Podcast Summary: The Glenn Beck Program

Episode: "Behold: The WORST Politician Ever"
Guests: Jack Carr & Kristen Waggoner
Date: October 8, 2025
Host: Glenn Beck
Blaze Podcast Network

Main Theme & Episode Overview

Glenn Beck delivers a signature mix of social commentary, current events analysis, and interviews, focusing this episode on the disintegration of civil discourse in American politics, threats to free speech, cultural and legal battles over gender ideology, freedom of religion, and the impact of leadership failures—punctuated by an in-depth author interview (Jack Carr) and a notable legal update (Kristen Waggoner of Alliance Defending Freedom). The episode’s centerpiece is a skewering of California gubernatorial candidate Katie Porter’s televised meltdown, which Beck presents as the epitome of political incompetence and arrogance.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Cultural and Political Climate

• On Growing Illiberalism and Double Standards

  • Beck laments rising censorship, media bias, and ideological speech codes, noting:

    "We push back against the lies, the censorship, the nonsense of the mainstream media..." (01:17, Glenn Beck)

  • Contrasts left-wing protest permissiveness with legal cases restricting Christian counselors from gender-related speech (see below).

• Pro-Hamas Demonstrations in NYC

  • Disturbed by displays of Hamas and Islamic Jihad flags in New York:

    "...Americans engaging in standing up and waving Islamic Jihad flags. Look at the size of this crowd in New York. I will never look at the Palestinian flag again the same way..." (05:54, Glenn Beck)

  • Connects Bible prophecy and symbolism to current events.

• Limits of Free Speech—Supreme Court Case

  • Colorado bans "conversion therapy" for minors; Beck argues this criminalizes basic Christian beliefs and restricts freedom of religion and speech.
  • Beck issues a warning about future censorship:

    "There will come a time, because all of this stuff comes from the Bible, there will come a time where I can’t have the freedom of speech to say those things... That’s what’s in front of the Supreme Court yesterday." (11:19, Glenn Beck)

2. SUPREME COURT AND GENDER COUNSELING

[25:15–33:53]

Guest: Kristen Waggoner — CEO, Alliance Defending Freedom

• Colorado’s Law & Free Speech
  • Law allows counselors to affirm gender transition for minors but forbids counseling them to remain aligned with biological sex—questioned as "viewpoint discrimination."
  • Waggoner:

    "The real issue is, does this violate the First Amendment? Is it viewpoint discrimination because one side is favored over another? And can the state peer into a counseling room and interfere in a private conversation?" (26:27, Waggoner)

  • If upheld, this law could spread to churches, private schools, even affect parental speech.
• Legal & Societal Implications
  • 90% of children with gender dysphoria would resolve naturally with supportive care; 97% of those socially transitioned face irreversible harm, becoming long-term medical patients.
  • "Any practice ... that would seek to change an identity ... including minimizing or changing gender expression, gender attractions or sexual feelings ... you simply can’t have a conversation that would do any of those things without violating the law." (31:22, Waggoner)

3. California Governor Race – The Katie Porter Meltdown

[48:17–54:22]

• Katie Porter's Interview Collapse
  • Beck plays and dissects an interview in which CA gubernatorial candidate Katie Porter berates a reporter for asking routine questions.
  • Porter refuses to answer about appealing to GOP/Trump voters, grows hostile, abruptly leaves:

    "I don’t want to keep doing this. I’m going to call it. Thank you." (49:59, Katie Porter)

• Public Reactions & Analysis
  • Beck and co-host Stu note Porter's inability to handle unscripted questions illustrates left-wing politicians’ media bubble and brittle intolerance:

    "She asked one minor follow up question... and she pulls the plug on the interview ... you can't handle that, sweetheart, you can't handle anything." (51:56, Stu)

  • Porter's "rage-prone" reputation corroborated by staffer anecdotes, long-buried by the press.

4. Media Bias & Information Silos

• Beck rails against mainstream outlets for insulating liberal audiences from stories or narratives that don’t fit their worldview:

  "There are stories that just don’t hit that side. They have no idea ... they don't listen to anything else..." (55:31, Glenn Beck)

• Uses the case of false news about a judge’s house fire as an example of left-wing “zombification” by repeated misinformation.

5. Gold Prices as Economic Warning

[25:15, 68:32]

• Gold surges past $4,058/oz; Beck interprets this as a harbinger of a loss in global faith in the U.S. dollar and impending economic crisis:

  “Gold being at $4,100 an ounce…should tell you all you need to know. Pay attention to what the central banks are doing. The same central banks are hiding the fact that they’re buying gold.” (68:32, Glenn Beck)

• Blames government overspending, looming shutdown, and central bank actions for the trend.

