B (3:36)

How are you, Glenn?

C (3:39)

God is indeed good. I have to say, as a fighter pilot, I've had goosebumps for the last 24 hours just watching the details of this mission unfold. I watched the President's press conference, obviously yesterday, and I think you're right and very astute in saying how the President reacted. It was just all about our ground forces and our air forces, and I'm amazed. I think we're going to walk through this step by step. But overall, I just think it's an incredible testament to the American fighting men and women and what we've been able to accomplish in training and in war.

A (4:11)

And it's a testimony to when a politician just lets the experts, picks the right experts to lead and then lets them do what they can do and just unleash, just go get the guy, bring him back. It's amazing what they can accomplish. Amazing as I was as impressed with this, almost as impressed with sending somebody to the moon last week.

C (4:42)

It's not just this mission. It's pretty much everything the military has done under this current administration, Operation Midnight Hammer, what we did in Venezuela, I mean, the level of execution, we went into Venezuela and came out without a single loss of life. And so what you just said, Glenn, is totally right. When you have a commanding control structure that, that moves authority down to the low levels, which is where it should be, down to the warfighter level. You have unbelievable execution. It's a real change of pace from what we've seen in the past.

A (5:11)

Okay, so, Ed, let's start at the beginning. First, I have to ask you, have you ever had to eject out of a fighter?

C (5:18)

No. And thank God. God is good. So the last it is literally like the worst case scenario. I mean what dude, four four Bravo experience over the last three days is the worst. I mean it's like coming out of the airplane, having to survive. I know we're going to walk through all the step by step, but I've never ejected, thank God. Like I have a roommate who ejected, went out of control, completely out of control in F18 ejected was recovered safely over the sands of Yuma, Arizona. And he, Glenn, he was an inch and a half smaller, like literally smaller. His spine had compressed so much that he was smaller. So it's not, it's not a good deal.

A (5:54)

Okay, so they're flying and we don't know how they were shot down. We, I thought we had taken care of all of their, you know, their rockets and everything else. Do we know how they were shot down?

C (6:09)

So what did the Iranians use as to the weapon? But what I can tell you. So I was in a, I was flying in Iraq. We had ultimate air superiority in Iraq when I was there in 2004, 2005. That didn't mean we weren't occasionally getting shot at by surface to air systems. So when we go in to fight a big war like we came in into Iran, what fighter pilots will do and what the military planners will do is called rolling back the IADs. That's the integrated air defense system. You start with the big systems. We're talking about systems that can shoot 100, 150 miles out. You start with the communication nodes and really what you're left with, and you're pretty much left with this for the remainder of the war, are individuals carrying shoulder launched surface to air, infrared guided surface, surface to air systems. So there's no radar signature, there's no electronic signature that we can target and small arms and aaa for the most part, our tactics keep us above what's called the WES, the weapons engagement envelope of those systems. So flying 20,000ft and above or 25,000ft and above, typically you're outside of that zone. My suspicion is that these F15Es, which are strike aircraft, they're air to ground aircraft, were probably flying low enough to look for targets. In other words, they were trying to get eyeballs on maybe a moving target, maybe something that they were trying to find on the ground so that they could direct air on top of that. And while they were doing that, they took fire from this infrared surface to air system. I'll bet you probably 95 to 99% that it was an infrared guided system like press and SA18 that was either Iranian or provided potentially by the Russians.

A (7:45)

So they're hit, Alpha is fine, rescued pretty much right away. And, and how is it that Bravo was so far away? What was he like? Like 40 miles or some crazy distance from the, from the other pilot. How did he get so far away?

