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Glenn Beck
Today's show is well worth listening to the whole thing. We have Kevin o' Leary on. Kevin is from Shark Tank. He is talking about the data centers particularly. He's the guy trying to build them in a county in Utah. So we talk about everything. And the insiders had a lot of opinions, both good and bad. And you really need to hear this argument for yourself. And it's the beginning of a series that we will do on this program. Also, is Trump running a new season of the Apprentice with Marco Rubio and the truth about the Democratic socialists of America? Communism1 you have to hear. And if you're a fan of this show for a long time, it takes you back to the chalkboards of 2008. You don't want to miss it. On today's podcast, as we celebrate America's 250th birthday this year, I'd like to ask you a question. How much of the beef on America's grills actually come from America? The answer is probably going to surprise you. More than 85% of the grass fed beef sold in grocery stores is not from America. 85. That's not good. One of the reasons I like Good Ranchers is because of that number. They partner with local farmers and ranchers to deliver 100% American meat straight to your door. No imported mystery meat, just high quality American beef, chicken, pork and seafood raised right here. I love what they're doing, bridging the gap between American families and American farms. This July, Good Ranchers is celebrating all 50 states with $50 off anything on their site. Just visit goodranchers.com use the promo code Glenn at checkout, get 50 off anything on their site. Remember, that's my code, Glenn. 50 off goodranchers.com that's goodranchers.com this summer is one to savor. Goodranchers.com American meat delivered. Hello America. You know we've been fighting every single day. We push back against the lies, the censorship, the nonsense of the mainstream media that they're trying to feed you. We work tirelessly to bring you the unfiltered truth because you deserve it. But to keep this fight going, we need you right now. Would you take a moment and rate and review the Glenn Beck podcast? Give us five stars and leave a comment. Because every single review helps us break through Big Tech's algorithm to reach more Americans who need to hear the truth. This isn't a podcast. This is a movement. And you're part of it. A big part of it. So if you believe in what we're doing you want more people to wake up? Help us push this podcast to the top rate review. Share together we'll make a difference. And thanks for standing with us. Now let's get to work. You're listening to the Best of the Glenn Beck Program. I want to give you an observation and I, I don't know, I'm going to tie it to some facts and then you can draw your own conclusion. I don't know what I'm about to tell you, if the conclusion is accurate or not, but it feels right to me.
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Kevin O'Leary
Me.
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Glenn Beck
You watch Marco Rubio. I think we're in the game of the Apprentice. I really do. I, I think that's what we're watching, a real life Apprentice. There are memes that go around. And memes are funny because, you know, they're mostly true. Okay. And the memes that go around are that Rubio is running everything. You know, you've seen the meme. There he is, the meme of him on the couch as Maduro. Uh, there he, there he is, is the Mullah of Iran. I mean, because he has all these jobs, right? Secretary of State sworn in January 21, 2025. Then he was made the acting administrator of USAID in February. There's two jobs. Then acting Archivist of the United States in February. Then acting National Security Adviser on the first of May. Mike Walsh was moved to the un so that's four offices for a stretch there, he held all four jobs at the same time. One man, four hats.
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Kevin O'Leary
Okay.
