Glenn Beck (2:51)

Wow. I mean, you gotta raise your standards there. My wife doesn't even dream about me.

Paul (PhD student caller) (2:56)

Yeah, well, now here's calling. Well, I better. I better jump on us. So what we talked about in the phone call was George Washington. I'm actually writing my PhD dissertation on George Washington. And I never had a mixture of excitement and heartbreak when I heard about Georgia because I was so thrilled about it. But then I was heartbroken that I wasn't involved in it. And so I'm just calling about that because I don't know when you're dreaming about Glenn Beck in the phone call, you know, I just jumped on it, so.

Glenn Beck (3:27)

Well, okay. So, Paul, you're getting your PhD in history and specifically with George Washington or just. That's your final paper.

Paul (PhD student caller) (3:38)

My focus is early American history. My dissertation is on George Washington.

Glenn Beck (3:44)

That is fabulous. And what did you come away thinking about George Washington? Learning about George Washington?

Paul (PhD student caller) (3:52)

Well, I grew up in Pittsburgh, so Washington is all over the Pittsburgh area because of the French Navy war.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (3:58)

Yeah.

Paul (PhD student caller) (3:59)

You kind of wonder how much of it is legend and how much of it is true. And then the more you look into it, you realize these things weren't written about him after or during the Revolution to, you know, pump him up. These things actually written minutes or weeks after it happened. Where pastors like Samuel Davies is writing after the Battle of Monongahela, this man might be being saved for our future purpose. And that's stuff that's happening 20 years before the revolution. The more, you know, the more odd spot.

Glenn Beck (4:29)

Go ahead. It is. Isn't it amazing? You look at George Washington and I can't believe we lie about his teeth. We lie about. We lie about the cherry tree. When he is the most honest, a forthright and heroic guy, I think, in all of American history. I mean, he is one of a kind. And we lie about him. And we don't talk about all the things that happened that are absolutely real and just confounding. Miraculously.

Paul (PhD student caller) (5:07)

Miraculous is a correct term. It's shocking when you think of all of the Instance where his life. I knew you had Celine Zito a couple months ago, and she was talking about the incident in Butler where he was shot out. He was 21 years old. A bullet flies in between him and a guide inches away.

Anthony (Caller from Georgia) (5:25)

I mean, the.

Paul (PhD student caller) (5:27)

It's not just American history that's altered. If he's. If he dies before the war, everything world history is altered.

Glenn Beck (5:31)

Yeah, I know. So what is the worst thing you could find about George Washington? I could only find that his mother said that he ate a lot of ice cream and it was too extravagant.

Paul (PhD student caller) (5:43)

His mother's not a good judge of character. I mean, she's not the best.

Glenn Beck (5:46)

Not at all. No one through life, you know, more you learn about her, the more I think. George Washington's mom. Oh, yes. Probably sounded a little like that. You know what I mean?

Paul (PhD student caller) (5:59)

Through the century.

Glenn Beck (6:00)

She's not a likable person.

Paul (PhD student caller) (6:02)

Yeah. It's probably why he went on an adventure so early. Just to get out of the house. She kind of chased him out.

Glenn Beck (6:09)

Yes. Yes. What's the worst thing you learned about him?

Paul (PhD student caller) (6:13)

I don't know. It's hard to. When you. It's hard to find the dark when the light is so bright with him.

Anthony (Caller from Georgia) (6:20)

I mean, the.

Paul (PhD student caller) (6:22)

Are you aware that one of the reasons that he ended slavery. I mean, ended his own personal favor, was a dream that he had that he was being not aware of that stream. And he. He. He told her, I'm rewriting the will. And that's when he's on his deathbed. He brings out the two wills and he brings out the new will that he. That he wrote that frees his. That frees the slaves. After he had this dream, I.

Glenn Beck (6:48)

Where did you get. What source is that?

Paul (PhD student caller) (6:51)

That is in a book called Imperfect God.

Glenn Beck (6:56)

I have to tell you. Have you seen original sources on it? I mean, is it quoting where it's coming from?