C (8:05)

Yeah, I mean, so you have an airplane, so I mean kind of walk through the, the sequence of what would have happened. So they're flying their mission. Both of them are probably looking out the cockpit in one direction or another. Typically one pilot or the wingman will take pick up an air to ground signature of a launch. Typically you'll see the smoke or the corkscrewing smoke that comes out of the ground and then you begin evasive maneuvers. Typically for this kind of system you would be putting out chaff and flares that's designed to defeat the infrared seeker. In this case, obviously it wasn't defeated or it was, but it just got close enough to where the blast radius of the weapon was enough to disable the airplane. And then at that point you begin an ejection sequence. Still TBD as far as like how quickly they had to eject. It sounds like he sustained injuries on ejection and usually that's a sign that they're at pretty high speed. If you have an aircraft that's disabled and you can slow it down, you, you are a lot more survivable in an ejection. But for example, if your airplane's spinning or if it's going at a high rate of speed, if you pull the handle, you're going to hit the windstream at 400 to 500 miles an hour, which is like getting hit by a plane. And to put it into context, the moment you pull the handle, 20 GS erupt underneath your bottom. That's enough by the way, to kill if it's sustained. So that's 20 times your body weight. So like if you're a 200 pound person, you're now 4,000 pounds. If I just did, if I just did the math right, so you're like getting rocketed out of this thing as quickly as possible and there's injuries sustained just from the G forces. I'm talking about just in training, when people go through ejection sequences, they can get injured in that way. But now you're in the windstream and you're going 400, 500 miles an hour, sometimes faster, and all of a sudden you're hitting this wind. And a lot of times what happens to guys is they break arms or legs because Their arms literally flail out into the wind. And so they train us as pilots to pull our arms and legs and define an ejection position. And so this pilot, it said that he had 44 Bravo, had back injuries. I would imagine those injuries were sustained either from the ejection itself, which is probably the most likely, or from the parachute landing, because, remember, now that you've sustained 20 GS, now that you're in the windstream, you're in a parachute. You know, the pilots, we always say it's. It's better to be swinging in the sheets than singing with the angels. You're better off, you know, in a parachute than you are in an airplane that's about to crash. But as you're on your way to the ground, then you have to land, and you're coming down pretty fast. And so the injuries were either sustained on the ejection or on the landing, and then you have to escape. I'm not sure how they got so far apart, but it is common for the pilot and the backseater, named the wizzo, to be some distance apart. Because the ejection sequence, not only does it send them in at different times, there's a little bit of a delay between the back seat and the front seat so that they'll separate from each other. But often one will go right, one will go left, and then by the time you hit the airstream and then maneuver your canopy, you could be miles apart.

A (10:58)

So when you eject, there's got to be an automatic system that sends a beacon out to the military. It says, hey, we got a plane down, and here's where each pilot is, or do you have to activate that yourself?

C (11:10)

So, okay, so the airplane itself has a beacon. So what happens the moment you eject is both seats come out, both pilots head in one direction or the other, and then the aircraft itself ejects. Like, you know, when we talk about the black box in a. In a civilian aircraft, yeah, the aircraft itself ejects its memory system. And so there's literally like a box that comes flying off the airplane that carries with it the memory of essentially the last day of flying. So that investigators, once they find that, can do their investigation and find out what went wrong with the airplane. That box itself also carries an emergency beacon along with it. And so the rescuers can find that piece of the aircraft, but the pilots themselves aren't broadcasting a beacon, and that is obviously for their safety purposes. It's designed so that the pilot has a choice whether they can turn their radio on. And off. The survival gear that a pilot will have is typically a survival vest that has like minimal food, some chewing gum. For real, there's literally chewing gum in there, a little tiny bottle of water. Each pilot will have a radio that's essentially a satellite radio designed to connect with the, with the Cesar forces and then they'll have a sidearm. So when I was in combat in Iraq, I carried a nine millimeter pistol which just, you know, is like completely worthless unless it's like you and one other person. That 15 Round magazine is not going to get you anywhere in combat. It's probably last resort. And truthfully, you're about to die if you're going to use your pistol. And so you're armed with all of

A (12:39)

it, especially a 9 millimeter.

