The ONE Way to Make Fauci Talk | Guests: Sec. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. & Sec. Chris Wright | 7/30/26

Summary

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The Glenn Beck Program: “The ONE Way to Make Fauci Talk”

Guests: Sec. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. & Sec. Chris Wright
Air Date: July 30, 2026

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Overview

In this episode, Glenn Beck dives deep into the ongoing controversy surrounding Dr. Anthony Fauci’s refusal to testify before Congress, spurred by the recent release of Fauci’s pandemic-era diary and a sweeping presidential pardon. Beck brings historical and legal context, discusses the consequences of political and bureaucratic maneuvering, and offers a potential solution for compelling Fauci to testify. The program also touches on generational political shifts, the crisis of trust in American institutions, socialism in practice, and includes substantial contributions from guests Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Energy Secretary Chris Wright.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Fauci’s Silence, the Fifth Amendment, and the Power of Pardons

• Recap of Recent Events

  • Dr. Anthony Fauci appeared before Congress and pled the Fifth Amendment 111 times, refusing to answer questions, citing advice from his attorney.
  • Rand Paul released over 1,000 pages from Fauci’s pandemic-era diary, stirring further controversy and public interest ([03:00]).

• Presidential Pardon and Its Limits

  • Beck explains Biden’s "full, unconditional pardon" of Fauci, which covers all federal crimes from January 2015 to January 2026, but not state-level offenses ([05:45]).
  • States are sovereign and cannot be prevented from prosecuting state crimes by a federal pardon.

• Historical Precedent: The Burdick Case

  • Beck references Woodrow Wilson’s 1914 pardon of a newspaper editor to legally compel testimony (Burdick v. United States): a pardon, if refused, has no legal effect ([06:15]).
  • Acceptance of a pardon constitutes a confession of guilt, per the Supreme Court ([08:10]).
  • “A pardon carries an imputation of guilt, and accepting the pardon is a confession of guilt.” – Glenn Beck ([08:48]).

• Congressional Immunity as the Solution

  • A congressional grant of immunity—unlike a pardon—cannot be refused. It compels testimony, removing Fifth Amendment protection and leaving only contempt of Congress as a penalty ([12:20]).
  • “A congressional grant of immunity is the crowbar that doesn’t break.” – Glenn Beck ([13:45])
  • The trade-off: giving immunity means no prosecution for past misdeeds, but ensures the truth is placed on the permanent record.

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2. The Fallout: Loss of Trust and Media Culpability

• Beck and Kennedy discuss the long-term damage caused to public trust in science, medicine, and institutions by Fauci’s actions during the pandemic ([98:50]).

• Media’s role in “deifying” Fauci and silencing critics is highlighted:

  • “Instead of exercising skepticism, the American media elevated this guy, silenced his opponents… It was really an extraordinary situation.” – RFK Jr. ([91:12])

• Kennedy identifies Fauci’s diary as evidence of knowing misstatements, including his personal adverse vaccine reaction (pulmonary infarction) which was never publicly disclosed ([94:00]).

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3. Prescriptions for Restoring Trust: Policy and Cultural Change

• Ending Dangerous Research

  • Kennedy: NIH is formally ending all dangerous “gain of function” research and implementing strong accountability measures ([99:28]).

• Constitutional Protections in Pandemics

  • New pandemic protocols at HHS explicitly incorporate respect for constitutional rights—rejecting the suspension of civil liberties seen during COVID-19 ([100:10]).

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4. Historical Parallels, Generational Shifts, and the Nixon Comparison

• The Nixon Pardon as Historical Mirror

  • Beck draws parallels between Ford’s pardon of Nixon and Fauci’s situation, noting that acceptances of pardons, historically, have often fueled controversy over guilt and accountability ([19:40]).
  • Analysis of Gen Z’s political disaffection: today’s youth are not “in love with Nixon”—they’ve fallen out of love with all politicians ([25:10]).
    • “Gen Z has not fallen in love with Richard Nixon. Gen Z has fallen out of love with everybody in politics. And quite honestly, I think all of us.” – Glenn Beck ([26:05])

• Political Organizing Lessons

  • The story of how Nixon’s campaign mobilized non-college youth and why political parties must treat young people as individuals, not voting blocks ([28:30]).

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5. Socialism in Practice: The NYC Government Grocery Store Lawsuit

• Real-world Example: NYC Government Groceries

  • NYC’s plan to open city-owned grocery stores selling goods at subsidized prices is being challenged by an alliance of small business owners ([49:40]).
  • Beck provides a primer on why government-run businesses with price controls have historically led to shortages, citing ancient Rome and modern Kansas City ([53:40]).
    • “You want to talk about a food desert? The people suing New York this week are not hedge funds. They are the very people who... put their name on an awning in a language their grandmother spoke.” – Glenn Beck ([55:40])

• Better Solutions

  • Beck argues for targeted aid (SNAP, WIC) and slashing red tape, rather than direct government operation of stores ([56:40]).

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6. Parenting, Socialism, and the Socratic Method

• Beck encourages parents to engage their kids in open-ended questions about economic systems, using the Socratic method—listening rather than arguing ([37:50]; [41:36]).
  • “Do not argue with your kids. Do not argue. Just try to find out what they're thinking. It will open a door.” – Glenn Beck ([41:36])
• Caller Cindy shares her experience having a productive, non-confrontational, two-hour conversation with her teen son about socialism ([39:28]; [41:18]).

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7. Energy Policy: Q&A with Energy Secretary Chris Wright

(starting at [67:50])

• New Oil Refineries

  • A major new light sweet crude refinery is planned in Texas—the first in over 50 years—which will help long-term but not ease short-term prices ([68:35]).

• State of U.S. Energy, SPR, and Refineries

  • America is a net exporter of oil and diesel, but imports gasoline due to refining configurations ([69:45]).
  • Previous mismanagement (under Biden) damaged the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR), requiring $100m+ in repairs and years to refill ([71:27]).
  • Wright assures the reserve will be replenished under new policies and emphasizes expanded domestic natural gas and nuclear projects ([72:46]; [77:51]).

• Data Centers & Electricity

  • Contrary to claims, data centers are not causing electricity price increases—states with heavy data center presence often see electricity prices rise slower than inflation ([73:23]).
  • Towns can negotiate substantial benefits from hosting data centers, such as eliminated property taxes ([75:13]).

• Hydrogen, Geothermal, and Future Tech

  • Hydrogen storage is too inefficient/expensive for current needs; geothermal and modular nuclear reactors are promising alternatives ([77:51]; [78:16]).

• Deregulation and Consumer Choice

  • Aim to let consumers—not bureaucrats—choose appliances and fuel standards; the administration is focused on rolling back “deep state” overreach ([79:52]; [80:31]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Pardons and Accountability:

  • “A pardon carries an imputation of guilt, and accepting the pardon is a confession of guilt.” — Glenn Beck ([08:48])
  • “If you give him immunity, you can never prosecute him for what he tells you. You’re trading the handcuffs for the transcript. But quite honestly, the handcuffs are never coming. I want the transcript. Take the transcript.” — Glenn Beck ([12:53])

• On Dialogue With Children:

  • “Do not argue with your kids… just try to find out what they’re thinking.” — Glenn Beck ([41:36])
  • “We talked for two hours and he wants to talk more.” — Cindy (Caller) ([41:18])

• On Generational Politics:

  • “Gen Z has not fallen in love with Richard Nixon. Gen Z has fallen out of love with everybody in politics.” — Glenn Beck ([26:05])

• On Socialism and Government Stores:

  • “You didn't end the food desert. You brought it out and put a city seal on it.” — Glenn Beck ([55:12])
  • “Show me a single example from 362 AD until now where socialism works.” — Glenn Beck ([58:05])

• On Energy Strategy:

  • “We are a meaningful net exporter of oil, a meaningful net exporter of diesel and jet fuel. But we actually import gasoline because the United States consumes a greater percent of our oil in the form of gasoline.” — Chris Wright ([69:45])
  • “Data centers are the best tool we have to help stop the rise of electricity prices in your region.” — Chris Wright ([74:06])

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Important Timestamps

• 02:07: Glenn Beck introduces the main subject—Fauci’s refusal to testify and the problem of accountability.
• 05:46: Analysis of state vs. federal crimes and the limits of presidential pardons.
• 06:15: The Woodrow Wilson/Burdick precedent and legal history of forced testimony.
• 12:20: The case for using congressional immunity instead of relying on criminal prosecution.
• 19:40: Nixon’s pardon and the contemporary resurgence of interest in Nixon.
• 39:28: Cindy’s call-in about Socratic dialogue with her son on socialism.
• 49:40: Breakdown of the NYC government grocery store lawsuit and its economic implications.
• 67:50: Beginning of extended interview with Energy Secretary Chris Wright.
• 89:04: Start of interview with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on Fauci’s diary, the pandemic, and government transparency.
• 98:50: Kennedy on the erosion of trust in the medical establishment and rebuilding institutional credibility.
• 124:01: Discussion of political gridlock in Congress re: the Save America Act.

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Tone and Language

• Energetic, urgent, and often candid—Beck uses humor, historical allusion, and strong opinions.
• Frequent appeals to common sense, institutional memory, and American values.
• Open (sometimes confrontational) dialogue with listeners, guests, and callers.

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Episode Takeaways

• Forcing Fauci to talk: Beck’s key proposal is a congressional grant of immunity that would compel Fauci to testify, putting the truth into the public record rather than seeking elusive criminal penalties.
• Restoring trust: Both Beck and Kennedy argue that only full transparency and structural reform can restore public faith after the pandemic-era failures.
• Historical patterns: The episode contextualizes today’s politics with lessons from the past—presidential pardons, government interventions, and how cultural shifts repeat across generations.
• Policy solutions: On energy, entrepreneurship, and government overreach, guests and host alike emphasize practical, market-based reforms over top-down directives.

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For Further Exploration

• Series Recommendation:
  • Beck’s “Control Freaks in History” and “The American Story” podcast series for deeper historical dives.
• Engagement Challenge:
  • Beck encourages listeners to have open-ended, Socratic conversations with their children about socialism and economics, sharing outcomes on the next episode.

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For full context and nuance on these important discussions, listeners are strongly encouraged to explore the recommended companion podcast episodes and related historical readings.

Transcript

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[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

Swipe the flame, pass it on.

