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Best of the Program | Guests: Allie Beth Stuckey & Justin Haskins | 2/3/26
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What is Utah doing? We have warned on the right about expanding the court for a long time now. That is, that is a signal of a dying republic. And the Utah GOP expands the state Supreme Court. What is wrong with you, Utah? We talk about that. Also, Ali Beth Stuckey, she's just been lambasted in an editorial written by Hillary Rodham Clinton about how evil Allie Beth is. She's a good friend of the program and she's going to talk about that and why Hillary Clinton has it all wrong. And Justin Haskins, the next big crash. You don't want to miss any of today's podcast. Here it is. Sometimes the most important moments in a person's life happen when they feel the least prepared for them. Positive pregnancy tests can bring a flood of emotions all at once. Fear, confusion, pressure, and a sense that time is just moving way too fast. In those moments a woman needs, what she needs most is not judgment or poverty, politics. She needs somebody to slow things down and show her she's not alone, just love her. That's what preborn does. Through a network of clinics, they provide free pregnancy tests, free ultrasounds, real compassion, real support for women who are facing an unplanned pregnancy and they just don't know where to turn because they don't have anybody in their life that will support them. An ultrasound can be a turning point because if somebody is pressuring her that this is short circuited because she sees what's happening, she sees that's a baby and it changes her. It makes it totally different outcome really possible. Preborn is there in that critical women window, helping women with practical help, resources and hope when everything else seems gone. One ultrasound is 28 bucks. Your gift is tax deductible. Make a donation now. Just hit £250. Say the keyword baby. £250, keyword baby. Hello America. You know, we've been fighting every single day. We push back against the lies, the censorship, the nonsense of the mainstream media that they're trying to feed you. We work tirelessly to bring you the unfiltered truth because you deserve it. But to keep this fight going, we need you right now. Would you take a moment and rate and review the Glenn Beck podcast? Give us five stars and leave a comment. Because every single review helps us break through Big Tech's algorithm to reach more Americans who need to hear the truth. This isn't a podcast. This is a movement. And you're part of it, a big part of it. So if you believe in what we're doing, you want More people to wake up. Help us push this podcast to the top rate review share together we'll make a difference. And thanks for standing with us. Now, let's get to work. You're listening to the Best of the Glenn Beck Program. Hey, Ali, how are you?
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I'm doing well. How are you?
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I am great. Ali Bestucky, who is the host of Relatable on Blaze TV and author of a great book, Toxic Empathy. So I found out this weekend that I was in the Epstein files. And I first went, what? And then I realized it was him and some other dirtbag writing about basically how much they hate me and, and my listeners. And I was like, oh, I gotta. I gotta make a T shirt. I was in the Epstein files because they hated me. I love that.
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When you found out compliment.
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Yeah, it is, isn't it? You've got an even bigger one. You've got Hillary Clinton writing an op ed about how toxic your toxic empathy book is. I mean, that's gotta feel good. Yeah.
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You know, I was talking to my dad and husband, just having a nice afternoon chat, and I looked out at my phone and it started buzzing and I got a message that said, hillary Ronald Clinton just wrote a hit piece on you in all caps. And I couldn't believe it until I read it myself. And what's interesting about this is that, you know, my book is not new. It came out in October of 2024. So about 15 months later, we've got former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton taking out 6,000 words in the Atlantic to talk about how terrible my book is. You know, it is a badge of honor. It also helped book sales a little bit. But honestly, I'm just trying to wonder what. Try to figure out what her strategy is.
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So explain toxic empathy what it is.
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Yes, yes. This is something that she didn't distinguish in her op ed, to no surprise. You know, I think the left actually understands the concept. They talk about things like toxic masculinity. And what they'll say is that not all masculinity is toxic, but this form of masculinity is toxic. And yet when I talk about toxic empathy, they pretend that I'm saying that all compassion is toxic and bad. And that's not what I'm saying at all. I say that empathy becomes toxic when it leads you to do three things. To affirm sin, to validate lies, or to support destructive policies. So your empathy becomes toxic when you feel so deeply for one particular person, a purported victim, that you are blinded to both reality and Morality, you are so focused on this person that you forget that there are other people on the other side of the moral equation. So you feel so deeply for the man who says that he is born in the wrong body and is meant to be a woman that you forget about biological reality and ignore the rights and the privacy and the fairness of the girls on the other side of the equation. So I think that toxic empathy is really the explanation for the support of all kinds of destructive policies when it comes to immigration, crime, gender, abortion. And so it doesn't surprise me at all that progressives don't like that we're giving that a name and calling it out.
