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Some of the victims are minors and you'll hear quite a lot of strong language. If you or someone you love has been affected by any of the themes in the show, we've left some links in the description that offer resources and support. Take care of yourself Khadijah and I remember exactly where we were on September 15, 2022. I think everyone in our community does. I think I was sitting in the living room and I got a phone call. I was in my bedroom, I got the text and I think I paced on my balcony, just back and forth waiting for the news. Yeah, I just couldn't sit. I just couldn't sit down because I just couldn't believe. I couldn't believe it was actually happening. Yeah, it was. It was surreal. I definitely had a feeling that God was on duty. You know, I always say, God, be patient, God is on duty. That morning, it really felt like he was. Because after years of campaigning, Roger Golubski was finally in handcuffs. The judge read him each of his charges, and in response, he seemed pretty animated, appearing shocked and surprised, raising his head and his eyebrows. Remember Ophelia Williams, the mother of twins who said Golubski assaulted her after arresting her sons? She and an anonymous woman who also claimed Golubski had assaulted her had quietly spent years working with the FBI to share information about what had happened to them. That helped build a case that led to Galupski being arrested on the charges of kidnap and sexual assault on September 15, 2022. The documents filed for the case were damning Ophelia and the anonymous woman who goes by SK described Golubski's abuse in depth. I won't go into the details, but it was violent, not consensual, and left both women traumatized. Galupski is taken to his first court appearance. On the day of his arrest, he pleads not guilty. But that September arrest is just the start when it hits the news. Khadijah and I spend hours on the phone talking to people who want to share their Galupski stories. We redirect them to lawyers and watch on in awe as we realize the work we've dedicated years of our lives to is finally moving things in the right direction. It isn't all plain selling, though. Golubski has a range of health issues, including kidney failure, which requires regular dialysis. So he's put on house arrest as he awaits trial. There is a lot of controversy surrounding that house arrest. Some of the victims are outraged that he's allowed to stay living at home. And in January 2024, someone takes a photo that shows Golubski out at a fast food place. Trips out to a burger joint were not included in the terms of a house arrest for a man accused of serious violent crimes. But we push all of that to the side and stay focused on our end goal, justice. Ophelia in the anonymous victim's case meant a lot to us. It only involved two victims, but we knew that if Golubski was found guilty, it could open the floodgates for even more women to get their day in court. So we were hopeful. But that anticipation came with nerves, I think for about a week straight. I went to bed crying and I woke up Crying. It's just like you could feel something in the air. Emotions were running high. We were anxious and felt a little off balance. But we were determined to see it through. Because after years of investigating and fighting for justice, the first day of Roger Golubski's trial was finally here. On the morning of December 2, 2024, a sharp, icy chill descends over Kansas City, Kansas. It's the first truly cold day of the winter. And if I didn't need to be out of the house by 9am, I would stay inside. But this is the day we've all been waiting for, and no amount of ice, wind or snow can stop me from driving over to the Topeka courthouse. I get into my car, but the GPS is playing up. It keeps sending me to the wrong place. So I call Khadijah and we agree to meet up just before the trial begins. And in the car, we talked about how gloomy of a day it was. It was probably the worst day of the year right now. You know, that day was cold. Khadijah arrives a little earlier than me. It's around 9:25am when her taxi pulls up outside the courthouse. She steps into the courthouse to warm up, stands in the reception to shelter from the cold. But when she walks in, she's greeted by a staff member who tells her that things aren't going according to plan, the trial isn't going to start on time. Why? Gillespie is missing. And I'm like, he's missing. You know, at this point, my jaw is like, what? I'm Nikki Richardson from the Teens at Novel and I Heart podcast. This is the Girlfriends Untouchable. I got you, I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. Episode 7 the Reckoning I got you, I got you. I got you. When I park up outside the courthouse that morning, Khadijah heads straight towards my car. They can't find his ass. What do you mean they can't find him? He wasn't. They can't find him. Their issue. They about to issue a warrant and go look for this motherfucker. I'm serious, girl. My whole mouth dropped. Who was supposed to be keeping tabs on him? I don't fucking know. Golubski was on house arrest with the understanding that he would make his own way to court. But his car isn't parked outside the courthouse and he's not picking up his phone. So the judge presiding over the trial puts out a warrant for his arrest. Khadijah tries to explain it to me, but it just doesn't make any sense. Nikki. Of all the shit I was not expecting, not keeping track of him. He is. I'm so dumbfounded. This was just not what I expected. Khadijah and I are at a complete standstill for a moment, trying to figure out what to do while we wait for Golubski to arrive. You hungry? No. Damn, Nikki. What the. I don't even. I mean my, my brain was already prepared to go sit in court. They said if they could find him by 1 o', clock then they would, they would try to continue on with the trial. Otherwise there's not going to be, oh well, he's