John (from Britain's Got Talent) (4:13)

My name is John. I'm 41. I'm originally from Wales, but now living in Essex. Could I look you in the eye? You're just like, hang on, John.

Glenn Beck (4:29)

John, I think we should start this again.

John (from Britain's Got Talent) (4:37)

I wish I was special, but I'm a creep. I'm a widow. What the hell am I doing here? I don't belong here.

Glenn Beck (6:00)

Yes, you do. I mean, I'm soupy again. I'm like, what is happening to me? And I'm. I'm watching that and I don't know, maybe it's. Maybe it's the little guy I'm having a hard time holding together. This is so weird. Maybe it's the little guy that is making it the guy who really thinks I'm alone. I'm a creep. I don't belong. And yet they do, but they don't know it. Maybe it's because the other day when they had the splashdown. Can you play the splashdown of the astronauts? And we're going to stand by for splashdown located in the Gulf of America off the coast of Tallahassee, Florida. And Splashdown Crew 9 back on Earth. Okay, again, it's splash. I've seen this a million times. And all of a sudden my eyes well up again and I'm like, what is happening to me? I don't know if this is. It could just be me. I might be doing a monologue of for one. But in thinking over the last few years, my gosh, I'm getting so hard inside and where nothing was really moving me to now, for some unknown reason, I don't know, maybe it's. I don't know, maybe I'm dying. I don't know. I have no idea. Oh, geez. Maybe. Maybe I'm transitioning into a sappy little girl. I don't know. But I think maybe I had given up on. It. Wasn't. I wasn't seeing examples of the little guy winning. I wasn't seeing examples of heroic feats. I was seeing politics and politicians and things that I just knew were lies. Nobody paying a price and nobody reaching out and going, I'm going there. And now we're in this season where all of that which I think is truly American is coming back, is alive again, where the little guy can win. The little guy, they do care about him. The President just abandoned these astronauts in space because he didn't want it to look bad for him. I mean, one of the American principles, something that is in all of us, is we don't leave anyone behind. And we did. I mean, everything felt too tough and no one could get anything done. And. And then we had the change in the presidency, and now all has to be done. Is Elon Musk a guy who they're trying to destroy right now? Elon Musk said, I can go up and get them. I mean, think of that. Who. Who in on the planet can say, I can do that? I'll go get him. And he does, and it's successful, and it's heroic. And the astronauts, they didn't badmouth anybody. They didn't. They. They shared. You know, no matter what happens to us, it's going to be fine. It's going to be great. Just that heroic stance of praise God, even if I burn up in the atmosphere. Wow. I don't know if anybody else is feeling this, but maybe. Maybe this is a really good sign that things are becoming real again. And we're seeing in this in an age where AI is growing at leaps and bounds, that we're seeing that inner strength. We're seeing that one thing that makes us human. You can't do that. Oh, yes, I can. And I'm going to, because I got this way on another story that I really have no reason to care about. Let me tell you this story. Read this today. It's in our show prep. It's a story in a place that is just as deadliest as space. You know, the line is, in space, no one can hear you scream. Well, the same thing here, except it's on Earth and there is no Elon Musk to do a rescue. And it is a desolate, windswept, barren land where the sun hasn't set in months. But now it's entering a time where it won't rise for months. So it will be completely dark, little colder. Thermometer on a good day right now is 13 degrees below zero. And that's without the wind chill. And the wind blows all the time. The ice stretches out in every direction. It's endless. It's unyielding. It is a frozen prison. It is just like the bottom of the sea. Space on Earth, except we call it the South Pole. And right now, there are nine members of the South African National Antarctic Program. They're fighting for their lives at the Sane 4 base. And it's not that they're. They've been abandoned by anybody. There's just no resource. Their government has to rescue them. They are. I think this isn't a story of researchers because these researchers are down there for global warming and everything else. And, you know, the story I read had all of that stuff in it. I don't think it's about the research that they're doing. That's why they're so heroic, because they're. No, I think what's amazing about this story is they're finding out who they really are. And let me set the scene for you. There is Dr. Lawana, a guy. He's a dermatologist and a physiologist. I don't know what he has to do with global warming. I don't want to get sidetracked. Then you have eight other people, engineers, meteorologists, et cetera, et cetera. And they arrived at this base in December 2023, and they were supposed to be relieved in February, but the replacements never came because the ship that was supposed to bring the new team got stuck in Cape Town because it had mechanical issues. And now these nine are stranded and they're facing a 13 month winter in one of the most hostile places on Earth. They're at a base camp that's perched on this rocky outcrop and it's surrounded by glacial ice. I mean they're not sitting inside with hot cocoa and blankets and you know, going skiing. There they are trying to survive. This place where the wind on average is like 60 miles an hour and the ice, they just face