J.D. Vance (14:02)

Unbelievable.

Glenn Beck (14:07)

Do you believe in miracles? It was called the Miracle on Ice. Movies have been made about it. It was an announcement party was what really it was. It was the changing of the guard. It was the birth of a new era. Herb Brooks brought together a group that everyone said could not win at a time when America was convinced it could not win. And what it announced is America's back, and we're not going to be pushed around anymore. We would no longer be taken advantage of. We would no longer allow people just to laugh at us or belittle us because we were back. Reagan came in shortly after. Now, like 1980, we've just spent four years under a political ideology, as Carter put it, that strikes at the very heart and soul and spirit of our national will. Our young people, they don't care about America anymore. They don't have pride or love for the country because we haven't raised them that way. In most cases, school is saying there's no reason to be proud of your country. People take it for granted. They're ashamed of the accomplishments of America, her history, and the very ideology on which she stands. Now. Before I get into this last part, I want to say I don't like the arguments between us and Canada right now. I don't like it. We've always been friends, and it's a beautiful country. It's cold. I don't want to. I don't want to live there, and I don't want it to be the 51st state. I think it's actually pretty funny that our president is calling the prime minister the governor, but the Canadian government, led by their progressive prime minister, our governor, Justin Trudeau, is an annoying mascot for everything that is wrong in global politics. While he was at the hockey game on Saturday in Canada between the national Canadian team and the U.S. national team, rumor was our boys were a little sick and tired of being booed every time the national anthem is sung, and they weren't going to take it. Canadians didn't care. Why would they? Our country, under the Democratic Leadership has been toothless and apologists for four years. We've been taught to be ashamed of our country. Why not boo the national anthem? And boo they did if you saw made your head explode. When the puck finally dropped at the start of the game, the American center, he barely looked at the puck. He didn't care about playing the game at that point. He immediately tore off his gloves, dropped his stick and clocked his opponent, taking him to the ground. When the referees pulled the American away, he skated with his head high, glaring at the hostile crowd. The message was clear. Screw Old Glory. To your peril was kind of awesome. There were a total of three fights in the first nine seconds again which I didn't like. But the Americans were on a mission. The intensity through the game was brutal and the Americans delivered an old fashioned American beatdown. The U.S. team delivered a message and won 3:1. I don't know, was it the Miracle on Ice of 1980? Because that was more than a hockey game and I couldn't help but feels the same way on Saturday. I think America is back. We're not ashamed. We're not going to be intimidated nor cower anymore. But we don't hate our neighbors. We just love our country. What she stands for and the birth of a new, prosperous and proud era I think is upon us. Congratulations, Team usa. Relief Factor Inflammation. The word sounds unpleasant just as it is. It's the thing that really causes most of our pain in our body and a lot of our disease. Little thing called Relief Factor can give you your life back. I did mine. It's a daily supplement that helps your body fight pain by fighting inflammation, which is the source of most of the pain in our bodies and a lot of our disease. It's 100% drug free, developed by doctors to help reduce or eliminate pain. Over a million people have tried Relief Factor's Quick Start Kit. 70% of them have gone on to order it again. So make this year the year that you start feeling great again. Try Relief Factor three week quick start. Take it as directed for three weeks and see if it doesn't make a difference in your life. It's less than a dollar a day. It is $800 for relief. $800 the number four relief or visit relieffactor.com now back to the podcast. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program. Senator Tom Cotton. Welcome to the program, sir. How are you?

Senator Tom Cotton (19:21)

I'm doing very well, Glenn. It's good to be back on the program with you and looking forward to talking about just what a dangerous risk China poses to American way of life.

Glenn Beck (19:29)

Yeah. You know, I read your book. I haven't finished it yet, but I've been reading it. You talk about the seven things you can't say. Let me just say them. China is an evil empire. Thank you. China is preparing for war. China is waging economic world war. China has infiltrated our society. China has infiltrated our government. China is coming for our kids. And China could win. That's what your book lays out. Let's take some of these one by one. China's an evil empire. Clearly make the case, Glenn.