going to have some explaining to do. I mean, that already starts him off real bad. Even if they do find him, I don't know, I think this is D. He probably left the country. Where's Nico? She ain't coming. You know, Nikko has this crazy ass sixth sense, but she kept saying it was gonna be bullshit. She kept saying that to me. And here we are. While Khadijah and I sit in the car waiting for Galupski to be found and brought to court, Nikko is at home. She had been anxiously tossing and turning her way through the early morning the day before his trail that Sunday. I could not sleep. I couldn't. I couldn't rest. Nikko desperately wanted justice for her younger self, her older sister Stacey, and all the women she loved and lost whose lives had crossed paths with Roger Golubski. Golubski going on trial felt like the first step towards that. I had a feeling of like butterflies. All kind of emotions was going through me. I just was able to go to sleep at about 7, 8 that morning. She can't fall into a deep sleep, so she glances over at her phone. I had about 20 missed calls. Khadijah and I are still sitting in the car trying to figure out what's gone wrong. But then we get a call. Nico called me crying and she said her lawyer told her he's dead. It's 9:55am we're supposed to be sitting in court in five minutes. But according to Nico and her lawyer, Roger Golubski is dead. Khadijah and I don't know what to do. So we just sit in the car shell shocked as we try to wrap our minds around it. That must have been them chills I felt this morning. We sit on our phones, desperately refreshing the news for an official statement, details or an explanation. And then I get a text. He was found dead in his home. Um, where you found that at? Somebody just messaged it to me. Details slowly begin to filter through. At 6am that morning, Roger Golubski wakes up to get ready for the first day of his trial. At 7.03am, he calls up his son Matthew and tells him he is not strong enough to do this. Still. He gets dressed and prepares to head over to the courthouse. At around 8.20am, he takes a call from his lawyer's office. It lasts 1 minute and 11 seconds. At 8:30, he leaves the house and gets into his 2011 red Ford Taurus. He makes his way down 9th street to Edwardsville Drive, but doesn't reach the interstate. Instead, he hits a roundabout and heads back home. At 9:01, he calls his attorney again. They talk for a few minutes. The call ends. Golubski's lawyer's office tries to call him four more times, but he doesn't pick up. A few minutes later, a 911 call comes from the woman who's been living with Galupski during his house arrest. She tells the operator that she was inside when she heard a loud bang. She says she ran out of the house and onto the back porch. According to her, Roger Golubski is sitting on the floor still holding a pistol. He was pronounced dead at 9:18am just 42 minutes before we thought we would be in court for jury selection. The cause of death, Suicide. Khadijah and I sit in shock as we read the news. Wow. Damn. Make you feel like you drop a motherfucker to kill himself, don't it? A little bit. Don't it? Just a little bit, don't it? Just a little bit. It's not the best feeling in the world. It's a fucked up, fast feeling right now. Yeah. Cause that's not the way I expected it to end on the day of. Are you fucking kidding me? I mean, at least let them have their day in court. But he wasn't gonna let anybody have that satisfaction. We didn't know what to do really. From there we kind of just sat with it on the side of the road for probably about five minutes before we, we did anything. Just sitting there, like in awe. It felt like life was sucked out of Topeka. It's probably on the news already. It's gotta be. Wow. Nikki, Nikki, Nikki. What kind of work are we fucking doing? This is wild. What the fuck we doing? I don't know. So you're telling me that the AI that's meant to make everyone's job. Easier to manage just adds more to manage. On top of the thousands of apps the IT department already manages, Funny how that works. Any business can add AI. IBM helps you scale and manage AI to change how you do business. Let's create Smarto IBM. Your pet is your bestie, your therapist, your perfect match. It's easy to love them. It's easy to protect them too with pet insurance coverage from Pets Best because it's all fun and games until they chew on something they shouldn't and you get a vet bill to match. 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Her mother Dorothy was murdered in the 80s and Galupski was the officer she met while trying to reopen the investigation. I have questions. That's why I ask, like, is he really dead? Trina isn't the only one who doubts the official statement about what happened that morning. We hear theories all day. Some people think Golubski's hiding out in rural Kansas, living with distant relatives in Missouri. Others say he's taken a flight and fled to a country that doesn't have an extradition treaty with America. But there's another theory that starts to gain a lot of traction amongst the community. If he is dead, someone took his life. But Gilluski taking his own life? No, you can't get me to believe that. And I really feel as though it happened because everyone else was gonna be exposed. I'll be honest. It's a theory I considered that morning. Golubski's trial had the potential to implicate and expose other people, potentially dangerous, powerful people in the moment. Khadijah and I can't help but wonder whether there was a person or group of people desperate enough to protect themselves that they would want Golubski dead. But we never get evidence to give weight to any of those theories. So we sit with the official statement that Golubski's death was a suicide. The rest of that morning is a whirlwind. We spend hours on the phone talking to the Department of Justice, who reached out to see how they could support us. And we spoke to journalists looking for more