Best of the Program | Guests: Clay Travis & Wade Miller | 8/6/26

Summary

The Glenn Beck Program – Best of the Program | Guests: Clay Travis & Wade Miller | 8/6/26

Episode Overview This episode of The Glenn Beck Program offers a mix of deeply personal reflection, cultural criticism, and political analysis. Glenn discusses the disturbing incident involving Perez Hilton, explores the historical and psychological significance of public spectacle and suffering, and interviews Wade Miller on the “Red Green Alliance”—the emerging partnership between Marxist and Islamist forces. Rounding out the program, Glenn speaks with Clay Travis about the ongoing controversy over transgender participation in women’s sports, satirically pitching an all-trans women’s basketball team. The episode is marked by Beck’s blend of emotional insight, social commentary, and candid political talk.

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1. The Perez Hilton Incident: Technology, Trauma, & Ancient Spectacle

[00:04–18:37]

Main Points:

• Glenn recounts the recent, widely-shared live-stream in which Perez Hilton self-harmed on TikTok, drawing thousands of viewers, some of whom tried to help, while others simply watched or recorded.
• The incident is contextualized both medically (Hilton’s difficult year: medical trauma, near-death experiences, newfound religious faith, stress from a cross-country move as a single parent) and spiritually (the concept of demonic attack or evil forces).
• Beck reflects on the ancient parallels, invoking St. Augustine’s account of spectators at the Roman Colosseum, painting modern social media spectacle as a digital amphitheater.

Key Insights & Memorable Quotes:

• “It’s a horror show. An absolute horror show. He’s cutting himself … and thousands of people watched it happen.” – Glenn Beck [06:00]
• Beck draws a poignant parallel between the Colosseum and TikTok:
  “The only thing that has changed is that the amphitheater fits in your hand, that the Colosseum is in your hand and it never closes.” [15:30]
• On the nature of public evil and online voyeurism:

  “Devil doesn’t need to possess anybody to win Tuesday night. He just needs 15 minutes in a crowd that just can't look away.” [17:30]

• Calls for responsibility and compassion:
  • Don’t share or view the content;
  • Recognize that faith and medical help are not mutually exclusive;
  • Pray for Perez’s children:

    “Pray harder for the three kids who are under 14 who are now going to grow up in a world where the worst night of their father's life is a file that somebody saved.” [17:50]

• Emotional encouragement:

  “You’re okay. There is forgiveness. You’re not too far gone. … And I know that God is one of [those rooting for you].” [18:30]

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2. The Red Green Alliance: Interview with Wade Miller

[18:43–28:41]

Main Points:

• Beck introduces Wade Miller, Executive Director at the Center and Citizens for Renewing America, who recently published a white paper on the “Red Green Alliance.”
• The “Red Green Alliance” is defined as a fusion between the Marxist left (“Red”) and doctrinal Islam (“Green”), collaborating to undermine Western civilization, capitalism, and constitutional government.
• Wade argues that while this alliance is temporary (Islamists would ultimately “dispose of” Marxists once goals are achieved), it’s a potent threat to the American way of life.
• The U.S. Senate recently held a hearing on the influence of the Muslim Brotherhood and DSA within American politics—no Democrats attended.
• Miller and Beck contend mainstream America underestimates the scale and radicalization of imported Islamic culture, and question the compatibility of political Islam with American democracy.

Key Insights & Memorable Quotes:

• On the alliance’s goals:

  “It requires the toppling of Western civilization, of capitalism, etc. Now, of course, at the end of this... the Islamists kill them, they execute them … so it's not a durable alliance. It's a short-term means to an end.” – Wade Miller [20:20]

• On Senate inaction:

  “Not a single Democrat showed up for that hearing. That should tell you something, shouldn’t it?” – Glenn Beck [23:05]

• Miller argues the mainstream right is hesitant to address the scope of the issue due to political correctness and fear of violating constitutional principles.
• The core warning:

  “Red Green alliance is an existential threat to the republic, uniting neo Marxists and radical Islamists around the shared goal of destroying America's constitutional order, capitalism, and Western Christian tradition.” – Glenn Beck [24:58]

• They discuss the need for public policy responses, including refusal to seat elected officials openly advocating the overthrow of the U.S. Constitution.

Signs of Hope:

• Beck points to recent election results (El Sayed’s narrower-than-expected win) as evidence that most Democrats, particularly in non-elite and religious communities, may oppose this radical shift.
• Miller suggests that, while demographic and political trends are troubling, there is an opportunity to make the case for American values to those uneasy with radicalism’s direction.

