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Glenn Beck
IPhone 11 or later required on today's podcast. What do the leaked Epstein emails actually say? Do they actually prove Trump was the bad guy or the whistleblower against him? Also, you've seen Scott Jennings, I'm sure on cnn. He's, you'll know who he is, the guy who makes sense. Yeah, that guy joins me. He's got a new book out about the changes and the, and what has happened, the shock waves that have happened because of Donald Trump in this first year. Also the end of the progressive era and the beginning of the socialist era. How is that working? How can you really understand what's happening in politics today? Well, you can understand it if you know that we have changed eras. And I explain that all in today's podcast. Let me tell you about the burner launcher. Everybody has that one moment where they think, what would I do if something actually happened? You know, actually in a life or death situation, you hear a noise outside or the dog starts barking, suddenly you're standing, you know, in the dark, holding, I don't know, a TV remote. That's a relatable feeling to me. And that's why I kind of like the burner launcher, you know. Burna is a non lethal self defense tool that can stop an attacker without taking a life. It's legal in all 50 states, no permit required. Small enough to keep anywhere at home, in your car, even in your, your bag when you travel. I have to tell you, I wish I would have had this. The scariest thing that ever happened to me was I heard my wife heard something and everybody's asleep in the house. Glenn, did you hear that? No, I didn't hear anything. Go back to sleep. No, I'm telling you, there's somebody in the house. Get your gun. So I got my gun walking out and I get to the front living room and I'm like, I have a gun and I will shoot if there is somebody in the house. Identify yourself or I will shoot. Nothing. Heard the noise was around the corner and I had my gun aimed right around the corner, right at the corner. And I said, I'm coming. I'm turning the corner, and I have a gun. If you don't identify yourself, I fear for my life and my family's life, and I will shoot you. And that's when my son said, dad, it's me. And he was like 12. And I mean, had I not been that clear with him and he knew that I would shoot, he may not have. I could have shot my own son. BERNA It'll stop that from happening. By r n a.com Glenn learn more burna.com Glenn try before you buy at a Sportsman's Warehouse location near you. Burna.com glenn hello, America. You know, we've been fighting every single day. We push back against the lies, the censorship, the nonsense of the mainstream media that they're trying to feed you. We work tirelessly to bring you the unfiltered truth because you deserve it. But to keep this fight going, we need you right now. Would you take a moment and rate and review the Glenn Beck podcast? Give us five stars and lead a comment, because every single review helps us break through Big Tech's algorithm to reach more Americans who need to hear the truth. This isn't a podcast. This is a movement. And you're part of it, a big part of it. So if you believe in what we're doing, you want more people to wake up, help us push this podcast to the top rate, review, share together, we'll make a difference. And thanks for standing with us. Now, let's get to work.
Scott Jennings
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Glenn Beck
So, Stu Reese, restate your question again, so I fully understand it and I can answer it clearly here. Well, I think.
Stu Reese
Taking out the fact of who we would want to win in this sort of eternal battle for a moment, just speaking strategically as to how you would approach it if you were a Democrat. I initially kind of proposed the question as to how you might deal with the Trump administration. Would you maybe look for the gains that you can get while he's in power? That may be common ground. He's talking about getting rid of the filibuster, for example. You know, every day that I was alive, up until a certain gentleman came down, a very nice escalator. Democrats loved tariffs and were arguing for them constantly. And like, if you have an ally on that one issue in the White House, why wouldn't you sit here and try to go as far as you could down that road and help him along on that instead of just making him into an enemy and calling him Hitler? All the time. And that led to us talking about, well, you mentioned that because the strategy has changed. It's no longer a progressive strategy where you're trying to move policy a specific direction. It's about a revolution and changing this into a socialist place where you now want the chaos on the streets. You now want people to be at odds like that. And so we led that to. Did the Democrats, are they moving too fast on this strategy? If they want to eventually admit and take the masks off and say they are socialists, we're all socialists now. We're getting that with Mamdani and AOC and Bernie Sanders and the like. To me, part of the reason they lost in 2024 is they went really far, really fast with things like gender and the, like, things that people kind of just like crinkled their brow and said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I don't want that. So did they move too fast and is this the right strategy for them?
Glenn Beck
Okay, so let me start with that. That, I believe is a strategy of chaos. And so it was accepted because it is just this deconstruction kind of idea that has been preached now from the universities and the intellectuals and the, you know, the Democrats, many of them buy this, you know, this garbage from the universities. But it, it was all started really by socialist revolutionaries. Okay, as. As a product of chaos. Would you agree with me that there are at least two different kinds of Democrats, Democrats that, you know, might vote for Schumer and don't think that they, you know, they don't believe that there's, you know, this great change coming in there. They want the same kind of America, you know, that we want. There's that Democrat and then there's the socialist, the revolutionary Democrat. Yeah.