information. Hey, I don't know if you heard the news, but Roger Gilluspie didn't show up for court this morning, and they found him dead in his home. To clarify, Khadijah and I are not lawyers or public officials. Still, that morning, we find ourselves being called upon like unofficial spokeswomen. And I'll be honest, it's kind of stressful. By 11am, the adrenaline rush is beginning to wear off. So we make an executive decision to drive across Topeka and get some lunch. I'm just gonna go with the burger with cheese. I'm trying to think how big my stomach's about to be. Let's just do a full order of biscuits and gravy. It's one of the most disappointing days of our lives. But for most people in that diner, it's just a regular Monday. They're grabbing lunch, seeing friends, and having casual conversations. Their indifference underscores how fucking surreal our day has been. After a frantic morning outside the courthouse, things are finally beginning to slow down. And for the first time since hearing the news, we just sit down and eat and open up about how we're really feeling. I think, fine, all of me. And I think it's because my spirit kind of meets. It could feel the intensity of it. It's such a tragic ending. I mean, because if he wanted to end it, he could have ended it at any time. It didn't have to be the day of the fucking trial. I just have so many questions. But that has been. This entire process is just having so many questions, and it just feels so unresolved, you know, because there's no justice at this point. Because at least they were able to at least have their day in court is suicide an admission of guilt? No, no. Unless he left a note with a confession. I'm really worried about Nico. Me, too. I'm worried about all of them. Really? Yeah. But Nico in particular. Yeah, Nico. Matter of fact, let me it call. Hey, Nico. How you feeling, babe? I'm hurt and I'm angry. You said you're hurt and you're angry. Yeah. Golubski's trial was supposed to last weeks and end on January 15, 2025, one day before the 25th anniversary of Niko's older sister Stacy's murder. Nikko had thought the trial ending with Golubski behind bars would give her a sense of closure. But him killing himself before he could face up to what he'd done devastated her. I wanted to be able to face him and ask him why. And why is he lying? Pastor him, plead with him to tell the truth, Own up to what you've done. You have lived your life. Just. I want an apology for everything that he's done. The reality of the situation is beginning to sink in. For Niko, there isn't going to be a trial. Galupski is never going to see his day in court. And after a lifetime of hurt, his victims still aren't going to get the justice they deserved. She isn't the only one feeling that way. Lamont McIntyre spent 23 years in prison after being arrested by Roger Glupski, who had sexually assaulted his mother, Rose. He was getting ready to drive over to Topeka in anticipation of the first day of the trial when he heard the news. I just wanted to see him face his accusers and face the people who he had wronged. That's what the justice system is designed to do, to help the victims of society get justice by way of the people who wronged them. And I was expecting my mother to experience that. Yeah, I felt like I was robbed. I lost something. For a moment, I felt like shit. I lost an opportunity to face my accuser, face this man who did this shit to my mind. As Khadijah and I sit in the diner eating lunch, we get calls from victims, survivors, witnesses and loved ones reaching out to us for answers. But we don't have them. For a while, we'd allowed ourselves to believe that if we worked hard enough, pushed the right people and kept fighting, we could change things, prove that nobody, even a powerful police officer, was untouchable. But it doesn't feel true now. I just wish I could go somewhere and just scream. Like, if we could just go somewhere and just scream, just, like, over and over. Just scream. It's a tough morning. But as we work through our emotions, we come to some conclusions. It isn't our fault that Galupski is dead or that the authorities supervising his house arrest failed to find and confiscate his gun. 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Khadijah and I kept rewinding the tape playing the years leading up to his death. Back in our Minds and trying to figure out what could have been done to get justice sooner. We hoped that if we could trace things back to the start, we might be able to figure out what to do next. So as we tried to make sense of Golubski's death and the questions it left us with, we turned to the only concrete thing we had. The dozens of interviews, folders worth of evidence, and numerous affidavits that had been collected over the years. We were looking for answers, or at least clues, anything we might have missed the first time around. We wanted to find something that might give the dozens of women whose stories we've heard some form of closure. Or better yet, justice. Whatever that might look like. Digging through the files, we came across the formal statement made by one of the police officers who worked with Golubski, Max Seifert. When we spoke to him, he confirmed that many people turned a blind eye to what Galupski was doing during his time working for the kckpd. In his statement, Max goes so far as to say all of the detectives, along with older officers and the commanders, all knew. No one in the department questioned Galupski's conduct. No one raised any questions about whether it was proper or could cause a problem of any kind. This was not news to us, but still, it was shocking to see it on paper, see a legal document that outlined how people in positions of power had seemingly allowed this to happen. There was something else in Max's declaration that jumped out to us. He draws attention to the fact that these women were often poor and vulnerable, and that Golubski would be seen in places