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3. Satire & Sports: Interview with Clay Travis on Transgender Athletes

[32:33–43:21]

Main Points:

• Beck brings in Clay Travis (host of the Clay and Buck show) to discuss his satirical proposal: the “Nashville Balls,” an all-trans women's basketball team, as a facetious way to reveal the logical extreme of transgender inclusion in female sports.
• Travis argues that, by the logic of current “inclusivity,” such a team would dominate the WNBA, ridiculing the league’s refusal to make a stand for biological sex in women’s sports.
• Discussion of real-life cases (e.g., US women’s soccer team losing to boys’ teams) to underscore athletic differences, and critique the ideological rigidity of sports organizations.
• The conversation touches on the cautiousness of WNBA star Caitlin Clark regarding outspoken support, interpreting her silence as a “Jordan-era” apolitical brand strategy.
• Travis also highlights the contradictions within left-wing identity politics, noting the cultural inconsistency of celebrating gender fluidity while denouncing “trans-racial” identity.

Key Insights & Memorable Quotes:

• On the “Nashville Balls”:

  “It is to have an all trans team, Nashville Balls expansion franchise in the WNBA. We will be the first all male identifying as women team. … Our slogan, you'll like this Glenn, is one love, one love, two balls.” – Clay Travis [32:56]

• On sports absurdity:

  “Sometimes you have to follow absurdity with more absurdity and actually call these people on the logic that underpins what they would suggest.” – Clay Travis [34:36]

• On Caitlin Clark’s silence:

  “I think Caitlin Clark is rejecting in many ways the LeBron era … instead she's trying to go back to the Jordan, Tiger Woods era of appealing to everyone. And Glenn, the example … is she was asked who she was going to vote for in the 2024 presidential election, Kamala or Trump. And she said she didn’t want to answer.” – Clay Travis [37:44]

• On gender vs. race in identity politics:

  “If you change your race, you're racist and you're assimilating … But if you change your gender, you're a hero and it must be immediately affirmed.” – Clay Travis [43:14]

Notable Moment:

• Glenn and Clay both agree that if allowed, an all-bio-male team would dominate the WNBA, thus exposing the logical flaws and practical unfairness at play.

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4. Closing Remarks & Personal Reflections

[28:52–32:33 & 43:21–44:41]

• Glenn shares plans to take two weeks off to focus on his family, citing concerns about what his children are learning culturally and a desire to instill strong values.
• He requests prayers for his family’s safety and spiritual guidance during their travels.
• Communicates his ongoing commitment to exploring the cultural and political undercurrents shaping America's future.

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Important Timestamps

• Perez Hilton & Spectacle Analysis: 00:04–18:37
• Red Green Alliance (Wade Miller Interview): 18:43–28:41
• Clay Travis, Transgender Athletes & Satire: 32:33–43:21
• Notable Quotes & Commentary interspersed above with time markers.

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Tone and Style

The episode is candid, passionate, personal, and in moments, darkly humorous. Glenn Beck engages in philosophical and moral reflection while also embracing satire with his guests, maintaining a critical but accessible approach to deeply divisive issues.

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Ideal for listeners seeking:

• In-depth, emotionally honest takes on new media-fueled cultural phenomena
• Conservative critiques of emerging political alliances and ideologies
• Lively, satirical discussion of current controversies in sports and gender policy
• Personal, faith-tinged reflections on parenting, trauma, and hope

Transcript

[A]

