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Best of the Program | Guests: John Solomon & Todd Rokita & Leigh Ann O’Neill | 11/6/25
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Well, here it is, the Thursday podcast. We have John Solomon in who is going to tell us the latest on the ever evolving scandal of James Comey and what is really going on there and will we see justice done. Also, I talk a little bit about socialism versus Communism. It's more than just language. This is a road that leads us to a very frightening place. And it's the same road also. We have the Attorney general of the great state of Indiana on with us to talk about what is happening in a school in Indiana. Seoul school district stopped a father from picking up his son because his son and the father are illegals. Dad wanted to self deport so he could register and come back in the right way. The school district wouldn't let him take his own son. It's an outrage and you'll hear about it on today's podcast. Let me tell you about Jace Medical. You know, our ancestors didn't have a pharmacy on every corner sucked. You couldn't just run out and pick something up because, you know, I don't know, a pterodactyl came down and now you're infected from a bad bite. Their very survival, you know, depended on anything other than a pharmacy. Ours depends now on a pharmacy. You know, we, we, we have medications for a reason. And because of the pharmacy, we have also outsourced our preparedness for convenience. And here's the thing with convenience, it only works when everything else does. When the system breaks down, even for a short time, you realize how fragile that dependence really is. Jace Medical, is there somewhere between dependence and pterodactyls? You have your personal supply of prescription medications, the same ones you rely on every single day. So you're not at the mercy of a broken supply chain or a closed pharmacy. You just fill out a quick online form, you talk to a licensed physician and if a your medications arrive right to your door labeled, packaged and ready and you have a year's worth there, that's the pioneer spirit. That's the smart, practical spirit. Jace Medical because preparedness is not paranoia. Enter the promo code Beck and get a discount on your order. It's jace.com, jace.com promo code beck. Hello, America. You know, we've been fighting every single day. We push back against the lies, the censorship, the nonsense of the mainstream media that they're trying to feed you. We work tirelessly to bring you the unfiltered truth because you deserve it. But to keep this fight going, we need you right now. Would you take a moment and rate and review the Glenn Beck podcast? Give us five stars and leave a comment. Because every single review helps us break through Big Tech's algorithm to reach more Americans who need to hear the truth. This isn't a podcast. This is a movement. And you're part of it. A big part of it. So if you believe in what we're doing, you want more people to wake up, help us push this podcast to the top rate, review, share. Together, we'll make a difference. And thanks for standing with us. Now, let's get to work.
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You're listening to the Best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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I don't know if you saw the visualizing the American dream stuff. You know, what the American dream actually is, is that you can forge your own way. You can, you know, you can have a scrap of land and grow your own food if you want. You can, you know, go to school, not go to school. You can find a job, and if you're qualified for it, you have, you know, an equal chance of getting it, you know, based on merit. But the percentage of Americans who say their dream, the American dream is retirement is 86%. Health care, 86%. Owning a home, 85. Raising two kids, 78. Owning a car, 72. Vacations, 71. Pets, 66. A wedding, 55%. That's the American dream. I can get married the American dream, if that's what you think. They've now estimated the cost per household over the cost over the lifetime. Retirement is $1.6 million. Owning a home now, 30 year mortgage, 20% down payment is $957,594. Owning a car. Buying and financing two new cars every 10 years is now $900,000. Over your lifetime. Raising two kids to 18, plus four years of public college, $876,092. Two kids. Health care over your lifetime. Spending from ages 22 to 85, $414,000. Vacations. Annual vacation from 22 to 85, $180,000. One dog and one cat for 11 to 13 years is $40,000. That's more expensive than a wedding. The engagement ring, the ceremony and the reception is now estimated to be $38,200. There's a reason socialism is doing well. You look at that and you're like, wow. I mean, if that's the American dream, and for a lot of people, that is the American dream, that's not what the American dream is supposed to be. But you know, once, you know, once Woodrow Wilson and FDR got ahold of us and they started advertising, it became stuff. Instead of freedom, it became stuff. And you know, when there's a new report out. Let me see if I have that. There's a new report out now that shows first time homebuyers made up just 21% of the home purchases. That's the lowest on record. The typical age of repeat buyers hit an all time high of 62. The median down payments reaching 23%, the highest since 2003. And also, where is it, the last one is the median age for first time home buyers? In 1981 it was 29 years old. I'm sorry. Yeah, 29 years old. In 2021 it was 33 years old. What is it this year? Median age, first time homeowner? 