Stu Reese
Probably not the same America we want, but one that's reminiscent of what we.
Scott Jennings
Remember about our country.
Stu Reese
Right?
Glenn Beck
Yeah. Correct, Correct, correct. Okay. So that has been since early 1900s. That's been the progressive way. Forget Democrats. It's a progress. Progressive Democrats became progressive in the early 20th century. And when they became progressives, they did it because the Democrats did not want a revolution. They believed in socialism. They believed in communism. Remember, this is before communism had been tried and failed over and over and over again. So. But they believed in that and they really thought it was the right thing to do and that science was going to be able to control society and everything else. And so it would have all the answers. And we have to go that. Because this is the scientific way. Okay. And it's also the right way to do it. You Know, spiritually, it's the right way. They were making this case. Those were progressives. Socialists were like, yeah, it is the right way, so let's do it now. Progressives said, no, we'll get to your socialist utopia, but we'll do it one step at a time. You think you can relate to this? Because how many times do we have to be Charlie Brown and our. And our own side is Lucy with the football.
Stu Reese
Okay, that's exactly what I was thinking about as you were laying that out.
Glenn Beck
Correct. And what was the response from our side?
Stu Reese
Our side always said, look, we just need to win that next election. And if we win that next election, we'll move the ball down. Don't worry, I'll hold the ball right here so you can kick it. We just have to win that next election first.
Glenn Beck
And when that was over, what did we do? We hired the world's largest wrecking ball, Donald Trump. Okay, we're like, we're done with that. We don't believe you anymore. We're done with that. Correct. Now imagine that you've been playing this game since the early 20th century and you are a die hard socialist and you've been moving the ball incrementally. But there's been times where during the Great depression, during the 1960s, you could, like, we could take it now. We could take it now. Okay, During Jimmy Carter. We can take it now. But it's always just moving a little bit closer. Then finally, in 2008, it's your shot. You have a guy who you know is a Marxist, okay? He was steeped in all of this stuff. And the Democrats are going to run this guy. And you're like, yeah, they're running him and he's a Marxist. I don't know if they believe in that, but this guy's going to get it done. This guy believes this stuff. They get all excited and what happens? He makes big changes, but it's progressive change. And he becomes a guy that they no longer trust. Wait a minute. You were just part of the system. You got rich. You did all the things that you said you were against when you were a young Marxist. And look at you. Then what do the Democrats do? The next person they run is Hillary Clinton. She's not a. She's not a communist. She doesn't want revolution. She wants authoritarianism, she wants globalism. There's a very big difference between those two. Okay, Then after that one, you get Joe Biden. And what does he do? He engages or allows all the chaos to happen. Okay, so it works to their advantage. The socialists want all of this chaos. They want all of this control, but so do the Democrats, the new kind of Democrat. They want control. They just want global control. They're much more fascistic. And I say that literally fascistic, because Joe Biden talked about it all the time. These public private partnerships. What does socialists want? They want to control schools. Socialist Communists, they want to control schools, but so do the authoritarians. They want to control schools. They want a communist system where all the means of production are owned by the people through the state. But the authoritarians on the left, they want, they will never call it this, but a fascistic system, okay? It's, it's, it's a globalist system where all of these giant corporations work with the government and do what the government says and they'll allow you to be successful as long as you do exactly what the government says to do. The communists, they don't want the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Socialists don't want that. They want a bill of responsibilities. What the government must do, our Bill of Rights, is what the government cannot ever do. That's an impedement to socialism. You got to discredit and get rid of that. The, the Democrats don't want to lose that. They just want to weaken it. They just want to confuse it, but they don't want to get rid of it because they still need the illusion of America. And they're, and they're for some of the stuff because it's been transformed by them over a hundred, you know, a hundred years. They want the Fed. Do you think the socialists want the Fed? No, they don't want the, the socialists don't want the wef. They don't want just a restructured social order. They want a completely restructured social, social order. The Democrats, the authoritarians, they want friends in the media. They want friends at tech. Do you think the socialists want friends in the media? They'll drag those people out in the streets and beat them to death so fast. And they'll do the same with all the people in Tech, okay? That's what will happen. That's the difference. You have revolutionaries and then you have politicians. Now you get, you get Barack Obama in, and then you get