Great, great show. You should listen to the whole thing. But if you only have, you know, a few minutes here, let me give you the best of we. I talk about Perez Hilton. I didn't talk about him yesterday because I didn't know exactly how to approach it and what to show and what not to show. And so I went back to history and I found the answer. What's happening with Perez Hilton is so disturbing and so sad. But we've been here and I want to tell you and give you the historical pin on this one. It will change the way you look at exactly what is happening with Perez Hilton. Also, I spoke to Wade Miller. Wade is. He's just written a great piece for the center for Renewing America on the Red Green Alliance. And this is what I put on the chalkboard. In 2010, the Islamists and the Marxists and the communists and the. And the radicals will all gather together and work against Israel, the United States of America, capitalism, to destroy the Western way of life. It didn't have a name back then. It does now. It's called the Red Green Alliance. And just yesterday, the Senate had a hearing on the effect of the Muslim Brotherhood on our politics in America. Muslim Brotherhood is really a nasty organization. And the dsa, you know how many Democrats showed up for that hearing? None. None. You need to understand what Wade is saying. This is a civilizational killer. And you need to understand. And he has some things that you can do. The last thing is. Well, I, I had Clay Travis on because Clay, who is the host of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show right after my show on the Premier radio network. He. He's come up with a. The most inclusive basketball team for the NBA. It's called the Nashville Balls. And it would finally be men breaking the glass ceiling for women. It's an all trans woman. Is that the right way to put it there? Men. But they're calling themselves trans women. Men. Whatever. The national. The Nashville Balls. And we talked to him about that. All of today's podcast. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. So it's Tuesday night, Miami Perez Hilton. He's alone in his house. He's live on Tick Tock. I won't describe what happened next enough to say it's a horror show. An absolute horror show. He's cutting himself and it looks demonic. It really does. He's covered in blood. And thousands of people watched it happen. He's alive. It's been verified. It's not AI. It's not a trick. He's in the hospital, all kinds of lacerations. He's also undergoing psychiatric evaluation. His family put out a statement asking for privacy and thanking people for their prayers. His own manager said Wednesday they still have not been able to reach him. Now, as I told you for five months before Tuesday, this is the part that's worth your time. In March, he got the flu. He took his medication without food and it burned a hole in his stomach. Ulcer perforated. He went septic and spent 21 days in a hospital in Las Vegas and nearly died. Twice he got a blood clot in his leg, another procedure so close to death. Twice he came out of that. And as I just played for he told the world God had presented himself to him. He was careful about the wording. He said it was not a feeling. He said he grew up Catholic, baptized first communion confirmed, seven years of Jesuit school. That's a problem. And then that he had never really been a believer until now. And he said God had been calling out to him for years and he no longer needed to hope. He said, I have it. And he said, I started to take my kids to church every single week. Then he posted a nine minute video apologizing as a man who built his empire out of cruelty. He made his money for 20 years, drawing on photographs of people's faces. And he said, my mistakes are public there. The Internet is forever. Receipts are forever. I carry deep regret and shame. And then he publicly and privately apologized to dozens of people. And he said there were still people out there that wanted me to suffer and pay. And he said that's valid. I earned those thoughts, but I forgive myself. In June, he said God told him to move to Miami and he took his three kids, all under 14, back to the city where he grew up. On July 22, on Instagram, he was grinning, reading Bible verses about the value of work, joking that scripture says work, work, work. Both centuries before Rihanna said it, okay. Monday, he posts something else about stepping away from the spotlight. And he closed it by wishing well to anyone out there who is hurting. Then Tuesday night comes Miami Dade Sheriff's office start getting calls. This is, this is, is this the case of illness? Let me make that case. Look at the load the man was carrying. Septus that nearly killed him. Three weeks in bed, emergency surgery. A clot. Emergency surgery. A single father of three small children with no second parent in the house tore up his life in Las Vegas. After three and a half years, moves across the country. Five weeks ago, on camera, he tells his audience he's in A spiral. He's anxious, he's overwhelmed. He feels the devil is coming after him. The body does things to the mind. It does. Critical illness, septis, long ICU stays. They leave people in real cognitive and psychiatric damage, and it shows up sometimes weeks or months later. Add sleeplessness, a move, no support system. The man had just spent five months publicly excavating his 20 years of shame in front of his own audience. Okay? Bad, bad. I'd say the same thing about a lot of what we're watching all the time. A young man charged with shooting an insurance executive on the Manhattan sidewalk. Young man charged with killing Charlie Kirk, the man who, after President Trump, when the mind arrives at a place where killing a stranger is the logical next step, something in that mind has come apart. Okay? So we could leave it at that. We could leave that. This is medical, okay? And it. And it very well might be, prosecutors in those cases argue ideology, not illness. Manifestos, planning, rehearsal. That is. That isn't confusion. That's conviction. Okay? And I think every. All of this can be true. And that's the uncomfortable part. Ideology doesn't create the sickness. It gives the sickness a target and a script, and it hands a disordered mind a reason and a costume. Okay? Now here's the part that people are going to get wrong one way or another, okay? And I'm not going to tell you what's inside of his head. I'm not going to tell you what's going on because I don't know. You don't know. His doctors barely know anybody who goes on television or on podcasts this week and diagnoses either chemical or a demon in a stranger that you've never met is selling you something. I'm saying just pray for him, whatever it is. But I wanted to point something out because of him, but separate from him, 15 minutes, thousands of people, some of them begged him to stop. Some of them just hit record. Some of them reposted it specifically so it would outlive the takedown, and it did. TikTok says its automated systems flagged the stream within minutes and then routed it to human moderators. And then, in their words, a moderator error caused a delay in the removal. A moderator error, which means somebody had it up on a screen and they decided not to stop it. A man bleeding, an audience, and a machine