40. You're 40 before you can buy any kind of home. That puts these things that people want dream about out of reach until you're 40. You know, 29 is one thing, but if you're not seeing, you're not seeing, you know, your life really kind of settling down until you're 40. I can understand why you're like, you know what, this system doesn't work because you've never seen it work. It's betrayed you. Or so you've been sold, it's betrayed you. And everything is being pushed out of your reach. And when you're young, the one thing you are not is patient. And at 40, I can see why people are not. Yeah, well, socialism, Neat. Because capitalism isn't working. How would you respond to that? I mean, it's more lengthy than we have time for, but I would say that the response to you thinking that you want a home is not to embrace an ideology that murders 100 million people. That's not a, that's not a good answer to the problem that you think you have. But they're not learning that anywhere. They're not. That is our responsibility to teach those things because they're not learning it anywhere. Donald Trump is getting pilloried in the press for calling Mamdani a communist. And I find this, this ritual here that we're going, you know, through is just you say the word socialist and, you know, 25 years ago when I said that these people were socialist, everybody said, oh, my gosh, you can't call him socialist. That's all right. I said, the mask is gonna come off. They can't wait to tell you that they're socialist. Now Donald Trump said, you know, mamdani is a communist. And everybody is like, oh, my gosh, look at this hysteric from the Cold War. He's just. He's out of a Cold War radio drama. So let me just clear this here, because the difference between the two terms, you know, is. Is really not some great firewall of virtue here, as if one leads to, like, Scandinavian candles and the other one leads to gulags. That's. That's not what's happening. What we've forgotten here is what always is forgotten. And that is how Karl Marx actually talked and saw the two. He didn't draw, you know, polite little distinctions. He described socialism as the transition, the necessary scaffolding that leads to communism. That's Karl Marx. So socialism, for Karl Marx was the road, not the destination. Communism is the end of that road. He wrote an essay, the Critique of Gotha Program. And Marx said, under socialism, from each according to his ability, to each according to his contribution under communism, to each according to his needs. The only difference here is timing. It's not philosophy, it's not goals. It's just how far along the revolution you are. Okay? Socialism is the bridge to communism according to Karl Marx. Don't take it from me. Communism is the completion of socialism. It's the antithesis of a free market system. Even Lenin called socialism the first and necessary phase of communism. So it's not partisan rhetoric. Okay, this is the literal architecture of Marxist thought. But can we get out of the theories of all of this? History gives us warning much more vivid than any theory. You know, we like to imagine that the worst horrors of the 20th century came from one beast alone. And we think that's Hitler. But actually a bigger beast was Stalin. But if you want to look at Germany from 1930 to 1945, you see something really uncomfortable. A socialist movement that curdled into something monstrous while it never called itself communist. In fact, the Nazi government, the National Socialists, the Nazis were not communist. They were against the communist. They killed communists, but they shared the same foundational belief that the individual is disposable and that the state defines the truth. They both believe that rights are not given by God, but administered by political power. And that dissent on any of this has to be crushed for the good of the collective. That's the definition we should care about. Socialism doesn't have to go full Marx communism to become catastrophic. It just has to replace the individual conscience with the will of the state. And don't you see? That's what's happening here. They'll crush you. They'll destroy you. You disagree with them, they'll destroy you, even if you've been on their side. I'm going to share a story with you of something from 1979 that happened that I don't think most people understand. And in New York, you better understand this. When a society accepts the premise, that premise, history shows the slide can accelerate from a utopian promise to industrialized cruelty. Horror show like that. Germany saw it, Russia saw it, China saw it, Cambodia saw it, North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba. I mean, it's all right there, just different flags, different slogans, but it's the same structural error. So can we stop with this mocking of the language? You know, people laughing, oh, he said, mom, Daddy is a. Is a communist when he's just merely a socialist. You're missing the point entirely. The issue is not whether the label is technically perfect. The issue is the philosophical DNA is exactly the same. Collectivism over the individual state, control over personal agency, central planning over free will. And that the belief that human nature can be engineered by political force, that's where it always goes wrong. It doesn't understand human nature. So you can argue all you want about where socialism ends and where communism begins, but honestly, that's like, hey, kids, memorize the date of this war. Why? Why? I'm never going to use that fact again. I. What difference does it make? The thing we should care