Justin Haskins (15:49)

I'm doing great, Glenn. How are you?

Glenn Beck (15:51)

Are you with socialism on the rise on the streets in California, Is it not amazing how transparent they are being with this, with the socialism and communism and Islamicists that are involved in these so called spontaneous riots?

Justin Haskins (16:11)

Yeah. You know what's amazing is I actually think that this, this is a telltale sign that I think this is the main strategy on the left now to take down Donald Trump. I think it is chaos in the streets, trying to, trying to sort of trick Donald Trump into looking like an authoritarian. I think that's the game plan. We saw it with the Tesla stuff. They did it throughout his first administration. Now they're doing it here in L. A. I think that this is the plan. They want to make them look like a crazy person, look like an authoritarian. How do they do that? By doing insane things in the street that they know the media will not cover fairly. And then they bait him into doing the law and order thing, which is to, to, you know, stop the madness. And in so doing they get to call him an authoritarian. I don't think people are buying it necessarily, but I think that this is the strategy.

Glenn Beck (17:09)

I think it's his strategy. I would disagree with one thing. You say this is their strategy to take down Donald Trump. I think this is, I think they're in their end game strategy might take, you know, three, four years, but I think this is their endgame strategy. Strategy to take down the entire country and western world. Quite honestly, I think you're going to see this all over the world. Justin, let's, let's talk about something else. The big beautiful bill. You found a couple of things in the big beautiful bill. And we've been going back and forth on email about it and I want you to explain it and then we can talk about it. First, let's start with A.I.

Justin Haskins (17:45)

Yeah. There's a provision in the legislation that would ban states, every state in the country from imposing any regulations at all related to artificial intelligence and basically make regulating artificial intelligence exclusively a federal right. I think this is a huge mistake. There are benefits to having the federal government be the only one that can regulate AI, But I think it's a huge mistake for a variety of reasons and potentially catastrophic. The first reason I think it's a huge mistake is because the federal government doesn't actually have an exclusive authority in the constitution to regulate AI. It's not in the constitution. The 10th amendment's in the Constitution, and that says that states have the right to regulate it. And the federal government is terrible at everything it does. So I don't know why it wouldn't be terrible at this as well. Congress also can't get anything done. So the idea that they're going to be passing sweeping AI regulations that ensure that AI is protecting individual rights, I don't think that's going to happen. States are the only opportunity we have to actually put good AI regulation in place. And this bill would make that impossible as it's currently constructed.

Glenn Beck (19:06)

Okay, so here's why I think they're doing this. And David Sacks talks about this. You know, he said, you can't have 50 different regulatory regimes that are. Are following the EU or that are following the UN or even China and dismantling. You'll have chaos and an American. I will not be able to operate at all if all of the states have different regulations. And so he's saying, and the. In the bill, it is a sunset of 10 years that for 10 years they can't have state regulation. Now, you know, 10 years could be the difference between, you know, you know, iRobot and, you know, and the Terminator. But they're saying that, you know, after 10 years, the states can begin to regulate again, but we have to clear the decks so we can get AI happening here in America. What is your response to that?

Justin Haskins (20:15)

Right. Well, I think there's a variety of ways of dealing with it. Number one, regardless of whether it's the right thing from a policy perspective, the constitutional thing is that the 10th amendment says states have the right to regulate AI. So that's. I think the starting point for me is that's what the law says the next part would be. There are plenty of examples, existing examples of regulations and rules and whole industries that are regulated mostly at the state level, not at the federal level. And that states. The examples of states coming together with interstate compacts or other forms of doing this, where they've. They've gotten. A bunch of states have gotten together and said, we're going to have the same rules on this thing. And I don't know why they can't do that for artificial intelligence, too. We don't have to have 50 different regulatory regimes for AI necessarily. States can get together and say, in these states, in these 10 states or 20 states or whatever. This is how we deal with artificial intelligence. The Uniform Commercial Code, which has some problems, no doubt about that. But the Uniform Commercial Code regulates commercial activity. We're talking about banking rules, stuff related to mortgages and real estate, all kinds of stuff. It is extremely big and very complicated. And it's a state law that is essentially the same in all 50 states. So if we can regulate commercial law that way, why can't we regulate artificial intelligence that way? The state is going to do a better job than the federal government.