Joe Biden in, and, and they see, they see what's happening with Joe Biden. He is building a global government. That's what's happening. He's in bed with the wef. That's a global government. That's even, that's even worse than what we have right now. Well, we can take advantage of the instability when the Democrats blow it. I really believe the socialists have said enough is enough. You know, guys, we just need one more election and then you'll get what you want. Enough is enough. You're never gonna give us this socialist utopia. You're not for those things. And we have danced with you at this party forever. And you know what? You didn't notice how strong we were getting. Now you brought us to the dance, but is it still that way? Now we're in charge of the dance and we're shaking. You get out. That's what's happening. And it's because they're so sick and tired. So there's no. The actual socialists don't have the same strategy as the Democrat. The Democrats do because they don't have the same end goals. And I think that's what makes the socialists so dangerous. That's why we're seeing the uptick in violence, because Democrats, and it's hard to say this because so many Democrats, I think, are really confused because I think they've just been herded into the psyop operation. Psyops have happened to them over and over again. And so they're just convinced that everybody else is Hitler and they don't see what's happening in their own party. They think that the socialist is the Democrat. It's not. And socialists do believe ends justify the means. Socialists do believe kill them. If they get in your way, kill them. That's why you're seeing the uptick of that, is because it's the socialists now that are in control of the party. Almost completely in control. They're not completely in control because you still have the Chuck Schumers hanging around. But the Chuck Schumers of the world, they're afraid. They know they're no longer the lead at the dance. They know they're about to be eaten if they don't just do what they're told to do. Just. You are going to stand against this. You're going to shut down the government, because that works to the advantage of the socialists, not the Democrats to the socialists. The socialists need the economic chaos. They need the poverty. They need all of those things so they can dramatically change. You can only weaken a government so much. You can only weaken an economy so much before it's not in your advantage anymore because you won't be able to fix it. Look how fast Donald Trump fixed in 2016 what Obama had done. There was so much damage done to the economy in 20. By 2020-2024. You look how long it's taking him to fix things. It's not easy anymore. Democrats know that we can't completely destroy everything unless you have the framework and you're going to drop it into a new world order. It's just the time now to fight for them. Are we a globalist new World order that loves all these corporations, or are we a socialist new World Order that does not get into bed with all of these corporations and everything?
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Glenn Beck
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Scott Jennings
Sure, I'm great. It's an honor to be with you. I've been a longtime fan and an admirer of yours, and to be with you today is very special for me. So thanks for the invitation.
Glenn Beck
Oh, my gosh. Well, you are more than welcome, I have to tell you. You know, I just was about to say, I don't know what your life is like, but I know exactly what your Life is like, because I, as I worked there and it was a lonely, lonely place. But you are doing an amazing job. Really an amazing job.
Scott Jennings
Well, thank you for saying that. And I have to say, you know, I credit CNN for creating this 10 o' clock debating show where I most often appear and giving a conservative a chance to fight it out. And I think TV is kind of boring when it's just six people sitting around congratulating themselves on increasing levels of smugness. I think, I think a little debate and a little common sense injected into some of the conversations and a little reframing of some of these debates is exactly what they need. And I think there's a hunger for that kind of content out there. So I'm glad they're doing it. And it's a privilege to have the seat right now.
Glenn Beck
So are the days you walk away. Go. I just can't do it. I mean, there has to be.
Scott Jennings
Well, I occasionally meet people who say crazy things. I was on not too long ago with a guy who was a real life ear truther. He did not believe Donald Trump had been shot in Butler, Pennsylvania. And he said to me live on the air, well, I wasn't there. How am I supposed to know? And I thought, this is who I'm dealing with. And I think I debate people who, if not but for being contractually obligated to do so, wouldn't know or interact with a single other Republican. I'm the only one they know. And so I think, I think if you're interested in popping ideological bubbles like I am and like I know you are, it's a good thing to do. It does make me shake my head. But I do think the. I do think there's value in us. I mean, I believe in our ideas, and I think if our ideas get out to more people, more people will gravitate to our cause.
Glenn Beck
I agree. All right, so let's talk a little bit about the book Revolution of Common Sense. You say that your dad was the first one that said, Donald Trump's gonna win. And this is early on, you laughed it off, says, he's not gonna win. Is that true?