about is why was that war fought? What happened at the end of that war when communism and socialism, we should be saying, where does that road lead? I can tell you that the road always begins with the state controlling your choices, okay? It'll control your choice of energy, money, your children's education, your speech, your job, what you drive. And it always ends with never greater liberty. It always ends the same place. In a society that has forgotten that freedom is fragile, that power concentrates, that people are the same over and over and over again. Human beings, they go bad, especially when you give them power. When they're told they're part of a grand collective, humans are willing to commit horrors they would never do as an individual. That's the biggest thing. You get these horror shows of 100 million dead because it's a collective. We're all doing it. I'm not doing it. Everybody's doing it. That's the warning that's historical and we ignore it at our own peril. Now the problem here is, is that socialism is on the rise and communism will be next. Remember when I started, first started talking about Obama, they. I was, I was raked across the roll of the Ro. The Kohl's every day for even suggesting he might kind of like socialism. Now socialism is fine. So that road is still going. We're going to continue rolling down that road. And any country that goes into socialism, we're not talking about a capitalist. We're not talking about Sweden anymore. In fact, we are actually talking about Sweden. Look at, look at the road they're going down now. I mean they're, they're going into their own kind of authoritarian rule with Sharia law that is coming to Sweden. We're not talking about this friendly socialism. We're talking about the complete abandonment of the free market entirely. We've been this stupid little hybrid that doesn't work. It only causes misery. We've been this hybrid and it doesn't work in a country this large and a country this diverse. But look, if you're, you know, if you grew up after 9, 11, where have you seen capitalism work for you? Okay, You've seen. I know, I've seen it. I've seen the rich get richer. And I don't mean the rich. I mean the really, really, really, really rich. The ones that the Democrats never actually talk about. They say they hate the rich. The rich have to pay their fair share. But they're hanging out with George Soros, they're hanging out with the Ford foundation, they're hanging out with Bezos and all of these other people because that's, that's, that is real control. Okay? They don't hate those guys. They never do anything to affect their taxes. They don't pay taxes because they have the money to put it into trusts and everything else. You don't have that. So when I say I've seen it happen, I've seen the rich get richer. You know who the rich are? Citibank. These banks that have been taking our money through bailouts. When do we get that money back? When do you get that money back? You don't. You don't. That's why this is working. That's why you can say socialism is neat. Because nobody knows the killing machine that socialism actually is. Nobody has any idea. Look at the killing machine. Look at the Killing machine that's being built in socialist Canada right now. What is it? Maid is the third or fourth biggest killer. It kills one in every 20 Canadians. Why is that happening? That's not out of compassion. That's because they're running out of money for health care. That's what that's about. Get them off the dole. Stop it now. If they're earning a lot of money, get them in, because we can still get their money. But let's make sure they're making money. If, if they're getting old, if they are cripple, if they fought in a war and just can't handle it themselves, if they're super, super young, if they've got an expensive cancer, let them die. Help them die. That, that's because they're looking at the collective, not the individual. And that's, that's the beginning of the dark killing machine in a socialist country. And Canada is, you know, I mean, it has socialized medicine. The problem is it's all failing. Socialism always fails. Capitalism has, has taken people out of poverty, solved problems, healed people, given people heat and houses and cars and airplanes. All of that is because of the free market. All of that is the free market. You get rid of the free market, you put it in the hands of governments and you have monsters. Monsters. And we know it because we've seen it over and over and over again. But our, if you were, if you, if, if you don't remember or barely remember, 9, 11, you've never been taught any of this. You've never been taught what it actually means. So you're seeing this play out over and over again. Look at that guy. I mean, look at, he's not going to have to pay a price. He's just going to get away with it. And he's taking our tax dollars. Okay? I hate all of that. This capitalist system, it's corrupt. You're seeing that play out in real time. You're not seeing anybody actually go to jail for these things. Of course you think that it does. I don't think it works the way it is right now. But then you're, you're given this false utopian promise without any information. Read the warning label on socialism. Where has it ever worked? Show me where it has worked. And don't say Sweden. Sweden, Sweden is falling apart right now. You know why? Because Sweden, everybody was blond hair, blue eyed. They all, they were all related to each other. It was a small little country. You can do it. When everybody is the same and it's small, it'll work in to some degree, but the minute you start going