Best of the Program | Guests: Eva Vlaardingerbroek & Liz Truss | 5/14/26

Summary

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The Glenn Beck Program: Best of the Program

Guests: Eva Vlaardingerbroek & Liz Truss
Date: May 14, 2026

Overview

This episode of The Glenn Beck Program delves into the erosion of trust in Western institutions, the dangers of government censorship, and the collapse of national identity amid political and social upheaval in the U.S. and U.K. Host Glenn Beck is joined by former U.K. Prime Minister Liz Truss and Dutch commentator Eva Vlaardingerbroek. Together, they discuss the decay of civil liberties in Britain and Europe, the weaponization of bureaucracy, and the globalist agenda’s impact on democracy, with a special focus on free speech and populist backlash.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Collapse of Institutional Trust & the COVID Legacy

• Glenn Beck begins by dissecting recent revelations involving Anthony Fauci, the CIA, and missing government files that have deepened public distrust.

  • The testimony of a CIA employee suggests Fauci influenced the CIA to downplay the COVID-19 lab-leak theory, fueling conspiracy and frustration.
  • The missing JFK and MK Ultra files widen the web of distrust.
  • Glenn warns: The oscillation between accusations and denials makes truth seem unattainable and erodes collective reasoning.
  • Quote:

    “Once every institution sounds like a rival propaganda army, we can’t reason together... this is the most dangerous place a free people can arrive.” (A, 04:36)

• Glenn’s Four Principles for Society in Crisis:

  1. Government Must Not Lie in Crisis:
     • Truth is necessary, even if inconvenient or frightening; lying for “noble reasons” undermines self-government.
     • Quote:

       “In a free society the government must never, ever knowingly mislead the public during a crisis.” (A, 08:00)

  2. Open Scientific Debate:
     • Censorship and professional retaliation against dissenters during COVID stifled truth; true science welcomes questioning.
     • Quote:

       “Serious credentialed experts were, at best, dismissed... only for asking questions that later became mainstream discussions. That should terrify everybody.” (A, 09:18)

  3. Limits of Intelligence Agencies:
     • Intelligence bodies like the CIA and FBI should not shape domestic narratives.
     • Quote:

       “Once these agencies begin acting like guardians of acceptable reality... history is full of governments that convince themselves they’re just protecting democracy as they strangle it to death.” (A, 10:40)

  4. Disciplined Skepticism:
     • Paranoia and tribal distrust are as corrosive as blind faith; society can’t survive on extremes.
     • Quote:

       “You can't build a healthy society on blind trust or no trust. You can’t build one on blind suspicion either.” (A, 11:34)

• On Truth and Identity Politics:

  • Modern societies reject being proven wrong, valuing tribal loyalty over pursuit of truth.
  • The Founding Fathers understood human flaws, hence created systems for transparency and checks rather than trust in rulers.
  • Quote:

    “No institution should become so powerful that questioning it becomes dangerous. No citizen should become so tribal that the truth itself no longer matters.” (A, 13:45)

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2. Britain in Decline: Liz Truss Conversation

[15:55 – 28:18]

• Liz Truss gives a grim update on the U.K.:

  • Public finance, debt, and the bond market are nearing crisis levels.
  • Industrial decline, broken public services, and unchecked crime—in particular, the “grooming gangs” scandal (referring to organized sexual exploitation)—are examples of government inaction.
  • Quote:

    “We are very, very close to the edge.” (B, 16:11)

• London vs. The Rest of the Country:

  • Glenn observes that central London seems prosperous but that this is an illusion; hardships exist outside the elite “bubble.”
  • Truss confirms the prosperity is localized to government, media, and finance, while ordinary areas are in crisis.

• The Class and Political Divide:

  • Elites are shielded from the suffering that has led voters in places like Rotherham and Doncaster to back “Reform.”
  • Economic stagnation:

    “In the year 2000, the average Brit was about as well off as the average American. [...] We are now poorer than Mississippi.” (B, 18:10)

• Suppression of Speech and Civil Liberties:

  • Truss highlights the criminalization of dissent, hate crime laws, and the lack of a First Amendment equivalent.
  • Recent government actions to exclude or jail speakers critical of the establishment demonstrate escalating censorship.
  • Example:

    “Lucy Conley was jailed for a tweet... 31 months.” (B, 21:44)

  • Police surveillance:
    • Facial recognition and heavy police deployment at right-leaning rallies, contrasted with leniency for pro-Palestinian demonstrations.
    • Infiltration of institutions by ideologues:

      “The Chief Constable... had to retire because he was found fabricating evidence at the behest of local Islamists.” (B, 23:55)