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Glenn Beck
And that's just the titles because underneath all of those titles, he's been handed the Venezuela transition after Maduro. He's been in the room and sometimes at the head of the table on Russia and Ukraine. He also co led the Iran briefings on the Hill. If there's a fire on the planet, you know, I'm not, I'm not sure if Marco does it. There's another forest fire out west. I'm not sure if he's like, Marco, you gotta go out and hold the hose. Not sure. The easy read in this for me is Trump doesn't trust anybody. He doesn't trust anybody. He trusts people who can get the job done. Everybody in his organization, they're always double tasked. Nobody ever in his organization ever says, that's not my job. So the cynical reach here is that you would say, well, he just doesn't have a lot of good people around him. But that's not true. Let me give you another perspective because it keeps coming to me. I, I talked to, I don't remember which one of the Trump sons, years ago, and we were talking, I was like, what? What was it like to grow up with Donald Trump as your dad? And he said, dad had a rule, laid it down when we were kids. If you ever want to take over this business, you have to know every single job that is done. Everything you have to know. Because if, if you not have a briefing on it, you have to do it. Start at the bottom, sweep the floors, learn the pipe fitting, learn concrete pouring, all of it. Because if you don't know what everybody does, people are gonna be able to BS you. Okay? And I think that's what happened to Donald Trump in the first term. He was a little BS'd by people cuz he didn't know exactly. He knows it now. So Marco Rubio, in 18 months, has run American diplomacy, foreign aid, national security apparatus, our archives. He has been negotiating wars, negotiating peace treaties. I should say he's done all of it. He's done all of it. Tell me that's not damn near every job in the building. I mean, he's the keeper of the nation's records, the man who holds the paper diplomacy, money, war, memory, all of it. Trump has said out loud more than once. He told me before he, when he was running in 2024. I said, can you get this done in four years? He said, Four. I've got two. I'm a lame duck after two years. He said, so I gotta get. I gotta get all of the heavy lifting done in the first two years, and then we need two more terms.
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Kevin O'Leary
Hmm.
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Glenn Beck
We need 12 years, Glenn, if you really want to kill this, you have to have three terms. So he's serving the first one, which means somewhere in the back of his mind is the question, who is going to succeed? Who's going to succeed me? Who's going to be the guy who steps in and can do eight terms that gets it? So here's my question to you. Is Marco Rubio doing what Donald Trump's sons have done? Is Donald Trump schooling Marco Rubio? Whether he says it out loud, whether he even knows it himself, is that what's happening now? I know that sounds weird, but I think we're watching the Apprentice. But let me take you to 1814, Washington, D.C. literally on fire. British have burned the Capitol, they burned the White House. The President of the United States is James Madison at the time, and he's a fugitive in his own capital city. Okay? Secretary of War is John Armstrong, and he failed so horribly, he's driven from office in Disgrace. Because they just burned down the Capitol and the White House. The man's nearly mobbed in the streets. So Madison turns, who do I trust? He takes James Monroe, who's the Secretary of War. Monroe is still the Secretary of State. Now he's the Secretary of State and the Secretary of War. He has both jobs at once. It's the only time in American history where a president has made the same person fill two roles in a cabinet. Okay, two cabinet office offices filled simultaneously. Only time it ever happened. But he also said, you're not going to do this behind your desk. Before the Battle of Bladensburg, Monroe rides out on horseback to scout the British columns himself because he doesn't trust the reports that are coming in. So the Secretary of the United States and the Secretary of War, both the same guy in the same saddle, goes out and counts the enemy troops with his own eyes. The guy didn't sleep for six months. Smoke clears. James Monroe is the most obvious successor in the country for the President. And he wins the presidency in 1816, reelected in 1820, and he's reelected with all but one electoral vote. They named an entire era after how good everybody felt about it. And Marco Rubio is much more of a feel good kind of guy. I mean, he is tough as nails. I never thought this about Marco Rubio. I really liked Marco Rubio. And when did he run the first time? 2016. I really liked him, but he seemed kind of squishy. That guy's not squishy anymore. Not at all. So James Monroe was not Madison's protege. James Monroe was Madison's rival. In 1808, Monroe ran against Madison for the nomination. And Monroe lost. And it was bitter. And they. They had been friends from the beginning, since the revolution, and they stopped speaking for years. So Madison brings him back, not out of affection, but out of necessity, because the house is burning, literally. Monroe's the only one Madison believed could carry the water. Now think about the ugliest primary of our time. It had to be 20 in my lifetime. It has to be 2016. Little, little Marco. Think about the little hands. Think about what those two said to each other on the debate stage in 2016. Then look who's sitting in the second chair on Air Force One in 2026. History doesn't repeat, but sometimes it rhymes so hard your teeth hurt. You know, there's a pipeline that people have forgotten. 