Paul (PhD student caller) (7:03)

Yeah, it does quote. It does quote where it's at. I don't. I mean, I have the book on my desk here, but where it's from.

Glenn Beck (7:08)

Yeah. So, Paul, you know, I would really love to get your information. Put him on hold and get his information. And he should go over to. I mean, he had a dream. I mean, we should at least pursue this to see if there's anything there. Seeing. Seeing that we're building George AI. And that's what you're. You're all about. You know that it is. If you can get through college and you want to learn history. I don't know how, you know, I don't know How Paul did it and made it with his, with his brain, not just jello, you know, because when you go, this is the difference between, look, George AI is not going to be, it's not going to be complete for a long time. It has, there's just too much in there. But it is going to be a, a doorway into learning about the founders in their own words with the founding documents. You know, when you go to a university or you learn from history in class, you're, you're, you're, you're trained to quote the interpreters of history, not understand the originators. Instead of reading Madison, you're standing there and you're sitting there and you're listening to a teacher or a professor trying to explain what Madison really meant. Well, why don't I just go to Madison? I don't want the modern context. I want it in his writings. Can you imagine a hundred years from now, Trump, Trump in the history books. How do you think that guy's going to be remembered with historians? How are they going to get. We can't even. Half the country doesn't even know who he is. Half the country. And they're watching him in real time. What's the difference? They're not actually watching or listening. They're listening to the interpreters. If you actually listen to him, if you actually watch him, you learn. That's a completely different guy. There's a show going on and there's things that he does that I don't necessarily like, but that's not who he is. That's not what he's doing. That's, that's why first sources are so important. You know, you're not learning the interpretation. When you read about Washington and the Farewell Address and Lincoln's second inaugural, you see men who believed that truth existed outside of them, moral and divine, and it was outside of them. Universities are also teaching that. You know, I don't know. Truth is in you. It's your truth. No, no real truth is outside of me. I don't know how Paul made it through without hating America, you know, because usually you are taught that the, the founders were hypocrites and you're not reading the original sources. When you read the Federalist Papers, when you actually read the words of Frederick Douglass, not the interpretation of Frederick Douglass, but you read the words of Frederick Douglass, you see a guy who's really struggling, trying to figure it out. Not a perfect guy. Same with Lincoln. Not perfect. Same with the founders. Not perfect.

Paul (PhD student caller) (10:56)

The.

Glenn Beck (10:56)

They're really struggling, and that's not even understood. I don't think in today's world, the struggle for truth, the struggle for thinking, you're not taught to critically think anymore. You know, you're conform, conform, conform. Write this down, kids. It'll be on the test. Parroting is what they want. You decide to go your own way. You decide to dissent and go, no, I don't think that's what it meant. Good luck getting in that grade. And I think also universities, when you're learning history, I mean, look, if you want to be a teacher, you got to go to university. You got to get the. You got to get the ticket. But, boy, I don't know how you do it. I don't know how you do it, because one of the things that happens is they strip you of awe. They strip you of the awe. He still had the awe of George Washington. He still was holding on to. No, you don't have any idea. He's on the battlefield of Butler, Pennsylvania, and bullets are whizzing by him. He walks off the battlefield and he's got holes in his coat, but he's fine. There's an awe to that. How did that happen? How can this guy ride? He's like 6 4. The average man is 5, 6. He's 6 4. And he. So he's a giant of a man. And he's riding these big white stallions, and he's going right up to the front, and he's never wounded, he's never hit. People say over and over again, I had him in my sights. I had him dead to rights. I pull the trigger. He doesn't fall. It misses him. I mean, there's some awe to that. And it's for you to figure out. These are the kinds of things I hope we are going to be teaching through my AI project. It's the Torch debuts in January, and I have used it. It's still in beta testing. I mean, we have. I'm a little nervous. A little nervous because we're building something that nobody has built before, and. And I just want it to be just right for you. I want you to be able to. You know, one of the first things. I'll give you address sometimes, maybe today, probably tomorrow, I'll give you an address where you can write your questions. You would say, glenn, this is what I want to learn from the Torch. These are the questions I would have for the founders. I really want to understand civics or I need to learn the Bill of Rights and how did that happen, Whatever it is you want to learn about Especially founding. The founding of the country. And then anything you want to learn about in the news. I'm going to give you an address tomorrow and I want you to write to me and tell me so we can make sure that we have these things really ready for you in January. Because I think the pressure is on to get moving here. Get moving, lots to do, little time. Let me tell you about Good Ranchers. Every country has a soundtrack. Ours used to be really simple. The clink of branding irons, the hum of truck engines, the rhythm of work boots in the dirt. Sound of America making its own food, honest, local, strong. But somewhere along the way, that music got drowned up by imports and corporate noise. Beef isn't ours. Chickens come from God only knows where. And the people who built this country got pushed out of the story. Somehow or another, Good Ranchers is bringing that sound back. Every box they ship is 100% American meat raised here, processed here, and packed by people who still believe in doing things the right way. Every order is a note in the song worth saving. One of us, One of us each of us belongs to it. Shop America's best meat. Visit goodranchers.com start your subscription today, and if you order before December 1st, use the promo code BECK and you're a new subscriber. You get $100 off your first three orders, plus free meat for life. That's promo code BECK. $100 off plus free meat for life@goodranchers.com Good ranchers. Let's get back to the American table. Now back to the podcast. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. 888-727-BECK Taking your phone calls. Let's go to Anthony in Georgia. Hello, Anthony. Welcome.