C (12:41)

Yeah, 9 mil. I mean some of the guys, by the way, since you know, I was a marine, a lot of the guys carry.45, you know, because of the much more stopping power. But like, anyway, so the military gives you a Beretta, this, this small Italian made weapon and you carry it thinking, I'm never going to shoot anybody with these small Italian 9 millimeter rounds. You know what, you carry it anyway. And so yeah, so the pilots, it's up to him whether he's going to turn his radio on on or not. And typically what will happen is you hit the ground, you release your parachute, that's really important because otherwise it'll literally drag you across the ground. You secure any gear that you have so you don't like leave anything behind and then you set, you find cover or concealment. Like you're trying to find a place where you can hide before you bring out your radio. Because the moment you start broadcasting, especially depending on the gear that you're using, there's forces that can triangulate in on your position. And so obviously you want to be judicious with how you use that radio.

A (13:38)

Wow. So then let me take a break and we'll pick it up. When he is now trying to find some place to hide. I think that's the logical place to go. Trying some place to hide. Hikes up 7,000ft on the side of a mountain and. And puts himself between two rocks and becomes part of the mountain and is almost invisible except somehow or another to the CIA. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. To hear the rest of this interview, check out the full podcast. More coming up. You're at home in the middle of the day, going about normal quiet afternoon when something stops you cold. Not a doorbell, not a knock but the sound of somebody testing your doorknob. And at first you might wait, you know, thinking it as a mistake. And then you hear footsteps moving along the side of the house. Whoever has decided to try to get in is tried to get in another way. And in that moment, everything becomes very, very clear. This isn't some somebody you know at the wrong address. 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He says he is going to go after everything. He's going to go after their power plants, their bridges, etc. Etc. He can't actually do that. I mean, you can go after power plants, but he, he has to have a real legitimate military reason for it. You don't want to hurt the people. And by the way, that would be a really bad thing according to the Geneva Convention. You don't, you just don't take power away and just make the whole country suffer. You have to have legitimate reasons to strike those things. And if they strike, that's what they will be doing. They will be talking about those legitimate reasons on what they struck. And we'll know beginning tonight at 8 o'. Clock. Now, some people say this is Taco Tuesday. Trump always, what is it? Trump always chickens out. Always chickens out. Yeah, I don't think he does. I really don't think he does. I think he makes his statements and usually people move. And last night it looked like maybe they were moving because they came out with this 10 point proposal. But there's Two parts of it that are just unworkable, totally unworkable. The first part of the proposal is a guarantee that Iran would not be attacked again and an end to Israeli strikes against Hezbollah in Lebanon, lifting all of the sanctions as well. Well, that's not going to happen. It's just not going to happen. It's unreasonable to think it would. Then they said they would also lift their blockade of the shipping route through the Strait of Hormuz. However, they added on that they also now get to, you know, have a fee that they would impose per ship of $2 million per ship. No, that's not going to happen either. That's not going to happen. So why, why, why can't that happen? Why can't that happen? I want to give you some history that you, you may know many people in America do not know. Our first foreign war was actually started and finished by Thomas Jefferson. We have to go back in the early 1800s, just after the ink is just barely dry on the Constitution. The United States is young, we are broke. We're trying to figure out, you know, what it means to exist in a world that really doesn't care about all men are created equal. We're completely alone in that idea. And then on the other side of the earth, in the Mediterranean, which nobody had been over to the Mediterranean, I mean, very few had been over the Mediterranean back then. There's a system that had been in place for generations that most Americans didn't even understand. And it was led by the Barbary pirates operating out of Tripoli and Tunis and Algiers and Morocco. But Tripoli played a