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So, Ali, explain it. Go specific on the use of toxic empathy or the demonstration of toxic empathy, for instance, in Minnesota.
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Yeah. Yes. Such a good question. So we see this decontextualized image of this young boy, and he's standing with law enforcement officers. And immediately, and rightly, it evokes a sense of sadness and outrage and pity for this boy who was put in this situation. And then a narrative is attached to it. And instead of asking, hey, is this true? Or what's the alternative explanation? Our hearts want to believe that it's true because it seems right that this boy was kidnapped by these ICE agents, he was separated from his family, and this is the cruelty of the Trump administration. There's some confirmation bias there, but really, we just feel so deeply for this boy that we believe the victim narrative that has been attached to him. And then because of that, you say riots are justified, the protests are justified, and abolishing ICE or defunding the police are all justified in the name of helping little boys like Liam. The problem is your empathy for that boy has actually blinded you to what is true. It has paralyzed your critical thinking. So you're not asking the question that all of us need to ask. How do I know that's true? What's the greater context? Can I believe this person? What are the sources being cited? And what is the other side of the story that we are not being told? That is the. That is the danger of allowing your empathy to overtake or eclipse your critical thinking skills. We have to have both compassion and this truth and love approach that is, you know, necessary in our critical thinking process as we decide on policy.
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You know, you know, when you look at the, the Democrats. I've got something I'm going to talk about here in a little while, about how the things that they're shouting at people, the things they're saying about, you know, I hope you Die, I hope your wife dies. I hope your children are killed. All of these things. And they say, they claim they're doing it out of love. They claim they're on the side of love. And those two things don't connect at all. I mean, that was the genius of Martin Luther King and Gandhi and Jesus, he connected them. Your words and your actions must demonstrate love and never cross into hatred or retaliation, revenge, any of that stuff. And they held the line. These guys don't have a line. And I think it's because of the loss of eternal truth. They've lost or maybe never had, some of them, the understanding of what Jesus was actually teaching or what Martin Luther King was actually teaching. And so they've become the exact opposite of those. And yet they don't see it.
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Yeah. Gosh, so many good points there. There was a book that came out before mine in 2016 that wrote about the dangers of empathy from a secular psychological perspective by a Yale psychologist named Paul Bloom. And he talks about this concept of being full of empathy, mean as hell. And what he measured was that in students that measured higher on empathy, that they are actually crueler to the out group. So what happens is you feel so deeply for one purported victim that anyone who you see as in opposition to that victim, so in opposition to the illegal immigrant, in opposition to the woman seeking abortion, you can justify cruelty and hatred against them, because in your mind, you are fighting against the oppressor. And so really what happens there is when you exchange empathy for virtue, Christian virtue, what you're talking about, it actually doesn't make you more loving on the whole. It actually can make you cruel towards the people that you now perceive as your enemy. And that is why exchanging the truth in love, exchanging true virtue for empathy, is actually a very harmful exchange.
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So my concern, the thing I think of every day is how do we point this out? How do we save people? Because I think this, this is why they emphasized on your feelings. They emphasized your feelings, your feelings, your feelings. You know, and Ben Shapiro, for years, facts don't care about your feelings, but that's why they emphasize feelings. Because if you concentrate on feelings, then reason shuts down, and then you get enraged and it shuts down even further. So you have all of these people that I think they're actually thinking they're doing the right thing, but they've shut down the thinking process so deeply that they're not. I mean, they're just trapped. So how do you reverse this?
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Yes, because feelings also don't care about your facts. And that's exactly why they emphasize the emotion. And so yes, facts and logic, all those things are so important and do have the power, they can have the power to be persuasive and pull people out of their delusion. However, I also think that we need to tell the story on the other side of every issue. Something I do in my book. I tell the story that the media is telling, for example, about a woman who wants an abortion but has been forced by these evil pro life laws in Texas to keep her child. And of course the left sees that as something that is draconian. But I tell the story from the baby's perspective. This is what would have happened to this baby had there not been this pro life law in Texas. She would have been poisoned, she would have been dismembered, she would have been tossed aside like toxic waste. It was actually because of this pro life law that she was carried, that she was delivered, loved and named and buried like the dignified image bearer of God that she was. Sometimes people need to see that there is another side of the story that demands your heart too. There are Kate Steinle's, there are Lake and Riley's, there are Molly Tibbets's who are also your neighbors that need your compassion and your eyes and your love. And when you allow people to zoom out and show them there are other people on the other side of this political issue that you're talking about, sometimes that expands their understanding to the point that they can be persuaded by facts.
