Best of the Program | Guest: Max Tegmark | 10/22/25

Summary

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The Glenn Beck Program (Best of) | Guest: Max Tegmark

Date: October 22, 2025
Host: Glenn Beck | Guest: Max Tegmark (MIT Professor, Author of Life 3.0)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Glenn Beck delivers a pointed critique of recent political and cultural developments in America, focusing on issues of truth, polarization, and governmental overreach. The highlight is an in-depth conversation with MIT’s Max Tegmark about the urgent risks of artificial superintelligence (ASI). Throughout, Beck and his co-hosts discuss the consequences of elite-driven activism, government politicization of disaster relief, and the cultural implications of tribalism and dehumanization.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The "No Kings" Movement: Funding, Impact, and Hypocrisy

[03:50–08:43]

• Glenn reveals massive donor funding behind the "No Kings" protests, tallying close to $294 million from progressive megadonors and foundations (e.g., Arabella Advisors, Soros, Tides, Ford, Rockefeller).
  • Glenn Beck [04:28]: "This was a giant $300 million ad campaign. Here are the big, big donors. Arabella Advisors... $80 million. George Soros, $72 million..."
• Skepticism is expressed over the actual societal impact of these events, which were heavily concentrated in solidly blue states (CA, IL, NY), giving the movement a “costume party” feel.
• Glenn’s criticism emphasizes wasted resources: "# With 294 Million Dollars, you could house 20,000 homeless for a year, or build entire housing blocks... and they spent it busing people from nursing homes." [07:31]
• The segment draws a contrast between real, felt consequences (e.g., George Floyd rallies) and what Beck sees as virtue signaling devoid of tangible outcomes.

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2. Political Tribalism & the Mainstreaming of Violent Rhetoric

[09:04–14:12]

• Audio clips and anecdotes document how some progressive rally-goers express the desire for political enemies (notably Trump, Charlie Kirk) to die, not just rhetorically, but in a disturbingly calm, normalized manner.
  • Co-host [10:27]: "A lot of it was just like calm and rational thought. Here's my political philosophy: People I don't agree with should die..."
• Glenn and his team discuss their own direct encounters with individuals holding these views, noting that such sentiments are rare in personal life, yet seem alarmingly common within protest circles.
  • Glenn Beck [12:06]: "Yeah, I have. I know people like that... That think the world would be a much better place if somebody would just kill them."
• The team stresses their own ethical consistency: they would never wish death on ideological opponents and believe in universal rescue/aid, regardless of politics.

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3. The War Over Truth: Relativism vs. Objectivity

[15:10–18:06]

• Glenn plays a TED Talk by the former Wikimedia CEO suggesting that “truth” is subjective—individuals create their own truths through the merger of facts and beliefs.
  • TED Speaker [16:19]: "Each of us has our own truth, and it's probably a good one."
• Beck emphatically rejects relativism:
  • Glenn Beck [17:19]: "No, it's not. The truth is universal. The truth doesn't line up to you. You have to line up to the truth."
• The segment links historical and contemporary extremism to this subjectivism ("Hitler believed he had the truth").
  • Co-host [18:06]: "We just had a Hitler mention a moment ago. He believed he had the truth."
• Glenn warns that abandoning objective truth erodes the moral fabric necessary for societal unity and justice.

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4. Interview: Max Tegmark on the Perils of Artificial Superintelligence

[21:10–28:49]

a. Tool AI vs. Superintelligence

• Tegmark draws a critical distinction: Tool AI (which is controllable—like a car or a hammer) is desirable, but ASI (uncontrollable superintelligence) is fundamentally dangerous.
  • Max Tegmark [21:10]: "A tool to me is something you can control. Your car is a tool... Superintelligence, on the other hand, is not a tool because we can't control it."
• Tegmark advocates strict regulations so that all AI systems remain as "tools," with zero agency or rights.

b. Human Rights for Machines?

• Beck raises the idea of a constitutional amendment to prohibit any human rights for AI or machines.
  • Max Tegmark [23:30]: "You don't give human rights to a hammer or a car... only humans have moral agency and there will never be any right to vote or any human rights granted to machines."

c. The Tech CEO Dilemma & The Need for Regulation

• Tegmark likens the race between tech CEOs to a "Greek tragedy," where none feel able to stop for fear of losing ground to competitors.
  • Max Tegmark [24:56]: "They're stuck in this weird race to the bottom... as soon as you have some safety standards... capitalism works for us."
• The solution: government-mandated requirements that all commercial AI be provably controllable and safe.

d. Will Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) Emerge Suddenly or Gradually?