big, big, big role. This was highly organized, it was state backed. And they would go out as pirates and they would seize ships, they would seize crews, cargo. And if you were lucky, you were held for ransom. If not, you were just disappeared into slavery because they could do whatever they wanted with you because you were an infidel. Europe had been dealing with this system for a very long time, for years, for decades. Europe had paid the toll, it had paid the bribe. And it said, just leave our ships alone. Do whatever you want with the women and children. Just leave our ships alone. That was Britain, France and Spain. They were the main ones. And they had made a quiet agreement to pay an annual tribute. And, you know, they would pay them whatever they wanted. It was just, quote, the cost of doing business. Pay the rulers along the Barbary coast and your merchant ships can move refuse. And your merchant ships are going to be taken. Everything on them is going to be taken. And your people will be taken. So everybody in Europe was like, okay, I got. We got to pay for it because nobody wanted to fight him. Then America shows up. And at first, under George Washington, we did exactly that. We did what everybody else was doing. We paid and we paid a lot. And we have to remember there was no Navy to speak of. We didn't have an appetite to fight another war. We had just gotten out of the war for independence. So the last thing we ought to do is like, hey, let's go fight another war. Kind of like how popular it is right now, okay? So money goes out the door to keep American crews from being dragged off in chains. And it doesn't work, because why, when you are negotiating with terrorists, when you're doing bribery, what happens? You pay. And then they're like, you know what? I think you can pay more. The demands grow. They always do. They demand more money. So at one point, nearly one fifth of our federal revenue is tied up in tribute. Imagine that. That's like. Imagine that. It's slightly less than what California is stealing from us today. 20% of our budget was going to the Barbary pirates, the Islamists over in Tripoli. Just as our country is being born, we are already being taxed 20% by a foreign power that is offering us nothing in return but the promise of, we're going to leave you alone. We'll look the other way until we decide to raise the price. Jefferson gets in and he's like, okay, this is ridiculous. This can't happen. So we have the first foreign war, the Barbary pirates war. Not good. We refuse to pay. The ruler of the Barbary pirates goes to a U.S. consulate and he cuts down the flagpole. The U.S. flagpole. Well, that was a declaration of war. And so we went to war. Now, when we go to war, what does Thomas Jefferson do? He suggests that a copy of the Quran is printed in English. We have an original copy at our. At our library in Dallas. And it. In that Quran, it actually has a warning. It says, look, you have to read this. You have to read this. You have to read it in context. You have to read the whole thing. And you have to remember it because these people are serious. And you're going to. You are not going to believe the. This is. I'm quoting. You're not going to believe the absurdities that a good portion of the world actually believes. Like slavery. You just take people slaves. Now, it's weird because we also agree with slavery at that time, or many people do. So they're looking at the Quran and saying this is what the Barbary pirates believe. This is why we can't negotiate with them. So we are now facing this decision we can't avoid. We have to either keep paying or. Or what? We become Europe, pay it and accept whatever line comes next or we do what Jefferson said. You know, I saw this in Europe and it's not going to work out. Well, he knew that the tribute doesn't buy peace, it buys time. And listen to this. It buys time in what always happens when the clock is running, the time always runs out. So America fights. Not popular, not convenient. It feels exactly like it feels today. Our navy however, is really small. The distance is like to the other side of the moon. Supply lines are almost non existent. The guarantee is or the outcome is not guaranteed. This is where we get from the Marines. Leather necks. They actually put leather and tie them on around their necks so they can't be beheaded as they are fighting with the Barbary pirates. Okay, so we go to war. But the alternative is worse, which is a permanent tax paid to people who see you as nothing but prey. You are prey or you are a slave. Or we can kill you. There's a line in the song for the marines to the shores of Tripoli. And every time you sing that song, but nobody really knows, you know,