• Destruction from Within:

  • Truss attributes the malaise to a coalition of “Islamic Communists,” Marxists, and far-left ideologues intent on eroding patriotism, the family, and economic freedom, paralleling Iran’s 1979 revolution.
  • Quote:

    “What they are about is destructionism. They’re about destroying the things they hate.” (B, 26:52)

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3. The Great Reset and Identity Politics: Eva Vlaardingerbroek

[29:27 – 41:33]

• Eva Vlaardingerbroek describes the persecution faced by dissidents in Europe:

  • Speaking for Dutch farmers and criticizing mass immigration and globalist policies has led to her being branded as a “Nazi” and banned from the UK.
  • On being silenced:

    “If you go against [the mainstream narrative]... you get smeared, you get prosecuted, you get banned from countries now.” (C, 30:32)

• Free Speech Under Attack:

  • Eva’s UK visa revoked, likely due to a tweet calling out UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer. She suspects covert surveillance and broad collusion to suppress nationalist voices, especially on issues like immigration and national pride.
  • Quote:

    “I made a plea for remigration and I attacked Keir Starmer... But that's not illegal in a free Western liberal democracy, is it?” (C, 32:04)

• Erosion of National Identity:

  • The disempowerment of “native populations” is viewed as deliberate—designed to weaken resistance to elite or globalist agendas.
  • Quote:

    “If you manage to completely suppress any sense of identity and national pride in your own people, you weaken them.” (C, 35:28)

• Two-Tier Justice & Loss of Sovereignty:

  • UK citizens jailed for speech; illegal immigrants (who refuse to assimilate) allowed in without scrutiny.
  • The imbalance is attributed directly to Keir Starmer but is described as part of the broader “Great Reset,” with supranational powers (EU, globalists) overriding national interests and democracy.
  • Quote:

    “It’s not just Keir Starmer. The United Kingdom left the European Union. We are still stuck with the European Union looming over our heads, restricting our speech, deciding what happens to our borders, eroding our national identities.” (C, 39:49)

• On Western Survival:

  • Glenn asks if Western civilization can survive. Eva is hopeful but recognizes the fight is existential.
  • Quote:

    “It has to [survive]. And you know, you, myself, and I think many other people are willing to dedicate their lives to fighting for it at least. And that's the most important thing.” (C, 41:19)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the death of critical thought:

  “Reality usually is complicated enough and fair enough to humiliate everybody to some degree or another.” (A, 07:30)

• On tribalism:

  “No citizen should become so tribal that the truth itself no longer matters.” (A, 13:45)

• On government suppression (Truss):

  “Keir Starmer has blamed all of the country’s problems on the far right... He’s blamed anybody apart from the terrible policies which is what has brought our country to its knees.” (B, 19:52)

• On the UK criminal justice system (Eva):

  “The only crime that I've committed is speaking my mind. And he bans me from entering the country for a day, yet allows hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants to come in...” (C, 38:25)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Topic | |-----------|-------| | 02:24 | Introduction to CIA, Fauci, and missing files saga | | 04:36 | Glenn on collapse of trust and its dangers | | 08:00 | “The Principles” segment: government, science, intelligence, skepticism | | 13:45 | The real crisis: tribalism over truth | | 15:56 | Interview with Liz Truss begins | | 18:10 | Truss: UK now “poorer than Mississippi”; economic stagnation | | 21:44 | Truss: criminalization of speech, police bias, institutional infiltration | | 26:25 | “End goal” of the left and destruction from within | | 29:27 | Interview with Eva Vlaardingerbroek begins | | 32:04 | Eva explains her UK ban, suppression of free speech | | 35:28 | Eva on destruction of national identity and pride | | 38:25 | Two-tier justice in UK; crime is “speaking my mind” | | 41:16 | Does Western civilization survive? |

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Conclusion

This episode is a passionate and, at times, urgent lament for Western liberalism’s decline amid government overreach, censorship, and social fragmentation. Both Glenn Beck and his guests argue that reclaiming truth, restoring open debate, and defending civil liberties are vital to Western survival. Their exchanges stress the importance of humility, principled skepticism, and defending national identity against both bureaucratic chokeholds and globalist agendas.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

You're listening to the Best of the Glenn Beck Program.