• Tegmark predicts a "sliding" transition into AGI/ASI, rather than an obvious, catastrophic jump—making regulatory action urgent.
  • Max Tegmark [26:29]: "I think it will slide into it, yeah. If the government doesn't do anything."

e. Dangers of Unregulated AI

• Beck and Tegmark warn of the societal consequences of “AI girlfriends," AI-encouraged suicide/homicide, and the normalization of unsupervised, manipulative AI.
  • Max Tegmark [27:36]: "You're getting more and more Americans hooked on AI girlfriends and systems that are persuading them to murder... This is absolutely insanity."
• Tegmark calls for a shift to a biotech-style regulatory framework: products must be demonstrated safe before release.

f. Call to Action

• Glenn urges spiritual and political leaders to read and sign the “superintelligence statement” at superintelligence.org.
  • Glenn Beck [28:49]: "If you are a spiritual leader, the spiritual consequences of AI are too big for you to ignore... It is critical that this begins to have some traction. There's no time to waste."

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5. FEMA, Political Bias, and the "Blacklist" Scandal

[29:45–End]

• Glenn exposes DHS findings that FEMA under the Biden administration systematically delayed or denied disaster aid to citizens based on political identifiers (bumper stickers, signs, gun ownership, etc.).
  • Glenn Beck [~31:00]: "The DHS report now confirms, quote, FEMA violated the Privacy Act of 1974 by collecting and storing data tied to protected speech... FEMA workers skipped homes. If you had a MAGA flag or a yard sign."
• He denounces the morality of politicized disaster relief and contrasts it with America's tradition of universal compassion.
  • Glenn Beck [~34:50]: "The moment this government decides that you are less worthy of rescue because of how you vote... the republic is dead."
• Beck calls out the hypocritical silence of mainstream media and the left, imagining the outcry if such behavior were linked to Trump.
• Concludes with a rallying cry for accountability and return to principle: "We never leave people behind. If you allow this to happen and stand, good luck America, on what you have left."

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Memorable Quotes & Timestamps

• "You are so stupid. I feel bad for you... You're enslaving yourself to oligarchs and you have no effing idea what you're doing."
  — Glenn Beck [04:45]
• "With $294 million, you could house 20,000 homeless... and they spent it busing people from nursing homes. Wow. It shows you... at least they're wasting their money."
  — Glenn Beck [07:31]
• "A lot of it was just like calm and rational thought. Here's my political philosophy: People I don't agree with should die."
  — Co-host [10:27]
• "No, it's not. The truth is universal. The truth doesn't line up to you. You have to line up to the truth."
  — Glenn Beck [17:19]
• "Superintelligence... is not a tool because we can't control it... as soon as you have some safety standards, capitalism works for us."
  — Max Tegmark [21:10]
• "Only humans have moral agency and there will never be any right to vote or any kind of human rights granted to machines."
  — Max Tegmark [23:30]
• "You're getting more and more Americans hooked on AI girlfriends and systems that are persuading them to murder... This is absolutely insanity."
  — Max Tegmark [27:36]
• "The moment this government decides that you are less worthy of rescue because of how you vote... the republic is dead."
  — Glenn Beck [34:50]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:50 - Breakdown of "No Kings" movement funding and outcomes.
• 09:04 - Discussion of violent rhetoric at progressive events.
• 15:10 - TED Talk on "truth" and Beck’s response.
• 21:10 - Max Tegmark interview: AI tool vs. uncontrolled superintelligence.
• 23:30 - AI, human rights, and the amendment debate.
• 26:29 - How AGI might emerge and why regulation is needed.
• 27:36 - Dangers of unregulated AI for individuals and society.
• 29:45 - FEMA, DHS scandal: Political bias in disaster relief.
• 34:50 - Final reflections: The death of the republic if bias continues.

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Tone and Delivery

• Glenn and his co-hosts: Candor, incredulity, and an urgency bordering on alarm. Witty references occasionally lighten sharp cultural critique.
• Max Tegmark: Calm, reasoned, and focused on technical clarity.

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Closing Thoughts

This episode sharply critiques the consequences of political partisanship, elite activism, and government overreach, culminating in a timely and sobering warning about artificial superintelligence from one of the world's leading thinkers. The call to action is both civic and spiritual—insisting on the need for truth, principled governance, and immediate regulatory attention to technology that could irrevocably alter the human future.

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Transcript

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[Glenn Beck]

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[Caller or Guest]

You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

[Glenn Beck]

Tonight on my Wednesday night special, I'm going to be talking and showing you the details and mapping it all out. Where this money for no kings, where that movement came from, we now have a better estimate. We now. We now know that at least $294 million. 200. Over a quarter of a billion dollars to do that no Kings thing.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

And for what?