B (23:57)

it's

A (23:57)

just a song now. But basically what that means is we're done paying. We are not going to pay anymore. Now we fought it didn't end piracy overnight. Didn't fix everything, but it broke the assumption that the only way to survive was to hand over money and hope. Okay, why am I telling you this stupid story? Because for the last few days, as I've seen this negotiation go on, I'm thinking to myself, this is the same pattern. This is exactly the same pattern. You got a narrow stretch of water. The world depends on this. The Strait of Hormuz, it's sitting near that choke, choke point where we get all of our oil. And a regime that is sitting there in Islamist regime exactly like the Barbary pirates know. If we create enough instability we can, we can force people to pay to keep things moving. So deals start forming, keep the passages open. We got to keep the tankers moving. So who leans into this? First, of course. First at the plate. France. And France. They believe France has already negotiated to pay $2 million per ship. That's insanity. Well, energy needs are real and the people don't want war. Okay, Mr. Frenchy. French. Okay, say what you want, but you know, I don't think you've changed since the days when all your men used to paint their faces white and put that black mole on their cheek. You're exactly the same people you were during the Barbary Pirate. But they will buy us time. Buy us time for what? When, when you have one side applying pressure, what do they use that time for? To get stronger and more entrenched. And what do you use it for? Well, we are going to eat cake, we are going to go back to sleep because we think everything is fine. Exactly right. And eventually the bill is going to come due because it always does. So here we are, the United States, in exactly the same position that Thomas Jefferson was in. Whether you want to admit it or not, that's it. Here we are, we're looking at the sea lanes and we're saying to the rest of the world, I don't know about the rest of you, but we ain't paying it. We're not doing it. We're taking on a risk that everyone else in the world is like, no, we will just manage our payments. We will be safer in the short term. There's a cost to that, a huge cost and a cost to what we're doing. Financial, political, human. It's not clean, it's not popular. People are saying this is overreach. Really, to me, it looks like we're carrying the weight once again that others have chosen to set down. But this president is not carrying that weight for France or England. You go ahead, make your own deal. You want your oil, Go get it, go get it. But exactly like our first foreign war with the Barbary pirates, the Islamist Barbary pirates, there comes a time when somebody needs to stand up and say, no, this is an evil system. We are viewed as prey to these people. We are not paying them so they can become stronger. If access to the world's arteries, whether it's the Mediterranean, whether it's the Persian Gulf, doesn't matter. If it all depends on paying these people off, paying people off, Whoever threatens you, then trade is not free. It's conditional. It's taxed by force. And once that becomes normal, it spreads. Back in Jefferson's time, the world was convinced that just how is how everything works. You just pay the Barbary pirates because fighting them is, fighting them is so hard, my little black mole on my really super painted white face might peel off. And so they just lived with it until somebody stepped up and went, now that's a stupid system. Look at the pattern side by side. Really hard to ignore and by the way, let me add this to the pattern. Do you know who is really against foreign wars? Thomas Jefferson. That could be a foreign war. But then he saw the ideology that is exactly the same and the logic that we're fighting today is exactly the same and intact. Pay now, deal with the consequences later, or refuse and pay the consequences immediately when you're strong, not after making them stronger. Neither path is easy. One just hides the cost longer, makes you feel better. Have a croissant. Europe learned or thought I thought they did. Maybe they've forgotten their own history, but they're making the same calculation again. What I find fascinating is I'm going to wildly butcher and paraphrase Jefferson here, but Jefferson, when we ended the Barbary Pirates war, we didn't finish the job, okay? Because we're tired of these foreign wars. So we didn't finish the job. And he gave America some advice. And I'm going to paraphrase him, wildly paraphrase him here, but it seems like the exact advice that we need to hear. Basically he said, hey everybody, we've just fought a foe that sees you as prey. We just fought a foe that will kill you because their God says they can, because you're an infidel. They will take your wives and your children as slaves because they can. They believe these things religiously. This is not just some ideology, this is a, a religious fervor that has been put into a political system. And if we're not careful, if we don't finish this war, they will come back stronger and we will have to fight what may be America's last war. Boy, the parallels here are just worth paying attention to, aren't they? This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. Keith Wilson from Canada, Canadian attorney, to talk a little bit about Albertans and also the gun grab that is going on. Keith, welcome.

B (31:03)

Glenn, thanks for having me on.

A (31:06)

So I would have never guessed that Canada would actually, I don't know, elect a bunch of officials that would say, hey, all those guns that you used to have, we're now going to come and collect them and then actually kind of talk about going door to door. I mean, they don't have the people to do that. How are they going to grab these guns from people?

B (31:31)

I don't know. But it's very frightening, obviously. I mean, the reality is the liberal government in Ottawa has brought in these crazy laws designating otherwise legal hunting rifles, sport shooting rifles, etc. To be prohibited weapons first. They gave us a grace period, as you mentioned, so we were allowed to keep them in our gun safes, but we couldn't take them out. Then they implemented, which just concluded, a buyback, a buyback program where they would give us a little bit of money if we all showed up with our guns. They don't know there's no registry, so they don't know who has the guns. So they wanted us to come forward and turn our guns into police stations. And that was a flop. Only 2% of the people did. So now we're all facing this deadline that if we don't turn in our guns by October 31st of this year, we will all be criminals and we will be charged and jailed for possession of a prohibited weapon. So many things, Glenn, that are happening north of your border are just so difficult to believe, but they're real and there's a lot of trouble up in Canada and that's why so many here in Alberta want to get out and form our own country and get away from this madness.

