans need consequences. It's why I love sports and business. There's consequences, like if you don't play well, if you make a bad pass, if you don't train hard, if you lose, you lost. This is why 8th place trophies destroyed society. When your kids get older, when they become 22 or 18, depending how you see this, or somewhere in that range, if you guys, because of the empire you build, are giving money to your 25 year old child, it will be bad.
- [42:49]
B
Well, we hope. We've seen that. We've seen it happen and we've seen what happens when you do that. And it is bad.
- [42:55]
A
That's right. And that's what's happening. You have people literally blaming boomers on TikTok whose parents are paying their rent.
- [43:04]
B
It's funny because one of the best.
- [43:05]
A
Things, right, like, it's like, I don't lose your book. Yep.
- [43:10]
B
Not money.
- [43:11]
A
Yeah.
- [43:11]
B
Who's your book?
- [43:12]
A
Yeah.
- [43:12]
B
It's not funny.
- [43:14]
A
It's humbling and funny and awesome and like, it's how I see the world. Like, it's just very easy to see what's going on right now. Like, we are soft, we are over coddled. We've become addicted to this. People love this. You're ugly, you're stupid. Well, you should, you should pay more taxes. Like, okay, like, what about you? Where did this. Like, I literally don't even know how to start a sentence of you should it. Never in my brain do I look at someone and say, you should. Other than the framework of like kindness and humanity, it would be great. Like, not this. Like you, like we just. And like you suck and like you think you're so hot. Back to the fake tits and blah. Like, whose business are your tits?
- [44:06]
C
Kind of mine, maybe.
- [44:07]
A
Yeah, you're maybe in the mix a little bit. Maybe a little bit in the mix. Depends on what era we're in.
- [44:13]
B
I'm totally pulling that clip out of context. Go ahead.
- [44:15]
A
You know, like, whose business is it? How. You know. And by the way, this is why I don't tell people how to raise their child. I talk about parenting as a macro theme. As someone who's receiving 10 to 50,000 DMs a month from people that are struggling who are saying the same themes, which is mommy and daddy are over coddling me. It's all the same theme.
- [44:38]
B
So the kid is DMing you.
- [44:39]
A
Oh, you want the weirdest one? Yeah. One of the biggest breakthroughs in my life was when I started really talking about this six, seven years ago. I was getting DMs from rich kids blaming their parents for paying for their life. And I was like, yes. And I was like, my first reply ever, literally. I didn't understand. They're like, gary, I'm super depressed. You know, I read my DMs, super depressed. Let me tell you about me. My parents pay for everything. I'm 25, I live in LA. I remember like yesterday they just bought me a brand new BMW and I'm deeply depressed. And it keeps going and I don't remember the rest, but it ends with. And all of this just shows me that they don't think I'm capable. They think I'm a loser.
- [45:22]
B
So it's a dog whistle from the parent saying that you're not capable. And that's the self esteem. That's interesting to me.
- [45:30]
A
To me too. It blew me away. Then the next part was funny. I said, I literally read this thing and I kind of like am shook because I'd never heard it. I didn't know what rich kids were dealing with, kind of. And I replied, I think I can help. And this person replies, oh my God, please Gary, what should I do? And I replied, stop taking the money. And that's when the convo got interested. This was like a fucking two hour DM back and forth. One of the few times I've ever done this. And literally for an hour and a half over fucking Indiana and Michigan and on my way home from the west coast, I convinced this person to call their father and give back everything. But most kids want to shit on their parents and do nothing about it. Yep.
- [46:25]
C
And I think it's, you know, on this show I've talked about this, where I actually have a little bit of empathy and sympathy for people that are rich kids that are put in that situation because they don't actively make that choice, their parent does for them.
- [46:39]
A
Yeah, but when you're, when you're 7 and 9 and 13, you're right. But when you're 22, friends, everybody who's listening, if you're in a great situation financially where your parents have this situation, if it's bothering you, you do have control. And I, and I agree with you, I understand that you're conditioned to fucking have caviar on Sunday brunch, but you don't need caviar unless you're Russian like me.
- [47:09]
B
You do need caviar mentality.
- [47:11]
A
That's it. Why is it everyone's fault but yours? Literally everything that's wrong in my life is my fault. And it makes me happy as fuck.