diverse, the whole thing falls apart. So you want to be Sweden? Go ahead, look at Sweden today. I don't want to be Sweden. Read the warning label. That's our job, to show that warning label. It's our job to teach what's not being taught. This is a death cult. Stay away from it. Warning. Warning. Pain doesn't always arrive like a lightning strike. Sometimes it just creeps in. A stiff shoulder here, a sore knee there, and before you know it, you're living a smaller life than you used to. You start saying, I don't know, maybe tomorrow things will be easier. And deep down you wonder, is this how life is going to be from now on? It doesn't have to be like that. Relief Factor was created by doctors to help your body fight the inflammation that causes those aches and pains in the first place. And it's a daily supplement that works naturally. No drugs, no quick fix, just supports your body's own healing process. Millions of people have found relief this way, not by numbing the pain, but actually tackling what's behind it. Imagine waking up and realizing, wow, I'm not thinking about my pain first thing in the morning. Imagine saying yes again to the hike, to the project, to the weekend with the family. Family. That's what Relief Factor is all about. Giving you your life back. You can give their three week quick start a try for only 1995. Visit relieffactor.com relieffactor.com or call 800, the number four relief that's 800, the number four relief relieffactor.com now back to the podcast. This is the Best of the Glenn Beck Program. John Solomon is with us. He is the CEO and editor of Glen In Chief of Just the News. If you don't check that every day, you are really missing out on a great news site. Just the news.com John I have made a promise to my audience a long time ago. I do my best not to waste their time. And as I am looking through the things I want to talk to you about, I have to start with this question. Is any of this going to mean anything in the end? Or is this. Are we just spinning our wheels and wasting our time talking about how deep this scandal with James Comey is becoming?
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That is a great question and I don't think history has answered it yet. It will really depend on the tenacity and the focus of the Justice Department, the prosecutors and the jurors that are going to catch these cases. Right. Are they willing to rise above politics and say, we don't want an FBI that goes after people based on their political color, not the quality of the evidence against them. And that is what began in 2015 on James Comey's watch. A different type of FBI that seemed to go after Donald Trump and his associates, regardless of evidence, and protect Democrats like Hillary Clinton and Hunter Biden, even though the evidence against them was pretty strong, as we ultimately found out from the IRS whistleblower. So we don't know yet. Listen, these are going to go to trial if the judge lets them go to trial. The judge in the Comey case seems to be giving the prosecutors a hard time there already. But that's going to be litigated by going to go up to the appeals court and the Supreme Court. These are going to be long battles. But the question for everyone, is the fight worth it? I think if you don't punish the people that created this mentality, you have definitely America for a long time Banana Republic prosecution arc. And I think that's not what Americans want. They want to be able to say the FBI is above politics. It hasn't been in the last decade, until maybe the last few months that they're Cash Patel.
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Okay, so let's talk about what the new evidence is. The burn bags, the hidden rooms, and the evidence that now has been found that shows Comey looks like he was lying to Congress when he said, no, I didn't know anything about it.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So let's remind what people what the alleged lie is, what he's been accused of and indicted of lying. He, he told Congress in 17 and then reaffirmed unequivocally in 2020, that he never asked any of his staff to anonymously leak or provide information to the news media, the government. Cash Patel found significant documents that go to the contrary. Found these under John Durham, but they chose not to go after James Comey. So in the Bill Barr administration, they knew the same evidence and they didn't go after him. But what is, what is the lie he told Congress? I didn't. I. Two things. One, I never authorized anyone to leak to the media anonymously about the Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump cases. And two, I don't think I knew anything about a intelligence intercept that Hillary Clinton was setting up a fake Russian collusion hoax that we then ended up investigating. Well, what we now know first is that his own emails with his own top lieutenant, Daniel Richmond, a former lawyer who he brought in as a special government employee of the FBI. So he's An FBI employee show that James Comey told Richmond, good job and make them wiser as he was briefing them on how he was anonymously trying to spin the New York Times and provide information to the New York Times about the Hillary Clinton case. So directly on point to the testimony he gave, I didn't authorize him to leak about Hillary Clinton and her emails show his guy was leaking and he was affirming it and say, go ahead, and even encouraging him to make that reporter wiser. In other words, give them more information anonymously. So that's the first second lie.
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Right.
