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Tom Holman
So good, so good, so good.
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Glenn Beck
All right, the latest of Graham Platner. I mean what is this saga? It just never ends. Also, the price of oil possibly dropping to $40 a barrel. Sounds like a good thing, right? Be careful. Be careful what you wish for. It is a good thing and a double edged sword. Also, Tom Holman stops by tomorrow. Our special comes out on YouTube. You'll be able to see it for free on YouTube about immigration the Golden Door. He's by to talk about that golden door and what we're doing to secure that golden door. He is plain spoken and he is on today's Best of Podcast. Some people feel kind of stuck right now. On one hand, they built up a lot of equity in their home over the years, but on the other hand, they're looking at that low mortgage rate that they've had for a long time. Like it's a family heirloom that you need to protect at all costs. I get it. If you locked into a really good rate a few years ago, the idea of refinancing your entire mortgage right now probably feels like a horrible financial decision. That's why I want you to know about the Smart Equity loan from American Financing. It is designed to help you access the equity in your home without giving up your low first mortgage rate. So whether you're trying to pay off high interest, credit card debt, handle a big expense, make improvements to your home, or just give yourself some financial breathing room, this could be a really smart option to look into. Call American Financing. They actually will take the time to talk you through your specific situation. There's no upfront fees to find out if you even qualify for, so call them now. 8009-0624-4080-0906-2440 or american financing.net nmls 182334 nmlsconsumeraccess.org apr for rates in the five starts at 6.327% for well qualified borrowers, call 800-906-2440. For details about credit costs and terms, visit american financing.net Average savings based on borrowers who save over $200 hello America. You know we've been fighting every single day. We push back against the lies, the censorship, the. The nonsense of the mainstream media that they're trying to feed you. We work tirelessly to bring you the unfiltered truth because you deserve it. But to keep this fight going, we need you right now. Would you take a moment and rate and review the Glenn Beck podcast? Give us five stars and lead a comment, because every single review helps us break through Big Tech's algorithm to reach more Americans who need to hear the truth. This isn't a podcast. This is a movement. And you're part of it, a big part of it. So if you believe in what we're doing, you want more people to wake up, help us push this podcast to the top rate, review, share. Together, we'll make a difference. And thanks for standing with us. Now, let's get to work.
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Tom Holman
You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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Glenn Beck
All right, so in Politico yesterday, an ex girlfriend of Graham Platner alleged that the Marine Senate hopeful broke into her home and raped her about five years ago. Well, that was a dark period. She came forward to Politico recalling the alleged rape in graphic detail and providing cooperation. And she's done this before. She did this at the New York Times, but the New York Times downplayed it. She felt she really. After seeing what was happening in the New York Times and how the New York Times handled her, but also the other woman who came out and said the same thing and how the New York Times handled this, she said she needed to take one more stab at it, and so she did. Now everybody is starting to jump ship on this guy. I want to start with. Now, let me go to the story first, because I really want you to feel this story. It was late 2021 in Maine, woman at home at night. Man, she's dated on and off, nothing serious. The kind of thing that fades. He. He says, hey, I want to come in. He's hammered. Like, blackout drunk, hammered. Lets himself into her house. He's drunk. She says, stop, stop. He doesn't. She kind of wrestles him away. She runs into the bedroom, closes the door. He comes into the bedroom. And she said, and that's where he raped me. She kept saying, stop, stop, stop. She said, you know, there is this single moment, she'll say years later, where the thought finally formed in her mind. There's. This is no longer my choice. He might kill me. Just stop fighting. She did. Now, that's the accusation. He says, no, no, no, that wasn't.
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Tom Holman
Huh.