this. The ice can swallow you whole. They were just facing something, I don't remember what it was called, it's in the story, but they're facing something where the ice can start to contract and start to come in. And they thought the entire station that was built in the 70s was going to be swallowed up and crushed by the ice. What do we do? Do we get crushed inside or we wait outside with no help coming and just freeze to death? What do you do? The closest help is 2500 miles away. That's the distance between New York and Los Angeles. But there's no highways. There's a little cute little hotel and a cafe or gas station along the way. There's nothing but ice. An ice filled ocean storms that sink ships all the time. The ship that was supposed to pick them up, that's their lifeline under repair. And even if it would set sail today, it will take weeks if not months to reach them. And in the meantime they're on their own. Dwindling supplies, the Antarctic winter closing in. And it's not like people in South Africa have forgotten about this team is a source of national pride. This base, I think they've been at this base off and on since the 1960s and it's their commitment to global cooperation. So it's a big deal to them. And it's, you know, a cluster of buildings that are up above the ice so it's just not buried by snow all the time. Inside right now, the lights are flickering on and off. The generator struggles against the cold. This is normal. The team is huddled together, rationing their food, their fuel. They're trying to keep morale up, but it's hard. They're checking weather reports knowing full well that a storm will cut them off from any hope of rescue. For weeks. The others, the engineers, the scientists, the mechanic, working around the clock just to keep everything running. Remember, they have had now no replenishment of supplies. The equipment is old. The conditions are brutal. They're running out of time and they've already faced, I mean they were surrounded by the ice and they thought they were going to get crushed. They've been Cut off from communication for days and weeks because the satellite fails in the storms. The psychological toll, especially when you're going into never ending darkness, I don't know. So why am I telling you this story? Because I don't think. I think this is another example of things that will move us as we watch these people. This is. This is not about nine people in a far off place. This is about the human spirit. It's about what we're capable of when all of the odds are stacked against us. These nine South Africans, they're a microcosm of humanity. They are just all fighting to survive, to contribute, to make a difference. If they fail, we lose more than just data on global warming. We lose a story of resilience. We lose a story that could inspire us and our kids for generations. You know, help. 2,500 miles away across the Southern Ocean, one of the most treacherous bodies of water on Earth. All around them. There is no airstrip. You can't land a plane there. These nine are on their own. And every day that they hold out and they have their morale up is a testament to the human spirit, to their grit, their faith, their determination. I wanted you to know this story today because I don't know who you are, what you're going through, but strangely, I always feel like we're friends somehow. And I don't know what you're going through, but I know there are people right now facing problems and they think there is no way out. But if you just hold on and you do the next right thing, you will prove to yourself that you have the same spirit the explorers have inside of them. It lives in all of us. It's already there. But it only shows itself when you or I activate it, when we refuse to give up. That's the human spirit that just never ends. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. All right, let me talk to you about the burner launcher. Unless you've done some pretty, you know, have some pretty serious issues. Issues you don't. You don't own guns because you're hoping to use one on somebody someday. No, you do it because you hope to never use them, but they're there in case. Well, that covers a wide range of emergency situations where violence is called for, but it doesn't cover all those situations because sometimes, let's say you're in a car driving through the city, and now your car is surrounded by Hamas protesters pounding on the glass. What are you gonna do? You gotta shoot them? No. You gonna drive over them? No, but with my burner launcher, I could roll down my window just a little bit, stick that out and then pull the trigger. And within 60ft I can, I can put people down on the ground with just a little tear gas. I'm just defending myself. I'm just moving on. I didn't want to hurt anybody. Of course not. I'm sorry. But my wife has a burner launcher. I have one in our car. She carries one. And I'm sorry. We're going to use it. If I feel threatened, we're going to put you down on the ground. Burna by r n a.com Glenn you don't need a license for it. It's legal in all 50 states. It's byrna.com Glenn Get 10% off your purchase by r n a.com Glenn General Keith Kellogg, the current US special envoy to Ukraine appointed President Trump Trump. He is retired lieutenant general with a distinguished military career. He has served as the National Security Adviser for former Vice President Mike Pence, Chief of Staff and Executive Secretary for the National Security Council during Trump's first term. Extensive experience in national security and Ukraine Russia policy make him now the key diplomat during this pivotal time for Ukraine. General Kellogg, welcome. Thanks for joining me.