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And by the way, a grand jury bought that evidence and said, we believe you lied. Now, there's a second piece to it, and that is the. What we call the Clinton plan. Intelligence. Was Comey, as John Brennan claimed and as other evidence showed, Did Comey know? Did he pay attention? Did he have some awareness that as FBI was starting to investigate the Russia collusion ruse, the hoax that Hillary Clinton had been intercepted, or her people have been intercepted showing that she approved the plan to create this hoax? He said, doesn't ring true. Me, I don't think I knew about it. Well, in a. In a locker, in a burn bag, they found some handwritten notes of James Comey that appeared to include the briefing from John Brenning where he clearly knew that Hillary Clinton had been intercepted approving or her team had been intercepted saying she approved this plan to hang a fake Russian shingle on Donald Trump's campaign house. Now, those are handwritten notes. His notes, yeah.
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That is in his handwriting that he clearly understood. And so now you've got him on two really significant lies that show that this whole thing was. It was. They were in collusion with one another and all of this was bogus, and they knew it from the beginning.
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Yeah, that's exactly right. And that's why, you know, when you look at this and then take. Let's take the third back of this. Those notes were never produced in earlier subpoenas to Congress or other investigations. They were found in a room where it appears, according to the government, there was an effort to get rid of or hide this evidence. So it had been hidden from prior subpoenas, according to the government, according to Lindsey Halligan's prosecutor. And then two, it looked like they were in burn bags and almost burned, meaning they would never be there. Now, some other people said, oh, well, there's electronic records of it. It turns out, according to the government, there was no electronic record of the notes, meaning if they had been burned or destroyed or Hidden, we would never have had them. Now, why would James Comey want to lie about this? Because as we see in these same emails, it appears he had a motive. His motive, as he wrote his colleague, is I fully expect to be working for President elect Hillary Clinton. He's talking this way. Before the election in 2016, he thought Hillary was going to be his boss. And as he wrote Dan Richmond, he said, I think Hillary Clinton will be quote, unquote, pleased by the way I handled her email case. In other words, he deep sixed it in July, he reopened it and cleared her a second time. And when the smoke cleared, Hillary would like him and keep him on his FBI director. That is the insinuation of those notes. So if he was in that.
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I want to give the exact, I want to give the exact phrase. He wrote a President Elect Clinton will be very grateful.
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Yeah, grateful. I'm sorry, you're right. You're right, grateful. So he expected that to be the outcome. If that's his mindset in the fall of 2016 and he opens up an investigation on Hillary Clinton, what we now know to be a ruse, bad evidence, an agency had to lie to the FISA court to get the FISA warrants. If his motive was that or his thinking was that he probably is not going to want to admit that. I was warned that maybe this was all a joke before I allowed this investigation to go forward, before I affixed my name to a Fison warrant that the courts have now said was misleading, false and violated the law. So that is the context of which the prosecutors are going to try to bring this, this case. Now, it's going to be in Northern Virginia where there are a lot of federal workers and a lot of anti Trump sentiment. Can they get a conviction? We don't know. But is it worth trying to do it? Most people I talked to say yes, because the alternative is you have, by inaction, sanctioned it, which is what Bill Barr and John Durham did by not bringing this prosecution in 2020.
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Yep. All right, can I switch topics? There's something that came out today. James Comey's daughter and the Epstein case. Apparently James Comey's daughter sent a message to Epstein that if you don't even have to prove it, but if you can show us anything that ties Donald Trump to this, it's gonna go a lot easier for you. Can you give me this story?
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Yeah, I seen it. I've not been able to corroborate this. I'm always in this world of media. Today, I try to be super Careful, because it's hard to know if things are true or true to dig in. I haven't found anyone yet who seems to know the proof on it. It's possible. Who knows? I mean, prosecutors make these sort of deals all the time. And as we know, it seems in the last decade or two, I think, when you got to go back to the era of the Ted Stevens prosecution, the IRS pursuit of conservative groups, and maybe the prosecution, which turned out to be malicious and Wrong, of Virginia Governor McDonnell, there is a culture that began at the beginning or around the time of the Obama era, where winning for prosecutors more important than winning fairly or on the strength of the evidence. And that's why these cases ultimately got overturned. That mentality exists in the Justice Department. And then when you add the nature of politics, the Trump derangement syndrome that seems to come in in 2015, you have a very dangerous prosecutorial and law enforcement system that's easily weaponized and can easily cheat. And unless you got multimillion dollar lawyers, you're probably going to get hosed because very few people are going to find the grounds to overturn this. And that is the crushing power of the state that Jim Jordan talks about, Chuck Grassley talks about that Donald Trump wants to reform. And I don't know in this case whether Mrs. Comey did, Ms. Comey did this, or not yet, because I can't find anyone that can confirm yet. But if I do, I'll come back to you. But the scenario that's described does go on, and we've seen it, and it's very, very troubling. There's a case coming up soon in New York where the SEC has to admit that there were journalists writing fake stories that then were used to justify investigations of companies, some of them conservative. This system of cheating to get a consequence, regardless of whether it's warranted, is something we all got to take a deep breath and start to really fix. We got to fix it, or we're not going to be any different than Venezuela and Iran.