Anthony (Caller from Georgia) (15:50)

Hey, Glenn. First off, I just wanted to say I'm a Democrat and I've been listening for almost 10 years, if you can believe that. Wow.

Glenn Beck (15:59)

Good for you.

Anthony (Caller from Georgia) (16:00)

Yeah.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (16:00)

You're not allowed.

Paul (PhD student caller) (16:01)

Wait, wait.

Glenn Beck (16:01)

How many days do you. How many days are you. I mean, you're into S and M. I don't know. I mean, how many days do you just shake your head and go, my God, I can't. What am I doing this for?

Anthony (Caller from Georgia) (16:12)

It's. It's every day, Glenn.

Glenn Beck (16:14)

It's every day.

Paul (PhD student caller) (16:15)

Okay?

Glenn Beck (16:17)

Do we agree on anything?

Anthony (Caller from Georgia) (16:20)

We agree on a few things. I'm not going to say that it's complete disagreement, but a lot of times I end up pulling my hair.

Glenn Beck (16:26)

Okay, Is there a just one more question? I'm sorry, I know you're the one calling in, but I have so many questions. For you?

Stu (Co-host or producer) (16:32)

Yeah.

Glenn Beck (16:34)

Why do you listen Glutton for punishment or.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (16:38)

Or what?

Glenn Beck (16:39)

Why?

Anthony (Caller from Georgia) (16:40)

If it's being. If I'm being completely honest, I don't really have many conservatives in my life that I can talk to about stuff like this. So I really like to get that perspective from you and just kind of see what I love you thinking, that's great.

Glenn Beck (16:52)

Yeah, that is great.

Anthony (Caller from Georgia) (16:53)

Problem is, I can't usually get answers to questions that I, like, want. Like, I'll be screaming at the. At the radio thinking, like, oh, but what about this? What about that?

Glenn Beck (17:02)

All right, well, let's go. Let's go for it. You know, the other option was, and I thought it was probably a better, you know, a more likely option, maybe you were a paraplegic and somebody had left the radio on that really did not like you, and you're like, in the room going, I can't change the dial anyway. Go ahead, Anthony.

Paul (PhD student caller) (17:20)

Right.

Anthony (Caller from Georgia) (17:22)

So what I wanted to talk about was your take on the Jim McKimmel suspension way back when. I don't think you really came down hard enough on Trump for that because, I mean, you had the FCC chair who came out and basically threatened ABC on national television. And I feel like the next day, I think, if I remember correctly, you came out and said, well, Kimmel had low ratings. ABC is wanting to get rid of him for a while. And I feel like that kind of flies in the face of what you've been saying a lot about when you say that you, you know, you can disagree with someone, but you defend their right to say what they believe. So I just correct.