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Glenn Beck
Graham Platner is the guy. And until this morning, he was the Democratic Party's nominee for the United States Senate. He's an oyster farmer. He's a Marine, working class outsider who was going to retire Susan Collins and stick a thumb in the eye of everybody he called an oligarchy. He denies this. He says it is false. Categorically untrue. Time to the ballot deadline. I'm going to get to that here in a second. He denies it. That's important. But I also want to tell you that the denial is not part of the story. It's not the story. At least the story is the year that came before this denial. Because this morning, the moment the allegation hit, the people who built him began quietly and all at once to set him down and walk away. And the endorsements peeled off by the hour. And I want you to notice when they left not a year ago. Now, let me show you the file on this guy. Not the assault allegation. Set that aside. Unproven, denied. You know, everything else. Everything else that was known about this guy. The tattoo on his chest, it's a death head. A specific one the SS wore on the caps of men who ran the death camps. He said, I didn't know. Honestly, guys, you'll relate to this. I don't know if women can relate to this. Do you know a single guy who would have that tattoo and wouldn't know? Guys are fascinated by old Nazi movies and documentaries. Been watching them for our whole lives. You didn't know. Then an old acquaintance surfaced who remembered him showing it off years earlier and calling it something he had pride with. He said, my token cough. That means you know exactly what it was. But he covered it with a Celtic knot. And then he moved on. Then there were his own words, written and deleted, telling women who had been assaulted to take some responsibility and to act like an adult. There were the messages he sent to women who were not his wife, who he had just. He just married a few months before. Then there were three former girlfriends describing something volatile. One of them said that he had physically held her down.
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Tom Holman
He.
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Glenn Beck
He denied that one, too. He called himself, in his own defense, far from a perfect boyfriend. And he blamed a dark period. Oh, it was a dark period. You know, I've had dark periods in my life. I've never beaten a woman or raped her. I've never held a woman down. Anyway, every single time the men who had staked their names on him looked at the file and made the same calculation. He went through a dark period. And he's not the only one. He's not the only one. You know, there might be one or two important issues here. One of his defenders sneered. The critics only wanted only perfect candidates off the Harvard Law conveyor belt. As if an objection to a Nazi tattoo and a trail of frightened ex girlfriends were just a matter of etiquette. As if character were a luxury for people who could afford to lose. They all could read the file. Everyone could read the file. It was sitting open on the table the whole time. They chose not to read it because they needed to win, because he. He might be able to beat Collins, because he could stop them. Them being whoever they need to be stopped at the time. And when the goal is big enough and the enemy is frightening enough, a man will hold a document in his hands and decide, yeah, I'm gonna put this down for a minute because I don't need to look in that document folder. That is the whole machinery, and we've talked about it for months of ends justify the means. It's not the people. It's not that people don't see. People do see it. They see it and they price it in. They look at the warning and they weigh it against the prize, and the prize is so big and so heavy. So the warning gets rounded down to nothing, to a dark period, to a mistake we've all made. Are you perfect to one or two less important issues? I'm not hiring the Pope. Now watch them leave. Not because something finally became wrong. It was wrong a year ago in plain sight. It's leave. They're leaving now. Because it finally became fatal. And I'm going to get to. Why is it fatal now? So you know, this is not conscience arriving late. This is all arithmetic. The number changed, the answer changed. They were never doing moral math. They were doing electoral math and calling it principle. And the two happened to point the same direction until today, when it no longer points in the same direction. So now where are you? Because this was never a story about the Senate seat in Maine. And if you let it stay one, you're going to miss the entire thing. This is a story about the file that you keep. What does that mean?
