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Fascinating show today. We have the latest on the government shutdown. We have a major announcement on the torch. I explain what it is, how you can join what is coming. Also, Brandon Tsang joins us to discuss war and AI. A really fascinating hour with him. You'll hear the best of in today's podcast. Let me tell you about good ranchers. In a world where most everything seems imported, it's still easy to forget that America knows how to feed itself. Thankfully, good ranchers exist to prove that we do. Every cut they sell, every steak, every chicken breast, every bread burger comes from 100% American farms and ranches. You know, the President just did something that I don't agree with because it's hurting our ranchers and they're, they're, they're going to have a hard time. It's so important that you help our ranchers and you support American ranches. When you open a box from good ranchers, you're getting more than just meat. You're supporting families who refuse to outsource their livelihoods. And they're standing up for a way of life that still believes in quality, hard work and doing things right the American way. Every package is vacuum sealed, flash frozen, delivered straight to your door. Fresher than the supermarket and better than any imported that you'll find from half a world away. I want you to visit goodranchers.com use the promo code BECK when you subscribe for an additional $40 off plus free meat for life. Please support our ranches and our farms. It's promo code BECK. $40 off plus free meat for life when you subscribe. It's goodranchers.com welcome to the Table. Hello America. You know, we've been fighting every single day. We push back against the lies, the censorship, the nonsense of the mainstream media that they're trying to feed you. We work tirelessly to bring you the unfiltered truth because you deserve it. But to keep this fight going, we need you right now. Would you take a moment and rate and review the Glenn Beck podcast? Give us five stars and leave a comment. Because every single review helps us break through Big Tech's algorithm to reach more Americans who need to hear the truth. This isn't a podcast. This is a movement. And you're part of it. A big part of it. So if you believe in what we're doing, you want more people to wake up, help us push this podcast to the top rate, review, share. Together we'll make a difference. And thanks for standing with us. Now let's get to work.
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So the federal government is, has remained closed because they will not pass a continuing resolution, a clean CR as they call it. Um, and the responsibility of that failure falls directly on one of the two major parties, and that party is the Democrat Party. Uh, the political, the political speak is echoing through the halls of Congress. Our military is now being funded by private dollars. Can't believe it. This week is the week our air traffic controllers will stop receiving a paycheck. And so we'll be at the mercy of those who are like, I'll work for free. And worst of all, deep in America's neighborhoods, children are going to go to bed hungry. Now, I am not a fan of big social programs. I think the welfare system that we have created in this country has done nothing for poverty. And all of the stats bear this out. Zero for poverty. In fact, it may have even gotten worse. But the party that purports to represent the weakest among us, the ones who are like, they want your children to starve in the middle of the street. The ones who represent the weakest are the ones who are refusing to keep the lights on or now to secure the food on the table for the poor, poor and the vulnerable. Literally the poorest among us, the children that they're always saying are going to starve to death. They are going to take the food out of their mouth and it reveals who they really are, okay? What really matters to them. They're inaction is truly a choice. And it's, it's the condemning of the poor that they say they're for through these government programs. I say that's not the way to do it. They say it is, but now they, they've after, they have enslaved people on these government programs. They're just yanking the carpet out. So here's what actually is happening. On October 1, the federal government entered shutdown because Congress failed to pass a, a full year appropriations or a stopgap CR continuing resolution to fund the essential programs. It, the Republicans have been there the whole time going past this pass this past this. We can even do a two week, we can do a four week, let's just keep government functioning. But they won't do it now. Among the programs at risk now beginning November 1st, is the nation's primary food aid mechanism, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. You know, snap, the one the Democrats said they had to expand under Obama. Now according to the most recent data, SNAP is serving an average of 42 million people every single month. That's 12% of all of the people that live here in the United States in fiscal year 2024, okay, 12%. And the U.S. department of Agriculture has now said, okay, we, we, we don't have the contingency funds. The ones we do have can't legally be used to cover normal monthly SNAP benefits in the funding gap. The President has tried to do everything he can, but court system just keeps shutting him down. And I don't want to give the President more power to be able to do whatever he wants. Okay, fund the government. Now. Here's the implication. As early as next week, millions may no longer receive their benefits or they will face a delay and a reduction. We know because we've gone through this over and over again. These are always partisan standoffs. But we are now witnessing where the Democrats are weaponizing hunger. The SNAP program traces all of its roots back to the Democrats. The food stamp era of the 1960s and the 1970s. By 2020, it was helping over 40 million people. Now, the previous shutdowns have delayed benefits. Okay, but