- [47:19]
C
Well, because then you can do something about it. Yes, because then empowers with you.
- [47:23]
A
Correct.
- [47:23]
C
It's always somebody else's fault. That puts you in a helpless position.
- [47:25]
A
This is why everyone's so upset right now. They think a politician's in charge. Like, I don't get this. Everyone's wah, wah. And then, you know, everyone's wah, wah.
- [47:35]
C
You know, we moved from California to Texas.
- [47:38]
A
That's right.
- [47:39]
C
We just said, okay.
- [47:39]
A
Oh. And people had all sorts of judgment on you guys early on because you were a little early. And then everyone's like, you're pioneers. You went from shit faces to pioneers. And by the way. And then it goes back and forth. Correct. And by the way. And by the way, you may go back to California.
- [47:54]
C
Probably not.
- [47:55]
A
But by the way, I like being closer here. No, no. You'll appreciate what I'm about to say. Probably not, because you're viewing it what it is today. What if the state of California changes three policies in the next 18 years that you like and you might be like, wait a minute. By the way, on the record, LA has many things better than Austin.
- [48:13]
C
Oh, yeah.
- [48:14]
A
And if three or four things that matter to you change, maybe you will.
- [48:17]
B
We're gonna move next door to you in mono.
- [48:19]
A
Well, that'd be lovely. New York City's the best. New York has better things than everything. New York's the fucking best city in the world. Let there be no confusion.
- [48:28]
C
I mean, slowly moving more. Okay, so let me. Let me go back to what I was asking you. When somebody comes to you, you manage a lot of people and their output is not matching what they actually are going to then. But they're entitled and they want. And they say, gary, I'm working for you. I've been here for a year or two.
- [48:45]
A
I tell them that, unfortunately, I'm making a subjective opinion. You might be right. This is very powerful. This has really worked for me because I actually believe this. This may really help a lot of bosses. I say, let's just have the combo. Hey, unfortunately, brother, I have to make a subjective choice here. Cause it's my company. And subjectively I don't agree with you and not because I want to suppress you and not make money. You can go talk to other employees who've gotten Raises. Just subjectively, I don't think you're up to snuff. Like, your content doesn't get views. Like, you come in at 9:13 when everyone's here at 9. You kind of mope around when someone else does well on a post and your post doesn't, you're not really living it. And so I don't think we're there yet. But good news. Like, you know me, I'm Gary. Like, I'm a good dude. Like, maybe this isn't the right spot and I will try to help you get a spot that's better for you. Or you can subjectively agree with me now because you can tell that you're not tricking me because I just gave you three examples. And let's maybe work on it together and see if we can rectify this the next six months. And if not, let's figure out a great spot for you.
- [49:48]
B
It's interesting to me how much you're paying attention when you say you get here at 9:13 and you have 8 million employees. That's interesting to me. People think you're not paying attention because you're so busy and you've got so much going on.
- [50:00]
A
I wish you could interview all my employees. It literally freaks some. Like, some of my employees literally think I have a spy network. I'm very intuitive. Like, my intuition is my great gift. Actually, let's speak about that. This would be really good. I know a lot of ladies listening to this are gonna really find this interesting. Ladies, you know how, like, in the last decade we've really started talking about gut health? Really big topic. Thank God. And men too. I mean, many. But, like, gut health has become a big conversation. We're starting to get more educated on gut health as like, a primary driver of your overall health. I have a wild one that I really hope I live to watch this clip because the world figured it out. I'm completely convinced intuitively that your intuition and your gut is your primary brain and your brain is your secondary brain. And I don't think the world knows that. And I think there's something big, big there, and I wish I was.
- [50:58]
B
A fucking vibration is coming from your gut, which is actually guiding you, not your brain.
- [51:03]
A
That's right.
- [51:04]
C
But he's saying the first indicator of whether something's off or on or good or bad.
- [51:09]
B
What did I get called the other day on the podcast? Michael Gary might be it too. What did I get called?
- [51:12]
C
I mean, you called him anyway.
- [51:14]
B
No, the Prophet. Prolific.
- [51:16]
C
Oh, no, no, no. She keeps trying you're not a prophet.