Senator Tom Cotton (20:09)

As Ronald Reagan said about communist Russia, we could say the same thing about communist China. It's an evil empire. That's something that is often unsaid in our society because China has infiltrated so many corners of American society. And people don't want to lose contracts or access or jobs or what have you. But I think a simple look at the facts tells you that China in some ways is probably worst than Soviet Russia ever was. Remember Mao Zedong, the founder of Chinese communism, is the worst mass murderer in all of history. Worse than Stalin, worse than Hitler. And China has never repudiated him. You know, when, when Stalin died, Khrushchev and the Politburo kind of exputed him, so to speak, and repudiated him. China venerates Mao to this day. You know, his picture hangs over Tiananmen Square. His remains are still embalmed in a mausoleum. Xi Jinping, the current dictator of China, is an open Maoist and aspires to be more powerful than even Mao. But just look at what they've done to their people. The monstrous crimes against their people, like the Great Leap forward in the 1950s and 60s killed anywhere from 45 to 50 million people. The Cultural Revolution in the 1960s was an effort to totally destroy all of cultural Chinese traditions. Much worse than anything you saw in the French Revolution. The one child policy, which continued well after Mao, probably resulted in more than 300 abortions. 300 million abortions and 200 million forced sterilizations.

Glenn Beck (21:43)

And how many people had their child, their baby, and then only to have the Chinese government come in and drown it in a mud puddle. I mean, they are brutal.

Senator Tom Cotton (21:57)

Yeah. And just. And what they do today in Tibet and Xinjiang, trying to ethnically cleanse and erase those peoples forever by taking their kids away from them and putting them in communist indoctrination schools. Or consider Christians, Gwen. Many people are surprised to know that China is one of the largest Christian nations in the world. Maybe as many as 100 million Christians in China. Yet they face severe persecution. They face risk of arrest and punishment. Children are banned from going to church or Sunday school and required to sign atheism pledges at school as they try to snuff out Christianity among the next generation. China is even rewriting the Bible literally. It's substituting the word of God with the word of Mao. And of course, they treat other religious and ethnic minorities even worse. I mean, consider the Falun Gong, a harmless spiritual movement, you know, that has roots in Buddhism. Americans, to the extent they're familiar with it, have probably seen them doing their yoga and breathing exercises in parks, all because of one peaceful protest. 25 years ago, these people had been brutally oppressed, tortured, disappeared, murder. There's Credible reports that 10,000, tens of thousands of them have had their organs harvested while they're still alive. Glenn, Again, China could not be more brutal, more depraved in the way it treats its own people. And it's really constructed a kind of techno, totalitarian police state beyond the wildest dreams of George Orwell, the author of 1984. He said in that book that tyranny is like a boot stomping on the human face forever. With China, you might add, it's a smartphone app monitoring the human face forever.

Glenn Beck (23:48)

You know, I talked to Chris Stewart a couple of years ago, and he said, going over to China, he said, you know, we were informed there's. There's nothing secret here. Don't bring your phone. Don't. Don't do anything. He said the only place that wasn't under surveillance was up against one corner in the shower. He said everything else is being watched. Everything is being watched and listened to. That is a Panopticon.

Senator Tom Cotton (24:19)

Oh, absolutely, absolutely. Glenn. More than half the world's surveillance cameras are in China. Think about that. China makes up maybe, you know, a sixth or a seventh of the world's population. But more than half of the surveillance cameras are in China. They are everywhere. And they're also powered by advanced machine learning and artificial intelligence. China boasts that it can identify the face of any one of its subjects anywhere in the country in just a matter of seconds. And it's right about traveling there, I can tell you. I mean, I've never personally been there. I don't plan to. Glenn. I was sanctioned five years ago for pointing out the origins of COVID and standing up for Hong Kongers freedom. But I know people have traveled there to include people who traveled there for US Government business or just as US Government employees. And China isn't even subtle about it. You know, they said that they would create a dummy account on Gmail or Hotmail or some other web based email just so they could tell their family or friends that everything's going fine. And they'd open it up at night and all the emails would already be clicked as read. So, you know, the Chinese Communist spies were reading their emails and not even bothering to mark them as unread.