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I will tell you that I'm so glad to say that you said I can't confirm this. I haven't found a source to confirm it because when I read that story, it looks as though one of the people that is telling this story is the guy who is in jail with Epstein, who would also have motive for making something like this up. So, you know, I don't want to exonerate her and I don't want to condemn her. I just want the truth. And he doesn't seem Like a reliable source.
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Yeah, I think we gotta go get the evidence and try to see if it's true. Listen, it's a lead. It's something that someone has said. Let's check it out. And true, find out if it's true. We learned that Russia collusion wasn't true. I think we're going to learn that most of Ukraine impeachment wasn't true. And I think today we just got to dig in first, get the facts. But we will, we will do that, I promise. I'll get back to you as soon as I know what I can find out from the government. Yeah.
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Thank you, John. I appreciate all your hard work. John Solomon from Just the news, go to JustTheNews.com, follow him. John Solomon, Jay Solomon reports on X. But he is an old school journalist, investigative reporter who's worked for everybody until everybody was like, you can't say those things. That's our side. And then he just left and did his own thing. And I'm very grateful for it. Editor in chief and CEO of Just the News, John Solomon.
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This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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Padroketa is with us now. He is the attorney general from Indiana and Leanne o' Neill is the chief of legal affairs for the America First Policy Institute. They are the people that are the head of this story and the lawsuit. Todd. Leanne, thank you so much for joining me.
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Hey, Glenn, great to be with you. And I'll have it have to tell my staff to work on those press release headlines so you're better interested next time.
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Well, I mean, you're kind of bearing the head. You know what I can't believe, I can believe that there are schools this out of control, but not so out of control that they block a dad from picking up his own son. Can you tell me what happened?
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Yeah, I sure can. And I'm sure glad to have Leanne with us on this lawsuit. You know, of course, AFPI is the a policy arm, policy more than a think tank, an action take that's associated with the policies of President Trump. So we couldn't be more grateful. But what happened here? Think about this. Remember, Kristi Noem had the voluntary deportation opportunity. Now this is an opportunity that's been in statute before Kristi Noem, before President Trump. But it's never really been utilized as much as this administration has. And so this father, recognizing that he was not in compliance with the law, decided to say, you know what, I'm going to take advantage of this opportunity so I can maybe Come back the right way one day, need to go get my son at school and went to try to. Went to the school to try to get his kid and the school obstructed him and then obstructed ICE from assisting as well. So the lawsuit's not just about that. It's about a whole string of policies that we've uncovered, Glenn, that this school system and probably others around the country have in place that keep these kids and keep ICE from doing their job.
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So, Leigh Ann, what is it about this case? Because that's outrageous enough. What else is this school district doing? This is the largest school district, I think, in Indiana. And what else are they doing?
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Yeah, that's right. No, and thank you, Glenn, for having me. And I'm just so, you know, I can't say enough about Attorney General Rakita's courage in enforcing this law. You know, if we don't enforce these laws, we won't have a country. So this is so important. But I'm really glad that you asked that question. You know, the school district has several policies in place that directly violate the state law. And, you know, one is that the schools can't implement policies that make it difficult for employees to follow federal immigration law or to cooperate with federal immigration officials. And of course, that's what happened here. Additionally, the law prohibits local government agencies from having policies that restrict the ability to collect information about immigration status. So, you know, the Biden administration unleashed 400,000 unaccompanied minors into this country who are all at grave risk of, you know, unthinkable tragedies and crimes that could be committed against them. And if schools are prohibited from collecting information about students in their own buildings, then it is going to be very difficult, if not impossible, to find those kids and get them back to safety.
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So, Attorney General, you're looking at this. I mean, is this, this is a school district that is deciding that they are against, that they're above the law. I mean, I've seen cities do it, but I've never seen a school district do it right.