- [51:18]
B
No. What is it?
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A
No. She wants to be a prophet.
- [51:21]
B
What's it called?
- [51:21]
C
Prophetic.
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B
Prophetic.
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A
Yeah.
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C
You both have that.
- [51:24]
A
Yeah. Intuition. And I think the people that are willing to lean into it, I think a lot of people listening have talked themselves out of it. And you know what sucks is when you go against your intuition and it doesn't work out. It hurts. Triple. Yeah. And so for me. And for me.
- [51:38]
B
Say that again.
- [51:40]
A
The number one thing that really fucks with people is where they used someone else's opinion that they trust or logic to make a decision versus their intuition that was really going off. So then when it fails, you're, like, devastated because you're really mad at yourself for not listening. Which is why I only listen to my intuition. Intuition oftentimes has not worked out, but it feels nice because I died on my own sword. It's much more fun to die on your own sword than someone else's sword.
- [52:10]
B
And a lot of the times it does work out in your intuition. Spider senses antenna is 100% right most of the time.
- [52:17]
A
I'm just saying, a lot of times it didn't because there's something you didn't see. Like something else was a variable. You might have actually been right, but it ended up being wrong. Things happen.
- [52:26]
B
But one of my favorite things that you've ever talked about, and I forgot where it was, I think on Instagram. But you said that when people say social media is negative, open up your feed. Open up your content page and look at your content. You have created that. And I'm not saying it as eloquent as you said it. Can you talk to our audience about that?
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A
Every one of you that thinks social media is bad or that the algorithms are manipulating you, I want you to open your phone and go to TikTok or Instagram right now. And go. Go to Search. Go to the search function in search. I want you to do this, like, literally pause the podcast right now. Get yourself situated. Yeah, do this. This is fun. This is nice. Do it. Friends, feel free to jump in. Yep. You're on search. I really want you to do this. This is really important. Thank you, everyone. I want you to search. You're in search. Type in kittens. Okay, got it. I need you to like, four posts right now. I mean it, please. Like, four posts.
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C
You know, when Ozzy Osbourne passed away, I was watching, like, a million things because I love my whole feed broken.
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A
Yeah. Please help me here. Four posts, brother. I don't care. I need you're changing my algorithm. So cute. All right, now back out. I want you to type in love. Everybody who's listening to this podcast, I need you to do this. This is real. If you really believe that social media is the devil, or the algorithm's against you, or things are bad, I really need you to. Like, this one's important.
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B
Are you typing in love?
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A
Yeah. Michael's faking it. I can see he's faking it. I did it. All right, I need you to, like, please, everyone follow this. I need you to, like, three posts and this. I know this one will hurt a lot of you. I know this will hurt a lot of you, but I need you to follow one of those accounts in the love thread. I know a lot of people are very precious about who they follow. This is gonna fuck people up, but I need you to do it, please. Just pick one.
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B
Michael, go follow Louise Hay affirmation.
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C
Oh, I don't know if I want to follow that one that popped up at the top. It was Diddy, though.
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A
Yeah, yeah, it happens.
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C
It happens.
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A
Listen, he might be like, you know, learning a lot of things in this new sitch.
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B
Michael, follow Louise Hay affirmations.
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C
I don't know where that one is.
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B
Look, Louise Hay affirmations.
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A
All right, back out, everyone. Back out. This is very important. This is actually profound. This might be. Lauren, I really mean this. This might be the thing that we're most stopped in public about this segment right now. Now, I need you to put sunshine, okay? Sunshine.
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C
Sunshine.
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B
Okay.
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C
Makes me happy.
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A
It is nice. 5 likes. I need it. I need. Click into the grid, pick which ones you like. Like it, like it. All right, I don't want to eat up the entire podcast, but 15 minutes of this. Actually, let's do the last one. This is probably the most important one you'll ever do in your life. Ready? Need everybody to type in Gary V E E. I need you to, like, four posts.
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C
My friends, by the way, positive shit.
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B
You're all over my algorithm. So that's good, because it's all positive.
