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11.4 The Complicated Truth About Dick Cheney’s Legacy | Guest: Stephen Moore | 11/4/25FULL
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Glenn Beck
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Stephen Moore
Down the road where shadows hide Feel the dark on every side Stand your ground when times get dark Gotta face the dog and embrace the fire.
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Glenn Beck
The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck Program. Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. I think today's theme of the show is really, what does it mean to be a conservative in 2025? 26. Okay. What does it mean? Because I'm not sure anybody knows what it means because it is changing so rapidly. Now. The New York Times came out with an article yesterday. They say that Nick Fuentes is, is the leader of the conservative movement or the, you know, the replacement for Charlie Kirk. That is absolutely offensive nonsense. And I would talk about that. I want to address that today. I also would like to address the passing of Dick Cheney, but in a different way. Look, I liked Dick Cheney. I thought there was a lot of great things that came from Dick Cheney. But again, it's a different time. Have we learned the lessons from the life of Dick Cheney? I'm gonna start there in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about Patriot Mobile. 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We never went to war, thank God. We never went to war, but our perceived strength did all of the work for us. But we didn't know because the last time we had tanks rolling anywhere was Vietnam. And we thought that was a very bad thing. Well, George H.W. bush comes into office, and he brought with him, um, a man who had five deferments in Vietnam. He had never served in uniform, and he picks that guy, a guy from Wyoming, not loud, not flashy, to step into the role of Secretary of defense. That was pretty controversial. Wait a minute. What? Hold it. The guy didn't look like a warrior. He looked honestly like the accountant that balanced the books after the battle. He was quiet, soft spoken, but he was firm. He was very clear on what he believed. And he believed, perhaps more deeply than almost anybody else in Washington, that a nation that can't defend itself isn't going to remain free. And so Reagan had really built the military up. And Dick Cheney kind of finished that off with George H.W. bush by restoring the faith in our military, faith that America's strength was not the problem. America's strength was the protector of liberty. I'm old enough to remember the opening night of the Gulf War. CNN was the only news network at the time. And on my living room screen, I was living in Baltimore at the time. There was this eerie green grain of night vision footage which we really hadn't seen before, and missile strikes through the darkness. We had never seen war like this before, not only in night vision, but not live in our living rooms. We had never seen anything like it. And I remember we all kind of held our breath and. And we watched this new kind of war unfold. And it was swift, it was surgical, it was divisive. There was no draft or decisive. There was no draft. There was no chaos, There was no quagmire. For the first time in decades, Americans felt pride without apology when it came to our military. And we still wondered, is it going to be a quagmire? But it wasn't. The mission was very clear. The victory was clean. We liberated Kuwait. That was the mission. And then, then we left. There was. There was, you know, no oil fields, no spoils, no empire building, just a message to the world we could be proud of. This is what moral strength looks like. Free a nation and go home now. When George W. Bush ran for president, I don't think anybody was really comfortable handing the nuclear codes over to this Guy who had been the governor of Texas and really kind of like, hey, let me tell you. Yeah, right. I mean, I wasn't comfortable. He was a guy we barely knew. He seemed somebody. He seemed like somebody who was more comfortable in the stands of a baseball stadium than even, you know, in the main offices of the baseball stadium that he owned, you know? And everything changed in 2000, in the election, when he chose Dick Cheney as his running mate. The reaction was instant, and I think it was the sound of America kind of exhaling a bit. He announced, dick Cheney and Colin Powell, they were the ones that brought us the Gulf War. It was quick, decisive, and over. And America said, okay, okay, okay. He's got Dick Cheney behind him. All right, the adults are back. Then came that blue September morning, and the skies were clear and the markets were open. And in an instant, absolutely everything changed. The world stopped. The New York skyline was filled with smoke, and fear filled the air all over the world, not just here in America. No one knew what was going on. And our president was reading stories to children in Florida. And Dick Cheney became the acting president for a while, until we could get the president to safety. He was the one that was rushed down to the emergency bunker in the White House. He took over. For a while. He was steady, emotionless, and firm. He didn't tremble. He didn't panic. And in those hours, those first few hours, America needed that. But fear, once it's tasted, it's hard to let go. And so we started a war. And it just stretched on and on and on, and the mission became blurry. Freedom became a slogan instead of a strategy. And freedom started to take a different meaning here in America. We passed the Patriot Act. We built the Department of Homeland Security. None of those things had anything to do with freedom. We created the FISA courts and airport lines that never seemed to end. And for a while, we told ourselves, all of this is worth it. It's the price that we have to pay to live in a dangerous, dangerous world. But when you give more to one God, the other gods will demand payment later. And something in those days, a seed that was far more darker was planted. The anthrax attacks. Most people don't even remember them now. They rattled the nation. Cheney, who is always the realist and the adult in the room, always, the Sentinel, told the nation's top scientists, we can't wait for next attack. We have to study it. We have to anticipate it. And so it was Dick Cheney that urged men like Dr. Anthony Fauci to push research Further, faster, into what we now call gain of function. And I'm sure it was born out of good intent to protect us. But as if history often teaches us, good intent can be dangerous as a companion to unchecked power. Or as my grandmother used to always say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. And still, beneath all of that calculation and control, there was a different side of Dick Cheney. He was quiet when his daughter Mary came out as gay. He didn't blink. Long before Clinton evolved, before Obama changed his mind, Cheney the hawk, Darth Vader, the architect of war, said plainly, my daughter deserves the same rights as everybody else. It was personal. It was brave. It was human. And as a politician, he stood almost entirely alone. Nobody gives him credit for that. And he belonged to a different time. A Cold War man in a postmodern world, a deep believer in the chain of command in America's dominance in doing what has to be done, even if the world didn't approve. He died last night. He had five heart attacks in his life. I think it was 2012. He had a heart transplant. Doctor said it would give him another decade of life. Thirteen years later, Dick Cheney's life offers both a chance to give medals and lessons the virtue of strength and the peril of excess. And he should have learned from the first Gulf War. He was the iron for many years in America's spine after decades of doubt. But he was also a reminder that iron rusts if it is left unexamined. We needed his resolve when the towers fell, and perhaps in the years that followed. We needed more of his restraint from 1991, in the years that followed that, but we didn't get it. And so he leaves behind a really complicated legacy which I think is appropriate today as I try to talk to you today about what does it mean to be a conservative on all fronts? What does it mean? Dick Cheney was a conservative for a man of his time. But he lost one of the main principles, and that is conservatives believe in the rule of law and the Constitution. He's a patriot, yes, but he's also a warning to us. He helped America find its courage, but he also taught us how easily courage can drift into control. And he left us some lessons that we should learn. The Patriot act that has given our government tools to spy on its own citizens. On Capitol Hill. Nobody is talking about this, but this is the biggest scandal probably in American intelligence and American corruption of all time. The Patriot act made all of it possible. A government, government wide scandal of a president spying on his opponent's party, including senators and congressmen and donors and average citizens. That's still being revealed. Nobody's talking about it. But that came from the Patriot act. That gave him the power to do it. The FISA courts, as we know, in a completely other scandal, the FISA courts were lied to. Our FBI actually changed, physically changed documents to falsify testimony, to secure wiretaps that said they needed, that we now know were unwarranted and illegal. What else should we learn today? We paid a heavy price for never ending wars in blood, in treasure and faith. We failed to learn the right lessons from the Gulf War. Define the mission narrowly, execute it efficiently, and then get the hell out of there and come home. Enhanced interrogation. That's Dick Cheney. We called torture enhanced interrogation. And we still refuse as a people to have this debate. We either torture or we do not. And it's the people that should make the decision. No one in the world looks to a nation who says one thing, but then farms out the torture to another dictator or authoritarian someplace else. They don't look at that and go, you know what? There's a great nation. We should also learn the lesson. I mean, think if we just learned this. No. Enhanced interrogation, it's torture. It's not. You cannot change the name. You can't change the meaning of words, okay? Enhanced interrogation is still torture. No matter. No matter what. No matter what you do to a man surgically, he's still a man. You can't just say, oh, no, that's a woman. Changing the words doesn't change reality. And the heaviest lesson we have not learned a bit from is gain of function. It may be illegal, but it is still happening. Because there are those in the government on both sides of the aisle that think it's important. It is not. It has killed millions and it has changed our world. In that crisis, we saw blue states give new dictatorial powers that still haven't been corrected. So Dick Cheney, believe it or not, I actually liked Dick Cheney. But I've changed. The times have changed. And I would like to salute his service to a nation for what he did. And he actually believed he was doing the right thing. And he did do the right thing in his day, but things have changed. And his passing marks, not just the end of a man's life, but the close of that age, an age of secrecy and steel and certainty. Honor Dick Cheney's service today. But can we learn from the mistakes? And can we remember one thing? The strength of a nation is not measured just by its power to strike, but Its wisdom to stop. Back in a minute. We have apps now that tell us, you know, when to stand up, drink water, go back to bed. We track our steps, our sleep, our calorie, how many hours we spent staring at our screens. We make health smarter, faster, more connected. 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Go to jace.com, J-A-S-E.com jace.com get a discount. Jace.com promo code BECK. Ten seconds back to the show. We are seeing some of the worst damage we have ever seen from a hurricane. And an update for the hurricane relief for Jamaica. The need is tremendous. There is no running water. There is no electricity. All of Mercury One's partners are gathering together to help put supplies on a cargo plane tomorrow. Tents, blankets, tarps cover whatever is left of their houses. They're washing and drinking out of the rivers and streams. There is no water. Houses are gone. As I said, it is the worst we have ever seen. If you would like to help, please join us@mercury1.org Go there. You'll find out everything you can do to help donate. If you have even a dollar, it will help. Mercury1.org Every penny will go downstream to helping the people in Jamaica. Mercury1.org that's mercury1.org hello Stu.
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Stu
Hey, Glenn. I.
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Glenn Beck
How are you?
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Stu
Good. I was thinking of when you're thinking of Cheney and obviously I understand why that is the focus of his legacy.
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Glenn Beck
Right.
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Stu
Like those things. But what I always remember about him is my favorite speech that he made was about energy and he talked about how conservation and at the time he's like, oh, conservation, this is. We Know everyone's trying to do conservation. He's a. Conservation may be a sign of personal virtue, but it is not sufficient basis for a sound, comprehensive energy policy. People work very hard to get where they are, and the hardest working are the least likely to go around squandering energy or anything else that costs them money. Our strategy will recognize that the present crisis does not represent a failing of the American people. I just think that's the way we should be looking at energy, the way we should be looking at this. Instead of trying to conserve our way and 1970s Jimmy Carter our way out of our problems with this stuff. It should be produce more energy and embrace the progress that we're making in that world. And instead, the left has been trying to push back against that for years. And I don't know, that's not the way that people talk about Dick Cheney. He doesn't get focused on that. But I thought that was a really important thing that even the right is sort of losing sight of at some point.