6. Jack Carr Interview: 'Cry Havoc' and the Legacy of the Vietnam War

[89:22–108:05]

About "Cry Havoc" (Terminal List Series, set in Vietnam War era)

• Writing Historical Fiction
  • Carr immersed himself in the period, researching vernacular, weaponry, and perspectives:

    "I really wanted to do was set an espionage story in Southeast Asia in 1968 ... which was the bloodiest year of the war." (91:11, Jack Carr)

  • Explores the perspectives of Americans, Soviets, Vietnamese, and Washington officials “through the lens of 1968,” without modern hindsight.
• Societal and Military Parallels
  • Draws parallels between Afghanistan/Iraq and Vietnam, emphasizing that America repeatedly fails to digest the correct lessons from past conflicts.
• Impact of Technology and Loss
  • Carr and Beck reflect on today’s youth experiencing tragedy in real time (Charlie Kirk assassination, etc.), how this generation’s grief is reshaping faith and civic engagement.

    "It’s amazing to me ... how he can take the very worst things and make something glorious is amazing." (100:42, Glenn Beck)

• Reading as Resistance
  • Carr promotes reading (especially fiction) as an act of empathy and defiance against digital atomization:

    "Reading now is an act of defiance, really. If you pull out a book instead of pulling out a phone, like, you’re a rebel today." (104:38, Jack Carr)

7. Other Noteworthy Segments

• AI & Alien Conspiracy Media

  • Glenn and Stu riff about a newly-detected interstellar object (the "Three Eye Atlas"), joking about world leaders perhaps using "aliens" to unite the public or justify digital identification (37:28–43:33).

• Healthcare Debate & GOP Messaging Failure

  • Obamacare’s COVID “enhanced subsidies” expiring; Beck laments GOP absence of a free-market healthcare plan.
  • Marjorie Taylor Greene bucks party leadership, advocating for extending subsidies due to their popular necessity, highlighting the ideological incoherence within the conservative movement (117:57–123:29).

Notable Quotes

• Glenn Beck on Censorship:

  “There will come a time, because all of this stuff comes from the Bible, there will come a time where I can’t have the freedom of speech to say those things... That’s what’s in front of the Supreme Court yesterday.” (11:19)

• Kristen Waggoner on Viewpoint Discrimination:

  “Does this violate the First Amendment? Is it viewpoint discrimination because one side is favored over another?” (26:27)

• Jack Carr on Learning from History:

  “We didn’t really listen to those [Afghanistan/Vietnam] lessons and apply them in present day as wisdom... we tend to do that over and over and over again.” (92:34)

• Glenn Beck on Political Change:

  “We are in such a weird place to where we swing so far one direction, and then the next administration just swing all the way back. You can’t run a country like that.” (97:17)

• Jack Carr on Reading:

  “Reading now is an act of defiance, really... It’s an act of defiance against the digital tyranny of the Silicon Valley overlords.” (104:38)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [05:54] Pro-Hamas, Islamic Jihad flags in NYC: Bible symbolism and American protest culture
• [11:19] Beck’s warning on the future of Bible-derived speech being deemed hate speech
• [26:13] Kristen Waggoner on SCOTUS oral arguments for counselor free speech
• [48:17] Katie Porter interview meltdown audio and analysis
• [68:32] Beck’s deep dive on gold as economic warning
• [89:22] Jack Carr in-studio: Vietnam fiction and generational lessons
• [104:38] Carr’s plea for reading as cultural resistance
• [117:57] Marjorie Taylor Greene and GOP’s lack of healthcare messaging

Memorable Moments

• Katie Porter's disastrous press interview (49:59, audio walkthrough)
• Beck’s analogy: trusting central banks about gold is like not noticing the rich evacuate during the Great Depression (68:32)
• Carr’s account of writing historical fiction "in the moment" vs. with hindsight (94:40)
• Candid on-air banter lampooning the “AI-driven alien threat” media cycle (37:28)
• Beck’s Jefferson paraphrase: “The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but social media.” (106:18)

Tone and Style

Glenn Beck’s delivery throughout is passionate, hyperbolic, urgent, and deeply personal—mixing humor and dismay, alternating between citations of historical precedent, personal narrative, cultural alarms, and biting media criticism. The guests are thoughtful and earnest; Carr is erudite and reflective, Waggoner laser-focused and informed.

Conclusion

The episode exemplifies the Beck Program’s blend of alarm about societal decline, polemic against political and media adversaries, exploration of legal developments impacting speech and faith, and, in the author segment, a poignant meditation on the enduring lessons of war and the power of stories. The “worst politician ever” theme is crystallized by Katie Porter’s self-implosion, serving as a metaphor for leadership disconnected from reality—while deeper currents of institutional distrust, generational anxiety, and the search for hope in faith and tradition persist as through-lines.

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