General Keith Kellogg (20:33)

Hey Glenn, thanks for having me on. It's good to be with you.

Glenn Beck (20:36)

Thank you. I want to talk to you because I know we're in the middle of negotiations and there's some things that you just can't say, but let's talk about the things that you're comfortable in sharing. We're in the middle of this ceasefire now. Ukraine agreed to a 30 day ceasefire. Can you talk a little bit about how we got there? I mean, Biden, it didn't even seem like they were attempting to do that. And we just kept doubling down on things that were making it worse. What's the difference in Trump's approach and what Biden was doing and what was that leading us into and what is this hopefully leading us to? What's the difference?

General Keith Kellogg (21:18)

Oh, you know, Glenn, what a great question. Look, this goes back to when President Biden in a press conference said a minimal incursion of Ukraine by the Russians may be okay. Well, he didn't understand that a minimal incursion by Putin is significantly different in his interpretation and my interpretation and Putin's interpretation. Jedi invasion. And then what happened is that Biden didn't even pick up the phone, didn't even talk to Putin in over three years. Kind of just said, I'm not going to, I'm not going to talk to the guy. And then he made the comment, as long as it takes, whatever it takes, we're going to support Ukraine. Well, Glenn, that's not a strategy, it's a bumper sticker. So you basically had a proxy war going on and the President of our United States refusing to even address one of the protagonists in the war. The protagonist in the war. The difference between President Trump and President Biden is night and day. President Trump believes quite deeply and he's absolutely right in this. The war wouldn't have started if he was president believes. He believes in personal discussions, personal negotiations. And that's the reason I knew that this was going to succeed when he wanted to end this war, because he was going to pick up the phone and call Putin, which he did. He was going to call Zelensky, which he did. He was going to call everybody from Xi to Kim Jong Un, whoever it is. He's always had ability to do it because he believes if you don't talk to your adversaries or your allies or your friends, then you've got a major issue happening because nobody really understands where you're coming from. So President Trump said he's going to end this war. He has now established himself as basically the interlocutor between both Russia and Ukraine. And it's been day 58 and we're already talking to him. We're already at a partial cease fire. We want to get to a comprehensive cease fire. That's always been the plan. And then after a comprehensive cease fire, you go to a full speed peace discussion or peace treaty, whatever you want to call it. And I think I was on a television network, I was on Fox network and made the comment that I think you can have within the first hundred days, I still believe that. So you have a chance to have this. The longest war in Europe since World War II, with hundreds of thousands of casualties on both sides and in a relatively near term. And it's all because of one person. It's because the guy who knows how to make deals, the guy who wrote the art of the deal, Donald J. Trump. And he's going to bring it that way. And he put a great team together. He's got Steve Witkoff, an incredibly talented individual, running the Russia lane and I'm running the Ukraine lane. And he's got a great team behind him with, with Secretary Rubio or Pete Hegsetz or Mike Walsh, you know, you name it. It's just a great team and we're all pushing hard. We're on Trump time, Glenn. And you know, and I both know Trump time is much different than anybody else's time.

Glenn Beck (24:08)

Oh, yeah, I know. Um, let me ask you, because I had family members call me about this. I, I, I have so many people that I know that don't necessarily agree with me. When that argument with Zelensky and Trump happened in the Oval, everybody said, my gosh, he's gonna get us into World War Three. And I said, he's negotiating. Read the art of the deal. First of all, that's kind of the stuff that Zelensky does. He tries to try it in the, in the court of public opinion, and Trump's just not intimidated by that. But he had to be tough on them. Not as a way to say, I'm gonna give favors to Russia, but he had to get them to the table and then go to Russia. And now he's tough on Russia. And you don't hear anybody saying, oh, well, he's being so kind to Ukraine. He's a master negotiator. Tell me about that moment in the Oval, if you can.