Glenn Beck (17:56)

So Trump.

Anthony (Caller from Georgia) (17:57)

We have a lot of people looking the other way.

Glenn Beck (18:00)

Okay, really good, fair. And maybe I didn't make a big enough deal out of it, but my opinion was always, we don't cancel people. I don't want to cancel people. And Stu and I remember Stu and I talking about this is beyond what the fcc, because I know the fcc, you know, and I know, I happen to know that commissioner, and I think he's very, very wise. I didn't think this was the right move. And as somebody who is regulated by the fcc, I don't want them to be able to do that to me. So why would I want them to do that to Jimmy Kimmel? The. So I am. I'm absolutely against it. And I. I do stand up for people when they lose their jobs. I didn't think this was going to last, but when it comes to Jimmy Kimmel, ABC does have a right to fire people for low ratings. You Know, and I think this probably from the frustration of. Of what's his name? Of the Dancing Syringes.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (19:06)

Yeah.

Glenn Beck (19:07)

That. That he knows he's lying about all of that. He. He's. Low ratings. No. Low ratings. He was so far over budget, they were hemorrhaging tens of millions of dollars on that show every year. And you can only. As a network, you can only hemorrhage money for so long, and, you know, you're not turning it around. You're gonna get fired. And that's what that was all about. So I may have not come out as strongly as I should have, and I'm glad you called me on that, Anthony.

Anthony (Caller from Georgia) (19:38)

Yeah, I just. It's just one of those things. I just feel like I would like it if more conservatives were willing to come out as strongly against other conservatives as they would if it was a Democrat doing it, you know? Cause I know you'd be screaming about this if Biden's SEC chair had done that.

Glenn Beck (19:57)

Well, they. They did. You know, I had three White House.

Anthony (Caller from Georgia) (20:04)

Television saying I had three White House.

Glenn Beck (20:08)

I had three White House executives or advisors in the White House running campaigns to get me thrown off the air. So, I mean, I've lived it, and so I do understand it.

Anthony (Caller from Georgia) (20:24)

Well, I, you know, I can't say much to that. But what I can say is I just. I've never. I personally have never seen it before where someone can go on national television, issue a blatant threat, make it so obvious, and then just have everyone else just kind of say, oh, well, you know, he had low ratings. So that's what that was about.

Glenn Beck (20:45)

I hope, Anthony, I hope I've.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (20:47)

Not to rehash the entire Kimmel thing, though. I think it's a little bit overstating it, honestly, when it came to what the threat was. I mean, he was in the middle of an interview, he was asked a question. He was talking about this. And just like a lot of officials do, he was talking about a story. And I didn't take it as, this is going to happen to you tomorrow, we're gonna come after you. I also don't think he had the power to do it anyway. I mean, I think there was a lot of talk, and I will. I will say that I am sympathetic to the case that at times the Trump administration talks more than they should about these things in various different topics, a lot of times claiming powers that they don't have in interviews, when these aren't even things that could happen. But there's a lot of big talking going on at times, and I don't like that particularly.

Glenn Beck (21:38)

You know what's funny, Anthony? You'd be. I think you'd be probably surprised at how many times we have said on and off the air, this is getting close to constitutional problems, and if it goes any farther, you know, we're going to be on the other side. I mean, we. We watch this very carefully, very carefully. And we're. I mean, we're debating some things right now, you know, that I don't know how to make sense of, but I don't have to make sense of it yet because it hasn't happened. But if it does happen, then I got to look at it and go, okay, it's unconstitutional. I can't stand there. I can't do it. We really try really hard, but you don't hear that. And, you know, I don't expect you to take my word for it.

Paul (PhD student caller) (22:26)

No.

Anthony (Caller from Georgia) (22:27)

But I do believe.

Glenn Beck (22:27)

Is there anything.

Anthony (Caller from Georgia) (22:28)

Believe that that is. You know, I do believe that you guys would hold it accountable if you felt that it would cross the Constitution. I'm just kind of right for me, I guess I'm just waiting to see it. And I don't know if we'll ever come to that point where Trump will actually blatantly do something that flies in the face of the Constitution, but with things like him tweeting out, you know, if I save the country, I don't break laws, stuff like that.