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Glenn Beck
At some point, I think Dick Cheney, I mean, I really have a hard time saying bad things about Dick Cheney. I mean, I mean, the policies that he enacted at the time seemed right now we have to learn from those policies. But he was really, really strong on so many things. He really made a positive difference on many fronts. It is our job to separate the good from the bad and say, yeah, okay, those things were wrong. Let's correct those right now. This is Glenn Beck. It's amazing because if the right and the left were together right now, we'd all agree on everything. Everything that the left was talking about, Dick Cheney. A lot of those things we agree on. We could correct them in a heartbeat, but they won't. Holiday season is more than just music and mall lights. It brings, you know, high crime, which is great. Preparation is what keeps your family safe. The one reason I like the Berna Compact launcher is it's the same serious protection as the original burner, but packed into a smaller, easier to carry package. It fits in a hand, a glove box, or a backpack without compromising power. I think this should be in every backpack for every college student. I think this should be in every university classroom, every teacher's classroom. You can't kill people, but you can take them down and put them down for about 45 minutes. You do this, you just put your hand around the corner and just shoot it towards the guy who was shooting in the classrooms. And it'll fire tear gas and kinetic rounds with about 60 foot. You just put it 10ft in front of him and you're. He's down for five, 40 minutes. That's time for you to get safe. Go to Burna, would you, by r n a.com Glenn learn more about this. You should have one in your home. Burna.com Glenn get the email newsletter from.
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Stu
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Glenn Beck
So we have hit a critical juncture, a turning point, if you will, on the closure of the government. And the government needs to open back up. And I'm going to explain it in a way that nobody else will explain it to you if you're watching cnbc over the last couple of days, they were saying things like, you know, the repo market is under great stress and they've loaned out. Banks have been getting money, you know, from the Federal Reserve at, at incredible rates. Highest it's been since 2020. What does that mean? What does that mean? The banks, when they close at night, they have to have a certain amount of cash in their vaults to cover everything. It's a requirement by law. And if they don't have that, then they have to go to what's called the repo market. And they borrow money overnight. They pay interest on it and they borrow it overnight, and they give it back in the morning when they open back up, okay? It's only done when banks are short of cash. It used to be a very bad thing, but now it's kind of happening all the time, but not these levels. So let me explain what all of this means, okay? Try to imagine, if you will, that America's financial system is like a living body, okay? The heart, as much as I hate to say it, for this example, is the Federal Reserve. It doesn't create life, but it keeps the blood pumping, okay? The arteries and the veins are the banks and the institutions that carry the lifeblood of the economy, money, okay? And the capillaries are like you and me. Every family, every small business, every worker trying to make a paycheck stretch from one week to the next, okay? We're not an artery, we're capillaries. Now, in this body, there is something called the repo market, okay? This is a place where banks and institutions go to borrow cash overnight, okay? Think of that cash like oxygen, okay? The oxygen exchange that happens in the lungs. It's fast, it's constant, it's invisible, but it is vital. You don't have the oxygen, it doesn't matter what the blood's doing, right? Every night, money goes out every morning. Money comes back in, and that rhythm is what keeps the entire body alive. Well, in the last few days, that rhythm has faltered. Something is clogging the arteries, the banks, the vessels. They're gasping now for oxygen. So they're going to the Fed's emergency oxygen tank, the standing repo facility, and they are drawing records, amount. Record amounts of cash out just to keep breathing, okay? It's like watching a marathon runner suddenly reach for an oxygen mask at mile three. Why? Why is this happening? The important part? Because while the government is shut down and we might think, well, that's good, they're not spending money. The treasury is the fiscal liver of the body, and it's storing all of the blood in the liver, okay? It's storing cash in a vault now called the Treasury General Account. There's nearly a trillion dollars sitting in there. Cash, trillion dollars sitting there not. Not being paid. Every dollar that goes into that vault is a dollar that can't circulate now through the body. So now it's starving everything of cash because there's a trillion dollars sitting in the Treasury. And even though you can't see it, every second the shutdown drags on, the system is being starved and the arteries are tightening and the heart is straining and the body is starting to shiver. And that's what's happening right now in the shadows of our financial system.
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Stephen Moore
System.
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Glenn Beck
It's not about Wall street greed. It's not some obscure number on a Bloomberg terminal. It is about a government that is turned inward, frozen by politics, unable to pass the simplest resolution to fund itself. And because it's doing this, it's pulling all of that precious liquidity, a trillion dollars in cash, the oxygen, the life of our economy, out of the bloodstream into a vault. If you've ever had a power outage in winter, you might know the feeling. Let me describe it this way. First, it's fine. You grab a candle, you grab a blanket. It's kind of fun. You start the fireplace. Hours drag on, the house starts to get a little cooler. If it continues to drop on, the pipes begin to freeze. And by morning, it's no longer a cute little thing that, oh, we're just gonna sit by the fireplace. It's cold, okay? That's where we're at financially right now. We are not at the point of collapse, but we are at the point of freezing the pipes. What does that mean when I'm talking about the arteries? The government shutdown has locked up the Treasury's checkbook. That means fewer payments to contractors, less Spending less money flowing into the banking system. When less cash circulates, the banks can't lend freely because there's no cash. Money gets tight repo rates, that invisible overnight interest rates that starts to spike. And when that happens, it affects the capillaries. You and me, the smallest place players, the smallest businesses, the consumers, the credit unions. We begin to feel it first. Okay, when arteries clog at the heart, what's the first part of the body that goes cold, goes numb? The fingers, the toes. That's us. Here's the tragic irony. The politicians, you know, in the Democratic Party fighting over principle, they may think it's about posturing, about leverage, about who blinks first, but it's not. While they're playing chicken with our nation's checkbook, it is now time to say, okay, enough is enough, because the system is starting to gasp for air. And this is how financial crisis begin. We're not in one yet, but again, the pipes are beginning to freeze. And this is how things happen. They. They happen quietly. Not with a bang, you know, not with a crash, but with tightening, with the arteries getting clogged. All of a sudden, you have a widowmaker. And you didn't see it coming because it's a slow, silent squeeze that begins in the overnight funding markets, the kind of plumbing that nobody ever looks at, nobody ever talks about, nobody even understand. Do you understand how the pipes are working in your house, behind your walls?
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Stephen Moore
I don't even know where they go.
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Glenn Beck
I mean, I know they eventually go down and out, but I don't know. And all of a sudden, you find out when a pipe bursts. Make no mistake, if this continues, it won't just be the banks that are hurting. It will be your mortgage rate, your credit card interest, your grocery bill, because the system has to begin charging more for everything because they are paying more in interest to hoard what little cash is out there. The longer it goes on, the more cash goes into the government and it sits there. It's. It's like watching your bloodstream start to clot. You're not going to feel it right away, but if it reaches the heart, reaches the brain, the damage can be fatal. So here's the one truth today on the economy that the media won't tell you or they fail to explain. The repo market. What the hell does that mean? Why are you only talking to the people on Wall Street? Why don't you tell the people who are going to be affected first? Why can you? How can an alcoholic DJ figure out a way to explain this? To the average person. But you can't. This shutdown is not just a political stale, stale stalemate. It is a self inflicted wound. We are at a point now where the government is literally draining oxygen from the economy and the Fed is in triage mode, pumping emergency liquidity into the veins just to keep the patient alive. The question is how long can the Fed keep doing CPR before it tires out? How long before they just. We gotta start printing money. The cure is not more money money printing. It's governance. It's having a adult in the room. It's lawmakers that understand that starving the bloodstream to win a headline is not courage. It's madness. When? When will the Democrats stop this game? The shutdown has to end. Not because Wall street wants it, but because Main street needs it. The blood of the American economy. The trust, the liquidity, the stability. It's not infinite. And once the heart starts to falter. It takes more than an emergency repo to bring a nation back life. This must end. Back in a minute. Our sponsor this half hour is American Financing. You may have noticed lately everything costs more. Your paycheck just doesn't stretch, you know, as far as it used to. We're all doing the same things. We're paying the mortgage, making the minimums, keeping up with life. And it feels like you're running a race that just keep adding new laps. You're like, wait, I thought the race was. No. Truth is most people aren't drowning because they're irresponsible. They're drowning because the system is stacked now in a way that you can't get out. Nobody ever taught you how to fight back financially. This is where American Financing comes in. This is what they do. They're family owned mortgage company and they built to help you regain control of your money and your peace of mind. Whether you're refinancing to lower your rate, consolidating high interest debt into a single manageable payment, or paying off your home years sooner. Their salary. Mortgage consultants are going to walk you through it step by step. No pressure, no gimmicks. Just honest help. When everybody else seems content to let you struggle. These are the people who actually believe in doing something that is right. Just do the next right thing. American Financing. Because you deserve a plan that actually works in a future that's truly yours. Please call American Financing now. 800-906-2440. That's 800-906-2440 or go to americanfinancing.net nmls 182-3-3,4, nmlsconsumeraccess.org APR for Ritz in the five starts at 6.799% for, well, qualified borrowers. Call 800-906-2440 for details about credit costs and terms. The rope may break, but the ride goes on. This is gl. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. Stu asked me during the break, what was it? Stu, why is this happening?
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Stu
You kind of talked about the systems of how all this stuff operates, but, like, why, you know, why is this occurring right now? Because of what a shutdown. I mean, we've had shutdowns, but not like this.