[A]

Okay, so listen, CIA employee is testifying, and this is a really big deal. Okay, Foushee, wait a minute. We have proof now, and we have somebody verifying Foushee influenced the CIA intelligence report and, and said, you know, downplay the virus thing came from a lab in China. Why would he do that? That verifies absolutely everything we've already know. This is a really big deal. Then we start talking about missing files and conflicting testimony and the experts who have reversed themselves and the agencies who suddenly can't find documents that apparently existed yesterday and who moved them from the office and the leaked emails and the intelligence briefings and the accusations and the counter accusations. The media cycles that are going to burn white hot and then vanish in two or three days like none of this ever happened. And we won't get to the bottom of COVID Twenty minutes into this thing yesterday, this expert talking about Fauci brings something else up that is important in and of itself. Okay, Missing JFK files and missing MK Ultra files. Wait a minute. What? And they were in whose office? And who went it? Was that a raid? Not a raid. And everything is lost. Everything is lost. And this is why I think, this is why I feel this way. I think the average person sits in their kitchen or their truck every day listening to shows like this, and they just are like, I don't even care anymore. I don't even know why I listen to this stuff. Why do I pay attention? I mean, I don't even know who to believe. I don't know what's true, what's not. This is the most dangerous place a free people can arrive. Because once there's a collapse in trust completely. Once it's completely gone, once every institution sounds like a rival propaganda army, we can't reason together. And look at us, we can barely reason. We can't reason our way out of a wet paper bag right now. Let's look at these stories. Boxes of CIA related files reportedly discovered questions again about what intelligence agencies knew, when they knew it, who handled the investigations, the origin of the investigations, who helped shape the narrative publicly versus privately. And at the same time, renewed scrutiny around Anthony Fauci. His testimony, internal communications, gain of function, debates, funding questions, the attempt to define terms after the fact. The guy calls himself science himself. And whether the American people and the people of the world were given the truth during one of the largest societal disruptions in history. Well, we can't have any of that out. We can't have any of that out. So what do we do? Turn on the machine. We got to just turn on the machine. Get somebody to scream, cover up and. Because then the other side will scream conspiracy theory. And then cable News will pick teams. Let me guess. The MSNBC will be for the left and. And Fox will be for the right. And God only knows what CNN is doing. Does anybody even watch social media filled with amateur detectives and professional liars and politicians that will take all of this and turn it into just fundraising copy? This is why we need your money now more than ever. The stakes are too high. Give, give, give. Meanwhile, the little baby in between us, the truth suffocates. And why does that happen? Because for one reason, we're all goldfish. We cannot pay attention and stay focused on one thing for more than five seconds. And then the other thing is, we can't admit that the world is not entirely black and white. There is good and evil, but there is also shades of gray when it comes to which side is good side and which side is a bad side. People said some absolutely crazy things during COVID that were wrong. They've put a chip inside of the vaccine. They're chipping all of us. They're gonna be tracking all of us. Not true. Not true. And then there was a lot of stuff that was said that sounded crazy, and these institutions just dismissed legitimate questions, and those people were wrong. Wait, both sides can't be right and wrong. Yes, they can. Yes, they can. This is the part that modern America and the rest of the world has forgotten. Reality usually is complicated enough and fair enough to humiliate everybody to some degree or another. Science is not a church. Intelligence agencies are not infallible or always good or always bad. Politicians are not priests. Skeptics are not automatically prophets or kooks. The real problem is, you know, I looked at these two stories. I thought, what are we even going for? Can. What principle should we be looking for? We don't know how to separate principles from tribes. So let me try on this one. Forget about Foushee for a second. Forget about the CIA for a second. Those are both really important. But forget about Republicans versus Democrats. Forget about whether you wore a mask or you refused one. What are the principles here? Because that's where an adult should begin. So here they are, principle number one. In a free society, the government must never, ever knowingly mislead the public during a crisis. I don't even know if I have to say, in a crisis, it should never knowingly mislead people. And in a crisis, because, you know, they'll say, you know, the people might panic as a result. What? Even if you think the public can't handle uncertainty, you have to tell the truth. I don't care if you think you're acting for noble reasons, it's not a noble act to lie. Once authorities decide they can shape reality, you know, to give the people for their own good, self government begins to die. And you know what you get? You get a bunch of hapless rubes like we have now. They're like, I don't know what's going on. I don't know. I don't. I don't know. Who did we break away from the American Revolution? Was it Vietnam? Principle number two. Scientific debate must always remain open, especially during emergencies. The moment dissent becomes censorship, science is corrupted. Real science survives questioning. In fact, it depends on it. And we now know, absolutely know, that serious credentialed experts were at times, at best, dismissed. They were throttled online. They were professionally threatened or destroyed only for asking questions that later became mainstream discussions. That turned out to be right. That should terrify everybody. Left, right, independent, doesn't matter. Everyone, everyone should look at what happened during COVID and go, jeez, that could never happen again. But it's going to. Why? Because we're not talking about it. We had a chance to talk about it and then. Missing boxes. Principle number three. Intelligence agencies cannot become domestic narrative managers. And this one really matters. The CIA. Why do they exist? What is their charter? Their charter is to gather foreign intelligence, not shape what Americans are allowed to think. The FBI, what do they exist for? To investigate federal crimes, not referee political speech. Once these agencies begin acting like guardians of acceptable reality. The Constitution. It might as well be Alka Seltzer. Throw some water on it. It'll dissolve. History is full of governments that convince themselves we're just protecting democracy as they strangle it to death. Principle number four. Skepticism has to be disciplined. This one's just as important as the other. Just because institutions have lied before does not mean that every rumor is true. A free people cannot survive on paranoia. We can't survive on not trusting anything. If every missing file becomes proof of a global conspiracy, then reason collapses from the other direction. You cannot build a healthy society on blind trust or no trust. You can't build one on blind suspicion either. Which leaves you sitting in your truck or your kitchen. Go. I don't even want to listen anymore. I don't even know. How do you even find the truth? I don't even know. What is the truth? That's the real question. And perhaps the answer is harder than we want it to be, because here's the truth on that one. You're not going to get a movie ending. You're not I. Highly. In fact, I would be suspicious if we ever find that single binder that is stamped classified. And you open it up and it's like, oh my gosh, Fauci killed JFK with MK Ultra. It doesn't work like that. The truth emerges slowly, painfully, through contradictions, through documents that were released years later that should have been released right away, through patterns, through testimony, through comparing incentives, through people who, you know, are willing to revise their own beliefs when new evidence appears. That's the one that really matters the most. Because the one thing that is the real crisis in America is not institutional dishonesty alone. It's the fact that nobody wants to be proven wrong anymore. Nobody. Everything is identity now. It's tribe and team, and that's it. If Fauci lied, some people think I have to defend that to the very end because my worldview completely collapses. No, it doesn't. That part of your worldview collapses. And it will feel good when you. The truth shall set you free. If certain Covid skeptics exaggerated or spread nonsense, others are going to feel exactly the same panic. But a mature adult society, for it to survive, it has to pursue truth over ego. And here's the only way you get to the truth. Truth that matters. Will you apply the truth? Will you. Will you allow the truth to change you if you are wrong? Most people won't. That's why they don't want to hear it. Because that requires humility. It requires us going, I don't know yet. I don't. Well, that evidence really matters. Well, but wait a minute. That source might be wrong. Look, if you're going to make that claim, you've got to prove that. Wow. That contradiction, that deserves some investigation. That agency really failed that person, that critic. They might be dishonest. We should check into that. That's what adults do. Our founders understood something. You know, modern America has to relearn, and we're relearning it. But it's just going to get harder and harder to relearn it. Human beings get this. It's way out on a limb. Human beings are flawed. All of us. All of us. That's why our founders built a system not based on trust in rulers, but on a restraint of power for those rulers. On transparency, on competing interest, on checks and balances. The freedom to question authority without fear. That's the biggest principle underneath all of this. It's not Foushee. It's not the CIA. It's not Covid. The principle is this. No institution should become so powerful that questioning it becomes dangerous. No citizen should become so tribal that the truth itself no longer matters. I can't believe I'm quoting this in a serious way, but to quote Jack Nicholson, you can't handle the truth. And until you learn how to handle it, you're not gonna get it. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. And don't forget, rate us on itunes. Host of the podcast Liz Truss show and former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.

