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The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program. Yeah. With Pat and Stu for Glenn this week. 88727 Beck. Well, there's been a turn of events in the charges against James. Come and Letitia. James. We'll get into that coming up in one minute.
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So federal judge Cameron McGowan Curry dismissed the charges against ex FBI Director James Comey and New York Attorney General Letitia James yesterday. So the President's not very happy about that. Dismissed the case, which was brought by President Trump's handpicked prosecutor in Northern Virginia, Lindsey Halligan, on the basis that Halligan is not lawfully serving as the interim United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia. So the White House is not happy. I guess they're going to appeal. And, and who knows, who knows where we go from here, which is the way that. That's clear. I, I don't know. I don't know.
Glenn Beck
It's a, you know, it's, it's an interesting thing. I think it's sort of a feature, some would. A feature, someone argue a bug of the Trump administration. If you think back to traditional Republicans that have been in office before, there's a complaint by many in the conservative movement, or MAGA movement, or whatever you want to call it these days, is they are too buttoned up on traditions and process and rules and all these things that exist sometimes for seemingly dumb reasons. Right.
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Glenn Beck
Oh, I would never do that. No, you can't do that. And one of the things I think that got Trump the nomination in 2016 and a victory again in 2024 was a lot of people saying, stop with that. Right? Like, stop Constantly, every time we have a victory, stop grabbing it out of the grabbing, defeat out of the jaws of victory for no real reason. The left doesn't do that. We shouldn't do that either. And so it's become. And this is a boring word to lead a show with, but it's a process question, right? It's about process. And one of the. It's simultaneously, I think, with the Trump administration, one of the reasons why people voted for Donald Trump is because he wasn't obsessed and got bogged down with every bit of process and tradition and unspoken, unwritten rules and all of that. He was willing to kind of just blow through a lot of that stuff to get stuff done. And people love that about him. But it's a blessing and a curse because not every one of these things is an unwritten rule. Some of them are written rules, you know, and here, you know, he's in a bit of a gray area. We don't know exactly how this is going to work out, as you point out. We don't. I mean, the courts are going to rule on it. But, you know, he had a guy who was in this office in a temporary way, and he didn't like what he was doing. It was coming up to the deadline to file these charges against these people. They don't necessarily admit that this was the reason, but it was, in my opinion, that they wanted to get these charges in before the deadline. So this guy wasn't gonna bring them. The people, the career officials inside this office said they didn't have a case. So they were like, we need to get someone who's gonna bring this case. We think there is a case. So they brought in Lindsey Halligan, who had never prosecuted a case before in her life at any level. Yeah, you know, I mean, that's what they did. But that is not even the issue. It doesn't even seem like she. The reason why this was tossed out was not because she made some big mistake. Because what they're saying is you can't layer a temporary role on top of a temporary role. The way this is supposed to work is there has to be advice and consent from the Senate, and they did not get that with not only Halligan, but also the previous guy who was in there. They were like, well, we didn't get that yet. We need to get advice and consent eventually. But if they don't get that, they can just put a temporary person in the role. What they can't do is put a temporary person in the role, fire them and put another Temporary person in the role and just keep cycling through that until they get what they want. That's at least what the court is saying at this point. Now, whether that will be overturned by higher courts, we don't know yet. They're going to appeal this. It's going to go up the chain. But a lot of this stuff, I'd argue the same thing happened with tariffs, is that they want to get something done. And I think Trump is a guy that comes to his people and says, look, this is what I want to do. Get it done, find a way. And sometimes this is not Trump's doing. I don't think. I don't think Trump was like, I must have these tariffs through iepa, this emergency rule. I don't think that's what he said. I think he said, get them done. I'm doing them. This is how we're gonna do it. You go out there, you find the path and find it. Make it legal, make it constitutional. I don't think he's saying, oh, gosh, break the rules. I think he's saying, this is what I want to do. Find the correct path to do that. I'm a guy that gets things done. This is how he ran his real estate empire. Get it done, do it in the rules, but get it done. And so his people, I don't know how they're doing this stuff. Some of this stuff, to me, sounds completely buttoned up. Some of it sounds like couldn't really find what they. What, you know, what they wanted. It feels like they're just going to, like, chatgpt and saying whatever. The first thing they come up with is. Honestly, I don't know. The IEPA justification for tariffs falls into that category for me. We'll see what the courts say. And the Supreme Court is going to be ruling on this soon. But, you know, so it's a law that doesn't even mention the word tariffs. So I don't think it justifies that, but they do that, and then they get caught up in this process battle, which is somewhat distracting from what Trump actually wants to do. And sometimes, as a blessing and a curse, some of this stuff has really helped. Some of it has pushed stuff through that's important. And sometimes we get caught up in court battles that actually derail the goal of the Trump administration in the first place. At least that's how I see it. Is that kind of your view?
Pat
Yeah, I think so. It's just that, you know, the courts have been so intrusive into everything Trump has tried to do. Yes. This is like another one where it's just like, okay, can you just let the executive branch do something? And they don't. I mean, they're into everything. How many injunctions has he had? I think it's 44, 45 or something in nine months. It's unbelievable when in eight years under Obama was something like 12, I don't know. But it's amazing how he has been stymied at every turn.
Glenn Beck
And I can understand their frustration. And I think a lot of times it's legitimate. Right. Obviously, I think the courts have been kind of crazy against Donald Trump. That's not exactly a breaking news segment. I think that if he. It's an argument that I bet they're having behind closed doors often, which is, we have two ways of going here. We can try to be so buttoned up that we never get challenged in court, but we know what's gonna happen. Of course we're gonna get challenged in court. And of course these courts are gonna come after Donald Trump because they don't like what he does. So instead of worrying about all that up front, let's just roll the dice, and here's a path. Let's go down that path and see what the courts say. If they say no, we'll go a different path.
Pat
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
I mean, again, it's not healthy. It's not a healthy way to. To be running a justice system. Right. Like, it should not be constantly, okay, the default judgment is against Donald Trump. So let's make his life as difficult as possible, and let's see if he can navigate a way through all this. Like, that's. That shouldn't be.
Pat
No, it shouldn't be the way it works. It shouldn't. And the other part that's just agonizing is that it's given James Comey a victory here, and so we got to put up with this.
Glenn Beck
Why would you. Why would you play this? You don't need to play it. You could just. We could skip it.
Pat
We could, I suppose now, but about.
Glenn Beck
The appointment of the Attorney General on that situation, I did think that that was going to be an issue, and I did think from the very beginning that Comey was going to have a valid legal argument. And what's interesting about the decision is it doesn't go to whether or not crimes are actually committed. It just goes to the way in which the prosecutor was appointed. So I'm not surprised, legally, when it comes to. To that issue. Okay.
Pat
That's not exactly what I thought it was going to be. I thought it was James Comey, but this is them explaining what you kind of just explained. But he comes out and talks about, you know, how he's been so wronged and this is a victory for democracy and all that kind of stuff. And it's just agonizing. Agonizing that he's. He's got this little win for now.
Glenn Beck
Because he's so smug.
Pat
Oh, he really is wormy.
Glenn Beck
Yeah. Let me ask you this, Pat. If I had to give you a list of the people Donald Trump despises the most, would you put James Comey at the top of it?
Pat
It'd be pretty close.
Glenn Beck
He'd be up there. He's a top five guy.
Pat
Oh, for sure.
Glenn Beck
I think so. I think he's up there.
Pat
Top five.
Glenn Beck
I think he's top five. Who else would you put on that list in a top five situation? Mike Pence, probably. Probably Mike Pence would be up there.
Pat
Thomas Massie.
Glenn Beck
Lately it does seem like Thomas Massey's up there always.
Pat
He also called Rand Paul, like a wacko lunatic or something the other day.
Glenn Beck
Like, I feel like. And let, let me, let me push back on your top five list a little bit here, Pat.
Pat
Yes.
Glenn Beck
Because this is an important distinction. It's an important list. As you know, it is an important revered list of who does Donald Trump hate the most? And unfortunately, the guy who's off this week, who probably a former member of that list, Glenn Beck. Not here to chime in on this, but I think Massie and Paul are interesting because at times he's okay with them. I think he should be.
Pat
They're great.
Glenn Beck
First of all, I agree. I like both Massie and Rand Paul. The reason why they disagree with Donald Trump on these things occasionally is because they are ideological libertarian types. I tend to like, they care about our debt. They care about our debt. They care about constitutional rules that a lot of times even conservatives aren't that focused on right now. You could say they're right or wrong on that, but they're not coming after Donald Trump because they hate Donald Trump. That is like, I think you can really make an argument that James Comey, maybe this wasn't always true, but certainly is true now, just can't stand Donald Trump and would do anything he can to destroy the guy. And I think, and I don't think that's true with. I don't think that's true certainly with Mike Pence throughout his life. I mean, he was very, very loyal to Donald Trump up in the middle.
Pat
It was at the end, the very.
Glenn Beck
End, where they got in this a little bit of a scuffle politically, but I think oftentimes Massie and Baran Paul vote with Donald Trump, and in those moments he has, he's whatever. They're more of, like, irritants. Like, shut up. Stop getting in my way. I think that's how they think he thinks of them, but I don't think he despises those guys, even though he trashes them online sometimes. I think Comey.
Pat
Comey's one of those he, like, could not hate more.
Glenn Beck
John Bolton.
Pat
Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely.
Glenn Beck
Bolton falls into this category. Yes. I don't know, Barr. Maybe.
Pat
Maybe.
Glenn Beck
Maybe is in that category. Like, it's more like personal. You know, I think his disagreements with Rand Paul are, like, ideological. Like, he gets annoyed because he's not doing a specific thing that he wants at that point where I think, think with James Comey, it is personal.
Pat
Yeah. And here he is gloating. Here's great.
James Comey
I'm grateful that the court ended the case against me, which was a prosecution.
Glenn Beck
It's not over.
James Comey
Based on malevolence and incompetence and a reflection of what the Department of Justice has become under Donald Trump, which is heartbreaking.
Pat
This is amazing.
James Comey
But I was also inspired by the example of the career people who refused to be part of this travesty.
Pat
Okay.
James Comey
It cost some of them their jobs, which is painful, but it preserved their integrity, which is beyond price.
Pat
And it helped you.
James Comey
And I know they will serve again.
Glenn Beck
Stop it.
James Comey
Forward to represent me. I hope they serve as an example to more and more lawyers, especially some of the big firms, to participate in protecting our liberty, protecting the rule of law, and my family and friends, always with me, and luckily for me, includes some of those great lawyers.
Pat
Beautiful.
James Comey
This case mattered to me personally, obviously. But it matters most because a message has to be said. Of course, the President of the United States cannot use the Department of Justice to target his political enemies.
Glenn Beck
Okay.
Pat
Which is exactly what they did to Trump. They used the Department of Justice to prosecute an enemy. They. They did exactly that. That. And it's. It's just amazing that he can say that with a straight face.
Glenn Beck
Here's the problem with that argument, though, from your perspective, Pat, is you're not supposed to remember that.
Pat
Yeah, that's true.
Glenn Beck
The best thing for the left and.
Pat
The media would be when we forgot completely about that.
Glenn Beck
What if, like, what if going forward, you didn't bring it up anymore? What about that? Is that a possibility?