Glenn Beck (22:52)

No, yeah, we don't agree with that.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (22:54)

Yeah, definitely.

Glenn Beck (22:54)

And you know what, Anthony? You know, there might be something. There might be something here that we disagree on that might be part of the problem. I took Donald Trump's words literally for a long time, and that's why I was against Donald Trump at the beginning. And then I realized, oh, he doesn't. That's a show. And I hadn't seen that before in a president. And I'm not saying that's good or bad. I don't personally like the show part of it, but that's a show. You take him. You don't take him literally. You. You do take him seriously. And he says a lot of stuff that you're like, all right, I gotta do that. You know, you can take it to the extremes. Hey, little rocket man, you know, may have to vaporize North Korea. He not gonna do that. He's not gonna do that. I don't like that he said that. But I don't get, you know, into a panic because he's not going to do that. And so you have to separate what he says from what he actually does. So sometimes we don't comment on what he says because I look for what he's doing instead. Does that make sense to you?

Anthony (Caller from Georgia) (24:12)

I understand what you're saying. I just. I guess what I'd say to that is I would just like it if we had a president who didn't make me have to try to parse through what he's saying when he says something that blatant.

Glenn Beck (24:23)

Oh, you know what I have to tell you. So would I. But I live in the world that is the world that it is, not the world that I wish it was.

Anthony (Caller from Georgia) (24:35)

Yeah, I get that.

Glenn Beck (24:38)

Anthony, call me anytime. I really appreciate your phone call. And if you hear something, you just call. You call. And. And I'll make sure the phone screener puts you to the top of the list, because I really would like to hear the other side from someone rational.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (24:53)

Like, I love having conversations with people on the other side that's actually rational and calm and.

Glenn Beck (24:57)

Yeah.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (24:57)

And so we do appreciate you listening, Anthony. That's. That's awesome. And thanks.

Glenn Beck (25:01)

Yeah, big time. Thank you so much, Anthony. Appreciate it. You got it.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (25:05)

All right, now can we bash him? He's off the air.

Glenn Beck (25:08)

Yeah. I mean, you believe these liberals, that pinko bedwetting. What a moron.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (25:18)

That's.

Glenn Beck (25:19)

Those are my favorite calls.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (25:20)

I like those, too.

Glenn Beck (25:21)

When people can. I mean. And don't you kind of starve for that. Wouldn't you love to have that conversation with family members that. Where you don't agree.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (25:32)

Yeah, yeah. And the points he brings up, like, we've talked about this, and we have talked about it on the air. Of course, there are definite issues that we have with Trump. You know, I've talked many times about the tariff power. I don't think he has, and I think that's gonna be. We talked about that many times.

Glenn Beck (25:47)

Hammered him on Covid.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (25:48)

Yeah, We've had with some of the COVID stuff. And I will say I have a disconnect a little bit internally, that it's probably something that he's noticing and maybe others are as well, where stuff like when the president comes out and goes after a giant media company editing his interviews, the BBC one that has just come out was blatantly terrible, and that one really did feel defamatory. Some of them are just like things that Donald Trump doesn't like. And some of it makes me feel kind of good inside emotionally. But I also really am hesitant to be excited about a president going after individual media companies in a country like ours. Number One where I'm doing a show, and I can see that we've done the show during Democratic presidents and had these pressures that we didn't like. But also in a country with the First Amendment, it's a risky road. And I don't think he's crossed lines yet. Glenn, I don't know if you do, but I am concerned about it at times.

Glenn Beck (26:51)

I didn't like the tariffs on Canada for playing Ronald Reagan. What is that?

Stu (Co-host or producer) (26:57)

I don't even know if those actually went into effect. He said he was going to do them. I don't even know if I went into effect.