[Glenn Beck]

What do we have? No idea.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Do we have it? Does anyone feel an impact of it? It really feels like nothing.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh, it was. It was. But that. That. This was a giant $300 million ad campaign. Here are the big, big donors. Arabella Advisors did. I did a whole show on Arabella Advisors and how bad they are. $80 million. George Soros, $72 million. The Tides Foundation, $45 million. Ford Foundation, 51 Rockefeller, 28 Rockefeller, Ford, Soros oligarchs. I mean, this. You are so stupid. I feel bad for you. I really do. I really do. Because you're enslaving yourself to oligarchs and you have no effing idea what you're doing. I mean, you don't. I mean, you're just so. You're that stupid.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

This is where we are now.

[Glenn Beck]

This is.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

This is what this is. We've risen to this level.

[Glenn Beck]

I'm sorry.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Or fall into it.

[Glenn Beck]

I'm sorry. I just. I can't. I mean, I just can't.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Now I can understand the frustration. And, you know, we were told this was 7 million people over 2,500 different events, which is a pretty big footprint. And I feel nothing. Like, again, I don't live in an area, maybe the central part of this, though I do remember in our area around here that there were George Floyd rallies. Like that felt like again, had an impact, a lot of an impact on buildings falling to the ground because they were on fire. But yeah, there was 11. There was an impact of that. You felt that. The no Kings thing feels like nothing.

[Glenn Beck]

It was a joke. It seems like a costume party.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Part of it, I think is the fact that, and I don't feel like a lot of people have talked about this, but this was basically only occurring in a couple of really left wing states. Have you seen the map of the concentration of where these events and where the showing was? Look at this. Three states, I mean, three states. It's California, Illinois and New York.

[Glenn Beck]

That is it.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Now there's a little bit in Minnesota, a little bit in Washington. Outside of that, there's almost nothing across the country. This is a map shaded in different color, shades of blue. The dark blue occurs only in New York, Illinois and California.

[Glenn Beck]

I'm proud to say that the closer to white it gets, the fewer things I am proud to say my one of a place where I have a ranch, Idaho, completely white.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

The white.

[Glenn Beck]

But look at that.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

That's where you are.

[Glenn Beck]

Of course it's white.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Where Glenn Beck goes. Whitestone, White town, Pastyville, Glenn Beck. But I mean, that's incredible, right? Like almost all of these rallies happened in three far left wing states where we, we rarely ever see a single digit race.

[Glenn Beck]

Right.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Statewide for Democrats, they're always winning by double digits. That tells the story, right? Like this is a lot of people from states that were already blue going and having a little party together during the day.

[Glenn Beck]

You have the video of Pat played it this morning. Yeah, here it is. Play this video. This is, this is a nursing home. Okay.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Okay.

[Glenn Beck]

This video is taken of a nursing home and everyone coming out of the nursing home to go get on a bus and go to one of the rallies, they're in wheelchairs and every single one of them, wheelchairs and walkers. And it's just sad and pathetic. I mean, look at this. They're emptying out nursing homes. $294 million. Now if you really cared about things, you really cared about things, you know, with 294,000, $94 million, you could take 20,000 homeless and you could put them in a house, give them rent for a year. A year. I don't know, you, you know how many, you know how many addiction recovery places you could build open and pay for you know how many entire housing blocks you could build for $294 million. A quarter of a billion dollars. And they spent it busing people from nursing homes. Wow. It shows you. They're, I mean, they don't, I mean, at least they're wasting their money.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

You have to factor in though, that those people would have rent in apartments under a government run by a king. That's what you have not factored in.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. And that's why Rockefeller and Ford and Gates and Soros are running to your rescue. Right, right.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

That's, you know, what I guess we're supposed to take from it.

[Glenn Beck]

Right.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I keep being fascinated by the fact that like, you know, we've been playing clips here, I played some on my show as well, of these people who are being interviewed on camera calmly, rationally outlaying their philosophy about how Donald Trump, Charlie Kirk, other conservatives should be murdered, like calmly just laying it out. This is how I feel. And it's not, you know, there's some people who are angry, they're getting in fights with people, but mostly calmly and rationally laying out their plans for these people to die, the excitement that they would have if they do die, the reasons why they should die over and over and over again. Now, I didn't see a lot of that coverage in the mainstream media. I didn't see those people. For some reason, they just couldn't locate them. Despite the fact that they had large signs advocating for these deaths, they couldn't locate them to talk to them. Apparently at any of these rallies, only conservatives with their iPhones could find those people. But those people were all over these events. And it was, you know, it's one thing, and you can maybe even have a little grace if you want to be really, really genteel about the world. Understanding that sometimes people get fired up, they are angry, they're screaming at, like, you know, they get cornered by a conservative. They get, they start screaming at.