Pat
That would be helpful for them.
Glenn Beck
It would be helpful for them.
Pat
And you know, that's, that's a big part of my calculation. What's going to be, what's going to be helpful to the James Comey's and the, and the entire left. Yeah. In this country. Because that's, that's how I make a lot of decisions. Really.
Glenn Beck
I thought so.
Pat
I thought so.
Glenn Beck
Well, it's, it's so irritating because they showed no restraint whatsoever.
Pat
Remember, it wasn't one case.
Glenn Beck
They were like, hey, look, you know, January 6th, we think this was important to look into. It wasn't like they came up with something like that. It was, oh, here's every single thing. It's the same process argument we just had with Trump in a way and that, like, they broke every rule, every tradition, breaking things like statute of limitations to go after Donald Trump. They went after him in any way they could possibly do, whether it was civil cases, criminal cases, pressures, trying to get him thrown off ballots, trying to, you know, get him constitutionally barred from office.
Pat
Right.
Glenn Beck
Obviously, they tried to impeach him and did impeach him and tried to get him removed. Failed there. They tried every single thing they could. They broke every single tradition, they broke every single unwritten rule and many written rules to try to throw this man in prison so he would not get the job he currently has.
Pat
And they were warned every step of the way, hey, you might not want to do this. You won't always be in power.
Announcer
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Pat
You know, and then immediately, immediately, immediately.
Glenn Beck
When he's in the office and he does something they don't like, like, can you believe. Oh, my goodness. The Department of Justice has always been so pristine and now this man is using it against people from the opposing party. It's like, oh, calm down. The other one I is the same. I feel the same way about is we are risking political violence, are we? Let me whisper into the prison president's bloody and ask him about how he feels about it. Are we risking political violence? Boys and girls.
Pat
Insane.
Glenn Beck
So insultingly stupid.
Pat
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Pat
It's Pat and Stu for Glenn this week. 888-727-BECK Some interesting things from Sean Duffy as we prepare for, I think, isn't tomorrow the biggest travel day of the year?
Glenn Beck
That's what they always say.
Pat
So we're preparing for the biggest travel day of the year with this announcement from Sean Duffy.
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Civility.
Sean Duffy
Some of you might have noticed that we've launched a civility campaign. And I think it's important as, as we travel that we think about not just ourselves, not just our families, but we think about those who are around us and we call our better angels. In a busy time. And again, the airports are gonna be packed. TSA lines may be a little longer. And as you're, you might not be able to find a seat as you're by your gate because of the number of flights that are going out or coming in. But I think we have to think about how do we do a better job? How do we, you know, maintain maybe some of that frustration we have as we travel this Thanksgiving season. Maybe we should say pleasing. Thank you to our pilots and to our, to our flight attendants. I think, again, I, I call this just maybe dressing with some respect. You know, whether it's a pair of jeans and a decent shirt. I would encourage people to maybe dress a little better, which encourages, encourages us to maybe behave a little better. Let's try not to wear slippers and, and, and pajamas as we come to the airport. I think that's positive.
Pat
Okay. Thank you, Daddy. Sean, that's, that's good advice. So dress a little nicer if you're going to the airport this year. He doesn't want to see in pajamas and slippers, which I never see at the airport anyway. Do you see people, a lot of people wearing pajamas?
Glenn Beck
I mean, I think there is a.
Pat
Maybe on an overnight flight, the kids sometimes.
Glenn Beck
I was gonna say younger. Yeah, not even kids, but like, there's a, there's a teenager thing where they Wear pajamas all over the place these days, Pat. These, these children of today, they tend to wear the PJs to the airport. I like, I try to wear. Look, I like Sean, but I wear as comfortable clothing as possible to the airport.
Pat
I've got three inches between me and the seat in front of me. I'm going to dress comfortably.
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Pat
Frankly, I'm not wearing a suit and tie. Sorry. Sorry, Bud. This is Glenn Beck.
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Pat
It's Pat and Stu for Glenn this week. Another thing the left are having a bit about is the fact that the Pentagon announced yesterday they're investigating Democrat Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona over possible breaches of military law after he joined a handful of other lawmakers in a video that called for troops to defy illegal orders. What illegal orders have they received that? They can't seem to answer that question.
Glenn Beck
They really don't want to answer it.
Pat
No, because the answer is none. They haven't received any illegal orders. So what is it you're. I mean, why are you saying this all of a sudden? So there's a good question. Yeah. Where did this come from? They're just making stuff up out of whole cloth. How do you feel about the Pentagon investigating Mark Kelly?
Glenn Beck
A lot of it's complicated. Military rules. Right. All the people in the video, it's only Mark Kelly. My understanding of that is because he's the only one that's retired. You have to basically be out of the military for 20 years. And then there's this he's retired again. Again, every military person like how you don't know what you're talking about. This is my stupid, I never serve the country understanding of this. So please bear with me a little bit.
Pat
Maybe we'll be corrected if, you know, differently than this.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, but he basically is the only one that is in that category of retired, which means they can call him back and he can be asked about this under the military code of justice, which came out in the 50s right through this. So, anyway, long story short, there is a constitutional question to this in that he is in Congress and also has a responsibility through the military. So this is, I think, an interesting academic question here in a separation of powers sense that can the executive say, you need to leave what you're doing in Congress? Can the executive boss Congress around? A lot of times the answer to that is no. By the way, when everyone says there's co. Equal branches, really Congress is the superior branch in our system. I mean, the president can't impeach a member of Congress. Congress can impeach the President. Congress can do lots of things that they are the superior branch in a way. But there's separation of powers. You can't just boss the other one around. And that's the argument that they're going to present, I'm sure, in court. As to whether he even has to respond to this, as far as whether he did something wrong here, I think he definitely did something wrong morally, politically, because his motivation is not pure. When he says, okay, guys, illegal orders, everybody in the military area knows that.
Pat
What they're trying to do is get the military not to listen to Trump.
Glenn Beck
Right. And that's what I think he's. Everybody says, however, he didn't say that. His language, I thought in that entire video, it was very clean. They knew the risk was there if they started saying, don't listen to Donald Trump. So they say it that way.
Pat
They were careful not to do that.
Glenn Beck
They were very careful not to do it. So I don't know that there's a legal case against them unless new information pops out. What they might be doing here, Pat, I don't know. But what they might be doing is trying to start a legal proceeding that allows them to look at maybe the messages that led to the video, and maybe in there they reveal their actual motivation for doing it, and then that could be a problem. I don't think what we know publicly at this time would lead to that legally. Again, I think it was awful. And when I first saw it, my first thought was like, wait a minute, are you saying you want them to listen to the commander in chief? That there's all sorts of horrible. Glenn was talking about sedition and all these things. If we find more information that indicates that that might be a legitimate path. I just don't know that we know that yet.
Pat
That President Trump did ramp it up a little bit when he, when he accused the lawmakers of sedition and, and mentioned that sedition is punishable by death. So that made it seem to them supposedly, like he's threatening to have them executed, which he's. I don't think he was directly doing, but he's just reminding them, hey, if you commit sedition, if you commit treason, that's. That's the only penalty that's actually spel out in the Constitution. And what it calls for is death.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, well, you know, it's an interesting distinction you're making there, Pat, because he kind of see this kind of squawks.
Pat
That line a little bit and sometimes goes over the line just a tad.
Glenn Beck
I think there is literally, and I mean this literally, I'm using the word correctly here. Zero risk for any of these people to be executed.
Pat
Of course. Right.
Glenn Beck
Like, that is not actually going to be. He did sort of insinuate it and kind of say it. I don't know. I have to look up the definition of insinuate. He sort of just said it.
Pat
Right.
Glenn Beck
Like that they deserve it. There's zero chance it's going to happen. And this is why, like, a lot of the media nonsense is so irritating to me. It's like, they all know he's not. They're not going to go through a treason trial.
Pat
He's not saying he's going to try them and execute them. Quite obviously, he's not doing that.
Glenn Beck
Right. But what he's trying to do, I assume, is, number one, get under their skin. But number two, he's good at that. He is good at it. Number two, say, hey, this is a serious problem. And this is why what we talked about yesterday is true.
Pat
It is a serious problem.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, I think it's a problem. Yeah.
Pat
There was no reason for that video to be released, to be produced and released.
Glenn Beck
Why?
Pat
Who's giving illegal order? No one. So what are you even trying to do here? You're just. I mean, it's obvious what they're doing. They're just trying to impede Trump at every turn.
Glenn Beck
Yes. In a way that I think here is really dangerous.
Pat
Yeah, absolutely.
Glenn Beck
They are trying to get people, this is their way of everything from the baseline level, Pat, of they're trying to stir up whistleblowers. Right. They're trying to get people who are against Trump in the White House or, excuse me, in the military to say, hey, this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong, and leak it to Democratic officials. Right. Like, that's probably like their baseline idea. Bigger than that. I think there is a, A they would, they would absolutely love a high profile military member to come out in public and say, we are not allowed to go in these cities and this president is a fascist.
Pat
Oh, my God.
Glenn Beck
They're encouraging that at the very least. Now, it might be more than that, but I think that that's probably a good chunk of what they're attempting to do here. They're trying to be able to have people they can file lawsuits through. They're trying to stir up all sorts of opposition within the ranks because they hate him more than anything in the world. I know it sounds simple. Maybe some of them believe some of this. I don't know. I don't know any of them personally, and I don't think any of them have high enough profile that I could honestly separate them from the average Democrat. They're all very boring. Zilches. In Congress, there's no one, really. I mean, Mark Kelly's the biggest one. And again, Kelly was overlooked by vice President. This is something I did very well in prediction markets on. Pat was. I looked at, I even said this on the air when we were talking about who are they going to. Who is Kamala going to pick for vp? And I went through. This is part of the process I go through when I'm looking at On Paper and I look through all his people on paper, Shapiro and Walls and all of them. And I looked at Mark Kelly and I was like, on paper, he is the best choice. You've got a swing state in play. You've got a guy who served in the military.
Pat
He can give you that.
Glenn Beck
Astronauts, all these things, right?
Pat
Like cool things.
Glenn Beck
I went through the whole thing and I was like, on paper, this is the guy. And I said, on the air, I still have to do my film study, though. You know, when you listen, you know, you listen to. If you're a fan of an NFL team and you like, listen to all their podcasts and stuff they'll go through, and every once you'll get a podcast on film study and they'll be like this is they're running this pattern too much. Their defense is lining up in this formation too often against this, you know, the nerds, the nerd stuff and film study for that for me is I go watch and how good is this guy? Just take out the policy, take out his credentials when I watch him. Is he any good at this?
Pat
Is he good at speeches?
Glenn Beck
Is he good at speeches? Is he good at a debate? Remember, in a vice presidential debate, all of that. There's only one thing that really matters when you pick a vice president when it comes down to it, which is how does he do in that debate? There's really the only thing that matters is he going to. And I watched a bunch of, of debates and press conferences and speeches and I was like, they are not picking this guy.
Pat
Oh, he's bad.