General Keith Kellogg (25:07)

Yeah, let me give you a little bit of background on that, because what happened is that morning we met with President Zelensky at the Hay Adams Hotel, right across from the White House, and we said to him, look, we kind of stage managed, this is what you want to do. You want to come in and talk to the president. You want to, he'll bring the press in. You want to base, you know, thank you, the American people, for giving $176 million of taxpayer money to support you. And then when you're going to have a lunch and then you have a press conference and you exit stage left, and it's all good. Well, he came in, he didn't listen to what we told him to do, and he came in and he started to lecture the president. And we told him, before, you are dealing with a different person. This gentleman is not Joe Biden, okay? And the president let him go. And it was like. And I was standing right behind the vice president, right behind Secretary Rubio, and I was one of those, you know, wanted to reach over and said, you clearly didn't listen to what we said. President let him go. And then when he said, you need to kind of pick a side, I knew that was the end, the end state. And basically it turned. He just blanks. He blew up everything. And the president wasn't going to budge. And I think that that is the first time that President Zelensky found out that he was going to try to play to the American People through the American press who were in the Oval Office. And he was dealing with a guy who knew the press better than he did. And as the President said publicly afterwards, heck, that was even better than one of the Apprentice shows. And it really was.

Glenn Beck (26:29)

It was.

General Keith Kellogg (26:30)

And we said to him, we hold the ace, you know, and the President said, we hold all the cars. We said, fine, we're not going to give you any more aid. Cut it off. Okay? That just. That was basically hitting them upside the head with a two by four saying, do you realize what you've just done? And they went to the Roosevelt Room and then they wanted to come back in. The President said, nope, thank you very much, but you're done. And we escorted them out of the White House. That's never been done. But that kind of got their attention. And so what happened is in an intervening couple of weeks, everybody kind of, not everybody, but the Ukrainians kind of understood what had happened. And it generated a call, obviously, between President Putin two days ago and then President Zelensky yesterday. And the call could not have gone better. It was a great call and there was a lot of great discussion. It went for well over an hour.

Glenn Beck (27:20)

Wait, wait, is that the Zelensky call?

General Keith Kellogg (27:22)

Yeah, the Zelensky call. See, there is an hour when it's almost comparative in time because Putin's call went almost two hours. Remember, Putin uses a translator, so that.

Glenn Beck (27:33)

Double the time.

General Keith Kellogg (27:33)

Double the time.

Glenn Beck (27:34)

Yeah.

General Keith Kellogg (27:35)

And then Zelensky spoke in English, and so it was basically a comparative call and spent some time and effort, and it was just a good call. And he had the team around him. He, the President Zelensky was in Finland. He was with President Alex Stubbing, who was a great friend of ours, by the way. He actually went to school in Furman and actually plays golf with the President. So he was there supporting. And I think we're all in good shape. And this week we are putting what we call technical teams in what are called proximity talks in Saudi Arabia, where both sides come in, they're kept in separate rooms, and you basically say, okay, what is your terms? And you turn to the other side. What are your terms? You kind of do. It's basically shuttle diplomacy between rooms in Riyadh, and that's where they're at. And then we see where we can get to. To a comprehensive cease fire. And that'll be the first step towards the end of this war. And I think that's pretty fast.

Glenn Beck (28:29)

The President said to me at one point, and I'm sure he has said this publicly, as well, that, you know, he wasn't really prepared to be. He thought he was, but it was such a different job the first time around. And you know, you know where everybody on the View was hugging him just months before saying, you're the greatest guy and you're our good friend. And then all of a sudden all the knives come out. He had to be stunned in that. And then after 2020, he took the time to really analyze and prepare and put the right people around him. And the one thing that has stunned me, stunned me is I think he's one of the most well read presidents we have had. And I don't mean book smart stuff. I mean, you could ask him any question and he knows it down to the very smallest detail. I found it. Am I misreading him or have you found that to be true? No matter what you ask him about, he knows it to the granular level.