[Glenn Beck]

Crank the game. The fusion of entertainment, enlightenment and empowerment. This is the Glenn Beckman program. 111 times. 111 times he pled the fifth. Hey, what's the color of your tie? On advice of my attorney. What's the. Do you have that folder in front of you? On the vice of my attorney. 111 times. I don't know about you, but I just want justice. I just want justice. And I don't think it's gonna happen. So I have a fallback, which I think might be More important than justice is my aura ring going off. Yeah. I have. I have a proposal. I don't know if you're gonna like it or not, but I base it in history. You know who, you know who. As I'm going through history last night and I'm like, when has this stuff happened before? When does it have. You know where I found it? Woodrow Wilson. So we go to Woodrow Wilson for a Solution here in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about Z Factor. By the way, did I even mention the way I was talking about Fauci? Or does everybody just know? You'd have the best intentions in the world. But if you're running on four or five hours of broken sleep, your brain starts cutting corners, you're in. You get impatient faster. You know, you miss things you should have caught. Little problems feel bigger than they really are. That's not a character flawless. That's exhaustion. There's a reason some of your best ideas show up after a really good night's sleep. Your mind finally has a chance to reset and rest. So I've been telling you about Z Factor. It's not about knocking you out. It's about helping your body do what it was designed to do in the first place. Fall asleep naturally. Stay asleep and wake up feeling like you're actually rested. The people who created Relief Factor developed Z Factor because they understood something important. You don't just need to feel better when you sleep well, you need to think better too. And some days that makes all the difference. Give Z Factor a try. Right now, you can save 46% off your first order. 1995 for 30 day supply, call 800 for relief. That's 1-800-the number for relief or visit relieffactor.com better sleep better days from Z Factor relieffactor.com 111 times Fauci and there's no reason. There's no reason. Okay. Rand Paul had just released more than a thousand pages pages of Foushee's Pandemic Era diary. How did he get that? Rfk. Guess who's on the show today. Rfk? Yeah. I want to know about the diary. How'd you find him? What else do you think is there? What was the thing that stood out to you? Why would he do that? Anyway, RFK is coming up. So Fauci in his opening statement says it's Paul's obvious obsession with me that leaves me no choice but to say nothing. And then one of his lawyers gets thrown outta the room. If you were here yesterday, you witnessed with live. Oh yeah. Okay. Few hours later, a little marching band marched, Marched through my head. Ba ba, ba da da, ba da da. I had fireworks. Thank you, Florida. The attorney general in Florida posted Foushee's lack of candor to Congress is unbelievable. My office is launching an investigation into Dr. Fauci.

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

This.

[Glenn Beck]

Now, if you want that little marching band to continue to go on, you should take a pause.

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

Okay.

[Glenn Beck]

If you're listening as a podcast, forward past the next minute and a half. Okay? 17 state attorney generals have already written to Congress asking for evidence. Florida is the first one to actually move. And the reason your phone lit up is simple. Biden's pardon of Fauci, full unconditional, covering 11 years. January 14, January 2025, only reaches federal crimes. That is really important. Federal crimes. A president can't pardon a state offense. Why? And this is so important, this word is so important to understand on so many levels because the states are a separate sovereign. The states are each sovereign. Now, 17 attorney generals have, you know, been looking into it, and you feel good. Hold off on the fireworks, because let me tell you what a pardon actually is. We've been here before. Woodrow Wilson. February 1914. Man named George Burdick. He is the city editor of a newspaper called the New York Tribune. The Tribune has just run a story about fraud at the New York Customs House, and a federal grand jury wants to know who leaked it. Burdick takes the Fifth. He won't give up his source. So Woodrow Wilson does something really clever. He pardons him. Now, not out of mercy. Burdick wasn't charged with anything. Wilson pardoned him to take his silence away because the Fifth Amendment protects you from incriminating yourself. And a pardoned man can't incriminate himself. Does this sound familiar? Wilson's pardon says so right on the fate, right on his face. It recites that Berdick is expected to refuse to testify and then absolves him of everything he might be asked about. That wasn't a gift. That was a crowbar. Okay, well, George Burdick, city editor, not a lawyer. No title, no army. He got that pardon, and he's like, wait a minute. Well, you're pardoning for what? I didn't do anything. And he said, no, no, Woodrow Wilson, I don't want your pardon. And they fight him $500 and put him in jail. Okay, I don't want it. January 25, 1915. Supreme Court sided with Burdick. Justice McKenna wrote that a pardon has to be accepted to be. To exist. Okay, it's an offer. Listen to this. It's an offer. Delivery is not complete without acceptance. And no court has the power to force a man who doesn't want it. So Chief Justice Marshall had said the same thing back in 1833. Nobody had tested it at 80 years. All right, why? Why? The court said that the part that should stop the celebration in your kitchen. A pardon carries an imputation of guilt, and accepting the pardon is a confession of guilt. So what Fauci said early on was, I have no reason. I. I can. I can answer anything in front of Congress. I have nothing to hide. And then he's pardoned. That's a confession of guilt according to the Supreme Court. Okay? Fauci accepted his. And that's why I think everybody came apart yesterday. Because if a pardon strips away the reason to be silent, a pardon man has nothing left to protect. Whether that logic still holds is genuinely unsettled law, and it is the fight that Paul is picking with a contempt vote. Here's what happened yesterday. Here's what Foushee did. Okay? What Foushee did was say, I'm not gonna answer any questions. Why? Everything you did in the past is already pardoned. So they can't get you. Rand Paul can't get you on anything you did in the past unless you're lying to Congress today. He can get you if you lie to Congress today. We know now because we have enough documentation on Foushee. He lied to Congress. So. So Rand Paul was like, okay, here's this document. How come you said this here? And then you told us differently? Here's this document proving you did this, and you said you never did that. That's what was happening yesterday. So he would have gone to jail if he answered truthfully. His ego will not allow him to answer anything other than, I didn't do those things, which is a lie, which would have put him in prison. Okay? So we have a problem. We have a guy whose ego is so big, and we have a PR Problem, because half the country doesn't. Half the. We're not relitigating.

[Cindy (Caller)]

This.

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

This is over.

[Glenn Beck]

We know what the facts are now. But because the media is compliant with Fauci, nothing's gonna happen. Nothing's gonna happen. And when I say nothing's gonna happen. I gave up on putting Fauci away a long time ago. Okay? Long time. He's 85. He's not going to prison. Admit it. Would I like him to? Yes. Absolutely. Is it right to? Yes. I don't care if he's 197. He goes to prison. Okay. But it's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. What we need now is the truth. Now, Florida is not going to win a criminal case, and the pardon doesn't have anything to do with why. The. The problem here in Florida is the clock. Florida gives prosecutors four years for a first degree felony, three for most others. The conduct that everyone is angry about is 2020 to 2021. That grocery receipt is six years old. It's out. Florida can't do anything about it. Wall to the map. Ron DeSantis, former federal prosecutor, said it himself. You need a violation of Florida law and personal jurisdiction over the man. So statements made from a podium in Washington are not acts committed in Tallahassee. Lying to Congress is a District of Columbia problem under federal law. And Florida's perjury statute reaches false testimony only in Florida proceedings. So you can't get him. Wall 3. In 1890, the Supreme Court held that a state cannot prosecute a federal officer for doing his federal job. That doctrine covers nearly almost everything Fauci did as the division director at nih. He raised it, and he'd very likely win it. I want the truth just as much as you do, okay? I want the truth on this one, probably almost more than anything else, because this truth must be restored if we're going to have faith in anything. Which is why I'm telling you why. An indictment that dies on a jurisdiction motion 18 months from now gets us nothing but another news cycle that lasts 18 months and a martyr, and nothing satisfying comes out of it. So let me go back to Woodrow Wilson. Here is a tool that will actually work, okay? And 1914 hands it to us. Wilson had the right idea, but he had the wrong instrument, because a pardon can be refused, but a congressional grant of immunity cannot. It isn't Grace. It's a statute. Congress votes it, the Fifth Amendment evaporates, and the witness either answers or goes to prison for contempt with no defense left. That's the crowbar that doesn't break. He would have to answer the questions or he would have to go to prison because you've just been. You have immunity. The lie of Ron Paul just wants to put you in prison because he hates you flies away because you would immediately say, rand Paul has no power over you, sir. No power. So answer the questions now. He could not invoke the Fifth. He couldn't. And if he continued to lie, then you could make the case. It wouldn't mean he goes to jail, but you would have that conversation. Then explain to me how this is what you said privately and this is what you said to us in public. Have that conversation. It's not going to put him in jail, but that's the price. You know, every fix comes with an invoice. If you give him immunity, you can never prosecute him for what he tells you. You're trading the handcuffs for the transcript. But quite honestly, the handcuffs are never coming. I want the transcript. Take the transcript. Burdick spent the night in jail. Rather than accept a piece of paper that said he'd done nothing wrong. He understood something that we've forgotten. A pardon isn't a verdict. It isn't an ending. It's a document that tells you what somebody was afraid of. What is Foushee afraid of? And I have to tell you, it only covers jail. I think what Foushee is truly afraid of is the loss of his status. He is so. The diaries show it. He is such a megaloman, Meghan. Megalomaniacal kind of figure. His ego is so out of control, he will not admit it. He won't. You put him in front of Congress with this. I'm telling you, he won't. He won't play ball. You will have the record. We will have the transcript. This is an unsatisfactory and unreasonable ending to this story. America must have the story set and finished soon. 11 years. That guy was never charged in 1914. Read that pardon again. Go for congressional immunity. Nobody wants to do it because you'll never put him in jail. But I'm telling you, go for the transcript, not the handcuffs, because the handcuffs are never coming back. In just a minute. International Fellowship of Christians and Jews is our sponsor. History is filled with moments that people didn't recognize until years later. And then they look back and say, wow, that was the turning point. That was the moment everything changed. We are having those moments every day. The people living through it, they didn't know they were standing in history. They just knew that they had to do something. 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[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

Coming on.

[Glenn Beck]

So his appearance yesterday Fauci before the Senate brought back a lot of bad memories for a lot of people about the tyranny of science and the so called experts and people don't understand. This was very well calculated and it started a long, long time ago. And how did we become a group of people that stand around and wait to hear from the experts? How is that possible? I answer that in a seven episode podcast called Control Freaks in History. It is really good. You want to understand the progressive movement. You want us to understand how we got to a place to where we all stand around and go, I don't know, it's not my job. It's not really my call. I don't. It's common sense. No, well, that's not what the experts say. It's common sense. How did we get here? If you liked the American Story series and you're looking for your next great listen, don't miss Control Freaks in History. Access the full series commercial free by becoming a torch insider. Here's a clip from the first episode. Even when the contradictions piled up, to question the experts, to question the science during a national health crisis was considered dangerous. It's very dangerous, Chuck, because a lot of what you're seeing as attacks on me, quite frankly, are attacks on science. Because all of the things that I have spoken about consistently from the very beginning have been fundamentally based on science.