Scott Jennings
I did. That's absolutely true. My father was the biggest Clinton Democrat I knew. I come from a family of Democrats. He was a factory worker and a garbage man. And even though I was a Republican political operative, my dad was a Democrat for a long time. But in 2014, 2015, my dad was telling me, it's going to be Trump. And I, I like everybody else who'd been trained in the old ways was like, you know, come on, dad. And he turned out to be right. But he was sort of the leading indicator for me about what was going to happen in middle America. All these working class Americans who live in hollowed out communities that feel like the political elites had left them behind. That was my dad. And he was speaking to my dad. But as you know, he was speaking to millions of people. And he defeated the Republican establishment, then he defeated the Democratic establishment. And it was because of people like my dad who recognized in him we're trying to hire somebody to smash these guys who've forgotten about us and crushed us. And my dad knew it, my dad knew it. And it's not the only time in my life where my dad was right and I was wrong. I can tell you that.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, the. You spent a lot of time with Donald Trump when you're writing this book. Did you know him beforehand?
Scott Jennings
I did not. I met him really for the first time in February when I pitched him on the book and got to observe him in action in the Oval Office. I flew with him. Yeah, it's funny, he kind of dominated, you know, every conversation I've had in my professional life for the last 10 years. But I didn't really know him. But I did spend some time with him in the White House. I flew to Michigan with him on his hundredth day in office and, and he gave a speech in Michigan that day and he said something true to his inaugural address. He said, whether you're on the left or whether you're on the right, whether you're in the middle, it's just common sense. And I think the rebranding of the party as the Common Sense party has allowed so many more people in. I think it's one of the most genius political marketing moves in American history.
Glenn Beck
It's amazing because he's not, he's not saying, he's not necessarily making a case for being conservative or anything else. It's just he is fighting for the things that we all used to think were like, yeah, well, that makes, that makes sense. I mean, no, that's a dude. He can't shower with my daughter. You know, it's that kind of stuff that should be really uniting. Why is he, why do they hate him so much?
Scott Jennings
Because I think they believe the left believed that they had control of all the institutions, universities, media. They were even taking control of corporate America. When you look around at all the institutional strength in our country, the left had been on a long project to co opt, infiltrate and take these Things over and Donald Trump. And of course, while doing that, they make you believe things. You have to accept that, you know, you can wake up and change your gender one day. You have to accept, you know, the DEI nonsense. You have to accept our radical ideology, or we'll ostracize you from this institution or we'll crush you. Trump shows up and says, I'm just not gonna put up with it. And there were millions of Americans who were dying for someone to try to restore sanity to these, I think, conversations that you rightly say it just used to be common sense. He said what everyone else was thinking, but everybody had been basically made too afraid to say because of punishment, cultural punishment. Trump was their champion, and he still is today. And that's why he has a base that's never going to leave him, because he knows they know that he is going to never, ever back down to this mob that's trying to turn everything upside down and tell you right is wrong and left is right and red is blue and up is down. That's. That's what they want. And he will not allow it. And whoever we nominate next cannot allow it either, because they will come right back.
Glenn Beck
What, what, what do you think his strongest ability is? And the one that maybe is something you're seeing coming on the horizon? You're like, ah, he's got to be paying attention to this. He's got to fix this.
Scott Jennings
Well, I. I think this artificial intelligence conversation he has a really strong handle on. I think he knows we cannot allow the Chinese to control this conversation. I think he knows what we have to do on the energy front to win this conversation. And so I think his vision on that, when we think about legacy, this may be some of the most consequential policymaking that he does. I also, frankly, just think I told.
Glenn Beck
Him that I thought he was going to be remembered as the AI president, and he said, no, I'm not going to be. That's not. That's not my thing.
Scott Jennings
Well, I asked him a couple of. A couple of maybe a month ago, you know, do you consider the AI race to be your space race? You know, is this. Is this that big? Is it your Cold war? And he said, it's all that wrapped up and more. And so, I don't know, I get feeling good for him is he is increasingly understanding that the decisions he makes today, the course that we set today, will determine. So in 10 years and 15 years, when we control this and when, you know, it's the free world that's on top of the AI situation and not the Communist Chinese, it'll be because of Donald Trump. And so I think he's setting all that in motion today. I also think what he's doing in the Middle east and standing up to the barbarians. I mean, it is amazing to me, the propaganda campaign that went on after October 7 and how the West, Western governments and Western media sided with the barbarians. I mean, if you go there and listen to what happened, and it's been total propaganda, but Trump had total moral clarity on this. He's standing up to the people who would leave this world in darkness, ideologies that are the enemy of human liberty. And he knows it, and he's been totally clear on this. And so I think, too, occasionally, someone has to stand up and say, no, enough is enough. And he did that, and he did it strategically at the right time. I think it's going to pay dividends for years to come.
Glenn Beck
Spending the time with him. What did you feel was something that maybe surprised you and something that you think, gosh, if America just understood this one thing, it might change things?