like housing projects or while leaving cheap hotels where prostitutes were known to serve their customers. Housing projects. We knew he targeted vulnerable women, but how far did he take it? As we dug a little deeper, we came across the statement of someone we'd never heard of before. Yeah. Have you seen this before? I think this is the first time I've seen this. This is the first time I've seen was a six page affidavit signed by a woman named Tina Peterson. It formed part of a case Lamont's team brought a few years ago to sue the Unified Government for their role in his false conviction. You reading it now? Yeah, and I'm starting to make some connections that are making me very comfortable right now. Tina's affidavit jumped out at us because her story takes us back to the mid-1980s, right around the time that Golubski was becoming a detective. Back then, Tina was working as a victim advocate at an emergency Refuge in Kansas City. It's now called the delagil Joyce H. Williams Shelter for survivors of domestic violence. Hundreds of women came through its doors looking for an empathetic ear and a safe place to sleep. Tina's words are read by an actor. I generally worked the overnight shift. That shift tended to be pretty busy as women seeking shelter often arrived late at night. Tina saw women walk into the shelter in varying states of distress. They not only showed signs of physical abuse, they also showed signs of emotional or mental abuse. I listened for hours to these women providing counseling and support. One name came up repeatedly. Roger Golubski. They would often be crying, shaking, or showing other intense emotions. During these emotional discussions, they would describe being sexually harassed, threatened and coerced by Golubski. Some described being humiliated when Golubski dumped them back on the street, still undressed when he was done with them. Heart wrenching. Right on point with the way I've seen some of these victims display their insecurities about this guy, their fears about it. I mean, the shaking, the quiverness in their voice and how traumatized these women are, because a lot of people can't. I don't know if they don't want to deal with it in their head about the trauma that these women have faced, but it's horrific. It really is a real life horror story. We knew about the abuse. We'd heard the stories from the cemeteries. So it wasn't what Tina saw at those shelters that jumped out at us. It was what she did next. I called the police department so I could make a complaint about Roger Golubski and told the person who answered that I worked at the battered women's shelter. The person on the phone said that someone at the department would get back with me. And as requested, I left my name and phone number. I waited a week and called the police department a second time. No one from the department ever called me back. This is horrific. This is horrible. Yeah. And I feel for Tina because I know you don't work at a bad or women's shelter for no reason. That's not just a job that you just pick up on the side. You take on that job because you have a heart for people, or either you've been down that road, been down that road. She was connected to these women, so. So I could only imagine Tina's frustration. They're coming to the shelter for help. This woman is there to help, and she's trying to help by going to the entity that is there doing the harm. The harm. But if so many people are given the same name over and over, over and over again. This person had no other choice but to go to the police department, because that is where you go when there's a crime. But where do you go when the police is the person committing the crime? Where do you go? We tried to reach out to Tina directly. We haven't been able to track her down. But if the events in Tina's affidavit are accurate and the other people's accounts we've read are true, the KCKPD either overlooked or ignored several complaints. Had they acted sooner, pulled Golubski from his duties and conducted a formal investigation, it's possible that they could have protected the women of Kansas City from decades worth of abuse. If Golubski had been stopped in the mid-80s, he would have never been able to lure Nico's sister Stacy into his police car and assault her. He wouldn't have been able to arrest Lamont McIntyre or intimidate Nico into giving false testimony. And Rhonda and Monique, Nico's friends, who were murdered shortly after she saw them get into Galupski's car. Both of their lives ended in 1998. It was a devastating realization. So many people's lives would have turned out differently if Golubski had been stopped sooner. But there's something else. We were about to read the next part of Tina's affidavit and discover even more about Galupski. That he may have been involved with something even darker than we could have possibly imagined. It just wouldn't have never crossed my mind in that manner. I can't believe that. That magnitude that is. Wow. That much explosiveness. They cover up everything. They won't tell you nothing. It angered me once I realized that I could have been one of them. That's coming up on the final episode of the Girlfriends Untouchable. The Girlfriend's Untouchable is produced by novel for iHeart podcast. For more from Novel, visit Novel Audio. The show is narrated by me, Nikki Richardson. It was written and produced by Rufaro Mazarua. The editor is Joe Wheeler. Our assistant producer is Mohamed Ahmed. The researcher is Zayana Youssef. Production management from Sheree Houston and Joe Savage. The fact checker is Findl Fulton. Sound mixing and scoring by Daniel Kimpson with additional engineering by Nicholas Alexander. Music supervision by Rufaro Mazurua, Nicholas Alexander and Joe Wheeler. Original music by Amanda Jones. The Girlfriends theme was composed by Amanda Jones and Louisa Gerstein. The voice of Tina Peterson was read by Ebony Janelle. 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