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

Sometimes those things were inconvenient truths for

[Glenn Beck]

people and there was pushback against me. So if you are trying to, you

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

know, get at me as a public

[Glenn Beck]

health official and a scientist, you're really attacking not only Dr. Anthony Fauci, you're attacking science. It's unbelievable. The expert was no longer just using science as a tool. The expert had become the science that is from Kontrol Freak 7 Parts. It's not all about Anthony Fauci. It's how we got to Anthony Fauci. It's really, really good. Takes you through 100 years of history, really good. Get the full seven part series commercial free at glenn beck.com torch I want to show you this. This is a. This is a document from history that is very well known. Now this was signed by Gerald R. Ford. Later somebody came up with him with the document and said, hey, would you sign this? And he signed it. So it's not the official. That's in the National Archives. I, Gerald R. Ford, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me on Article 2, Section 2 by the Constitution have granted by, and have been granted and by these presents do grant a full, free and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States. With he, Richard Nixon has committed or may have committed or taken part during the period of January 20, 1969 through August 4, 1974 in witness thereof, I have here to set my hand on this eighth day of September in the year of our Lord 1974. That's Gerald R. Ford that signed that. That made a lot of people really angry because on both sides, because there were people that thought he didn't do anything wrong and others that thought he absolutely did horrible things. Gerald R. Ford said we need to come together as a nation and just bury this wound. Well, that wound is being picked at again. And I think this time because, you know, Gerald R. Ford was more of the candidate for my father. But I remember him barely. I remember the day he resigned. Remember being a really small kid, maybe 10 years old, and watching him sitting in front of my TV way up too close where you know I was going to get eye cancer or something. That's what my mom always said. But sitting there in front of the TV and watching it and my dad being really upset because he's like, he didn't do anything that other presidents haven't done. Why is he being persecuted for this? Others wanted him to go to jail. The pardon put it all in the past until now. There is a good strong possibility that he was a victim of the deep state. The evidence that is coming out now shows that what we knew about Watergate was not what happened. And it's stunning evidence. And I want to go into Richard Nixon and his pardon. But more about who Richard Nixon was, was because there's this new thing where all the kids these days are saying Nixon. Now I love Richard Nixon. Who was Richard Nixon? This, this Fauci thing cannot be covered. Cannot be covered. Again, it's deep state. Very likely exactly what happened to Richard Nixon. Deep state control. Except Fauci is a hero. Nixon went against more on that Next. Paid for by Super Sure Insurance Agency, llc, a licensed insurance agency. So you start a business one day, it's just an idea scribbled on a notepad. Then it becomes a website, then a customer base and a paycheck. And before you know it, people are counting on you. And that's when you realize, I don't just have a business anymore. I have something worth protecting. If I go down and the business goes down, all these families, their lives are affected. Most people don't think about that with a small business owner. Every small business owner has had really bad nights when things are happening in the business that are going wrong and going how many people are going to be unemployed because I made a mistake or I didn't think this through or I didn't have the right insurance? Look, you have to have the right insurance. And super sure takes a really great approach. They make the process completely simple. They give you one person to work with. They help you find the right coverage without turning it into a second full time job. You've already put in all the hard work into building something that matters. Protecting it shouldn't be the hardest part right now. Go to supersure.com beck and get a full report on your current policies. No obligation. Find out if you're overinsured or underinsured or somewhere in between. Get supersure.com beckone super agency. One powerful platform and all your policies in one place. Supersure.com beck don't just read history.

[Chris Wright]

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[Glenn Beck]

Welcome to the, welcome to the program. So I was talking about Nixon and talking about Nixon because of the pardon that Fauci gave. And this is the pardon from Nixon or from Ford on Nixon and everybody just moved on. And now it looks like Nixon was a victim of the deep state. And the evidence is piling up and it looks pretty convincing. And so people are starting, I mean, have you seen the ball cap that's online right now says Nixon Max Maxing. I mean, kids born 30 years after Watergate buying crew necks with, you know, Nixon now slogans and everything else. They're cutting archival footage of the 37th president over Biggie Small records and posting it. And the hats sold out in hours. Wall Street Journal has covered this. The Hill this week. Douglas McKinnon, a former White House and Pentagon official, he said the fascination is real and it's growing. And J.D. vance has noticed. I want to read, I want to be really clear on some things. So we listen very carefully on this. Vance sat down at the Nixon Library on 25 June. Long conversation about the country and about his new book on faith. And McKinnon said, well, he's going to the Nixon Library to do this, um, because he's reading the tea leaves of the younger generation. Okay, before anybody in any party starts measuring the drapes, let's be clear on what's happening here. Gen Z has not fallen in love with Richard Nixon. Gen Z has fallen out of love with everybody in politics. And quite honestly, I think all of us. Okay, in 2016, 42% of that generation called themselves liberal. 42% in 2016. What is that number today? From 42 to 30? 12 points gone. Where'd they go? Well, conservatives picked up six. Moderates picked up eight. More of them walked to the middle than walked to us. And that's not a conversation or a conversion. That's an exit. They think the American dream has a lock on the door and their name isn't on the list. They can't buy a house. They can't. They can't afford their groceries or gas. Rent eats their paycheck up. That's what they're thinking. And both parties have been telling them a story about the future that doesn't match the bank statement. That's the problem. And the gop. I just talked to the President about this. I said, Mr. President, you know, they don't understand. They're not hearing, and they don't understand. They're suffering and feeling real pain right now. And he. He is really good at understanding this. He really is. I never seen a president more in touch with the average person. But for some reason, this is not translating here. And the GOP sucks at it and always have. So when you're presented with a closed door, what do you do? Well, these people started looking into the past, and some of them landed on socialism, and some landed on Richard Nixon. And here's the part I didn't know until this week. We've been here before. Exactly. Here. The voting age had just dropped to 18. And overnight, millions of new voters. Listen to this. Millions of new voters. The Woodstock generation, the campus generation, were handed a ballot. They lowered it to 18. Why? Because the progressive left knew we got the kids. George McGovern's top strategist looked at it and said, nixon just handed us the presidency. 13 million kids. It's over. McGovern's gonna win. Nixon's people didn't argue. They organized against him. Okay? They built an outfit called Young Voters for the President. Please, America, learn from this. Gop learn from this. 400,000 members. And they made one decision that changed everything. They stopped chasing the campus. They went after the kids who weren't in college. The apprentice, the enlisted men, the young marrieds, the kids with a job and a car payment. They went after them. The man who ran it, Ken Wright's, he put his theory in a sentence. He said, most young voters do not want a president who's one of them. And then he compared it to fatherhood. Most kids don't want a dad who's a pal. They want a dad who's steady. So November came. Remember, progressives are thinking they're going to win because they have the kids locked. November comes. McGovern, the anti war candidate in the first anti war generation's first election, carries voters under 25 with 52%. 52. He barely split the generation that was supposed to be his birthright because they were the ones that were going to be drafted and go to war. So that's a hopeful story if you're a GOP and you care to learn from it. But it's also a warning if you're paying attention, because both halves are true and only one of them ever gets repeated. Nixon didn't win those kids by being cool. He was never going to be cool. He won them by taking their material lives seriously. The draft, the job, the price of things, the refusing to flatter them. Now, two years later, he was gone. And the generation who had, you know, put this in, they're standing around kicking rocks. What the hell just happened? Because nothing is purchased permanently. It was rented. Those kids that put him in turned on him as well because they thought Watergate was real. This happens. You rent voters one election at a time. Same arithmetic today, polling has shown the President's approval with voters under 30 has fallen sharply since he took office. The second time, the same young men who moved right on culture are the ones getting flattened by rent. And if our answer to them is, you know what? Well, you live under your hat, they're going to go find somebody else's hat. Okay, now, there's one other thing on Nixon for people who are cheering for Nixon. I think you're right about him being set up by the deep state. I haven't done enough homework on it to tell you that you are. I think you are onto something. But you have to know what else you're cheering for. Nixon was for wage and price controls. That's the federal government setting what your labor is worth. He also closed the gold window. That's what caused all of this inflation. He created the epa. He had an enemies list with American citizens names on it. This is a man who expanded federal power in ways that should make a room full of conservatives go very, very quiet and uncomfortable. If what young adults like is the toughness and the instinct for working people, I take it, and you should take it. That's real. That's worth having. That's what the GOP needs to recognize. But if what you like is a president who decides what things cost, who the enemies are of the state, then we have a different conversation to have, okay? And I would rather have it now than in 2028, because if we're arguing this in 2028, it's going to be argued by the same people who think, you know, Qatar is the greatest place ever, and maybe we should be more like Qatar. Maybe we should be more like these, you know, these states that have all these laws and they just tell people how to live. No, no. But that is in, to some degree, that was what Nixon was like. He was making the decisions, not you. So here's the principle underneath all of it, and it's the same one I come back to every single day on this program. The left looks at Generation Z and sees them as a block, a demographic, a column in a spreadsheet that was promised to them at birth, and now it's being stolen. I mean, listen to the words they use. They. When they talk about people who are voting differently than them in this voting bloc, they're. They've betrayed us. It's backlash. They're radicalized, okay? That's the vocabulary of ownership. They think they own the young generation. You can only be betrayed by something you believed you owned. McGovern, strategist, thought he owned 13 million kids in 1972. He didn't own a single one of them. They are not a generation. They are 70 million individual people running 70 million individual calculations about rent and work and marriage and God, and every last one of them can smell I'm being lied to. So they're not a Republican asset, they're not a Democrat asset. Can we get our parties to understand they're individual people and you have to earn people one at a time. So if there's a 19 year old in your life who just discovered Richard Nixon, or you did, and you think you found the answer, be careful to cheer. What do you like about him? Let me hand you the whole file. The wage controls with the working class instinct. The enemy's list with the landslide. The getting us off the gold standard. Do the Thing that every generation actually did or that Generation actually in 1972 did, which was think for yourself and embarrass every professional who has ever counted you as mine. Gop. This is how you win. Stop going after the campus. One is the only unit there has ever been more in a minute. Dogs are a lot like people in one respect. Well, in a lot of others, they're not anything at all like people. Men. You know, this is the thing that women don't understand. We are just like dog. We don't care. We'll go wherever you put us in the car.

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

We'll.