not endangered the monthly food assistance to tens of millions of people directly. Shutdowns are supposed to be a bureaucratic interruption. That's why I celebrate shutdowns, okay? I don't want basic programs to be cut, but I do love the fact we can look at the government and say, wow, a lot of you seem to be non critical or non essential employees. But now we have a shutdown that threatens to pull the food out from American children. I say this kind of with glee because they've always said we want to harm children and none of us want to harm children. But the Democrats are actually going out by choice. It is their choice to full to pull funding they say is absolutely necessary to feed children in America. And they're okay with it. This is the party of social compassion. Remember, they have in recent years accused Republicans of refusing to negotiate, being unwilling to compromise on budgets, being unwilling to compromise on continuing resolutions, you know, on, on just, you know, at least funding the basic floor for the vulnerable. And yet the Democrats are now leading us into the longest shutdown in our history and they are knowingly using hungry children and babies to do it. And why are they doing it? Why are they doing it? Let's be honest, Chuck Schumer is doing it. So he is not primaried by the left wing of his own party. That's what this is really all about, okay? And this contradiction matters when you accuse the other side of refusing to negotiate yet withhold life support for children. Your moral vacuum is A little stark and clear. Now because of the shutdown, USDA warns 42 million individuals may not receive, you know, SNAP benefits in November. In Texas alone, that means 3.4 million people who depend on SNAP are now being told the state is monitoring the situation. But the state of Texas may not be able to guarantee November benefits. And we're a state in good shape. Imagine what's going to happen in California or in Illinois. Virginia's governor has declared a state of an emergency in anticipation of the loss of federal food benefits. So what does this actually mean in human costs? Well, let's just take the Democrats word for it. We know families are already living on the margin. Children are relying on the kindness of the system. The system is not kind. We've told you forever. The system does not, it cannot love you. It doesn't care about you. The, the politicos in Washington, they don't actually care about you. And we are seeing this with the Democrats. This means the food banks are going to be swamped. But the food banks are already low. Now these are the ones who are bearing the burden of the political gains further. Now listen to this. See who this might help. When food becomes scarce for families, what happens? Stress rises. That means if you have stress, that means you're going to have more suicides, more sick people, more people using the hospitals. Theft, theft is going to increase and public unrest may brew. She now who would want that except all of those Democrats who are already sowing the seeds of revolution, pushing for chaos in the streets and taking officers off the field while putting criminals back into the game. The seeds of desperation have been sown by this party. And what are they doing? They're turning up the heat. And then what does this mean if the government doesn't pay for it? That means the states have to pay for it. Which will make all of our states more vulnerable because they'll all have to dip into their rainy day fund. Which makes what all of our states more vulnerable to collapse. Also, Chuck Schumer isn't primaried. Uh, you can't wait for political restoration when one of the political parties does not want restoration. You know, one party is not looking for common sense. In fact, one party is pushing for shooting those you disagree with while funding color revolutions in our own cities. You know, while, while everybody is trying to stop this, this one guy Mellon, who is, is sending a check for $130 million to pay for our, our military, all the short shortfall for our military, $130 million personally coming out of his, his paycheck what are they doing? They're spending almost $300 million on a no Kings rally. Hmm. Which one is in favor of America? Which one's not? You can't rely on a party that refuses to pass a clean funding bill when they actually say out loud all the time that the ends justify the means. By the way, for those who don't get that, maybe you soon will. The ends justify the means. What does that mean? Well, to clarify, it's playing out right now that it is okay for people to suffer. It's okay if your plane is delayed or canceled in the next few days. It's okay for military families who are struggling already for are pushed deeper into debt and despair, and children literally going to bed hungry, wake up hungry, and then go to school hungry. They know what's at stake, but at their plans, their goals, their primary election is more important. That's the ends. And it justifies all of the things that is happening or will happen in our society. Every plane that's delayed, everybody that goes further in debt, and every child that doesn't have food because their beloved SNAP program that they have enslaved people on is now broke. So here's what we have to do. First of all, you have to make sure that everyone, if you're traveling, the minute these airports start to fall apart and your plane is canceled or delayed because people aren't being paid and so they're not showing up for work, you make sure everyone knows that that's because Chuck Schumer didn't want to have be primaried by aoc. Okay? Call your Democrat representative. Anyone who is struggling to put food on the table. Anyone who knows of a hungry child after helping them, call your Democrat representative and say, enough is enough here. But I would like to suggest something even further. I'm going to ask you to do what you always do and you do best. Get involved and help in a real way. Our communities are going to suffer for a myriad of reasons. And right now, if