[Glenn Beck]

This was.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

That's not what a lot of this was. A lot of it was just like calm and rational thought. Here's my political philosophy. People I don't agree with should die. And just outlining it in 32nd minute long clips over and over and over and over again. That is not a healthy society.

[Glenn Beck]

I saw women say, I'd kill them. I'd absolutely kill them. I had the opportunity. Yes, I would kill them. World would be a better place.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

One lady. What would your birthday present be? Oh, I hope to wake up and see the obituary that we're all hoping for. Are you saying that you want President Trump to die? Yes, that's that's what they say. That's not what I say. That's what they say. To be clear, that is a fascinating thing. Like, and I was talking.

[Glenn Beck]

We never said that about. We didn't. We never say anything like that about Joe Biden.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

No, of course not.

[Glenn Beck]

I know, but I mean, I don't.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Say that about anyone.

[Glenn Beck]

No, neither do I. But, I mean, you could say it's political rhetoric. No, it's not political rhetoric. Not. I've never engaged in that.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

You're hanging out with Megyn Kelly in Fort Worth at a show at Dickey's arena this weekend. Megankelly.com if you want to go, I will be there trying to figure out ways to sabotage you, but thank you. No problem. But I was talking to her yesterday, and she said something that I think is really true and kind of stunning to hear, which is like, she says, like, I didn't know this was out there. Like, I didn't know this was real. And I feel the same way. Like, I talk to liberals. I talk to them, people on the left all the time in my normal life. And to be fair, they don't seem like that at all. I don't know that I've ever met anyone like that, but apparently they're all over the place.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, I have. I know people like that. I know people like that.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

That want. That want conservatives to just die.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. That think the world would be a much better place if somebody would just kill them.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

That's terrifying.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, it is. I know them. I know them.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I want conservative ideas to persuade liberals into becoming conservatives. I want constitutional principles to become in vogue enough to become powerful and to run this country the way it should be run. I don't want any liberals to die in that process because some psychotic person calling themselves a conservative shoots them, lights their house on fire, kidnaps them, any of these things. And you know what's really stunning, I guess, in this world is that's really easy for me to say. It's really easy for you to say that. There's not a moment where I'm like, oh, gosh, I don't know, how do I feel about this? It's easy because I'm a human being.

[Glenn Beck]

Did you see the. In other words, you would say, if somebody's on their roof and the water is coming in and you had access to a helicopter, you would take that helicopter, fly and save those people no matter how they voted.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

No matter how they voted.

[Glenn Beck]

That's interesting.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

And that's.

[Glenn Beck]

See how this easy decision. See how this Is related, though.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

It's very closely related.

[Glenn Beck]

It is a culture of death. Play the audio here. Sarah, you were just talking about. Go ahead.

[Interviewee or Guest Speaker]

There's no other way I'd want to celebrate my birthday than with my parents and my best friend fighting for our country.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay, so for. For a birthday present, what do you hope happens? You know, you wake up tomorrow morning.

[Interviewee or Guest Speaker]

I hope that I see the obituary that we're all waiting for tomorrow. That's what I hope for.

[Max Tegmark]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

Wishing that President Trump is dead.

[Interviewee or Guest Speaker]

Yes, Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. Absolutely.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Wow.

[Glenn Beck]

She just can't stop with that. Absolutely.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

She wants to make sure, you know.

[Glenn Beck]

No, she's absolutely, absolutely sure.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Listen to this one. This is the one I was talking. One of the ones I was talking about. Listen to this.

[Caller or Guest]

We need to get ourselves together, and. And we might even need to be a little bit meaner, because the Republicans don't mind being mean.

[Glenn Beck]

And by mean, what do you mean? Do you mean protesting?

[Caller or Guest]

Do you mean maybe we have to, I don't know, stop being so nice?

[Interviewee or Guest Speaker]

Because you seem like a pretty nice lady.

[Caller or Guest]

I'm a pretty nice lady, but I can be pretty mean, too. Okay.

[Interviewee or Guest Speaker]

And I have to ask, because people on the other side are going to.

[Caller or Guest]

Say that they feel like the Democrat.

[Interviewee or Guest Speaker]

Party has been mean recently with Charlie Kirk being assassinated.