General Keith Kellogg (29:38)

Yeah. You know, Glenn, I'll give you kind of one of the inside stories on the fact that when you fly with him, you know, when you fly with him, he always has a stack of newspapers from the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, Financial Times, and he reads through them and he's very, very knowledgeable. We were sitting in the Oval during first terms and he was talking about, during the first term and he was talking about the, you know, aircraft carriers and the new aircraft carriers coming out, the new Ford class and what the problems were with the Ford class. And he said, yeah, where did he get this from? I know they got it out of Forbes magazine. And you're absolutely right. A couple things is when the first administration, you're absolutely right because nobody, there's no book out there. Presidents for Dummies, you learn on the job, it starts. And I mean, he learned so fast in that job, but nobody is really prepared for a presidency. Remember President Trump before he came to Washington as a president of the United States? I don't think he spent a night in Washington D.C. ever. So he came here and kind of came into it, met Obama and frankly, I don't think he was well served by some of the people he brought in early on.

Glenn Beck (30:46)

That's an understatement.

General Keith Kellogg (30:48)

And so he basically, look, we were under battle, we were under siege before the inauguration. I mean, I was with him on day one and we, he was nearly, you know, they wanted to impeach him before he even became president. So we had to fight those battles. Okay, fast forward to now. Oh, yeah, he, when he went down to Mar a Lago and he Said he's going to run again. He prepared and he put a team around him, a really smart team, and he thought their way through it. You know, on day one of the first administration, he signed one executive order. I think on the first day of this administration, he signed over. I think it was 47 on day one. He signs them every day. So we were rocking and rolling, ready to go. To say he is prepared is a classic understatement. And the difference between nine and day, but that is the beauty. And you know something? This is one of those. You almost want to sit back and think about it. In a way, I'm glad there was a four year break.

Glenn Beck (31:43)

Yeah.

General Keith Kellogg (31:43)

Because it allowed him to really reflect on the first administration, what a second administration would look like. The good, the bad, the right people to have around him. And that's the reason why you're seeing them. Do you talk about a man of action? I mean, I said we're at day 59 and heck, it feels like 59 years.

Glenn Beck (32:00)

Oh, I know, it's amazing. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. So the President is going to abolish parts of the doe, but the Department of Education was, was first put in by Jimmy Carter. And then a few years later it was, it was, you know, set in stone by Congress. So he can't shut it down because Congress established it. Okay. So only Congress can abolish it. However, he can trim the fat and he's going to cut it by about 50% today, which is a great thing. But as Michaela was doing her homework on this, she said, one of your producers. Yeah, one of our producers, she said, have you read the Department of Education Organization act, like, oh, obviously, of course I have. But tell me what you found. Listen to this. It is the intention. This is the founding document passed by Congress. It is the intention of Congress in the establishment of the Department of Education to protect the rights of state and local governments and public and private educational institutions. Now, just that. Are they operating within the law that was set by Congress?

Michaela (33:22)

Because I think you could, you could convince me that that's a good idea.

Glenn Beck (33:25)

Yeah, right, right.

Michaela (33:26)

That sounds great.

Glenn Beck (33:27)

Right. So let me read that again. The intention of Congress in the establishment of the Department of Education to protect the rights of state and local governments and public and private educational institutions in the area of educational policies and administration of programs and to strengthen and improve the control of such governments and institutions over their own educational programs and policies. You hear the second half of that. To strengthen and improve the local and state administration And. And the control of their own educational programs and policies. That is not what the DOE is doing. No, not even. Listen to the next line. The establishment of the Department of Education shall not increase the authority of the federal government over education or diminish the responsibility for education which is reserved to the states and the local school systems and other instrumentalities of the states. Oh, wait. This is not what the Department of Education is at all. So when they say, well, he can't abolish the Department of Ed. No, they abolished the Department of Ed. The Department of Ed. Isn't that. You know, because like you just said, I wouldn't have necessarily a problem with that.

Michaela (35:00)

I'd have some questions, but I wouldn't want it as a direction. Protecting local rights over education is exactly kind of what I want.