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Glenn Beck
Not this long. Okay. We're now starting to see the effects of it. Okay, so let me. Let me see if I can explain this quickly. Do you remember in It's a Wonderful Life where the Jimmy Stewart character just, they had $2 left, and they're like, let's put these back into the vault and hope they have little babies. Remember, they just had to have at least a dollar in the bank to close. That meant they weren't out of business. Well, after the crash, the government said, hey, you've got to have more than just a couple of dollars because you have all of these liabilities out there. So in a global market, what happens if the global market starts to tank? You better have the cash to cover everything that happens between 5pm and 9am all right? Otherwise, you're not going to be able to open. All right? So they pass this law, and you have to have a certain amount of money in your vault every night. It used to be a thing of shame, but we just got so reckless with our money. But the Federal Reserve used to have what's called a discount window, and it was shameful to go there. It was like, oh, this bank might be going out of business. It doesn't have enough money to cover all of its debts. And you would go there and you say, I need to. I need a loan for the cash overnight. And they. You pay it back. Here's what's happened. That's always been. Since 2008, that's been going on for a long time. Okay? There's no more shame in it or anything else. Unfortunately, what's happening is the government, we look at this as a good thing, as conservatives, and say, good, we don't have to spend all that money. But it's like an ssri. You're taking antipsychotic medication. You might want to stop it. And you're like, you know, I feel great. Everything's great. And you stop it. But the doctors always say, don't, don't just stop it. You've got to wean yourself off of that, because really bad things can happen if you just stop your SSRIs, right? The same thing with this. The government controls over 30% of our economy. Imagine, let's. Let's say it's just 20% that's actually not being funded right now. 20% of our economy. Imagine if 20% of everybody who spent money every day just said, you know what? I'm not leaving the house and I'm not spending money at all for the next month and a half. Wouldn't hurt the first week, maybe the second week. But by the third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth week, you're now looking at restaurants and movie theaters and everything else starting to go out of business because they're not spending the money, and that money is just sitting in the bank. In this particular case, that money is sitting in the treasury, not the bank. So now it also hurts the banks because they can't make loans, because they don't have the cash, because it's all sitting in the treasury vault. The treasury vault has to be opened up. We have to start paying people so the economy doesn't crash, so we don't have to print more money to keep the banks afloat. And so we don't put all of these other ancillary businesses, all the capillaries, all the restaurants, all the little things that you and I do every day that they don't go out of business. That's why it's happening. And it wasn't a problem at first, but we've just stopped serious medication keeping our economy afloat. And that is government spending. You have to do that carefully, slowly calculated. You can't just shut the system off. And that's what's happened. And it's happened. And the Democrats know it. They know it. Believe me. They know what's happening. There's a reason why they're doing a. What is it? Just say no to Trump? That big thing where they're asking a million people to show up and surround the White House on November 5th. Have you even heard of that? Hopefully nobody shows up, but this is this. They're pushing this one to force us to answer the question. If the people are out of control because they say it's an authoritarian government and the White House is under siege, can the government respond in authoritarian way to put that down, or will that mean we go into civil war? I mean, they keep pushing and pushing and pushing and now they're pushing the financial system as well. Why? Because they want a color revolution. They want to collapse. Not every Democrat wants that, but the ones who know do. That's why this is happening. That's why this is so urgent right now. We're running out of time. If we make it to Thanksgiving and they haven't done anything, this is really colossally bad. It will be very bad for the holiday season. And, you know, do they ever do anything during the Christmas vacation? If they ever do it, they just pass something horrible while we're all just like, I want some more turkey. And then they go and like, yeah, you know what? We're gonna build cages for the American people. They'll love it. Pass it now. Democrats, knock it off. You're clogging the arteries. You're killing the body. Stop it right now. This is Glenn Beck. So everybody, every family has that one person who stays calm when things go sideways. Sideways. I mean, one person. Usually everybody else is screaming their heads off. It's the one who checks the flashlight batteries, keeps the extra water in the garage. Some of us always know where the first aid kit. You might be that person in my family. It's Tanya. But even the most prepared among us can forget something obvious. Medicine. That's why we back up our photos, our files, even our coffee makers. But we don't back up our prescriptions. And when a supply chain fails or the doctor's office closes for a while, or you're just in the weekend and you can't get your kid the medicine they need without going to the emergency room, Jace medical changes all of that. 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Stephen Moore
When times get darker, face the dog and embrace the fire.
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Glenn Beck
The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program. Hello, America. Well, we're at a crossroads. Not as just a nation, not just as a civilization, but also as conservatives. What. What does it even mean to be a conservative? The New York Times wrote this outrageous piece I'm going to get into in deep, in depth Tomorrow about how Nick Fuentes is the replacement for Charlie Kirk. It is absolutely full of lies, distortions, and absolutely untrue, and they should be ashamed of themselves. You want to know who Nick Fuentes is? Listen to the bravest podcast I've heard in a long time, Ben Shapiro. Last night he put a podcast out on who that guy is. But we have this going on where we're fighting, it seems, amongst ourselves, over the soul. And then Dick Cheney's death. He died last night at the age of 84. He was, he represented strength and compassion. You know, he was one of the first political people ever to stand up and go, you know what? My daughter's gay and I love her, so I'm for gay marriage. That nobody was doing that. But he was also for these never ending wars. He was for the Patriot Act. He, you know, a globalist. What. What is that? A conservative. What does it mean to be a conservative? Let me, let me start there in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about my Patriot supply. Ever since COVID a lot of Americans have woken up to something our grandparents understood instinctively, the value of being ready when everything else shuts down. It becomes clear how quickly normal life can change. And that's why millions of people started stocking up on emergency supplies, especially food. But there's one mistake people still make. They have food, but they don't have any way to cook it if the power goes out. That's my Patriot supply. They put together their Black Friday survival special. It's a four week emergency food kit. Breakfast, lunch, dinners that last up to 25 years. They right now are throwing in $150 worth of free gear that includes a cook stove, fuel, fire starters, water purifiers, and a bug out bag and so much more. It's everything you need to ride out a storm, a blackout, or whatever comes next. And honestly, it makes a good Christmas gift. And it's only available through Black Friday. So head to my patriotsupply.com Glenn. Check everything out that is included in this. With all of the uncertainty in the world right now, you just can't afford to go unprepared. So go to my patriotsupply.com Glenn and get prepared. My patriotsupply.com Glenn. You know, I am so tired of being against everything, saying what we are not. It's time that we start saying what we are. And it's hard because we're changing. It's different to be a conservative today than it was, you know, years ago. And part of that has just come from hard Knocks school of hard knocks. We've learned a lot of lesson, lessons on things that we thought we were for. And we're like, no, no, but conservatives. To be a conservative shouldn't be about policies. It's really about principles. And that's why we've lost our way, because we've lost our principles. And it's easy, because the world got easy. And now the world is changing so rapidly. The boundaries between truth and illusion are blurred second by second. Machines now think currencies falter, families fractured, and nations all over the world have forgotten who they are. So what does it mean to be a conservative now in 2025, 26? For a lot of people, it means opposing the left. That's. That's a reaction. That's not renewal. That's a reaction. It can't mean also worshiping the past as if the past were perfect. The Founders never asked for that. They asked that we would preserve the principles and perfect their practice. They knew it was imperfect. To make a more perfect nation is what we're supposed to be doing. 20, 25, 26. Being a conservative has to mean stewardship, the stewardship of a nation, of a civilization, of a moral inheritance that is too precious to abandon. What does it mean to conserve? To conserve something doesn't mean to stand still. It means to stand guard. It means to defend what the Founders designed. The separation of powers, the rule of law, the belief that our rights come not from kings or from Congress, but from the Creator himself. This is a system that was not built for ease. It was built for endurance. And it will endure if we only teach it again. The problem is we only teach it like it's a museum piece, you know. It's not a museum piece. It's not an old, dusty document. It's a living covenant between the dead, the living and the unborn. So this chapter of. Of conservatism must confront reality, Economic reality, global reality, and moral reality. It's not enough just to be against something or chant, chant tax cuts or free markets. We have to ask, we have to start with simple questions like freedom. Yes, but freedom for what? Freedom for economic sovereignty? Your right to produce and to innovate, to build without asking Beijing's permission. That. That's a moral issue. Now another moral issue. Debt. It's a. It's generational theft. We're spending money from generations we won't even meet. And dependence. Another moral issue. It's a national weakness. People cannot stand up for themselves. They can't make it themselves. And we're encouraging Them to sit down, shut up, and don't think. And the conservative who can't connect with fiscal prudence and connect fiscal prudence to moral duty. You're not a conservative at all. Being a conservative today means you have to rebuild an economy that serves liberty, not one that survives by debt. And then there's the soul of the nation. We are living through a time period, an age of dislocation, where our families are fractured, our faith is almost gone. Meaning is evaporating so fast nobody knows what meaning of life is. That's why everybody's killing themselves. They have no meaning in life. And why they don't have any meaning is truth itself is mocked and blurred and replaced by nothing but lies and noise. If you want to be a conservative, then you have to become the moral compass that reminds a lost people liberty cannot survive without virtue, that freedom untethered from moral order is nothing but chaos. And that no app, no algorithm, no ideology is ever going to fill the void where meaning used to live. To be a conservative moving forward, we cannot just be about policies. We have to defend the sacred, the unseen, the moral architecture that gives people an identity. So how do you do that? Well, we have to rebuild competence. We have to restore institutions that actually work. Listen to last hour's monologue on what we're facing now. Because we can't open the government. Why can't we open the government? Because government is broken. Why does nobody care? Because education is broken. We have to reclaim education, not as propaganda, but as the formation of the mind and the soul. Conservatives have to champion innovation, not to imitate Silicon Valley's chaos, but to harness technology in defense of human dignity. Don't be afraid of AI. Know what it is, know it's a tool. It's a tool to strengthen people. As long as you always remember it's a tool. Otherwise you will lose your humanity to it. That's a conservative principle. To be a conservative, we have to restore local strength. Our families are the basic building blocks. Our schools are churches. And our charities, not some big, distant NGO that started by the Tides foundation, but actual local charities where you see people actually working a web of voluntary institutions that held us together at one point. Because when Washington fails, and it will, it already has, the neighborhood has to stand. Charlie Kirk was doing one thing that people on our side we're not doing. Speaking to the young, but not in nostalgia, not in y'. All. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan. In purpose. They don't remember. They don't remember who Dick Cheney was. I was listening to Fox News. This morning talking about Dick Cheney. And there was somebody there that I know was not even born when Dick Cheney, you know, in the World Trade center came down. They weren't even born. And they were telling me about Dick Cheney and I'm like, come on, man, come on, come on. You don't remember who Dick Cheney is? You don't remember 9, 11? How are you going to remember what Reagan was that just says that's an old man's creed. No, it's not. It is the ultimate timeless rebellion against tyranny in all of its forms. Yes. And even the tyranny of despair which is eating people alive. We need to redefine ourselves because we have changed. And that's a good thing. The creed for a generation that will decide the fate of the Republic is what we need to find. A conservative in 2025, 26 is somebody who protects the enduring principles of American liberty and self government while actively stewarding the institutions, the culture, the economy of this nation for those who are alive and yet to be unborn. We have to be a group of people that we're not anchored in the past or in rage, but in reason and morality, realism and hope for the future. We're the stewards. We're the ones that have to relight the torch. Not just, not just hold it. We didn't build this torch, we didn't make this torch. We're the keepers of the flame, but we are honor bound to pass that forward. And conservatives are viewed as people who just live in the past. We are not here to merely conserve the past, but to renew it and to sort it what worked, what didn't work. We're the ones to say to the world, there's still such a thing as truth. There's still such a thing as virtue. You can deny it all you want, but the pain is only going to get worse. There's still such a thing as America. And if now's not the time to renew America, when is that time? If you're not the person, if we're not the generation to actively stand and redefine and defend, then who is that person? We are. We are supposed to preserve what works. You know, I was writing something this morning as I was making notes on this. A constitutionalist is for restraint. A progressive, if you will, for lack of a better term, is for more power. Progressives want the government to have more power. Conservatives are for more restraint. But the. For the American eagle to fly, we must have both wings. And one can't be stronger than the other. We as a conservative are supposed to look and say, no, don't do that. See, the past teaches us this, this and this. So don't. Don't do that. We can't do that. But there are these things that we were doing in the past that we have to jettison. And maybe the other side has a good idea on what should replace that. But we're the ones who are supposed to say no. But remember the framework there, they can dream all they want. They can come up with all these utopias and everything else. We go, that's a great idea. But how do we make it work with this framework? Because that's our job. The point of this is it takes both. It takes both. We have to have the customs and the moral order and the practices that have stood the test of time and trial. We. We're in an amazing, amazing time. Amazing time. We live in a time now where anything, literally anything is possible. I don't want to be against stuff. I want to be for the future. I want to be for a rich, dynamic future, one where we are part of changing the world for the better, where more people are lifted out of poverty, more people are given the freedom to choose whatever it is that they want to choose as their own government and everything. I don't want to force it down anybody's throat. We. I am so excited to be a shining city on the hill again. We have that opportunity right in front of us. But not if we get bogged down in hatred, in division. Not if we get bogged down into being against something we must be for something. I know what I'm for. Do you? More in a minute. Dogs don't hide how they feel. When they're happy, you know it. Clap your hands when they're not. You know it. And you don't have to clap your hands. Maybe they're just sleeping more, moving slowly. Maybe they're just not excited to chase the ball like they used to be. And you start to wonder, is it age or is something wrong? Most dog food is cooked at high temperatures that burn away all the good stuff. The enzymes, the vitamins, the probiotics that keep them feeling alive. Rough greens puts that nutrition back where it belongs. 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Stu
I did hear a good chunk of it, yeah.