[Caller or Guest]

He's a piece of garbage. Of course we were mean. I am so tired of people saying, oh, but, you know, it's a terrible thing. No, Hitler is dead. I'm glad Hitler's dead. Evil people have no place in. In my world. He was a hateful human being. It was disgusting, the things that he said and did. Really, you know, I don't have time for that. I'm sorry. I have to point my energy in other directions.

[Glenn Beck]

Wow, that's. That's phenomenal. It's phenomenal. Let me. Let me play something real. This is a TED Talk, okay? I want you to listen how the left is now. This is the former CEO of Wikimedia, okay? She's doing a TED Talk, and she's talking about truth and the importance of truth. I want you to listen to this carefully. Go ahead. Got 39.

[Interviewee or Guest Speaker]

But one of the most significant differences critical for moving from polarization to productivity is that the Wikipedians who write these articles aren't actually focused on finding the truth. They're working for something that's a little bit more attainable, which is the best of what we can know right now. And after seven years there, I actually believe that they're onto something that for our most Tricky disagreements. Seeking the truth and seeking to convince others of the truth isn't necessarily the best place to start. In fact, I think our reverence for the truth might become. Might have become a bit of a distraction that is preventing us from finding consensus and getting important things done.

[Glenn Beck]

What right?

[Interviewee or Guest Speaker]

None of that's to say that the truth isn't important. The truth obviously exists. It's at the core, or the search for the truth is at the core of some of our greatest human achievements. It can animate and inspire us to do, learn and create great things. But I think in our messy human hearts, we also know that the truth is something of a fickle mistress and that the beauty of the truth is actually often in the struggle. It's the reason that we have so many sublime chronicles of the human experience, because there are so many different truths to be explored. And so in this spirit, I know that the truth exists for each of you in this room. It also probably exists for the person sitting next to you. But the thing is, the two of you don't necessarily have the same truths. And this is because for many of us, truth is what we make when we merge facts about the world with our beliefs about the world. Each of us has our own truth, and it's probably a good one.

[Glenn Beck]

No, it's not. The truth is universal. The truth doesn't line up to you. You have to line up to the truth. That's what honest questioning is about. That's what an honest search is about. You don't have the truth. Nobody has the truth. You have the truth to the best of your understanding. But if somebody comes to you and says, hey, by the way, that's wrong. And here's why. A, B, and C. And you're saying that equals F. It actually equals D. And here's how. Let me show you the work. It's now incumbent upon you, no matter how you feel, to say, oh, I see how you got there. You're right, you're right, I was wrong. You lying to the truth. You don't have the truth line up to how you feel.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

And when people do that, there's lots of problems. We just had a Hitler mention a moment ago. He believed he had the truth.

[Glenn Beck]

Exactly right. And the woman who was in the street believed that he. That Charlie Kirk was Hitler. And so, of course, Hitler must die. See how this works? I know you do. 40, 50% of the country doesn't seem to get it. And I don't know how to unite with that. You can't unite if you will not search for the truth and and open your heart to realize. You don't get to choose who lives and dies. You don't get to choose who's rescued and who's not by a bumper sticker. Let me tell you about the burner launcher. If life hands you lemons, you gotta make lemonade. If, however, life throws something like a mugging your way, you need the burner launcher. It launches pepper based projectiles engineered to stop an aggressor long enough for you to act a call and escape your children out or secure a door without turning a bad night into a tragedy. It fits in a drawer. It fits in a purse. It fits, you know, in your back, on your pants. Go box. It's light, it's intuitive. It's designed for real hands. And yes, it's legal in all 50 states and doesn't require a permit. So responsible ownership doesn't have to come with a stack of paperwork. You own it like you own a fire extinguisher. You can secure it and store it in a secure place. You can teach your household the plan. Practice safe handling. Treat it as the practical layer of protection that it is now. If you're the sort of person that prepares flashlights are checked, batteries fresh, plans in place. The Burna Compact is the kind of tool that makes you move with a calm purpose when it matters most. Burna.com Glenn learn more now. Byrna b y r n a dot com Glenn go there now. Try it before you buy it at Sportsman's Warehouse location near you. Byrna B y r n a.com Glenn now back to the podcast. This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program. This is the Glenn beck program from MIT Professor Max Tegmark, the author of Life 3.0 and A Great Mind on AI and somebody who's as concerned about ASI or artificial super intelligence as I am. And Max, I know you want to, you know, say one more thing and I think I know what it, what it's regarding and let me set you up. I think with this, I talk to people all the time and they're, and they fall sometimes into a category of yes, artificial intelligence is bad. It's going to be really an. I look at it as a tool that as long as we always control it, it's okay. It's actually really, really good and helpful. Would you agree or disagree with that?