Scott Jennings
Well, the caricature of him would lead you to believe that he is not a good listener or that he is not someone who absorbs a lot of information that informs his opinion. I came away with a totally opposite review. I watched him listen to people having debates. He asks questions, he kind of lobs in his views, but he really does absorb, I think, these debates among this excellent cabinet and this excellent staff that he has. And then he makes a decision. What's great about this president versus the last one is he's decisive. You know, once he listens and takes in everything, he makes a decision, and that's what they do. Biden was famously indecisive, which leads to weakness, which, of course leads to the disaster of that administration. But Trump doesn't suffer from this. That's number one. Number two, this man is genuinely funny. He is warm. He is hospitable. You know, talking about my dad when we were together once, he had his hat on, his famous red hat, and he said, do you want my hat? And I said, no, but I know someone who does. It was the first man to ever tell me you were going to be president. And he said, sounds like a smart guy. He took the hat right off his head. And so he's actually a warm, nice, funny person. And, of course, the caricature of him painted by the media is that you wouldn't believe that. And I lived through this when I worked for President Bush. They caricatured him as adult. Totally not true. They caricature Dick Cheney, they caricature Mitt Romney, they take our Republicans and they turn them into something they're not. And of course, that's, that's the power of the left when they control cultural institutions. So, you know, I think they've done it to Trump to some degree. But of course, his personality tends to cut through the clutter sometimes.
Glenn Beck
You'll be surprised next time you see him could be a year from now and he's going to ask you how your dad was.
Scott Jennings
You know, he is, he. I watched him interact with people in that way. It is an innate political talent and the good ones have it. And he, he has, he, he does care about people. I watched him do it. And he's loyal to people, too.
Glenn Beck
What do you think the, the, the thing that is happening now that it should be being paid attention to, that maybe the media is missing? What's, what's the thing that's most overblown and most underplayed?
Scott Jennings
Oh, gosh. Well, I think the thing we ought to be paying attention to on the left is the energy and the radicalism on the left. You know, the elections the other day, I said on CNN that night, I thought this was the beginning of the end of Chuck Schumer. But it's really the beginning of the end of any semblance of any shred of the possibility of returning to sanity in the Democratic Party. I mean, look how they treat John Fetterman for simply occasionally saying something that's basic common sense or having a backbone. The energy in the socialist, radical socialist movement on the left is real. Happened in New York, it happened in Seattle. They elected a mayor out there who lives in her parents basement but got elected on the power of a socialist agenda. AOC is the leader of this faction. Bernie Sanders is the intellectual godfather of it. And these people will change America. They think the American experiment was rotten at its core. They think it ought to be ripped out root and branch and replaced with something that neither you nor I would recognize as American. They fundamentally hate the system that we have lived with for 250 years in this country. And I don't think we can understate how much energy they have on the left right now, how much momentum they're feeling. And so I know we talk about it, and you know, we've talked about the rise of socialism before, but the urgency of it right now, as we head away from the Trump era and we get into an open presidential election in 28, we cannot allow our country to be taken over. So that's. That's number one. Number two on what's being overblown. I think the. I think the Democrats trying to pin the affordability tail on Donald Trump is the most laughable thing I've ever heard. They took prices to the moon. Gas was $5. Grocery prices, health care craziness. They took prices to the moon. And they want to pin this on Donald Trump or pin this on Republicans? Give me a break. And so the media buying into this is totally overblown. But we have to fight back hard or we're going to have a rough ride. In 26, you're streaming the Best of Glenn Beck. To hear more of this interview and.
Stu Reese
Others, download the full show podcasts.
Scott Jennings
Wherever you get podcasts.
Glenn Beck
Hello, Stu. How are you?
Stu Reese
Good, Glenn.
Glenn Beck
How are you? Good. Besides football, anything exciting happening in your life this weekend? Are.
Stu Reese
Are you talking. When you say football, you're talking about the Eagles victory over the Detroit Lions last night? Is that what you were talking about?
Glenn Beck
I specifically said anything other than that. I was just trying to clarify.
Stu Reese
I was just trying to clarify.
Glenn Beck
No, I know. I. Sure you are. Yeah. Yeah. Sure you were. Yeah. Anything. Do you do anything exciting? I had a whirlwind weekend.
Stu Reese
I had a weekend. I got to go to the hospital, which was fun. I always loved spending time. My son got a little injured.
Glenn Beck
Okay. Is everything okay?
Stu Reese
He's okay. He was climbing a fence and fell and punctured his leg, which apparently is just a giant bag of blood. I mean, these things happen. He's 14 years old.