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Tom Holman
Glenn,
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Glenn Beck
every one of us runs an opposition research on the people we want to believe in. And when the folder turns up something that we don't like, we bury it ourselves. We all do it. We become the campaign bearing its own file. Because the alternative is giving up something we've already decided we are going to have. At every single one of these turns, there's the same voice. This is a smear. This is out of state. Operatives, they're. They're threatened by us. They hate us. Don't listen to them. I have to point out, because I want you to hear at least part of that again. I. I want you to. I want you to know we've heard this ourselves on our own side. But I want you to listen to this again here. Not as politics. I want you to hear it as marriage. Because that is exactly word for word what an abuser says. Your friends are jealous. Your family never liked me. They're threatened by what we have. Our love is special. They want to take this from you. Don't listen to them. Listen to me. You know the truth. And the terrible genius of it is that the more warning signs pile up, the harder the target clings. And not despite the red flags, but because of them. And it might be because now she's too far in to admit, you know, that everybody around her was right the whole time. See, this is the pattern. That's the next pattern I told you that we would look for. Once you see the shape of it, you'll see it absolutely everywhere. It always runs exactly the same way. It starts with the love bombing. You. I chose you. I serve you. You're special. You know, no one has ever understood you and your problems. Yeah, people really have been bad to you. Right? I. I get it. I get it. But we're gonna go someplace. We're gonna do some things the world has never seen before because I'm tired of them abusing you. The largest movement in the history of Maine politics. Then the first violation. It's small, and you let it go. Because everybody's imperfect. I mean, look at how good this is going to be. Look at what we already built. Then a bigger one. But now you've got things invested, so you explain it away. Then the isolation. He goes to work on the people you love, one by one, because they're still able to see things clearly. And Clarity is the enemy. He needs you surrounded by him and his friends, so only his voice is the voice left in the room. And by the time the big one lands, the one you can't explain, you're so deep. It just doesn't even feel like you're ever going to be able to escape. It feels like humiliation. I defended you to everyone. I gave a year of my life. If I walk out now, what does that make me? And so you stay. And you tell yourself the excuse. Pick your excuse. They're all interchangeable. Too much invested. Too Far gone, too embarrassing to admit. He's going to change. Something's going to change. It'll be worth it in the end. I'll be the one who saves it. Nobody in an abusive relationship believes they're in an abusive relationship. They believe they're in a hard relationship, that they alone are strong enough to fix that. Somehow or another, it's going to change. And the lies don't shrink. Watch this, because this is the tell here. In a healthy thing, when you get caught, the offense gets smaller over time because you're actually correcting it. In an abusive thing, the lies get bigger and they get more destructive to your life. Outside of his world, your job becomes affected, your money, your family, your name. Because your world outside of him is competition, and it has to be burned down until he is all you've got left. Does any of this ring true with politics at all? And he keeps saying, it's them, it's them. And if you spot a problem, he says, I'm going to change. And it never changes. It only ever escalates. That's not a bug in the pattern. That is the pattern. And at the end of the road, there's a word for what you have found yourself in. And the word is cult. It is not a metaphor. A cult is just an abusive relationship scaled up to fill a crowd. Okay? Same isolation, same enemies list. Same leader who is the only source of truth. Notice that. The only source of truth. Same members who have sunk so much of themselves that walking away would mean their whole life was a lie. And that person is going to defend that lie a lot longer than they will defend the truth, because the truth does not cost them anything and the lie costs them everything. There's got to be somebody within the sound of my voice who is listening, who are just thinking four words right now. Yeah, but Donald Trump. That's how this becomes inevitable. And let me explain, because you need to know the lesson from all of this. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for. Listen, all right, I want to start with gas before we get to the world. Let me. Let me explain right now. There have been some forces that want to break up opec, and I'm all for it myself, but. There's about to be a glut of oil. I can't believe I'm saying this. About to be a glut of oil. So we're going to have the opposite problem. Remember, the problem was if we go into Iran, we're going to have $300 barrel oil. And it collapsed the economy. Yeah, that would do it overnight. $150 barrel of oil. That does it in about three weeks, but so does $40 a barrel oil. $30 barrel oil. I mean, everybody loves cheaper gasoline. I do. But there is a number when cheap becomes dangerous. And I want you to think about Goldilocks, okay? One bowl of porridge too hot, one bowl too cold. One bowl was just right. The oil market works exactly the same way, okay? If oil is $150 plus a barrel, you can't afford to drive. Airlines suffer, trucking companies suffer. Food prices rise. Because everything that you buy rides on a diesel truck or a TR before it leaves the store or before it reaches the store. And so, too expensive. $150 is too high. There's another side. Nobody ever talks about this side. Oil can become too cheap. Now, how the heck is that possible? Imagine owning, I don't know, an apple orchard. Every apple cost you about four bucks to grow, okay? That's your land. The water, the fertilizer, what you pay people for workers, the spraying down, the equipment, all of that. Then the market suddenly decides apples are only worth $2. Well, you don't celebrate and go, oh, I'm going to sell so many apples. No, because remember, it costs you more than that to grow the apple, so you go bankrupt. That's exactly what happens with oil. Oil doesn't magically appear in your gas tank. It takes a lot of money. Companies spend years looking for oil. They lease the land, they drill wells. You know, that can cost millions and millions of dollars. And sometimes they just drill holes and lose everything they have to maintain the pipelines, the workers, the repair equipment, the transport of every single barrel. I mean, it's pretty amazing when you think they're going to pump oil out of the ground in Saudi Arabia. They're going to ship it to wherever they're going to process. They put it into a barrel, they put that onto a ship, and they ship it halfway across the world, and it's $40 for that barrel. That's pretty amazing. I mean, try to buy a decent pair of jeans for 30. $40 a barrel, $60 a pair of jeans. Now, if oil falls below what it costs to produce, the companies stop drilling and the wells eventually dry up. Do you know why we don't make oil out of shale? We have plenty of shale for oil. And Reagan was going on this big shale oil kick, and he was like, we're just going to make our shale. Well, I think. And don't Quote me on this. You'll have to check it, but I think the number is like $60 a barrel. Break even is $60 a barrel for, for shale oil. You have to go into the mountain, you have to get the shale, then you have to turn it into oil. And you, then you do all the processing on that, put it in the barrel and ship it to wherever. It's like $60 to do that. So if I'm not mistaken, OPEC decided to shut us down by dropping the number to like, I don't remember, $50 a barrel. And so they made. They put a glut out and they dropped it. And they could afford to drop it because they know they're going to win in the end. They'll put all of their competition out of business. And so they dropped the price of oil. And so now it was just too expensive for shale. And so what happens? We had to shut the shale plants down now to shut the whole shale thing. It wasn't the environmentalist, at least not the environmentalists alone. It was the fact that we couldn't afford to do it, at least at that time. And so when that happens, what happens here in America? I mean, this is why. Don't celebrate. Don't celebrate $40 a barrel. Because. Worker. Have you watched Landman? Remember how, how the character in Landman explain this? Yeah. That's when everyone loses their jobs. All the workers lose their job, Entire towns disappear. So then what? Well, not every country produces oil for the same cost. Saudi Arabia has the cheapest oil in the world. You know what it costs them to take it out of the ground and ship it halfway across the world? They can pull a barrel out of the ground for well under $20 a barrel. $20 a barrel. Shale, like I said, is different. Much of Texas, North Dakota, New Mexico, they need prices that are significantly higher to justify new drilling. Some wells can make money at around $40 a barrel. But the new projects, most of them are closer to 50, 60 and even more depending on the field and the financing. So $40 a barrel is not just cheap gasoline. It's layoffs. Hey, it's drilling rigs shut down. It's restaurants in Midland, Texas, with empty tables. It's welding shops, clothing closing, it's truck dealerships with nobody buying because every drilling rig supports hundreds of other job. One roughneck loses his paycheck, then the waitress loses the customers. Then the hardware store sells last. The local bank gets nervous and it spreads throughout the whole community. We are dependent on one another. And Texas has lived this Story several times before I lived in Texas in the crash of the 1980s, the great oil crash of the 1980s, and the office buildings were complete. It was a ghost town. It was a ghost town. The office buildings were empty. The banks failed. The families, you know, were.
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Tom Holman
Were.