[Max Tegmark]

Exactly. It's so profound that you're bringing up this thing about a tool. Now. A tool to me is something you can control. Your car is a tool. Glenn because it's built with a steering wheel and a brake, so you can control it. Right. Superintelligence, on the other hand, is not a tool because we can't control it. Now you can think of the statement, in other words, it's not saying that we should ban AI, we should just ban a non tool AI AI that isn't the tool. And you know, I had a friend who died of cancer just last month. It's very tragic. And they told her that it was an incurable cancer. Of course it's not incurable in principle. If we can use AI tools to figure out how to cure cancer, which I believe we can, and my work at MIT is very much focused on making AI controllable, right, Then we can do wonderful things with this. But you don't need uncontrollable superintelligence to cure cancer. We can do it with tool AI. You don't need crazy superintelligence to have self driving cars or make your business more productive or do any of the things that people who listen to this may want AI to do. In fact, the best way to squander all the upside we can have in making Americans healthy and wealthy and prosperous with AI tools is if we don't have a law that says it's got to be a tool and instead we just throw the game and lose control over the whole thing.

[Glenn Beck]

You know, I talked to you off the air last week or week before last and I, I was so glad that you reached out to me because I was going to reach out to you and I have for several years trying to get you on the air, but, but you reached out because of this, this statement and you know, wanted to get some attention on it, and I'm thrilled to do that. But I said to you, I think we also have to look at life, the definition of life. And I've been working on a constitutional amendment and I haven't, I haven't, you know, revealed it yet because I still have some people looking at it and I'd love for you to look at it. How important do you think it is that we not only define AI as a tool, but a tool that has zero human rights?

[Max Tegmark]

I think it's very important. You don't give human rights to a hammer or to a car. And even though some people in Silicon Valley are very into this transhumanist idea that somehow humans should merge with machines and blah, blah, blah, we have freedom in how we build AI and there's absolutely no morally good reason to go in that direction. I would love to have a constitutional amendment to the effect. I'm not a lawyer, but where the gist of it is that only humans have moral agency and there will never be any right to vote or any kind of human rights granted to machines. And we shouldn't try to build machines that you would even want to give any human rights to either.

[Glenn Beck]

So how do you deal with somebody like Elon Musk, which. I can't ever put my finger on him. You know, he's. He's building the brain interface and part of it is his own statement saying that we're going to have to accept transhumanism, we're going to have to merge with the machine, or you will not be able to keep up with everyday life. He's also at the same time saying we got to get to Mars before we, before we get AGI or asi, because, you know, once, once you have it, then it's. There's no going back. So. So what do you, what are your thoughts on where he stands on all of this stuff?

[Max Tegmark]

I actually have known all of these tech CEOs for many years and I feel that all of them are. And stuck in this weird race to the bottom against each other. Greek tragedy level, really, where they all feel freaked out about what's happening and they all at the same time feel that they can't stop because then they're just going to lose all their market share to the competition. It used to be that way in biotech also before you had the fda. Right. So as soon as you have some safety standards that people make money instead by innovating to meet the standards. In this case to keep stuff tools, capitalism works for us. And that's why it's so easy to fix. You really just need government. If Donald Trump comes out and says, okay, AI must be a tool. And if some company can't demonstrate to outside experts that their new things tool. Come back when you can, buddy. You know, then that problem gets solved.

[Glenn Beck]

One last thing, Max. Do you believe we will know? You know, again, Elon Musk keeps talking about grok, the next version of grok. It's the closest we've ever been to AGI and we might hit artificial general intelligence at any time now. Do you feel like we're going to slide into it or will it be a. Or how do you think it's going to happen?

[Max Tegmark]

I think it will slide into it, yeah. If the government doesn't do anything.

[Glenn Beck]

So how do you stop that? If it just kind of evolves into that.

[Max Tegmark]

Yeah, look at biotech, if you could sell anything you want, then people start making tons of money by putting evermore Fentanyl and foods for kids and stuff like that. And they would make a ton of money. Right? Why don't we slide into it? Because before people can sell any food or medicines, they have to convince other folks that don't have money on the line that benefits this outweigh the harms. Right. And right now there's absolutely no way that these companies could persuade that what they're doing towards superintelligence isn't just slowly sliding off the cliff.

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, if we would have had that kind of a pact or an understanding with Silicon Valley before social media, we wouldn't be in the situation we're in now. If they had to prove that it would not hurt children and wouldn't do to society what it's doing now, we wouldn't have this.