[Glenn Beck]

Where do you want to eat? I don't know. We can put a food on the. On the floor. I'll eat it off the floor. I don't care where we eat. And you get so upset. It was like, my dog. My husband won't make a decision where we want it, where we should go eat. Because we don't care. We don't care. We are. We have a lot in common with dogs. We don't care. We don't care. You can kick us off the couch, we'll sleep on the floor. That's okay. Anyway, your dog, keeping them hydrated and healthy, it's your job. But they're just like us and you. We recommend rough greens and rough H2O. Your dog has to drink water, so why not make the water work a little harder for your dog, especially in this really hot summer. Rough H2O is designed to support hydration while also providing important electrolytes, trace minerals and nutrients that help support your dog's overall health. Nothing complicated about it. You just add water to the bowl and then you get the benefits. Every time they take a drink, it's one of those products that makes perfect sense. You're already filling the water bowl every day. Now just make every bowl a little better for your dog. One bag equals seven daily packs. That's a week supply. Buy two bags, get a third completely free. No code needed. Just go to rough h2o.com rough h2o.com. Complete hydration support. Simple to use. Loved by dogs. It's rough h2o.com promoting self reliance over government dependence. Glenn Beck will be back right after this. So tomorrow I'm going to take phone calls from parents that have talked to your kids and use the Socratic method. And by the way, Socrates, you know, ancient Greece, somebody. I talked to somebody and they're like, I don't know, Socrates.

[Cindy (Caller)]

Who is he?

[Glenn Beck]

I don't like. Oh, my gosh. The education system is so Bad Socrates, great thinker. He was known for asking questions. They killed him actually because he said he was going around all the rich people and in ancient Greece and he was like, you know they say you're the smartest person so I want to ask you some questions. And they would ask a series of questions and then he realized no, you're not that smart. Nope, it's not you. Do you know somebody smarter than you? Well, he pissed off everybody. He was like, he came to me because I was the smartest. And then he's like, no, it's definitely not you. So but he had a way of getting to answers just by asking critical questions. This is critical thinking. Okay, so I set out some things on socialism and your kids may not be socialists and that's fine, celebrate, celebrate. But your kids are going to have to defend the free market to socialists so they need to know what questions to ask. So we set these out and I asked you to have a conversation with your kids and then call in. That show is tomorrow, I want you to call in tomorrow and tell me what happened. Peters wrote in and said it's an incredibly great list and idea to address what we can do. My kids are in their 20s, all working with good jobs. They never bought into the commie ideas and propaganda but now are working. They see more reason to believe it is a threat. I'm telling you they are going to be faced with these things. Cindy wrote in my 14 year old son and I went over all the questions and it went really well. He sees, oh we have her on the phone. Do I have time? Let me take her real quick. Cindy, go ahead.

[Cindy (Caller)]

Yes, I had a conversation with my son last night and just to preface this, he and I have had some battles talking about how he feels socialist things are helpful and of course I had some, some things to say back to him that probably. Right, right. So we weren't on the same page on that but the conversations that we had last night did go really well and we, we, we were civil. He explained lot of how he was feeling that capitalism is, it doesn't, it doesn't last because it falls on people or men and women to make decisions that end up eventually being self serving.

[Glenn Beck]

So the leadership won't do that anyway. I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said that.

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

Go ahead.

[Cindy (Caller)]

Yeah, no, no, that's what you don't say to your kids, you know, the people. Yeah, well, but that's, that was the thing. It's like you know, if we're relying on elected officials to Fix this. And they're self serving that it's not going to get fixed. So he thinks capitalism is either going to.

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

Oh, go ahead.

[Glenn Beck]

No, no. So I just wanted to know. So did you. You made progress in having a conversation? Is this a conversation you might be able to have again with your son? Or was it like the typical conversation that you have with your kids where they just don't want to talk to you anymore?

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

Mom.

[Cindy (Caller)]

No, actually he. He was. Honestly, he was thrilled and I was. We really had a very good. It was like two hours long last night that we talked.

[Show Producer/Assistant]

Wow.

[Cindy (Caller)]

He ended up. Yeah, it was. And he. He wants to have more talks with this. And actually he went and got a spiral bound notebook because he wanted to write down his ideas of what he was actually trying to say. Because of course, you know, when I'm hearing him say socialism, I'm like, no,

[Glenn Beck]

I know, I know. But Cindy, have him listen to. Exactly. That's exactly what I was hoping you would get, is that parents will see what their children are seeing and understand where they're coming from. Have him listen to Control Freaks. You're a torch member. Have them listen to Kontrol Freaks because that shows you what men do when they're in charge of making the decisions on their own and the government is behind it. Kontrol Freaks is really good. You might want to share that. Cindy, thank you for doing this. Thank you for sharing. If you want that list of questions and don't argue with your kids, do not argue. Just try to find out what they're thinking. It will open a door, as Cindy just showed you. You can find it@glenn beck.com. As a business owner, entrepreneur or leader, let me ask you something. Who is challenging you to think bigger today? You can't afford to think the same way everybody else does. And I'm Inviting you to Vault 2026, created by Patrick Bet David. 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I want to talk to you about the price of food and the price of your gasoline. I'm going to start with food and then Chris Wright is going to join me in about 30 minutes. And he's our energy secretary. And I have some serious questions about the price of gasoline. A lot of them come from our insider audience. You know, why aren't we building refineries right now? If sweet, if light sweet crude is what we're pulling out of the ground, why aren't we refining that? And it has some, I'll let him get into it. But also I want to know several other things that are happening right now with the Energy Department. And one of them is, are these, these data centers, is it true that they are pulling all kinds of electricity? What's the truth on that? We get it from the energy secretary here in just a second. You take it for what it is worth. Now let me talk to you about chapter, our sponsor. There are some things in life that are complicated because they have to be. 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And that sometimes means, you know, when you're talking to somebody who's believing in socialism, not questioning their character, finding out first, do they actually believe? Do they know enough about socialism? What do they actually believe about socialism? Do they know that socialism is, according to Marx, the step between capitalism and communism and what kind of socialism they're talking about. And just don't assume the worst of people. Have conversations and listen more than you talk. Ask questions, see, really understand where they're coming from and then have the facts. When you know you're, you're ready. Anybody who is supporting the grocery stores up in New York, 50 Chamber of Commerce is voted this week to sue the city of New York. 50 chamber of commerces. Not 50 CEOs, 50 chambers. The chamber of Commerce for the Asian, African, Caribbean, Hispanic, Middle Eastern, Jewish owned business groups, all organized together in a nonprofit called the Multicultural Business Coalition. And their chairman is Frank Garcia. He told the New York Post that the board has authorized a lawsuit in the coming weeks and they're raising a million dollars to pay for it. Letters going to city hall, notifying the mayor that he's about to be sued. Now, Garcia's explanation was two sentences. The mayor won't sit down with him. And the mayor, he said, isn't going to be able to bully the lawyers that they're bringing in. So what are they suing? Over $70 million of city money to open five government grocery stores, one per borough. This week the mayor put the numbers on it. 30% off the core basket, all fresh produce, all meat, all seafood, plus about 20 stap like milk, cheese and bread. His phrase was no exceptions, no gimmicks. Okay? I want you to think now as a person that owns a small store or a bodega, do the arithmetic that every bodega owner in Queens did the second they heard that a grocery store is one of the thinnest businesses in America. 1 to 2% net margin. You come with your cart and you're paying $100. The man behind the counter clears $1.50. The store clears $1.50. We went to the store. I think we spent like $350. They're making less than five bucks off of me. That's incredible. Why? Because he has to pay the rent. The rent. And the landlord, he has to pay the property taxes through that rent. He pays. You know, if you're in New York, Con Ed, you have to have the refrigeration, the insurance, the guy who stocks the cooler at 5 in the morning, who you're now paying $20 an hour. The city store is not paying any rent. It's sitting on city property. It doesn't pay property tax. It can't go out of business. Because losing money is not failure for a government store. It's a budget line. Okay? One analysis this week projected the city loses about 28 cents on every dollar. Those stores will ring up 28 cents in loss. So the competition is not between two grocers. It's between a grocer and a grocer's tax collector. So here's the part worth being fair about, because it's true, the mayor's not lying about the problem. Food in poor neighborhoods, it does cost more. A corner store in Brownsville really does charge more for a gallon of milk than the Whole Foods in Tribeca. Why? Because Whole Foods is buying in bulk. It buys in smaller volumes. It has to eat more in. In theft. It has to pay more per square foot, more security. All of these things. There are blocks in New York City where the nearest full grocery store is a bus ride away. And those are real. So I can look at that. You can look at that. The socialist can look at that and say, I want to fix that. You know, I think that makes you a good man for wanting to fix it. The trouble isn't the heart. The trouble happens in the head. It's what happens next. Because the price is not a decision somebody makes. A price is a piece of information. The whole economy, every farmer, every truck, every port, every shortage and surplus on earth, is compressed into one number that tells the grocery, the grocer, what that stock is worth and what to put on the shelves and what a shopper wants to buy all of those things. When it comes to government setting the number by decree, it hasn't changed the information. It's only stopped broadcasting it. Okay? The shortage is still there, but now nobody can see it. We've been here before, and I can't believe I'm going to take you to the wind. Hang with me for a Second, because this is really important. The winter of 362. Let me take you to Antioch. Okay? The Roman Empire, or Emperor, there was Julian. He was in town, and he was, by every account, including his enemies, genuinely an austere man. He slept little. He ate plainly. He had contempt for luxury. And he found out that Antioch was short on grain and prices were climbing. So he looked at the merchants and he said, you're just price gouging. So he did the obvious decent thing, right? He fixed the price of grain by decree. So you want to see how this doesn't work? Let's go back to 362, and you can fill in all the way from 362 to today and show it's the same story. So what happened? The grain vanished. Why? Well, not because the merchants were wicked, but because at the Emperor's price, it was worth more everywhere else in the Mediterranean than it was in Antioch. So Julian went further. He bought grain out of Egypt. He brings it out with his own money, ships it in, and sold it in the city at his price. What happened? People started buying all of it up and then carrying it out of the gates and reselling it at the real price. What happened? The city got hungrier. Hungrier than it was before he arrived. So you have two choices. You can either stop that madness, or you can now get the guns and say, you are going to do this, and then you got to start building walls around your city. So Antioch responds to it the way cities do. They wrote songs about him, mocking little verses about his philosopher's beard sung in the streets. Julian, the Emperor of Rome, sat down and wrote a pamphlet answering them. He called them the Beard Hater. Okay, he nailed it up. In the public square. In it, he explained at length that his policy had been sound and the people of Antioch were greedy and soft, and they had failed him. Then he left. That pamphlet still exists. You can read it, just go online. It's an amazing thing. 1600 years later, the oldest detailed record we have of a government capping the price of food is also a government blaming the citizens for what the cap is doing. Which brings me to the chairman of the New York City Democratic Socialist of America, a Momdani ally. Asked about the bodegas this week, what he said was, if one public, publicly owned grocery store is bringing prices down enough to put a man out of business, then maybe he shouldn't have been in that business in the first place. Wait, you. You can lose 28 cents on every dollar?

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

That.