engineered to gather the crowd and hold it there. You can call that technology if you want, but it's the oldest architecture in the history of man, and we've been here before. I really wrestled with the reason Why I didn't talk about this yesterday is because I really wrestled with this. I went Back to Augustine 1600 years ago. Augustine writes down what happened to his best friend. His name was Alapias. He was young, gifted, studying law in Rome. One afternoon, all of his friends grab him and drag him to the Coliseum for the games. And he fought them the whole way. He said, you can haul my body into that place, but you cannot make me watch it. I will be there, but I will be absent. And he sat down in the amphitheater and he shut his eyes. Then something really gruesome happened. Man goes down in the sand, in the sand, and the entire crowd roars at once. And Alapius opens his eyes. Augustine says his friend took a wound in the soul deeper than the wound the fighter took in his body, and he drank it in. He was not the man who had walked through that gate. He was now one of the crowd. And he came back to the crowd, to the Coliseum. And the next time he brought other people with him. Notice what got him? Not the men who dragged him, not the gladiator. It was the roar of the crowd that got him. What got him was the belief that he could sit in that room and not be in that room. Tuesday night, there were thousands of people in that room. Read what they wrote afterwards. I didn't go looking for it. I wish I wouldn't have seen it. It's my job to see things and then decide, what do I show you? But I'll tell you. 1600 years, the only thing that has changed is that the amphitheater fits in your hand, that the Coliseum is in your hand and it never closes. So make the case for evil. I think you can make a case that evil is on a rampage. I think I have friends who are being affected by the dark side, and they all are friends that have just found Christianity or found God. And I have warned one of my friends. When he said, you know, I just started reading the Bible. I said, please be careful. Please be careful. Read it. Pray. Listen to him. Read the words, but be careful what comes around you, because you have a very strong voice. And Satan does not want your voice right now preaching God. Be very careful, because you will come under attack in ways you cannot understand. I know I have been there. And when you least expect it, expect it. I've been in a hospital once, and they had me on so much medication, and I was at a spiritual high. When I went in, I had to have some surgery done. I was at a spiritual high. And they I have very high tolerance. You know, I'll. I'll drink you under the table. I. I mean, I have such a high tolerance. I've woken up on the operating table twice. They just can't keep me down, and they couldn't keep me out of pain. And so they gave me fentanyl and morphine and all kinds of this cocktail that should have killed me, but I was in the hospital from a spiritual high. In 24 hours, I would have thrown myself out of the window, because now this could be spiritual. I believe it was. Could be just medication. But I swear to you, I heard you think you know how I can destroy you. I will destroy your family and take it apart piece by piece. And in some ways, that has happened to my family. But I would have thrown myself out of that window. I'm telling you, I believe God is real, but I believe Satan is just as real. And we are now in the battle of the big boys. And we can choose a side. I don't know if Perez something had taken hold of him or not. Maybe it was just sickness that had taken hold of him. I have no idea. Neither do you. That's why I decided not to talk about him. I want to talk about. We've been here before. We're a civilization that is rebuilding the Coliseum, and we put it into every pocket of our children's clothes. We keep it open for 24 hours, and we call the roar engagement. If you don't believe in evil, just call it an incentive structure, because the behavior is identical either way. That's rather the point. And believers hear me, because we get this backward more often than not. Sometimes I think the temptation is to look at a suffering man and see a demon and look at a sick man and see a sinner. Devil doesn't need to possess anybody to win Tuesday night. He just needs 15 minutes in a crowd that just can't look away. So let me give you three things, and I'm done here. Don't watch it. Don't share it. Don't click on the repost that's captioned, you can't believe this. You can't shut down the amphitheater, but you can decline to be part of the roar. And that's the only vote that any of us get. Second, if somebody tells you God showed up in their hospital room, that's not a symptom. Take them at their word, but keep watching them anyway. Conversion is not immunity. A real encounter with God does not exempt anyone from a body that has been through hell and some of the most serious believers I've ever known have also needed doctors in bad ways. Those two sentences are not in conflict. God is a healer. God is a scientist. We have all of the capability. We can heal through our hands to some degree by using his power, him channeling through us. But we also need doctors. We've spent centuries now pretending one of them cancels out the other. It doesn't. And the third thing is pray for him. Pray harder for the three kids who are under 14 who are now going to grow up in a world where the worst night of their father's life is a file that somebody saved. Pray for all of those who are in positions and have future positions that they might not even know about that are under attack. And then put down the device and pick it up when you've decided you're going to call that person you've been meaning to call for three weeks because somebody was in that live stream chat begging a stranger to stop. There's very likely somebody closer to you that is waiting for a much smaller thing. You know, I was praying for the lord to inspire me the other day. I said, please, lord, let me hear what people need to hear. And he always responds with something. It's never about politics or anything else. It's always personal. And what I got that day and I shared it with the insider is. And I want to share it now because I feel prompted to do it. You're okay. You're okay. I don't know who this is for. Maybe it's for you. You're okay. There is a way out. Your life isn't over. You haven't made too many bad mistakes. There is forgiveness. You're not too far gone. There are those who you don't know who are rooting for you. And I know that God is one of them. Believe it more in a minute. This is the best of the Glenn beck program. And don't forget, rate us on itunes. Here's a question that I want you to ask yourself. If someone in your family got sick tomorrow or there was a medication shortage or a natural disaster and it kept you from getting a doctor for a few days, what do you actually have that you need? These are real possibilities. Now, that's just one of the reasons I like jace. They don't just tell you to be prepared. They give you a practical way to do it. Their jace case puts emergency antibiotics and common medications in your home before you ever need them. 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[B]

