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Glenn Beck
It's Super Davos Day. It's Super Davos Day. It's Super Davos Day. Yeah. Davos in Switzerland. Yeah. You had Donald Trump show up and, I mean, he torched the place. I have never seen anything like it. On the full show, you're going to be able to hear Liz Wheeler talk about it. We talk as a group and I go over all of his speech at Davos. It was intense. I also on today's podcast, go over how Davos became the center of government ideas and leadership, what Davos really is, and an amazing conversation with the new head of NASA about Artemis 2. Also the rescue. I don't even know if you knew this. This is the first time this has ever happened in space history. I don't know what it is because of, you know, HIPAA requirements, but one of our astronauts at the space station had a major problem, medical problem. Don't know what it was, but it was get all of the astronauts off of the space station. We did it in lightning time with SpaceX back at home and that astronaut has been stabilized. Wait until you hear the story and the future of the moon, which is just a few weeks away with Jared Isaacman. All that and so much more on today's podcast. We are in the middle of one of the worst flu seasons we've seen in decades. And I don't think most people really understand that yet, you know, but this isn't the kind of year where a couple of people, you know, get sick and everybody moves on. This is. This one is different. 45 states are reporting abnormally high flu activity. Millions of people have already caught it and it hasn't even peaked yet. Now think about how fast a normal flu can turn serious when you're stuck, you know, waiting, waiting to get to a doctor's office, waiting in a packed pharmacy, or waiting to find out too late that the medication you need is on backorder. That's why I believe in Jace Medical. The Jace case is about being ready before you need it, having real prescriptions, medications on hand so you can act fast if somebody in your family gets get sick. It's simple. A licensed doctor prescribes it and it shows up at your door. And this is about taking responsibility of your family's health, nothing else. So go to jace.com Enter the promo code beck jace.com Promo code beck. Get a discount on on your order now. Promo code Beck. J A S E dot com. Hello America. You know, we've been fighting every single day. We push back against the lies, the Censorship, the nonsense of the mainstream media that they're trying to feed you. We work tireless to bring you the unfiltered truth because you deserve it. But to keep this fight going, we need you right now. Would you take a moment and rate and review the Glenn Beck podcast? Give us five stars and leave a comment. Because every single review helps us break through Big Tech's algorithm to reach more Americans who need to hear the truth. This isn't a podcast. This is a movement. And you're part of it, a big part of it. So if you believe in what we're doing, you want more people to wake up, help us push this podcast to the top. Rate, review, share. Together, we'll make a difference. And thanks for standing with us. Now, let's get to work.
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Jared Isaacman
You're listening to the Best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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Glenn Beck
I gotta tell you, I think today is very consequential. I don't know how it's all gonna work out. I hope that it works out in our favor, but I've never heard a president speak to the world like this. And he means it. And he knows he is carrying a very, very large stick. He knows it. And, you know, there are parts of the speech that he was the typical Donald Trump, you know, and I'm the greatest, and you all know it, which always makes me a little uncomfortable. I wish he were a little more humble, but that's Donald Trump. But he did say over and over and over again probably six times how much he loved and respected Europe, how he is his family is from Germany and Scotland and how important they are and how much, you know, the history between us and how much Western culture means. However, Western culture is dying in Europe because you refuse to stand up for it. When he got into Greenland, he really started to, you know, he started really, you know, he said, Europe has turned their backs on things that have made us strong. He took on Canada in a way I have never heard before. He talked about how, you know, Greenland is important because we're gonna use it to defend not just. Not just the United States, but also Canada and Europe. And he said, you know, the Canadian prime minister spoke yesterday, and I didn't think he did very well. And then he said, he's probably in here, Mark. I wouldn't speak that way again, or something like that. And it was shocking the way he didn't. He didn't even show him the deference of being prime minister. It was. Mark, you should watch your words. He is not fooling around. And he is declaring an end to this new world order, this globalist kind of thing that the world has been building. He did, like I said a minute ago, he said, I will not use force on Greenland. I don't want to use it, and I won't use force, which I think is significant. So let's start with Greenland. Jason, I just heard you talking on the Insider broadcast. By the way, the Insider, it is still free this week. Next week it'll start going into you'll have to subscribe to get it. But if you go to glenn beck.com you get the Insider when the radio show goes into commercial breaks. Jason joins us from behind the scenes. And he is, he's, he's giving more information on what we're talking about and deeper analysis. And we work together a couple of hours before the show, so we are in sync. And he gives all the information. I just don't have time to give. But you gave a great stat a minute ago about how Greenland pledged during the Trump first term. He went to Europe and said, NATO allies, you need to pony up for your own defense. We are paying for all of it. And we're done paying for all of it. And he went to Greenland and he said, it's time for you to step to the plate. And they pledged to pay, which is a lot for Greenland, $200 million in their own defense. And so he accepted that. Jason, tell me what happened as soon as Trump left office. How much did they pay of that $200 million?