[Glenn Beck]

That's not a business. That's not business. That's communism. Follow the sequence. The bodega on the corner loses 10% of its traffic and it has to close. The halal butcher two doors down loses foot traffic. The bodega closes. Now Mamdani Mart is the only food on the block, which means the discount is no longer competing with anything. It's just an expense. And the expenses get cut. And the next budget crunch, the next mayor, the next fiscal emergency, the subsidy gets trimmed and the shelves thin out. And the neighborhood that had four imperfect stores now only has one bad one. You didn't end the food desert. You brought it out and put a city seal on it. I've told you before. This week, Kansas City ran a small version of this. In 2024, the city supported, grocery store lost. The state close to, I think it was like $900,000. The nonprofit that was brought in to run it ended up suing the city over the condition of the store. So what would work? What do we do? We can go back to 362 and show this doesn't work. Here's what does. Feed the person. Stop looking at collectives. Feed the person, not the storefront. Put money in the hands of the family. Snap, wic. A card, cash. You judge it by the person. Then the bodega, the supermarket, the butcher, the farmer's market all compete for that dollar, and the family picks the winner. Government pays for the groceries and stays out of the grocery business. You know, the honest objection here is a good one. A card doesn't help if there's no store within two miles. That's fair. But the. The answer to no store is to make it cheaper and faster to open a store. It's the zoning, the permitting, the licensing, the 11 agencies that a man has to satisfy to sell a banana in New York City. It took me a year and a half to build a studio in New York City. A year and a half? I opened one in Texas in four weeks. Okay, don't open a store the taxpayer owns and then let it kill the four that they were that were already there. You want to talk about a food desert? The people suing New York this week are not hedge funds. They are the very people who came from Santa Domingo or Seoul or Aleppo who worked. Who worked somebody else's counter until they could buy their own, who put their name on an awning in a language their grandmother spoke. They were told a socialist administration would be on their side. And they found out. Wow. No. The socialist administration wants my customers. This is not reasonable. And it is not compassion. It can start as compassion. It starts with, I want to help people. I want to feed people. But you must. That's your heart. You must now couple that with your brain and play it all the way down the line to see through history. I can show you from 362amillion examples where socialism doesn't work. Show me one where it does. Back in a minute. The International Fellowship. One of the things that has always moved me about the Jewish people is their refusal to let suffering have the last word. Throughout history, they've been forced from their homes, they've been persecuted, scattered across the world, and yet they kept building, they kept believing, they kept coming home. That story is being written today. And there are Jewish families living under constant threat of terrorism. There are people who are elderly who can't make ends meet. There are children who wake up in air to air raid sirens instead of alarm clocks. There are people around the world who have decided, I can't. I can't walk down the street anymore. I thought I was safe in New York City. I'm not safe anywhere but Israel. What does that make you say? The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews exists. They provide food and shelter and emergency aid, security, and they help those Jewish families return to their ancient homeland, among other things. And they don't just talk about standing with Israel. They put a commitment into action every single day by looking at the individual and helping the individual. The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews praying for the peace of Jerusalem and the four, and for the soldiers and the families and the civilians carrying the burden of this right now. Visit prayifcj.org that's pray ifcj.org 10 seconds. Station ID. Oh my gosh. We have tomorrow. I'm asking people who have met with our kids. And your kids don't have to be socialists. It'll just be a way for you to open a conversation. Whenever you talk about politics, most likely in your house because it's like mine, your kids will roll their eyes because they've heard you rant at the tv, they've heard you rant at the news, and they know exactly who you're for, what you're for. Okay? You're not going to get anywhere by ranting at them. You have to listen to them. And this is something I'm working with on my own, in my own life, because it's easy for me. I've done all the homework and it's so easy. Look, kids, listen to me. I know kids don't want that. They don't want that. They have to find it on their own. And if you want to know where your kids are on socialism and where they're vulnerable, ask them questions. So I put together@glenn beck.com A list of questions you know, about like socialism. When people are saying socialism or you say socialism, do you mean government pays for things or the government owns things? Now your kids have to engage their brain. Like I said just a minute ago, it's heart and head. And your kids, if your kids don't have a heart and want to help the poor, you know at this point at 20 something you're in trouble because by the time they get to 60 and it's all head because they've seen their heart's been trampled on for so many years, they're in trouble. You know, Churchill said if you're, if you're a liberal at 20, that makes sense, but you will turn into, I can't remember how exactly he said it but basically when you hit 40, once you have kids and you have a family, you'll turn conservative or you're a sports player. But I want you to go over this with your kids and we posted them@glenn beck.com you can find it. It's the questions about socialism. Your kids don't have to be socialist, your kids know socialist, your kids are being influenced by socialist. And so you just sit down with them. Do not argue with them, don't argue anything. Just ask them a series. And these questions are there and you can improvise but they have to be honest, probing questions about socialism and how they think things work. Ask them about America. You know, I'd really stick to socialism on this one test, but I'm going to give you some others if this works because I want to hear from people. I just heard from Cindy about half an hour ago, said her 15 year old son sat with her last night. And normally they do not have these conversations and it doesn't go well. And she said I usually end up saying things that I shouldn't have said and I say them loudly. She said, but I played by the rules and I just asked him questions. She said, we talked for two hours and he wants to talk more. I want you to gauge and just see what your children are saying. And again, they can be in their 20s and they're not socialist. It's important because they're surrounded by socialists and, and they have to learn how to ask questions of their socialist friends to get them to think, okay, we can't just write them off. My Kids aren't socialists. So I write everybody else up. No, no, we need everybody on this. So teach how to talk about that. And tomorrow I'm asking anybody who has done this with their kids to call in and tell me how it went. What did you learn about your kids? What did you, what did you, what did you see? What happened? How did it go? What did you learn that you should never do that that's on tomorrow's program. Also, there is something else. I'm getting so much email from people who are listening to the American story. It's out on. I think we're up to. Is it episode 15 that's coming out this week? I think 6, 16 this week. All 20 episodes commercial free are available@glenn beck.com torch but I'm getting so many people who are listening to it. I got a letter from somebody who said, I listened to it now four times. I've learned so much from this. Pass it on to your kids. But there's something else that I want to remind you, especially with Fauci. What was happening with Fauci yesterday? I want you to listen to an eight part series called Control Freaks. It's an audio podcast that I did and it's on krtl. Freaks. How did we get to the situation to where we just listened to the experts all the time? Give you a hint, Woodrow Wilson. 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[Chris Wright]

exclusively for Torch Movie [e-mail].

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

Okay,

[Glenn Beck]

so, you know, we might, we might want to reschedule Chris Wright if he's not, you know, on the phone pretty soon. He was scheduled to be on with us at the top. He is the US Energy Secretary. But I, I want to talk to him about a couple of things. You know, Ken, why can't Trump, Trump could build anything so fast. Why can't we get a oil refinery for light, sweet, light, sweet crude here opened quickly? What about the strategic oil reserves? I am hearing, I'm talking to people off air and I am hearing it is really bad. You know, I went back and looked at an archive. He was on with us in May. Chris Wright was, and he said, look, it's doing damage to it now, it's so low. That was before I think we started the war. So he's on now. Energy Secretary Chris Wright, how are you, sir?

[Chris Wright]

Hey, I'm doing well, Glenn. How are you? Great to be here.

[Glenn Beck]

I'm great. I'm great. Thank you so much for coming on. I got a, I've got so many things I want to talk to you about in so little time. So let me just start. You know, when I said on the air a couple of days ago, Donald Trump is the fastest builder of anything. I watched him build things in New York City that, I mean, I couldn't believe how fast he could get things done and quality. We built the Empire State Building in, you know, in under a year, 11 months. Is there a way and would it make a difference on price to build more oil refineries, especially for light sweet crude? And could we get it done and push it through quickly enough to make a difference?

[Chris Wright]

Well, we do have a new light sweet crude, crude refinery planned to be built at South Texas. It'll be the first new refinery built in the US in over 50 years. But it does take a few years to build. So it won't impact, you know, gasoline or diesel prices in the near term. But it's a hugely positive message to the market that a new refinery is coming tuned Exactly. For the kind of crude we're producing in South Texas and the Permian Basin of West Texas, it'll be a great new addition.

[Glenn Beck]

Well, here's what people don't understand, and I know you've explained it before, but I'm just looking for solutions to this because people don't understand. We have all of this oil, and it's light, sweet crude. Most of the stuff is dirty that we, you know, that we can't. That our refineries, only the heavy crude, will process it. We're in a situation where, you know, America may need fuel more than just for cheap purposes. With our strategic oil reserve being as low as it is, are we doing absolutely everything we can to make sure that America is not behind the eight ball in case we're at war?

[Chris Wright]

We are. And Glenn, relative to everyone else, we're in the best shape of any country in the world. We are a meaningful net exporter of oil, a meaningful net exporter of diesel and jet fuel. But we actually import gasoline because the United States consumes a greater percent of our oil in the form of gasoline than the rest of the world. So we do have trade with the world, but we are a meaningful net exporter. Our refineries are running at record high output right now. Yeah, I'm frustrated, as is the President. The gasoline prices are higher than we'd like, but they're still a dollar a gallon cheaper than they were four years ago during the Biden administration when there wasn't an interruption of energy flows around the world. So it may not feel great, but we're doing well given the circumstances. And I'm proud of our president standing up to Iran and ending just an emerging threat to the world with Iran's race to nuclear weapons.

[Glenn Beck]

One last question on oil. You told me back in May that our strategic oil reserve was damaged because of what Biden did. We need to spend over $100 million to repair the damage, and it's going to take us flat 4, 5, 6 years to fill the strategic oil reserve. President has told me, I think it's 2032 by the time it gets completely full. How bad is this? I mean, you know, we're hearing things on munitions and we're hearing things on the strategic oil reserve. And I don't know how much of it is an information war and how much is true. How are we doing with our oil reserve?

[Chris Wright]

So, you know, we're, thank God we have it, and we are releasing oil which is helping our refiners meaningfully. And so I, you know, it's not, it's not terrible. The Biden administration was wildly irresponsible in selling 200 million barrels of oil for an election to lower gasoline prices and to fund their green new scam programs. So that was terrible. So we came into this with much less oil in the SPR than we would have liked. But as I think I told you before, you know, we're trading these barrels, we're not selling them. So we will end, after this conflict at the end of this administration, we'll have an extra 40 million barrels in the SPR at no cost to American taxpayers. And American oil production continues to grow. Our natural gas production is growing. So, sure, I'd love to have, I'd love to have started with a full spr. I'd love to not be spending the money now to repair the damage from the Biden administration. But this is America and this is the Trump administration. We're fixing the spr, we're doing swaps that'll start filling the reserve up at a meaningful pace next year. And we'll get through the energy part of this crisis, I think reasonably well, and we'll be stronger, more robust and more focused on the other side.