Glenn Beck
He just sucks. He just sucks. He looks like, he looks nervous, he looks like he's reading, he looks like he's trying to memorize stuff. Now you see him at certain times and he's pretty natural when he's on his turf, when he's talking about something he cares about. He's not bad when you put him in a position of a debate. He's just really bad at it. He's not good at it. He's not convincing. He's stilted and bad. And so that was when I was like buying shares of no. Because I just didn't think it was gonna happen. Now I have to admit on that one, I was also shocked that they picked Tim Walz.
Pat
Did you talk about bad?
Glenn Beck
Cuz he's horrible in every way. He's bad on paper and bad on film. He's the worst. Yes.
Pat
Lied about his military service, lied about his drunk driving thing. Was terrible at speeches.
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Pat
I don't know how they stumbled on him, but I'm glad they did.
Glenn Beck
I'm glad they did too.
Pat
Awful.
Glenn Beck
I was awful. He did eat up some of my profits from the Mark Kelly decision, unfortunately. I was like, there's no way they're gonna pick Tim Walls. What are you talking about? But they did, thankfully. But like that's the thing. So again, my point there is that none of these people are really of note. You know, you're kind of like, who? Wait that. Honestly, when I watched the video, I didn't know they were all congressmen.
Pat
No, I, I do this for a living.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, I didn't even know they were all congressmen.
Pat
I think Mark Kelly was the only one I recognized.
Glenn Beck
Slotkin. Wasn't Slotkin in there? I Knew her. There's a couple in there, but I don't.
Announcer
A couple of them.
Glenn Beck
I was like, who is that guy? It's like they were like the John Tyler of congressmen.
Pat
Like, yeah.
Glenn Beck
Wait, John Tyler was a president of the United States?
Pat
Really?
Glenn Beck
Are you sure? He's like. It's like, oh, okay. I didn't know that that's who they are. And so I think a lot of it is, you know, they just, you know, while they were in the CIA or they were in the military, that's really their only qualification for anyone caring about what they would say. And Kelly's the only one of note that would be even worth going after. I think they're all kind of nobodies. They're all kind of stupid.
Pat
And the only reason we know about him is because he was an astronaut. I mean. Yeah, nobody knows anything about his. His time in Congress. We know that his wife was shot. We know that. Oh, we know.
Glenn Beck
I could. I don't know. I've never heard him talk about it, Pat. I've never heard him bring it up one time. You know, he does it at every single opportunity, including this one, by the way, exploit the terrible tragedy that happened to his wife. He doesn't do that at all.
Pat
Yep.
Glenn Beck
This happened with this case because of, as you mentioned, Donald Trump's. What is it? Truth about the death penalty was like, this is not a time to bring up political violence. I know a little something about political violence. My wife was shot in the head. And look, that was an absolutely terrible thing. It had nothing to do with political violence. The person who did it was literally insane. He was upset about grammar. Grammar. He had a fascination with structures of sentences and punctuation. He was completely insane. It was not political violence. He was just nuts.
Pat
We should have blamed English teachers.
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Pat
For that. Shoot. We should have put English teachers in prison because they inspired that guy.
Glenn Beck
Yes, Right. Exactly. Thank you.
Pat
Too much. Talk about grammar. Set him off. Triple A, eight, seven, two, seven. Beck. More coming up. Freedom's worth a lot more than comfort. Here's what I found on the web.
Glenn Beck
About that private conversation you just had.
Pat
What? Are you uncomfortable yet?
Glenn Beck
Glenn Beck is back after this.
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Pat
This is Patton Stew for Glenn 88727 Beck. Our friend Ali Beth Stuckey had a guy on her show who was talking about the genocide side of Nigerian Christians. Oh, wow. And I've learned a lot that I didn't know about it up until this point because what you hear from the mainstream news is that it's not really happening. Yeah, it's not happening. And in fact, if it does happen, it's the. They're killing Christians and Muslims. Well, he kind of clears up what is going on there. And it's a radicalized faction of Islam called the Fulani tribe tribe, which I guess has exploded in population over the last 30 years. And they are a very hardcore Sharia law group and they're trying to take over Nigeria. And so if you don't convert to their form, their vision of Islam, then you are killed. And that's Christian or Muslim. Now he says it's about five to one Christians being killed over Muslims and they've wiped out in 800 some villages in or communities of Christians. In fact, Nigeria used to have a 70% Christian population. Were you aware of that? I had no idea that it was 70% Christian. And now it's.
Glenn Beck
I thought it was 70% prince people are princes. 70% of the population.
Pat
Of the Nigerian population, yes. Yeah.
Glenn Beck
At least that from my email.
Pat
From your emails. Yeah. That it would be. But it's not.
Glenn Beck
It's not.
Pat
No, it's. It's not.
Glenn Beck
They don't. And some of the things that I get in my email box, they don't seem very Christian. They seem like they're exploiting old people.
Pat
It does seem that way, doesn't it? Yeah.
Glenn Beck
No, apparently some of them. Those people probably aren't the ones sending the emails.
Pat
Probably not. Yeah. Probably not would be my guess.
Glenn Beck
That's fascinating though. It's a really.
Pat
But it's gone from 70 to about half and a half now because of. Of the slaughter of Christians. It's just really a tragic situation. But. But the media just won't get on board, won't say anything about it. In fact, they do the opposite. They deny it's even happening. It's a lot like what happened in South Africa. There's no white farmers being killed there.
Glenn Beck
But the Christians in Nigeria committed an October 7th like attack. Right. That's what caused this?
Pat
No.
Glenn Beck
Oh no, no, no, they did not. Wow, that's interesting.
Pat
So, yeah, this is Glenn Beck.
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Fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program featuring Pat and Stu. This week it looks like the GOP might have a big solution on healthcare. We're gonna get into that, plus some developments maybe on the peace front for Ukraine and Russia. That and a lot more coming up in one minute.
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Pat
Remember, stu, back in 2009, 2010, when the whole Obamacare situation began and we were somewhat opposed to it, I would say.
Glenn Beck
Really?
Pat
At the beginning. Yeah. See, I don't remember. You don't remember that. So we were against Barack Obama wanted this Obamacare thing. Oh, that's right. We want.
Announcer
Wanted.
Glenn Beck
I see. I could have. We wanted people to die.
Pat
Yes.
Glenn Beck
We wanted tonsils to be piled up in the streets because people and removed.
Pat
Just for no reason.
Glenn Beck
For no reason. Because. Just because they're getting payments. That's what these doctors do.
Pat
Exactly.
Glenn Beck
These evil doctors are just taking out tonsils and amputating feet. If you remember at the time, there's.
Pat
A big problem with, with the feet.
Glenn Beck
Thing piled up on the side of the road at almost every intersection section because doctors would just take feet off. They just. You come in for a cold, they chop off your foot.
Pat
It made an extra 500 bucks for them.
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Pat
What are you gonna do?
Glenn Beck
They don't care if you can get.
Pat
An extra 500 bucks, you're gonna take somebody's feet off.
Glenn Beck
This is what doctors do. That's what your, your hometown doctors would wrap what they do. You have no feet.
Pat
Then him not have 500 bucks in the bank. That's.
Glenn Beck
And that was a big problem at the time. And we were like, let's continue that problem going forward.
Pat
We love, loved it. We loved it when people lost their feet for no apparent reason.
Glenn Beck
And tonsils and yes, I will say we've always been anti tonsil here on the Glenn Beck program. It's been a big.
Pat
It was taken out when I was like six.
Announcer
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
Foundational principle of the show. Honestly. We were like, what can we do that's different than, you know, what everyone else is doing? We're like, what if we're just take a strong stance against tonsils.
Pat
And what about foot amputation?
Glenn Beck
Are you for it?
Pat
And we were all for it. We all agreed, especially Glenn. Glenn was like, I want every person. Person's feet to be removed.
Glenn Beck
Exactly.
Pat
All of them.
Glenn Beck
And piled up at intersections.
Pat
Yes.
Glenn Beck
That was a big Glenn policy at the beginning of the show. And I think we won that battle for a Long time until that dastardly Barack Obama came around and was like, no, darn him. I want people's feet to be attached to their legs so they can walk.
Pat
Around and stop taking tonsils out needlessly.
Glenn Beck
I know. We're like, what kind of position is that to take crazy. And somehow he walked one with his Obamacare, which solved all of our health care concerns, Pat, if you remember, and.
Pat
You remember when it went down 2.
Glenn Beck
500 per year per family, once you spend that 2500. Do you remember?
Pat
I don't remember now because what happened was it just became so routine to me, saving the $2,500 every year, year after year after year that I just kept spending and spending, spending.
Glenn Beck
It's like Clark W. Griswold. He, he just thought that bonus was part of his salary. And then they gave him the jelly of the month climbing club membership and he was very disappointed in that because he depended on it for part of his salary. He's going to put it in a new pool, Pat.
Pat
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
However, in this case, these doctors were depending on the foot amputation fees they.
Pat
Were receiving and then they dried up.
Glenn Beck
And then they just dried up.
Pat
That's why so many doctors went out of business almost instantly.
Glenn Beck
No doctors left in this country until Obamacare came and solved that problem too. We had a lot of problems with our health care, Pat, until Obamacare came around. And as you remember, it was pitched to us as this big solution to all of our problems when it came to healthcare. Now, and it's made everything worse now. It's made, first of all, it's made everything worse. Prices have gone up. We never saw that $2,500 savings. Still feet and tonsils piled up all over the place.
Pat
If you liked your doctor, it didn't matter to the government if they didn't like your doctor, you couldn't keep your doctor.
Glenn Beck
No. So all of the promises of this were of course, failures. But what I find to be most interesting about all of this, Pat, though, is not that conservatives were completely right about basically every single aspect of this plan and how it was going to fail. What I find to be just wonderful. Come back to sarcasm now. Just wonderful.
Pat
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
Is the fact that the hardcore conservative position currently is what if we just keep regular Obamacare? That's the right wing position right now. And honestly, that's aspirational because it seems like the Senate and House and President are gonna line up behind a deal that is going to allow the enhanced subsidies to continue. Let me ask you this concession, may.
Pat
I ask you a question in regards to this whole thing.
Glenn Beck
I would love to hear.
Pat
Hear it. Don't we have a majority in Congress right now where we don't have to put up with this?
Glenn Beck
Democrats have 80 senators.
Pat
Oh, wow.
Glenn Beck
I'm pretty sure. Wow. And they have 433 House members. They're all Democrats.
Pat
Wow.
Glenn Beck
Apparently.
Pat
Huh.
Glenn Beck
Because that is.
Pat
It doesn't make any sense to me. How did this happen where they just don't do anything about it now when they have the power to? They just don't.
Glenn Beck
No. Well, I mean that I. They act as if the John McCain thumbs down was the end of their week. We just can't try anything anymore. John McCain said no in 2017. And so therefore we could never address this problem ever again.
Pat
Wow.
Glenn Beck
Because it would come off as mean. People want their free money and if we don't give them their free money, they won't have their free money. And Pat, you might say, well, what about, look, there are people who don't have enough money to afford health care. They're maybe poor, right. On the lower income scale. And those people should have their Obamacare. We should remind you, they're not on Obamacare. There's already a program for those people. Those people are going Medicaid. That's a different program, which exists and by the way, is also not the conservative position to get rid of that.
Pat
Right.