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Glenn Beck
Pretty powerful. I think he did it. I think he did it the right way. The Nick Fuente stuff was. Was so very clarifying. So very clarifying.
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Stu
Yeah. I think there's been a lot of talk about this, obviously, sort of online and internally in the world of conservatism. I mean, I just, lots of internal. I don't think a lot of people have any idea who this guy is, frankly. So I think, I think they need.
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Glenn Beck
To know at this point when the New York Times comes out and does an article today that he's the future of Turning Point, that, that is so reprehensible. No, no, he's not.
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Stu
Yeah, I agree with that. But I think it certainly gives a picture as to who he is and what he believes. Right. And so if there's going to be some debate around this person, I guess people need to know who he is and what he thinks. I don't think.
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Glenn Beck
Make your own decision.
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Stu
Again, I don't even understand the conversation around most of it, though. It's like they're like, oh, there's a debate between sort of this no enemies to the right philosophy. And it's like, in what world is this guy to my right, a guy who likes Joseph Stalin is to my right. I don't even know what are you even talking about. This is just nonsense to me.
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Glenn Beck
And he hates maga. He hates Donald Trump, hates him, hates him. He's not a MAGA guy. He's not a conservative by any stretch of the imagination. And the stuff that he says is absolutely an abomination to everything that we believe in. Everything.
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Stu
Yeah, I don't really understand. Again, a lot of people are much more up on this, I suppose, than I am. But like, I heard, I saw one clip of him saying he liked Hitler and Hitler was right and the Holocaust didn't happen. And it's like, well, what was he right about then? Highways.
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Glenn Beck
What was the.
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Stu
If you think he was right, usually that indicates you think he was right about Jews, which would indicate that you'd want the Holocaust to happen.
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Glenn Beck
And it does seem to no he did the math. He did the math on how many Jews Hitler could kill by comparing Jews to cookies. Do you think?
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Stu
I mean, just listening to some of those clips, how much of this is shtick? Like, I, Some of it seems so he's joking and, like, fake about it. I don't even know if it's real. I don't even know what it is.
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Glenn Beck
I don't know. I will tell you this. There, there is. I mean, do you remember when you were in your 20s? I do. I remember when I was in my 20s, I was very flippant and I would say the most outrageous things just because nobody would say them. Right, right.
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Stu
Like.
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Glenn Beck
And so I think.
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Stu
Trying to be offensive.
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Glenn Beck
Yeah. And I think for young men, there is a good portion of them that are just going through that phase of their life where they're just like, saying the most offensive things that they can say. Because I can, I'm not afraid. You know, it's funny to my friends. I don't think that's what he's doing. I think some of it is probably. But there's a difference. There is a line. There is a line. Yeah.
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Stu
Well, of course, I think that's true. It's also, though, the key thing to know if you're one of those troll type people and that's exactly the place you want to go. Wherever that line is, you want to cross it. That's the whole point of this idiocy at that age. Again, there's lots of people. This is not a new thing. Thing to this era. Everyone wanted to say the offensive thing. I just, you know, I think it is important to say that it's obviously horrible to think these things, but I, you know, I don't know, honestly, like, I want to think a lot less about this nonsense. I want to get out of that world. I, I don't like if you really, we really have to have a conversation about whether Hitler or Stalin are good. I mean, it's just like, this is nonsense.
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Glenn Beck
It's. It is. But. Thank you, New York Times. All right, More in a minute. This is Glenn Beck. Let me tell you about relief factor. Every morning, pain tells you a story you didn't ask it to tell. A slower step, a held breath, a plate, you know, left until tomorrow. And over time, those little moments add up, you know, not because you're weak, but because your body is telling you something really important. Don't do something. Don't do that. Something inside is not good and it's slowing you down. Relief factor. It doesn't just try to silence the symptoms with that quick fix that wears off. It works with your body to address the inflammation that keeps the pain lingering. It's a daily approach. Doctors help design it. Millions of people have said it finally helped them start doing the things that they thought were behind them. You know, bending to tie a shoe without grimacing. Sleeping through the night. How about that one? Walking out the door without planning the day around the pain. I mean, it's just gutting you. Day after day, reclaim the small freedoms that make life feel full again. The longer hug the backyard weekend project, the walk with somebody you love. Give the three week quick start a try. It's 1995. Visit relieffactor.com or call 800 for relief 800, the number four relief it relieffactor.com.
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Stu
Go over to Glenn beck.com and sign up for the free email newsletter. It's every story we talk about every day and all the news on the torch.
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Glenn Beck
It's@glenn beck.com January 5th, the torches launched at glenn beck.com and I am so excited to show you all of the things we've been working on. I'm, I'm working on a. What I hope will be a 20 episode podcast. But it just, it's, it's growing out of control expense wise. So it might be a 10 episode, but it is all about the beginning of America. And it's our 250th anniversary and I want to tell the story of America. We start with Columbus and right now I'm up to episode five. There's all be released in January, but I'm up to episode number five and it's about Samuel Adams. And the one thing I learned as I'm, as I'm doing this journey through the founding era is we are so much alike. We are so much alike. And yet we look back and we think, you know, that it's this grand, united, heroic movement with powdered wigs and parchment and fireworks and everything else. And it's like, no, no, it was a bunch of people who disagreed on an awful lot. And somehow or another everybody just did what they were born to do. And all of a sudden just, I mean, just, it just happened. It just happened. It was amazing. And not everybody was for it. You know, if you were living back then, you know, a farmer in Pennsylvania or a merchant in Boston or a blacksmith in Virginia, it didn't feel grand. It didn't feel grand. It felt terrifying and confusing and to me now, oddly familiar. The truth is that their world in our world Is not that different, and we fail to recognize it. And we should start. This is. This is why history is so important. This is why the torch. This is my next, you know, the next chapter of my life is all about history. Because if we can just remember history and put it into perspective, the answers become very, very clear. Our founders were frustrated by powerful men thousands of miles away making decisions about their life without ever asking their permission or asking their opinion on it. I don't know. Sound familiar? They felt watched, they felt silenced, they felt overruled. All they wanted to do is live free, plant, build, worship without somebody telling him exactly how they had to do it every step of the way. Again, sound familiar? But they weren't philosophers. Locked, you know. You know, locked into a room, reading John Locke by candlelight. That's. I mean, most of them were just struggling to feed their families and stay out of trouble. And. And a lot of them didn't want to choose sides at all. I mean, 30% of the American people didn't choose a side, but something stirred in them. Here's what I want to. Here's what I want you to remember on. On history and where we are right now and why. I said just a few minutes ago when I was outlining what I think a conservative is. Revolutions. Most revolutions are.
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Stephen Moore
Are.
