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This is the GaryVee audio experience.
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Gary, one of the things that strikes me about you is the fact that you don't talk just about strategy, but you talk just as much about who we are.
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Yes.
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And how we really understand who we are and why that's important. Why is that so important to you? Just as important as any business strategy?
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Because I think it's the foundation. I don't. You know, when I think about this building, we can talk about how beautiful the lighting is or the carpet or the paint, but without these steel beams, there is no building. And I believe one's relationships with oneself is the concrete and the steel that the foundation is built on. And so after half a decade in the 2010-15, when I was telling people what to do and really giving it to them, and really giving it to them, I couldn't understand why they weren't doing it. And that sent me down the road. You could see my content evolve in my career because I had an epiphany of like, why are they not doing this? This is right. It's like what I just talked about with social shopping. Social live shopping is right. But then why isn't anyone doing this? Oh my God. I took for granted the way I was parented, the way I the self esteem. I had my vision of gratitude and patience. Maybe I should talk about this. And that's how I can get them there. And it's become a very big part of how I see the world.
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But the fascinating thing about you is, and I can relate to this a lot you talk about having two parents. One was why is that optimistic for you?
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Yes.
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And the other one's so pessimistic. So many of us go through that. We have that in our lives. How did you manage to listen to the optimism and drown out.
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The truth is I got lucky. My father, who was the more cynical, pessimistic, reserved one, he worked every minute. I barely saw him my whole life. So by the time I got to work with my father and worked for him when I was 14, I was baked dumb. I was molded and then I was there. Now my father taught me a lot of great things from work ethic. I'll tell you, my mother and I are a little bit more gift of gab. This is why I can do what I want. My father was much more. And I would tell you that without my father, I definitely don't think I could be the man I am. I think I would have gone down more of a bullshit path and would have just been the Bad version of someone like me that has this level of charisma and salesmanship. And so, you know, I just got fortunate. And when I got both of them, you know, and by the time I got to my dad, his negativity, I was visceral to. In fact, I think a lot about what I did with my father from 15 to 35. In a lot of ways, I was the emotional bringer to the table in our relationship. And it's one of the things I'm most proud of.
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Do you know what's really interesting is we can have parents who kind of come at us with that kind of pessimistic thing of. Because they want the best for us.
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Right. It comes out of fear, 100%. They don't want us to marry the wrong person. They don't want us to not get a job that doesn't pay. Parenting weaponizes fear, thus making them negative.
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So how do you kind of break out of that? Because it can take a lot. Do you know what's really interesting? I was 41 years of age when I realized that it wasn't my responsibility.
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To make them happy. Yeah.
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And it was. It was. I knew that. It's weird because I knew that intellectually.
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Yes.
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When I knew that in my soul.
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Changed everything.
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Everything.
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Like, everything.
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Everything.
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Look, this is why I'm so motivated. You know, I wish my generation, your generation, had this. Gary V. Is the person I wish I had at 15. I wish I had a business person to look up to that was, if I may say, cool. But also talked about important things. Not just money, not just stuff. And, you know, I try to be the person that would have most affected me.
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Do you know what's really interesting? I've been following you for many years, as many people have, but I used to. I used to think you were super obnoxious. I kid you not.
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I know. I believe it.
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So, like. So say like, 2008. Ish.
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I get it.
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I was like, I can't.
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Who's this loud guy cursing what you were saying?
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And then a few years later, you'd kind of mellowed out of it. I was like, whoa, the wisdom that is happening here is incredible.
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Yeah. I mean, I think when I first hit the scene, you know, it was 2008. The economy was in a bad place, and, you know, work ethic and going at. Was so obvious to me how big the opportunity was that I, at some level, couldn't contain my excitement. Which I think, to your point, you know, when you're as jerseyed out you know, as, you know, cursing was, there was plenty of people on stage now that didn't hear me once I started cursing. But in 2008, it was kind of not acceptable. Dressing casual for a businessman, that was not the right thing. And so in hindsight, I think I was a little ahead of my time. But I was comfortable with being misunderstood because even in 2008, I knew we'd be sitting here. I knew that I wasn't a flash in the pan. I knew I was running the marathon, not the sprint. I knew what my North Star was.