Glenn Beck (25:34)

No, I think they want you to know. They want you to know.

Senator Tom Cotton (25:37)

Yeah, they're so aggressive and so blunt force in the way they want to push you around. It's like what Chinese officials have said. The countries on their periphery is that you're a small country and we're a large country and therefore you have to dance to our tune.

Glenn Beck (25:53)

So I want to come back because there's so much to talk about, COVID and everything else that is really, truly evil. But before we leave into the next thing you can't say about China, why is it, do you suppose? I mean, we, we all think that we would be, you know, for the emancipation of slaves. You know, if I lived in 1850, I would have been all over it, really. Because what's happening in China is slavery. And we are all buying Apple products. We're all buying Google products. Google is in bed with China. Facebook is in bed with China. I mean, everybody is. Why is it we can't seem to understand that China is an evil empire? We kind of got it with the Soviet Union.

Senator Tom Cotton (26:42)

Well, Glenn, I would say that our people do understand that China is an evil empire. They may not understand the full extent of it. And that's what I want to explain in my first chapter in 7 Things yous can't say About China, about how it is an evil empire. But however bad they think China is, however dangerous it is, it's actually much worse. But it's a lot of our elites that want to paper over it, that don't want to ring the alarm, which is what I'm trying to do with this little book, in part because our elites are often co opted by China over the last 40 years due to failed policies that frankly, both parties supported. In the 1990s and the 2000s and the early teens. We shipped not just jobs or this or that factory or even business overseas. We shipped entire industries overseas. And there are many, many Americans who are deeply invested in China and who won't say a critical word about China, even raising the point that slave labor is being used in northwest China to oppress ethnic and religious minorities. So much so that companies came up to the Capitol years ago and were lobbying against legislation that would force them to inspect and audit their supply chains to make sure that Chinese slaves, literal, actual slaves, were not making products in their supply chains. They were lobbying against that legislation. Unbelievable. Again, probably China was compelling them to. And you could just see when they testified that their bosses had said, you know, we know this is going to put you in a hard spot with Center Cotton and other China hawks testifying, but if you say a single word that cost us any business in China, you're gonna be fired immediately.

Glenn Beck (28:27)

So where is the president, do you think, on recognizing that China is an evil empire?

Senator Tom Cotton (28:34)

Oh, I think there's no question that Donald Trump is the toughest president we've had on Communist China since at least the end of the Cold War and probably the end of World War II, since the Chinese Communists took over in 1949. I mean, I guess Eisenhower could give him a run for his money, Glenn. But I mean, remember, Eisenhower threatened to nuke Communist China. That's what it takes to be tougher on China than Donald Trump. And for Eisenhower, in some ways, it was easier because Eisenhower was a Republican. The Republican Party was 100% behind Chiang Kai Shek, the nationalist Chinese government that lost the Chinese civil war and repaired across the Chinese or the Taiwan Strait to Taiwan. So Eisenhower had the wind in his sails on being tough on China. When Donald Trump came into office eight years ago, he had the wind in his face because you still had, by and large, bipartisan consensus that we shouldn't rock the boat with China, we shouldn't confront them, we shouldn't make them feel uneasy. We're still going down this path of so called economic liberalization, which is going to lead to political moderation, which had long since been disproven. And, and President Trump really changed the terms of the debate about China. There's still a lot of people who are not as strong as he is or as I am or some other Republicans. But you saw it with President Biden's administration. He was very hesitant to reverse President Trump's policies on China. He reversed almost everything else, but he was hesitant on China because he knew how unpopular China is and that the American people do recognize China as a threat, even if they don't understand the full extent of it, because so many of our elites refuse to speak these truths.