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Glenn Beck
Are fed by rage. They begin in rage. Ours began in conviction. Most revolutions in history are about tearing something down. Ours was about building something better. And that's when we find that. When the conservatives find that and go, look, we're building this, and they can point to the horizon. We're going to the moon and returning a man back in the next decade. When we do that, that's when we'll capture the imaginations. That's why Elon Musk has captured the imagination of the entire world, because he's like, I'm going to Mars. I'm going to build this company. It's going to do this. And everybody's like, oh, my gosh. And look, he's doing it. All of the ideas that they had, they were eternal. They had all been preached in the pulpits. I can't wait for our library to open up. You're going to see we have all of the important sermons that our founders grew up listening to from the pulpits. And it explains in clear language exactly why our declaration says what it does. Because this is what they heard from the churches all the time. Okay? It was about man's equality before God, not government. It's about conscience being sacred and not for sale. The Founders didn't invent those ideas. They were raised on them. What are we raising our kids on? You know, they heard them on Sundays, and then they lived them on Mondays, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. They taught them to their children every day. That's what made our revolution different from France or from Russia or any other uprising in. In history. It wasn't driven by revenge. It wasn't driven by envy. Wouldn't you like to be a part of something that is driven by goodness and hope, man? I would. Something that is anchored in truth and something we can share, the understanding we all share, you know, freedom. Freedom with. With virtue. Freedom. Look, I don't have to regulate you. If you regulate yourself, I won't. You don't regulate me, I won't regulate you. But if you have freedom without virtue, it's chaos. And virtue without freedom becomes tyranny. But the people didn't understand that. That's not what they were debating. They just believed in something. That the king was not greater than God, and he couldn't take away their rights because God gave them the rights. That was enough. Just that was enough to have the center hold. Do we even believe that now? Because we need something where the center can hold. God gave. Gave us these rights. No king, no dictator, no trump, no Biden can ever take those away. We're in a similar storm right now. Division, distrust, fear. Everything seems to be breaking down. And the same arguments are being shouted. I mean, we call them bars now, but taverns, dinner tables. It's funny, because the difference isn't the problem. The problem is exactly the same. You go back, and as I'm putting these episodes together, I'm realizing the problems are exactly the same. It's the people that are different. We have rage, but too little conviction. We have protest, but where are the principles? We have all kinds of information, but where is the wisdom? We've forgotten what they remembered. That ideas, not anger, ideas, sustain liberty. This thing didn't happen. The revolution didn't succeed because everybody agreed. It succeeded because enough people believed. And maybe that's the lesson for us now. We don't. We don't need to get everybody on board. We don't. Just. Just enough. Just enough people to stand for truth. Enough people that will agree with just that one principle. All men are created equal, endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights. And nobody can take them away. Nobody can change them. I don't care if you're a Republican or a Democrat. It's always wrong to try to take away those rights. If we could just get that and enough people to pass it on. That's enough for the center to hold again. That should be our work. That's going to be my work for the rest of my life. I love the headline that came out last week. It said, glenn Beck is hoarding artifacts in mountain vaults. Yeah, that's what I'm doing. I'm hoarding them. How can you hoard artifacts that you're telling you're going to be sharing with the world? You know, I'm lending, along with David Barton and Mercury One, the American Journey Experience Library. We're sharing these artifacts and we're lending them to Prageru because Prageru is doing something on the road and sharing American history all next year. And I don't care who gets the credit. Nobody cares who gets the credit. Prageru is doing it. Great. Put it out on the road. What do you need? And we are sharing some amazing artifacts, and they're going to be on the road, and they're probably going to come to a town near you and you should see them. Because the American story is being told. And once we connect, reconnect with the American story, once we truly understand it, not memorize the dates and the wars and the, you know, the battles and this guy's name and when he died then. But the point of it all, when we understand the point of it all, America's going to fix itself so quickly, it'll be astonishing. Astonishing. All right. More in just a second. There are moments in history when evil, you know, doesn't even try to hide. And we're in one of those moments right now. You can see it in the news. Jewish students targeted on campus, synagogues defaced, families threatened simply because they are who they are. I read a headline today about a Jewish tourist in New York who was beaten so badly I think he has brain bleed. I think I read it just happened on the streets. New York. It was like, is this, like, I don't know, Europe, 1935. What is happening? The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, the ifcj, is standing in that gap to make sure we don't go there again. And they're providing shelter for families who are in danger, food for the hungry, hope for survivors of persecution that have nowhere else to turn. And when a crisis erupts, whether it's war or terror or hate, they're already there on the ground meeting needs before the rest of the world even notices. Stu, did you see that? We're now talking about leading the peacekeepers in Gaza. I'M not for that. Are you for that?
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Stu
No. I thought it was supposed to be Arab partner nations that were doing that.
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Glenn Beck
Uh huh. Yeah. It's apparently us in like Egypt. No, I'm not for that. I didn't. Nuh, hold on. Nope. I do not want any of our troops down on the ground in Gaza. None of them. I. I'm not. We're paying to rebuild Gaza. No, no. If that's the plan, you've lost me. I want it done by private individuals. I want it done by other countries, not by us. But I do want to be there for people. I do want to help them. So if we want our government to do less, then we have to do more. Join IFCJ and their effort. Will you? 888-488-IFCJ 888-488IFCJ or go to ifcj.org Every dollar helps. But don't wait. Time is of the essence and that can be the difference. Visit IFCJ.org right now or call 888-488 IFC. You know schools won't do it for you. This is Glenn Beck. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. Elle. It's election day all over the country, but especially in New York where mom Donnie is the guy.
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Stu
Yay.
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Glenn Beck
Tomorrow, big celebration. Free grocery stores are finally coming to New York.
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Stu
Yes, I've always wondered. Usually you have to get free groceries in New York. You have to steal stuff like most of the.
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Glenn Beck
Well, it'll still be that. Still be that.
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Stu
You can still do that. But you can now steal from the state, which is nice. Look, he's the overwhelming favorite. Probably around the prediction markets say it's about a 90% chance. If you really want some hope, you can look at one poll that came out that has it pretty close. There's legitimately almost every poll has it in a double digit situation. Again, this is assuming your hope is one of the worst people humanity has ever produced. Andrew Cuomo. He's only a few points behind in one singular poll. I would not hold out much hope though, for that one. It does seem like Mamdani is going to dominate tonight. At least that would be the most likely outcome, though it looked like he was going to lose the primary. So if you have hope for Cuomo, I suppose there's some there. I would say it's limited though. I would not be, I would not bet my life on it, that's for sure. Not to mention like, you know, does this guy really, should he be rewarded? You know, that's a question that you really have to ask and wonder.
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Glenn Beck
If.
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Stu
It'S a good thing that civilization in and of itself rewards either one of these two fellows. I would say, I would argue no.
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Glenn Beck
Mamdani is going to win, and he's going to win because people are tired of the same old, same old. And that's why the Republicans have got to. I mean, they already did with Donald Trump. But, you know, looking to 2028, you've got to look at a different role. I mean, you've got to look at somebody who is dynamic, who is young, who has constitutionally based ideas that can remold the future. Not the same old politician. I mean, they are so done with the old politicians. I mean, I've been done with them before they were old, but now they're all old. And the Chuck Schumers of the world, that's, that's just. I mean, it looks like a time capsule, doesn't it? And I think that's why Mamdani is, is winning, because he doesn't look like he belongs in a time. In a time tunnel or a time capsule. You know, and it's. It's fascinating to me how the facts don't seem to really even matter what he's actually for and what he's actually doing. I don't think people even really know or care.
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Stu
I think it's vibes. There's a lot of it that's vibes. Did you happen to see the very unfunny Saturday Night Live sketch they did?
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Glenn Beck
No, I've missed that since about 1997. Yeah.
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Stu
Okay, so this is more recent than that. Yeah, it's about this election, so. Yeah, but it aired this weekend. And of course, it was the typical thing that SNL does, which is the criticism, the thing that was funny about Mamdani.
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Glenn Beck
What would it be?
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Stu
I mean, there's a million things you could point to, right, that would be funny about Mamdani. We've made many of the jokes. Their joke was the other candidates couldn't pronounce his name. That was what was supposed to be funny about Mamdani.
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Glenn Beck
Oh, my gosh. They hadn't learned anything.
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Stu
And he smiled a lot. Right? Like, and I will say is they.
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Glenn Beck
Want him as a guest next Saturday. That's what's going on. They want him as a guest to host next Saturday. That's what. And guarantee it. Special guest host. Mom, Donnie, or at least Pops on.
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Stu
As a, as a special guest would not be surprised at all. Like, the, the good old fashioned, you know, the crazy thing they do on snl, when the person who's being impersonated.
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Glenn Beck
Is in the middle of his impersonation and the real person walks up behind him and he comedy assumes and comedy ensues. They're not gonna run.
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Stu
They don't need to write a funny line because, of course, it's just funny in and of itself. And that's what we'll probably get next week.
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Glenn Beck
Hilarity is their middle name. It's gonna be interesting to see how the rest of the nation is going to pay for the pain of New York. Did you see what. What Governor Abbott just said in Texas, which I just love? He just said, we're gonna start a 20 tariff on anybody who's moving after election night. You're moving to Texas. A 20 tariff? If you're coming from New York City.
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Stu
I don't think you could do that.
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Glenn Beck
But still. No, I'm sure he can, but it's a great. It's a funny. I mean, and copy. Comedy ensues. But maybe, I mean, can we find a way to make that happen? I mean, I guess. I guess if you move tomorrow, you still do get it without the pain. So maybe 10% tariff. This is Glenn Beck. I want to talk to you about a product that I use every day. Every day. Chirp. I mean, if you've ever tried to stretch your way back out of pain and you know there's a satisfying pop that tells you something's just been released, that's. That is so good and that feels so good, and that is the right way. And that's what Chirp was built for. Smarter, safer, and a lot more effective. Chirp is the wheel that helps relieve back tension and stiffness by targeting all those muscles along your spine. You just simply sit there, roll back on it, and the pressure goes exactly where you need. Opening your chest, stretching your back, and giving you that deep, revealing. You feel so much better. Whether you sit all day, work out hard, or you just sleep funny, Chirp can help make you feel human again. And unlike other gadgets that end up in your closet, Chirp actually becomes part of your daily routine. Five minutes in the morning, five at night, and you'll wonder how you ever got along without it. Your back does a lot for you. Maybe it's time to return the favorite Chirp. Roll your way to relief. Go to go chirp.com beck go chirp.com beck use the promo code beck at checkout. 10% off site wide. That's promo code beck.
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Glenn Beck
Every side Stand your ground when times get dark Gotta face the dark and embrace the fire. The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program. This cannot. There's 8.4 million people that live in the New York City area. Nearly a million New Yorkers now say if Mamdani is elected today, they will leave New York. I mean, is that like a little Barbra Streisand? I mean, you know, I think, I think Robert Redford said that he would move too, and they never did. I think only Rosie McDonald's. Rosie, what's her name? And it might have been because we chased her out. I'm not really sure. But a million people. Maybe Governor Abbott was right in saying there should be a 20% tariff on anybody moving from New York. Today's consequences of this election are heavy. And Stephen Moore is here to tell us what those consequences are going to look like. He is the co founder of Unleashed Niche Prosperity, former Trump economic advisor, and he's here to talk about how New York is about to lose its most precious resource, their citizens. Stephen Moore joins me in 60 seconds. First, when you think about it, security isn't just about protecting your stuff. It's about protecting your peace of mind. Because once you've, once you've had that moment, the late night noise, the broken window, the what if that wakes you up at 2am you realize how fragile people peace can be. That's why I recommend Simplisafe. It's advanced home security that works its way, the way security should. There are no wires, no long contracts, no installation teams camped out in your living room. You set it up yourself. It really literally takes you 30 minutes and it just works. Every door, every window, Every room monitored 24 7. SimpliSafe's professional team and if there is an emergency, they're alerting police, fire or medical responders in seconds and, and that makes all the difference. Your alarm can go off. But if nobody calls the police in most cities, 911 doesn't respond because they just think that it's a false alarm. You can trust Simplisafe. It gives you something priceless, that confidence that your family and your home are safe no matter what. So visit simplisafe.com Beck Claim 50% off a new system today simplisafe.com Beck There is no safe like Simplisafe. Stephen Moore is with us now. Stephen, how much time do you have for me today?