you're living in a military town, they're already suffering. They're already suffering. We have to rally our own communities. So our food banks all around the country are. Are going empty, and we haven't even hit anything yet. If the Democrats allow this to go through Thanksgiving, it'll probably go through Christmas. That is going. That will devastate the economy. That'll. We'll all be looking at food banks soon. Okay? So we need to stock up our local food banks. You need to get your church involved, get everybody involved. If your church has a Food bank, please deliver food to the local church. Okay. We need to reach out to schools. We need to mobilize our churches, our civic groups, our community centers. We need to make sure that no one is going bed to bed hungry because of political inaction. This is our job in the first place. This is our church's job in the first place. But they have enslaved about 43 million people on food stamps. It's got to stop. It has to stop. But you don't just. You don't. You don't take a heroin user and like, oh, no more heroin for you. You've got to have a plan. Well, there is no plan. So it comes back to us. Food is now being used as a weapon. So we have to disarm that weapon because this makes a difference. You might say, well, you know what? Those people can work, or whatever it is that you might say in your head. This is going to cause civil unrest. And you're already seeing it. The seeds are being planted online already that if they don't give us our money, and they're not talking about the Democrats, they're talking about Donald Trump, they don't give us our money, well, then it's time to take action ourself. And you will see an increase in theft. You will see an increase in disillusionment. You will see an increase in violence in the streets. It will happen. So let's disarm that by doing the right thing ourselves, with kindness, with service and responsibility. Let's show people that, you know, there is one side that actually cares about the poor. We always do. We're always there. Let's demonstrate leadership. When everybody else wants to demonstrate. I don't even know what you know. When the left fails to act, let us be the act. When food becomes a bargaining chip, let's render it bulletproof by putting some meals in some hands. Let's be seen, be seen, doing real good, politics be damned. Principles are what matters. You know, I can't believe all of these years they've been saying, and they want your children to starve. And they are. I mean, I heard a Democrat this weekend say, we know this is going to cause pain, but it's important, really, because you have said, when we're not talking about things like this, when we're talking about just not increasing the spending, not decreasing, you're telling us that we always want hungry children to starve, Starve. You are literally taking the only safety net away that they have that you created and enslaved them with. Uh, I'm sorry, but you know, an empty belly doesn't know compromise. It doesn't. We have to stand in the breach while Congress stands idle. How do you not pass a clean cr. When. When food. I mean, that's the minimum of decency, isn't it? When they refuse. And I don't know when people will get this. What they're saying is we don't really care. We care about our politics more. Enough is enough. Enough. Enough is enough. We'll do our part. We should feed the hungry in the first place. We should support the children. We need to lean into service a little bit more and disarm the politics of hunger by living higher. Higher than politics. Principles of love and responsibility. I mean, it's. It's clear how truly little they care for those at the bottom. Time to carry the. The torch for the powerless. You know, I knew John Huntsman, a good friend of mine, and in 2008, he almost lost his petrochemical company and lost everything he had. Mortgage everything. And just everything was on the line. And when he finished, he said to the banks, now, I need a loan for charity. And the bank went, charity? We don't loan for charity. And he said, I have promised millions of dollars to these charities. And they said, well, just tell them to wait. You're in a bad situation. He said, I tell you what, why don't I take you to the homeless shelter and you tell the hungry to wait. Why don't I take you to the battered women's center and you tell them, hey, there will be a place for you so you can get away from your abusive spouse next month. You tell them that he mortgaged, literally, his house and everything else just to make his charitable contributions. That is a man of real principle. That is. That's the way we should all live our life. First principles. Um, not asking a mortgage the house, just if you have extra food, share it. Be aware. So we don't have revolution on our streets, which is exactly what they want, and you and I both know it. When the world feels unpredictable, when you. When you never know, an emergency situation might. Might arise. Being ready is not paranoia. It's just common sense. The burner launcher gives you that readiness without ever having to cross the line into lethal force. Imagine this. You're on a road. You're on a road trip, and you're. You're stopped, you know, at a rest. A rest area at dark. Somebody approaches. 