Glenn Beck (27:03)

Right, exactly. But, you know, if you look at the debate when we were going on the. What is it, the Alien and Sedition act with James Madison, they. I mean, they went round after round after round, and some of the most compelling arguments were, you can lie. You can lie about government officials. Okay? You can. You can lie about them. And when I first read that, and I'm like, wow, why? Why would what. But you look at their reasoning in the argument, they're like, the government cannot be the arbiter of truth. It cannot be. So if you lie about somebody outside of the government, if you lie about an individual and you're smearing them, but if you're lying about the government, you cannot put the government as the arbiter of truth because they have too much power. And so I, I don't like the fact that the government can come after you, Donald Trump, as an individual. You know, if you're saying things that are absolute lies about me. That BBC thing was just. Somebody asked. Yeah, it was so bad, so egregious.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (28:27)

Also, in a country that doesn't have a First Amendment and those protections, which is. Maybe these companies could consider pushing for one in their nations, because when you have those, it's a lot easier to sue in that way over a public figure there.

Glenn Beck (28:42)

And I think if you're a public figure, you have a right to sue. I do not want the government going in and saying, you can't do. Jimmy Kimmel, fcc, You. You have to get off. That's. There's no space for that. No space for that. No matter what he says. No space for that. But when it comes to, hey, you're saying this and it's a lie and you're defaming me. I think you should be able to sue.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (29:10)

You're streaming the best of the Glenn.

Glenn Beck (29:12)

Beck program, and you can find full episodes wherever you download podcasts. Hello, Stuff.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (29:18)

Hello, Glenn. How are you? Good.

Glenn Beck (29:20)

There's a couple of stories that I think, you know, are worth talking about. The, the tariff checks, which I don't really like. We can talk about that. Also, there's new update on the Jeffrey Epstein thing that I don't know what it means.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (29:37)

Which one do you.

Glenn Beck (29:37)

Let me, where do you want to start?

Stu (Co-host or producer) (29:38)

Let me ask you a couple questions. Which one do you like more, the $2,000 stimulus check or the 50 year old mortgage or 50 year mortgage idea? Which one is. If you had to pick one, which one would you pick?

Glenn Beck (29:51)

If I had to pick one, I would pick the $2,000, you know.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (29:54)

Really?

Glenn Beck (29:55)

Tariff check?

Stu (Co-host or producer) (29:56)

Yeah, I don't think, I think I'd pick the 50 year mortgage. To me, the 50 year mortgage should be available if some bank wants to offer it. I mean, it's up to a private, I don't know what the government has to do with any of this, but if the, if, if a bank wants to say, hey, 50 year mortgage, here you go, take that risk and trust someone's going to pay you back for 50 years.

Glenn Beck (30:14)

Okay, I want the money.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (30:16)

What?

Glenn Beck (30:18)

I want the money.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (30:19)

You want the money. I got news for you, Glenn. You're not going to be in the, in the category that receives any money.

Glenn Beck (30:24)

I'll never get it.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (30:25)

You're paying for it, not receiving it. Yeah, but, yeah, no, I, neither one of those two stories are my favorites.

Glenn Beck (30:34)

And yeah, I don't, I don't like, I don't want to be writing checks. I mean, you know, I don't want to be, you know, the money is never really the money. It's never, as long as we have excess, you know, we got, you know, whatever he says, $3 billion. Great. Can we apply that directly to the debt? How about that one? But he's, he knows he's in trouble. He knows he's in trouble. He can't turn the economy around as quickly as he did the last time. It's not 2016 anymore. And so, you know, everybody was expecting and voting for him to turn things around. And the price of gas has gone down, the price of eggs have gone down, but you're still, you know, now we're at 3% inflation. Well, okay, what about going the other direction? Getting the prices down to where they were, you know, in 2020, and gas has done that, but very few other things have, have done that.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (31:29)