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Stephen Moore
As much as you want. Glenn. Great to hear your voice. Great to be with you and I love to disagree with you on something you just said.
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Glenn Beck
Okay, all right, let's start there.
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Stephen Moore
You know, I do think, look, New York has lost two and a half million people on net of the last ten years to other states to almost two and a half million people, which is what, four congressional seats right there. And so there is a mass. What's the big story in America, Glenn, right now? And people should go to our website, vote with your feet. And you can see, just click on any two states. You can click on New York and you can click on Texas and it'll show you the. Where the moving vans are going to and from and also how much money they're taking with them because we know the income of these people as well. So New York has lost two and a half million people if they've New York. And by the way, half of those people came from New York City. So if, if they elect a socialist and they raise the taxes again, New York City already has the highest taxes in the United States in North America. So if they raise them again on, quote, the rich, they're not going to be there any longer. And I'll make another prediction to you. Now look, are you in Texas? Where are you now?
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Glenn Beck
It's like a shell game. I never really know. I, I just moved last week. I, I left my business in Texas because I am never going to dissever myself from Texas, but I left my business in Texas, but I promised my wife about 400 years ago that someday we would live by the beach and so we moved to Florida. So I live in Florida business.
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Stephen Moore
You move from one no income tax state to another no income tax state.
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Glenn Beck
Yeah. Are you crazy? I'm not doing anything else. I would have, I would have, have, I would have dug a canal from the Atlantic all the way into Dallas if that was it. Forced me to move to a tax state.
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Stephen Moore
Yeah. So anyway, I'm in Dell, I'm in Dallas today. That's why you guys go for this I know person. But anyway, where are you in Florida?
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Glenn Beck
I'm not saying that on the air, but I will tell you that we're gonna have, we're gonna have dinner. Stephen, when you get back into Florida, we'll have dinner.
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Stephen Moore
Awesome. Okay, great. Well, anyway, so I know I lost my train of concentration, but I think.
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Glenn Beck
So we were talking. You were talking about the people that are moving in the tax base.
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Stephen Moore
Yeah. So basically that's why I believe, look, 1 million is probably a long shot, but I think you're going to see a Lot of wealth move out of New York. Now here's the thing, you probably are aware of this, but about two months ago, the Texas set up their own stock exchange. So we've had the New York stock exchange for 150 years. Now you've got the Texas Stock Exchange, which I believe isn't Dallas. I believe that if they raise these tax again, you'd Pay, you'd pay 17% income tax in New York City. Who's going to do that? By the way? That's on top of 40% federal tax. So people will move. And I'll give you one, one example. You know, Ken Griffin, he's the billionaire who created Citadel. And Guy, he's a free market guy and he, he was the single biggest charitable giving in the city of Chicago. He gave to the Art Institute, he gave to the homeless shelters, he gave to the, to the food kitchens and the museums and so on. I mean, he was by far the biggest donor to all of the charities. Well, finally they kept raising, raising, raising taxes in Chicago. And as you probably know, he moved out of Chicago and he moved to Palm Beach, Florida. And so then the interesting part of the story is it put a 50 million dollar hole in the Illinois budget. One person, oh my gosh. And, and all the, There's a funny story in the Chicago Cranes business that all of a sudden the surety is like, wait, why isn't he donating us to anymore? You know, why, why doesn't live there anymore? And so my point is you chase the, the evil rich out of your city, in your state, and you pay a high price for that. In terms of the. By the way, he took several thousand, you know, jobs with them. So when you, when you hear soap, the rich, you know, the rich aren't, you know, as the old saying goes, the rich aren't rich because they're stupid.
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Glenn Beck
Right. You know, let me, so let me ask you this, Stephen, because it used to be, it used to be that New York was, I mean, was the capital of the whole world because of the stock exchange. How real is the, the loss of the New York Stock Exchange is something like the Texas Stock Exchange. Is that something that really could actually happen?
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Stephen Moore
Yeah, it could happen. And look, the truth is that the New York Stock Exchange even today isn't anything like what it was, 60s, 70s, 80s. Just like I mentioned, I'm from Chicago. Remember the moving trading places and they're trading commodities on the Chicago, it doesn't really exist anymore because that's all done by computers, you know, and electronically. So the trading floors aren't the same as they were. So, you know, Wall street is just a shadow of it once what it once was. But what I'm saying is that, you know, today in America, in Dallas, Texas, there are more financial services jobs than there are in New York City. Oh my gosh, that's amazing.
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Glenn Beck
Oh my gosh.
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Stephen Moore
I mean, it's happening.
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Glenn Beck
So how long, how much more, Stephen? How much more can New York take before it's no longer the financial capital? How much more? How many people have to move? What has to happen for it to really understand, wow, we made a huge mistake here.
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Stephen Moore
You'd think they'd have gotten that message already. I mean, one of the things you lived, you know, when you first did your Fox show back many, many years ago, you were in, you know, New York. And so you, you're familiar with New York. And then when was that? In the 90s. And when were you in?
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Glenn Beck
In the 2000, 2000, mid 2000, you know, 2005, 2010.
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Stephen Moore
Yeah, because I remember when Rudy, this is an important point because I know you have a lot of listeners all over the country in New York and New Jersey, in the New York area. So when Rudy Giuliani was elected mayor, New York was a mess. And you could see every week, because I was working at the Wall Street Journal at the time, every week you could see the improvement in the city. He got rid of the crime, he got rid of the graffiti, he got rid of the drug dealers, he got rid of, he lowered the taxes. It wasn't complicated, Glenn. I mean, this wasn't rocket surgery, as my kid would say. This was obvious stuff. And New York was New York again. And it was booming. And what's so sad about this election that's happening today is if Madame wins, they will reverse every single thing that Rudy, Jed, and they will be back in the ditch. How stupid would people be to vote for that? And part of the problem, Glenn, quite frankly, something you and I have talked about the years is our education system. You have these 24 year olds who are voting, they think socialism works.
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Glenn Beck
Where?
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Stephen Moore
Show me where.
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Glenn Beck
So what happens if he is elected? I mean, what does it mean to people who have never gone to New York City? Is, is the loss of New York City to Imam Donnie, is that going to affect everybody else's life?
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Stephen Moore
That's a good question. I mean, you're there in Florida. Florida has gained. I really want people to go to this, this website, vote with your feet, because it's amazing. And so Florida under a great great, great governor Ron DeSantis and you had a great governor Rick Scott before him. Florida, are you ready? Florida has imported over a 10 year period, $1 trillion of income from people coming in from other states. $1 trillion. That's the biggest mass migration, you know, ever in the history of this country. And by the way, people are not just leaving New York. You know, what other big state they're leaving, going, leaving California.
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Glenn Beck
I think New York is moving to Florida and California is moving to, to Texas.
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Stephen Moore
Into Texas. Exactly. And so you're just bleeding these blue states. That's why I don't get it. And so the, the thing that worries me, I was thinking a lot about this the last couple of days because, you know, if, if these states vote wrongly, the only way that New York even survives fiscally is with another massive federal bailout. They're not going to have the tax base. How they, how are they going to pay their bills?
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Glenn Beck
They're not. They're not. And you know, that's, this is what I've said for a long time. You know, the Constitution's not a suicide pact. And California and New York are in Chicago are going to eventually need giant bailouts. And why should I pay for that? I didn't, I didn't live in those places. I didn't live there for a reason. Right, right. That's, that's taxation without representation. I don't want to bail them out. It was, it's their fault. They did this. I've always wanted to live in California. I never have because it was insane. I knew that it was not going to work. So why do I have to pay for it?
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Stephen Moore
Bingo. And incidentally, you're right. You can understand why people might leave New York for Florida. You know, you're in Florida. It's beautiful weather in Florida and it rains a lot and cloudy in New York. But how do you screw up California? I mean, California, California is probably one of the most idyllic places on the planet and people are leaving. This is the first time in 250 years people have been more people leaving California than going to California. That's never happened before.
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Glenn Beck
It's unbelievable. Yeah, unbelievable. Okay, can you spend some time with me?
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Stephen Moore
One other point about this? And yet the governor of California is right now the lead candidate to be, to run on the Democratic ticket for president. Gavin Newsom, the guy who was he going to run on? I'll do for America what I did for California.
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Glenn Beck
Yes. And so many people will buy into it. I mean, I just, I don't Know what's wrong? It's so frustrating because you try to apply logic and you're like, but none of this makes sense. None, none of what are you doing? I would love to be able to sit down and have a conversation with you, but. But none of this makes sense. All right, more with Stephen Moore here in just a second. First, let me tell you about. Give me about Patriot Mobile. There are a lot of things that you can't control in this country. The economy, the headlines, even what passes for common sense. But there is one thing you can control. Where your money goes. Every month when you pay your phone bill, that money doesn't just float out into space. It funds something. And with most major carriers that something usually includes causes that. But work against everything you believe in, everything you work hard against in every other thing in your life. You're paying for it every time you make a phone call or send a text. Patriot Mobile is the alternative company built to give you great service and a clear conscience. They use the same strong nationwide networks as the big guys. But your dollars also go to support values like free speech and religious freedom and the sanctity of life. And our first responders. No hidden agendas, just honest service that stands for something. You can't fix everything wrong with the world today, but you can. Start with your phone bill. Patriot Mobile they offer premium access to all three major US networks. You'll enjoy the same or better premium coverage as the major carriers. You just go to patriotmobile.com beck or call 972 Patriot. It's Patriot Mobile. Use the promo code BECK. Patriot mobile.com beck promo code BECK gets you a free month of service. Patriotmobile.com beck or Call 972 Patriot. Make the switch today. 10 seconds back to Stephen Moore. So Stephen, can we talk about the government shutdown? I did a monologue earlier today where you're starting to see and I don't want to get all technical. I explained it easily in the first hour. Go back and listen to it if you want to understand it. But how the, the repo market is exploding every night now because the treasury is holding all these dollars and that's going to start choking us here soon. How much longer can we stay closed before we start to do some real damage?