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A
So, friends, this is super important. I believe a lot of you have done this just now. I really think a lot of people did it. I think a lot of you will continue and put hiking and things you like cooking. Mona has really, in the last couple years, realized how much joy she gets from cooking. So, like, cooking sports highlights. Now we can go a little bit less deep. You can add sports highlights, fashion. I'm telling you, within 30 seconds, if you really do 15 minutes of what I just said, you will enclose your phone tomorrow morning. Your feed's different. Your feed is not changing you. The platforms are not manipulating you. They're exposing who you are.
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B
Your feedback feed is a reflection of who you are. My producer Taylor's feed is all buttholes, buttholes, big booty. And this is how I knew your theory was right. Cuz I asked him to go on.
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C
His show us your.
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B
He was complaining about social media and I said, pull it up. And all of it was twerking butthole. And I'm like, well, he's watching.
- [56:43]
A
This is a reflection. It's sounds like he should be loving social media. Why is he upset? Yeah, Ariel, wait till you see his face. But you know what's so funny?
- [56:53]
C
We just did this dinner.
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A
He's like, he likes big butts and he can't lie. You know, the algorithm doesn't let you lie. Gotta make that song.
- [57:02]
C
Go ahead, Adam, the head of Instagram and he was talking about this and he said the algorithm is an interest based algorithm. It follows your personal interest.
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A
Friends, social media doesn't exist anymore. I've been saying this for a couple months now. We are in the era of interest. Me. Yes. You're not getting content from who you follow. You're getting content of the things you like. And remember when I said you were in control? People are like, gary, you don't get it though. It's addicting. The endorphins, they fucking got the system. I'm like, motherfucker, I just told you how to fix it in three minutes. What are you fucking talking about? We've given up our control completely to the algorithm, to Instagram, to TikTok. The fuck are you guys talking about? Bunch of fucking crying wah wah bitches who don't want to take accountability for their actual life. Don't blame people. You're the one that likes buttholes.
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C
I'm gonna pull that whole clip in just one segment. That's gonna be the opener of this, brother.
- [57:57]
A
That's it, man. Like, I don't understand. Like, can we please use. Can this podcast please, for thousands of you, be the moment where you realize it's two thumbs in. It's fucking two thumbs in. It's you.
- [58:11]
C
And I think you know.
- [58:12]
A
Oh, Gary, you don't get it. My boyfriend. Break up. If your boyfriend's a fucking delusionally negative fucking loser, break up. Or if, like, if you like, if you like hooking up with him so much cause he's the most handsome dude, then realize you're choosing dick over happiness. I mean, I don't know. And by the way, you're allowed for a couple of months, but just get out of there eventually. Like, I don't know, like, no judgment.
- [58:45]
B
But, like, don't blame and don't choose dick over happiness. It's not worth it.
- [58:51]
C
This was not already note card.
- [58:53]
A
Or choose it for. Or choose it for like one week.
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B
Yeah.
- [58:56]
A
Like, again, yeah. Yeah. Like, life is not like locked in forever. And I don't know. Accountability is the most addicting word to me. I'm obsessed with accountability. I would inject accountability into my lips. No, I think that.
- [59:16]
C
I mean, like I said what we appreciate for such a long time about you is and whether the message when you hear it sometimes first time I'd.
- [59:25]
A
Be like, whoa, whoa.
- [59:26]
C
It's like a cold splash of water in your face. But what you're saying is basically like, you have as an individual the power to dictate the outcome of your life. End of story.
- [59:34]
A
I watch politicians right now say, you're not capable. You're not capable. You need to be scared of this. You need to be scared of this. You're not capable. You need to be scared of this. You're not capable. You need to be scared of this. And I can help you. I live a life of. Here is all this good information. Here's how you make money. Here's how you get happy. Here's how you make money. Here's how you can make happiness, happiness, money. Happiness, money, happiness, money. And then I finish with saying, I can't help you. You can help you. The end. That right there is what's going on. And by the way, I'm not special. There are other people like me, and I implore people that are listening right now to find those people and stop consuming the other people.
- [60:22]
B
Mic drop. Gary Vee, first time on the show, always a charm. This one was a lot of range, Gary.
- [60:31]
A
Yes, we definitely, you know. Yeah. Yes. There was butthole dick tits. Like, we definitely. It was a little bit of a sixth grade show.