Glenn Beck (35:08)

Exactly right. B, no provision of a program administered by the Secretary or any other officer of the department shall be construed to authorize the Secretary or any such officer to exercise any direction, supervision, or control over the local curriculum, any program of instruction or administration or personnel of any educational institution, school, or school system, over any accrediting agency or association, or over the selection and content of library resources, textbooks, or other instructional materials by any educational institution or school system except to the extent authorized by this law.

General Keith Kellogg (35:56)

Hmm.

Michaela (35:56)

I mean, it seems there's all sorts of limitations on it.

Glenn Beck (36:00)

Oh, yeah. I mean, if you just go back to this. If he just reset it to this, do you know how many problems would go away?

Michaela (36:08)

I know. This is really common too. We mentioned the same thing with the Patriot Act. Like the guy who wrote the Patriot act, there's a bunch of these things going on. They're like, I can't believe the Patriot act would do this. And he's like, I wrote it. It's not supposed to do that. That's not what it. That's not what it's supposed to do at all.

Glenn Beck (36:24)

It always grows.

Michaela (36:25)

It always grows. It always evades that initial, the limiting principles put on it by the law.

Glenn Beck (36:32)

Itself, which is amazing when you to be true. And our founders knew that. It's amazing how long our Constitution and Bill of Rights has lasted.

Michaela (36:41)

Yeah.

Glenn Beck (36:41)

You know, the average Constitution's age in the history of the world, the average age of death of a constitution is 17 years. We're coming up to 250 of our. Of our Declaration of Independence. 17 years. That's the average. We are so far out for it to have lasted this long, knowing that this is what it always happens. They always morph and distort and erase the original founding ideas. Wow, that's impressive. And we're still standing.

Michaela (37:22)

Yeah. And again, giant chunks of it are still standing. As we've pointed out many times. A lot of it isn't standing in other than it's just on paper. But that's the problem. Right. We should be back to it and should be trying to focus our country on following it again.

Glenn Beck (37:38)

Right.

Michaela (37:38)

A little bit more closely. But I am glad that it still stands.

Glenn Beck (37:41)

Me too.

Michaela (37:42)

It's just San Marino. There's one other. One other weird country that has a very old constitution.

Glenn Beck (37:47)

Is that an old, like, Chevy?

Michaela (37:49)

Yeah.

Glenn Beck (37:51)

Beautiful car. Yeah. Beautiful V8.

Michaela (37:53)

Yeah, it's great.

Glenn Beck (37:53)

Yeah. Here's the other thing that we need to talk about, and that is these judges. I'm going to get into Tesla on this in a second, and that's equally as important. But let me talk again about the justices and the judges on what is happening. Um, the judge has ordered to restore USAID worker access and forbids the shutdown because it's likely against the Constitution. Well, that's not your job. Um, the Obama. The Obama appointed judge trying to stop USAID shutdown donated thousands of dollars to the Democrats. The judge who blocked the key executive order has a long progressive activism history. Uh, I mean, we're. We're having these judges get involved in everything. So what. What are judges supposed to do? What does the Constitution actually say? I want to take you to a. A football field. Glenn, don't do it. You're getting dicey. Don't go into sports analysis. Let's just take you out to a football field for your first second.

Michaela (38:56)

Oh, here we go.

General Keith Kellogg (38:58)

Get.

Michaela (38:58)

Prepare yourself, Ger. Loins.

Glenn Beck (39:02)

Is that like the grid loins? Yeah. There you go. So. So let's say the ref is out on and he decides that that touchdown's worth 10 points. The clock should be kept running because I think so it's most likely that it should be running right now. That is what's happening in our court system. That's judicial or referee activism. All right? They're just making stuff up. Um, judges that are stepping beyond their lane and making up the rules instead of just calling the game as written. That's what judges are supposed to do. They're supposed to look at things as written and then say, no, sorry, guys, that's the law. Not. You know what, you know what we should do? I should also be able to eat any kind of candy that I want. And you're all. You're a defendant. You need to bring me candy. Uh, and cuz. That's what I want right now. Okay? I'm fat. I've been sitting behind the bench for a long time. You can't even notice my fatness. I am the size of the bench. Just my upper torso's not okay. You can't do that. You don't do that. Now, it's important to realize judges aren't necessarily bad guys. They have a really, really tough job. And I don't like. You know, I really feel bad when you're like, well, that's just a bad ruling. Well, maybe, but I wasn't in the courtroom. How many times have we done a story where we really want to bash the judge? But you weren't in the courtroom. You don't know what was said or what they know.