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Glenn Beck
Were packing everything they owned up into a pickup truck because there was nowhere to work in Texas. Oil isn't just another business in Texas. Oil is the heartbeat of entire regions of Texas. Now look east. Russia's watching this price really, really carefully as well, because Russia depends on oil and gas to support its government, which supports its people. So they take the oil and they sell it. And think of oil in Russia as a paycheck, okay? Every drop in that price shrinks the paycheck of the federal government. And that's really important. When prices stay low long enough, Moscow has fewer rubles to pay for their soldiers. Fewer rubles to build things, to, you know, build tanks, to. To replace missiles. That's an advantage to us. Fewer rubles to be able to finance their economy and subsidize everything. That doesn't mean Russia immediately collapses, but it means it's headed in that direction. Countries can borrow. They can also cut spending. But a long period of oil prices that are $40, that would squeeze Russia exactly where it hurts. And it's not good for them. Not good for them. History tells us this matters. It was the low energy price. According to a lot of historians, low energy prices. In the 1980s, one of the pressures that weakened the Soviet Union, energy imports or exports were the Soviet government's atm. They needed to have that. And when the cash dried up, the entire system began to crack. Okay, so let me go back to opec, because this is where OPEC comes back in, okay? People think OPEC controls the prices. They don't. I mean, they do not completely think of OPEC like the manager of a really crowded movie theater. If too many tickets are sold, then what happens? The theater is uncomfortable, unusable. If too few tickets are sold, the theater loses money. Their job is to keep attendants in the sweet spot. So when the. When the prices fall too far, OPEC cuts production. Not because they hate consumers, although they're not doing us any favor. But they do know that if producers go bankrupt today, there won't be oil tomorrow. And then the prices don't go to 40, they go to 140. Okay? The oil market is just this giant pendulum, and it's just too high, too low, too high, too low, too high, too low. Oh, it's. It's Exhausting. But the healthiest economy doesn't live at either extreme, too high or too low. It lives right smack in the middle. High enough that people keep investing, low enough so families can still fill their tanks. Does the cheapest, I mean, $25 gas? That would be sweet until you saw how many of your neighbors are going to be unemployed. And the most profitable oil company in the world. You know, it doesn't help much if working families can't afford to drive to work. So, like everything in the, in economics, stability is worth more than the extremes. I will tell you that I want to give you some broad strokes on a conversation I had with the President on Friday, because we talked about oil, the economy and, and Iran. And I don't want to quote him, I don't have permission to quote him, but I can give you some idea of how I felt of what he was saying. My feeling is he went into this war knowing that oil would not be $300 a barrel. Remember, that's what everybody's saying, 150 to $350 per barrel. And he looked at that, and he looked at the advisors that were saying that and said, that's not true. It's not going to happen. And I think that's because he knew how he was going to fight it. And he, he knew there are ways to get around that, so we're not going to have that. And he was right about that. And so he went and he fought it with everything he could. And I want to, I want to stick, I want to make sure I separate my feelings with what I felt he said. So he knew that was happening and he knew that we were not going to have a Great Depression because oil was going to be $300 a barrel. But my impression is some new information came to him here recently and was like, okay, that's about as far as you can push it in this phase. And if you continue to do it like he was doing it, we will go into a depression. And I will tell you, the President has said to me before, I will not be Herbert Hoover. He's very clear on the lessons of other presidents. And he's like, I am not going to push this country into a depression. And I think, I think some new information, and I don't know what it is, but I think some new information came to him and said, look, if you don't stop and change this pattern, we could go into a global depression. And he did not want that for the American people or for, you know, the rest of the world. Quite honestly, you know, you could even be, you could really even say he was being selfish. He just didn't want to do it for him. Whatever. We get the benefit of not going into a depression. So that's why it looks like you're not going to get the deal that you want. But I will tell you after talking to him. Is this too cryptic? Jason, are you following this? It is my impression that you are going to get what you want because he's going to continue to take them out. He will continue to bomb them. I mean, he, I feel comfortable saying this. He told me, oh, they will comply, Glenn. They will come to the table. They will fold. Yeah, what makes you say that? Because I'll kill them. I just keep dropping bombs and I'll kill all of their leaders. He said to me, I'm not going to blow up their bridges or their infrastructure. That would be bad for them and bad for us. But their leaders, they will comply. He's not changing the end. What he's changing his end goal. What he's changing is the tactic because he is concerned about a global depression for some reason. If we didn't change our tactic.
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Guest Analyst
Yeah, I don't think it's too cryptic at all. I think that there's a lot of stuff that they can tell us about and there's a lot of stuff they can't tell us about. What I do know is what's odd now are just what's interesting to analyze or important to analyze is right now two of the largest oil producing countries in the world are currently under duress. Not only under duress, but their oil production is specifically being targeted. Ukraine is now, just a few days ago, hit one of their biggest refineries in far Eastern Russia. Russia is under severe strain right now with their oil production. And we all know about Iran. That's two huge countries. And opec, the cartel is also under duress because they are having defections. OPEC left or UAE left. Opec and I could see that coming down. So what we see going forward in the future, I don't feel like is going to be at all what we've seen over the past, what, 50 years or so. Everything is about to change.