Glenn Beck (30:19)

You're streaming the Best of the Glenn Beck Podcast to hear more of this interview. Find the full episode wherever you get podcasts. So last hour, I played a little bit of J.D. vance's speech at the German or Munich Security Conference. And he talked about how free speech is under attack in Europe. And he didn't just point out that it was Europe that was having this problem, but he said it had to end. But let's not stand here and point the finger at you. Let's point it to ourselves as well. Cut seven.

J.D. Vance (30:58)

And in the interests of comedy, my friends, but also in the interest of truth, I will admit that sometimes the loudest voices for censorship have come not from within Europe, but from within my own country, where the prior administration threatened and bullied social media companies to censor so called misinformation. Misinformation like for example, the idea that coronavirus had likely leaked from. Leaked from a laboratory in China. Our own government encouraged private companies to silence people who dared to utter what turned out to be an obvious truth. So I come here today not just with an observation, but with an offer. And just as the Biden administration seemed desperate to silence people for speaking their minds, so the Trump administration will do precisely the opposite. And I hope that we can work together on that in Washington. There is a new sheriff in town and under Donald Trump's leadership. We may disagree with your views, but we will fight to defend your right to offer it in the public square. Agree or disagree?

Glenn Beck (32:06)

Wow. Didn't go over well. In fact, here's the Munich Security Conference chairperson closing out the convention. Listen, this conference started as a transatlantic.

Stu Burguiere (32:19)

Conference after the speech of Vice President Vance on Friday.

Glenn Beck (32:24)

We have to fear that our common value base is not that common anymore. I'm very grateful to all those European politicians that spoke out and reaffirmed the values and principles that they are defending. No one did this better than President.

Stu Burguiere (32:42)

Zelensky, let me conclude. And this becomes difficult.

Glenn Beck (32:56)

He was applauded for crying that we don't have the same values in common anymore. If this is the way Germany and the rest of Europe feels about free speech, then yes, we don't have the same values. And I don't care if we stand completely alone. We've done it before. And when it comes to freedom of the individual, if that's what it takes, that's who we must become. We have to square our shoulders and remember our principles. Yes, if you want to shut down free expression and free speech, which means you have to let the worst be said so you can actually have dialogue, learn from one another, learn from the past, and not just become a zombie robot with an out of control government that you can never speak against, well, that's who we are. That's what we stand against. Uh, I will tell you that their own people, I can guarantee you are not for it. How do I know? Well, let me show you what happened on 60 Minutes. Here's 60 Minutes joining a German police censorship raid.

Stu Burguiere (34:16)

It's 6:01 on a Tuesday morning, and we were with state police as they raided this apartment in Northwest Germany. Inside, six armed officers searched a suspect's home, then seized his laptop and cell phone. Prosecutors say those electronics may have been used to commit a crime. The crime? Posting a racist cartoon online. At the exact same time across Germany, more than 50 similar raids played out part of what prosecutors say is a coordinated effort to curb online hate speech in Germany.

Glenn Beck (35:00)

Now, I don't like hate speech. I don't like seeing racist cartoons. But that is part of life. It depends on who's in power, on how you define hate. And when you have a government able to take away inalienable rights, you have a real problem on your hand. 60 Minutes continues.

Stu Burguiere (35:27)

Is it a crime to insult somebody in public? Yes, it is. And it's a crime to insult them online as well?

Glenn Beck (35:34)

Yes. The fine could be even higher if you insult someone in the Internet.

Stu Burguiere (35:40)

Why?

Glenn Beck (35:41)

Because in Internet, it stays there. If we are talking here face to.

Senator Tom Cotton (35:45)

Face, you insult me, I insult you. Okay, finish.

Glenn Beck (35:48)

But if you. In the Internet, if I insult you.

Stu Burguiere (35:50)

Or a politician that sticks around for forever. The prosecutors explain German law also prohibits the spread of malicious gossip, violent threats, and fake quotes. If somebody posts something that's not true and then somebody else reposts it or likes it, are they committing a crime?

J.D. Vance (36:11)

In the case of reposting, it is.

Senator Tom Cotton (36:12)

A crime as well, because the reader.

Glenn Beck (36:15)

Can'T distinguish whether you just invented this.