1801-1837, Secretary of State's office was the on ramp to the presidency. Jefferson, Secretary of State was Madison, who became President. Madison Monroe, who became president. Monroe Secretary of State was John Quincy Adams, who became president. Jackson's was Martin Van Buren, who became president. It was so automatic that ambitious men, they schemed for the job. That was that. They didn't want the vice president. They wanted that one. And then when it stopped with James Buchanan in 1857, that's the last Secretary of State to ever become President of the United States. That's 169 years ago. Hillary Clinton had that job. John Kerry had that job. Colin Powell begged, was begged to run. Not one of them made it. In modern America, the Secretary of State's office is not an escalator. It's a cul de sac. You come in and you go out. It's not an escalator. But I think because the Secretary of State always seems so damn pompous and so about other countries, that's why this ICC thing is so important for Rubio to head. Look, Donald Trump could have come out and said, I don't want anything to do with the International Criminal Court, but he let Marco do it instead. So Marco is the one saying, it's gotta be about America, not foreigners. That's not the Secretary of State. As I grew up looking at the Secretary of State. Secretary of State was always about, yeah, being the person, you know, for the United States. But they're also, you know, they're very diplomatic. They don't ruffle any feathers. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Donald Trump doesn't anoint anyone. Donald Trump has never anointed anybody in his life. The show that made him a household name is called the Apprentice, not the Heir. The Apprentice. The entire premise, the entire moral architecture of that program was that nobody is handed anything. You have to earn it. 16 people fight for it in front of the whole world. And every week, somebody is sent home, and the guy who wins, wins because he performed the, not because he was owed. That's, again, different than what we have seen. It's always, well, it's his turn. Why, why. Why did. Why did they pick Biden? Why was that such a big deal? Because it was his turn. Why was Hillary Clinton so upset in 08 that you get Barack Obama? Because it was her turn.
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Kevin O'Leary
Mm. Mm.
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Glenn Beck
It's not her turn. It's not anybody's turn. You have to earn it. You know, we tried this. Do I have time to tell this story? We tried this for 24 years. The nominee for president, believe it or not, was chosen by a caucus of congressmen in a room, and they actually called it the King Caucus. Not by the voters, not by convention. A room. And in 1924 the room met a fewer than a third of Congress even bothered to show up. And they nominated a guy named William Crawford. Now you this what, this is what the, the system will spit out eventually. After 24 years. William Crawford is the guy. He had suffered a stroke, was partially paralyzed and could barely see. That's the machine. That, that's what the machine picked their heir, the groomed man. Cause it was his turn. And the American people looked at and they were like, no, no. And so Andrew Jackson took the case right to the voters. And after 1824, nobody tried the King caucus again. That was over. That was the most anti establishment act in the first 50 years of this country. And it was ordinary Americans firing the people. They thought the presidency was theirs to hand out. That's what Donald Trump has done. I think that's one of the reasons why he likes Jackson, because there's a lot of reasons to hate Jackson, but he was anti establishment and he took the little. If the King caucus isn't what the Democrats do right now, now we'll tell you who to run. Not a lot has changed. So I'm not telling you that Marcus, you know, Marco Rubio is going to be the guy that, you know, Donald Trump, you know, wants or anything else. I'm just telling you that he's being forged. Diplomacy, war, money, memory. He's learning every job in the building the way a certain father taught a certain set of sons, you know, and whether the President is doing this on purpose or whether the house is just on fire and Rubio is the only one that can write out, you know, and count the columns himself. The result is exactly the same. You can't fake what that does to a guy. You either come out of it as Monroe or you don't come out at all. But nobody hands you this country. Not a caucus, not a party, not a president. And that's not a flaw in the plan. That is the plan. So I, I just say watch what Marco Rubio is doing. I think it's very interesting that he was the guy and not the President. He's the guy as the Secretary of State who comes out and says, the icc, the icc, we're done, we're out. Because it's wrong for America. The world doesn't control us. I'm wondering if he's being groomed. All right, let me tell you about our sponsor. It's Chapter. You know, we don't ask enough for directions, you know, and I'm not Just talking about driving. We get stuck on a home repair, but we don't want to call somebody who knows what they're doing. So we struggle with, you know, with what we're doing, and we struggle with a computer problem for an hour before admitting we need help. 