[Glenn Beck]

So let me switch to some, something else my audience is so concerned about and that is the price of their electricity going up because of the data centers. And I've talked to people who are for the data centers and they said with water, it's only about the amount of water of a golf course or your local golf course that they're using. When it comes to energy, I think it's something each town can bargain with to make sure that you know that that data center is paying for any of the upgrade in infrastructure or anything else. Can you tell me what the truth is on the power situation with data centers?

[Chris Wright]

You bet. So look, on the, on the power with data centers, what we're seeing here is mostly a Democrat and a left wing sales pitch. Their green energy policies, these mandates they put at the state level and when Biden was president at the federal level drove energy prices up a lot. And people are mad. They don't want to own that problem. So they're pointing the finger at the obvious thing. No, it wasn't us, it wasn't our stupid policies. It's data centers that are driving up electricity prices. And honestly, Glenn, it's just false. The states that have had the fastest growth in demand for electricity and a good chunk of that comes from data centers, they have the best performance on energy prices. All of them have energy Prices that have risen less than the price of inflation. And some of them have had real declines, I mean, nominal declines in the price of electricity. So data centers are the best tool we have to help first stop the rise of electricity prices in your region and ultimately to drive them down. You know, New York state, they drove electricity prices up with stupid policies. And so now they've said we're not going to have any data centers that'll actually contribute to prices rising even faster in New York. But no, look, data centers, this is America. Not everybody has to have a data center in your neighborhood. So I don't want to alarm people. There's plenty of places to build data centers. But the communities that do negotiate deals, I believe will get enormous benefits. They'll stop the rise of energy prices. They'll generate enormous tax revenues for their police, for their schools, for their parks. Heck, we got an area in Georgia that just eliminated property taxes because the taxes from the data center will cover all of the residents property taxes.

[Glenn Beck]

Wow.

[Chris Wright]

There are huge, huge wins available here. My comment to communities a lot is you don't have to have a data center, but engage in the dialogue because if you push it away, those benefits are going to go to someone else and you're going to miss an opportunity.

[Glenn Beck]

I will tell you, I don't mind if towns don't want to have a data center. That's their right. It has to be open and transparent and there has to be somebody. Like, if I didn't want a data center, I would be sending in the toughest negotiator that I could get and I'd ask for the moon and the stars. You know what? Then you're going to reduce our electricity cost per customer by 20%. And here's how you're going to do it. Or you're going to upgrade this or you're going to pay for our police or you're going to. Whatever it is. I want no more tax on, you know, on our housing or our property taxes. Negotiate. Because sometimes you're going to get that. And that's so much better than just saying, no, I don't want it. Negotiate for things that you would go, you know what? It might be worth it if we got that. They'll never give it to us. Ask, ask. They just might.

[Chris Wright]

Glenn, you're so right. This is an opportunity for a negotiation, not a threat. It's an opportunity, not a thing.

[Glenn Beck]

Yes. Yes. Can I ask you, are we doing anything on hydrogen? I live in a, I live in a, at a ranch up in the Mountains and I have spent seven figures on electricity. I need about 40 kilowatts to run this whole place with the broadcasts and everything else. And I am constantly fighting for the energy. It's this green thing is just not ready for prime time. I don't have electric service up here and I don't want it up here because then more people will move up here. But you know, I want to be green and I want to be off the grid, but it's not ready. Is there anything like hydrogen or anything on the horizon soon that will actually be stable for people?

[Chris Wright]

You know, hydrogen is basically the left's attempt to have a better battery, a longer lived battery. So yes, you can store a lot of energy in hydrogen, but it's very expensive. It's expensive to store hydrogen. About half of the energy is lost in making hydrogen and then turning hydrogen back into electricity. At least half. Somewhere between half.

[Glenn Beck]

So what do we have that. Do we. Do we have anything that's on the horizon that you guys are trying to push through that would help people?

[Chris Wright]

Well, next generation geothermal is coming. We got a 500 megawatt plant under construction in Utah. Mining the heat underneath your feet. President Trump set aggressive agendas in May of last year to say we're going to get three next generation nuclear reactors critical by July 4th. We had four reactors critical by July 4th and another one coming soon. So we've got a next.

[Glenn Beck]

What does that mean when you say nuclear reactors critical? That's probably the wrong words to you. What, what does that mean? That nuclear?

[Chris Wright]

Yeah, for critical self sustaining chain reaction. So running their full nuclear systems, they don't have the other side where you take that heat and convert it into electricity yet, but they have all the critical nuclear parts showing that these next generation reactors, they're small, they're modular. As we build them in volume, the costs are going to come down. This is extremely exciting. We'll be getting electricity in remote areas from nuclear reactors next by the end of next year and a meaningful amount of it by 2028. We've got all sorts of gas turbines under construction. We've got new pipeline to bring low cost natural gas to communities. If you had, you know, gas recip engines at a natural gas line, you could have an enormous amount of low cost electricity on demand whenever you wanted it. No, I don't know the infrastructure where you are. If you don't have electric lines, I'm sure you don't have gas pipelines.

[Glenn Beck]

I don't have gas lines, but I tank it in that's our, that's our, that's our back.

[Show Producer/Assistant]

Right?

[Chris Wright]

You bring propane? Yeah, yeah. You're, you're, you're propane.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Chris Wright]

So there is cool stuff coming in, energy, technology. But the stuff that was politically favored, hydrogen. Again, look, I'm a tech nerd, so if the math works, I'm all for it. But the math on hydrogen looks pretty bad. I don't see that.

[Glenn Beck]

Are we taking the restrictions off, I heard that we're taking restrictions off of fuel standards for cars. Is that true?

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

Yeah.

[Chris Wright]

Shouldn't we let that.

[Glenn Beck]

EPA shouldn't.

[Chris Wright]

That's epa, but there's a lot of regulations like that at DOE as well. We just want consumers to choose. If you want to buy an expensive design device that consumes less energy, God bless you, go for it. But if you can't afford to buy a super fancy next generation hot water heater or dryer, you shouldn't be forced to buy a super expensive one. We're going to let people choose. This is America.

[Glenn Beck]

How much damage have you, and I say this in a good way, how much damage have you done to the big state that cannot be reversed quickly?

[Chris Wright]

I hope by the time we're gone, A lot, you know, we are, we're doing a thing called a process rule that's basically saying you can't just make up regulations and impose them on people without proving that you're not harming individuals and you're delivering net benefits. And most of the regulations that are passed will not pass that test. The endangerment finding that EPA has challenged, that has been the justification for all the deep state rules that just get into everyone's lives. We think that rule will stand, will withstand legal scrutiny and it'll be very hard to bring that back. So we are working every day to just shrink that. This incredible overreaching power of our government that just impoverishes Americans and squelches opportunity. That's not President Trump's agenda.

[Glenn Beck]

It's great to have you on, Chris. Thank you so much. God bless. Keep up the good work in Washington. You bet.

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

Great job. Appreciate you.

[Glenn Beck]

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And you know, it's, well, that was his private diary. It's not like, it's not like it was a little, you know, hello Kitty diary where he had, you know, a little key that he opened it up, you know, when he was talking about Julia Roberts. He didn't put a little heart over the eye, although I wouldn't doubt it. It was on government servers. He wrote this on government. This was not private. He wrote this on Governor. And he did it with the help of AIDS. Now, the person who found it is RFK Jr. He joins me in 60 seconds. First American financing. Learn a lot about people. Just, you know, ask him, what are they? What are they worried about? You learn a lot. Some people, it's their health. For others, their kids. For a whole lot of Americans right now, it's their financing. It's understandable. Everything feels more expensive than it used to. And it is groceries, utilities, insurance, gasoline. Just living your life costs more. 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Kennedy, Jr. Secretary Kennedy, I have to tell you, you and I have disagreed on so many things over the years and I have learned so much from you and have softened so many of my views. I think you are doing an amazing job. And for things that I just didn't even listen to you on, on, on health and everything else, you, you have opened my eyes to what has been happening to our food. And I thank you. I think you have made a tremendous difference. So thank you, sir.

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

Well, I'm very grateful to you. And I, I also want to thank you for that last interview that we did together where you were all doped up on having just returned from dental surgery. And it was one of the best interviews that I've ever done. So I remain deeply appreciated.

[Glenn Beck]

Thank you. Well, I tried not to be doped up, but maybe it would make for a better show. A lot of people would claim. Yes. So, Secretary Kennedy, you found these diaries, and everybody is saying these are private diaries. Could you please lay this to rest? These are not private. They were, I don't know why he put them on, but they were put on government servers.

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

Yeah, well, you know, every American knows this. Who has a job. If you, if you go into your office and you're, and the company that you work, work for gives you a laptop and you do work on that laptop, it belongs to the company. And that is true. That is federal law. If you do something on a government server, it belongs, belongs to the governor government. So he was keeping a diary for his, for the book that he intended to write about his life. And at the end of his term, just before he was leaving, he emailed the entire diary to himself. So years and years of keeping this daily journal, he emailed it to himself that he, so that he could write his book. And that's how we found it through those emails.

[Glenn Beck]

But he, he knows that, I mean,

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

it's not a diary. It's not a diary in the sense, like you said, that a teenage girl keeps a diary that's private and has, you know, a lock on it. This Is a government computer, a government laptop, on government time, keeping his account of what his official duties are and then making private observations about, you know, this. The liberal media is now feigning indignation that we released private diaries and violated his privacy. But that's just. It's a crazy assertion. And, you know, what they're really doing is covering up this. Like you pointed out, this vast media malpractice that took place during COVID when they elevated this guy to a deified status who had funded the weaponization of coronavirus, who then had given it to a Chinese military run lab to two scientists there, Xi Jingli and Ben Hu, who further weaponized it using NIH technology that they got from another NIH grantee, Ralph Barrick at the University of North Carolina. Yeah, and they created. They created SARS CoV2. And Ben Hu, who was seen as a second scientist on it, is patient zero. So he was the first person to get sick from COVID 19. And then, you know, if you look at the subway line that goes from the Wuhan lab, all the original cases were on that subway line. These scientists were infected. They were getting on the subway, people were getting infected, you know, at each stop along the way. And that subway led right from the Wuhan lab to the airport. So people then spread it internationally. And, you know, and instead of exercising skepticism, the American media elevated this guy, silenced his opponents, silenced his critics, silenced anyone who questioned his authority. Told us all we had to trust the expert when the expert was lying to us and then punishing us, marginalizing and vilifying and demonizing anybody who questioned him. And it was really an extraordinary situation. And he was lying about everything. He was lying about masks, he was lying about social distancing, he was lying about natural immunity. He was lying about the ability of the vaccine to prevent transmission. He took the vaccine himself and he immediately got Covid man. And he lied about. About the safety. We now know. The one thing that I learned from his diary, most of this stuff I already know. The one thing I learned is that he had a pulmonary infarction after getting the Moderna vaccine. So Glenn, he took the Moderna vaccine at a very highly publicized press conference in which he was demonstrating his comfort, confidence in the safety of the product by taking the shot publicly in front of the whole world. Then he gets pulmonary infarction, which is NIH and CDC and FDA had done a joint document in which they looked at the expected side effects of the vaccine, adverse events and pulmonary infarctions. One of the top expectations, injuries so he got that, he got a life threatening pulmonary infarction, which is a, which was a blood clot that went out and, and obstructed his lung. And he, he was getting, because he

[Glenn Beck]

was, he was, you know, in his late, in his late 70s. You know, that could happen. So it's not, we're not sure that that's what caused it, but it is likely that that's what caused it. But the problem to me is he had the best medical care and then never ever revealed it. He should have said there's a possibility that this, you know, happened to me. There is a possibility that this happened. Instead he goes out, he never says this out loud, it's never reported. And then he says it's perfectly safe. He doesn't know that. We don't know that.