J.D. Vance (36:18)

Or just reposted it to do that themselves.

Stu Burguiere (36:21)

Punishment for breaking hate speech laws can include jail time for repeat offenders.

Glenn Beck (36:26)

Jail time? Jail time. If you say something offensive about a politician. Did anybody catch that? If you say something offensive about a politician, you can be charged with a hate crime. You do it several times and you'll go to prison. Javol, mein Fuhrer, that's a question of how much did we have in common before J.D. vance's speech? Apparently not that much. Apparently not. Clearly not.

J.D. Vance (37:00)

If those are your laws, it's a crime.

Glenn Beck (37:04)

You can't trust people to be able to decipher whether a quote is fake or not.

J.D. Vance (37:09)

It's their.

Glenn Beck (37:11)

It's not their responsibility to look it up themselves. Listen to cut 3. CBS not pushing back to build their cases.

Stu Burguiere (37:21)

Investigators scour social media and use public and government data. Lau says sometimes social media companies will provide information to prosecutors, but not always so. The task force employs special software investigators to help unmask anonymous users. So this is suggesting you kill people seeking asylum here. Lau says his unit has successfully prosecuted about 750 hate speech cases over the last four years. But it was a 2021 case involving a local politician named Andy Grote that captured the country's attention. Grote complained about a tweet that called him a pimmel, a German word for the male anatomy. That triggered a police raid and accusations of excessive censorship by the government. As prosecutors explained to us in Germany, it's okay to debate politics online, but it can be a crime to call anyone a pimmel, even a politician. So it sounds like you're saying it's okay to criticize a politician's policy, but not to say I think you're a jerk and an idiot.

Glenn Beck (38:30)

Exactly. Comments like, you're son of a bitch. Excuse me for these words have nothing to do with political discussions or a contribution to a discussion.

Senator Tom Cotton (38:40)

And it's up to him to decipher whether it contributes or not.

Glenn Beck (38:43)

Yes. Yes. Perfect. Boy, you better be careful if you're going over to Germany anytime soon. 60 Minutes finally asks about some free speech issues. Listen to this.

Stu Burguiere (38:53)

The criticism that, you know, this feels like the surveillance that Germany conducted 80 years ago. How do you respond to that? There is no surveillance. Josefine Ballon is a CEO of Hayde, a Berlin based human rights organization and supports victims of online violence in the United States. A lot of people look at this and say, this is restricting free speech. It's a threat to democracy. Free speech needs boundaries, and in the case of Germany, these boundaries are part of our Constitution. Without boundaries, a very small group of people can rely on endless freedom to say anything that they want while everyone else is scared and intimidated. And your fear is that if people are freely attacked online, that they'll withdraw from the discussion. This is not only a fear, it's already taking place. Already half of the Internet users in Germany are afraid to. To express their political opinion. They rarely participate in public debates online anymore. Half of the Internet users, yeah, of.

Glenn Beck (40:00)

Course, you're putting them in prison when they get the. When they say the wrong thing. I mean, it is Gestapo. With today's technology, I've warned you, with today's technology and what is right around the corner, you put a Hitler in charge of it and there's not a Jew left in the world. There's no place to hide in the entire world. This is extraordinarily dangerous. Now, that's. That was the extent of the CBS pushback on the Germans.

Senator Tom Cotton (40:30)

That was a lot.

Glenn Beck (40:31)

Then you get Marco Rubio, and they go to Marco Rubio to ask him about this. Listen.

Stu Burguiere (40:38)

Well, he was standing in a country where free speech was weaponized to conduct a genocide. And he met with the head of a political party that has far right views and some historic ties to extreme groups. The context of that was changing the tone of it.

Glenn Beck (41:01)

And you know that.

Stu Burguiere (41:02)

That the censorship. I have to disagree with you specifically about the right.

J.D. Vance (41:06)

No, I have to disagree with you.