Glenn Beck
Or Medicare or any other program, apparently, Social Security, none of these things are even considered by the right anymore to get rid of, despite the fact that it's obviously consistent with what we believe the government should be doing. We just ignore it and continue to pay off out trillions of dollars for all these programs. But you might say, Pat, well, what about those enhanced subsidies? They must be very important and to rewind a little bit here for people who maybe have not followed the back and forth of every part of this debate. Obamacare comes in, what we say is, hey, there's going to be problems with all these risk pools that you are creating, because what you're asking to occur is that a bunch of healthy people are going to pay for the health care of a bunch of sick people and a bunch of young people who are generally expected to be healthy are going to pay for the health care of a bunch of older people. And that's not right. They're not going to want to do that. You can't constitutionally force them to do it. They tried, but you can't constitutionally force them to do that. That was overturned in the courts. So you're gonna have this situation where younger people are gonna be like, well, my rates keep going up and up and up and up and up, and I'm not even using this healthcare system. This seems like a problem to me. I'm no longer going to pay you for it. So the rate, now we have a bunch of sick people in a risk pool, and the rates keep going up, and then that means more healthy people drop out, and then the rates go up, and then more healthy people drop out, and then the rates go up, and then more healthy. So now that's why the rates have gone through the roof over these years. This is why what you're feeling if you're in Obamacare is real. This is something very much predicted by every single critic of Obamacare. All that happened. So we get into the COVID period, there's an emergency, and luckily for the Democrats, they are able to take advantage of emergencies. Someone once said, never let a crisis go to waste. So the way they did not let that crisis go to waste in this particular instance was to add enhanced subsidies on top of the of the already generous subsidies that the government gives people to buy Obamacare, depending on your situation. And that was a bill passed in 2020, and maybe you could justify it pat through 2021. Maybe that was justifiable. Again, I tend to not like those approaches, but it was a crazy time. I think we can all look back at this. Remember, Donald Trump was in office in 2020. A lot of Republicans voted for that too, but they voted for it for one year. One year. Hey, got a really tough time this year. Let's do this this year and then we'll stop doing it after this year. What you may remember is, of course, Joe Biden was elected. He goes into office, and then he has a different opinion on what we should do.
Pat
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
And they extend this from 2021 to 2025. So this is what leads to the shutdown. These extensions are now going away. And enhanced subsidies means bas money on top of the free money already out of Obamacare. So what conservatives at that time were saying was, hey, let's be really conservative and put Obamacare into place. And then liberals are saying, no, Obamacare would be a disaster and hurt lots of families. What we need is a lot more money on top of Obamacare, Enhanced Obamacare, a new Coke, Obamacare on top of it. And Republicans are like, oh, I want Obamacare classes. That's legitimately what the argument was during the shutdown. Now, of course, the shutdown's passed and Republicans are now Admitting their actual position, which is we actually want to go to the enhanced subsidies for more time. And what do the enhanced subsidies mean? I don't know if people understand this, because a lot of people think, oh, well, poor people need health care. They can't pay for it. Okay, that's Medicaid. Here's enhanced subsidies. Obama, how many people you have in your family? Pat, let's go back to you. When you.
Pat
300. 300. About 300.
Glenn Beck
No, I mean in your, in your, in your direct family, in your household right now. 200, 207.
Pat
It's just the two of us now. You know, we've.
Glenn Beck
I'm thinking, though, like, when you have all your kids in the house, like, they're all school, so six children. So let's use that as an example.
Pat
Parents.
Glenn Beck
So what Obamacare says is. I don't think. I don't think your parents would be caught. This would be dependent. Dependence only. But I don't know how that would work. But okay, I think it's only. Let's just count the six. Let's take you back to, like, you're in. Kids are in, you know, from high school down to grade school. They're all home.
Pat
Yep.
Glenn Beck
You're putting them all on your. On the Obamacare program. What Obamacare says. Obamacare Classic says that you should get free money for health care if you earn less than $172,600.
Pat
Wow.
Glenn Beck
That's Obamacare Classic. Okay.
Pat
Okay.
Glenn Beck
What the Obamacare.
Pat
I make $171,000. I get the. I get these benefits.
Glenn Beck
Yes. $172,600 or less.
Pat
Wow.
Glenn Beck
Okay.
Pat
So very poor. You make a little bit less than the US Representatives, than the congressmen and senators, because they make what, 175.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, it's interesting. Now, the enhanced subsidies, they have different programs. So that is interesting. It's an interesting line. The enhanced is a what now? Enhanced subsidies are all different. And everything else. The income side, the restriction. Now, this is the restriction. What Republicans are saying is, hey, we can't make this unlimited because what the enhanced subsidies did is basically took away a lot of the limits. What Republicans are saying, we need a conservative approach. Okay. So the conservatives are stepping up and they're saying, hey, it's ridiculous. $172,000 Obamacare, that would be insane to implement that sort of limit. What we suggest as conservatives is a limit of $302,050 for that family of six. You should be able to.
Pat
This is for Obamacare.
Glenn Beck
Obamacare subsidies should apply to a family making $300,000 a year.
Pat
Gosh.
Glenn Beck
Which is a lot of money.
Pat
I have not heard that.
Glenn Beck
It's insane.
Pat
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
And that's what. What we're coming back with. We're saying, hey, guys, sure, we'll give you these enhanced subsidies for a couple of years, but we gotta limit the income to 300,000 for a family of six. Come on. We're conservatives, after all. Wow.
Announcer
Wow.
Glenn Beck
Now, this is a lot of. This is political. What they are saying is they don't want to be responsible for people having their health care bills go up. They know what the media is gonna say. They know what Democrats are gonna say and what they're doing.
Pat
To be clear. Cowards folding.
Glenn Beck
They're cowards folding to this pressure.
Pat
They're in the majority. Keep in mind, yes, Republicans are the majority in the House and in the Senate, and they're still caving in like this. Unreal. What do the Democrats want? What is their demand?
Glenn Beck
They want it to be higher and more unlimited. Right. They don't want the limits.
Pat
Wow. No limits on income.
Glenn Beck
You know, off the top of my head, I can't remember if they. There are some instances. I think there are limits. I thought, if I'm remembering right, it's been a couple weeks since I did. I did a monologue on Studios America about this, if you want to go back and nerd out on the details of the program. But off the top of my head, I remember they removed the limits because of the COVID thing and then extended that. So it was a situation. Now, most people who are making this type of money aren't in the Obamacare program.
Pat
Right.
Glenn Beck
Most people have jobs and are not in. They're getting their health care through the employer, which is, by the way, a whole nother set of problems. That would be something that would be great if we could solve and maybe Republicans could come up with a plan that addresses core parts of this program. I think the issue here is they just are afraid whatever they do is going to come off as mean. And so they're just not going to do anything. They're going to try to limit the damage of a program they say they don't like. But honestly, I don't know what evidence there is, of course, that at this point. I don't know.
Pat
Incredible.
Glenn Beck
I think that's terrible, frankly. We should be proposing something that is dynamic and new and different, that changes the system, actually solves these problems for people long term. But I don't think it's a huge priority of anybody in Congress or Anybody in Washington?
Pat
Frankly, obviously not. Wow. 88727 Beck more coming up in one minute.
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Pat
All of this stuff, it's Patton stew for Glenn this week. All, all of this stuff that has been put in place for, because of the pandemic. It's not, it's not just healthcare, it's not just Obamacare subsidies. It was, it was voting situations too. The drop boxes were put out so that you didn't have to, to be around a bunch of people at the, at the polling place. A lot of mail in, new mail in restrictions or non restrictions. They opened that up because of the pandemic. And we can't get rid of any of it now because the Democrats cry about it every single time.
Glenn Beck
And then if you change any of it, like we, we were thinking that we wouldn't have Toyota Corollas owned by government employees driving around and picking up ballots in packs of 300 from each household. If you think if you want to limit that program, then you hate democracy, right? So you can't do it. And so there's been very little pushback. Some states have curbed some of it, but some not in impressive ways. I think at times we lose track as to how damaging that period was. Obviously a lot of people died, right? There's a lot of the first level concerns, but how much damage was done through the COVID period But to our.
Pat
Republic it really hurt us.
Glenn Beck
Another example of this, and I'm convinced of this largely I could potentially, theoretically be wrong on it. So I will admit that. But I'm pretty convinced of this. There's a chart that's been going around, you probably saw it, Pat, that showed home ownership for first time home buyers. And it shows a dramatic increase. And people are like, since we were kids, the numbers change from 32 to 40 for first time home buyers. You talked about this on Pac Ray Unleashed.
Pat
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
And it's a big thing and it is a real problem. However, looking at the data, I'm pretty convinced that the problem is almost exclusively from COVID Oh, really? Yeah. Because when you look at it, that 32 year old first time buyer holds from the time when I was in high school all the way till 2019, it's 32, it bounces up to 33, down to 29 or whatever a couple times in that range over a long period of time. But it stays really consistent right around that 32 number until 2019. And then it shoots almost straight up to 40. If you think about what happened with COVID right, you're in a house, you have really low rates, you've got your 3% mortgage, Covid hits, everyone stays inside. A lot of people lose their job, all sorts of weird effects happen. Then you come out of that and then there's a bunch of people who, some of them have extra money because they've been flooded with money from the government for certain purposes. The markets go crazy. A lot of people have extra cash, some of them spend it on real estate, the prices start going up and then because of the inflation that occurs from the answers to Covid, the Inflation Reduction act, the American rescue bill, that whole thing, the Joe Biden spending spree that occurs in 2021 and into 2022, we get the inflation that turns into Bidenflation that winds up raising these rates. So now you have a situation where the economy is rough, everything's way more expensive, you have all sorts of pressures when it comes to jobs and all these other things. And you're now looking at the house. If you are in a house with a 3% mortgage, you're never leaving it. So there's not as much supply on the market for people to buy. Because now if you're going to refinance and go to a new house, you're going to pay twice or more of the mortgage. And then people that want to get into a house are looking at these houses and are saying, well, I can't afford a good enough house with this much money because the interest is too high. And that's, I think, the main part of why that chart has skyrocketed over the past couple of years.
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Pat
It's Pat and Stu for Glenn today. Triple 8727 Beck. This is pretty exciting. It looks like Ukraine has agreed to some kind of deal. We don't know if it's the 28 point plan that that President Trump proposed. I don't know if it's the alteration from the European Union, but they've come away saying, yeah, we've agreed on the essence of a peace agreement. At least the US and Ukraine have agreed on that agreement. Now Putin's not part of that, the Russia's not part of that yet. But what's not to like for them? I mean it's a pretty good plan seemingly for Russia. They get 20% percent of Ukraine's territory.
Glenn Beck
Just to stop there for one second. Pat is more territory than they currently have.
Pat
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
So basically like even the stuff that Ukraine has protected successfully all this time, they have to give up a big chunk of that and let Russia get past some really important strategic lines.
Pat
I'm really surprised they're agreeing to and I guess they're agreeing to that. We don't know if, I don't know, maybe they altered that.
Glenn Beck
But it is very, we've had these situations before and this is, I think part of the Trump foreign policy, you know, approach is to say, hey, we agreed and then let everyone come out and say, wait, what are you talking about? And pressure them essentially into it. Some of that might be happening here, though. Ukraine has come out and said, we have, we've agreed to something. Yes. Basically every side is saying outside except for Russia, we've agreed to something. We don't know what is in that something. We think it's based on this 28 point plan, but we don't actually know that yet.