Glenn Beck
There are muscles and stuff in the leg.
Stu Reese
I don't think. Not.
Glenn Beck
I don't think you're like, his is.
Stu Reese
Just all blocked because I pulled up to this place where it happened, and he had been sitting on this, you know, like a pillar. Like, he was on. He was sitting up there until the ambulance came. But I. I didn't think it was that big of a deal. And I pulled up, and it looked like there was a human sacrifice on the top of this pillar. The entire side. It looked like it was out of a horror movie. It was just blood. I was this. It was a terrifying moment. But he's.
Glenn Beck
Have you ever had. Have you any of your kids ever had a head wound of any kind? Like, they get if they have to have, like, five stitches in their head? It's like all of the blood in their body has just been gushing, gushing out. Their head bleeds a lot.
Stu Reese
Yeah. I hate to start a week this way, but. Yeah. When he was a little kid. He had like, stitches right near his eye. And it was. It was just absolutely horrific. And it scars you more than it scars them.
Glenn Beck
It does, it does. And you know, you get used to it. You have. You have a few kids. The first kid that happens to, and you're like, bag of blood. No, he was hemorrhaging to death. I'm telling you, you gotta get here right now. After, after like two or three kids, you're like, yeah, he's fine. Give him a band aid. What are you complaining about? Have some water, maybe some orange juice.
Stu Reese
Yeah, he's still bleeding. Sure. But don't worry about it.
Glenn Beck
It'll eventually climb. Fine.
Stu Reese
Yeah, that was my weekend. You had a big one, though. You had a much happier weekend, it seemed like. I saw you with your daughter.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, that was yesterday. Was with my daughter for the premiere of her movie that she is in her first movie. And it's really exciting. It was really cool to be at a premiere and watch it in a theater. But also Friday, I spent time with about 500 state legislators from all over the country and learned an awful lot and saw what they are going through and their thought processes. And we have time. I'll talk about that also. Oh, Saturday, Saturday I spent a few hours with the CEO of Cracker Barrel. Now that was interesting.
Stu Reese
I bet that was interesting. You had a conversation.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, yeah, had a great conversation. It's going to air. Well, it's in two parts. I talked to the. They have like a historian at Cracker Barrel that is in charge of everything around the walls of Cracker Barrel. And so I went into their gigantic warehouse of American history. And it was. I mean, it was Candyland for me, but it wasn't really Candyland for the CEO. For the CEO. And you'll. You'll see. Yes, I did make her cry.
Stu Reese
Oh, good. Of course you did.
Glenn Beck
But it was. It was. It was after the. I mean, are you surprised at all that you. You haven't been fired? It was a. It was a very frank conversation. And she was very frank as well. I thought she was. I thought she was really good on her answers and what. What happened. You're gonna have to decide for yourself on whether. Whether or not it was good enough. I mean, I pushed her. I pushed her. It'll be up to you to decide how you feel about it. But you know, everybody else at Cracker Barrel, they're all. They're all, I mean, salt of the earth people, you know, and it's just like you feel bad because they are just really struggling because of this. Really struggling. And if she said, I'm really, really sorry once, she said it a million times. I'm really, really sorry. I take all responsibility for this. I'm really, really sorry. But you'll see that this week on the Glenn Beck Podcast, I think. All right, now, Jeffrey Epstein's back in the news today. Could we just, for the love of Pete, release everything that we have so we can move on from the Jeffrey Epstein thing? Here's the answer. No. Even if we release everything that we still have, this is going to go on for the rest of our lives. It will always and probably into our children's lives. Do you know Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump were the reason we never went to the moon? It's going to happen. It's just one of these conspiracy theories that will never, ever go away. Why? Because no one was honest about it in the first place. Once you start to lie, you lie once. Once. If you're a very honest person, you will lie once. And then people were like, what? What? Why would you lie about that? What? What is going on? He's not like that. But if you're the United States government, you already have no credibility whatsoever. Stop lying to the American people. Just stop it. You know, I said something a minute ago. One of the reasons why you're hearing lies is because it works to the advantage of a color revolution. You know, there. There are reasons why people are lying to you. Some of it, they're just dirt bags and they're liars. Some of it is just they're politicians, and so they're liars. Some of it, however, a good deal of it is we lie because we know it causes damage to the credibility of this entire system. We know it does damage to the culture of America. And we are here trying to destroy the culture of America because we want to try something new. And the only. You won't vote for it. So the only way we can get America to change and do something entirely different that they will