Michaela (40:41)

You talked about that when you did jury duty. Yeah, I remember because I think from an outsider perspective, you could always come to something. But when you're there watching it every single day and, yeah, it's different. Sometimes it's different.

Glenn Beck (40:52)

So when they start acting like lawmakers instead of interpreters of that law, then we have a problem. Like, a judge should step in now on the Department of Education and say, sorry, gang, I read this section last night. That's not what's going on here. So the president. Yeah, I. I recommend I shouldn't, but if it comes into my courtroom, I'm gonna show. Yeah, well, that's the law. Not my opinion. I might love the department, I might be a full fledged communist, but I'm here to uphold the law. And that's what Congress said it is, and that's not what it is. Now. Sometimes there are problems that Congress needs to step in and say, you're out of here. Sometimes the judges. And it has happened in our history, and it's a very high bar. But I'm not sure. I mean, it should be a high bar like it is with impeachment of the president, but it shouldn't be off the table. Okay, And. And here's why. If you go back to the Founding Fathers, they thought this through. It's kind of crazy. It's not like, hey, we're going to do a new constitution in Iceland. Tweet us your ideas. Uh, in Federalist 78, Alexander Hamilton says judges should not have life tenure. Um, and if they do, only if they're on good behavior. Well, what does that mean? Well, he saw judges as the least dangerous branch because it doesn't have. It doesn't control the purse strings and it doesn't have an army. Okay, so he's like, you know, I mean, if they're on good behavior, just let them go. Just let them go. But he also knew that judges weren't perfect. They do go rogue. So he knew that they would twist the Constitution and what they were doing into something that it's not. And that good behavior clause is not just for decoration. It's. It's the lifeline of the people to stop the judges that have gone bad. Then in Federalist 81, Hamilton doubles down on this. Judges can be impeached if they abuse their power. How do they abuse their power? They step out of line of interpreting the law and start writing laws. And he's very clear Congress has the muscle to check them. You know, it's. It's like giving the principal the power to fire a teacher who's, you know, teaching kids the Alphabet, you know, backwards and mixed up. No. You know, I appreciate it. We're not doing that. Okay. We hired you to teach the Alphabet. Um, so has this ever been done? Has this ever been exercised? Yeah. I talked to a federal judge last night about this, and he's like, glenn Luster versus Georgia. And I'm like, oh, man, that was one of my favorite rulings. But I want to ask you to see how much you know about Luster versus Georgia. It's. Back in 1832, Supreme Court told Georgia they have to stop messing with the Cherokee Nation land. And they. I think they also said, you can't go in and teach the Cherokee tribes Christianity. Okay? Georgia said, nah, we're going to do that anyway. Okay. Now, I am not a fan of the way the Native Americans were treated in history, and I'm not a fan of Andrew Jackson, but he wasn't a fan of the court, and he supposedly said, great, the judge has made his decision. Now let him figure out how to enforce it. Now, I don't like that. I don't like that. But that's what Federalist81 was saying. They don't have purse strings. They don't have an army. They have an opinion. But if the other two branches are like, nah, we're gonna do it anyway, again, I don't like that. But that's only. That can only apply to when the judges step out of their lane. When you. When you're an activist judge, go ahead, you call your army. But when they're in their lane and they're saying, no, this is the law. This is how it's written, then you don't say, nah, you go ahead and try to enforce that, because then it's a breakdown. But it's just as much of a breakdown if they legislate from the bench and we do nothing about it. The Court doesn't have any tanks, doesn't have any cops. It relies on the other two branches. It's why that one's the weakest. It has no enforcement. It was never given any enforcement. The founders didn't want it to have any enforcement. Congress has the checkbook. The president has the tanks. The justices have their robes. So they lose. They're the weakest of them now. They're supposed to be able to check each other. So you're out of respect for what each arm is supposed to do. We do listen to the Supreme Court.