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I'm just making a list here of as I'm listening to, I'm making a list of the things that, that led to all this that you have to reverse. I mean this is why, you know, feelings were so important. This was, is why ends justify the means was so important to them. Yes, you can do anything. If the, if, if just what happens in the end is all that matters. You can, you could justify anything. Why they kept shouting shut up, shut up, shut up. Don't ask questions, just go along with it. I mean all of these things but built this army of almost automatons that are just not thinking for themselves.
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When you think about those agitators that infiltrated that church in St. Paul, one of the refrains that they were repeating was hands up, don't shoot. So still, however many years later is it 12 years later, maybe they are still repeating that refrain from Michael Brown's shooting that has been debunked by the Obama doj, by the Washington Post. To your point about the ins justify the means like A lie is justified. Agitation, violence, cruelty is all justified if you are defeating Nazis, which of course is why the local politicians rhetoric there is so dangerous because these people feel absolutely justified in traumatizing elderly, women and children because they're doing so in the name of defeating fascism.
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Real quick, how do you solve it real quick? What a stupid thing to say.
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We all are doing our part to show people there's another side of this story. I'm on the battleground of Instagram trying to pull people out of this propaganda that women are so easily sucked into and remind them God has given you a brain. There's a lot of people that make a lot of money based on you being stupid and you don't have to fall into that trap. You are a smart person, person who's able to think and see the other side of this story. So join me in the journey of seeking truth.
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Ali Best Stuckey. The name of the book is Toxic Empathy. The author of the op ed against that theory and against ally is Hillary Clinton. So there's a good endorsement and she's also the host of relatable on BlazeTV. Ali, always good to talk to you. Thank you.
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Thank you so much.
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I could, I could set that up for you if you want. Junior Fellow sounds about right. No.
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You have to do stuff.
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No.
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Maybe that's why I'm not a senior or a junior, because I don't want to do anything. But anyway. Author of the Next Big Crash Justin, I admire you so much as, you know, your research. You have a great research team and your research is impeccable. And the things that you found that we're going to go through in your book may take us a couple of days this week if you're around. But I think it's so important because I'm not sure a crash, when a crash is coming. But somebody asked me just the other day and see if you agree with my answer. They said, glenn, what's, what's next? And I said, well, I can't tell you exactly what's next because an event is going to happen. I don't know what that event is, but the next big event could be a crash that changes absolutely everything. Would you agree with that?
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Yeah, 100%. In the first chapter of the book. Most of the book is not about what will cause the next big crash or trying to predict when the next crash is going to happen. Most of the book is about the effects of it. That's the really scary thing. But in the first chapter, I talk about these trigger events, all these potential things that are lining up, and there are so many of them that could cause a crash. And I think everyone who's watching this show, we want the economy to be successful, we want the Trump administration to be successful. He's doing a lot of the right things. But still, you could have another pandemic. You could have an AI.
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You have war.
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You could have war. You could have some sort of AI event that, where you could have the Wall street could shut down. I mean, the Chinese are hacking into infrastructure, they're testing things out, trying to figure out a way that there's all kinds of crazy things that could happen. The derivatives complex, which we talk about a lot in the book, is super dangerous, super dangerous. The gambling that's going on on Wall street, really bad things are over.
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Those CDOs are what caused those. Those CDOs is what caused the problems in 2008. We all knew it. It was all verified. We're going to clean that up. They doubled down, tripled down on those things. They made it much Worse than it was in 2008, correct?
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Yeah. 100. 100%. I looked this up the other day. Derivatives. For those who don't know, a derivative is a, it's a, it's an investment. That's the derived, its value is derived. That's why it's called the derivative from some other kind of asset. But it's basically just, you can think of it as guessing or gambling. At its worst, it's sort of like gambling. The derivatives complex is so massive right now, the total value of all the derivatives is $1,000,000,000.00. quadrillion,000, that's the size of the derivatives market. Far more value is in the derivatives market than there is actual value underlying it. So if you have a gigantic crash, everything comes crashing down. They don't have the assets to support $1,000,000,000 worth of stuff. It's incredibly dangerous.