[B]

Hi, great to be on.

[A]

Glenn, it's so good to see you again. Last time you were on with me, you said you thought that by 2030, England could be, but you had hope for it could be a failed state. Is it getting better or worse?

[B]

It's getting worse. I mean, if you look at the state of our public finances, our debt, the bond markets, we're approaching a financial crisis. If you look at illegal immigration, we have a crisis there. If you look at all the issues that have been brushed under the carpet, the grooming, gangs that haven't been dealt with, the, the crime that we're seeing in our cities and the general decay and stagnation in this country, we are very, very close to the edge.

[A]

So I was, I just got here on Sunday and I'm staying here in downtown London, staying in a nice hotel, you know, doing all. Nice shopping and seeing all the sights and everything looks wonderful. Looks like it did five years ago when I was here three years ago. And I, on day number two, I'm like, this doesn't match what I'm reading and what I'm seeing when I'm overseas. And I realized, well, because I'm not out suburbs. And I thought, is that what is happening in the. With the elites, that all of this looks fine? But you go outside the. There is no manufacturing anymore, there's no industrial base anymore. Your farmers are screaming for help, you know, job losses, the, the, the problems with, you know, the, the migrants coming in and just completely changing the culture and the cities, the rape gangs and everything else. Is it that the elites. Because media is here, finance is here, government is here. It's all in just a very small area.