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Well, the time is finally here that I can talk to you about the Torch and what it is and when it begins and what it all means. We'll do that in 60 seconds. First, your name is the most personal thing you have. It's on your driver's license, your debit card, your medical records. It knows who you are. So when somebody starts using it, it's a real violation. It's a level hard to describe. The hard truth is our information is scattered everywhere online. All our shopping accounts, our doct portals, banks, airlines, every kind of social media, every login is just another door. And hackers only need one to be unlocked. And that's why I recommend and have for a long time, LifeLock. They're constantly monitoring for signs that your identity is being tampered with. Not just your credit score, but loan applications, address changes, accounts opened in your name, even data that is being traded on the dark web. And if something looks off and somebody does try to steal your identity, you're not only alerted, you're not left alone. LifeLock has a dedicated US based restoration team that works on your behalf to fix all of the damage. Modern life means living online. Protect yourself with LifeLock Joy. Now save up to 40% off your first year with a promo code BECK. Call 800LIFELOCK1 800, lifelock or use lifelock.com use the promo code BECK and save 40%. So the day is finally here where I can talk to you about all of this and my next phase of my career. So if you don't mind, just give me just a few minutes speak from On a personal and professional note, when I began The Blaze. Years and years and years ago, the world looked extraordinarily different than it did. The left owned all of the airwaves, the networks, the studios, the universities. You know, if. If you didn't see the world their way, you just weren't welcome in it and you weren't going anywhere. At the time when I was dominating those airwaves, the left told me, you want to say those things, you just go on the Internet and do a podcast. At a time when a podcast didn't mean anything, it was a joke. If you, a podcaster at the time, at the time, nobody had really figured out the podcast. Nobody had even considered live subscription networks with real talent that could not just be heard and survive, but could dominate and thrive. So when I left fox, I never forget Roger Ailes told me, he said, you know, the Internet's a fad. And I said, I don't think it is. And the left thought that they had won, that I had been banished into the wilderness of something called podcasting. On my last show, I said to the left that you will pine for the days when I was only on for one hour every day on Fox News. But as usual, they lacked vision and they didn't see what I saw. And what I saw was freedom. Entire networks and generations of new voices that would finally be set free, that would not have to climb that impossible ladder that I had to climb. Out of that wilderness came the blaze, and through these doors walked the next generation of truth tellers. And they're still walking through these doors. Let me just name a few, and I'm gonna leave a lot of people out, and I apologize, but. Buck Sexton, Lawrence Jones now at Fox. Ellie Bestucky, who's in the Wall Street Journal today as being the leader of the leading women's voice for the conservative movement. Dana Lash, Will Kane. Um, the first time that Matt Walsh ever appeared on television, it was with me on what was then called gbtv and my own personal fave whose career got a start or a nobody to now the Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth. No one had ever built a live subscription based network of independent thinkers. It hadn't been done, hadn't even been dreamed of. No one had ever streamed across radio and television and online simultaneously and based it online. And to do it, we had to invent new things. I mean, the infrastructure didn't exist. We had to partner at the time with Major League Baseball to be able to do it, because no one else but Major League Baseball had even thought of it. Today, if you look around at the landscape. Things have dramatically changed. Megan Kelly, Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro, the biggest names in news, all online, all independent. And it's because of you seeing the future and going, I, I think that might change the media. And together we brought the networks to their knees. It's funny because now it's becoming full circle. You know, the one of them that they drove out, Barry Weiss, is now being welcomed back as a conquering hero and the newsroom savior out in CBS News. It's crazy, but for me, my part of this mission is complete. I wanted to start the place, I wanted to create this ecosystem. And we did. Media now has really capable voices, minds and hands to do things. And the Blaze is hitting new heights every single month. And I can now turn what I want to do, which is my next disruption and my next creative venture. Because as a nation, we are, we are now suffering from a lack of true education, true individual empowerment, and true non governmental rescue. So let me start with education. In January, I am launching the Glenn and Tonya Beck foundation for American History. It is a privately funded trust that will continue to do in accelerated fashion what I began almost 20 years ago. For nearly two decades, I have been collecting the physical evidence of America's soul. The. The documents, the letters, the artifacts that tell the true story of who we are. And it's amazing to me after 20 years how big this thing has gotten and how few people, even in my own audience, really know what it is, because we haven't really unveiled it except in glimpses here and there. But with the help of David Barton and Wall Builders, that library has now become the third largest private collection of founding documents in the world. It is surpassed only by the Library of Congress and the National Archives. It houses and also preserves the largest collection of Pilgrim and Jamestown documents and items in the world. The entire collection now contains well over a million documents and items of evidence of the greatness of the American experiment as well as our scars and our mistakes. But it is definitive proof of our beginnings. This library is proof that America was founded on Judeo Christian values. It is proof that our mission was not slavery, but freedom for all mankind. It is proof that while we have committed terrible wrongs, we have also accomplished miraculous things. It is proof that our story began not in Jamestown, but in Plymouth, Mass. It is proof that when science divorces itself from moral truth, darkness follows. And usually profound darkness. From the Race Hygiene laws born here in America that inspired the Nuremberg Laws in Nazi