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

Yeah, I mean, that's true with every vaccine injury. You can never prove causation. But the whole, you know, the whole purpose is, the whole system is based upon people being honest about reporting all of the injuries that happen after vaccine, after vaccine and then, you know, allergy. And you say, hey, we're seeing elevated levels of this, that and the other. If you don't report it, nobody can make those kind of analysis. And he did not report his, he didn't report it to the VAERS system, he didn't tell the public. And you know, if. So anyway, that was, he's not, that's not.

[Glenn Beck]

He's a guy who claims to be science itself but is rejecting the scientific method on being able to find out if something is safe or not. So yesterday he's testifying and he says nothing. And I kind of expected that. Unfortunately, as soon as it began, I was like, he's not going to, he's, they're going to make this against Rand Paul. They're going to just say Rand Paul has a vendetta, blah, blah, blah. I said today that if you give him a congressional grant of immunity and say, look, we just want the answers, he must answer. At this point, I am less interested. I mean, don't get me wrong, I want to see that guy in a perp walk so badly. I think he is one of the most evil guys. I believe he knew what he was doing. He's responsible for millions of people's death. He locked people out of seeing their parents and their grandparents as they were dying. He changed the world and it's all because of his arrogance. But at this point, we're not going to see him go to jail. I just don't think that's going to happen. If we give him congressional immunity, then he must. Or go, go to jail. He must answer the questions. I just want, I want this to be finally settled and settled in, you know, court or in Congress where everyone, including the press, can stop telling us that none of these facts are true, because it's all true.

[Cindy (Caller)]

Yeah.

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

And one thing I would add is that what he did, you know, the Democrats keep saying he saved a million lives. We had the highest death count per capita of any nation in the world. We had 3,000 deaths per million population. The African continent had 1/10 at about 320 per million population. Population.

[Cindy (Caller)]

Wow.

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

There were nations like Haiti and Nigeria that had 14 people per million population. Basically zero vaccine, 1% vaccination. 14 deaths per million population. That's 1 200th of us. We had the highest death rate of any country in the world. Whatever we were doing was the worst performance of any country. So saying, you know, the claim that we, that he saved a million lives is, is not really supported by, by facts.

[Glenn Beck]

So the, he is responsible as well for the largest loss of trust with our doctors, our medical system are, quote, unquote, experts. I mean, you know, we know that a pandemic is going to happen again at some point, but I got to tell you, we will lose a lot of lives because people will not trust anyone. How do we. What has to happen next to him? What do you, what do you, what do you recommend? What do you think is coming? What, what has to happen so we can put this behind us and restore the trust?

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

Well, we're doing that at NIH right now and across the agency. Yesterday, we announced that an end to all dangerous gain of function science. So the science and the studies, the NIH funded, studies that gave us the COVID 19 pandemic, will never happen again. And the new policy has incentives and punishments for scientists and universities that participate in any kind of dangerous gain of function studies. So we're going to, we're ending that. But also we have new protocols for pandemic response, and they are not. And they recognize constitutional rights. You know, there were. The Constitution was built for hard times, not for easy times. You can't just wave it like we did. In fact, in 1780, between the end of the revolution and the ratification of the Bill of Rights, we had multiple pandemics in our country. Smallpox, yellow fever, typhus, typhoid. It killed tens of thousands of people. And the, the framers were well aware of that, but they did not put a pandemic exemption in the United States Constitution. And unfortunately, the, you know, under Dr. Fauci's leadership and with the pitchforks and torches, you know, of the American media, we dismantled the Constitution. We got rid of the First Amendment, freedom of speech. We were censoring people. I mean, I got censored. I had, I was accused of misinformation because I said this probably came from the lab in Wuhan. And Fauci was saying that privately in his diary in January of 20. So even before I said that, he said he was saying it could not have come from the wet market. And then for two years he tried to tell us it came to the wet market. So I never put any misinformation on my Instagram account, but I was, it was shut down. My, all of my social media was shut down. And this happened as, you know, doctors were delicensed, people were aroused in silence. The social distancing regulation got rid of our right to assemble. We had three and a half million businesses shut down without due process, without just compensation. Jury trials were shut down for anybody, no matter how negligent they were, who supplied a countermeasure. All the, you know, our Fourth Amendment protections against unwarranted searches and seizures were abandoned with all this track and trace that you have to show your medical records before you leave your home or travel or whatever, whatever. The whole Constitution was dismantled and that can never happen again. And the pandemic responses that we're working out are pandemic responses that are more traditional. They use racial methods and they use AI and we use all of the well established methods that do not interfere with our constitutional rights.

[Glenn Beck]

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Thank you, sir. Thanks for spending the time with me. I appreciate it. Our Health and Human Services Secretary. You bet. Thank you. I wish we had actually, I wish we had more people that were doing the kinds of things in. And I shouldn't say that because we just had, we just had Chris on from the Department of Energy and he was remarkable too, on the things that they're actually doing. Chris Wright is doing a fabulous job, but it's good to see that, you know, when we get down on things, you know, we were just talking yesterday about, you know, the next pandemic, what has to happen. At least, at least in his department, he has put penalties for anybody who is doing that hopefully will be enforced one of these days. All right, let me tell you about our sponsor. It's Patriot Mobile. Every day you make hundreds of decisions without even thinking about them. You choose what to eat, which road to take, who are you going to listen to and what you support. Most decisions feel small by themselves, but when you stack them up over a lifetime, they start to define the kind of person that you are. That's why you should pay attention to the companies that you do business with. Some of them are actually using your money to fund causes that you would never ever support. Patreon Mobile is different. America's only Christian conservative wireless provider. They believe in faith and family and the freedom that, you know, put us where we are. And they put their money and their time where their values are by supporting organizations that defend those principles. The best part is you don't have to sacrifice a great service to make the switch. You can keep your phone, keep your number and get all the coverage that you already have. No matter which of the big three carriers you're on. Make your phone plan, you know, back up the values you believe in. Go to patriot mobile.com beck or call 972 Patriot. 972 Patriot. Use the promo code Beck. For a free month of service, it's patriot mobile.com beck972 Patriot. Use a promo code Beck. Make the switch today. 10 seconds. Station ID. You know, with Fauci in front of Congress yesterday, it brought a lot of bad things back to mind about what it was like, you know, in 2021. It was not good. How did we get to this point in America where we are just surrendering to experts? Fauci had such an outsized influence and power. How did we get here? I answered that question in the the seven part or seven episode podcast series called Control Freaks in History and it's American history currently available on for Torch subscribers. It is about how a cult of expertise developed by progressives and how this obsession continues to drive the left's quest for control. It is such an important thing. You want to understand today's world, you want to understand what we're really fighting? Just, just grab this podcast and listen to the seven episodes in this and it is so eye opening and it takes you back all the way from the beginning of the progressive era and shows you how they intentionally manipulated people to get them to say, nope, this is the expert in this field. This is the expert in it and how many times they were wrong and the damage that they did.

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

It.

[Glenn Beck]

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[Caller/Commentator]

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[Glenn Beck]

Just got a great message in from Tim. He writes and says, glenn, I've been a fan and listen to you for more than 10 years now. I hardly ever miss a show, live or podcast. Naturally, I wanted to join the Torch when you launched it a couple of months ago. However, I'm on a budget and I just couldn't talk myself into spending the money. Anyway, when Young Washington premiered and you discussed how much you loved it, I had to go. Even though I haven't been to a Hollywood movie in forever. The next day I subscribed to the Torch just for the American history, the American story. It is amazing. I am a huge massive fan, but I only wish history in school was taught like this. Kids would have become patriots when they were in the fourth grade instead of being confused about who we are as Americans. Keep up the good work, Tim. Thank you so much. And I'M glad you joined and we will try to make it worth every hard earned penny to make sure that you are. You and everybody who joins the torch are happy and feel it's well worth the money spent. Tomorrow I am going to ask you to call in if you have talked to your kids about socialism. I put up@glenn beck.com A list of kind of Socratic questions, just questions. Do not argue with your kids. You are not there to change their mind on this. You are there just to listen to. I just want you to listen and gather. Cindy called in earlier today and she said that she had her 14 year old son. They don't agree on things. She said it always ends the same way. Rolling of the eyes, walking out. I don't want to talk about it. She said we haven't had a real conversation a long time. 14 year old boy, what a surprise. Anyway, she said we start we I took your notes and I did what you said and we had a conversation. She said it lasted two hours. She said and he wants to talk some more. Try this. Even if your kids don't support socialism, they need to understand what it is. They need to think about it so they can defend the free market with their friends. Because I can guarantee you they're going to run. They have socialist friends. So go over it and then I want to hear from you on tomorrow's program. There's a couple of other things. Where do we stand with hey, do we have the ballist wonder what is that song again for Jonathan? The ball is rhino. Yeah, thrune the balless Rhino. Do we have the theme for that? BJ Balls. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So Thune the ball is rhino still. What is happening? What is the latest on the Save America Act?

[Show Producer/Assistant]

Could we just have dead air here for another 15 minutes?

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. Nothing, Nothing.

[Show Producer/Assistant]

I feel like Glenn there we have yesterday though the President said I think it's from the Oval Office where he said that, you know, it's too bad that Thune thinks the way he thinks. I'm not quoting him directly but he President Trump said that he's got the votes, he just needs to go out and pass the Save America Act. But if you hear from any of the senators that are involved in this, it kind of sounds like they're just more worried about they have a vacation up in a week than doing anything.