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Jason (Insider broadcast analyst)
Hey, Glenn. So, yeah, this was a big part of their negotiations with at that time, they were trying to get NATO to allocate more money. Everyone. And it was largely being successful what Trump was trying to do. But Denmark, they allocated $224 million. They said, we agree with you. We're going to be expanding airspace surveillance. That's great. Reconnaissance, awesome. Arctic defense measures. I mean, it sounded really, really good. Well, what they ended up doing after Trump left office was they only allocated 1% of that entire 224 million. And that must. And most of that money that they set aside for defense went to social programs. That's one of, that's been their biggest Achilles heel every time they always go off and they, you know, they fund the welfare state every single time. That's what they did. They do not treat security seriously. So what Trump is doing right now, and it's all across the board on a lot of these measures is, I think the best way I can describe this is tough love. We're seeing a eulogy and a funeral Right now at the wef, which actually is amazing to see, but you have. And Trump just said, you know, Daddy, Trump, he's providing the tough love. This is after the son lost his basketball game. And instead of the dad saying, you'll get him next time. You'll be fine. No, he's saying, get your butt into the gym, workout and practice your jump shot. That's what he's saying.
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Glenn Beck
Ricky and Stu, like you to join in most significant takeaways that you heard from the president's speech today.
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Ricky (Guest or co-host)
I liked his rebuke of Carney. And for those viewers and listeners who don't have context, we do have two cuts from yesterday so they understand why Trump was so heated about Prime Minister Carney from Canada.
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Glenn Beck
Let's play those two cuts. Here's what Carney said yesterday in his speech to the wef.
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Prime Minister Mark Carney (Canada) - speech clips
We understand that this rupture calls for more than adaptation. It calls for honesty about the world as it is. We are taking the sign out of the window. We know the old order is not coming back. We shouldn't mourn it. Nostalgia is not a strategy. But we believe that from the fracture, we can build something bigger, better, stronger, more, just. This is the task of the middle powers, the countries that have the most to lose from a world of fortresses and most to gain from genuine cooperation. The powerful have their power. We have something, too. The capacity to stop.
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Glenn Beck
I want you to listen. I want you to hear what he just said. He just said the old order is not coming back. That is 100% accurate. Now, what order is he talking about? The Order of Bretton Woods? The Order of the Petrodollar? The order that the United States set up back in 1945. It's over. It doesn't work. Trump. He is saying exactly the same thing that Trump is saying. However, Carney is saying we need to. That's why we need to band together and have a new world order. This, this great reset kind of order. We'll have a new world order where the elites all get together from all over the world and they make the decisions. Trump, the beginning of his speech, he was talking and addressing that very thing. That hasn't worked. More bureaucracy will not fix it. More globalization, more melding of our countries together will not fix this. That is not the way to go. That is more of what was built in 1945. That is not working. It's time to end all of that. Here's cut two from Carney.