Pat
Which included the 20% of Ukrainian territory. It included Russia rejoining the G7, which would then be the G8 again. And it included Ukraine limiting their army in some way to a certain number that I guess would be agreed upon them. And yeah, it's like a big reduction, reduction in their army and that they can never join NATO now that that was kind of agreed upon by us. And a long time, a long time.
Glenn Beck
Ago we, I have very little sympathy for Russia's arguments in most of this. We did pretty much mislead them on that.
Pat
We did.
Glenn Beck
Meaning the United States back in the day.
Pat
And I've used the example that how would we feel if it was Cuba, if Cuba was joining the Soviet Union in some sort of military packaging? I mean we'd be, we, we went through that essentially when they were, you know, during the Cuban Missile Crisis and we didn't appreciate it and we let them know.
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Pat
And we put a stop to it.
Glenn Beck
You know, certainly differences and there always are differences in these situations. But I mean, I think that was a more imminent threat than what Ukraine was, was probably proposing towards Russia at that time. Again, Russia did not need to invade Ukraine and I do believe that they are the most wrong in this particular conflict. That does not mean Ukraine is perfect and that I love everybody, everybody in their leadership, but.
Pat
Well, you need to.
Glenn Beck
I do.
Pat
Yeah. You really do.
Glenn Beck
That was, there was a time in which that did seem to be the case. If you did not love everybody in.
Pat
Ukraine's leadership, if you weren't flying a Ukrainian flag, you were a traitor.
Glenn Beck
You know, I never, never changed profile picture on that one there. I haven't either did you know. But that being said said, I am surprised if what they agreed to is what was reported. It's pretty amazing they agreed to it.
Pat
I am, I am too.
Glenn Beck
It is a complete capitulate, capitulation to Russia and I don't know why Russia wouldn't agree to it other than the fact that Russia actually wants the entire country. And that's what they were going for initially. And maybe they think Ukraine is in such a weak position, they can get it. I don't know.
Pat
And they must be right, because why would you. Why would you agree to this? It's not good for them.
Glenn Beck
I think they should agree to something that, you know, my thought was, I don't know, maybe where the lines are now. Why are they getting additional territories?
Pat
That's what I thought.
Glenn Beck
Completely insane.
Pat
Yeah, it is.
Glenn Beck
And I think it's completely insane, too, for the country that got invaded to have to cut their military.
Pat
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
Like, that's the type of agreement you make when you're surrendered. Surrendering, yes. Not one you make in a quote, unquote, peace negotiation, which the surrender is largely potentially, at least based on the fact that maybe we didn't say the Biden standard of anything you want, anytime you want, anytime you want, for as long as you want, is going to be upheld. And I think that's something we should have said to them privately a long time ago. Hey, just so you know, in one year from today, in six months from today, this is all going away from us. So you better figure a way out of this. And that might be what Trump did. You know, this can't be eternal support.
Pat
It must have been, because they clearly are in a much different position right now than they were before. In fact, an official in Zelensky's office said that if the deal was the framework from. Ginny, you. Geneva, we're okay with it. It's not a bad framework to work further. So that included all the things we just talked about, the framework from Geneva. In fact, the European framework was even worse than what President Trump proposed. Really?
Glenn Beck
I don't think I saw that. What was the European framework?
Pat
It had more restrictions on them and more concessions for them. I don't remember all the specific details.
Glenn Beck
Hmm.
Pat
But they seem to be even more hardcore than the 28 points that Trump proposed.
Glenn Beck
Wow.
Pat
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
I mean, there's no way Zelensky survives signing that deal.
Pat
No way.
Glenn Beck
I don't mean that physically, but I mean, that is in a leadership position like his country is not going to stand for it. And is there any. I mean, Russia is not going to stand for it probably either. No.
Pat
They want him gone. Yeah.
Glenn Beck
They want him gone.
Pat
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
What about this, Pat? Because I'm a little nervous that we're giving up on are anything you want, anytime you want, for as long as you want philosophy. What if, for every mile, they Lose in territory to Russia. We give them those square miles in the United States, we just make.
Pat
I'm surprised that hasn't been proposed.
Glenn Beck
Yeah. So far. I don't think it has.
Pat
Like, we give them Alaska or at least part of it, or it's cold. Is that too cold?
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Pat
Hawaii. You want to give them Hawaii or.
Glenn Beck
Maybe a little each. Like, what if we give them half of Alaska and like, several islands in. We don't need all of those islands in Hawaii. And they need a place to vacation.
Pat
True. It's really cold in Ukraine.
Glenn Beck
Yeah. So this time of year, why don't we do that?
Pat
That's a good idea.
Glenn Beck
I think that's probably a legitimate way of going.
Pat
So you give them half of Alaska, which would be about the size of Texas, and then some of the Hawaiian islands.
Glenn Beck
Yeah. Like, we have a draft. I think, like, you know, first pick maybe is Maui. Maui. Then Oahu goes, then the Big Island. You just go through the main thing.
Pat
Okay.
Glenn Beck
And I think if we go through a draft, and I think it's a snake draft, so whoever gets the first pick also gets the second and third. And we just select the islands that way. Well, look, that's fair.
Pat
We've got 50 states right now. Do we need 50?
Glenn Beck
We don't need all of them.
Pat
We don't need them all. You know, maybe it's really greedy of us.
Glenn Beck
You know, that's probably right. Maybe we just give them their pick of five states, whichever ones you want, you know, and hopefully they don't take advantage of us, you know, and go after it.
Pat
Probably take California, Texas.
Glenn Beck
Yeah. California might actually run better under the Ukrainian government. Newsom. So that one might be an improvement.
Pat
New York, what would you pick? Florida.
Glenn Beck
I. I'm going after Florida.
Pat
That's probably the first ones I take. And then Idaho.
Glenn Beck
Maybe we do.
Pat
You got to get Idaho.
Glenn Beck
Like the NBA, does it have protected picks? There's certain states we could protect.
Pat
We're not giving up.
Glenn Beck
We're not going to give up Florida. We're not going to go up Texas.
Pat
It's right in the middle of the country.
Glenn Beck
Right. But they can. You know, I just. It's unfair. It's unfair that we have not. We will not provide them anything until eternity. Anything they want.
Pat
I.
Glenn Beck
Absolutely. It's such an interesting question, Pat, because as an American, what I care about most is America and these citizens of America like. And I.
Pat
Kind of selfish. You don't care about Ukraine more than America?
Glenn Beck
Not more.
Pat
I will say as much. Do you care about them as much because you're supposed to.
Glenn Beck
I mean, I care about people living and dying, but my policy as a government, if that's my role in this particular conversation, is to put American interests first. And there's a lot of. You say America first, and it means a lot of things to a lot of people. I will say it's been used in very bad ways in history, that particular phrase, but it is, of course, a very logical position for a country to have. Now, I am not of the. There's a new kind of addition to that, America only, which I am not a fan of, not my view as a person of faith. I don't think everyone. I don't come to a place where I think everyone in every other country asks, screw them. That's not what. I just don't find that to be a position that. That is consistent with other beliefs that I have. That being said, it is not as a government policy, we should be trying to do the best things that we can. And I believe the best thing that we can for our country in this period is to make sure that this conflict does not end up with nuclear weapons flying all over the globe. That's really what I'm really concerned about. And I'm less concerned about it today day with President Trump in office and that I think that he is more consistent. I'm more confident in his level of leadership than I was in the last president. I was legitimately scared. I thought it was underplayed as a risk as to how close we were with our president coming out and saying, I'll give. Hey, hey, other nuclear superpower, we will give anything that they want for any amount of time that they want in perpetuity to your opponent in war is not a stance that could lead to calm. And I was worried that that could spiral out of control. I'm a little bit less worried about it now, but still, I think it's the main thing that we would like to avoid and so ending this conflict. To me, as an American, I really, at this point, don't care all that much about a few miles here and there of territory, because that's my priority. However, if I happen to be a Ukrainian citizen, if I were a Ukrainian.
Pat
Talk show host, they're going to have some problems with.
Glenn Beck
I would have massive problems with this.
Pat
Ukrainian official deeply involved, this says, with the ceasefire negotiations and said that the United States appears to have agreed to the documents set out by Europe's allies in Geneva over the weekend. And it's not the US plan that's interesting.
Glenn Beck
So that's not surprising, though, right? Like, I don't think the US Plan could stand up to Ukraine. I give Trump a lot of credit for getting a starting point. This is what happens usually, like, no one says anything because they're like, oh, well, they never accept that. So we never do anything. Trump is like, let's just put a proposal down.
Pat
And he does this all over the world.
Glenn Beck
And it's worked all over the world. It's the same thing. If you come in and you want to buy a building that they don't necessarily want to sell, you put it, make an offer, right. And make them tell you, no, I don't want this offer. What I want is this. And then you have something, you have a beginning point and an end point, and you try to find a place in the middle. That's what he does all over the globe. And it has worked many times. Will it work here? I don't know.
Pat
We'll see.
Glenn Beck
But it seems to me hard to believe that the Ukrainians could possibly accept. Accept a situation where they lose more land than they've already lost and shrink their military at the same time. It's just inviting another invasion. As soon as they build their military up again in Russia, I just don't know how they can accept that.
Pat
There is speculation that they're just plain running out of people to fight this.
Glenn Beck
War outside of a real surrender, which might be where they are.
Pat
Yeah, it might be, but that's not.
Glenn Beck
At least where the war nerds that have all the maps out, they're not necessarily saying that, like, you know, like the people who really study this on a day to day basis, the think tanks that are looking at, you know, the lines of control and really monitoring over the minutiae of this, they don't say, they say more stalemate than they say, right, Russia's about to win and overtake the country. It's more like, I don't think they.
Pat
Want to admit the reality. And I think the reality is closer to Russia's about to win this thing.
Glenn Beck
You think?
Pat
I think so. I think it's unfortunate.
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Glenn Beck
I agree with you. I don't know that it's imminent. But if you think.
Pat
But the writing is on the wall.
Glenn Beck
If the writing's on the wall eventually, well, then I suppose maybe save some lives and if you can cut, if you can get real security lines built up. That's been my argument from the beginning. I don't mind helping Ukraine, but with sales of defenses there to make sure that line, line is so Impossible to cross next time that it is. You know those lines are really built up. So with these don't move again. I don't mind being supportive to them on that because they shouldn't. Russia shouldn't be rolling over every one of them.
Pat
No, they should not. No. Triple 8727 Beck. Keep your powder dry and your conscience clear.
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Pat
Patton stew for Glenn this week. Triple eight seven two seven, Beck. We're just going over this peace plan. It looks like it's a little different than, than President Trump proposed. He proposed a 28 point plan. This is, I guess there's got some, there's some similarities to it but it's not completely that.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, so much of the back and forth gets really, really difficult to understand because you have to go really deep and understand centuries of history to really put in perspective both sides positions. But to try to boil it down, if you don't understand this at that level, basically Ukraine, Ukraine is a country in Europe, okay. And it exists next to another country called Russia.
Pat
Okay. Now Russia is a bigger country than Ukraine is.