the Best of the Glenn Beck Program.

[A]

There are two organizations that I think are the major thought leaders in Washington right now that have done more than any other group out there. There's two of them and I put one of those is the center for Renewing America. And I would include Citizens for Renewing America as well. The executive director for both of those who has been longtime supporter and working at the side of Russ Vogt, who I love. He's our OMB director. He is the executive director of both of those, the center and the Citizens for Redoing America. He's just written an essay, if you will, or a white paper on the red Green Alliance. I read it the other day and I think it is so important that you hear it because what I put on a chalkboard now is proven to be true by people who are much smarter than I am. And Wade is one of those people. Wade, welcome to the program. Glad to have you.

[B]

Thanks for having me on. And a lot of your work over the years has bled into what went into that white paper. You did talk about this long before anyone else did. So thank you for that.

[A]

You're welcome. You know, I'm just glad that it has a name now, the Red for the Communists, the Green for the Islamist. And you know, if I would have known history, especially of 1920, 1979, I would have had an answer for that. And now we know that because of people like you. Tell me, tell me what this alliance is and why it is so dangerous even for the people who are in it.

[B]

So it's, you know, and the paper goes into much more detail, of course, but it's essentially a fusion of the Marxist left and the Islamist movement, the, you know, doctrinal Islam as, as I would really define it. And so these two forces, yes, and these two forces basically have every single barrier and every single goal shy of their end state. Desire is virtually the same. So there is a political convenience to them both aligning and working together because it requires the toppling of Western civilization, of capitalism, etc. Now, of course, at the end of this, what the, the MAR never really quite figure out is that once they've achieved their goals, the Islamists kill them, they, they execute them, they, they get them out of the way. So it's not a durable alliance. It's a short term means to an end. And I think that at the end of the day the Islamists are playing the Marxists. And you see this manifesting itself, itself in the form of Mamdani, who's kind of both, he's a Marxist and an Islamist. But you see people out there like Hassan Piker and other Islamists out there who are saying a lot of things. And I think that fundamentally the mistake we made, and some of it's understandable at the turn of the century, which is weird to say, but at the turn of the century the focus was on Islamic terrorism. And when the focus is on Islamic terrorism, that's 3 to 5% of the population.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so then therefore the other 95 becomes victims and they become asylum seekers, they become refugees, they're displaced, they go sent to Europe, they get sent to the United States. And so now, now in the last 20 years, almost incomprehensibly, we have a large population of Islamists. And, and, and the problem is, is that Islam is radicalized culturally. It does not align with classical liberalism. It's a conquering ideology. It seeks to displace our system and replace it with Sharia and its own religious political ideology. And so, you know, that form of radicalism looks different if they're not a terrorist per se. So for, for instance, you know, if you believe that if you leave the religion of Islam that you should be tried in a court, you know, you get due process, you get a lawyer, but you should be found guilty and the sentence for that should be death. You don't belong in America. You never should have been allowed in America in the first place. And so we have this radicalized cultural Islamist movement that is in league with the Marxist left. And of course now we're seeing all of these DSA candidates pop out of the woodwork for the left and they're winning elections for in Democrat primaries. And so we're seeing a surge of this entire movement.