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Prime Minister Mark Carney (Canada) - speech clips
For decades, countries like Canada prospered under what we called the rules Based international order. We joined its institutions, we praised its principles, we benefited from its predictability. And because of that we could pursue values based foreign policies under its protection. We knew the story of the international rules based order was partially false. That the strongest would exempt themselves when convenient, that trade rules were enforced asymmetrically. And we knew that international law applied with varying rigor depending on the identity of the accused or the victim.
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Glenn Beck
Can we stop here for pause just for a second? That is amazing that he is saying that because he is describing exactly the order that they are trying to impose on people. That if you're an elite, you get away with it. But if you're a little guy or you're on the wrong side, you don't get away with it, you pay a very heavy penalty. He's saying that, he's implying here that the United States was the one that won every single time in little countries like Canada did not win. I would suggest, Mr. Prime Minister, you won a bucket load. You won a bucket load Canada. And I don't want, I do not want a Canada bash. I love Canada. I love Canadians. I don't want to have a problem with Canadians. But let's please just admit the truth. The United States has foot the bill for your security. You have all benefited from the United States being as strong as it was. Meanwhile, every one of you hollowed us out. We allowed you to do it, but we got into the World Trade Organization. We did all these things and said, you know what, we're gonna, we're gonna spread the wealth some. And you all benefited from that. Most importantly, you benefited from the shield of the United States military. You wanna know what the world is like without the United States? I think Donald Trump should say, no more protection for anyone but the United States. And the American people would cheer. We're not footing the bill for a single war. Not a single tank, not a single airplane, nothing. You get nothing from the United States in defense.
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Stu (Guest or co-host)
That is almost exactly what he said.
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Glenn Beck
In much shorter form, what he said.
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Stu (Guest or co-host)
His quote was, canada lives because of the US Remember that mark the next time you make your statements. That's really direct and clear.
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Glenn Beck
And have you ever heard, Stu, have you ever heard a president of the United States speak like that?
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Stu (Guest or co-host)
No, but how common is this?
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Glenn Beck
Glenn?
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Stu (Guest or co-host)
I've been doing this for a long time. How common is it when we cover another nation who has received all sorts of bounty and gifts and protection and favors and all sorts of things from the United States come up and do their speech in front of the UN in front of Davos, whatever it is, and bash us over and over and over and over again. It feels good to have a president that stands up and says, no, you're not doing that anymore. If you want anything from us, Good. And they really should be a little more careful with the way that they treat us. You could argue with some of the stuff that Trump does and whether he should be treating allies in certain ways. All those conversations can be valid at times. But we never hold these people to those standards. They're constantly trashing us. They're constantly telling us we're involved in genocides around the world. I'm sick of it.
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Glenn Beck
I'm done with it.
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Ricky (Guest or co-host)
Glenn, do you think that Carney has found this newfound confidence and boldness and bravado because of this strategic alliance he's trying to build with China?
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Glenn Beck
No. I think he believes in the new world order. He believes in the power of the banking community. He believes in. He believes in the wef. He also believes that China, you know, is. Is a great, you know, is a great ally for China at least to threaten with. But China will eat you, Canada. China will eat you. Good luck with that. The only thing that I have seen that would make sense, I hesitate to even say it, but no world leader is listening to me, so. But the only thing that you could actually threaten the United States with and make a difference is if, If Europe started to say, we're gonna sell all of our US Treasuries. We don't believe in US Treasuries. You start selling our Treasuries, that's the only power you have to hold over our head. And Denmark just said they were gonna start doing that. We don't believe in U.S. treasuries anymore. We're thinking about liquidating all of our Treasuries. Now. Whether they do or not is another thing. Cause that will only hurt your own people. It's the only investment you can make. What are you gonna invest in? Where are you going to put your money? You put it in the United States, in the United States stock market. Or are you going to pull it all out and put it someplace else? You're not going to do that. I mean, you will only hurt your own people. But that is the only threat that could possibly come up against the United States. So I think Carney is wildly mistaken. You know, you've got to remember how Donald Trump negotiates. Donald Trump negotiates. He first says it nicely and he's like, hey, let's work together on this. I'd like to do this. What do