Glenn Beck
Okay. Russia is a powerful country.
Pat
Oh wow.
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Pat
Really?
Glenn Beck
And Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine.
Pat
That doesn't seem fair or right. So, so basically, uh huh.
Glenn Beck
That's wrong.
Pat
Okay, so my intuition on that was correct.
Glenn Beck
Yes, absolutely.
Pat
It was wrong for this to happen.
Glenn Beck
It was wrong for this to happen.
Pat
Okay. Now again, that's what I was thinking in the first place.
Glenn Beck
I've had to go deep into policy papers and foreign affairs think tanks to get that information.
Pat
Right. Because that's some pretty deep stuff.
Glenn Beck
It was something that you may have remembered Kamala Harris saying Ukraine is a country in Europe. See, you remember that. The sea.
Pat
No, you were right.
Glenn Beck
So that was part of my, my basis for that.
Pat
So that's where you got it. Yeah, was from. So that's not your own thinking that came from Kamala Harris. I mean, because I was really impressed for a minute.
Glenn Beck
I like to think I'm a smart guy, but I'm not that smart.
Pat
No.
Glenn Beck
No.
Pat
Very few are. Very few. This, this is glenn beck. It looks like we were talking about the, the potential peace agreement between Ukraine and Russia. It looks like while we're finalizing the details of this with Ukraine, Russia is apparently unlikely to accept the changes in the new peace plan to end the war. Oh, okay. Well, there you go. Yeah, probably not going to happen.
Glenn Beck
They, they don't want to give up anything, basically. And their proposal, which, you know, some people argued was essentially what Trump was floating. And by the way, even if he was just floating their proposal, it's still a positive move towards peace. You know, again, I don't, I try would be my, my argument try.
Pat
And he has been trying, has been.
Glenn Beck
Trying hard and he has hard. But I, but I. Russia's demands were so extreme, it didn't seem like they'd be agreeing to anything like this.
Pat
Wow.
Glenn Beck
But I think again, the other side of this is true, too. Trump and the Trump side coming out and saying, hey, we've agreed. Is the same, same thing he did in, in Israel. Right? Like, it was like, oh, we've all agreed it's all over. And so now everyone has to scramble to try to push back against that, which again, is, is better than what we had yesterday.
Pat
It puts pressure.
Glenn Beck
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Pat
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Pat
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Pat
Huge fan you are of the wnba. Oh, I mean, you know, do you ever miss a game ever?
Glenn Beck
I mean, here's the thing, Pat.
Pat
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
I have never missed a WNBA game since the launch of the last league. I've watched every single minute.
Pat
That's incredible. Every game. Wow. That's hard to do. That's hard to do, you know, not for me, no.
Glenn Beck
Because I have a huge passion for watching mediocre basketball.
Pat
Oh, yeah. Who doesn't?
Glenn Beck
You know, it's.
Pat
Who doesn't?
Glenn Beck
It's utterly fantastic to see teams that, you know, sure, they might lose to 9th grade boys teams frequently if they play delayed, but. But I, I want to know who's the best at that level.
Pat
Right.
Glenn Beck
What's the best? It's just who I am, Pat, as, as a man.
Pat
So you want to know who's the best at a really bad level is what?
Glenn Beck
Right. Like, I'm not interested in the best in the world, for example. What I'm interested in is that if you take out, you know, say, the top 20 million people in the world, maybe 50, maybe 100 million people.
Pat
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
And you say, hey, who's, who's best after that, that's where I am.
Pat
That's where you are.
Glenn Beck
That's my, that's where my interest starts peaking. Right, right around there.
Pat
That's interesting. Really is. You know, there's Been a little bit of a squabble over the last week or so because NBA players Michael Porter Jr. And Lonzo Ball, along with former pro LiAngelo Ball, shot down some claims from WNBA star Paige Buchers. Now, Paige, Paige said she could beat NBA player Josh Hart in a one on one competition.
Glenn Beck
That is literally impossible. Maybe if you had, maybe if Barack Obama was right and they amputated his feet.
Pat
I don't know about even then, I don't know, I really. He might on pegs be able to.
Glenn Beck
Still be Paige Bukers. And, and, and I'm joking at some level here, but like, yeah, Paige Bucher is incredible. Like she's an incredible player and you know, she is an amazing athlete and there's a lot of great things to say that does not mean she could beat an NBA player in one way.
Pat
No way. And that's what they said, you know, it just. No, that's silly. And so they're getting a bunch of flack. Whereas then Sophie Cunningham from the Indiana Female Weaver came out and agreed with them. And you know, she's just speaking truth here and you know she's gonna get hammered for it by her.
Glenn Beck
She doesn't seem to care though.
Pat
She doesn't.
Glenn Beck
No, I like that. She's just like, I'm just gonna say what I believe.
Pat
I like her because she's, she will do that. And she defended what's her face when she was under fire, you know, in a game.
Glenn Beck
Caitlin Clark.
Pat
Caitlin Clark, yeah.
Glenn Beck
She's like, yeah, I'm gonna step up for her no matter what.
Pat
And she, she does.
Glenn Beck
And she, she does.
Pat
And she said, this is my personal opinion, but if you're a professional football player, basketball player, you're in that elite level group, then yes, you should be able to beat girls. Like, I'm not surprised by that. So she was saying a high school male, if he's, you know, on the way to the NBA, could beat a current WNBA player. Yeah.
Glenn Beck
Yes.
Pat
And I think that's obviously true, right? Like, you know, BYU just got AJ debona last year and he's playing now this year. So he was the best player in high school. That kid could have easily beaten any WNBA player. I don't care who it is. He would have, he would beat them. And I think that's just obvious. Right. And I guess you're not supposed to say it now and you know she's going to get flown slack from other members of the wnba, but it's, it's just true. She's going to get pounded for Telling the truth. But it doesn't make any sense to try to claim otherwise. I mean, we've seen it play out in all kinds of sports. Tennis, soccer. I don't know that WNBA players have ever played anybody in the N B A. That would just be ridiculous. Yeah, but ridiculous again.
Glenn Beck
These are skilled athletes. Like they can do things and incredible things. And like, you know, if we did a two on two Pat Grace Dubergir versus Sophie Cunningham and Caitlin Clark, we would beat us back very dramatically.
Pat
Yes. We probably wouldn't score a point. But when you talk about skilled athletes.
Glenn Beck
It'S not say that no woman at any level can beat any male at any level. That's not what we're saying. But. And I think Lonzo Ball made this point in that podcast, like his team of 9th graders would be able to beat any WNBA team. And now again, he was probably a very good.
Pat
That really pisses them off.
Glenn Beck
Oh yeah. You know, but I don't think, I think it's. I don't even know if we've hit the limit. What's the limit? Like, I've talked to people. The problem is physicality.
Pat
Yeah, right.
Glenn Beck
Like you can't like if you've ever played athleticism and you're against someone who's, you know, tiny and, and skinny and is not like the difference between a fully developed male physique, even in high school is so dramatically different than what you're gonna get out of a female athlete even in the wnba.
Pat
And that's the way it's supposed to be.
Glenn Beck
You're gonna be able to bully them around and get Reba again. Unless you're having some sort of curve where the refs are calling things they wouldn't normally call. You're gonna be able to just get to the ball.
Pat
You're gonna all these rebounds dominate them.
Glenn Beck
It's gonna of bunch be a impossible for them to get rebounds. You know, that's just one part of it. There's quickness differences. I'm sorry, I think even when you're talking Division 2 and Division 3 type athletes, like I have someone who I know who played Division 3 basketball and he said, look, our Division 3 team would beat WNBA teams. And he's like, the problem with it is just you'd be able to back them down, down so easily because they're. You're just a lot stronger. Even Division 2 and 3 type athletes, again, those are very talented people as well. It's hard to get.
Pat
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
To play in Division 2 and Division 3, it's not like you're without skill.
Pat
Right.
Glenn Beck
You're probably the best player in your high school team. It's like an all star team of that from. In most areas. I don't know what the line is exactly. I think it would be fascinating to find out. I don't know why, like, why can't we just. Why doesn't, why don't we just do this?
Pat
This.
Glenn Beck
Let's do it.
Pat
Yeah, right, like there have the WNBA champion play an NBA team. Yeah, let's see it.
Glenn Beck
Let's just, let's see it. I think we even start. Do you know dude perfect. Yeah, the YouTubers, so they do, you know, famous for trick shots and you know, comedy videos and all sorts of different things. But they did one that my son was watching, this is a few months ago, and one of the guys in Dude Perfect did a challenge where he had to get a hit off of an increasingly difficult level of pitcher. Now he's a good athlete. Like Tyler is the guy who did it, but he's a good athlete.
Pat
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
And he, you know, but he's not a professional baseball player. So they started off with him versus a little league pitcher and they kept escalating it and like they needed a high school pitcher, I think, and then.
Pat
A.
Glenn Beck
College pitcher and then a major, major league pitcher. They went to, I think it was Texas Rangers camp a couple years ago and did this. And so he starts off obviously no problem hitting off of an eight year old or whatever. And like, you know, it's for comedic value. Like some of them are really easy, but as you get up at level, you're facing a high school pitcher and then a college pitcher and guy's throwing like, you know, low 80s and can he get a hit off of that person? And then he goes up against who was the closer at the time? The Rangers. But like it was really interesting to see he wound up getting a hit off of a little bloop single off of the closer of the Rangers, which is pretty impressive, honestly.
Pat
Yeah, it is.
Glenn Beck
It would be hard to do. But like, that being said, you want to talk about a way to bring in some real revenue to women's sports? I would be absolutely glued to the television if they started a wnba. It starts off with them playing like a rec team of like 8 year olds and it just slowly every week ramps up. I would watch every episode of it.
Pat
If they didn't find that in consulting. It would be fun to watch.
Glenn Beck
It would be fun.
Pat
You know, they would never do it, but it'd be fun, you know, how.
Glenn Beck
Much money they'd make probably more than their salaries in the W. Put it.
Pat
On paper, pay per view.
Glenn Beck
I'd watch, I'd pay.
Pat
Give them all the money.
Glenn Beck
When you got to the point like where. And I think the, the risk of all of this would be they would select teams. They would. There probably be things said behind the scenes, hey, don't do, don't go so hard. Let them win. God only knows what they would do to protect this idiocy of Billie Jean King that we're all supposed to still act as if was real. Yeah, the whole thing. You know the guy, you know Billie Jean King in that match? What was the guy's name? God, Bobby.
Pat
Bobby Rice.
Glenn Beck
Gosh, I'm sorry, can't think of it off the top of my head. Look that up real quick. Billie Jean King in that rat, you know, he's like 50 something years old.
Pat
Yeah, he's 54.
Glenn Beck
I mean, 54 years.
Pat
She was in the prime of her career.
Glenn Beck
Career, like. Yes. Yeah, very possible.
Pat
By the way, this goes without questionable.
Glenn Beck
About how that went down.
Pat
No, it's not Bobby Fischer.
Glenn Beck
That's the chess player. I didn't say look up any name with Bobby in it. I'm looking for the actual person who went up against Billie Jean King in the famous match.
Pat
Bobby Riggs. Bobby Riggs.
Glenn Beck
Thank you.