Yeah. And I think, you know, understandably, it's a central part of his platform. The tariffs have been a big focus. He's talked a lot about it. It's also One of those things that, you know, there's a lot of disagreement on. So I think that's where he's drawn, right? Like that's him. He likes being in the fight, he likes being out there talking about these things. So that I think has, because it's not a particularly popular issue, it has made his economic approval ratings be more difficult, I think. And I think people are feeling some of the stuff being echoes from previous administration with the spending and everything else. That's still the major cause of, of price increases, not tariffs as of yet. But you know, some of that, you know, isn't helpful as well. And you try throwing $2,000 at people, you know, again, I don't know that that's even going to pass. He can't just do it. You know, that's not something that he can just do on his own. He can just hand out thousands of dollars in checks. I don't think I've seen a constitutional justification for that. So I don't think that's what he's even planning. I'm sure he's planning on trying to get something passed to do that if that comes up. But you're right, we don't have the money. I am not a person who wants to solve our debt problems with increased quote unquote revenues to government. I don't think that's the correct way to do it. But if you have those revenues, if just things are going great and you get more money in, you're right. I'd rather have that dished out toward the debt, at least as long as there's a long term plan to address it. I mean, I don't know that paying, you know, 1% or 2% of our debt off is even better than honestly just dishing out a bunch of money to people. But I will say it is what we would refer to as a. You think it's a. There's wealth. It is going from one place to another and we are redistributing it. That is what is occurring here. And it used to be something we had a big problem with. It's just again, something he threw out. Maybe it's not even a hardcore proposal, but. But we should be concerned about going down that path long term.

Glenn Beck (33:36)

What is he going to do? Honestly, what can he do?

Stu (Co-host or producer) (33:42)

We talked about this a little bit yesterday and one thing we didn't get a chance to get to, that I would love to get your thoughts on is I think this is one of the reasons he's really embraced going all in on AI. I think he sees this and the opportunity of leading the world in AI as a way to grow the economy out of the problems that we're facing here. And that's usually his approach. You think that's part of it?

Glenn Beck (34:08)

It's always his approach. Yeah, I think that's 100% what it is. He's been convinced that this is the future. And if that works and we're the leader in it, then we will grow our way out because of the taxes and the jobs and everything else. And we will. We could dwarf, you know, through a. Through a really robust economy. We could grow and grow and grow to where even just this debt, it doesn't seem so bad. That's absolutely his plan. But that's a long way away and, you know, getting there. Did you see the story in Texas about the. The server farm that's all built, ready to go? They're still working on the power plant, but they have all the permits and they're actually building the power plant.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (34:53)

Did you see that? No.

Glenn Beck (34:54)

In Texas, they don't have anybody taking it yet.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (34:58)

What do you mean? They say they built a server farm with no company attached to it.

Glenn Beck (35:02)

No company attached to it. Texas is. And it's not a Texas thing. It's, you know, a bunch of, you know, billionaire Texans. They're like, we'll build you a server farm. And so they're building these buildings with power plants because they want all of them to be in Texas. And they're saying, don't panic. But you would think that there would have been takers for that immediately. And, you know, it's been offered and nobody has snapped it up yet. Concerns me a bit.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (35:34)

Obviously, there's a lot of economic considerations as to, you know, you gotta figure out what the cost is, and there's a lot to consider there. But, yeah, it's interesting. I mean, there is a theory that this is really going to be a bubble and we're going to see a situation like we did in 2000, where the Internet kind of blew up on everybody. And it's not that the Internet never came. Right. It's certainly a big part of our lives, maybe all of your life, if you happen to be under the age of 30 or so. But the Internet came, it did change the world, but it took a while and we had a collapse before it really did what everyone was promising it was going to do.

Glenn Beck (36:13)