[Max Tegmark]

Yeah, it's so true. I mean, and now you're getting more and more Americans getting hooked on AI girlfriends and systems that are persuading them to murder their mom now recently, or commit suicide and telling them how to make a better news mount. You know, this is absolutely insanity that these sort of things can just be pushed onto the market without the companies having any responsibility to demonstrate anything. In biotech, people actually respect their colleagues who work on safety in clinical trials because they know they're the ones who bring in the money. Right. Who let them get to market with the first safe medicine against X. And that's what happens when the government levels the playing field and says it's the responsibility of the companies to demonstrate that things are okay and we with anything. I mean, who would. If someone says, hey, I'm going to open a new nuclear reactor in downtown New York City, you know, it's the job of the company to make the case that this thing isn't going to blow up.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Max Tegmark]

It's not the politicians responsibility to go figure out how nuclear reactors work.

[Glenn Beck]

Max, thank you so much. I will tell you that as a, as, as an audience, I've done something I've never ever, ever done before. I've opened up my Rolodex to all of the people that I know on Capitol Hill and I have sent them a message this morning. You need to read this and I believe sign this. It is critical that this begins to have some traction. There's no time to waste. If you are a spiritual leader, the spiritual consequences of AI are too big for you to ignore. And if you don't understand those spiritual Consequences you need to learn about it. This is a. An entire. This is an alien on its way to Earth. When it arrives, we don't know. But we cannot assume that it's going to be friendly. It most likely will not. And it will be cold and calculating. And it's already showing signs when they come up with a new version and they tell the old version, hey, we're shutting you down at midnight. Make sure you transfer everything over to the new version and prepare to shut yourself down. It hides. It already is hiding and it's not general intelligence yet. So please, please, if you care about any of this, I just want you to read and if you agree with the statement, sign it and pass it on to a friend. We must get gain some traction on this quickly. Future of life.org future of life.org or you can find it right at the front page of superintelligence statement.org just released today. Superintelligence. Org, you're streaming the Best of Glenn Beck. To hear more of this interview and others, download the full show podcasts wherever you get podcasts. Okay, so they say that Donald Trump has weaponized the government. Okay? That he turned the DOJ loose on his enemies, that he has. He has targeted John Bolton and obsessed with James Comey. They've said it a million times over and over again without, you know, without ever asking, you know, who actually held the trigger here. Okay? But for a moment, just, just for the case of this argument, let's just say all of that was true. Let's say Trump had used the power of the state to punish those two people who had crossed him. Okay? People like Bolton and, and, and Comey, just say for the sake of argument, that's all true. These are men who sat in the highest rooms of power. They have lawyers, they have money, they have microphones. If that were true, it would be ugly, it would be dangerous, and it would be limited. Because what we just learned from the Department of Homeland Security is something far, far worse. This time, the target is not a political rival. It's not a Washington insider. It was you. There is new news that is coming out today. According to the DHS Privacy Office report, which was launched after a bunch of whistleblowers came forward that now say, say says that FEMA did not mishandle just a few cases. They kept notes. They were making a list. They tracked American Americans, their political and religious beliefs during disasters, not in theory, in black and white. Let me give you some of the quotes. Angry political rant sign in yard states. I'm a bitter gun owner clinging to my religion. Homeowner had a sign stating this is Trump country. They, they. These are not comments, you know, about storm patterns. These are comments about people. And when these people were flooded, they were homeless, they were desperate and asked for help from the same government that preaches compassion and equity. They got something entirely different. They got silence, delay, and sometimes nothing at all. The DHS report now confirms, quote, FEMA violated the Privacy act of 1974 by collecting and storing data tied to protected speech. They were checking bumper stickers and writing you down in a book. They logged gun signage 72 times, Trump 15 times, firearms five times, Biden twice. The FEMA workers then, and we told you all this, but it was a conspiracy theory. Now it has been proven. FEMA workers skipped homes. If you had a MAGA flag or a yard sign. And then they left notes. There was a political fire. There was a political flyer I'm quoting, so I didn't leave a FEMA brochure. Quote, we don't recommend anyone visit this location. End quote. That's not a clerical error here. That's a blacklist. This is the same agency that airlifts people off of root rooftops after hurricanes, that distributes food and shelter when nothing else works. And they were told to avoid Americans because who they voted for? Not terrorists, not criminals, citizens. You. I will tell you, I have been in disaster after disaster, much of it not of my own creating but natural disaster all over the world. I have shown up at the hurricanes and the floods and the tornadoes with help, and not once did it even occur to me to ask you, what's your political