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A quadrillion dollar, is that a trillion? Trillions?
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I don't even know. I don't think we can conceptualize it.
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Quadrillion is like when I was a kid, trillion, we thought was like a made up number. It wasn't a number. It was like quadrillion. I don't even know what that is exactly.
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Unbelievable.
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That's insanity.
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Insanity. So in the book, and this is, and this is the big part, the only reason why any of these things, the derivatives complex, any of this other stuff that we're going to talk about exists is because over a long period of time, your property rights were taken away from you and you had no idea that it occurred. And Wall street has used this new system that we're going to talk about today to build the derivatives complex, to build all sorts of risky systems within Wall street that's allowing them to get rich because you no longer have your property rights when it comes to your investments.
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Okay, so let's take this one step at a time. First, when you put money in a bank, unless you're in a private bank, that money is being loaned out to others. And after 08, the banks got together with Barney Frank and then the Republicans as well and made it so you are the lender of last resort. And what that means is if, if I'm the lender of last resort at, you know, Bob's Hamburger Shop, and I've, I've, you know, ponied up a million dollars to help him build this, but others have ponied up as well, and I'm the lender of last resort. It means he's got, if he goes bankrupt, he has to pay everybody else Off. He can use the money from, you know, liquidation and everything else. And I'm the last one at the trough, so I get whatever is left if there is anything left over. When you put your money in a bank in 2008, part of the thing that they did 2008 to correct the system was they made the American depositor the lender of last resort. So when you're putting your money into a bank to keep it safe, they're loaning it out. That means you're a lender to the bank. You're not a customer of the bank. You're lending them your money. They put it into whatever they want to put it into. Risky. If it goes away, you don't get your money back. You're the last in line to be paid. So the little guy gets screwed every single time. And I thought that was bad. But that's the tip of the ice. That's what's above the water level that you can see.
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Yes. It's so much worse than that. So much worse than I ever imagined. So this story that's contained in the Next Big Crash is about this unbelievable conspiracy that occurred over several decades to take away your property rights when it comes to your investments. So primarily what we're talking about here are Wall street investments, securities investments. So stocks, bonds, ETFs. When you think of investing on Wall street, that's what we're talking about in the nineteen 401k.
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All of it, yes.
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In the nineteen sixties and seventies, a powerful special interests, working with potentially the CIA, maybe. We talk about that in the book at length, got together and decided, we're going to transform the way people own these investments. At the time, they were having a paperwork crisis. Cause everything was done on paper in the 1960s and 70s and prior to that too. So if you bought stock, you would actually get a paper certificate with your name on it. It was your stock. And the problem with this is when you're buying and selling and it's happening increasingly more now, you gotta do lots of paperwork. And it was causing problems for Wall Street. So what they decided was, you know, what if we just made investments, we took all the stock, all the bonds, took everything, and we put it all in one institution. And we made that one institution the owner, the direct, registered owner of all of these investments. And then what we do is we give people contracts so that they have an interest in this, but they don't actually own the asset itself. Well, that's exactly what they ended up doing. And in 1970, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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I just want to make sure I understand. So if I have a. Not to single anybody out but a Schwab account, and I have my money, my 401k and everything else. And I have it at Charles Schwab. And they tell me, you own this many shares of this and this many shares of that. I've never received the certificate of ownership of that stock. They have it. You're saying they hold it and. But they're holding it in a big pile of stuff. And you get a share of that. You're not the actual owner of any of that stuff.
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You're the owner of a contract that gives you certain benefits related to those shares. You don't own the shares, and Charles Schwab doesn't own the shares either. Only one institution owns the shares. It's called the Depository Trust Company. And it's part of the Federal Reserve. Depository Trust Company. Dtc. Part of the Federal Reserve.
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So evil. Yes, so evil.