Germany, to the American Eugenics Society that lit. Lit the path for Mengele's horrors. History repeats itself. If it doesn't, it at least rhymes. Again and again and again. And once again, we are fighting the same ancient evil. The culture of death. But this library is proof that man can rule himself. That Tesla was the genius, not Edison. That some Native American tribes were glorious and peaceful, while others were bloodthirsty and slave owners, no different than the English that came to Jamestown. Over the last three years, my team has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars and hundreds and thousands of man hours digitizing this unparalleled archive. And in the last year plus, I have been working on building something the world has never seen before. What was once contained and still physically is in a tornado proof vault. And then another. They call it a mountain here, but I call it a Texas hillside. And a third location, a granite vault in the Rocky Mountains. All of this history is now also contained in a digital vault. All now on blockchain. So these facts and artifacts will never, ever be lost. Unless you want to shut down the entire Internet. But more than just preservation, which was my first goal, we now have created the first independent, proprietary, AI driven American historical library. And it is, as you will see next year, complete with its own librarian. We call him George. George is built from the writings of George Washington himself, the writings of the founders, the thousands of sermons that they heard from their church pulpits, the books that they read, and the principles they lived by. He can find any artifact, any document, any speech, and delivered it to you as evidence that what you were taught in school was either misguided, out of ignorance, a half truth, or most likely, an out and out lie. He will also be able to teach the Constitution. He will teach the Federalist Papers, the civics, American history in a way that no one has. Has even thought of, no one has ever generated. And it can generate it all without hallucination, as it is all contained in a secure, isolated server where every document is memorized verbatim. That is different. Its first level, which we are now close to finishing, is able to contain and retrieve one exabyte of material. Now, let me give you some perspective on this. One exabyte is 1,000 petabytes. I don't know what that means. Well, that equals a million terabytes. A million terabytes is a billion gigabytes, and a billion gigabytes is one exabyte. Okay, what does that mean? It means that that approaches half of all of the digital data humanity produced in the entire 1990s combined. This is not ChatGPT. This is not Wikipedia. This is verified, factual, memorized, first source truth, powered now by proprietary technology, and the greatest private collection of American history ever assembled. And this is only part of what I'm announcing today. This enormous library featuring our librarian, George, that will be able to teach you and your family in ways you cannot imagine, but will be able to soon. And on separate servers, we have digitized over 30 years of my life's work. Every book, every radio show, every episode, every special, every speech, every bit of research, sourced and documented research with historic verification. And that too, will be ready to teach you anything you might need. From the rise of the caliphate to the structure of our government, from economic truth to the funding networks of the left, from George Soros to Arabella Advisors, we are working with two new sets of researchers that have come into the fold for what I'm launching with the Torch next January. You will be very excited. These two researchers, you know who they are, their teams, and we are putting some stuff together that will first be turned over to the FBI and then made into a special for you. But all of this will be on demand, all verified, and all powered by the Torch, which is going to be a new tool, a new app that will be found@glenn beck.com it's going to be released on January 5th. I would ask that you would sign up for my free email newsletter@glenn beck.com right now. That way we can alert you, you can be one of the first to become a founding member when the app is released. But this is the next chapter. It's. This is the final chapter of my career to try to restore curiosity, try to restore the ability to ask questions about history and then get honest results back without any bias, just based on actual documents. And all of it begins, appropriately, at the beginning of the 250 year of our nation's founding. Now, so you know, the show, this show that you hear, the radio show will still be heard on radio and on Blaze tv. And Blaze TV is going on. It's going to be announcing some new and very exciting expansion very soon. But you will find all of the extras at the Torch app@glenn beck.com and even this show on the app is going to have a completely new edition that is, we're kind of in, we're in beta testing right now. I hope it is going to be shocking in its, in its usefulness. But beginning January 5th, rolling out over the next 12 months, you're going to find new history shows, new deep dive investigations, and most importantly, you will find perspective, honest history, and hope and we begin the year with two brand new podcasts. One of them is America's Story. It's a year long celebration of our 250th birthday. It is the original story and it is really, really, really good. In the months ahead, we will also go where others cannot go or will not go digitally and literally next year, Mercury One, the Nazarene Fund and the American Journey Experience, three of my charities that you have helped build are expanding their mission as well. And beginning in the first quarter of next year, I personally am going to take you into the heart of Islamic darkness. That is going to be one of the things that we really delve into deeply, the Islamicization of the entire West. And I will be taking you into the killing fields of Nigeria