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Glenn Beck
This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. And now we're arguing about birthright citizenship. Why all these suicide pacts? The 14th Amendment was specifically written for the children of freed slaves, not for people who fly in, have a baby and claim instant citizenship for the child while the parents stay illegal. That's insanity. That's not what the authors intended. And pretending otherwise is madness and wildly dishonest. We're also not the destination of import for false and dangerous ideologies, nor corruption from people who come here fleeing corruption. The Somali fraud cases. People were brought here under the promise that they would strengthen America. And what happens with some of our own politicians help? They set up massive welfare scams, ripping off the very taxpayers that welcomed them here. We brought you in to make America better, and now you're stealing from us. That is not the huddled masses yearning to breathe free. That's a clip from Golden Door, the 14th Amendment and Somali fraud. And I talked to the President over the weekend. He said, I just saw the special. He says, great. Everybody should. Everybody should see this special. You'll learn an awful lot. And you'll learn that immigration is not a suicide pact. It's called the Golden Door. It's available now@glenn beck.com torch. Tom Holman is with me. He is our border czar and, and the guy who went in and fixed Minnesota. What an incredible job. That thing was spiraling out of control and you just show up and it just. It takes care of itself. So thank you for that. Thank you.
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Tom Holman
Yeah. It didn't take care of itself.
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Glenn Beck
Well, no.
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Tom Holman
But, yeah. The President called me one morning, woke me up and said, you need to go to Minnesota and fix this mess. And I said, when? He said, today. So I went up there. Within a few hours, I was on the ground in Minnesota.
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Glenn Beck
So I saw something, gosh, just today where they. Oh, no, it was. It was Mamdani on 4th of July saying that these guys just show up in masks and unmarked vans and they're just taking all these people away. Can you respond to that?
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Tom Holman
You know what Mondami doesn't understand? We're doing the same thing we've done for decades. We're enforcing immigration law. And the reason we're wearing masks is because of the 8,000% increase in death threats. I mean, just not against the agents, against their spouses and their children. So, same thing. I've yelled at every Democrat on the Hill that says, take the mask off. I said, we'll take the mask off when you stop going on national media and call and comparing ICE to the Nazis and the secret police. Because you are driving the hate. You are driving the hateful rhetoric that's causing the spike in attacks. I said, so why don't you support ice? Because they're enforcing laws that you wrote. So if they're, if they're the secret police for enforcing that, what's that make you. You wrote the law, so stop the hateful rhetoric and mask can come off quickly.
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Glenn Beck
There's no chance of that happening, is there? They don't seem to be slowing down. And I don't understand, how do you deal with a city like New York that's a sanctuary city and they're not going to comply? How are we a country if cities can just pick and choose what they want to do? And they're becoming more and more belligerent about it.
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Tom Holman
Exactly. So, you know, thank God Todd Blanche and his people are filing lawsuits against sanctuary cities. And some are looking good. A few, we've had some recent setbacks and a couple of them. But you got radical judges that make decisions not based on law, but out of hatred for the Trump administration. But we're appealing those decisions, so I really think we'll be successful in the sanctuary city lawsuits. And what I explained to Governor Holcomb. You want to talk about Minnesota? Governor Holcomb just signed legislation that ended our 287 agreements with some big sheriffs in New York State. She refused for any county jail to work with us on retention space. And I sat down with her, explained to her what we did in Minnesota. I says, you know, way we fix Minnesota, we gain support from the local sheriffs so we can arrest the bad guy in the safety and security of a jail, which is safer for the agent, safer for the alien, and SAFER the community. 1. One agent, arrest one bad guy. But what you force us in Minnesota to do, since they're a sanctuary state, we got to send a whole team out, which is six or seven fugitive operations, six or seven people on a fugitive team, operation team to go arrest somebody in the public. So if you let us into jail, rather than, you know, six people on the streets looking at this guy, we got one person in jail. It just makes sense. And that's how we won Minnesota. We got unprecedented support. So that caused us to take more, more of our agents off the street and do it in the jail. And I explained it to Governor Hochul, and I said, because when you force us into the street, we gotta send teams out there to do that. When we find the bad guy, which we will many times are with others. Others that are in the country illegally may not be a public safety threat, but they're coming, too. So it results in more agents in the streets, it results in more collateral rest. And it's a community safety issue when you release a public safety threat back.