you think about this? How can we make a deal for both of us here that's good on this? Once you say no, if he is determined to get it done, then he starts upping the ante. Then he starts saying, you know what? Well, you don't do that. I'm going to do this. And he makes promises. He never makes threats. He makes promises. I am going to do this. If you don't do the Venezuela Maduro leave, or we'll come and get you. Iran, knock it off. Or we will put your power plants, your nuclear power plants out of business and knock you back into the stone age in that department. He says what he means and means what he says, and he starts making promises, not threats. So when. When President Trump is all he's asking for here, and you may not like the way he's asking for it, but it's high time that somebody in America has stood up for us in America, when he says, look, we are only asking for something that is good for your security. Good for my security. You know, the United States security, you and Canada security. We have not asked you for anything since 1945, and you guys have been living off of us and living on our teat since 1945. All of these things. The United States agreed to and developed and made the world stable so you could rebuild Europe. Will you rebuild Europe? You know, 20 years after the war and you've been sucking us dry ever since. We're asking for one thing. Give it to us or we will remember. It's. It is the toughest love I have ever seen. But I would put my money on Donald Trump. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. So let me start. Let me start here. The president just spoke. He made some really big news. He is still on stage. He's fielding questions now, and some of them are about Greenland. Most of them are about Greenland and. And war. He just said that he felt that the world was in a very precarious situation because of all the miscalculations that were done by the previous administration. He said, honestly, I think if Kamala Harris would have been elected, we might be in World War Three right now. He said, but it is our duty to avoid war at all costs. We don't want war. He's been talking about ending war a lot today, but he also is talking about negotiating now for Greenland, and he's being very, very tough on it. But he is. He made the announcement today. I will not use force to take Greenland. But he was also very Clear. You have the opportunity, Europe, to say, yes, we're going to work with America, or you have the choice to say, no, we won't. And if that's your choice, we will remember. Really, really strong language, but he is couching it all as national and international security imperatives. So this is all happening up in this little Swiss town in the Swiss Alps called Davos. And, you know, this was a place that if you had tuberculosis years ago, you would go to because it was really clean air up in the mountains. And so, you know, it would. It would clean out your lungs, in your soul. And. And it was cold and inconvenient, and it was neutral on almost all things and that mattered. In 1971, an economics professor named Claus Vlog decided, you know, I'm going to invite some people up to Davos for a meeting. And it wasn't a summit, it wasn't a conclave at the time. It was just a meeting of. Of. Of minds that he respected. He believed in something radical at the time, that corporations had obligations, not just to shareholders, but to society. And he came up with something called stakeholder capitalism. It completely reversed the idea of capitalism and how it worked. And so he invited European business leaders to come up and talk. No heads of state, no grand ideology at this point, just managers comparing notes, notes on how to survive changing worlds. Now, this is in 1971. What happens in 1971? The world goes to hell in a handbasket. All of a sudden, we have the energy crisis. We get off the gold standard. Everything, everything changes. Oil shocks, inflation, and it's a slow collapse of the post World War II world order. And so all of a sudden he thinks, oh, you know, we're even more important because governments don't understand the markets and markets don't trust government. So he thought, you know what? I think we start bringing everybody together and we can really change the world. Now, I'm saying this as a story form, but I want you to know I'm not neutral on this. I think Klaus Schwab is absolute born and bred evil. I think what he believes is evil. I believe what he created was evil. I believe what's happening in Davos is evil. But I'm just telling you the story of how it happened. So by the 1980s, Schwab starts to invite all of these politicians not to speak to any voter, but to speak off the record. And then the bankers came, and then the central planners came, and then the media figures came, and they offered something really unique. No elections, no parliaments, no transcripts and no voters. By 1987, they rename it the World Economic Forum. And the word, the use of the word world. At that time, World Economic Forum was not aspirational, it was declarative. This is now the World Economic Forum, okay? And the turning point came as soon as the Berlin Wall fell. 1989, Berlin Wall falls, 1991, Soviet Union collapses and suddenly the world is up for redesign. We, the useless stupid slugs of the world like me, we thought we won. Capitalism won. Now the planners and the central planners that were meeting up in Davos, they saw this and they thought, ha ha, we can change the world and move into a completely new system. And global trade works were framed out in DAV before you ever heard about years before you ever heard about them, okay? It was Davos that Greece and Turkey avoided war in 1988 through back channel talks. It was Davos that South Africa's apartheid era leaders engaged future leaders. And they were real successes. And everybody was like, wow, that's great. But that success taught the world a very dangerous lesson. Decisions are a lot easier to