Glenn Beck (21:51)

So here's the. But again, and I'm only playing devil's advocate because I really don't know the answer to this, I tend to lean. Ooh. I tend to lean towards David Sacks on this because I think it's chaos in. If the states are all disagreeing. However I am, I am also damn near equally arguing the, you know, the argument that I'm asking you to make here because we are in a, you know, an existential threat. I mean, this could be the end of humans if we are not careful with this. But how can businesses, you know, small startups, everybody else, operate across state lines if all 50 states are imposing different AI compliance requirements, which would most likely increase the complexity. You know, the, the complexity, complexity, and also all of the, all of the costs involved. We're looking at things like fragmented data pools and, you know, AI training. And if you can train AI in one state, one way, then if it crosses state lines, I mean, what happens? How do you do that?

Justin Haskins (23:13)

I think that's totally fair. I think the way that you do it is the states can get together and they can make uniform rules as groups of states. The reality. The reality is that was the. The vision for the country from the very start. And I think on artificial intelligence, it should be the same way. I am extremely skeptical that the federal government will pass any good regulatory system related to artificial intelligence. And what really scares me about that is that as we've talked about before in previous shows, the European Union already has laws in place related to AI that's going to force American AI companies to adopt EU rules related to AI if America doesn't do anything. So unless we can get Congress to get its act together and pass a really good AI bill, which I don't think they're going to do because they can't seem to do that with almost anything. Then states are our only hope at protecting individual rights. So that to me is foundationally the main issue. That's the only way we're going to get something done.

Glenn Beck (24:22)

I will tell you that is the, that's the best case, you know, to be against this. What's in the bbb, the big beautiful bill, is this is to protect individual rights and the federal government's just not going to do it. But I will tell you that it's going to slow down and, and possibly cripple us from being able to be real competitive because I don't think anything's going to happen fast enough. You see how everything is happening. Let me switch to something else that I think is equally as disturbing, and that is the Genius act, the Guiding and Establishing National Innovation for US stablecoins Act. First of all, start with stablecoins. What are stablecoins?

Justin Haskins (25:09)

Okay, so stablecoins are a kind of cryptocurrency, so sort of like Bitcoin or Ethereum. It's built on blockchain technology. But unlike other kinds of cryptocurrencies, a stable coin is tied to something stable, its value. And in this case, we're talking about stable coins that are tied to the US dollar. So there are the two big.

Glenn Beck (25:32)

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. That's not stable. I don't know if you know that.

Justin Haskins (25:38)

Well, the value of the dollar is not stable. But the fact that one USD coin, for example, which is a kind of stablecoin, is tied always to $1 is stable. And that's what makes it a stable point.

Glenn Beck (25:52)

Okay, so what is this? This seems to be kind of a backdoor into some sort of, you know, cryptocurrency central bank digital currency, doesn't it?

Justin Haskins (26:10)