never vote for is, is just to cause chaos and disbelief in everything. So, as I said a minute ago, you know, it's not the news. Many times it's a reflection of a plan. And when it comes to the Epstein thing, this is absolutely a plan. The way this thing has been played out, Democrats are completely against bringing anything out about Epstein. They don't want to do anything about it. The media. Do you remember the ABC anchor that went into a commercial break and she was like, you know what? I gotta tell you, Epstein, you know we had the goods on him. Dead to rights, Clinton, all of it. And we were told, pull it. Do you remember that? Remember that gang? They pulled it at abc. They, I think they fired the person who tried to, who released that video or tried to fire the person. I think they either were working then over at CBS or whatever, but that person was in trouble for releasing that behind the scenes tape. They had no intention of it. Now everybody wants the Epstein tapes. Wait a minute, you didn't want them when Biden was in and you could have said something Democrats and you could have released it all. And you know, it's funny is it is just so full of stuff about Donald Trump. Then why wouldn't they release just that? Why wouldn't have the Democrats released anything in the Epstein? You're telling me they're like, we got to find something on him. Hey, I've got the Epstein file. Yeah, yeah, we gotta find something on him. Hey, I've got some information here about Epstein. Him and Epstein, they were fooling around. Yeah, shut up for a second. Is there anything at all that we can construe and manufacture about his banks? I know he's got a secret signal between his bank and the Russian bank. I've got stuff about the Epstein. Come on. If they had stuff about the Epstein, they would have gone to the stuff about the Epstein files. They don't have anything. They don't have anything. Now let me speak directly to conservatives. They're not going to release anything about the Democrats because they had the Epstein files. Do you think that it. Let's just say. I'm not even gonna name names. Let's just say the most powerful people on the earth, the most powerful people with powerful connections to government, they knew their names were, you know, they're on little, you know, guest books at the island or whatever. You don't think they called in some favors and said, hey, I need that, can you remove that? You don't think that there were people that were like, hey, you know what, we'll remove that. We need $100 million from you to help out on this campaign. I mean, whatever it is, those names are gone too. They're gone. How do I know this? Because the government is completely dishonest. That's how I know that. But anyway, you don't think. Now Donald Trump, you don't think anything.
Stu Reese
Of interest would be in these files? I mean, I think we've already seen some stuff of interest in the emails.
Glenn Beck
No, I think there are stuff of interest. I don't think that there is going to be anyone at a very high level that is going to get, there's going to be like, holy cow, look, here's pictures with him with a 14 year old girl. It's not going to happen. That stuff, at least at the upper level, is not there. Now here's what is interesting, the timing of the release of a few documents. Last week the Democrats released some documents and they released them at the same time that Johnson was saying, by the way, we are going to expedite the releasing of everything. So there's no reason to leak anything. But the Democrats decide to leak some stuff. They leak a memo and in that, oh my gosh, look at what was said. What was said in that memo? Well, it was said, you know, the only dog that hasn't barked is Trump. Well, what, what, what, what did he mean by that? He's keeping it quiet. All of these things, all these innuendos and everything. Well, now we know from a guy who wrote the book, all the President's Women, Donald Trump and the Making of a Predator, that guy came out this weekend and said, no, no, no, that's not what he meant. So Barry Levine comes on and he's on MSNBC this weekend and he's asked, so tell me, I mean, we saw this email between you and Epstein. What did he mean when he said the dog has, that hasn't barked is Trump. What do you think he's referring to? Okay, what was he referring to? I think Epstein is referring to the fact that he believed that Donald Trump talked to Michael Ryder, who was the Palm beach police chief in 2004 and began the first investigation into Jeffrey Epstein. So in other words, he was the whistleblower. Yeah, but he's got all kinds of stuff in his, in Jeffrey Epstein's black books, he's the whistleblower. The one thing you don't do is blow the whistle when you know you've got fingerprints all over the dead body and the handgun that killed him. You know what? I think you could find that handgun in this alleyway. Your fingerprints are on it, man. Why would you blow the whistle? The suspect, he said, I suspect that Jeffrey Epstein was saying he was 75% there, believing that Trump might have been the whistleblower. At the time, he believed it, 75%. Now, how do you release something, I mean, if you think things are going to be released that are going to get Donald Trump, why would you release that? Where after two days of it being out, the guy who was part of that email, who hates Donald Trump Is like. Yeah, that's not what it means. It means he was the whistleblower.