Pat
Yeah. And he, he actually did lose to Billie Jean King, but like a month or two before that he beat the number one player in the world, Margaret Court, which gets you really bad about.
Glenn Beck
Whether he was trying. And it does. I don't know that he was.
Pat
I don't either because there's been some speculation, lots of speculation, more than speculation that he kind of threw that. But anyway, we do have other examples of it. I mean, Serena Williams talked about it, that she would lose to Andy Murray, who at the time when she was on the Letterman show, and this was so. This was years ago, but she was number one in the world and. And Letterman was asking about her playing the number one man in the world because I guess there was some talk about this. And she said, I would never do that because Andy Marie would beat me. 0, 0. I might not score a point. And it would take five minutes, maybe 10. She said, it's just a different game that the men play. It's. They're stronger, they're faster. The ball comes at you way faster and they're more athletic. And so. So, you know, you look at soccer, the world of soccer, the best team in the world, the US Women's National Team played against teenagers multiple times, including here in Dallas. They played against a Dallas team of under 14, I think it was under 15. So it's, it's 13 and 14 and maybe some 15 year olds. And they lost five to two. They played against the Rex, some team in England during some kind of tournament and they had to stop the game because it was 12 to nothing and it was embarrassing to the women's national team. I mean, they can't compete with the men. It just, it's a real thing that exists. There are differences between men and women and you're not supposed to notice it anymore or acknowledge it, but it doesn't change the fact that it's there. And it's.
Glenn Beck
We're different and this is not important because we, hey, we're dunking on a bunch of women, either literally or figuratively. That's not what the point of this is. The point of this is we as a society have lost the ability to say true things.
Announcer
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Glenn Beck
When everyone knows something is true, every piece of evidence points one way and we will have a controversy as to whether it's true or not. Why does this happen? I know we're.
Pat
It's ridiculous.
Glenn Beck
The Internet has made us dumb. But at the end of the day, we all know certain things are true. And the fact that we can't, with all of this evidence, can't get the other side to admit this basic fact. How do you negotiate a healthcare policy? How do you negotiate what is right when it comes to tax rates? With a side that won't admit the most basic obvious thing in the world that everyone knows is true. Why can't we. If you can't bridge a gap like this? This is why I think this is such a fascinating topic. If you can't bridge a gap like this, what chance do you have can you have? You can't have a rational conversation with people who can't admit this type of stuff because of what. And these things permeate our politics in real ways. The same instinct that makes the media act as if the WNBA players could beat the NBA players. That same instinct is the same instinct that's says, well, we can't admit that a woman who says he's a man is really a woman.
Pat
Right? Right.
Glenn Beck
Because we make them feel bad or whatever.
Pat
They don't belong in a women's locker room.
Announcer
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Pat
You can't admit that.
Glenn Beck
We can't say, hey, it's wrong for a guy to have his junk out in front of a bunch of women because he's saying he's a women, we can't make that judgment. If you can't make judgments that based on really obvious things, things that the women in the locker room would say were really obvious, you really can't make any judgment as to what can you agree on. Yeah, it's crazy. If you can't agree on basic truths, you can't have basic conversations. And these are really obvious things that everyone knows. Everyone, including the left, everybody there, everyone on the left knows this is true.
Pat
Everyone knows NBA players that it's not true. They'll lie to you, but they know.
Glenn Beck
It is and tell you it's not true. They'll lie to you and tell you they think that dude who just said they're a chick today is a chick. They'll tell you that they don't actually believe it. They're lying. And if you can't bridge that gap, you can't have any conversations of value at all.
Pat
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Pat
And I'll tell you another thing that's bugging me right now and that's the press trying to make a big deal out of some health problem that apparently doesn't exist with President Trump. Have you noticed that? Oh yeah, he was just out with his grandson over the weekend showing him around the way White House and they were snapping photos of him and saying that he was dragging his left leg.
Glenn Beck
They've been doing, they've been trying this for a long time.
Pat
A long time. And then you go to the video and they included the video and he's not dragging his left leg.
Glenn Beck
Looks totally normal.
Pat
It's completely normal. I don't know how they get away with this stuff continually. These are the same people who for four years. I don't even have to finish. Right. It's for four years of the Biden administration swore up and down that he was perfectly fine. Totally fine. He's an incredible specimen.
Glenn Beck
Now they've all admitted it now.
Pat
Yes, now.
Glenn Beck
Now that it's over. They all say, oh yeah, obviously decrepit.
Pat
In every way, including mentally, total catastrophe.
Glenn Beck
But they could. And by the way, the, the same people who also were critical of Republicans for pointing out that Hillary Clinton was having health issues.
Pat
Oh, yeah.
Glenn Beck
Which by the way, she wasn't. They weren't as pronounced. Terminal is not the right word for Biden, but that's the one I want to use pronounced as it may be as long lasting or whatever it was with Hillary. But she did have a real bout with something. Obviously she was collapsing, trying to get.
Pat
Into a car and the coughing and.
Glenn Beck
All of that speeches. She had a rough batch. Look, that's totally, it's fine to talk about that. You can bring up if you think that Donald Trump has a health problem. What's really frustrating to me about it is the same thing we talked about when it comes to political violence and the same thing we talked about about the DOJ going after their enemies. They are asking us to completely forget everything we know about them. Everything that they've said over the past decade about how they there it was off limits to go after a president's health. Like now we're just supposed to totally forget it.
Pat
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
They didn't say any of that stuff. What if we act as if none of those days occurred and they keep demanding this out of us.
Pat
Yeah. And to try to make some sort of health issue out of President Trump walking just normally with his grandson is just, it's so pathetic. Pathetic and so disingenuous. It's surprising that they provide the video. I guess they think that if they put that in your head initially that he's dragging his leg and if there's any sort of movement that isn't exactly what you think it's going to be, that then you'll think, yeah, he's dragging his leg. I, I don't know. Maybe they think they can Subliminally tell you that.
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Pat
But then you see the evidence that he's not. Not. It's. It's frustrating.
Glenn Beck
It's a bizarre situation. I also say, look, President Trump. I don't. I don't know. President Trump's health. Exactly. I don't think any of us do. But I will. You know, he's a. He's a man in his 70s.
Pat
79.
Glenn Beck
79 years old.
Pat
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
And he's. I wouldn't say in the. In perfect physical shape. That being said, I think he's really impressive how much and how the energy level that he has.
Pat
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
On a day to day basis, the guy rarely sleeps.
Pat
I don't have energy than I do. Oh, way more.
Glenn Beck
Wait, why did you say that so convincingly? You were very convinced that I have no energy. It seemed there, which is fair. Yeah, it's just fair. It's just nonsense. More of it. More of the same.
Pat
This is Glenn Beck.
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Triple eight seven two seven Beck. Welcome. Great divi work.
Glenn Beck
Thanks, Pat. Appreciate that. Excited about it. Please yourself. Wait, what?
Pat
What? You can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself? I don't know. Went to a garden party. Ricky Nelson. Thank you for that.
Glenn Beck
Okay, just general advice for the holidays or just generally.
Pat
Yeah, yeah, Just a good safety tip. You can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself. I think that goes with the. The Megan Trader story, Right. Meghan Trainor is getting all kinds of flack right now, all kinds of hate online.
Glenn Beck
Because the singer. Right?
Pat
Yeah, yeah, Right. Because she lost weight.
Glenn Beck
Oh, no.
Pat
And people are pissed off about it.
Glenn Beck
And she's like, how dare you?
Pat
Well, I'm just trying to take care of myself and my body. Is that. Why would you have a problem with that? It please everyone. You gotta please yourself.
Glenn Beck
There is something where they're, like, in pop culture, I guess there is a weird, like, ownership that fans seem to think they have over the people who are celebrities, I guess. Did you watch the John Candy documentary that came out recently? It's on Prime. Did you guys see that?
Pat
I don't think I have.
Glenn Beck
It's called I Like Me, it's called. Which is a line from Planes, Trains and Automobiles, I believe.
Pat
Oh.
Glenn Beck
And they go through the history, you know, John Candy and his rise and, you know, his untimely death. Spoiler alert.
Pat
Wait. John Candy died?
Glenn Beck
Wait, hold on. Well, he's.
Pat
What?
Glenn Beck
He's very sick.
Pat
Okay.
Glenn Beck
And now he's.
Pat
He's.
Glenn Beck
We've lost.
Pat
Just like that.
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Pat
I'm sorry. Wow. That happened quickly.
Glenn Beck
But he seems like the great. Like, everyone thought he was the greatest guy of all time, basically, is the doc. The entire documentary is. We really liked John Candy, and it seems like that was the thing. But often he would be questioned in interviews, like, so you're really fat. Do you like being really fat? And they kept playing the clips, and it was so intrusive. And he's like, well, you know, I mean, I. I'd like to be a little healthier, but, you know, he was always very nice to the people that asked him, and. And he was somehow respectful in those moments, which was kind of what they.
Pat
Were playing hard to do.
Glenn Beck
They were playing hard to do, Right? Like, hey, fatso was basically every other interview with the guy. But part of it was. And it was the same thing with Farley, Chris Farley, where it's almost like, no, you're fat. You're just gonna be fat. Cause you're funnier fat. So be fat. Stay fat.
Pat
Right?
Glenn Beck
You know, and, you know, a lot of times, like, your health. This is another thing that we can't admit in this.
Pat
You can't say that anymore.
Glenn Beck
You're not allowed to say that.
Pat
That it's healthier to. To be thinner.
Glenn Beck
Even though every piece of evidence that we have at Least at a certain level, because you can. You could actually have a little meat on your bones and not. It won't necessarily affect your longevity all that much, but when you get to a certain level, it becomes a real problem.
Pat
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
You know.
Pat
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
And you can. There are a lot of benefits as well.
Pat
You might notice something about John Candy and Chris Farley is a surprise. Wait, we lost them both? Chris?
Glenn Beck
We lost Farley?
Pat
Yeah, yeah, we did.
Glenn Beck
The actor.
Pat
You know what? He's not feeling. Feeling very good.
Glenn Beck
Oh, okay.
Pat
He died. So.
Glenn Beck
Wait.
Pat
Yeah. Really?
Glenn Beck
That quick? What was.
Pat
We lost him.
Glenn Beck
Wow. I wasn't prepared for that at all.
Pat
He wasn't healthy. I'm sorry. No, he was not healthy.
Glenn Beck
I think he was. Candy had, according to the documentary, had a. Like a family history of heart issues. And that's likely what. You know, that was all more hereditary where Farley took a lot of different substances and lived a very hard life. I think Candy did as well. Some. I think it was alcohol.
Pat
He had some issues with that. I think so. Yeah. But little substance abuse there with both of them.
Glenn Beck
Yeah. It's tough to live that life and you live hard and you're a big guy like that. It doesn't usually. You usually have high numbers after the. Died at date. Yeah, like, it's. It gets a little unfortunate there, but I don't know. I think that's turning around in the country. I know the president made a big announcement about some of these drugs that are out there now. There's a whole new generation of them coming out that are helping people lose weight and all of this.
Pat
I don't know.
Glenn Beck
I think we've seen a real turnaround. Have you looked at the numbers of just the United States and obesity levels?