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Guest Analyst
How did.
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Glenn Beck
How does she respond to that?
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Tom Holman
Completely ignored and signed the legislation three weeks later. And that's why I told her, now you forced us to send more agents to New York to enforce immigration law when it would have took less because you took the efficiencies of the jail way. And what she's ignoring is the fact now we can't rent a bed from a sheriff, so every illegal alien we arrest in New York will be immediately put on an airplane and sent out of state. How does that benefit the immigrant community? And, you know, you know, don't go to proceedings. Yeah, they have no access to their family because we moved out of state. So it was about protecting immigrant community. This is about her supporting sanctuary.
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Glenn Beck
Isn't there something in the Constitution about the supremacy of the federal law?
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Tom Holman
Absolutely. And I think that's why DOJ is all over this. So many sanctuary cities.
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Glenn Beck
You think that's coming next?
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Tom Holman
Well, they've already filed lawsuits against several, and we got to keep doing it. I know Todd Blanch is serious about. President Trump's serious about taking these sanctuary cities on, but what sanctuary cities are causing because of their policies is we're going to flood the zone. I mean, we got to send. We got 10,000 new agents, about 8,000 on board right now. All these new resources are going to be assigned to sanctuary cities because that's where the problem is. We don't have that problem in Florida. Right. We don't have that problem in Texas. The sheriffs and chiefs are working with us. So when you take that efficiency away and we got to send more few job teams out, that's where the surge of agents are going to go to sanctuary states like New York, when you
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Glenn Beck
put the agents, or maybe you didn't do it, but ICE agents went in and they were serving at airports, I think, during the shutdown. And I went through an airport and they were handing out water and they were polite and nice. And I thought, this is, this is the best PR for ICE I've seen. You have to hire more people to do all these things. They are so hated by some. Are you concerned at all about them turning dark at all just because of what they have to go through, that they just become callous?
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Tom Holman
No. I think, you know, every agency, there's bad dentists or bad doctors, and, you know, every agency has her share of issues, but I think the men and women, ice, that performs remarkable under the. Under the stress, the airports. President Trump, again, I had more jobs than Marco Rubio because he called me up that one day, says he needs agents at the airport. What do you think about Agents at the airport, Tom, I said, I think it's a brilliant idea. It goes good, you're in charge of it. So. But, you know, but doing that, number one, we were able to secure the airports. A lot of TSA agents were out. We secure the exit lanes. We're able to, you know, move people through the lines quicker, get the traveling Americans through the airport quicker. And. But it also did what you just said. It put a. It put a new face on ice because they don't have to wear masks in the airport without doing operations. Right. And it got people to interact with them, and they understood, look, these are great people. These are moms and dads, too. You know, they have children, they have families, and they're simply there to help the American people travel and keep the airport safe.
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Glenn Beck
This birthright, or the birthright citizenship, you know, in Texas, we've seen this, this birthing center that is China. Are there ways. Are you guys going in and arresting and breaking that? Is there anything you can do to the people who are running those things?
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Tom Holman
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. But HSI Homeland Security investigation has increased the birth tourism investigations. People who come under. Who lie in application come under false pretenses. They come in here for business or coming here, you know, for pleasure, in fact, to come here for birth. So HSI is looking at the birth tourism investigations. They've tripled down on it, especially after the Supreme Court decision. So, you know, it's unfortunate the decision came about. I'm not an attorney, but I can tell you birthright citizenship is a major driver of illegal immigration, number one. But number two, more concerning is the national security issue. When you have hundreds of thousands of US Citizens from China and Russia and other countries who are not our friends that can come back to this country
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Glenn Beck
and change, how real is that? People would say, oh, please. It's most. Mostly not that. How real is that?