make when voters are nowhere near the room. So by the 1990s, Davos is starting to become what it is. It's no longer a conference, it's a shadow anti chamber of governments. And they're starting to groom new government leaders, okay? Davos stopped explaining and started deciding. In the early 2000s, Davos had a predictable cast. They had the heads of states, the central bankers, the tech CEOs, the NGO leaders, the intelligent LinkedIn visors, the media executives. They had them all coming in and they all arrived by private jet. First to talk about climate policy, which is just hysterical. Then financial regulation, pandemic preparedness. Just two years before the pandemic, digital identity and energy rationing. And everything was how do we, how do we move from the capitalist American style governance where it was a sovereign state, into a new world order, a global system where you, the voter really aren't participating. And the conversation begins to change in the early 2000s on not, not should we, but how do we, how do we implement this? How do we get this done? Not what do the voters want, but how do we manage the public acceptance? How do we make sure they just go along with this? And that's when critics began to notice something very, very chilling. The policies that were announced as national decisions were first panel discussions in Davos. Same phrases, same frameworks, same talking points. For instance, I'm trying to remember the the build back better was used by seven different prime ministers and presidents in their election in 2020. I mean, that all came from panel discussions. That was not homegrown. That was a globalist panel discussion. Okay, so we're sitting here now looking at what it is today. There are 3,000 people in attendance today. There are 130 countries represented. There are 400 leaders, presidents, prime ministers, kings ministers, regulators. They represent 40% of the earth's population. The 3,000 people that were listening to Donald Trump today in that room represent 40% of the global population, 65 heads of state, and 850 top CEOs. So, you know, it's not cheap to get into the WEF. It is $75,000 to get in. This is. This is the posted cost. They say it's an average of about 45,000, but the post cost is 75,000. And if you want a real seat at the table, the price is $758,000. Okay, so you just put in three quarters of a million dollars, and you can, you know, sit somewhere near to these leaders. And here's what it has become. Let me give you the pipeline here of. Of Davos, because this is what. This is why Davos matters. You know, everybody makes fun of Davos if they know what it is. And they're like, oh, it's conspiracy. It's not a conspiracy. It's all right there in the. Right in front of you. Okay, so let me tell you what the pipeline is. The pipeline starts with everybody gathering, getting off their plane, gathering at these. These meetings in Davos where they discuss everything. And they're like a little hive mind. And then they share that with the think tanks and the NGOs that then also is shared with the government agencies all around the world. They don't pass the laws. They've already made the agreement globally. So now all they have to do is get it from the agencies and the NGOs to the regulators, and then the regulators write all of the regulations, and then it's your life. You didn't even know this was coming. You had no idea. You didn't have a vote in it. You had nothing. It started in Davos. Think tanks, NGOs, agencies, regulations, right to your life. And now they control your life. Okay, through the agency rules. Tell me, who'd you vote for that's running the epa? Who did you vote for that is running the Labor Department? Who did you vote? Who, when you have a problem with the. I don't even know, with the irs, who do you know that you can vote out to make sure that that changes? You know, that's right there with the IRS that are operating on regulations that the agency itself wrote. How do you change those? You don't. You don't. So you now have the higher energy costs. That all comes from Davos because they were the ones who said these higher energy costs have to do it because of global commitments. We have to stop using energy and go into green energy. The banking rules that are all written by ESG scores, which involve dei, all of that stuff came from Davos. If you're a small business, you're buried under compliance. That also comes from Davos. Any speech that is labeled misinformation and you don't get a chance to fight it, that also comes from Davos. Your higher energy costs, your higher food costs, your higher housing costs, you're told that it's necessary. Why? Because of the regulations and all of the things they planned in Davos. And when you object, they say, sorry, it's, it's global. I mean, you can't do anything about it, but there is something you can do about it, and it's called consent. Consent from the people. When elected officials attend private forums like they do in Davos that are funded by you, funded by you to coordinate policies globally before you have ever even heard of them, that's not leadership, that's management. And that is exactly what Donald Trump is, is now taking apart. In his speech, he is, he was very, very clear the world of management. Instead of listening to the voters, instead of responding to your own people in your own country, you're responding to these, this room of clowns, and you're making the decisions. You're managing people. But managed, managed societies don't remain free, at least not for long. That's what Davos is. That's why this makes, why it is so very important that you pay attention and why. I mean, I just watched the President's speech. I think it is the most powerful speech, most important and impactful international speech given by a president at least since Ronald Reagan said the evil empire speech. And Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall. He changed the world order. Today.