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They own basically about $80 trillion worth of stock. And other securities investments are owned by dtc. That's the direct registered owner of all of these investments. So when you go and you buy a stock, you think you're buying stock. You invest in your retirement account, you think that you own those things. You don't actually own them. You have a contractual interest to the underlying assets asset, but you don't really own it. Now, the big. One of the big reasons. One of the big benefits to this system is if you don't really own it, then they don't need your permission to do all kinds of different things with it, because they can now because it's not yours. So they can lend it out to other people. They can build the whole derivatives complex, the gambling that goes on, margin accounts. All of these things where you're basically borrowing stock, you're borrowing. You're putting money up to borrow more stock. You're gambling. All of that is because of this system. It wouldn't be possible without it. The whole thing is built on this model that you don't really own it. So they built this model, and they've made a fortune off of it. Not only because trading volumes have dramatically increased on Wall street, but also because now they get to do options tradings and futures and all these other things that they weren't really able to do at scale prior to this. So they've made a fortune. But then they got even greedier and they said, you know, there's all sorts of risk involved in this system. So in the 1990s, they changed the laws again. At the state level. Most of these laws were changed, by the way, at the state level. 1990s, they changed the laws again. That gave these too big to fail institutions the ability to essentially keep your investments if a financial institution uses those investments as collateral in a loan. I know this is getting like a little bit complicated, but let's say, for example, you give your money to an investment management firm, the investment manager goes out and they're not supposed to do this, but let's just say they do. And we have examples of them doing it. They use your investments as collateral to go get a loan at another institution, at a bank or something, maybe because they're failing and they're desperate and they need to do it and they're not supposed to be doing it. There's regulations against it, but they do it anyway. Okay, so they do that and then they can't pay the loan back because they're crashing. According to the laws that are on the books right now, the big bank gets to keep your investments. The big bank can take your investments as collateral and keep it for themselves, even if the institution wasn't supposed to lend it, put it up as collateral in the first place. So all of then there's emergency powers laws that are on the books now. All of this is in the book, the next big crash. You can see all of the evidence for yourself. But this is a extremely dangerous situation that they have built on Wall Street. And we've had people on the record who built this system saying this was done in preparation for, quote, an Armageddon, an Armageddon like scenario to make sure that the too big to fail institutions would be protected and individuals could lose everything as a result of it. It, it's terrifying. And most people have never heard of any.
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It's so evil. It is just. I mean, I am convinced that the Fed and how it was built. I'm not saying the people of the Fed, although I'm sure there's some very nefarious people in there. I'm just saying the system that was built is an evil system because it is meant to protect the money and the system and not the people whose lives are the ones supporting all of it. The ones who, who are the. I mean, when you put a system over people, which they have done without, without including the people in any of this knowledge, I honestly just. I've. I've heard a lot of crazy things that I thought that can't be true. I've heard a lot of things that I thought were just out and out crazy. And I've heard a lot of things that I just think are evil. This is right there at the top of these of those things. And you know, you came to me with this, I don't know, months ago and we looked into her like, oh my gosh, he's right. All of this is accurate. This is not the, I mean Justin is very, very good. You can read about it in the next big crash. But wait, there's more.
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Let me lose our with some amazing news. First, the Artemis looks like it's going to be pushed back to March. Supposed to launch here soon. But you know, let's, let's take a minute. For any of us, any of us are old enough to remember what happened to the Challenger. The Challenger blew up because it was sitting on the pad and the temperatures in Florida went below freezing. Well, that's exactly what has happened. These are solid booster rockets that are strapped to the side of Artemis, the same kind that were on the Challenger. I know we found the o ring problem, etc. Etc. Are supposed to solve that, but I'm hoping that they're going to put that thing back into, in, you know, take them a day to roll that back into the shed, if you will, and test it, make sure we can't afford to lose the Artemis. But the other thing that happened yesterday is the largest company now in the history of the world, the most valued company in the entire world was created. SpaceX and Xai merged yesterday. That makes them the most profitable, most expensive company in the entire world. And I have to tell you, when I heard that last night, I thought, gosh, I feel like it's 1910 and somebody said you should invest in the Bell system. Yeah, maybe, maybe this might be att, it might be the railroads, might be Pan Am. You know, when Pan Am was something this, this is huge. And let me explain right now. SpaceX has announced yesterday that they are going to launch a million satellites into space. A million satellites into space for the cloud and for AI processing. AI processing up in