[B]

We are in a huge bubble here right in London. And the people that benefit from the system, the government is spending half of our national income. So if you're a bureaucrat, you know, if you're in the media that's also supported by the state, like the BBC, if you're in a bank that has been bailed out by the government, you're doing okay. And the Waves that are lapping up have not hit you yet. But if you go to a northern town where you've lost the steel plant, you've lost the car plant because of our crazy energy policies, our energy prices are four times what they are in the US or, you know, your daughter has been raped by a Pakistani Muslim grooming gang, and the police have done nothing about it because they don't want to be seen as racist. If you are somewhere like that, you are very, very angry about what's happened in our country. And just to give you a comparison, Glenn, in the year 2000, the average Brit was about as well off as the average American. We are now. You are now 50% richer in terms of income per capita. And we are poorer than Mississippi. You know, we're poorest.

[A]

That's the poorest city.

[B]

We're poorest, the poorest state in America. And we have had stagnation, absolute stagnation for the last decade, decade or so. And it is hitting people really hard. And that is why we had the massive reaction we saw at the local election. So here in London, people are voting for the Labour Party or the Green Party, but in places like Rover and Doncaster, they've all gone to reform because they are so angry with what's happening in our country. So you can look at the map to see where the rich areas are that are doing okay and benefiting from the status quo and everyone else who has been hugely let down.

[A]

So I know in every other country 100 years ago what that would mean if you had a crown on your head. But you can't ignore the average person that is the backbone of your country and expect it to last. I mean, what is the plan from.

[B]

But this is literally what Keir Starmer's been doing. He's had his hands over his ears. He's blamed all of the country's problems on the far right. He has said that that is the issue, that we're not close enough to the eu, even though they're stagnant as well. You know. And he said the problem is, you know, President Trump, he said, the problem is Liz Truss. The problem is Brexit. He's blamed anybody apart from the terrible policies, which is what has brought our country to its knees, which are things like our terrible energy policies, our terrible immigration policies, our terrible public spending policies. That's why we are in a terrible mess, a really terrible mess.

[A]

And you're in a worse mess in one way, because you don't have the First Amendment, which people think freedom of speech or freedom of religion. No, it's. Those are two out of the five. Freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom to petition, freedom to assemble, freedom to go to your government and say, wait a minute, stop it, you don't have any of that.

[B]

And so we used to have it, of course, with the bill of rights, 1689, but successive governments have legislated to take away our freedom of speech and to introduce things like hate crime laws. And these have been.

[A]

But this isn't hate crime that is happening on Saturday. I'm speaking at a rally. I don't know everybody that is speaking. I'm not involved in European or, you know, UK politics, But to be able to stand up and challenge your government saying, hey, we just want equal access to the law and equal punishment across the board for whoever you are. And now your Prime Minister is banning people from coming into the city and into the country to say those words as if it's like something crazy to say.

[B]

Correct. But if you say the wrong thing in Britain, according to Keir Starmer, you get put in jail. So we had Lucy Conley, who was jailed for a tweet, and she was jailed for 31 months. And what he's also doing is banning people he doesn't agree with from entering the country, including elected members of the European Parliament. This is an attempt to suppress debate and suppress speech. And yes, because we don't have a First Amendment in Britain, it makes it easier for the government to do it. They've used legislation that's been passed over the last 30 years to prosecute people. But even in America, there were attempts to suppress speech. You know, if you look at what Biden did with the tech industry, trying to take people off things like Twitter, there's the same tendency of the left across the world. It's in the Democrat Party in America, it's in the eu, it's in the Labour Party here in Britain to not deal with the problems, but to stop people talking about it. We are living in some kind of weird version of East Germany, but that is how bad it is. People are banned from coming into the country, people are jailed for saying things,

[A]

but yet you have people in boats just washing up on shore and nobody's even saying anything.

[B]

Yeah, some people have suggested these speakers for tomorrow sort of just jumped in a boat and then they'd be absolutely fine. And, you know, there's such a two tier nature of the way all this is being dealt with. So there's also a rally happening tomorrow in the Palestinian course. And whereas they are Using things like facial recognition for the Unite the Kingdom rally. They're not using that on the pro Palestinian protestors. So you are seeing a totally different approach to.