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And so it's really interesting to me that you're so big on video.
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Yes.
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And a lot of people. I was shocked by the number of people who had Never posted on LinkedIn when you asked that question in the audience. And people are scared.
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Yes. So you know or don't know the opportunity.
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Yes.
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You know, LinkedIn is not universally understood the way that Instagram and YouTube are.
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But how do you get yourself out there and how do you kind of overcome that thing of maybe I'm going to come across as obnoxious or whatever, or what's the art of communication, if you will?
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Well, the art of communication is coming from a place of truth, and that truth can come in many shapes and forms. You just might be funny. So be funny. I think too many people get caught in talking about the things they don't know, which then inherently makes them scared. I'd be petrified. I mean, I just gave that entire keynote improv, but if I had to go give a keynote right now around Saturn in front of all those people, I'd be petrified. I don't know anything about Saturn. And so I think one of the biggest truths that I live by is stay in things that you know, or at least that you're passionate about. You know, opinions are okay as long as you have the humility to understand that other opinions matter too. And so, you know, I think. I think most people are. Are struggling with putting things out there, predominantly based on high school dynamic insecurities. How do I look? They. I mean, I've watched many people start and stop in the same day because one random person says, you're stupid, you're wrong, and they just. And I'm empathetic to that. That is the insecurity that I'm trying to fight for and advocate against every day. I think it's practice. I think it's building up self esteem. Your revelation at 41 of, like, people pleasing or, you know, for other people, it's a revelation. Of like, yeah, high school. That's why I say the things I say on stage. If one person up down today heard me and said high school's over, Nathan realized, wait a minute, I am living my life like I'm 16.
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That sucked back there. Yeah.
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Then mission accomplished.
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The power of no.
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Something, by the way, that I'm not great at.
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Really?
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Mm. I'm still trading too much on the power of yes. The power of no is something I continue to struggle with.
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But go ahead, tell me more. Tell me why you struggle with narrative.
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Multiple reasons. I have people pleasing DNA, believe it or not. Gary Vee on stage is very canderous and I'm able to shoot it straight. But I hate disappointing, so I like saying yes. I also believe in serendipity. So many of the greatest things that have happened to me has been saying yes to things that didn't look good on paper. So I continue to chase.
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How do you make those difficult decisions then?
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I'm intuition. Logic. Surrounding myself with people like admins and chiefs of staff and team members that help me at times. It's something I'm still on a journey of, I'm still working on.
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Now, just a couple of final questions in terms of personal brand in the age of AI.
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Yes.
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How do we do that? Is it going to be easier? Is it easier?
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Of course.
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When you're competing with. You were talking about, you know, the influencers who are AI, and you are trying to bring something yourself.
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Competing is a forever game. That's just you want to be a personal brand, you're going to have to compete. I always tell people, like, if you want something great, it should be hard, right? Like you're going to compete, you're going to compete with yourself, you're going to compete with other things. Meaning Instagram, it doesn't just compete with TikTok and Facebook, it competes with Netflix, it competes with a great book, it competes with us having a nice dinner. Everybody's competing constantly. Competition is a very misunderstood energy in our society. In fact, one of the missteps that I think we've made is we've demonized competition. I think eighth place trophies have been well intended mistakes. And so how do you compete? You have no choice.
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How do you level up then?
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By providing value. And I think most people struggle with that because they're selfish. Most people want to be famous or have followers for themselves and so everything that's coming out of their mouth is in self interest. Very hard to build a community and bring value. If everything's about me, and finally, what's your power play? Giving more than I take.
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I love it. Gary Vee.
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Thank you.
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Amazing. Absolutely fantastic. Thank you so much.
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Such a pleasure.
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Brilliant.
The GaryVee Audio Experience: The Truth About Personal Branding (Nobody Talks About This) – Detailed Summary
Release Date: February 17, 2025
In this compelling episode of The GaryVee Audio Experience, host Gary Vaynerchuk delves deep into the often-overlooked facets of personal branding. Moving beyond mere strategies, Gary emphasizes the foundational importance of self-awareness and authenticity in building a personal brand that stands the test of time. This episode offers listeners a blend of personal anecdotes, insightful discussions, and practical advice, making it an invaluable resource for anyone looking to navigate the complexities of personal branding in today's dynamic landscape.