[A]

So yesterday Congress or the Senate held a hearing on the influence of the Muslim Brotherhood, which is a nasty green organization, the influence of the Muslim Brotherhood and the dsa. Not a single Democrat showed up for that hearing. That should tell you something, shouldn't it?

[B]

Yeah, absolutely. And the unwillingness, frankly even of our side in many respects to admit that the problem is much bigger than 3 to 5% or even acknowledge that there's a problem, even if it's just 3 to 5%, which is way more than that. The left won't even acknowledge the three to five and try to address that through public policy and national security means they ignore it. They'll call you a bigot for highlighting it. But the problem is that the radicalism is way more than that. And it could be 80% of the population that's just not suitable. But our side is politically unwilling to admit that. And I understand that, you know, the average person is not yet quite willing to say that it could be 80% of the population that's radicalized that has been coming over in recent decades. But first you have to admit you have a problem, and then you can start talking about the solutions. And the White Paper we wrote was just admitting we have a problem. What comes after that is we need to start working with our allies on Capitol Hill and state legislatures to figure out what is the policy solution to this. And the, the problem we're going to run into, Glenn, is that a lot of people on our side will say, well, the First Amendment and free speech, and you know, well, the answer to a conquering ideology in our domestic space cannot be that we have no recourse and that we just have to allow it to happen. I'm also not saying that we should violate the First Amendment or religious liberty, but I think that we have to figure out how do we treat Islam as a political ideology, unlike Sikhs, Judaism, Christianity, etc.

[A]

To me, this is really easy. It is not simply a religion. If you want to practice your religion, that's fine, but if your religion teaches that the Constitution must be replaced, now it is a political organization. You're now saying it's a system of governance. I'm sorry, but that's incompatible. I mean, you say in your brief Red Green alliance is an existential threat to the republic, uniting neo Marxists and radical Islamists around the shared goal of destroying America's constitutional order, capitalism, and Western Christian tradition. How can we continue to let people serve if that's their goal, when they are standing there taking an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. If their goal is to overthrow the Constitution, I agree.

[B]

And I've publicly said that. I think that these DSA candidates who are specifically saying that we should refuse to seat them, that's fundamentally different than aoc, who we just disagree with and we think that she's wrong on virtually everything. But even AOC is Careful not to say that we should overthrow the Constitution generally. I mean, if we dig deep, maybe we can find that. But these new candidates, they just proudly proclaim it all over the place. And I think that Congress should just refuse to seat them if they do in fact end up winning their primaries. We have to draw a line in the sand somewhere. And I think that it is a relatively easy line to draw to say if you're overtly arguing to destroy Western civilization, the Constitution, you cannot take a place on the floor and vote on legislation affecting Americans.

[A]

So I found good news in El Sayed's victory because it was predicted to be just a wild, you know, wildfire is going to just. And it wasn't. It was within, I think 14,000 points in the end when they stopped counting. So I find some good news that maybe the Democrats are not all sold on this. And if you look at the numbers, it's all intellectuals and white rich people that voted for Al Sayed, you know, along with the Muslims, the working class, they didn't vote for that. So are you seeing signs of hope on this that maybe Democrats are going to wake up to this?

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I think that if you're a left Hispanic family Christian, you see this, you're horrified. I think that if you are a left black family Christian, you're horrified by this. And I think that ultimately at the end of the day, those families are going to increasingly vote their interests and they may not vote for Republicans, but I think they're going to choose rational, more rational and moderate Democrat voices. I mean, even James Carville is kind of apoplectic at what's happening to his party right now. And Elon's been saying this for years now, that the Overton window is just moving so far to the left that what used to be a centrist is now considered radical right. And I think that that's playing out in, in politics as we see it. But you know, we can't rest on our laurels that their own radicalism will just self destruct itself and that we can just wait. I think that we have to proactively go out there and make the argument against it.

[A]

Okay, so I want to talk to you about, I mean you said, and we're not going to have time to go into it. Let me just say you say that there is a three headed hydra, the enablers, which are the influencers in the media, the legitimizers, intellectuals and institutions and the backers, the financial networks. So you get into in your paper how we can dismantle or kill this three headed hydra. I want to get into that more in just a moment.

[B]

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I'm doing great. I hope that you and your family have a. Have a good trip. But I would love at some point if we could get you courtside seats to see the Nashville Balls, the most inclusive team in the history. In the history.