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Stephen Moore
Well that's a good question. I mean this has been a month and I'm probably to about bad person to ask this question because I didn't think this shutdown would last more than a few days. I thought they'd come to their realize how stupid This I know. And here we are. It's not day two. It's day 32 or 33. Whatever it is, it is important.
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Glenn Beck
But we're in a place to where we're, we're shutting things that you can't just, you can't just take a person off of drugs. You know what I mean? You've got to do this logically and slowly. And we're just going cold turkey with cash, and that's not good for the economy. So.
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Stephen Moore
Yeah, and I mean, look, I mentioned I'm in Dallas today. I do a lot of traveling and the, you know, the Dallas Fort Worth Airport, there are a lot of flight cancellations that's happening around the country that's causing havoc, mayhem, by the way. This havoc and mayhem and all the inconvenience. And it's more than inconvenience now. This is what Chuckie Schumer wants. I mean, my God, he wouldn't even vote to make, to pay the soldiers, for God's sake. I mean, this guy's crazy. This doesn't have anything to do with our military. You know, he's imperiling our national security to score political points. I mean, I'm sorry, I think that's despicable.
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Glenn Beck
So what are the permanent things? How long before we can't turn this back? I mean, without real pain?
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Stephen Moore
Well, look, I don't want to be too dire. It caused a lot of inconvenience. It does cause turmoil. But. But I've lived through these. I've probably lived through 20 of these government shutdowns over the last 35 years. It's a stupid way to resolve things. But I will say this. It's very important that Republicans not cave in here. So let me just give you a couple numbers here. There's $1.5 trillion of quote, cuts, unquote. As you know, a cut is just less than the increase they want, right? 1.5 trillion. That's out over 10 years. Do you know how much the government's supposed to spend over the next 10 years? 80 trillion. So do the math. There is a 2 cents out of every dollar quote, cut, cut. Again, it's just the cut from the increase that they want. And Democrats saying, no, you know, people are going to starve to death. People are going to. We're going to kill people. I was on the show the other day and this woman said, we will kill people if we pass the Republican budget.
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Glenn Beck
Well, they're Nazis.
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Stephen Moore
I mean, Republicans are not you with somebody like that. I mean, we're all going to die if we cut 2 cents out of the budget. You know, you've got a situation now where. Here's another one. You know, Glenn, that there are 42 million. 42 million Americans today on food stamps. That's a disgrace. We're the richest country in the world, for God's sakes. We've got 42 million people who need the government and the taxpayer to pay to put meals on their table. I mean, I'm sorry, I think that's outrageous. Most of them are sitting around watching TV or playing computer games and getting free food, free shelter, free this, free that. I mean, my God, we're gonna run out of people paying the taxes.
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Glenn Beck
People are saying that's because Trump has just destroyed this economy.
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Stephen Moore
I like where we. I mean, look, I think things. We've got record high stock market. We got gas. Yeah. Gas is less than $3 a gallon. We've got, you know, the economy over the last six months has grown by 4%. I mean, I think Trump has had a very good path. I'm not a big fan of this tariffs, as you know. I'm more of a free trade guy.
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Glenn Beck
I know.
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Stephen Moore
But this is. This guy is pro business. We're the only country in the world that's growing right now. Japan isn't growing. China is in a recession. Europe is flatlined. So, look, I'm proud of what we're doing. And Trump is pro business. He's probably America. And so I feel like things are going well for the country. But, you know, 42 million people, there's 7 million jobs out there. Why don't these people get a job?
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Glenn Beck
I will tell you that. You know, when you, if you looked during the Biden administration, I mean, it was cloud and Piven, you know, you know, this, we talked about it for years. This is all cloud and piven strategy. And during the Obama. I'm sorry, during the Biden administration, that's when, what was it, an extra 10 million got onto the dole? Yep, something like that. I mean.
- [105:07]
Stephen Moore
And never left. And never left. Most of them.
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Glenn Beck
And never left. Never left. I mean, you know why?
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Stephen Moore
Example on food stamps. And I call them food stamps. I don't call them snap, because the food stamps program, remember on Obama Youth, and I talked to us a long time ago, they were telling people to sign up for food stamps because it. It's a stimulus to your local economy. That's what they said.
- [105:30]
Glenn Beck
Yep. Yep.
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Stephen Moore
Is everything upside down in America? I'm sorry. How can people actually believe that? So you can. You can get a handout from the government and still feel good about yourself in the morning because you're helping your local community.
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Glenn Beck
I want to ask you about the subprime loans. The subprime and super prime loans are on the rise. The last time I read something like that was like 2007 and it did not turn out well. Can you explain what that means? I'm going to come back here in just a second. I need to take a break. We'll come back more with Stephen Moore. By the way, if you're living in New York, choose wisely. Choose wisely. If you're in Virginia, choose wisely. I mean, I've never seen such stark differences in my life. And it amazes me that Virginia might actually elect somebody and a governor that are kind of okay with you going. Yeah, I don't mind saying, you know, kill his children, let the children die in mom's arms because I believe politically different things. Glenn, Becky, it's absolutely crazy. All right. Let me tell you about real estate Agents I trust. Several years ago, Tanya and I tried to sell our house and it was a disaster. Offers would come in, fall apart. Weeks turned into months. Eventually we just gave up. And we thought, how hard can this be? Pretty hard apparently. Now fast forward to this year. We made a decision to move to Florida, which meant it was time to try again. But this time we didn't have a real estate agent in my area in the Dallas area at the time. And I said let's can we find somebody, please, that can get the job done? And so we did our homework and we found Brad Cook. It was incredible. He took charge from day one, got the pricing right, the photos right, strategy right. I told him back in August, I think it was we got to close by November 1st. That'll just be a nightmare. I don't want to close before after November 1st. We closed on October 31st. That is the kind of follow through and professionalism that you're going to get. Look, this is my company and I mean I work with my own agents. I believe this realestate agents I trust.com was built to take the guesswork out of finding somebody like that. Agents who share your values, understand your area, the area you're moving to and actually deliver on the promises they make to you. Real estate agents I trust.com. that's real estate agents I trust.com find.
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- [108:20]
Glenn Beck
We have Stephen Moore. He is the co Founder of Unleash Prosperity, former Trump economic adviser and a good friend of the show for many, many years. I wanted to ask you, Stephen, about subprime and super prime mortgages. It looks like they're on the rise again. And last time I saw this was right before 2008, and it didn't end well. Tell me about these. What, what should we be concerned about or not concerned about?
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Stephen Moore
Well, I think there's no question that there is a housing shortage in the United States. And so the demand for housing is exceeding the number of housing houses that are coming on the market. And that has driven up housing prices year after year after year. So housing is really, really expensive. We would love to buy a place in Florida. We can't afford it right now. I mean, it's just the prices are so high. So what's happening is for people to have a mortgage, they don't necessarily have the down payment. You know, they don't have necessarily the income to pay the mortgage payments. So that's why they're getting these subprime loans. And those loans are people oftentimes with low credit scores and so on. And you are correct. Now, look, I'm not saying that we're on the brink of a 2008 collapse of the economy. I don't, I do not believe we are. But I do believe that the banks are making riskier and riskier mortgage loans. And in large part, housing is so expensive. Now, why.
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Glenn Beck
Is it. But wasn't this shortage of housing actually caused by the 2008 crash? Crash because everybody got out because there was a glut and so then nobody wanted to build houses. And now we're paying for that mistake.
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Stephen Moore
That is true. And so you go through these cycles. I've got to tell you, though, that I'm on the board of a company called Lightspeed and we build houses. Glenn, we're home builder. We build houses with robots. With robots. And we will, when this comes online, probably in the next couple of years, we will be able to build houses 40% faster, 40% cheaper, with 40% less man hours. So this revolution that's going on in robotics is going to drive prices down, not up.
- [110:45]
Glenn Beck
So. Okay, so help me solve this one. That's fantastic. Except who's going to be able to afford that house because you don't have a job building that house?
- [110:58]
Stephen Moore
Well, because what's going to happen is productivity. You know, that's, you know, we lived through this back, you know, 100 years ago when 30 out of 100Americans worked on the farm and now it's two out of Americans do. So, you know, people will move on to other kinds of jobs. It's scary, no question about it. I mean, in 10 years we have 3 million truck drivers in this country and 10, 15 years, there will be not many at all. So those will all be automated so that, you know. Look, I want to make sure your listeners are aware of this. This robotics artificial intelligence revolution is coming a lot faster than people think. I was in LA about a month ago and one third of the Uber cars are driverless already.
- [111:38]
Glenn Beck
I know, I know, Stephen. I've been saying this for years and nobody believed me. I said, By 2030, all this is going to be happening and we might even have AGI by 2030. And everybody said I was crazy. This is, you know, 2005, 2015, 2020. I mean, I've said it for years and oh no, that's crazy. It's never going to happen. Here it is, here it is. And, and, and we are losing the, the, the white collar workers first.
- [112:11]
Stephen Moore
Well, people, people should A, be prepared for it and B, what this means as we move into this, you know, hyper digital age, it's going to be like the Internet age, except even faster and more dramat. Look, it's productivity enhancing. It means everybody can live in a castle. It'll, it'll, it'll change the world an amazing way. But when I was a kid. Do you ever watch that cartoon show the Jetsons? Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, you're have. In 25 years we're gonna have flying cars.
- [112:44]
Glenn Beck
I'm just, I wanted to leave enough space there so we could edit it out so we could play it because people have been saying that for over, over 100 years and it's never come true.
- [112:51]
Stephen Moore
Okay, I'll make, I don't know if I can last -25 years. But I think. But the point people should not be afraid. They should be prepared. I mean, it's going to be an amazing thing.
- [113:04]
Glenn Beck
So how do you prepare for that? How does the average person prepare for that, Stephen?
- [113:08]
Stephen Moore
Okay, I'm going to tell you one the most important thing. We better start fixing our damn schools. We better make sure kids can read. Read and write and do math. Because you know what? There's not a lot of need for people who are, you know, stupid. Right? You know, and the biggest disgrace in America today. We talked about the debt. I think an even bigger disgrace is we've got kids, schools that are not. We've got, we've got 15 schools in Chicago that not one single child can read or write or do math at grade level proficiency. Why do we even keep those schools open, for God's sake? Yeah, it's outrageous.