Pat
Are they going down? Yeah, they're starting to go down.
Glenn Beck
Finally. It looks like we finally peaked. Yeah, we finally have moved off.
Pat
Well, we peaked from everyone. From all of us. Sorry. All of us are overweight. You can't go anywhere but down from there. But it was. What. What is the percentage? Like 50, 40%?
Glenn Beck
It was. So I think, if I'm remembering off the top of my head, it was 30% in like the turn of the century obesity and rose all the way to 40 and it's dropped down. I think we've dropped down a couple of percent. So it's. It's not at all clear that they.
Pat
Attribute that to Ozempic and partially.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, there's a lot of factors, I guess, at play. You know, I mean, I think, you know, some people would think, oh, Maybe the Maha thing is part of it, right? Like, maybe people are trying to turn that around. I don't know. You know, some of that obviously isn't related to weight, but some of it is. You know, maybe there's. Everyone wants to be an Instagram model. Maybe that's, that's what everyone these days is doing. But I think largely, I would say it's the GLP1 class of drugs that is responsible for it and it seems to be headed in the right direction. We don't know if that's going to be a long term win for the country, but we do know that there's a study that came out the other day that was talking about how the medications are helping bad heart related outcomes even when you're not losing losing weight. One of the theories at the beginning was, okay, you're gonna lose a bunch of weight, of course your health is gonna get better and your heart is gonna improve. They're saying that's happening even for people that don't lose weight on it.
Pat
Wow.
Glenn Beck
They're still having good heart benefits from these things. Yeah, seems to have a lot of.
Pat
Things it does are pretty amazing.
Glenn Beck
Pretty amazing. And you know, look, some people don't like them and some people don't.
Pat
And supposedly there are some side effects.
Glenn Beck
I mean, I think everything has, there's trade offs with everything. I say suppose aspirin side effects. Again, you might not like it. You might be worried about longer term issues, which a lot of people do. And that's a tough one to breach because it's like, well, depending on how long you drag out that timeline, these drugs have been around for a long time in some form or another. It just was used for diabetes patients for a big chunk of that time. So a lot of those people have been on these drugs for a very long time. We have a pretty long record on them. But you might say, what if it's 50 years? What if it's 80 years of taking them and then it turns into a bad thing? At that point though, you get into a place where it's almost hard to use anything that's new. Any new discovery, you can always say that about there's some timeline where at some point in the distant future that it could turn negative. It's hard to know that until you go through multiple generations of people. So at some point you're just kind of turning off the entire faucet of innovation, which I don't think that's necessarily a good thing.
Pat
Not a good thing as well.
Glenn Beck
It's good to balance those concerns, though.
Pat
I would suppose Meghan Trainor says that a lot of people are upset because she did that song all about the Bass, you know, which apparently.
Glenn Beck
Without trouble.
Pat
Right? Without trouble.
Glenn Beck
Lower treble.
Pat
About the bass.
Glenn Beck
About the bass. Not have any trouble.
Pat
No trouble.
Glenn Beck
But she does have considerable bass, but zero treble.
Pat
No trouble. Yeah, exactly. And she said, like, I was 19 when I did that song. Changed.
Glenn Beck
You just lock them in 19.
Pat
I'm not all about the base for the rest of my life necessarily.
Glenn Beck
Right.
Pat
If you don't know who she is, She's. She's. You've no doubt seen the State Farm commercial, right, with her and Patrick Mahomes.
Glenn Beck
Where I don't know that I have seen the State Farm commercial.
Pat
Seen the State Farm commercial, I don't think.
Glenn Beck
Really?
Pat
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
I mean, maybe I just didn't know who she was. I know her. I know that song, the bass slash treble.
Pat
And she sings it in the. In the commercial. You'd probably recognize it and in. Probably would. She's. She's. They compare her to a different trainer, like an athletic trainer. And what you're getting is Megan Trainor, who does the song all about the Bass.
Glenn Beck
I have seen some in this selection. This. This run of ads that I've seen this where they substitute the celebrity.
Pat
And then she obviously doesn't know what she's doing. And she tries to put some kind of leg brace on Patrick Mahomes arm. He says, not for that. And then she says, who are you again? And he says, I'm. I'm Patrick. I. I play football. She's like, give it up for Patrick, everybody. He does sports, actually. A funny, funny spot.
Glenn Beck
But I do think that is a real thing we do with celebrities and that we just like lock them into that early thing, whatever we know them for.
Pat
Yes. And then they must be that for the rest of their lives. Yeah, exactly. And apparently she's not into that because she. She did lose some of the bass and is a little bit about the trouble now, I think. I think there's a little trouble going.
Glenn Beck
There's a little trouble. Congratulations. Congratulations.
Pat
Yeah. Yeah.
Glenn Beck
I do think the. This happens with celebrities all the time. Like, the example I always think about is Fiona Apple.
Pat
Remember her?
Glenn Beck
She was a singer.
Pat
You know, you've always been a big. I'm a fan.
Glenn Beck
I'm a fan. And I always felt like she got the. You know, because she an excellent writer and, you know, she's. I'm a fan. But so anyway, the important part of the story, I suppose Is that she made a speech when she won this award and she kind of was like, you know, it was in the. It was in the 90s, and everyone was like, you know, in that era where everyone was sort of like, it was cool to be negative about things. And, you know, and she said something on the stage of like, you know, this world is BS or something like that. And, you know, and everyone's like, gosh, they. Every article about her for the next 20 years brings up this speech she made when she won, I don't know, best album or whatever it was, and our best new song, I think it was that she won the MTV Music awards. She was 19 at the time.
Pat
She made that.
Glenn Beck
Now it's very popular. Possible that her world view now, I don't know that it's gotten any better over the years. You know, again, she's an artist, but still, a speech you make when you're 19 years old should not be brought up in every single article about you for multiple decades.
Pat
Yeah, maybe it let it go after six months.
Glenn Beck
So what if she made a dumb, cynical point about the world when she was 19 years old?
Pat
Right.
Glenn Beck
You know, same thing that. This is part. It's, in a way, it's like, it's cousins with the woke phenomenon where like every time there's like a new, you know, some quarterback gets drafted, they're like, did you know when he was 14, he made an insensitive joke? Like, okay, he made an insensitive joke about Asians when he was 11. I don't think Asians mind. I think they're all just like, you know, I. I'm going to speak for all Asians here, despite not being Asian, and say that they're not all that upset that some random 11 year old made a joke about them. They're probably just gonna move on with their lives. But, like, that's what we're supposed to do, right? We're supposed to get all upset and go back in their history and say.
Pat
Well, what did they never let it go.
Glenn Beck
What did they think when they were in seventh grade? Where were they appropriately balanced and nuanced in their worldview when they were in seventh grade? Probably not. They probably didn't know much about anything. Yeah, you know, that's probably, probably what the case was. Maybe we should just all like, relax about it a little bit.
Pat
That'd be nice. It's not gonna happen, but it would be nice. Triple eight, seven, two, seven. Beck.
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Glenn Beck
Huge investigation by the Washington Free Beacon has come out. And this is about something we talked about at this time yesterday. Jasmine Crockett and you know, she came out and she like her, she put her team to work. They did a deep dive on Jeffrey Epstein and uncovered that Jeffrey Epstein had donated to many Republicans.
Pat
No.
Glenn Beck
Yeah. And we now have information from the Washington Freebies Beacon. Democratic Representative Johnny Dupree received donations from Jeffrey Dahmer. Confirmed.
Pat
Jeffrey Dahmer.
Glenn Beck
Jeffrey Dahmer.
Pat
Okay. The Jeffrey Dahmer Act Blue.
Glenn Beck
You know, the Democratic group received donations from Ted Bundy.
Pat
Okay.
Glenn Beck
Richard Ramirez donated to the Democratic senatorial campaign. Charles Manson to a Democratic representative. Steve G. Wow. How about this one? This one's surprising to me. Look, I was a little. This is Bernie Sanders 2020 campaign received a donation from. It was only $1, so we shouldn't overstate it. But I was surprised Adolf Hitler was making any donations, frankly in 2020.
Pat
But apparently did it does seem unlikely.
Glenn Beck
Right now I'm not. I'm less surprised that Peter Hitler donated to many Democrats, including Joe Biden and Kirsten Gillibrand.
Pat
There really are people with the name Hitler.
Glenn Beck
How do you not change it? How do you change it? I don't know how.
Pat
Yeah. I just don't care what it costs or the argument kind of hassle you have to go through. You change your name from Hitler and.
Glenn Beck
I could see saying, like, look, I'm not related to the guy. I want to make take maintain the history of my family name. But do you.
Pat
No. No, I really don't. No. I don't want to explain that to everybody. It's not the Hitler family. This is a different. This is the Idaho Hitlers. Oh, okay.
Glenn Beck
Are you surprised about this, Pat? There's man been in the news quite a bit lately. Nick Fuentes donated to Kamala Harris for senate.
Pat
Wow.
Glenn Beck
In 2019.
Pat
Wow.
Glenn Beck
Surprise.
Pat
That seems unlikely.
Glenn Beck
I was surprised about Craig Hosmer receiving this donation from Muhammad Adam. That sounds terrible. But I was less, I will say less surprised by that than I was by Barack Obama and Mark Warner, the Democratic senator, receiving donations in the amount of $250 to Warner. $500 to Barack Obama from John Wilkes Booth.
Pat
Wow. Wow. An s. A presidential assassin. Yes. Yeah. Is donating to their campaigns and they didn't turn down those.
Glenn Beck
They never have to answer for that.
Pat
No. Wow. Wow. Now these are the all of the people. Right. That you expect them to be. I mean, it is the John Wilkes Booth. Right.
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Glenn Beck
Our team just did a deep dive on it.
Pat
Oh, okay.
Glenn Beck
So I, I, you know, it was a Peter Hitler. We just don't know Peter. What did you say? You never said it. I always tried to decide it maybe mislead anybody.
Pat
Wow. This is glenn, becky.
Title: Are Russia & Ukraine FINALLY Nearing a Peace Deal?
Date: November 25, 2025
Hosts: Pat and Stu (for Glenn Beck)
Podcast: The Glenn Beck Program
This episode, hosted by Pat and Stu filling in for Glenn Beck, covers a range of current political topics with their trademark sarcastic wit and conservative commentary. Major discussions include recent legal dramas involving James Comey and Letitia James, the congressional probe into Senator Mark Kelly's military video, the state of American healthcare and GOP responses to Obamacare subsidies, plus speculation over an emerging peace agreement between Russia and Ukraine. The show also touches on pop culture debates, issues of truth in society, and media hypocrisy, keeping a conversational and humorous tone throughout.
This episode of The Glenn Beck Program (hosted by Pat and Stu) delivers a rapid-fire, satirical rundown of current events in US politics, international affairs, and cultural controversies. The hosts combine serious policy analysis (particularly regarding the DOJ, healthcare, and the Ukraine war) with biting humor, lampooning both opponent and ally foibles. They explore why policy change is so hard, how the media frames narratives, and what happens when society leaves obvious truths unspoken—or just outright lies about them.
The episode stands out for its blend of substantive analysis and comedic cultural commentary, as well as its focus on hypocrisy, process over substance, and the dangers of a society that can’t agree on basic reality.