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Prime Minister Mark Carney (Canada) - speech clips
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Glenn Beck
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Jason (Insider broadcast analyst)
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- [31:27]
Glenn Beck
I'm so excited for, for this next segment with our next guest, Jared Isaacman. He has, he is now the head of NASA. He was, if you remember, he was nominated to be the head of NASA and then for some reason or another, that was rescinded and they went a different direction and I had him on A podcast, I don't even know a few months back. And he's just fascinating. And I'm talking to him like, you've got to be the head of the NASA of NASA. And lo and behold, Trump decides we're gonna, we're gonna renominate you. And so he is now the head of NASA. And if you have never seen a NASA launch, I was there for one of the last, or if not the last space shuttle launch. And I brought my kids. They were too young to remember now, but it is a wonder of the world. And Artemis 2 is going up here in about a month, I think. And I mean, I've got to tell you, I will be one of those. Even if I have to pull off to the side of the highway, I am going to watch this because we are going back to the moon. This will be the first time that we have gone and sent people to circle the moon one, one last time before we actually land on the moon again. But Jared is with us now. Hello, Jared, how are you?
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Jared Isaacman
Hello, sir. Thanks for having me back.
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Glenn Beck
You bet. It's great, great to talk to you. Congratulations first of all on your appointment and I'm expecting huge things from you because you are, I mean, finally, an entrepreneur in charge of, of NASA. Can we start with what happened with Crew 11, the space station? For the first time in, in history of 25 years of the, of, of the space program and of, you know, our labs up in space, we had to bring, and we had to bring the astronauts or the crew back because of a health related issue. Can you tell us what happened? And is the astronaut okay?
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Jared Isaacman
Sure. I do want to just start by saying since I heard your intro, you don't have to camp out on the side of the road for the Artemis 2 launch. I'll certainly make sure you, we've got a seat reserved for you. Especially since I know how much of a fan you are of America's space program and all of the great history you collect at your studio that I was lucky enough to see when I visited. So yeah, you can, you can guarantee we'll have a spot for you and as crew. Yeah. As far. And it's. What an exciting mission. Right. I'm sure we'll talk about it. But as far as Crew 11, you know, one of the greatest accomplishments that we've done at the International Space Station is the continuous human presence in space over a quarter of a century. Right. And that we're keeping our astronauts alive in an environment that is incredibly harsh on their body, microgravity. Does a lot of things to you from your vestibular system, cardiovascular system, bone density loss, it's a radiation environment. Right. But we're there to learn and we expect that there will be circumstances that will appear. This is why we do extensive training. Our astronauts, they're practically physicians, in fact, many of them are. We put them through extensive medical training. We put medical kits in all our spaceships. The International Space Station itself is like almost an urgent care center because they use a lot of those tools for, for science and research. And then we drill, we train for the day that there is going to be, you know, an unexpected health related incident. And it happened. And everyone did an extraordinary job. The crew 11 astronauts, there are other expedition mates on the international space stations, the flight surgeons in mission control, they all responded accordingly. The incident was stabilized very quickly.