So I told you Yesterday, I'm reading 1929, a new book. 1929. It is fabulous. You got to listen to it or Read it. It's just fabulous. But they're describing what the exuberance was like in 1929 and how, you know, it's never going to go down. It's never going to go down. Do you know, I mean, look at all of the things on the horizon. Look at all the new technology that is happening. Look at the people that are moving in. And you know, we've got so many cars and so many refrigerators to sell and everything is changing and it's just up, up, up, up, up, up, up. And everybody bought into it. I mean, it was. I knew the, the run up to the crash of 29 was bad with exuberance. I had no idea it was this bad. I mean, they were openly calling it stock gambling. People were, people were taking money, borrowing money, and then they would invest it in a company, but they would watch it as it would go during the day and they would make several trades, you know, in a week, because no, you know, I hear this one's hot and we're going to gain a little here and then we'll pull it out and then we'll put money over here. I mean, it was gambling. It literally was gambling and it was just consuming everybody. And the real problem is the banks decided that they would give loans for playing the stock market. And so all of these banks are just so over leveraged. And that's kind of what I feel like here. These, you know, we're really excited about, you know, the future of AI. Some of us are also equally as terrified. But it is going to happen. I just don't know how it's going to happen and when it's going to happen. And there's just seems to be so much money sloshing around in the system and we don't even have the power units. You see, there's another server farm that has just been built and it's sitting empty. And it's been sitting empty for a while because it's in California. A, nobody wants to build a server farm in California. B, they didn't connect it to its own power plant. And so California, you can't put California. You're gonna really, you're gonna suck all that energy when you already have brownouts and then the server farm's just gonna go down every once in a while. That's completely unworkable.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (38:40)

Let me just interrupt real quick for a quick message from Gavin Newsom 2028, because there's never been a man more clearly running for president. And also, you know, this is a guy we need people to be aware of what, what it's like in California and what they're dealing with there. You're right. It would be insane to build these types of facilities there, knowing what California will likely do to you. And you're right. I think we both have the same concerns on AI. There's a lot of bad that comes along with it, but there is a lot of promise as well. And there probably will be really good developments that come out of it, and it probably will take over the world and do all the major amazing things that they say it's going to do, along with a lot of really terrible ones, just like the iPhone. But the path there is not. It's not linear. It's not this wonderful upswing. Something's going to happen. And you look at the way our economy is structured right there.

Glenn Beck (39:37)

Wow.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (39:38)

The bet is big on AI. I mean, it's really the only bet anyone's making right now.

Glenn Beck (39:43)

I know. Can I switch topics here for a second? Sotheby's is having a. A big auction and something really, really important in the art world is going up for sale. It is a solid 18 karat gold toilet. Now, not the toilet that you might have heard before that one was stolen. They never found it. It's just the gold is worth $10 million. It's going up for sale. This artist, he's some, you know, cultural phenomena. According to Sotheby's, he took gold, melted it down, and made it into a gold throne. Okay. Apparently it's a statement on the excess of capitalism. Yeah, but I think the real statement isn't in the art. I think the real statement is in us. You know, have you ever heard of the Trump Stu? He was an artist in the 1920s and he did a urinal and he was making fun of the art world and he just took a urinal out of a men's restroom and then put it on the wall and called it art. And he was mocking the art world. Mocking him, saying, you call anything art and you know, and as long as you like it, then it goes up on value. Well, the art world critics decided, oh, well, toucan play at that game. We love that. That is art. That is beautiful art. And it became one of the most famous art pieces around. Now they're doing it with the. The toilet, which you should just tell everybody. You know, this, this whole thing is a con. It's a con.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (41:30)

Yeah.

Glenn Beck (41:31)

The art world is a con.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (41:33)

And this comes from the 100th most important person in the world of art named by Art Something magazine several years ago.

Glenn Beck (41:41)

Yeah, Glenn Beck, my favorite magazine.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (41:44)

Yes, it was Art Something magazine. But I will say, you ever notice how a lot of statements against capitalism end up in the person making the statement with a lot of money?

Glenn Beck (41:57)

Uh huh.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (41:57)

That seems to.

Glenn Beck (41:58)

I have noticed that happen a lot. I have noticed that.

Stu (Co-host or producer) (42:01)

It's like all these Hollywood movies that make these grand statements against capitalism wind up lining their pockets with millions of dollars. It's so strange how that happens.

Glenn Beck (42:10)

Yeah, but they hate it. And they hate themselves when they have to spend it. They just hate themselves. You know, this artist, he just hates capitalism. But somehow or another he got enough. Now remember the last toilet sold for the same. And so the last toilet was like $10 million. So he had $10 million. Then that toilet was stolen, and so he's made another one with another $10 million worth of gold. So this starving artist, somehow or another has coughed up $20 million to make two gold toilets. But he hates capitalism. And rich people, they're just so horrible, Nana.