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This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. Okay, Kevin o' Leary is with us Now. I want to start this out with. I am a. I have warned about AI since the 1990s. And I said, you know, AI is going to be wonderful, and then we're going to get AGI and that's going to be a little crazy, and then we'll get a si. And that is terrifying, quite honestly, to me. A lot of times when I first started talking about it, people said, no, no, no, AGI is not even possible. And I think we're on the verge of AGI. So I have been warning about AI, but I also believe that AI is one of the greatest tools man has ever created. But we must always remember it is a tool. Now to be able to have the compute power for these systems, we have to have data centers all over, which means we have to have power. And we also have to be willing to build the data centers, not going to pay for them. The companies that are all going to put us out of business, and we'll all be. We'll all be slaves to them eventually. They have to pay for it. Now, as these data centers are being built, there's a lot of people that say, I don't want that in My community for several reasons. I personally believe they have to be built. Where they're built is a different story. What I don't like is the fact that in some places it feels almost as if these big tech companies are coming in and they're just making a deal with the city council and you're not involved. This is your life. If we don't build data centers, China will own us in every way possible. And I mean personally will own you personally. AI. The United States must be the victor in this. We must have the data centers. However, there's really good questions that have to be asked because this is your life. And I do not want big tech making the decision anymore. We already saw what big tech did when they came out. You know, with the greatest tool ever. Everybody's going to be able to talk to each other. We'll be able to check on our families. It's called social media. And we saw how that worked out. We have to have a reasonable conversation about AI and the data centers. And I thought the person to do that would be Kevin o', Leary, who is here. Hi, Kevin, how are you?
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Kevin O'Leary
Great to be here. Thank you.
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Glenn Beck
Thank you. Did I set this up properly in your book? Where do you disagree with me on these things?
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Kevin O'Leary
I don't disagree with anything you said, Glenn. That's actually a very good platform that you set up for us to have a intelligent narrative about this debate, particularly on that of defense, the future of the individual, because I am in the same boat you're in. I think we're in a very, very difficult situation with our adversaries in China. I've been dealing in China since they came into the World Trade organization back in 2000. They haven't played by the rules in case anybody before we were worried about AI. And so I have no problem with the Chinese people. I have a huge problem with the Chinese government and their policy. So just to set the stage on that one vertical topic, which I think is a good one to start with, you said it and you were right. Data centers aren't really about data centers. They're about power. You can't have any compute, you can't have your cell phone working, the cell tower working, the economy working if you don't have power. So in the last 18 months, the Chinese using primarily coal burning turbines because they don't care about the environment or do they need a permit? The big guy says put one here. And that's how it happens. They've built 400 gigawatts of new power for China. Its Economy and its efforts to dominate AI. How many have we built that's new in America? Zero. Now I'm just talking about power. So we've got to get our poo poo together and start thinking about adding to the grid here so that we can compete as an economy, not just on AI. We need power. We're tapped out everywhere. And so one of the things you see is a negative in places like West Virginia, Virginia, Mississippi, Tennessee, Utah, you name it. As people say, well, my power bill is going to go up if you put a data center here. Well, the new rule of engagement should be this as part of the national solution is if I'm going to bring a data center anywhere, I got to bring my own power. I got to spend billions to build power and then give some of it back to the grid so we can stay competitive. We need the data centers, we need the power, we need them both. And so there is a solution here and that's how we're going to do it in Utah. Utah is not my only project. I've got projects in Norway and Finland and Canada. But Utah is particularly important for America because of what it, what it means for national defense. You nailed it.
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Glenn Beck
Okay, so, so, so Kevin, because this is, I've been talking about this one in Utah and I understand the people of Utah and I understand what they're worried about and quite honestly I am too. But I, you know, I said there is a solution to these things and you just gave part of that solution and that is you have to build your own power. And I said, you know, negotiate with these companies and say, look, you want the data center, great. You bring in your own power. But we also want X percentage of power put in here and we don't want to be charged for any infrastructure that is revolves around anything to do with this data center. You have to bring this asset to the community. You have to say this, we're going to help the community because you're not going to really be creating jobs long term. So what are you going to create? Power.