where Christians are being slaughtered by Islamist militants and militias in the largest Christian slaughter in human history. We will be there and I will take you to the places most people don't know about or won't cover. And I will take you to the cliffs the world is about to jump off of without anyone even knowing that that is a cliff. A cliff. And that will be Nigeria. Also the front lines of South Korea, where communism is threatening to swallow another free ally probably in the next 24 months. To the places where faith and truth and freedom are under siege. And we don't need more despair. We need more action. And we need it to be bold and decisive. And you will be a part of that. We're not going to just take you and show you problems. We're going to be offering solutions. You'll be a part of a movement that will rescue and rebuild and redeem. I've been working on this for a while and I've been praying all the time and just tearing myself apart. And just a couple of weeks ago, I felt. And somebody was giving me a blessing and I felt strongly, for the first time in my life, I know why I was born. And in that I realized I don't have a lot of time to waste. And. And I have a lot of work to do. I want. I would love to help you find your reason you were born because we all have to. The torch is not just a platform. The torch is a mission. And it is a mission to illuminate. It is a mission to bring light where there is darkness. It is a light to guide those in darkness to safety. And this is my next and final step in my career. And it is the culmination of everything that I have done and built. From Fox to the blaze. From my first item of American History to now the largest private library in the country. From radio to TV to books to now history itself. This is the moment that I try to pass the torch to you. And founding memberships are going to be open soon. And I would love for you to be a partner with us. And I am asking you one last time to help me build something to change the world for good. We've done it once before, we've done it actually several times together. But the truth still matters. And the torch of Lady Liberty, the torch of truth, must never, ever go out. So this is the Torch and it begins in January. January 5th. Sign up for my free email newsletter. You'll be given the first opportunity to become a founding member of this very ambitious project to make history once again by sharing history in new and game changing ways. The torch@glenn beck.com begins January 5th. Let's change the world yet again. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. So the President is over in Asia today negotiating all kinds of different deals and really setting the stage for hopefully peace in Asia. Things could get very, very dicey. And it's one reason why I think that we're actually going after Venezuela. We're trying to make sure that this hemisphere is safe and the Chinese influence and the Russian influence, and quite honestly, the Iranian influence is out. But the talked about a new golden battleship and I thought, we're still building battleships. Why are we building battleships? Uh, and then I thought, oh, a golden one. So we'll be like pirates so we can find that gold after it's at the bottom of the sea. What are we doing? Battleships are a thing of the past, in my opinion. Brandon Tsang is the co founder and president of SHIELD AI He's a former Navy seal. SHIELD AI is coming up with all kinds of new technology to be able to fight the battle, the future. It's gonna be a fascinating conversation. We begin in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about Z Factor. When was the last time you woke up and you felt really rested? Most people don't even get, you know, they don't even remember. I mean, we get through, you know, pushing through the day on half a tank of sleep, you know, filling the coffee cup up by the gallons. But the body knows the difference over time. Exhaustion starts to stack up. Your patience, your memory, your energy, your mood, all of it. The makers of Relief Factor created Z Factor for that exact reason. It's a sleep supplement that helps you wind down naturally and fall asleep easily and actually stay asleep, not knocked out, not Groggy, just rested the way you were meant to rest. 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We have an office In Dallas, about 550 employees there. So I'm also at our office in Dallas today.
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A
So tell me what SHIELD AI is.
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B
Sure. SHIELD AI is a technology company with the mission of protecting service members and civilians with artificially intelligent systems. I founded this company 10 years ago with my brother Ryan. In pursuit of this mission we have been building the world world's best AI pilot and proliferating that AI pilot as well as next generation aircraft. And so Today we're about five and a half billion dollar company, have about 1400 employees and just trying to make our warfighter proud.
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A
So what does it mean? The next generation pilot?
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B
So an AI pilot? Easiest way to think of an AI pilot is self driving technology for unmanned systems. And so I don't know if you've ever been in a Tesla or a Waymo where the thing starts navigating itself itself. Exact same type of technology uses sensors to perceive its environment, uses an onboard Nvidia GPU to process all that sensor information and then make decisions about where to go, what the mission is. Right. So for a car the mission is go from A to B without hitting things. It has to read and react along the way. The mission for an F16 would be dogfight. Another F16.
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A
So what is the expat?
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B
So the expat is our new next generation aircraft. It is an AI piloted, vertical takeoff launch and land fighter jet. First of its kind.