Glenn Beck (41:08)

Free speech was not used to conduct a genocide. The genocide was conducted by an authoritarian Nazi regime that happened to also be genocidal because they hated Jews and they hated minorities and they hated those that. They had a list of people they hated, but primarily the Jews. There was no free speech in Nazi Germany. There was none. There was also no opposition in Nazi Germany. They were a sole and only party that governed that country. So that's not an accurate reflection of history. The free speech caused the Holocaust. Amazing. Free speech. You couldn't speak out against the Nazis. Does. Who doesn't learn that in school? Well, probably most Americans and clearly the journalists here in America. You had no free speech. How do you get everybody to give the Heil Hitler salute? You don't do that by becoming popular. They didn't. They did it by beating people in the streets. You will do this when we salute. If you don't, we'll beat you to death in the streets. And we can get away with it because our guy is in power. There was no free speech. This is insanity. Now, I want to show you what. What J.D. vance said that made the guy cry in Germany. Now, I want you to remember that the Munich Security Conference chair cried at the closing of the conference. Cried because he realized the United States was no longer on the same side as Germany and Europe. Now, that seems crazy, but, no, I'm not on the same side of people who want to silence anyone. I am not for the silencing of people on the left here. I am not for silencing the people in the middle or the right. Even to the extreme, free speech is an absolute. Unless you're calling for violence and it actually turns into violence. No, but you can say whatever it is you want. I know that sounds extreme. It didn't used to, but apparently it does now. Here's what J.D. vance said. And if you think that German Germany is the problem, listen to this from JD Vance.

J.D. Vance (43:41)

Cut Six, I look to Brussels, where EU commission commissars warn citizens that they intend to shut down social media during times of civil unrest the moment they spot what they've judged to be, quote, hateful content. Or to this very country where police have carried out raids against citizens suspected of post anti feminist comments online as part of quote, combating misogyny on the Internet. A day of action. I look to Sweden, where two weeks ago the government convicted a Christian activist for participating in Koran burnings that resulted in his friend's murder. And as the judge in his case chillingly noted, Sweden's laws to supposedly protect freedom expression do not in fact grant, and I'm quoting, a free pass to do or say anything without risking offending the group that holds that belief. And perhaps most concerningly, I look to our very dear friends, the United Kingdom, where the backslide away from conscience rights has placed the basic liberties of religious Britons in particular in the crosshairs. A little, a little over two years ago, the British government charged Adam smith Connor, a 51 year old physiotherapist and an army veteran, with the heinous crime of standing 50 meters from an abortion clinic and silently praying for three minutes. Not obstructing anyone, not interacting with anyone, just silently praying on his own. After British law enforcement spotted him and demanded to know what he was praying for, Adam replied simply, it was on behalf of the unborn son he and his former girlfriend had aborted years before. Now the officers were not moved. Adam was found guilty of breaking the government's new buffer zones law which criminalizes silent prayer and other actions that could influence a person's decision within 200 meters of an abortion facility. He was sentenced to pay thousands of pounds in legal costs to the prosecution. Now I wish I could say that this was a fluke, a one off, crazy example of a badly written law being enacted against a single person. But no. This last October, just a few months ago, the Scottish government began distributing letters to citizens whose houses lay within so called safe access zones, warning them that even private prayer within their own homes may amount to breaking the law. Naturally, the government urged readers to report any fellow citizens suspected guilty of thought crime. In Britain and across Europe, free speech, I fear, is in retreat.

Glenn Beck (46:29)

What part of that did you disagree with? What part of that makes you want to embrace the European Union? For me, it's quite the opposite. I've always believed that Europe are brothers and sisters and we're fine and we should help one another. But I have to tell you, I no longer am comfortable with a single dollar going over to Europe to defend those kinds of policies. You're not on the same side. We are not on the same side. If you violate freedom of speech that way. And remember, this is why Klaus Schwab told Europe, just believe in the system. Well, what is the system? We found out the system is if the people vote for a candidate that is not going to play ball, if they are at all in line with freedom of speech, they're a radical need to be shut down. And we cancel that election until the people get it right. That's a dictatorship. We are seeing the hatred of the old Germany and Europe start to grow again. And Europe could become a very large foe of freedom.