- [113:43]
Glenn Beck
Yeah. I have to tell you, we saw a stat and Stu and I checked it over and over again. We couldn't believe it was true. What was it, Stu? 56% of the American population cannot read above a sixth grade level.
- [113:54]
Stephen Moore
It's incredible. And that is the problem of the teachers unions in the education bureaucracy. And by the way, it's not like we haven't spent more money on it. We spent more and more and more money on our education system every year and we get cross crappy results.
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Stu
Hopefully school choice is going to address that as well. Stephen, that's been a huge development over the past few years. Are you hopeful in that world?
- [114:15]
Stephen Moore
Yes, very, very. But you know what, the left is fighting back against that because, you know, for them, the schools aren't about the kids, they're about the unions.
- [114:25]
Glenn Beck
Yes, it's bad for the union.
- [114:27]
Stu
Stephen, I was thinking of you and a book you wrote, which I had remembered was a few years ago in my head, but it was actually 11 years ago, kind of based on the wealth of nations and you had it about the wealth of states and you highlighted taxes, energy, worker freedom, unions as the reason why certain states perform better. Has that held true and is it still true today?
- [114:54]
Stephen Moore
More so than ever before. So the biggest story in America, I'll say it again, again, is that the red states like Florida and Texas and Utah and Tennessee are bleeding the blue states dry. And if the blue states don't change, they will die. The blue state, you know, do you know this statistic, for the first time in 250 years, the history of our country, the Northeast is no longer the dominant economic region. Did you know that?
- [115:21]
Glenn Beck
I didn't know that.
- [115:22]
Stephen Moore
Yeah. New York, you know, think about the Northeast. It was New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore, you know, Washington, dc. That whole corridor was the financial and economic and industrial capital of the country. It is no longer the Northeast. You know what region produces the most GDP now?
- [115:42]
Glenn Beck
Texas.
- [115:43]
Stephen Moore
South. Yep. Texas, Florida, the Carolinas, you know, Tennessee. I mean, I was in Knoxville. Ever been to Knoxville, Tennessee? Oh, yeah, yeah. It's the fastest growing middle sized city in the United States. States. There's no income tax.
- [116:02]
Glenn Beck
Yeah, yeah. Tennessee is a great state.
- [116:05]
Stephen Moore
So complicated.
- [116:07]
Glenn Beck
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But you know, the left is taking over Nashville, so they'll eventually destroy the rest of Tennessee. Go Ahead.
- [116:17]
Stephen Moore
You know, Glenn, this is why there's only one way out for the blue states. I'm going to say it again, I guarantee you. I'll bet you 10 to 11 odds, Glenn, that when we're talking three or four years from now, the big issue will be will the red states bail out the blue states.
- [116:35]
Glenn Beck
I think it's going to happen faster than that. But the answer for me, you don't have to, have to check. No. Let me ask you this. The thing I'm really concerned about is energy. And I've talked to the President about it and he said we're going to cut all the regulation, we're going to get these power plants up. I am very concerned. This is like something that could be, could cost the Republicans the election in 2028. The demand on power that is coming and the energy prices that are already sky high, especially in these places where they didn't build power plants, they were shutting them down. Are we moving at a fast enough pace? Because I'm just not seeing it.
- [117:17]
Stephen Moore
First of all, you're right. The big issue we're going to in the next 15 years, we will triple our energy demand, electric power demands. Meanwhile, what has that. What the Democrats have been doing for the last 20 years. Oh, don't use oil, don't use gas, you don't use coal, don't use nuclear power. Do you? Does anyone except Al Gore and this whole world actually think we can run a $30 trillion economy on windmills? I mean, how stupid is that really? I mean, these guys are crazy. If you want to decapitate the American economy, take away our energy supply, that's what they did. That's what they did under Biden. But I got to tell you, Trump is all in. We are producing more oil and gas today in the United States than any time in American history. We need to build 100 nuclear power plants in this country. We can do it. We just need the political world. How fast, by the way?
- [118:05]
Glenn Beck
How fast?
- [118:07]
Stephen Moore
No greenhouse gas emissions. Why are they power?
- [118:11]
Glenn Beck
I know. Well, they're saying they were, they were dangerous. But right now, the new nuclear power plants, the smaller ones they have, there's no China syndrome. I mean they are completely self, self contained and completely safe. I mean, it's the safest energy ever invented by man. You know, in 1950s and 60s it was like that. But now this is uber safe and very small.
- [118:38]
Stephen Moore
Well, one of the most important thing that's happened to the quote, climate change movement is the declaration that Bill Gates, the third richest man on the planet, who is crazy, totally funded that. And he basically said, you know what? Our doomsday scenario was completely wrong. And he finally realized the way to deal with this is economic progress and technology because, you know, we can't teach our kids, we can't balance our budget, we can't keep the streets safe, but we're going to change the temperature of the planet. Huh?
- [119:11]
Glenn Beck
You really think he had a change of heart? I think he just. I think he was hoping he would have a Democrat in there and the new world government would be, you know, World Economic Forum. But when that didn't pan out, he had to change because he's got to have the energy for his own, his own server.
- [119:27]
Stephen Moore
Maybe. That may be, but if you read a statement, it's pretty amazing. I mean, it sounds like I did wrote it, you know, I mean, that's pretty.
- [119:34]
Glenn Beck
I know. And it's curled my hair. I was so angry after I read it because he's not stupid.
- [119:42]
Stephen Moore
I just hope, you know, you're a better man. $foundation. If he could spend that money on actually helping people rather than taking away their energy, that could do a world of good.
- [119:53]
Glenn Beck
Well, he won't, but that's a different story. Steven, thank you so much as always. Great to talk to you, my friend. We'll see you again even more. You bet. Bye. Bye. All right, let me tell you about Z Factor. Everybody talks about hustle, how to push harder, work longer, how to do more with your day. But. But almost nobody talks about the thing that makes all of that really possible. You know, real beautiful restful sleep. That's what Z Factor is designed to help you get. Man, I wish I could be more like Donald Trump and sleep three hours a day, don't you? I mean, can you imagine if all the things you could get done. Well, look at him. Look at all the stuff he can get done because he sleeps three hours a day. Z Factor is a natural sleep supplement from the makers of Relief Factor. The same people have helped millions find relief from pain and now helping you find rest from the chaos of modern life. It's not a drug, not a knock you out pill. It's a gentle formula that helps your body wind down and wind down the way it was meant to. You fall asleep faster, stay asleep longer, and wake up feeling clear and recharged. Not just groggy, not sluggish. Because when you rest, well, everything else works better. Your body heals, your mind sharpens, your temper softens. And the world just seems, I don't know, a little Happier and more manageable. That's the power of sleep done right. Z Factor from the makers of Relief Factor. Rest like you mean it first time Z Factor buyer is going to enjoy 46% savings. It's $19.95 for a 30 day supply. So visit relieffactor.com or call 800 for relief. That's 800, the number four relief. A wise man once said, trust in God and always keep watch on the gate. I don't know about you, but that sounds sounds like a solid plan to me. This is Glenn Beck. Welcome to it. It's election.
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Stu
It is.
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Glenn Beck
Hello, Stu.
- [121:53]
Stu
Hi, Glenn. Maybe the most interesting race because there's a lot of interesting races. Like you know, certainly New York City's interesting. But it does seem like there's a conclusion here that we're all kind of driving into the brick wall of that conclusion at 500 miles an hour.
- [122:08]
Glenn Beck
Yes, yes.
- [122:10]
Stu
One of the two interesting races. One is the J. Jones race which is actually maybe coin flip ish between Jones and Jason Mayor.
- [122:18]
Glenn Beck
Insane. Yeah. Virginia, you get what you deserve. Yeah, it's insane.
- [122:23]
Stu
And this is one of those situations where Maris was losing for most of this race. And then of course the texts come out, the scandal, the J. Jones thing. He wants his opponents kids to be dying in their arms and that seems to be taken negatively by some of the state and Miariz gets a lead. But Jones has looked better in recent polling and maybe considering we're at a point where it does seem the other races in the state are going to go toward the Democrats. Usually people don't split tickets that often. Are they getting used to the idea of Jones? So that's a possibility. He could win that race. The other one that's interesting and I have heard no media attention on whatsoever is the race for mayor in Jersey City, New Jersey. And the only reason this is interesting, Glenn, it's basically a three way race. Three candidates are tied for the lead or at least close to tied for the lead. Two of them you've never heard of. The third one is Jim McGreevy who is the former governor governor who went to jail.
- [123:32]
Glenn Beck
Wasn't he like he was a scarecrow? No, he left in disgrace because he was having sex with men in the park and ride. People were misunderstood. The ride part.
- [123:44]
Stu
That's right. He read the sign and it said park and ride.
- [123:47]
Glenn Beck
Park and ride. I'm just take a ride.
- [123:49]
Stu
He was scammed out of his gubernatorial reign because of that scandal. Yes. When he came out, can you imagine.
- [123:56]
Glenn Beck
You, I mean really, he's leading, by the way. There is no shame. There is no shame. That whole part of the country. We should just saw it off and just make it its own island. Can we put a moat from New Jersey over to.
- [124:16]
Stu
You're a big moat builder today. This is the second.
- [124:18]
Glenn Beck
Maybe we could go to. We go to West Virginia.
- [124:21]
Stu
Okay.
- [124:22]
Glenn Beck
Right. And I think that's enough. We can always expand the moat. But a moat on New England. Just a moat.
- [124:32]
Stu
Just a moat.
- [124:34]
Glenn Beck
And we need. And we need a billy goat underneath the bridge. Three questions. I've got three questions for you. And we make them impossible.
- [124:46]
Stu
Do you see any hope in New Jersey for the governor?
- [124:53]
Glenn Beck
No, I generally. Again, did. Did you hear my moat things? No, I'm pretty. I pretty much don't have any hope for anybody in New Jersey. No, no, there's a chance, and I think that would be amazing. What's the latest poll average?
- [125:07]
Stu
Is the Republican down by three points?
- [125:11]
Glenn Beck
That's pretty close. Still within the margin of error. Still within the margin of error. I'm. I'm. I mean, I am hopeful. Not really hopeful because I've lived, you know, in America for a few years, so I know don't get your hopes up on that one, but it would be great if that happened. No moat. New Jersey do that. No moat. Glenn, Becky.