- [60:41]
B
I don't know if you're promoting anything right now, but I'm gonna call you out and say that I actually read your book to my kids and they love it.
- [60:49]
A
Meet me in the middle.
- [60:50]
B
Yes. And there's two different sides and how it switches over.
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A
Yeah. I think for all the moms, if you go to vee friends.com cartoons, this whole theme, you know, I can sit and talk about it or I can do something about it. Four years ago, I decided that I was not only the byproduct of a great mother Jersey immigration, like, you know, entrepreneurship, the American dream. But I was also the byproduct of kids television that was pushing good agenda. I used to watch he man and it was super cool. And at the end, all 80s boys stand up on this one. Remember this? You'd watch he Man. It was cool. It wasn't virtue signaling, like, it was like beat the Skeletor and like cool shit. And then at the end, he man would show up on the screen at the end of the cartoon as Adam, which is who he was before he man and be like, hey, kids, don't forget, be nice to your sister. I was like, oh, fuck. He man told me to be nice to my sister. I'm like, liz, get over here. You're the best. So five years ago, I started Veefriends. We have 20 cartoons right now on YouTube. Kids, if you have kids between three and eight, I could not recommend it more. Vee friends.com cartoons, please put it on. Guys, read the book.
- [62:05]
C
We gotta go to the cartoon channel.
- [62:06]
A
And by the way, I've really built this IP, so it's 250 characters. It's my Pokemon meets Marvel meets Sesame Street. But you'll like this. I really made two of the girl characters, like the alphas of the whole world. The fearless fairy and the ambitious angel are two of the five most important characters, but also the competitive clown. So like my cartoons. And parents, please watch the cartoons. You're gonna laugh. The cartoon's for the kids, but it's also poking at you guys. Some of the stuff we talk like, when you watch a cartoon, it's a little bit like. Yeah, I'm like, eighth place trophies lead to suicidal thoughts. Not really, but it's like I'm really poking at it. I'm like really poking at it. So I think it's fun for parents to watch. I did VO. You know what's funny? I did didn't. But AI, Sora 2. I don't know if you guys know what Sora 2 is, so everybody needs to download Sora 2. It's OpenAI's TikTok, where all the content is AI, watch this. So you'll love this. You think ice will ever slow me down? You don't know your boy. So literally, I just typed I.
- [63:19]
B
That's not you.
- [63:19]
A
This one's even better. The sun feels like it's trying to cook everything in. You wants to run for the nearest iceberg. But if you only play in the cold, you never build the tolerance for the Heat that's coming anywhere when you charge. This is. I literally. Oh, they see it. No, no, they know, like, it's early, but the fact that it's already that good. Where's it going to be in two years? That was me typing Gary V. Motivating penguins to not be scared of the sun. Enter. And that mate was Meadow.
- [63:44]
C
With Sora.
- [63:45]
A
With Sora, too.
- [63:46]
B
So you used your voice from Sora for the.
- [63:48]
A
So where I was going is there's a character in Be Friends called Gary B.
- [63:52]
B
Okay.
- [63:53]
A
B, E, E. And I'm gonna be the voice of him in. It's a B. Yes.
- [63:58]
B
That's genius that you have a cartoon. I think that's so smart.
- [64:01]
C
And you ever need some cameo voices.
- [64:03]
A
Yeah.
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B
Can I do a cameo?
- [64:04]
A
Yeah, for sure.
- [64:05]
B
Can I be like. Like, Ambitious angel or one of the characters Sisters? That's Alpha.
- [64:12]
A
Yes, you can.
- [64:13]
B
Can I actually?
- [64:14]
A
Yes.
- [64:15]
B
I will do it for free.
- [64:16]
A
You will do it for free? No, you're not. Not. We. She's in. You need to. You need to audition. I want to be.
- [64:26]
C
What's character?
- [64:26]
A
Humble Hedgehog. No, no. What about Helpful Hippo?
- [64:32]
C
I'll be Helpful Hippo.
- [64:33]
A
Helpful Hippo. All right. Anyway, love you guys. I gotta run. See you. Thank you so much, everybody. If you enjoyed this podcast, please go back and look at the prior episodes. They're loaded. I appreciate your attention and thanks for being part of this journey. See you later.