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Kevin O'Leary
Hold on, Bubba Louie, not so fast on the jobs. Not so fast on the jobs. Let me give you the numbers. 4,000 construction jobs just for the first phase. 2,000 permanent jobs to maintain it. And those are engineering and support jobs, Very high paying. Not true about the jobs. That's a lot of jobs. That's a lot of jobs. Including all of the additional stuff we have to do for the community, which no one's been talking about. New fire trucks, we got to provide hotels to put These construction workers in for two years. We got to have permanent, you know, support for schooling. There's so much stuff we're going to give back to the community just to make sure our data center, we have, we have to employ, we have to find these people to employ them. Thank goodness. Utah's highly educated workforce. Northrop Grumman is just a few miles away. The Hill Air Force Base. I got jobs, my friend. I got a lot of jobs, a lot of jobs. And I need the people there to want to work. So I've got my work cut out for me.
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Glenn Beck
Okay, so the other thing, power jobs. You just answered both of those. The second thing is. Or the third thing is water. Is it true it needs water or not needs water? Because you're building it in. Utah is the high desert. So what's the truth on water?
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Kevin O'Leary
That is probably the topic for Utah, given the situation in the Great Salt Lake that is slowly going down and people have a huge concern about that. So let me tell you the facts. The new modern era data center does not require anywhere near the water that was used 15 years ago in Virginia, where data centers got a bad name because of how much water they consumed. And there's two reasons for that. The power generation itself, for the electricity to drive the chips. There's many solutions now that are air cooled, so they don't require anywhere near as much water. And the actual cooling of the chip itself is now done like a car radiator. It's a closed loop system which was not available back 20 years ago. So those are two massive reductions. But people ask me, well, put it in context. Is it cheap true that this is going to use all the water in Utah and the whole lake is going to be drained? That's a complete falsehood. This data center's first phase, about 1.4 gigs, is going to be no different than a golf course in Utah. So that you should look at it in terms of how many golf courses in Utah are using water. Because data centers, not just my project, any new data center now is like a golf course. So, you know, my attitude is, look, let's get realistic about the facts. And the way you learn that, I don't want people to trust me. I want them to look at the water permit application I'm going to put in in late August that is forced to show exactly the engineering requirements exactly to the gallon that we have to get to make this work. The permitting process is not being circumvented anywhere, including Box Elder County. You can't, you got to get epa, you got to get states, you got to get water, you got to get noise, you got to get light. All of that has to be permitted. So there's total control there. To see this on a public basis. And what I've done, given all the brouhaha that occurred in box elder since May 5, is I called up all of the TV networks there and they all have representation and all the journalists and said, here's my personal cell number. You text me when you have a question. Don't let anybody put words in my mouth for me. You call me and I'll talk to you and give you the facts. And I promised all of them they will get the same information the second I apply for the permit on water, which comes first. That's a. Glenn, that's the biggest topic in Utah's water.
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Glenn Beck
Yeah, yeah.
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Kevin O'Leary
We got to get this right. And so that's why I'm encouraged that at least you and I are having this narrative. And I'm trying to put it straight, but I have a lot of work ahead of me.
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Glenn Beck
So Kevin, how do you generate? What kind of power generation are you using? Because I mean, doesn't it always come back down to you got to make steam, that steam push pushes then a turbine and then you can generate. I mean, no matter what it is, it usually uses steam, doesn't it? What are you going to use to make power?