[Glenn Beck]

Yes, that was Mike. That was Mike Lee's point. It make them stay there. They will cave if you make them stay there. Say we're going to do 12 o' clock votes Sorry, it's going to be at midnight, but we're doing it. You want. You're great. You're against it. It's happening at 2 o' clock tomorrow morning. We're staying in session. Keep them there. That's the way it is historically. Always been. But, Thune, the but what is it again? Yes, Thune, the ball is rhino. Anyway, that guy is, is. He wants them to go home. He's like, how dare they? They want us to stay here. That's unreasonable. Unreasonable. Do you know how hard the average American works at their job? And we work more than three days a week. I just want to point that out.

[Show Producer/Assistant]

Thune, he was, he's. He's been given from the House multiple different ways. I've actually lost count. I'm running out of fingers on my hands how many ways they can get this done. Third was asked, actually asked about one of those budget reconciliation. And I'm just going to read through this and then the final paragraph. Tell me what he's more concerned about. He goes, if budget reconciliation is a path forward, if we conclude that there is actually a chance to get an outcome or a result, I'm open to do it. And I think all of our colleagues would be open to staying around here if that were true. But I think that we have to see, first of all that we can prove to be the case. Here's the final paragraph. But I don't think having a Congress sitting around here for the month of August in quorum calls or having to vote on Democrat amendments is probably a good use of anybody's time.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, yeah. It's not. And everyone would know it. And so they would do something like, this has got to end. This has got to end. He doesn't want to be on. He gets the sackless award. I'm, you know, I have. Having it. Do we have a, do we have an image of it yet? We have a. We have. There it is. There it is, the no ball prize right there. Awarded for sacklessness. And it's got Thune right in the center. He's got the, the pride right there. I am making one. I'm making one that's going to be about, I don't know, what would you say that is about four inches around.

[Show Producer/Assistant]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay. I'm making it just like the Nobel Prize. It's the no ball prize and I'm giving it to him. I want to present it to an insider, said, glenn, you should give it to the president. The president should give it to him. I, you know what? There's a chance he might do that. There's a chance he might do that. I'm going to tweet that out today with a picture. Mr. President, you want to award it to him?

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

Go ahead.

[Glenn Beck]

You want to award it, because it'd be great.

[Show Producer/Assistant]

This is kind of. I don't know if you saw this. This came out. I think it was yesterday. But the Senate is so worried about how. I'll put it in my words, how stupid they now look and how unwilling to do anything that they have started to circulate a document that shows how to. Here's some talking points. When people bring up the fact that, hey, what about the filibuster? Why are you doing nothing? On the Save Save America act, they had to put out a list of how to respond to some of these accusations. And it's kind of funny if you read through it. Daily Caller put this out. They're the ones that got it. It almost reads like a choose your own adventure. If they say this, why aren't you doing this? Then you respond with this.

[Glenn Beck]

Crazy.

[Show Producer/Assistant]

It is so ridiculous.

[Glenn Beck]

So crazy. Do you have it in front of you?

[Show Producer/Assistant]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

Read some of it. Because it's insulting. It's absolutely insulting.

[Show Producer/Assistant]

So it's funny. It has. It first starts off with the charge or the claim and then how they need to respond. So the first one. White House Press. This is the charge. White House Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt said President Trump's patience is running out with John Thune. Is Senator Thune doing a good job as majority leader?

[Glenn Beck]

Here's your response.

[Show Producer/Assistant]

President Trump and Senator Thune are united and doing an excellent job delivering safety and prosperity for Americans despite unprecedented Democrat obstruction.

[Glenn Beck]

Their leadership, their whole thing is that the Democrats have obstructed this. The Democrats were never going to vote for it. They were never going to vote for it. Never. Now you have to ask yourself why. Ballist Rhino. You have to ask yourself why. Why would the Democrats not want that? For all of the reasons we all know they're cooking the books. This is just a way to not cook the book. I can't. I can't take it. Everybody gets onto a plane and they need ID and somehow or another it's racist. Everyone knows it's not racist. That's why this has 80% approval rating and you can't get the job done. My gosh, you need to fire him. He needs to be voted out, but he also needs the Nobel Prize. He needs to be. I think the best way to handle somebody like this in the end is just to show everybody who he really is. Who he really is. He is sackless. And it is. It's really. It's disgusting at this time. This is the. I mean, the Fauci thing is bad. This is 80% approval and you can't get it done.

[Show Producer/Assistant]

So charged up or two also really irritates me. So this is the charge is, should we eliminate the filibuster to pass Save America? Which I think right off the bat, it's.

[Glenn Beck]

It's. That's a red herring. A red herring.

[Show Producer/Assistant]

So their response is, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We cannot, you know, win a battle and lose the war. Is that. Is that just being dishonest right off the top? Because they don't even discuss the zombie filibuster part of it.

[Glenn Beck]

You don't. That you're not eliminating. You're eliminating the zombie. Zombie filibuster, which was something invented by the Democrats in the 1970s because the administrative state got so big that they couldn't handle everything. And so they couldn't handle, you know, a filibuster the way they always did. So to just kill bills, they just had to phone it in and say, hey, you know what? I want to filibuster this. Done. Done, and everybody goes on next thing. No, make somebody if you want to. This is the whole point. Try to make the case to the American people that agree 80% that asking for identification is unreasonable. You will not win that argument. No matter how much press you have on your side, you will not win that argument because everyone has id. You want a bank account, you have to have id. It's required. You want to fly, you want to rent a car, you want to buy certain cough syrup, you've got to have id, and everybody knows that. And so the filibuster is supposed to do is give the American people a chance to catch up and go, wait a minute, what are they talking about? That's what it's for. It's not to shut everything down. It's to give people the chance to catch up with the news and go, wait, what are they talking about? So they can't just jam it through or can't just stop it. And by the way, majority rule in Congress and in the Senate is how this whole thing read the words of George Washington and Jefferson and Madison. They all say majority must rule. To have the minority rule is insanity. We don't everybody that they all worked out how everybody is represented so every state is equal. You don't have majority rule in. In, you know, the general elections. Because it wouldn't be fair to the small states. So they balance that out by having the number of representatives and everybody gets two senators. Now it's majority rule. It's insanity. Insanity.

[Show Producer/Assistant]

Representative Anna Paulina Luna addressed this directly and she said, quote, word around the Capitol is that Thune has no plan on bringing Save America to the floor because he's trying to protect his fellow senators from a, quote, tough vote before the midterms. He's hiding behind the filibuster.

[Glenn Beck]

It's not a tough vote. Every one of your vote, 80% of your voters want it. It's what's causing you to have people question who you are. It's, it's hurting the Republican Party. I mean, cheese, he's also brainless, apparently. Let me tell you about Relief Factor. Look, it would be great if somebody could just, you know, carry you around on a comfy bed all the time. I mean, the Egyptians used to do it. Why can't they do it with us now? Anyway, you never have to move again. Wouldn't that be great? All right, so let me get out of this daydream here for a second where I don't ever even have to move and tell you that, you know, you're going to deal with pain because you have to move. And it's good to move. It's good to be able to do the things that you want to do. Relief Factor is there. It's a daily supplement designed for, for, by doctors for support of your body's natural response to inflammation. You know, it'll help you feel like you're aging normally, not in dog years. You know, I want you to try it. It is relief factor. Reliefactor.com relieffactor.com 1776 for a three week quick start. So, you know, if it works or not. Go to relieffactor.com 8004 relief. That's 800. The number 4 relief. Common sense is a fleeting quality in media, but around here it's standard practice. Hang tight. Glenn Beck returns next.

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

Foreign.

[Glenn Beck]

We're just talking about this K pop thing that's going on. We should talk about this tomorrow. You know, the Grammys have a, have a category now where it's, you know, for Asian pop music. And what's the group?

[Show Producer/Assistant]

Bts.

[Glenn Beck]

Bts. They said, well, no, we don't accept your nomination. We, we, we're music. We're not Asian music, we're pop. Put us in the pop category. And so they didn't. They, they refused the nomination and I applaud them. Thank you get out of the group. You know, these, these things are so you, you know why they wrecked if you think they did. I don't think they did, but in case you think they did, why they wrecked the. Oh, shoot. What's the movie that's just out starts with an O. Odyssey. Odyssey. Why they, why they wrecked Odyssey if you think so is they were trying to get into the category so they could be nominated for an Oscar. They have to have certain categories in there. Get out of the category business. Get out of it. And by the way, these, they're all who you know, et cetera, et cetera, and who's in favor and who's not. Do you know how many, how many Grammys did Elvis Presley win? How many Grammys? I would guess like 21 out of his whole career. One. How many for rock and roll?

[Show Producer/Assistant]

Zero.

[Glenn Beck]

He won one Grammy for a gospel album. Zero Grammys for rock and roll. It's a game.

[Show Producer/Assistant]

The king of rock and roll.

[Glenn Beck]

The king of rock and roll won no Grammys.

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

For what?

[Glenn Beck]

Rock and roll. That's insanity. That's insanity. So keep your Grammy. Just keep it. Ricky says we don't want her little black rain cloud on the start or the Save America Act. And when she said that to us, we're like, well, wait, now we have to know what it is. What news do you have on it?

[Caller/Commentator]

Well, okay, so Thom Tillis and Cornyn, they're the lame duck Republicans who are part of the reason why we can't get to 50 votes. They hate Trump and they're just going to give the middle finger on their way out the door. So I have a sincere question. How do we get to 50 votes with those little jerks? That's my first question. You got an answer?

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

No.

[Caller/Commentator]

Okay, just wanted to like this rain cloud. Here's my second question. We keep talking about. 80% of America wants us to pass the SAVE Act. 80% of America actually wants a government issued photo ID. The SAVE act actually requires proof of citizenship. So a birth certificate or a passport. Can we call the Democrats bluff and, and settle or compromise for the government issued photo ID instead of that higher.

[Glenn Beck]

Well, that's something that citizenship. That is, that is something that. No, I don't want a government id. The last thing I want is government issuing id. No, but that is something that, you know, they have all kinds of problems. Everybody would say, oh, okay, birth certificate. You have to produce your birth certificate to get a passport, to get a lot of things. So what is the problem with that? Get a birth. You want to vote, then get a birth certificate. Get your birth certificate. You know, you want to travel. I don't sit there and bitch at the State Department. I have to produce a. That's outrageous. I have to produce. You want to travel? Then produce your damn birth certificate. You want to vote? Produce your damn birth certificate. Don't tell me you can't find your birth certificate. Birth certificate. You can get a birth certificate. And if not, you know, well, then we should have a talk about why you can't get that birth certificate. Just saying. Just saying. Okay, we'll see you tomorrow. It's. I can't wait to say tomorrow. It's Friday. Have a great day. We'll see you here. May God save the Republic.

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

Climb back.

[Glenn Beck]

Is on.