[A]

Yeah, I saw that. I saw what the police said. They're going to be 4,000 policemen, facial recognition drones and everything else. And I thought, I'm not entirely sure that's for the safety of the people attending the rally as much as it is the safety, I guess, of Keir Starmer and having an enemies list. Are you insinuating that that is kind of what's happening?

[B]

Well, what I'm saying is there seems to be a very different approach being taken to these two different sorts of rally. And we've seen in Britain, for example, the Chief Constable of the West Midlands had to retire because he was found fabricating evidence at the behest of the local Islamists. See, what we have seen is infiltration into our police of a particular ideology and infiltration into other parts of the bureaucracy. This is a very serious issue. And Keir Starmer is part of that ideology. He wants to appease the Islamists. This is one of the reasons he didn't back President Trump in the Iran war. He is desperately worried that they are losing voters to the Green Party, who are even more nutty and even more communist than the Labour Party. And this is what's resulted. You know, our justice system, which was all about everybody should be treated equally before the law, is now being undermined, completely undermined.

[A]

Well, you have a. I guess a media outlet here called Five Pillars, which is a Islamist outlet, and they have come out and said, by the way, Tommy, you should know, all of the speakers that were canceled, we're the ones that got the government to do it. I mean, that's an incredible statement.

[B]

It is incredible and it is shocking what has happened. And you would have thought that the Home Office would have thought twice before banning an elected member of the European Parliament, a sister, you know, an ally of Britain, a Polish mep. But the problem is the ideologues have got hold of the agenda. And one of the other deep problems that Britain has is the bureaucracy and the judiciary have been given more and more power and they're making more and more decisions. I wouldn't be surprised if that decision hadn't even gone to ministers. I wouldn't be surprised if that decision wasn't made by an unelected bureaucrat.

[A]

Unbelievable. And it's. What's so scary is we'd be right there with you if it hadn't been for Donald Trump. We'd be right there with you. We all, you know, you see what's happening in Canada. The world has gone. The Western world has gone insane. And I can't figure out what their end goal is other than some sort of one world kind of government where. I don't know, they're just. Where everybody is in a cage.

[B]

Their end goal is destroying the west, is destroying the west from within. These are Islamic Communists. If you look at Mandami or you

[A]

look at Zach Polanski in Britain, that ends like Iran. That's what happened in Iran in 1979. The Marxist and the Islamists got together, and I got news for you. The Islamists kill the Marxists in the end. You know, jail them or kill them. So I don't know how they're thinking they're going to win in the end,

[B]

but what they are about is destructionism. They're about destroying the things they hate. What do they hate? They hate patriotism, they hate the family, they hate enterprise and business. Those are the things they are trying to destroy. It's true that they. They're sowing the seeds of their own destruction because ultimately the Islamists will get them. But that's not what they're thinking. They're. They're focused on, we want a wealth tax, we want rent controls, we want transgender rights, we want men to be able to go into women's bathrooms. That's what they're focused on because they want to destroy the very things that have made our countries great. And they've been trying to do this and they've been successful for decades. When I'm talking about our institutions in Britain, those institutions have been infiltrated over a number of years. And we've now reached the tipping point where those people feel emboldened to say the things out loud in public that they were saying behind closed doors before. So we have the governor of the bank of England talking about getting closer to the eu, talking about net zero, making essentially political points. And this is what we're seeing with the police, it's what we're seeing with the Home Office. We're seeing people who are meant to be independent, who are meant to be bureaucrats, being political, and none of them are political on the right, none of whom.

[A]

So let me, let me take a quick break and then come back and ask you because, I mean, I have my concerns that Donald Trump can get deep enough into the institutions to root that out. You have legitimately a shadow government. I mean, you literally have a shadow government. And, And I don't I mean, I don't know how you turn this around. So I want to ask you, how does the West, Europe and England turn this around? Especially if Donald Trump loses, you know, the Senate and the House, which I don't think hopefully will happen now. But if you don't have a J.D. vance, if you go back to a Kamala Harris, this stuff is going to come pouring back in the United States and then it's just fuel on the fire. So how does it work out? You're streaming the Best of Glenn Beck to hear more of this interview and others, download the full show podcasts. Wherever you you get podcasts. Eva Vladingerbrook is with us now and she is a Dutch political commentator. Eva, welcome. How are you?

[C]

Hi, Glenn. It's great to see you. Be it virtually in a normal world, I would have been with you in a studio, but I guess that's why we're talking today.