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Tom Holman
It's real. I mean, if anybody thinks, you know, you know, China is not our friend, you know, and I don't think Russia is our friend. And they're the two biggest countries that deal with coming to the United States for birth tourism. You got Chinese and, you know, the North Mariana Highlands and Guam. I mean, it's a real issue, and it's something we're looking at right now. We're doubling, tripling down on it, because the recent decision, it's just going to inspire more people, take advantage of it. It's a national security issue that could have been fixed with the right decision, but now we got to live with it. And we got to deal with it.
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Glenn Beck
President told me maybe six months ago, we were talking on the phone and I said, how concerned are you about this birthright sentence? And he said, I'm concerned. He said, I have hope that they're going to do the right thing, but not a lot of hope they're going to do the right thing. But don't worry, we have some things we can do. You know what he was talking about? What can we do?
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Tom Holman
Well, I think again we deal with the national security issue and hold people accountable that are involved in that. But also he needs to push Congress to make some changes and Congress has it. I think Supreme Court lean toward this issue for Congress. So Congress needs to step up and do the right thing. But again, I don't have a lot of hope in them either. I hope they do the right thing. But you know, same thing with the Save America Act. I mean, isn't that the right thing to do? So we'll see. But President has punted that over to Congress and asked Congress to take a hard look at this and make something happen. So let's, let's hope that happens.
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Glenn Beck
Can you give me some stats on like how many people were here when you came into office? How many people are gone now? How many are self deporting?
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Tom Holman
How?
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Glenn Beck
I mean we had a obvious, I think we had a slowdown there for a while of getting the bad guys out because you were dealing with things like, you know, Minnesota. It just feels like that. Is this on track?
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Tom Holman
Where are we? The ICE rest are at record pace. There was a slowdown. I even talked about slowdown. When I looked at it, it was like down 14% higher sometimes. But the Department of Homeland Security was shut down and I was involved. Another job I got was grump hill and negotiate.
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Glenn Beck
It's a problem being competent around Donald Trump, isn't it?
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Tom Holman
So I went up there along with my chief of staff. We sat these negotiations opened DHS up. And I can say without a doubt the reason DHS was shut down is because of Minnesota and what they saw happen in Minnesota. And because they said it, everything they brought up was about Minnesota or Chicago. But when I sat down with him, well, we fixed that. We're already dealing with identify identifiers and uniforms. We already have body cams. We already deployed body cams. Matter of fact, the legislation, the money you're holding UP gives us $120 million to buy more cameras. Do we fix this issue? So, you know, they simply, they didn't want to, you know, see ICE improve. They they were trying to shut down ICE or trying to take authorities away. And I told them day one, I'm not going to sit here and give up any authority ICE has to enforce immigration law. So, you know, I. It worked out great right through the reconciliations. I didn't get any of it. Things they were asking for is ridiculous. But it was all based on Minnesota, why they shut down. And now that we got the reconciliation package does. The numbers are spiking. I told people, just have some faith. There's a plan, and the plan's coming together. Matter of fact report, two days ago, I got the numbers from ICE and they arrested over 10,000 people in less than five days, which is the record for the agency. And that's just ice. It's not ice. Borbato, FBI. DAW had all the government in first year. This is just ice. They're hitting record numbers.
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Glenn Beck
So one of the things. And I've only got about 45 seconds left for this answer, but one of the things that I was always concerned about was the border wall, because that protects us against future. We never thought that an administration would just start flying people over our border. But the border wall, and nobody's really talking about it, we're almost done with it, aren't we?
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Tom Holman
As of this morning, we have already built 132 miles of wall. All the wall since President Trump, plus secondary wall and buoy barriers. Hundreds of miles of buoy berries in the river. So I can say by the end of 2027, every mile wall will be
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Glenn Beck
in the ground, every mile will be in the ground.
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Tom Holman
By end of next year, they're building wall quicker and cheaper than they did during Trump. 45 CBP is doing a great job.
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Glenn Beck
Wow.
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Tom Holman
And thanks. And for that, with the help of Department of War, too. They're underground, too, helping us.
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Glenn Beck
Tom, it's great to see you.
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Tom Holman
Great seeing you, sir. Good.
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Glenn Beck
Good to have you here. Thank you so much. God bless you. All right, keep up the good work. And please thank all of the officers for what they do.
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Tom Holman
God bless every Borbage, Lasian, ICE agent out there.
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Glenn Beck
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