Stu Reese
That is interesting. And I will say, you know, it is. It's amazing that that's what they released and chose to release. That's another. That's the same email, by the way, that you're mentioning, that they blacked out the name of Virginia Giuffre, which they did intentionally because she has said that he was nothing but respectful and never was with any of the girls at all in not only her book, but also in testimony under oath. And the other one that they released, which said Trump, he says, of course he knew about the girls. Was the other big one that they released, which they left out the. I mean, they didn't leave it out, but they just hoped you didn't focus on the next part of the sentence, which he says, of course he knew about the girls as he asked Ghislaine to stop, which would indicate even if he was aware of this, which I don't think this had anything to do with the sex stuff. I think this was about him.
Glenn Beck
It was about poaching employees. Girls from Mar a Lago, the employees. He knows that we're poaching these girls. Doesn't mean he knows what he's doing with them. Stop taking my employees. Right. Okay. Yeah. Now, if you suspect he's the whistleblower and he knew you were taking employees from him, you know, in retrospect, you know, looking at it later, you go like, man, he's the whistleblower, but he also knows about the girls. He knows we were taking them. Does he know what we were doing with the girls? Right. I mean, this does not hurt Donald Trump. It helps Donald Trump.
Stu Reese
Well, what about the one where they released from Jeffrey Epstein where he said, I've met some very bad people and none are as bad as Trump? I mean, what if they come up with bad comments from Jeffrey Dahmer about Donald Trump? What will you say then?
Glenn Beck
I've eaten some bad eggs in my life, but I would not eat Donald Trump. I'll tell you that right now.
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Episode: Best of the Program | Guest: Scott Jennings
Date: November 17, 2025
Host: Glenn Beck
Guest: Scott Jennings
In this episode, Glenn Beck dives into the cultural and political transformation of America, focusing on the rift within the Democratic Party, the ongoing fallout from the Trump era, the rise of socialism, and the controversy surrounding Jeffrey Epstein’s leaked emails. The conversation is anchored by guest Scott Jennings, a frequent CNN commentator and author of "Revolution of Common Sense," who shares firsthand insights about the divide in American politics, Donald Trump’s appeal, and the urgent challenges facing both parties today.
“There are at least two different kinds of Democrats...There's that Democrat and then there's the socialist, the revolutionary Democrat.”
— Glenn Beck (06:08)
“He was sort of the leading indicator for me about what was going to happen in middle America...He [Trump] was speaking to millions of people.”
— Scott Jennings (20:36)
“They make you believe things...Trump shows up and says, I’m just not gonna put up with it.”
— Scott Jennings (22:58)
“I asked him...do you consider the AI race to be your space race?...he said, it’s all that wrapped up and more.”
— Scott Jennings (25:09) “He’s decisive. You know, once he listens and takes in everything, he makes a decision, and that's what they do.”
— Scott Jennings (26:43)
“He’s actually a warm, nice, funny person...his personality tends to cut through the clutter sometimes.”
— Scott Jennings (26:43)
“You’ll be surprised, next time you see him...he’s going to ask you how your dad was.”
— Glenn Beck (28:24)
“The energy in the radical socialist movement on the left is real… These people will change America…”
— Scott Jennings (29:00)
“If they had stuff about the Epstein, they would have gone to the stuff about the Epstein files. They don't have anything.”
— Glenn Beck (40:53)
“The one thing you don't do is blow the whistle when you know you've got fingerprints all over the dead body...”
— Glenn Beck (43:53)
“I've eaten some bad eggs in my life, but I would not eat Donald Trump. I'll tell you that right now.”
— Glenn Beck (47:00)
| Time | Segment/Topic | |----------|--------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:28 | Opening themes and episode preview | | 04:06 | Democrat strategy: chaos, revolution, and party factions | | 18:28 | Guest intro: Scott Jennings' background and new book | | 20:36 | Trump’s rise and resonance with the working class | | 22:58 | Why the institutional Left fears Trump | | 24:37 | Trump’s policies: Artificial intelligence and foreign policy | | 26:43 | Trump's leadership qualities: decisiveness, warmth | | 29:00 | Radical socialism’s rise and the realignment of the Left | | 35:04 | Epstein email leaks, political manipulation | | 41:43 | Trump’s role in the Epstein saga: Whistleblower or suspect? | | 31:39 | Humorous personal moments, Beck on family and nostalgia |
This episode offers a vivid snapshot of the current political moment as seen by Glenn Beck and Scott Jennings: the lasting shockwaves of the Trump era, the volatile metamorphosis of the Democratic Party, and the perpetual intrigue of the Epstein case. Rich in historical context, personal anecdotes, and rhetorical combat, it powerfully illustrates the deep divides shaping American culture and politics ahead of the next election cycle.