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Kevin O'Leary
Well, think about this. Think about you're one of the tenants which I have to negotiate with. The hyperscalers, the SpaceX, the Microsoft, the Google, whoever it is. Let's just take Box Elder county because we're talking about Utah. Every single person I'm going to guess in Box Elder county, all you know, everyone has a cell phone. So they talk to their kids. That's how they run their businesses. They're already using a data center. They're already customers of all the aforementioned hyperscalers. If you're an Amazon or you're a Microsoft or you're Google, the last thing you want to do in Box Elder county is piss off your customer. They're not stupid. So what they're telling us that the people that are risking the $16 billion, half in debt, half in equity, that's what's going to cost me to build. The first phase is you show us your proposals for power and we'll tell you what we want. And most of them now are looking for combination of nat gas, natural gas, air cooled turbines, solar and sodium lithium battery combinations so that you can build out if you have enough Land solar panels that drive grabbing energy during the day. And Utah's pretty good. It's a semi desert. You're filling up those sodium lithium batteries and then you're fueling the nighttime activity in the data center. So a combination of all of the above. The Ruby pipeline there is at about 17% capacity. So we can use some of that. We have to spend billions to get all that set up. But then the turbines themselves can be air cooled or combination of water. Air cooled. Put that part of the water permit. And then of course we need toilets and kitchens and all that stuff. People need water, so we're gonna use water there. But at the end of the day, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna be no different than in phase one. He's gonna be a golf course. No different.
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Glenn Beck
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Kevin O'Leary
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Glenn Beck
Okay, so I want to tell you the story of the Democratic Socialists of America. And I gotta tell you, when I started digging into this, I'm like, oh geez, I've seen this story before. If you have been watching me for any time, this will take you back to the chalkboard days. And maybe in a couple of weeks I'll do a chalkboard for insiders after the show on the Democratic Socialist because it sounds so familiar. Democratic Socialist America, it has a governing board. It's called the National Political committee after the 2025 National Convention. The far left news aggregator, Not a conservative outfit, the Manhattan or the Manhattan Institute. But one of theirs did account on that board and published the count. How many communists are on the board after the 2025 National Convention? How many in the Democratic Socialist are actual communists? 51.9% are actual self avowed communists, 14.8% are middle between socialist and communist. And 33% are what are called reformists. What does that mean? I have no idea. They didn't publish this as a warning, okay? They published this as a scoreboard. And on the Fourth of July on America's 250th birthday, the DSA announced it had passed 120,000 members. And they put that out with pride. They noted correctly that this makes them the largest socialist organization in the history of the United States. That's bigger than when Eugene Debs started the Socialist party back in 1912. That was the peak of it. It's bigger than the Communist Party USA have, has ever been. Even in 1947 when Stalin still had friends in Hollywood and and And Russia was an ally. Okay? 10 years ago, they had 6,000 people. 6,000. That's a decent high school now in major cities now It's. Now it's 120. Let me show you where this organization came from, because the story is not what you think it is and what anybody in the media is ever going to tell you. The man who founded it would be sick to his stomach today. His name was Michael Harrington. In 1962, Michael Harrington wrote a book called the Other America. Ricky, get that, get. Have the library get me a copy, original copy of that book, would you? The. The Other America. It's about the invisible poor. John Kennedy read it and helped him kick off the war on poverty. Okay, from the Other America. And Michael Harrington. Harrington was a socialist, but he was also, and this is a part that nobody will tell you, he was also a ferocious anti communist. He believed that the Soviet Union was a lie and a prison. And he believed the American left had to say so out loud every time without a single word of hedging, because he did believe that there was a difference between socialism and communism. And he made that very clear. So the same year, 1962, a group of students meet at the UAW retreat in Port Huron, Wisconsin, and they write a manifesto. Students for a democratic society. SDS. This is where the old chalkboards come in from 2008. Tom Hayden held the pin there, and SDS at that point was still under the wing of the older labor socialist outfit that had one rule, one rule. And it was an exclusion clause, that exclusion clause. And they, the teachers union in California had it up until 2008. They excluded one group you could