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Glenn Beck
Can you tell us.
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Jared Isaacman
So unfortunately, due to the, you know, the, you know, medical privacy rules, I can't tell you exactly what it was other than clearly it was a very serious situation, you know, something we had not seen before in space, but had accounted for the possibility. And that is why, you know, we put in motion the option to bring our astronauts home early, which I think really speaks to American leadership in space. We can send, we can send our astronauts up, you know, more or less on command, which is what we're going to do with Crew 12 is pull their mission forward and we can bring our astronauts home as required. And this is very important to President Trump and, and obviously his position on American supremacy in space.
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Glenn Beck
So, you know, it's bizarre, Jared, because it was, it was not like that under Biden. I mean, how long did we wait to pull those astronauts back last time? And you pulled this off quickly. And when does, when does Crew 12 go up? When are you going to launch them up?
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Jared Isaacman
Well, we're evaluating that timeline now because we're also preparing for the Artemis 2 mission, which is the one you mentioned in your opening comments, where we're going to send our astronauts farther into space than we've ever sent humans before, past the moon, back around the moon and safely back to Earth. So, so there's some overlap in timelines now. So we're evaluating both, which is a great problem to have, by the way. I love the idea that we are trying to deconflict multiple, you know, historic spaceflight missions, but I do want to just give a compliment again. The Crew 11 made it easy for us to bring them home early. They had completed all their mission objectives, you know, almost ahead of schedule. They were due to come home In a matter of weeks anyway. They made it easy on us to bring them home early. And then to your point, we're preparing Crew 12 ahead of schedule, and we're preparing our Artemis 2 mission.
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Glenn Beck
Okay, now, Artemis 2, can you explain for people who don't know what this is, why, what is Artemis 2? How big is the rocket? Why are we going around the moon? Why is this the first time we've done this since the 1970s? Why are we going to the moon again?
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Jared Isaacman
Okay, so these are all great questions. So first, there is a big difference between the missions that, you know, we've all been watching take place over the last. Call it, you know, five years. You know, you see a SpaceX, Falcon 9 and Dragon send four astronauts the International Space Station almost every six months. They do it so often that it looks, you know, it looks easy and it looks routine. It's still extremely hard. You know that you're taking a Falcon 9 rocket, about 1.8 million pounds of thrust in a controlled explosion and accelerating those four astronauts to 17,500 miles an hour, and you're sending them to the International Space Station. That's hard. You want to know? It's harder. Is 8.8 million pounds of thrust accelerating more astronauts to nearly 25,000 miles per hour. Because now you have to get to near Earth escape velocity, right? Which is what's essential if you're going to send astronauts to the moon or past the moon, where you need to exceed Earth escape velocity to do missions in the future to Mars. So that's what we're talking about coming up with Artemis 2. This is a whole nother caliber of rocket. It's going to have two solid rocket boosters, throwback from the Shuttle era. Even the center core, you know, looks like the Shuttle main fuel tank. It's got shuttle main engines on it. It's liquid oxygen, liquid hydrogen, and it is going to accelerate those brave crew, Artemis 2 astronauts farther into space than we ever sent anyone before. And this is stepping one on a journey to put astronauts back on the moon.
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Glenn Beck
Is this bigger or around the same size as the Shuttle?
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Jared Isaacman
So this will be the most powerful rocket that humans have ever traveled on. So it is, it is more powerful than the Shuttle. It is going to be able to accelerate. It is more powerful than Saturn 5.
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Glenn Beck
Wow. I can't wait. I can't wait. It is, I mean, for anybody. I hate to be, but I was a kid in the 60s and 70s and I got to tell you, this makes me feel like a kid. It is a wonder of the world. If you've never seen this, you will not believe your eyes. It is a wonder. You just can't imagine man is able to do it. It's remarkable. Why are we.