This, I think this is absolutely a backdoor to create a digital dollar in the United States. I think there's no question about it. Essentially right now you have stablecoins that are operating in the United States, been operating for a long time, but they're not backed by the US Government, they're not heavily regulated by the US Government. They don't have that stamp of approval. So when you use them, there's a risk that maybe the company isn't doing the things they promised to do or whatever. And so it's not backed by the federal government. This bill would essentially heavily regulate stablecoins, mandate that every stablecoin issuer have a one to one reserve ratio, meaning for every stablecoin they put out. They have to have $1 in reserves to back it up. And so people are going to trust stablecoins, institutions are going to trust stablecoins. We know this because there's all sorts of institutions on the record saying they support it, including all the big Wall street firms and everything they big banks, et cetera. And so in effect, this will become a digital dollar. Except there's. Which. Which might be a good thing because it might be better than a central bank digital currency in a lot of ways. And there's a lot of advantages to having a digital currency. The problem is there's no protections in this at all. None for individual liberty or privacy. Very few for privacy, none for individual liberty. So there's nothing stopping these, these new digital dollars from being used to control what people can buy, when people can buy, how these currencies are used, etc. There's nothing in it. And the people who are the primary investors behind the biggest stablecoin companies, many of the primary investors, maybe not all of them, but many of them are people that we don't trust. They're great reset people. They are BlackRock, for example. They are Fidelity, for example, for example. These are people who are WEF World Economic Forum folks. Okay, so these are. This is a very troubling development because if the government backs stablecoins and makes this something that becomes an institutional tool that's being used everywhere, you'll see more and more institutions adopt stablecoins, more and more individual Americans start to use them. And with no protections for individual liberty. And, and over time, you could wake up and have a stable coin that has rules tied to it that are related to ESG scores or something. And there would be no constitutional protections for people at all and no legislative protections in the law because they didn't write it into the law right now. And that's why there's some members of the Senate on the Republican side, not many, but some who are standing up, like Josh Hawley, for example, and, and saying this is, this is a really bad idea and we shouldn't do it.

Glenn Beck (29:04)

Justin, thank you so much. Would you do me a favor? Could you write something up and we'll put it up@glenn beck.com on all of this because I think it's really important do to do two stories, one on AI and then another one on stablecoins and what they're proposing.

Justin Haskins (29:23)

Yep, no problem.

Glenn Beck (29:24)

Thank you very much. Appreciate it. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. The coming insurrection. I think we are. I Think we're here. We're getting awfully darn close. Look at the things that are happening right now and the things that we said would happen and would all start be playing into each other. You know, this, this no Kings event next week, I'm looking into it here. I mean, Jason, I know you and the staff have been really looking into it, but June 14th, this is. This is it. In America, we don't do Kings. And on June 14th, we rise up. And this is. This is headed by Randy Weingarten, who is, you know, strange, the head of the teachers union. Why is she so passionate about all of this, I wonder? Anyway, she. On Monday, they're going to tell their governments and the communities no kings. Because what is happening, according to Randy Weingarten and this group is that Donald Trump has defiled our courts. Really? The ones who. Wait, weren't you guys just trying to. Packed the courts? Defiled our courts? Deported Americans. We haven't deported a single American. Have we? Deported a single American? Disappeared people off our streets. What the hell does that even mean? I mean, I know what it means. We're not doing that. Attacked our civil rights and slashed our services. I wish they would have slashed our services. Corruption has gone too far. No thrones, no crowns, no king. On June 14th, we rise up. What do you suppose that is going to look like in the midst of everything else that is going on? If you weren't for revolution, you would say, you know, guys, we've been working on the no Kings thing. Let's just hold off a little bit because we have California, Louisiana going on. This looks like it's starting to spread now. It's going to be in Boston, New York, Dallas, in last night. And it. Let's just, let's just hold off on this because we don't want to have, you know, another event where we've got, you know, 150 cities and these events going on, and we're not at every event, so we don't know who's actually organizing it. Let's be very, very careful. Let's take a breath here. They're not responsible people. That is not their goal to do reasonable things. Their goal is to create as much chaos as possible. I told you in beginning in 2008, look, the operative word for the future, the one word that you're going to need, because it's going to describe almost everything, is chaos. And anything that brings more chaos on the street is not a good thing. Stay away from people who are preaching chaos, law, order, constitutional principles. And principles that we find in the gospel of Jesus Christ those things run to everything else is going to be a real problem. And isn't it amazing how all of these things are just suddenly, spontaneously, all erupting? We did a show how many weeks ago, five weeks ago, where we said, what is your. What's your goal as a Democrat? Because you don't get elected on these things. You don't get elected by causing more chaos, by saying, hey, we're for the murderers and rapists. You don't get elected. The people are not for these things. And you're seeing it in poll after poll and in that special, I said, unless that's not your goal, unless your goal is chaos, now is the time to strike. And look where we are right now. You know, I have to say something about Dave Ramsey here for a second. I know this seems like a non sequitur, but it's not. You know, the. The Pro Israel event that I was just telling you is being canceled in Dallas. There was one in Nashville, and Dave is in Nashville, and it was canceled for the same reason. Dave apparently has a large compound and could have a thousand people or 1500 people at his. At his place. And so he hosted it and took great risk. And hats off to you, Dave. I've been sitting here thinking. After I read that, I was sitting here thinking, can we put that many people into our studios? And I just don't think we can. But, my gosh, there's a guy who's standing up for what he believes and putting his money where his mouth is. Putting his. Putting his safety where his mouth is. And thank you, Dave Ramsey, for doing that. It's a. You're a great man, truly a great man.