not join if you were, were, or ever had been or are a communist. Now, that rule existed because the men who wrote it had watched the communists hollow out one organization after another in the 30s. And they had learned you let a communist in and they're just going to devour you. So Harrington reads the Port Huron statement and he goes to war. Not over, you know, economics, over just one thing. The kids refused to condemn the Soviet Union without qualification. They wanted. They wanted to be, in the, in the phrase of the era, anti anti communists. They thought the exclusion clause was a relic. It was something, you know, a loyalty oath. And it was embarrassing. Only something your. Our father's worried about with McCarthy. And Harrington is like, no, you don't understand. You don't know history. I fought these people. So he fought these people with sds and he lost. And he later said, I handled it really, really badly. But in 1965 SDS took the exclusion clause out of its constitution. Now, here's what happened next, because you're watching the exact same real play again today. With the door open now to Communists, a Maoist outfit called Progressive labor walked into SDS and started taking it over from the inside. Remember, this is a Maoist communist group, but they name themselves Progressive Labor. Why? Because that's what communists always do. They took this thing over chapter by chapter and caucus by caucus exactly what's happening with the Democrats. By the summer of 1969, the National Convention in Chicago blew apart what came out. The other side was no longer a student group. Okay. Sds, as I taught you on the chalkboards a year ago, was now the Weatherman. The days of rage that came that October. In March of 1970, a townhouse in Greenwich Village blew up because the people inside, all former SDS members, all part of the Weather Underground now, were building nail bombs. And they didn't know what they were doing. A bomb goes off and three of them die. That's the arc from a manifesto about participatory democracy to getting rid of the exclusion clause. No Communist to a nail bomb, all in seven years. Okay, the hinge here, the only hinge on this, was the day they removed the rule that kept out the communists. They thought they were just removing a relic, but they were removing a wall. An important wall. And Michael Harrington spent the rest of his life building an organization that would never make that mistake. In 1982, he merged his group with another group called the Democratic Socialist of America. And the DSA carried in its bones a ban on something called democratic centralism. What the hell is that? Well, if you know anything about Lenin, it's a Leninist rule that you fight behind closed doors and then present one face to the public. One line, one voice. No dissent. Harrington's people said, no, we're not doing that. It was, in the words of a DSA member, a holdover from the group's anti communist period and a ward against entry. Autism. What the hell does that mean? You know, one reason I hate communists is they make me learn a whole new language. Okay.
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Kevin O'Leary
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Glenn Beck
The award against entry. It is award like a charm you hang on the door. 2025, national convention. The DSA repealed this ward again. Okay, now entry. Entry ism. What the hell is that? Strotsky, 1934. He fought. He told his followers in France to dissolve their little party and walk into the big Socialist party. Not to join it, but to eat it. From the youth wing outward, it has a name. In the trade because it works, and it's worked here before. And the people doing it right now are not even being coy about it. There's a caucus inside the DSA that published an essay titled Communists Belong in the dsa. I'm telling you, gang, you might be a socialist and go, no, no, it's socialism. We don't want anything to do with communism. I don't think there's that many people fighting against it, honestly. But if there are, that's you. It's already written. It's already done. Okay? You took away. You took away the ban on communism. A couple of DSA guys went on a podcast recently, and they explained that the organization is the most fruitful ground they've got because the members there are open to the most radical position in the room. That's not my characterization. That's their characterization. That's a recruiting pitch said out loud in a microphone. You're crazy. You want to. Do you want communism? Come on in. We'll listen to you. And when it comes to running the place, don't listen to the press. Don't listen to me. Let the votes tell you there's a Maoist in the DSA who goes by Black Red Guard, whose caucus put out a statement supporting the man accused of gunning down two Israeli embassy staffers. Remember the male and female that were killed? They were going to be married. Okay. Outside of a Museum in Washington, D.C. black Red Guard in the DSA puts out a statement supporting that guy. He got himself elected to something the DSA calls its Red Rabbits Security Commission. So let me. Let me focus this here for you. A member of the National Board removed. Moved to remove this guy. The motion failed 15 to 10. Ten people out of 25 thought a caucus that celebrates an assassin should not be