A (32:52)

So, I mean, 2% of Canadians actually, you know, abided by the deadline and actually said, okay, here's my gun. That's a small number. So you have 98% of those who had guns did nothing about it. I mean, we've seen this movie before. It does not end well. Are the police behind that? I mean, I've heard that this is just a law that they don't really even care about. It's just to appease the voters in Ottawa. Is that true?

B (33:24)

Yeah, it's the voters in Quebec. There's a real radical leftist fringe in the controls effectively or has disproportionate influence over the cabinet and the decision making in Ottawa. But the police chiefs, the police chiefs, associations en masse have come out and said, look, law abiding gun owners are not criminals. They're not the ones committing the crimes. The violent crime that we're seeing in our cities is with illegally illegal handguns and illegally imported guns. The criminals aren't going to say, oh well, I was going to rob you tomorrow, but I guess I have to go turn my gun in, so I won't. It's just, it's nonsensical. And as you know, and we all know, history is consistent when citizens are disarmed. It doesn't cause governments to become more benevolent. History has shown very bad things happen. And so it makes us very concerned up here in Canada. And of course it's happening in a context of all kinds of other madness that I think you have some awareness of.

A (34:35)

I gotta tell you, the mad or the maid thing is terrifying.

B (34:38)

Yeah.

A (34:39)

I mean, it's a culture of death. It is terrifying.

B (34:43)

I'm so glad that you've shined light on it, Glenn, because my wife and I were not that long ago in Miami on business, and we had an Uber driver and she was. Seemed to be awake to things, and we were trying to explain to her what happened. I could tell she didn't believe us. But it's incredible that, that over a hundred thousand people, they're now using it because, you know, the failings of our healthcare system, it's just.

C (35:08)

Yeah, everybody's.

B (35:09)

But it's free. Yeah, but you die on waiting lists, you know, like, yeah, but it's free. No, the system doesn't work. So now they've come up with this workaround where. And there, as you know, it's remarkable if it started off with people with cancer and terminal illness at the end of life. And then they started shifting to people who had various kinds of injuries that might be expensive to treat, like cost. And now they're moving it, as you're aware, into mental health issues. So if you're depressed because you. You can't afford to live in our country because of the inflation and reckless government policies up here, and you're feeling down on life, they're moving into offering government assisted suicide. That is a thing in Canada.

A (36:04)

You know, socialized medicine, you know, worked in the Netherlands for a while. It doesn't work now because you had a very homogeneous kind of society. Everybody was on the same page, very much like Canada for a while. You had a small enough population that it could generally work. But once you started importing people and you just put them into the hospitals, put them into the systems, and there's nobody paying for it, no doctors, no expansion, of course you're not going to have enough medicine. I mean, is there anyone talking common sense like that? I mean, I know you don't have like, for instance, talk radio, et cetera, up there. Is there anyone talking this common sense in Canada?

B (36:47)

There is in our alternative media, but the legacy media, the phenomena we have in Canada, is that the equivalents, all of the equivalents in Canada of a Fox News or a CNN or a New York Times, they all receive substantial, to the tune of many, several hundreds of millions of dollars of government grants. This is a new phenomenon that started about five or eight years ago. And so they're basically all extensions of the government. If I've ever am interviewed and I say something that's really critical of the government, it never gets printed because the editor says to the reporter, yeah, that's true. I might agree with Mr. Wilson. But if we print that, we're going to get a call from Ottawa and we're going to get our funding cut. We're going to have to do more layoffs. So we've lost our freedom of expression up here, at least freedom of the media to have these serious discussions. But people are alive to what's happening and increasingly concerned, at least in the western provinces for sure.