Stu Burguiere (34:54)

Greater than you, apparently, because he could pull it off and you could.

Glenn Beck (34:57)

Apparently. Well, I've worked with too many wusses. They'd be like, I glad.

Stu Burguiere (35:05)

I don't know. I'm in Dallas right now. Where are you? Interesting.

Glenn Beck (35:10)

I'm in an undisclosed location.

Stu Burguiere (35:14)

It's probably the smartest place to be these days.

Glenn Beck (35:16)

I was going to say, I'm smart. I'm up in the mountains, where, really, if you haven't thought about it, maybe you should consider it. I'm just saying. Let's see, what else haven't we. What else haven't we hit yet? Stu, that is important to get in before we lose our national broadcast time.

Stu Burguiere (35:35)

Hmm. That's a good question. We hit the. How about Brian Stelter? This is a fun one. Brian. What now? Brian Stelter is. He's out there making sure you understand these protests. First of all, he wants you to make sure, you know. Well, not you, Glenn. His friends that are texting him. He wants them to know that he has come on TV and said, it's just a very small slice of Los Angeles. Most people in Los Angeles are going about their business. Absolutely. Normally their lives are normal. They're unaffected.

Glenn Beck (36:16)

That's insight I couldn't have gotten from anybody else. Wait, so you're not saying every person in Los Angeles is on the streets?

Stu Burguiere (36:24)

No, I find that to be a fascinating thing because there's, like, a nice.

Glenn Beck (36:28)

Little.

Stu Burguiere (36:31)

I don't know, let them eat cake element to it I like, which is just like, oh, let those poor people get hit with rubber bullets while we cheer them on from our wonderful Hollywood mansions.

Glenn Beck (36:42)

I love that element of, like, ah, don't worry, it's just the plebes of society.

Stu Burguiere (36:49)

Yes. So he wants you to know about that. And, like, look, there's some relevance to that critique generally in these moments. Right. Like, at times we do get news. Just cuts out the perspective that entire cities aren't on fire. I do remember being on tour with you one time, Glenn, and we were doing theaters across the country. And I flip on the news, it was MSNBC at the time. And I see former cable news personality Rita Cosby. Do you remember Rita Cosby? She was on MSNBC for a few years back in the day. And I see her on a boat. She's on, like, a canoe. And she's on a boat and she's floating around.

Glenn Beck (37:30)

Yes. I remember this.

Stu Burguiere (37:31)

And I'm looking at it. I'm like, where is she? She's on. It's not in a river. She's on a street. There's so much flooding. She's on a boat on a street. And I'm like, oh, my gosh, where is she? And I realized she is legitimately, like, a block and a half from my house.

Glenn Beck (37:48)

And I remember you came in and you were like, I can't do the show. I my under. What? My kids might be dead. What do I help?