Gary opens the conversation by highlighting that personal branding is not just about external strategies but starts with a profound understanding of oneself. He uses the metaphor of constructing a building to illustrate this point:
"I believe one's relationships with oneself is the concrete and the steel that the foundation is built on." [00:27]
He explains that without a solid self-foundation, all other aspects of personal branding are superficial. This self-awareness serves as the bedrock upon which genuine relationships and authentic branding efforts are constructed.
A significant portion of the discussion revolves around Gary's upbringing and the dual influence of his parents. He shares personal stories that shed light on how his father's pessimistic nature and his mother's more optimistic demeanor shaped his worldview and communication style.
"Without my father, I definitely don't think I could be the man I am." [01:53]
Gary credits his father for instilling a strong work ethic, despite their limited time together growing up. This blend of his parents' contrasting traits—his father's cynicism and his mother's gift of gab—crafted a balanced persona in Gary, enabling him to navigate both business and interpersonal relationships effectively.
The conversation shifts to the challenges individuals face when trying to break free from negative influences or fear-based mindsets instilled during upbringing. Gary emphasizes the transformative realization that personal happiness and authenticity are not contingent on others' approval.
"I knew it wasn't my responsibility to make them happy." [03:39]
He discusses the importance of overcoming high school insecurities that linger into adulthood, advocating for true self-expression over people-pleasing tendencies. This authenticity is crucial for effective personal branding, as it fosters trust and genuine connections with the audience.
Reflecting on his own journey, Gary acknowledges the early perceptions of him being "super obnoxious" and how his brand has matured over the years. He attributes this evolution to his unwavering commitment to his long-term vision and his ability to stay true to his "North Star."
"I was a little ahead of my time. But I was comfortable with being misunderstood because I knew that I wasn't a flash in the pan." [04:40]
Gary's candidness about his initial approach provides valuable insights into the importance of consistency and resilience in personal branding.
Gary underscores the significance of video content in personal branding, particularly on platforms like LinkedIn, despite many users' apprehensions.
"The art of communication is coming from a place of truth." [06:23]
He advises aspiring personal brands to communicate authentically, whether through humor or heartfelt messages, and to stay within their areas of passion and knowledge. By doing so, they can build confidence and overcome fears of appearing obnoxious or inauthentic.
Acknowledging his own struggles, Gary discusses the delicate balance between saying "yes" and "no." He reveals his tendency to favor "yes" due to his people-pleasing nature and belief in serendipity, which has led to many of his successes.
"The power of no is something I continue to struggle with." [08:04]
Gary emphasizes the importance of intuitive and logical decision-making, supported by a strong team, to navigate these challenges effectively.
Addressing the contemporary landscape, Gary explores how artificial intelligence impacts personal branding. He posits that competition is an inherent aspect of building a personal brand, especially in an era where AI-driven influencers are on the rise.
"Competition is a forever game. That's just you want to be a personal brand, you're going to have to compete." [09:14]
Gary advocates for focusing on providing genuine value to the audience rather than seeking fame for personal gain. By prioritizing community-building and value provision, individuals can create meaningful and sustainable personal brands.
In his concluding thoughts, Gary encapsulates his philosophy on personal branding by emphasizing the importance of generosity.
"Giving more than I take." [10:35]
He reinforces that true personal branding success stems from selflessness and a commitment to enriching others' lives, rather than merely accumulating followers or personal accolades.
This episode of The GaryVee Audio Experience offers a profound exploration of personal branding, intertwining personal narratives with actionable insights. Gary Vaynerchuk's candid discussion on self-awareness, overcoming fears, balancing personal and professional influences, and navigating the competitive landscape in the age of AI provides a comprehensive roadmap for individuals aspiring to build authentic and impactful personal brands.
Listeners are left with the understanding that personal branding is deeply rooted in self-knowledge, authenticity, and a genuine desire to provide value to others. Gary's unfiltered honesty and strategic wisdom make this episode a must-listen for anyone serious about carving out a meaningful presence in the crowded digital space.