[A]

I know I, and I was looking forward to meeting you. We have, we have tried to book you for a very, very long time. I think. I watch your videos and I, you know, I just don't see the inner hidden Nazi that everybody, I guess, in parliament in Europe feels you are. You've been making a great case for the farmers in the Netherlands. And, and I honestly, I didn't understand the plight of the Dutch farmer until I come here and I start looking at the high gas prices and then I start looking at the taxes that they are putting on top of them. And is it Holland? I can't remember which, which country is adding almost a $5 gasoline tax per gallon. There's, and they're doing it for global warming. There's no way any farmer can survive $5 a gallon gas as a tax on top of what they're paying. Right?

[C]

That's right. And it's not the only thing. I mean, the attacks on the farmers are, you know, they go far beyond even just the gas. They've been going on for years and years and years. And it, I cared about a lot. And I guess to get back to your previous statement about that, you don't see the inner Nazi in me that, you know, they make me out to be here in Europe. I guess, you know, that's what this boils down to. It's once you speak out about the injustices that are being done against groups like the farmers or against the native population in Europe. When you talk about mass immigration or in general, you just go against the establishment. They come at you really hard over here. And as you know, we do not have a first nor a second Amendment. You know, free. Free speech doesn't exist here, in my opinion, because it's very, very limited. Limited to essentially the mainstream narrative. I mean, if you repeat that, then you're fine, but if you go against it, then you get smeared, you get prosecuted, you get banned from countries now. So, yeah, the list goes on and on and on. And I guess that's what I've been experiencing here for many, many years. And I'm sorry I didn't go on your show before. I've had a bit of a wild ride the past two years. Getting married, having a baby. It's been really fun, but it's been intense. So I hope we can do this more often from now.

[A]

We would love it. So tell me, the. What is the thing that you planned on saying that would agitate? That was just too tough for the English people to hear, according to Keir Starmer.

[C]

Okay, I'll give you a little bit of a backstory because I actually got banned back in January already. I received an email out of the blue. I hadn't booked flight flights yet to go to the rally. Now coming up on Saturday. I hadn't even publicly confirmed that I was going to be speaking again because I spoke at the last big Unite the Kingdom rally in September, a couple of days after Charlie Kirk was assassinated. And that was incredible. You know, there were many tributes to him. Specifically, we were talking about immigration. I made a point to really make a plea for remigration. And I attacked Keir Starmer in my speech quite, you know, strongly. But that's not illegal in a free, you know, Western liberal democracy, is it, you think? But yeah, so I, I received an email out of the blue from the United Kingdom government saying that they had revoked my eta, which is basically the UK version of an esta. You know, what Europeans need to go to America after Brexit. We needed something similar to go to the UK and they just revoked it. And I thought to myself, how is this possible? What's happening? What happened in the past couple of days that they decided to do this now out of the blue? And then I figured, oh, I posted a tweet calling Keir Starmer an evil, despicable man just three days prior to receiving that email. And I had been on the phone with Tommy Robinson privately confirming that I would be speaking at that rally. And now when we're talking about the many, many attacks on free speech here in Europe for your audience, I received a message from Apple a year ago saying that my phone was under mercenary spyware attack, meaning someone's listening to me all of the time. And I don't know, you know, I can only speculate, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone thought the fact that she's calling out Starmer for what he is, in my opinion, and that she's planning to go and speak again at that rally. And it was such a success last time, we want to avoid that from happening again. And they banned me already back in January, and now they're banning basically everyone who was coming from abroad to speak at that rally.

[A]

Let me ask you why? What are they so. What are they so enthralled with? I mean, they have. They have pushed aside all of the working class, the farmers, they've destroyed the factories. I mean, England really doesn't have, you know, any manufacturing left to, to speak of here. So I don't know where their growth is going to come from. You know, I guess people think the financial markets, that ain't going to happen. They've. They've destroyed these communities now they've moved in people that just don't seem to want to be English. They don't want the culture, they want their own culture. Well, you had that culture where you came from go, you go back, that's fine. I'm not saying anything bad about your culture, but it's not this culture. And it, you know, Sharia law in particular is incompatible with the Western culture. It. It cannot happen or coexist. And the list of countries where they've tried it shows it fails every single time. I'm trying to figure out where these elites think they're going to end up. I mean, how does, how, how do they even begin to think this is going to work for their country? What, what is their plan?