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A
How big is it? Is it fighter jet size?
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B
It is a fighter jet size. So it takes up the logistics footprint. About one third the size of an F18. But that's because you don't have all these life safety support systems that you would for a person. You Basically have an F100 class engine which is the same engine in an F15 or F16. Put wings on it, put computers on it, sensors enable enough room for the fuel and the payload. And it's a monster of an aircraft, it's big.
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A
So does it fly with? Because I've seen these, I've seen computer generated ideas where these new planes will come with a fleet of drones with them kind of as their wingman.
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B
That's absolutely correct. So we actually envision the customer, the customer being US and allied militaries, to basically fly four expats at a given time, and all of them working intelligently with each other, collaboratively with each other, to accomplish a variety of different mission sets.
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A
So have you sold any of these to the US Military yet?
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B
So the X Bat is our next generation aircraft. We just did a product unveiling. We're about 18 months into development. We're doing wind tunnel testing, engine testing, radar cross section testing. The next step, next fall, we're doing our first flight test. The thing goes operational in 2028, and then we go to full production in 2029. We're working closely with a number of US and allied militaries that are interested in the capability. It really scratches an itch that I would say that a lot of them couldn't pinpoint where that itch was. And the fact that it is vertical takeoff and land means you are no longer reliant on runways, aircraft carriers. And what people don't realize is those are like the priority zero targets for our adversaries.
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A
You know, I, I was with the President maybe six or eight months ago when he first got into office, and I asked him, I said, why don't we just cancel all of these projects on planes and everything that have been in the design for, you know, the last 10 years. By the time they come online, they're going to be outdated. AI is changing so rapidly. In two years, it might tell us, get rid of all of that stuff. And to me, aircraft carriers, battleships, all these things are the horses of World War I. And do you think the Pentagon is listening to that kind of talk? Is that accurate? And do you think they get that yet?
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B
Yeah, I think they very much understand what the future of warfare looks like. And I think, look, they have the hard problem of being ready tonight, today. And so they have to have what's available and they have to fight with what's available. They can't rely on things that are in development. Now, that being said, I agree. Certain development projects, and not just in the aviation world, but all of them, there's a ton of money that goes into these development tool capabilities that you might say, like, is this really what we're going to fight with? And I think actually the US army has been a, really, has done a fantastic job of cutting these projects, saying, you know what, we're cutting this, we're cutting this. This isn't how we're going to fight. So that's happening. And as an American taxpayer, I'm happy about that. But I think the, they understand what that world is going to, they just have to, you know, do the balance of what do we have now and then what are we going to fight with in the future?
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A
To you, I mean, you're a former seal, you've been there, you've seen it firsthand. To you, five or eight years from now, what does war look like?
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B
I think it's going to be an accelerated version of what we are seeing in Russia, Ukraine today. And so I'll share a quick story. I've been to Ukraine and I a number of different times. Some of these, you know, American patriots, these war fighters. There was a former SEAL that wanted to go over to Ukraine and fight and support the Ukrainians. And he brought his sniper rifle thinking he was going to get to snipe Russians. And he said, the very first operation I went on, I was talking to him about this. He's like, we went into a bunker and it was rocketed and drone strikes within the first 30 minutes of us entering that bunker. He's like, I sat in that bunker for five days because I was, I was about to peek my head out. He's like, in 200 drones were overhead. And so a lot of that is done manually today and at large scale, manually. FPV drones, these types of things that you see loitering munitions going on in the future, it is just hyper accelerated by AI and autonomy to the point where it is, it's there, it's how smart your drones are and how many you can produce. That's the name of the game.
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A
It's terrifying. I read a book maybe 10 years ago, really great book, and there was this war scene, it's all about AI. And there was this war scene. At the very beginning of the chapter, the President's counsel walks into the Oval Office and says, open the door. And they say, Mr. President, there's a. And then it explains the war that is happening and, and it's, I mean it is engagement that is happening so rapidly and so completely. And the war is solved quickly. This battle is solved quickly. And then it's, it talks about what happened on the battle, the battlefront, and then it says dot, dot, dot, developing in Chicago. All of that happened that fast. Now I know that's dramatic. License. But with hive minds and everything else, it is going to happen in a way that we cannot fathom. Correct.