space. You can keep it cool and you don't have to have any of the water problems, you don't have any of the cooling problems, the energy problems, etc. Etc. I mean it's a perfect place to have processing done is up in space. He's going to launch a million satellites. To give you some idea right now, humanity has roughly 14,000 active satellites operating and orbiting Earth. Okay? That's every nation, that's every military, that's every weather system, every GPS signal, every communications platform humanity has ever put into space is 14,000. Okay? So now SpaceX has filed plans of a million satellites over time going up into space, even if only a fraction of that number is ever launched. This is not an expansion of what exists today. This is a complete redesign of space around Earth. This is a replacement of the scale itself. So to understand this, stop thinking in terms of technology and start thinking in terms of history. Okay? When I first heard this, a million satellites, and I know we have 14,000 in space, I thought to myself, wow, that's kind of like somebody saying, yeah, I know we're expanding and I know it's 1820, but everything west of the Missouri river is mine. Okay? I mean, the 1800s, power in America was not decided by the speeches. It was decided by who controlled the rivers and then later who controlled the railroads. When the railroads crossed the Missouri river, it wasn't just steel that was moving west, it was law, it was commerce, it was time, it was settlement. The cities lobbied for the railroads. Please put the railroad tracks by us. Cities died when the railroads bypassed them. Okay? No one announced everything west of the river is ours. They didn't have to. They built it first and then everybody else had to adjust around that. And that is exactly what Elon Musk is doing right now. Except the frontier is not land, it's the sky. Low Earth orbit is not infinite. I think there's, I want to say 6,000 in low earth orbit. There are only so many usable altitudes out there. And you know, you start launching things up into space, there's only so many collision tolerant corridors. So there's so much junk up around that you, it's, it has to be very carefully coordinated at small numbers. Satellites coexist at massive numbers. They define everything. You place tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of objects into those corridors, you're no longer participating in space. You're designing and structuring it. Think of it this way. This isn't somebody claiming land west of the Rockies. It's closer to one company building every road, every bridge, every highway, and say everybody else can use them, but we built them first. Control doesn't require ownership, it requires scale. And that is what Elon Musk is very good at. Scale. And this matters because for the first time in history, a private company is positioned to shape the planetary structure or infrastructure, a layer of infrastructure, faster than governments Cheaper than any nation with replacement cycles measured in months, not decades. I mean, empires used to control land, remember? I mean, this is exactly what the, this is what the Vanderbilts did with railroads. You know, they controlled the railroads, navies controlled the seas, nations controlled airspace. This is completely different. This is the normalization now of something entirely new. The sky itself becoming managed infrastructure. Okay? And history tells us something really, really important when this kind of stuff happens. Really important. People who arrive first, they don't just win. They set the rules that everybody else spends decades trying to renegotiate. So this isn't a warning, this is just an observation here. Every great power shift in history look small right up until the time it doesn't. And by the time most people look up, the frontier is already gone. The other thing you have to understand, this is going to change our skies forever. You put a million, put half a mil, put a hundred thousand more satellites up into lower orbit space, it's going to change the look of the sky. When you go out at night, you're going to see a different sky. This, this is a game changing announcement yesterday. Game changing. I'm not sure I like it. I just want to point out it's massive. Now let me come closer to earth, closer to what is happening in our world. Yesterday, I'm going to go into this in a second. Yesterday there was a judge in Texas who made this crazy, crazy ruling on habeas corpus. And we're going to get into that because it ties into the, into the, into judges overreach, but also what's happening with ice. Okay, before I get there, let me tell you something else that's crazy that's going on and it's happening in Utah. And Utah, listen to me carefully. You are in trouble. You are in trouble. I don't care what party you belong to. Every American should understand what Utah did is trouble for the Republic. And you're going to become California. So look out, Utah. What are you thinking? The Republicans in Utah. You want to talk about being hypocrites? Here it is. When we talk about packing the corpse, what do we all say? Don't do that. That's the end of the Republic. It's always the end of the Republic. When somebody starts packing courts. The next people that get in, they're like, oh, well, you change that number so I can change that number too. We're going to have 12, we're going to have 20, we're going to have 30, we're going to have 55. You see Venezuela, you see Cuba. You see any country that has ever done this, they fall into totalitarianism because they realize they can just change the referees. They'll just add more referees, and they'll add the referees they like. Utah has had a real problem because you have all these judges that are legislating from the court. That's not the job of a judge. That's not what a judge does. They accepted. Utah accepted. I think it's the Missouri system or the Missouri reform. I don't know what it is. Something to do with Missouri. And what it means is they're going to get together with all of the legal experts, and the legal experts are going to say to