Stu Burguiere (37:56)

I'm texting my wife. I'm calling my live. Like, what's happening? She's on a boat right by the house. And. And it was. She was like, a block and a half from my house. And I finally got my wife on the phone, panicked that, like, my house is going to be flooding. What's going on? What do we need to do? And she's like, oh, well, I mean, there's. There's kind of like a big puddle at the end of our street. Is that what she's talking about? And not only was there only flooding right there in this one period, which floods all the time. Every restaurant in our town was open. Everyone was going about their business. Normally there was like one or two houses that were affected. Who that are right on the water, right on the river where we lived, but that was it. But, like, from my perspective watching it on msnbc, it appeared my house and all of its belongings were going to be floating down the Delaware river at any moment. So there is some level of context and perspective that is important in those moments, but it seemingly only happens when you're trying to downplay the violence of a riot on the left. And then today, Stelter's back on TV saying, one of the big problems with all of this is Twitter and an X, because what they're doing is echoing videos that could be. Glenn, you're not gonna believe this could be up to hours old. So, I mean, you can't understand it.

Glenn Beck (39:20)

Unlike television, that's everything's running things from Friday and Saturday.

Stu Burguiere (39:25)

Right?

Glenn Beck (39:25)

You know, it's up to hours old.

Stu Burguiere (39:28)

Could be hours old, maybe even a couple days old, Glenn. And that means you shouldn't care, I suppose.

Glenn Beck (39:35)

Can I ask you one of the shocking things that came out of what you were just talking about is that Brian Stelter is on tv. Who knew that was still happening someplace? But I want to ask you your question on that. Get your thoughts on this. Multiple people shot during D.C. pride parade after gay activists rejected security measures. Have you heard about the shooting at the Gay Pride Parade?

Stu Burguiere (40:01)

I have not, no.

Glenn Beck (40:02)

Okay. That is odd to me. Right? Isn't that odd? Right? There's a big Gay Pride parade shooting took place in Dupont Circle, a site traditionally used by the LGBTQ community, leaving one male injured. According to the Washington D.C. police Department, shooting has occurred. Police also alerted citizens of a stabbing that took place in the same area, which left two male victims suffering from stab wounds. Okay, so why haven't we heard about this? Because you would think that that would immediately be turned into, see, look, the Gay Pride Parade. Parade. They were told they needed security and they said, no, we don't need security, we're proud. And then, you know, nothing happened except some right wing extremists came out and were stabbing gay people and shooting gay people.

Stu Burguiere (40:55)

Did the wrong shooter commit this crime? Is that what is.

Glenn Beck (41:00)

When does that ever stop them? When does that ever stop?

Stu Burguiere (41:02)

No, it's true, though, but that. That's the only thing I could think of. Right. I mean, certainly if a, if a right wing group decided to target a gay pride parade, it would be literally the lead story for months.

Glenn Beck (41:11)

So, yeah, so it has to be four months.

Stu Burguiere (41:15)

Either just some general street crime which wants to be ignored, or it was, you know, somebody else.

Glenn Beck (41:22)

Gotta be street crime. It's gotta be street, just regular street crime. Because that's, that's crazy. By the way, the Global Gay Pride parade, that was apparently happening someplace here in America and it happens every year someplace globally, and this year it was America's turn. And they're saying that the turnout was about a third of what they expected. Apparently not so much pride in the Gay Pride parade this year. I guess. I don't really know. I don't really care, quite honestly. But I would like to blame it on Donald Trump because I, I, we haven't received any kind of, you know, official proclamation or, or any kind of presidential dictate on what we were supposed to do with, with Gay Month, with Gay Pride Month. And so I'm a little lost. I don't even have my tree up. Do you have your tree up? I don't, I don't, I don't know which flags to fly. I don't know when to fly them. I just don't know what parade to even attend right now. And it's, it's a little disturbing. There, there is one other story that we haven't gotten to, and that is RFK Jr. Has, has fired all 17 members of the CDC vaccine panel. Couldn't decide which one was worse. So he's like, ah, you know what? All of them. And I would just like to say thank you very much. All right, back in just a minute.

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