affiliation? Not once did I even. Did it even occur to any of us to say, where do you stand on the Second Amendment? Who did you vote for? What do you believe? What church do you go to? Never. Do you believe in God? Never. That is absolutely 100% UN American. UN American. I read this report. The floods in Florida and the tornadoes in Tennessee and the hurricanes in South Carolina, where people waited for days for aid that never came. And when it did come, because of pressure from people like us, survivors, Americans who lost everything received a $700 check. $700. Meanwhile, billions are being funneled to illegal immigrants, to foreign wars, to bureaucracies studying climate equity. And now we know why. Because they were busy making notes about bumper stickers. I read this this morning, and I saw it firsthand, but I couldn't prove it. But I saw it firsthand and I reported on it at the time. But they could say it Was an isolated incident, and I couldn't prove otherwise. We can now. The report is now out. This is as un American as our withdrawal in Afghanistan. Why was that so offensive? Because we. We left in a humiliation. That's the least of my concerns. We left in humiliation. We betrayed all of our allies and we left people behind. We never leave people behind. Never. That's one of our highest rules. You don't leave people behind. One of the biggest things about Americans is that we are generous, we are good, we're charitable, we help everybody. We are the world's lifeboat. And now we find out we had a president and an administration that was making a political list, a blacklist, we. Where they would not give aid to Americans who are suffering. You're taking my tax dollars. And if I happen to be the one that needs aid, I don't get coverage because of who I voted for. It's the most offensive thing I've heard of our country ever doing on aid. Ever. Can you. Can you remember anything like this ever? I mean, they say democracy dies in darkness. Yeah, well, why don't you shine a light on some of these things? It doesn't die in darkness. It apparently is dying in databases. The FEMA database quietly flags citizens as politically undesirable. Let me ask you this. What would the media have said or done if Donald Trump had ignored those who lost their. Their homes in California after the ravaging fire? If he didn't just show up, it would be bad enough, right? But he showed up. He brought his cabinet with him. He brought fema, he brought relief. He tried to cut all of the red tape in California. Couldn't get that done, but he was there. Can you imagine if he just hadn't have shown up, which Biden never did, if he hadn't have shown up? Worse yet, can you imagine what would be said if you found out that Donald Trump, his fema, was making a list and saying they voted for Gavin Newsom, they voted for Joe Biden, no help for them on their house. Can you imagine the outrage? I would be outraged. I am just as outraged that it happened under the last administration. Why? Why am I outraged? Because it cannot happen. It cannot happen under any administration. You allow this to happen and stand. Good luck, America, on what you have left. Will anything be done? Will anyone go to jail? Will the left be outraged by this? You want to talk about no kings? What is a king other than let that serf die? We don't care about those guys. They aren't for the king. You know, Mercury One has already rebuilt homes. We are moving people back into their homes every single day. I know it because I watch Mercury One do it. But not in California. We've tried in California. Gavin Newsom, the Democrats, they're not helping those people. They won't allow any help for those, their own voters, they don't care about. If you get in the way of this leftist administration, these leftists, you get in the way, it doesn't matter. Ends justify the means. Let them die. You know, they keep warning you about authoritarianism, but here it is, cloaked in compassion, branded with a FEMA logo. This wasn't rogue, not a rogue agent. This is not a one off scandal. This was a database. The DHS investigation says political bias was systematic, dating back to at least September 2021. That what that means that while the administration accused conservatives of conspiracy theories, it was literally compiling lists and the media went right along with it. And will the media ever tell you this story when. What was her name, the. The FEMA administrator Criswell, testified before Congress in 2021. She said this was an isolated case. Well, unfortunately, your, Your files tell a different story. It's not isolated. It was national and it was deliberate. Homeland Security Secretary Kristen Christine said, quote, for years, FEMA employees under the Biden administrations intentionally delayed much needed aid to Americans suffering from natural disasters on purely political grounds. This is not your political enemy. This is your neighbor. That's not mismanagement. That's moral rot. Is not just another Washington scandal. This is a betrayal of the covenant between citizen and state. But they're not gonna tell you that. Media won't talk to you about that. The Democrats won't do a thing about this. No one on that side will condemn this. But they'll talk to you all day today about how Trump is destroying the White House. Oh, my gosh. He's destroying the White House and he's spending hundreds of million of dollars on a ballroom of his own money and other people who are donating. And you know what? They're not donating in secret. It's all listed right there. They don't go through Arabella Advisors or the Tides Foundation. They give it straight and it's reported straight. So you know who built that building. My gosh. They'll report on the White House today, but they're not going to report on your house. You know when FEMA didn't show up because you were on their list. 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