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B
I think we can see where it's going in that sense. But yes, it's going to be hyper accelerated. Look, I've always been of the belief that peace comes through strength. We need the American war fighter. We need our allies to have the most dominant technology and dominant products first and foremost to determine, deter war and fight and win wars if necessary. And so that's what, that's why I started SHIELD AI now to your point, in terms of where it's going, yes, it's going to be. I can't imagine. Right. Being a SEAL on the Ukrainian battlefield, I tell people like, look, being a Navy SEAL is really cool until you're asked to either fight in a tunnel or fight in a war where there's tons of drones that are being flown at you and used against you.
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A
Same thing for relentless. Yeah, they don't give up until you're dead 100%.
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B
And same with our fighter pilots. Being a fighter pilot is really cool until you're going up against a battery of surface to air missile systems. And so this is where AI and autonomy comes in in terms of piloting these uncrewed fighter jets. These drones that are being built and really hasn't taken off, it hasn't been deployed at scale yet. So what you're seeing in Ukraine and Russia is very much again manual, it's map, mass produced drones. They are not intelligent drones. Now SHIELD AI we have our AI pilot flying on a handful of drones in Ukraine. We just received an order to ship 150 AI pilots. So the AI pilot world is scaling. But again, that's going to be the major difference in terms of what you see today and what you're going to see in the future is far less people involved, far more AI piloting, commanding these systems.
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A
So I was talking to somebody in Washington about, you know, what they're, what they're planning against 27, 28, 29 in Taiwan. And they said that they just feel that it is just going to be a wave after wave after wave of swarms of drones that you're just not. Nobody's going to be able to fight because it's, they're that close and they're really good at that. How far ahead are they on this or are they.
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B
So I've been to Taiwan probably five times this past year. So I've been a number of times working closely with their military, with their government. I think first and foremost they're taking it very, very seriously. I think Ukraine, Russia was a wake up call and a lot of people didn't think that there was going to be state on state, major conflict. And they saw Russia, Ukraine, Taiwan.
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A
Exactly.
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B
It's been, got hung on for hundreds.
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A
Of what if the British were all going to line up in a line.
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B
So they're taking it seriously, they're mobilizing against it. They're increasing their military budget, you know, from 3, you know, to 3% GDP to 5% of GDP. There is a massive buildup in their capabilities and I think they're being very thoughtful about it. Understanding the importance of operating without gps, without communications with AI, the importance of not only targeting and intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance, but also, you know, counter, counter missile, counter drone is something they're investing in also.
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A
Is China ahead of us?
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B
China is not ahead of us on AI and autonomy. They are ahead of us on industrial.
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A
Production capability because they, I mean you see some of their drone shows, even, you know, they're just doing nighttime drone shows and it's like, like a million of them in the sky.
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B
They are people. And look, even those drone shows, while I wouldn't say they're scripted, pre scripted drone shows, but the fact that they're putting thousands of drones up in the air is just getting that muscle memory down in terms of what it's like.
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A
To operationally, are we anywhere, anywhere close to that? Do we have any.
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B
The US is not, it does not have the muscle memory of putting thousands of these small systems up in the air. Now where the United States stands, you know, is still premier today is our strategic capabilities, our ability to jointly maneuver, jointly collect intelligence. We still have a number of strategic capabilities at our hand that like that China has not caught up to that make it a very, very difficult problem for China as well.
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A
So is there anybody ahead of us.
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B
Not with AI and autonomy now being in first place? You know, I'm a big believer, like you should never rest on your laurels and I'm a believer. And you know what Elon Musk says, it doesn't matter if you're in first. What matters is how quickly you're iterating. And the Chinese are able to iterate at a ridiculous rate of speed. And so that is what I'm most concerned about, is how quickly they are able to get to the next version to iterate. Iterate to iterate. Because yes, we're number one in AI autonomy. It doesn't mean that they're not nipping at our heels.
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A
What does AI autonomy mean.
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B
Yeah, so.
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A
So.
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B
AI. When I think about AI, it's a system's ability to make intelligent decisions about where it is. It's its ability to learn from said decisions, its ability to perceive the environment. Perceive the environment, think about its environment and take action. And so an AI can live as it does on our phones now in the form of ChatGPT or Grok4. It can live in the form of a physical manifestation, like a self driving car.
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A
Car.
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B
A humanoid robot, or what SHIELD AI is doing building AI pilots for uncrewed fighter jets. But that's at its core, its ability to perceive its environment, think about its environment, and take action in its environment.
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A
So does that involve hive mind?
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B
That is. That is our AI pilot we call hive mind.
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A
Okay, so can we talk about that? Because I have real concerns about hive mind and what that means. And also, you know, at least, at least in the movies. Yeah, it's not hard to beat hive mind if you can figure that out.