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I would be glad to sit on the courtside for that. I would be very happy to do that.

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Yeah, look, I'm calling the bluff here. If you're wondering, if you're out there and you haven't heard some of the news since Sophie Cunningham, player for the Indiana Fever, came out and said men should not be able to play in women's sports, which is not a particularly radical proposition. There has been a lot of talk and many different WNBA coaches. Glenn actually came out and they said what we think men should identify, should be able to identify as women and play in this league. And as a staunch supporter of inclusion, diversity, equity as well, I said, well, what is the best thing that I could do to follow the logic of this? To me, it is to have an all trans team, Nashville Balls expansion franchise in the wnba. We will be the first all male identifying as women team. We are very pro trans, incredibly inclusive. Our slogan, you'll like this Glenn is one love, one love, two balls. And our, our very understated as you were showing it a little bit earlier on video, but people haven't seen it. Logo is a basketball hoop with two different balls going through the net. And look, I, I just think it'd be the greatest dynasty of all time. Move over John Wooden's UCLA Bruins. Move over Bill Russell, Michael Jordan. We've got something for you. We would be not only, I think the greatest professional sports franchise of all time. I don't think we will lose a game. Some games we might win without giving up a basket, which is unheard of.

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Basketball wasn't there. Wasn't there like a kids team that played against the WNBA or a female team?

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It was that story. Yeah. The story is the US Women's soccer team which won one the World cup, the best soccer team in the world. They lost five to two, Glenn, to a team of under 15 year old boys in Dallas, Texas. Not the best 15 year old boys in the country. And remember, under 15 means a lot of those kids are 14. They lost five, two to the best soccer players in Texas. And so all of this kind of comes together and look, I just think sometimes you have to, and this is my natural state here, Glenn is sometimes you have to follow absurdity with more absurdity and actually call these people on the logic that underpins what they would suggest. And so if you're going to argue that a man can identify as a woman and play in the wnba, which is the Women's National Basketball association, then I think we should just have a whole team of trans guys. By the way, this is happening in France. It's happening in France.

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I got to tell you, if they would take you up on this. I know, I know you're making a point, but you're also probably very serious as well. You put $10 million up. I would join you in this venture if they would do it because they would win every time. They would win every single game every time.

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And they wouldn't, the games wouldn't be remotely close. And look, ultimately, what, why will they, why will they not just say, hey, the WNBA is only for women, right? To their credit, the WTA has finally say it. The Women Tennis association. They have said it in the, they've said it in the Olympics, they've said it in the NCAA thanks to President Trump. It's because they are committed so much to the left wing idea that the trans agenda can create women out of men that they are not willing to say a basic biological truth. And if you're not willing to do that, then I think the natural result should follow, which is men who identify as women should be able to compete in the women's professional sports league. And I think, Glenn, they would obliterate all of the, all of the women in this sport. I don't think it would be remotely close. I think you could go all the way down by the way, as soon as you get testosterone, as you well know, as everybody out there who's ever raised a boy knows, it changes the game substantially. Heck, if you've ever coached, if you got a, you got a kid in 13 you that already has a mustache, I mean he's going to be a lot better than most of the other 13 year olds. And so I think you can get an eighth grade boys team that would beat the best WNBA team, a team at WNBA All Stars. I don't even think some of those games would be remotely close.

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So can I ask you, I've not been able to figure out why Caitlin Clark is not supporting Sophie Cunningham. Why, why has that not been a dynamic duo here?

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I so I, I'll defend Caitlin Clark in this way. Glenn, you and I and most of your listeners out there, we grew up and watched and loved sports in the 80s and the 90s. What I would call the Jordan era of basketball. Jordan's most famous quote in my mind, I wrote a book with this title is Republicans Buy Sneakers Too. And I think Michael Jordan's perspective, and it was followed by Tiger woods in golf and it was followed by Kobe Bryant, Shaquille o', Neal, a lot of other big time athletes was I'm not going to get involved in politics. I want everybody, Republicans, Democrats, independents, to be able to be fans of my brand. Republicans Buy Sneakers Too. I think Caitlin Clark is rejecting in many ways the LeBron era, which is you need to know everything that I think about politics, which has, I think made him incredibly polarizing. And instead she's trying to go back to the Jordan, Tiger woods era of appealing to everyone. And Glenn, the example of this I would give is she was asked who she was going to vote for in the 2024 presidential election, Kamala or Trump. And she said she didn't want to answer. She didn't think it was her business to tell people what her politics were. And so I think what has actually happened here is the WNBA has put a lot of coaches and players in tough spots who may well agree with us on the absurdity of this premise. All they have to do, and she said this basically in her Answer is, that's a question for the league. And the league, the commissioner should, if they had any backbone at all, come out and just say, hey, this is a league for women. If you are born male, you can pursue life to the furthest of your happiness as you desire. You cannot become a women's basketball player. They haven't said it. They won't say it, I think, because the league itself is committed to identity politics. But I do think that that is. That is the reason why she has avoided joining Sophie Cunningham on her side.