running their security. Only 10. Last month, the Marxist Unity group put out an Amendment to the DSA's National Program. It passed 1211. What does that say? Listen to this. You think they don't want to change the United States fundamentally? Get away from the Constitution and the Declaration. This is what they just passed. That the presidency and the Supreme Court of the United States should be abolished and replaced with bodies chosen by Congress and subordinate to Congress. We're not talking about extra help. See, this is. This is what they said on the View. You know, I'm for firefighters and they're socialists. No, they're not. No, they're not. And that's. Even if they were, that's not what we're talking about anymore. They just passed 12 to 11. The new policy. The presidency and the Supreme Court of the United States should be abolished and replaced with bodies chosen by Congress and subordinate to Congress. Now you can say it all you want, but you're the people that told me that, you know, there were no such things as Marcus, Marxist or Islamist. And if there were, they would never rise to power. Mamdani, by the way, separation of powers, it's not just a feature of the American system. It is the American system. So the amendment is a proposal to end the Republic. And it was passed by the board of the largest socialist organization in America, the largest one in history by one vote. And I would bet you a year's salary that you've never heard this from anybody in the mainstream media. So here's what Democrats need to know. This is not your Democratic Party of your father. Okay, I want to be precise, what it used to mean. Because the Democrats have a history that is, you know, better than they remember and better than we give them credit for on this particular thing. In 1947, American liberals founded Americans for Democratic Action. And they wrote it into a rule, no Communists not we disagree with Communists not we don't want any in the building. And Eleanor Roosevelt signed on. Reinhold Niemoller, Arthur Schlesinger, Hubert. Hubert Humphrey, which is he? This guy in Minnesota, he was the most liberal guy ever, okay? In 1947, he and Orville Freeman spent 1948 physically driving the fellow travelers out of the Democratic Farmer Labor Party, which is damn near communist now, precinct by precinct in a knife fight. And it took better than a year. That same year, Henry Wallace ran for president as the candidate of the Popular Front. And American Liberals buried him 2.4% 0 electoral votes. Okay? So I want you to remember 1954, Hubert Humphrey, the most liberal man in the United States Senate. The man who forced civil rights onto the Democratic party's platform, which cost them the south co sponsored a bill to outlaw the Communist party in the United States. That's from the left. Okay, the most liberal guy. No, communist. It's called the Communist Control Act. Look it up. Still on the books. That was the Democratic Party your father argued with. He thought they were wrong. Not just about taxes. He thought, you know, he knew they were not unclear about America and where the principles they fought for. And now this generation has no idea. So the Democrats had antibodies, ugly ones, sometimes clumsy ones, but antibodies. And they used them because they had watched what happened to every left wing party in Europe that didn't have antibodies. And the antibodies are all Gone now. They're not weakened, they're repealed. Vote by vote at a convention in 2025. So don't tell me the person flirting with this is harmless. Don't tell me it's a phase. It's a T shirt. It's a Che poster. A kid who read half of Marx and is growing out of it. The people who removed the exclusion clause from SDS in 1965 were not monsters. They were decent. They were idealistic. They were generous hearted kids who thought the old men were paranoid. And that's the same thing. Seven years later, three of them were de in a basement with a bomb they were building. Because here's the thing about this idea. And it's the only thing that has ever mattered about communism. It's not an economic theory that went badly. It's the theory of human beings. And it says you're not an individual. You're not endowed by your creator. You don't have infinite and unrepeatable worth. It says you're a member of a class and you're replaceable once you're a member of that class instead of a soul. Everything else is arithmetic. Math can't afford that. Well, we have to just figure out mathematically which one gets it, which one doesn't. 100 million dead last century. That's arithmetic. You don't get to a gulag from I care about the poor. You get there from you're not a person, you're a category. So don't dismiss it. Not because the 22 year old in the DSA meeting is dangerous. He is, and I'm sure he's lovely. He'll help you carry the groceries. You don't dismiss it because the idea is patient and it's done it over and over and over again. And it always enters through the good people who took the ward off the door. The North Koreans call it the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Forget about the name. The name's not the guide. The name has never been the guide. Look at the votes and what they actually believe. 51% are self avowed communists. Oh, he's craving his communists. He's crazy. Okay, whatever. Ignore me again.