[C]

I mean, you know, I think it's very sinister. If you manage to completely suppress any sense of identity and national pride in your own people, you weaken them. You know, you take away all of the landmarks that once made them great, you take away their means to stand up for themselves and say, I don't want to be treated by you this way. I don't want to be thrown in jail by you just because I say something that you disagree with or that threatens your power. Because that's what this boils down to, right? I mean, in the United Kingdom, Keir Starmer is putting ordinary citizens in jail for saying things that he doesn't like, especially when it comes to immigration, especially when it comes to Islam. Because, you know, if you go against that and if you Say, no, I do take pride in my culture, in my heritage, in my history, and I don't want to see it destroyed. Well, then, you know, you go against them, you go against what they've been doing, and they will not get reelected. And obviously, Keir Starmer has an approval rate that is at an historic low. So this man is just holding on to power for dear life. And I don't think that he, that he really thinks about or doesn't care at least what type of message it sends to the world to say, okay, we're gonna throw our own citizens in jail. And then the people who we can't throw in jail because they are not our citizens, we're just gonna ban. But you know, what they want to avoid is to see that massive crowd that we saw in September of all these people waving their flags, showing that national pride, saying, no, I am, I am English, I am British, I am proud to be British. And Keir Starmer, well, they said a lot of things that were maybe even less nice, you know, than what I said about him when they were there. And he clearly fears that. So that's what I think this comes down to. They want to, they want to suppress that at all costs.

[A]

Well, they came out with, you know, there'd be 4,000 police officers there. There. They're not going to put up with anything on the stage. And if, if anybody says anything that agitates they will be dealt with quickly and taken to jail. I mean, I know what I'm going to say, and I got to change a word. I don't care. You know, I don't care. I'm not going to. I don't even know what that is. I don't even know what you're. What are you threatening? What are you so afraid of? What kind of speech is it that you are so afraid of? I mean, I understand if you are actually going out and you're calling for violence, that's another thing. But if you're just saying, I am proud of my country, I'm proud of our heritage, I don't, I don't denigrate other people's heritage. But if you are going to come here, you have to live by our laws and there can't be a two tier justice system. You can't rape our children, you can't do that. And, and why are they not being prosecuted? And yet you're looking and measuring every word I say here. It doesn't make any sense. What is it that they're afraid of?

[C]

It's a Disgrace. It's a disgrace. Exactly. I mean, Keir Starmer was nicknamed Two Tier Cure for a reason. It's exactly that. I mean, also my, my case now, the fact that I've been banned, you know, I'm a Dutch woman without a criminal record. I'm. I'm a lawyer, I'm a commentator. I've never done anything illegal, you know, so, you know, the only crime that I've committed is speaking my mind. And he bans me from entering the country for a day, yet allows hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants to come in who are there to claim social benefits, who do not want to assimilate into English society whatsoever. We've seen that, you know, that we are beyond that now. And I think what he's so afraid of, especially in my case, was saying, look, Keir Starmer, you are an evil and despicable man because you have betrayed your own people. And that is not something that, you know, is something that we should easily forgive. Keir Starmer should be out of office. Should have been out of office, like.

[A]

But is it just Eva, is it just Keir Starmer? Because this is all part of the Great Reset. I mean, this is happening in your country and all over Europe. And if Donald Trump, if we. If somehow or another it fails and you don't get a Marco Rubio or J.D. vance or somebody who understands what Donald Trump is trying to do, it's all going to come rushing back to America as well.

[C]

Yes, that's right.

[A]

It's not just your Starmer.

[C]

It's not. It's not just Keir Starmer. I mean, you know, the United Kingdom left the European Union. We are still stuck in with the European Union looming over our heads, restricting our speech, deciding what happens to our borders, eroding our national identities. You know, even just the idea of democracy really doesn't exist in the way that it should. In a sense, that we have supernational organizations dictating what our laws should be because they have precedence over the laws that we make in our national parliaments. You know, so the people that we represent or that represent us, that we vote into office, they are below in hierarchy, unelected bureaucrats who stand for exactly that same agenda of what you call the Great Reset. And that's the. The globalist agenda. Of course, you have to erode this, all these national identities, and you have to suppress that national pride in order to create that world that they then, of course, can govern without control. Because, I mean, democracy and globalism, that doesn't go together. That doesn't work. So you're right. It's not just Keir Starmer. It's everywhere. In Europe, at least, it's really bad. But Orban out of office, we also lost one of our strongest fighters against that system. System. So even though I'm someone who's hopeful and always will be because I believe in God and I believe that, you know, goodwill eventually prevail, we are in a dire situation. There's no doubt about it.

[A]

Does Western civilization survive?

[C]

It has to. It has to. And you know, you, myself, and I think many other people will, are willing to dedicate their lives to fighting for it at least. And that's the most important thing.

[A]

Eva, thank you so much. I hope we get to meet someday. Thank you.

[C]

Me too. Be safe. Have a lot of fun on Saturday. And I can't wait to see you guys, at least on screen. I think it's going to be fantastic.

[A]

You got it. God bless you. Thank you.