A (37:49)

So what is happening to Alberta? I mean, I just saw that you have the numbers now to force this onto the, Onto the. The vote next fall where you. You could break away as a province and start your own country. Is there enough support in Alberta to actually get that done? B. Do you actually think Canada would allow you to do that? I mean, you are the Texas of Canada.

B (38:19)

We are. And what's unique about. About Canada is it's the only government or country rather, in the western world that has a legal process for a region or a province, in this case, to go through a voting process to become independent and leave the country and form its own, you know, state. And that's. That is unique. And it's a process that set out by the Supreme Court of Canada in a 1998 case. And it lays the process so that if a clear majority of voters within a province vote on a clear question for independence, that triggers two routes to independence. One is the parties have to enter into good faith negotiations, meaning Alberta needs to go into a meeting room with the federal government and the other provinces and say, all right, we've got national parks here, we've got military bases in Alberta. We'll pay you, the federal government, certain amount of money for those bases in national parks. You owe us this much money, federal government for our pension plans and other things and hash it all out, and then the province is independent and it's a free country. The other path is if the parties don't enter into good faith negotiations. And that's something we're very concerned about here in Alberta, is you can do unilateral declaration of independence, however, that relies on international recognition. So if the United States and other countries are prepared to recognize Alberta independence, it creates a clear pathway. And what's remarkable about our government here, Glenn, is you may or may not recall the controversy last September over international recognition of the state of Palestine. Our prime minister, Mark Carney, came out without consulting with our House of Commons or anything, and announced that the government of Canada would unilaterally recognize the independence of the state of Palestine, even though it doesn't have any borders or anything else. So we sat here in Alberta and watched this, and we're going, wait a minute. Our prime minister just renewed and refreshed this international concept and international law of other nation states giving recognition to breakaway states. And we're on a path here in Alberta to follow that route. So.

A (40:41)

Well, I would just. My recommendation to you is hurry before Donald Trump leaves office, because he'd recognize you guys. I don't know if anyone else would, but he would.

B (40:52)

Well, and as he should, because, you know, remember that Alberta, you know, this, this province equivalent in size to Texas, immediately north of your Montana border, we have the third largest reserve of oil in the world, and we are, in fact, the largest supplier of oil to the United States. I know there's a perception by some Americans that you get most of the oil that you bring in from Venezuela and the Middle East. That's just Simply not true. 61% of your imports come from us here, your friends up in Alberta. And it's not just that. With the situation in Iran and the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, there's a thousand ships stuck there. It's not just oil and natural gas on those ships. It's helium that we need for making computer chips in the various countries and importantly, fertilizer. Your farmers in Iowa and the plains are very worried about fertility fertilizer. Well, here's your neighbor to the north, Alberta, that wants to become independent, wants to become your best friend, and guess what else? We're that supplier of fertilizer. So what I'm hopeful is we now have a date set, Glenn, for the actual vote on independence. And it's going to be October 19th. October 19th. Interesting. Think about this. What did we first start talking about? The October 31 deadline for the gun grab.

C (42:20)

So October is going to be a

B (42:21)

busy month up here. So on October 19, Albertans might be voting and hopefully will be voting to become an independent country. And the United States will be getting a new neighbor, your best friend. And we're culturally aligned. We have shared values. We have far more shared values from Alberta with the United States and Americans than we do with these leftists in Ottawa. We're so done with them with all of their harmful policies. Glenn, we have the third largest reserve of oil and gas in the world. The world needs our products. But these guys in Ottawa, they're all these climate cult, the climate cartel crew.

A (43:03)

I know.

B (43:03)

And we have net zero policies. We have carbon taxes, we have laws that prevent us from putting pipelines in and developing our resources.

A (43:15)

I tell you, Keith, I wish you all the luck in the world. I think what Alberta is doing is extraordinarily brave. I've been watching made, I've been watching the gun grab, and I've been watching this carefully, and I think this is a. A real hope for the Western world. If you guys can pull that off, that is, I think, very, very good for the health of the Western world. Thank you so much, Keith. We'll talk again. Stay safe.

B (43:44)

Thank you.

C (43:44)

You bet.

B (43:45)

Thank you.

A (43:50)

You're.