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D
And look, these school districts, Glenn, in a lot of ways are just like these Democrat run cities. Now, the Indianapolis public school system is the largest in the state. To the individual teacher's credit. Only half of them are with the union, which I find to be sort of refreshing. I figured that I'll be. But it's really the leadership and it's the elected school board who are all leftists and the leadership who, you know, again, this is part of the Marxist agenda. The parents are subsidiary. They're subservient to these administrators, to the teachers themselves, and they work against the parents. And why do I call this, I'm not being overly dramatic when I call it Marxism, but that's what it does, right? Marxism attacks the family unit, which is the foundation of our free society, Right, These strong nuclear families. So they also do. The school system also does it in another regard too. So it divides the family literally. In this case, you know, the father who wanted to take his son back to their home country. But they have a gender affirming plan, for example, that says, hey, it's a questionnaire that the teachers fill out. This kid is transitioning. Is the parent support for this high or is the parent support for this low? Oh, it's low. What do we have to do to make sure that the transition isn't obstructed is basically what the form asks for. So it's this division in keeping out of parents and basically the state's assumption of our greatest asset from God, which is our, which is our children. And so that's what's wrong here. That's what's at the core of all of this, that the family and the parents don't have the authority or the rights that they're supposed to have in a free society like America.
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B
It's amazing that they are protecting, they're not protecting the family. But I mean, you know, let me take it from where Leanne was. I mean, Ms. 13, child traffickers, I mean, they seem to be protected here.
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E
That's exactly right. I mean, they're again with the policies that refuse to allow cooperation and, you know, sharing information about illegal immigration status is just like a welcome mat for, you know, the hordes of dangerous criminals, even high school age students who could be in these schools. And now, you know, the actions of this school district have prevented ICE from being able to determine that.
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B
Do you have any, Attorney General, do you have any, anything to add on what's happening with, you know, child trafficking or MS.13 in these schools?
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D
Well, that's exactly what the, you know, whether it exists or whether they're having the atmosphere or the environment so that it can exist in the future. That's what the parents and the taxpayers have to watch out for. I mean, let's not forget your listeners, Glenn. We all are paying for these schools and we're, we're forking over this money, we think, to somehow educate our kids when they're being either groomed or indoctrinated to, and the school is working against us. I mean, that's the most frustrating thing. But yeah, this could be a very dangerous, safe safety issue here. So I guess the bottom line for me, Glenn, is, and I know your listeners and you talk so much about Congress and I was a congressman for eight years. I'm here to tell you that the sun does not rise and set at Congress. I mean, modern days like today, they can't tie their shoes. Look to your attorneys general, look, those are important races. And as you see from this lawsuit and the other things that we do, we can actually move the needle. So that's where listeners have to invest their time.
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B
Was there any law broken by holding this child away from the parents?
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D
Well, yeah. I mean, what this lawsuit's about is the fact that they are harboring a sanctuary jurisdiction. They are create, they have created a sanctuary jurisdiction here which is against the law of the state of Indiana. We have a pretty strong very good by Senator Eric Cook, a very good anti sanctuary city, anti sanctuary jurisdiction law in the state of Indiana. And we contend that's been a violation. Now that's a civil matter. Whether or not a crime has been committed in the state like Indiana, that's completely the jurisdiction of a local prosecutor. I can tell you where IPS is located in the city. This is a Soros backed prosecutor. So nothing's going to happen in that regard.
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B
Leanne, consequences for the rest of us if this doesn't go the right way.
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E
Well, it's, you know, a complete breakdown of the law and the rule of law. If this is continued to allow, if this is continued to go on, you know, the Indiana representatives passed this law and Attorney General Kita is enforcing it. And that is what is demanded of the leaders in the states right now. And I think it's just so incredible that he's taken this step in filing this lawsuit and holding this school district accountable. Because if we don't protect our schools in states where we have very good statutes that require that, then we will not have a country any longer.
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B
The chief legal affairs officer from America First Policy Institute, you can find them at america first policy.com Leanne O' Neill and the Indiana Attorney General, Todd Rokita. Guys, thank you. We'll be following the case. Appreciate it.
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D
Thanks.
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B
You bet. Bye. Bye. Can you imagine still going into school and, and the school district saying you can't pick up your kids? No, no, I cannot imagine that. Especially when you're like, I want to pick up my kid because I want to come back to America and have the chance to come the right way. You're stopping me. You're gonna make me even more of a criminal. And they won't let you have your kids. My gosh. I'd lose my mind. Yeah, I'd lose my mind.