the governor, these are the ones you should pick from. Oh, okay. No, no. Can we stop being a country run by experts? We see exactly what the experts have done in every category. Stop it. So they decided because the court system is overwhelmed. No, not the Supreme Court. The federal courts are. The state. The state courts are. But not the state supreme Court. There's a massive backlog in the lower courts, you know, and people have been begging, hey, help us, help us. And they were ignored. So they decided to expand the Supreme Court. Why? That wasn't overrun. It wasn't overwhelmed. This is not about efficiency. This is all about control. And I understand you have bad judges and they've been legislating, but you don't do this. Utah, you should hear history echoing here, okay? Cause this is what happens all the time. When a uni party takes hold, The Republicans, you know, the Republicans have had control of Utah forever. And so they're doing exactly what's happening in Texas. They get soft, they get mushy. They get embarrassed that they actually believe in the Constitution. And when power moves as a single organism, protecting itself, correcting its losses, punishing resistance, this is what they do. They made all these mistakes, all these compromises. And then what happens after the compromises are there? They see what the result is, and they're like, oh, I shouldn't have done that. Okay, well, let's do something even more dumb. Let's pack the Supreme Court of the state. Republicans, you don't get a pass here because Democrats would do it, too. That argument damns the republic. It doesn't save it, it damns it. A legislature that expands a court after losing cases is not defending a republic. It's announcing. Constitutional limits only apply, you know, unless they're inconvenient. What kind of hypocrites are running the gop? And here's the deeper problem. Problem that nobody wants to Say out loud. For decades, our universities have been captured by ideologues who openly despise the Constitution. I have a. I have a podcast coming with. Oh, gosh, what's his name? Constitutional scholar. Yeah. Jonathan Turley. It's coming out this week. And he was talking, kept ringing the bell. You don't understand what's happening in the universities, Glenn. It's Marxism. And they're all against the Constitution. They're teaching Marxism not as theory but as morality. And they're training our lawyers and our judges and our journalists and the bureaucrats to see the problem as something to be managed, not framework to be defended, because the framework is just not good anymore. The media, overwhelmingly drawn from the same institutions, doesn't, you know, doesn't check this drift. It sanctifies it. It. And in a state that was raised on the Constitution, you know better than this. Have you just grown timid, Apologizing before you even stand up, square your shoulders and say, this is what the Constitution says. These are our founding principles. Why are you shrinking from conflict? As if defending principles is somehow impolite? It is not impolite. It is required of you to stand. A Republican can. Cannot survive this kind of shyness. I know you're polite. I know you don't want to. I know you want to get along with everybody. You must stand, or you will lose everything. You're going to become California. And then you think that. You think that state's going to last. Are you kidding me? One side is ruthless and the other side is reserved. And the ruthless always win. I know. That's why we packed the coat. The court. No. You don't violate your own principles or you become everything that you despise. Utah once prided itself on being different, unusual, peculiar, grounded, constitutionally serious. You're not. This. This your road you're on. It's not leading you to any of that. When courts become political tools, when legislatures punish judges for rulings instead of fixing the law, when every law is answered with structural manipulation, you don't get Utah, you get California. Not all. Not all at once. Not overnight, but inevitably, you get it, and you're almost there. And once you cross this line, which you just crossed, there's no neutral ground left. Every future majority is going to feel justified doing exactly the same thing, only faster and only harsher. You think they're going to stop at seven? You had five. You increased it to seven because it's overwhelmed. That's a lie. That's a lie. Numbers are numbers. Math is math. Sorry. Gop Math is universal. And some of us know the difference between an overwhelmed system and one that's not. Math is just a number. This is how separation of power has become a memory instead of a guardrail. I'm going to show you what just happened in Texas. Okay? Utah and Texas. This isn't just a bad bill. This is a warning flare to the rest of the country. Republics that ignore warning flares. You don't get a second chance on this one. When you start screwing around with the balance of a state or national supreme Court. Your republic is destined for disaster. Okay? That's just the truth. I don't like saying it. I don't want to be the one saying it. But if you're doing it, somebody's got to point it out. And saying, what are you doing? Do you want that to happen at the federal level? You just set a precedence. It's not going to stop there. Oh, yeah, but we're always going to control. Oh, are you? Are you? Have you seen the numbers moving into your state? Have you seen what's happened to Fort Worth just this weekend? That's not conservative anymore. Fort Worth, it's known as Cowtown. That's not Dallas. That was the conservative part. Nope, not anymore. Not anymore. Because Republicans were just like, we're Texas. We'll always be Texas. Have you seen the numbers of the people moving in from California, Florida? I warn you, have you seen the numbers moving in from New York? These people are not the ones that moved because they had a point. They now moved because it's just too expensive. It's just too crazy up there with taxes. They don't know they were the ones who built all of that system. Be careful. Be careful. Bad move, Utah.