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That makes total sense. Total sense. I just feel like, you know, Caitlin's been, you know, just pounded in the head for so long and. And you would think when you'd see somebody else being pounded in the head, it would just be your instinct to go say, hey, knock it off. I don't have to agree, but knock it off. This isn't right.

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Yeah, I agree. And the argument you can also make is that this goes to the very essence of sport itself. And look, I don't know how many far left wingers, to be fair, are Caitlin Clark fans, right? Maybe there are some. I think her base, if I were sitting down and talking with her, I would say, look, your base is Trump America, whether you like it or not. And also a lot of other sane people, because remember, Glenn, this is an 8020 issue nationwide. I actually think it's a 95. 5 issue for sports fans. I think the 5% who are looney Bend members get a lot of attention. But I think for men, like, nobody makes this argument, right? There isn't a dad in America listening to you right now who thinks that a grown man should be able to compete against his daughter or his granddaughter, right? Like, that's just lunacy. And so I think that's Caitlin Clark's base. Are there some left wingers who are also Caitlin Clark fans? Maybe, but I actually don't. If I were advising her, I understand the perspective of I'm just going to avoid all politics because if you answer this, next thing you know, people are asking you what you think about every. Every issue. But I think her base is actually would overwhelmingly support her if she said, yeah, this is only for women.

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One more thing, because I know you got to go get ready for the show because you're on here and right after my show and premiere. But what do you think of the. The coaches that are now saying that, you know, men are going to start coming and taking their jobs and men shouldn't be coaches for the wnba and yet, well, simultaneously, I mean, that's insanity.

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Yes.

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Well, I mean, I think what it goes to is you ultimately paint yourself into a corner if you follow full left wing ideals. Right? Because I mean, you can take it outside of this gender ridiculousness. You know, if I said to you right now, Glenn, I have an important, important announcement to make. I am now a black woman on the left, they would have to say, welcome to womanhood. Clay Travis, we are excited to have you. Your beard makes you look even more feminine than we thought you ever might. They would then say that I am a racist, culturally appropriating for saying that I'm black. So I think for, I mean, again, this is what their logic is, right? So I think for most people out there, if you said, what is more defining of you, your gender or your race, people find out they're different race than they thought they were all the time. With the DNA testing going on right now, nobody ever finds out, like, I think I have a lot. But personally, I bet you would sign on with this too. I think men, you know, I have a lot more in common with black, Asian and Hispanic men, I think, than I do with white women. Because gender to me is more of a definite defining characteristics than race is. Right. Doesn't mean you can't have a lot in common with a lot of different people of all different backgrounds. But if you were going to say which is a bigger deal to change your gender or your race, I think most people would have to say your gender. Right. I mean, that's far more transformative than your race. Yet in the left, if you change your race, you're racist and you're assimilating and you have to be canceled. But if you change your gender, you're a hero and it must be immediately affirmed.

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Yeah. Is everybody hearing his white privilege there? Yeah, I think I heard it. I think I heard it. Clay, it's good to talk to you, my man. Thank you so much.

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Hey, appreciate it. Keep up the good work, Glenn. Have a good trip with your family and stay safe.

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God bless. Say hi to Buck for me. Clay Travis, Outkick founder and also co host, co host of the Clay and Buck show that is on the Premiere Radio Network immediately following this one. By the way, if you did not hear the show yesterday, the after show, it is now on demand. It is something that I believe I'm not doing it on the regular show. I'm going to do it in bits and pieces because it is, it is something that requires a little bit of thinking. It requires real deep thought and explanation on it. But it's what happens when the past disappears. And I show you that this has been done before in history and it is stunning. It is stunning what was said in 600 that's being said today. Exact same thing, just different tools. And I want you to listen to that. Become a Torch member now at glennbeck.com torch join us. You get all of the education, all of the podcast and episode 17 of the American Story is available right now, this weekend wherever you get your podcast.

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