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Jared Isaacman
Extraordinary? And it's step one. I can't emphasize that enough. You know, President Trump with his national space policy, he created the Artemis Program during his first term. And he said, we're not just going back to the moon to plant the flag and pick up rocks. He wants an enduring presence. He wants America to return to the moon and have the ability to stay. So this might be Artemis 2 coming up, but our children someday are going to watch Artemis 100. I mean, this mission sets up a series of launches to and from the moon, the construction of a lunar base, so we can realize the scientific and economic value of being on the lunar surface. So this is a major commitment by the President. It's very exciting.
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Glenn Beck
What are the. I mean, as an entrepreneur, you know, we run out of money at some point if we just keep thinking we can print money. How does this affect us economically? Why is this important to do this? How do we get a payoff on this other than look at us, we're on the moon.
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Jared Isaacman
It's such a great question. So, in part, we are fulfilling a promise. The American people. For 35 years, presidents have called for a return to the moon. We've spent over $100 billion to do it. It wasn't until President Trump and his first term where he really committed us on that path by creating the Artemis Program again in his second term, recommitting us and establishing the lunar base. So we're delivering on a promise here. It's a promise the American people and the pioneers from the 1960s who built the foundation that we stand upon today. Second, we don't know what we're going to find out there that could change things here on Earth. You know, on the lunar surface, you could be Mining Helium 3, which has the potential to change. Change things in energy. It's going to be a more efficient source of fusion power someday in the future. It has applications in quantum computing. Do we want to come in second place on that? Because certainly the Chinese are setting out to do this. The Russians want to do this someday. So we have an obligation for American leadership in the high ground of space. The next stop is the moon, which is what our course is on today. But the President, even through his national space policy, committed us to the investments in nuclear power, propulsion, to someday achieve American astronauts on Mars. So to your second point on is this Expensive. It is, but what's different today than it was in the 1960s is it's not all on the taxpayer's shoulders. I mean, in the 1960s we went to the moon with NASA's budget at 4.5% of the discretionary budget. Right now it's about a quarter of a percentage of that. Who's making up the difference? You've got some fantastic entrepreneurs across commercial space industry. Elon Musk at SpaceX, Jeff Bezos at Blue Origin, dozens of other companies putting their resources on the line here for a capability for the benefit of the American people and really the world.
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Glenn Beck
The significance of the United States having a moon base and being the first to have a moon base, what does that mean strategically? I mean, we've been talking about Greenland this week and everything else. I know that Space Force was used for the first time with Venezuela or at least officially used in a, in a, you know, in a mission like, like what we saw in Venezuela. What is the significance strategically of a moon base?
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Jared Isaacman
Well, really it's a, it's about what you're trying to accomplish on the lunar surface and what you can learn. Right. So if you have a orbiting base above the moon, which, which we have in our plans called Gateway, that has potentially some benefit from a logistics perspective. But you're not interacting with the regolith, you're not constructing infrastructure, you're not mining, you're not doing, you know, in situ resource manufacturing, which is essential the future of Mars mission. You're not able to develop a lunar economy above the, the moon, but you can develop a lunar economy on the moon. So it's vitally important certainly that, you know, the President United States, you know, President Trump appreciates the strategic significance of, of, of certain real estate out there. No one is better at this than the President United States and some of the most important real estate that's within our reach where we can again begin to realize scientific and economic value. It's on the lunar surface.
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Glenn Beck
Amazing. It is always great to talk to. Jared. I'm so happy that you are the guy running NASA. I mean, you are, you were born for this moment and it's thrilled to know you. Thank you so much.
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Jared Isaacman
I'm grateful for the opportunity. Thank you.
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Glenn Beck
You bet. You bet. You know, I just want to, I want to leave you with this, you know, Artemis. Do you know what Artemis is? It's Greek. It's ancient Greek. And it, it is the ancient goddess of the moon. The hunt, protection and precision and independence and resolve. It is the twin sister of Apollo, as in the Apollo program. It is. The Apollo program was to prove that it could be done. That man could go to the moon. Artemis is meant to prove we belong there. We can live there and we can build there. This is historic.