Jonathan Turley (3:33)

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Glenn Beck (3:39)

Professor Toorling, welcome. How are you?

Jonathan Turley (3:43)

How are you?

Glenn Beck (3:44)

I am great. It is great to have you on Your book. Ragin Republic is fabulous. It's just really, really good. How would the founders have looked at the situation in Iran?

Jonathan Turley (4:00)

Well, they would not have looked kindly upon it. You know, the framers divided the power over war between Congress and the President. And So under Article 2, Section, Article 2, Section 2, the President declared the commander in Chief. But under Article 1, Section 8, Congress alone may declare war. So the framers wanted to make it difficult to go to war. They didn't like foreign entanglements and they divided the power accordingly. The problem is that we haven't had a declared war since World War II. And the Congress has largely evaded its responsibility by passing resolutions, the authorization of the use of force. And the courts have largely deferred to the political branches. So in looking at this issue, part of the question is, is the President acting according to established authority? The answer is, yeah, I mean, in the sense of the interpretation, the modern interpretation of the Constitution. Not quite if you look at the original intent. But there's no question that he is using the authority used by past Democratic presidents, including President Barack Obama. I mean, I've actually been somewhat amazed by the comments of people like Nancy Pelosi. Senator Blumenthal, I represented members of Congress opposing the Libyan war unilaterally launched by Barack Obama. There was no claim of a threat against the United States, imminent or otherwise. It was a regime change attack on the capital city, on the Libyan military. We lost that case. But at the time, Pelosi said no authorization is required for President Obama. And Blumenthal actually praised the unilateral attack. Both of them have come out this week expressing horror at the thought that a president can commit this type of attack.

Glenn Beck (6:14)

So here's what I want to ask you. You know, it's my understanding, I know I'm oversimplifying this, but it is my understanding under current, the current reading of war powers, the president has to file the paperwork and say to Congress, I've notified you early, I'm filing this paperwork. We are engaged now in hostilities. And he has 60 days. Right. But he can then say at the end of 60 days, I need another 30, so he can actually go 90 days before they actually have to do anything. But the problem has been not a single president has ever filed the paperwork. And Congress doesn't insist on the filing of the paperwork. So the clock never starts, correct?

Jonathan Turley (7:00)

Well, that is a part of the problem. The War Powers act has always been contested by both Democratic and Republican presidents. Some of the restrictions on a president in carrying out these types of initial combat operations has run against the grain of Article 2. And presidents have said, you cannot require us to go through these steps. You have the right to declare war. But presidents have always asserted the right to respond to what they consider to be threats to the national security. And courts have largely deferred to presidents in that sense and deferred to Congress in taking steps. So. But taking the War Powers act at its phase, 60 days is ample, very likely for this operation. And that's the reason why today you have Senator Kaine and others putting forward a war powers resolution to cut that period down and to say, we hereby order you to stop all combat operations in Iran. The problem with that is it's a tough sounding resolution until you get to the final line. And the final line says nothing in this section restricts you in dealing with imminent attacks. Well, every attack now is imminent. Every attack we launch is preemptive. I mean, the Iranian government is firing missiles randomly at other. So the question is, what does this resolution even do?

Glenn Beck (8:39)

And can't the president veto this anyway? I mean, he could pass both the House and the Senate and then get to his desk and he can veto it, can't he?

Jonathan Turley (8:47)

Right. And the other thing is that it just, I don't even think it will pass. I think the interesting dynamic here on the Hill is to see how many of these members are willing in the middle of combat operations, to say, even symbolically, even though it's sort of a paper tiger, you better stop now. But the other combination with that, the sort of companion to that, is that there's also a vote this week scheduled to fund Homeland Security and tsa. So it'll be very interesting how many of these Democrats, we've already had, some of them come forward, like Murphy and Durbin and others saying, no, we're not going to fund Homeland Security, the Coast Guard, possible TSA until you give us compromises on ice. That is going to be breathtaking if the Democrats maintain that position in the middle of this conflict.

Glenn Beck (9:48)

So it's, so, it's so weird because I am, you know, I don't like the Patriot Act. I don't like any of this stuff. However, two things. The War Powers act, if you want to actually say and make a statement, the President must act with Congress. And it has to be declared every time. The time to do that was two months ago or in two months, hopefully. If this thing is over, you do it when you're not at war. It's completely irresponsible to do it right now. This, the messages it sends to our enemies. The, the, the idea that you're just going to turn this thing off is insane. The same thing with Department of Homeland Security. You can't just do that at the most critical time of Homeland Security because that's how we're, our security is geared. Now you want to dismantle it, I'm all for it, dismantle it, but not now.

Jonathan Turley (10:47)

Is that reasonable, Jonathan, think. Well, I think that's a fascinating thing. Glenn, you're a student of history and you know this as well as I do, that from the very beginning, from Thomas Jefferson, presidents have been able to box in Congress on this power because they have the inherent power to dedicate U.S. armed forces. So presidents have the right to initiate a fight. They simply do. If they judge someone threatening the country, they don't have to wait for anyone. But once that fight has started, it's very difficult for Congress to throw a flag on the play and say, okay, walk away when you're literally in the grips of an opponent. So what these, what Kane is suggesting in this resolution is that as hundreds of ballistic missiles are flying, as attacks are occurring around the world, the US Military is supposed to disengage. And basically it's a choice between fight or flight and it says choose flight.

Glenn Beck (11:49)

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Jason Butrill (13:29)

It's expanding primarily, I think, because you apparently were exactly correct pretty much in everything. And this is from Politico, actually not in so many words. I don't think they said Glenn Beck, but basically they did.

Glenn Beck (13:43)

Right. Okay. But they're expanding also. Not just because I guess I'm correct, we're going to get to that political story here in a second. But also because they're seeing the bigger picture or do you think it's because, because of what is happening on the ground and people getting hit? Why, why is England in France? Why are they involved? Is it because they're seeing the bigger picture?

Jason Butrill (14:10)

So I think that's where it's, it's, it's leading to. The bigger picture is definitely where it's leading to eventually. And it behooves Iran, Iran this a larger conflict because that makes it end quicker in their view to do that. They're striking at Multiple different bases that they say enabled US and or Israel to attack them. So they're looking at places where we might have taken off or sent weapons. So they're looking at specifically for the Brits. They targeted the Royal Air Force base in Cyprus. That is now why the Brits are sending over destroyer. A lot of people are criticizing the Brits for doing this way too late. But it kind of shows you maybe NATO, maybe our supposed. Yeah, it's useless.

Glenn Beck (14:55)

Look, you know, here's the thing about Europe and you need to understand this. If you're going to take on Islam, you are not. NATO is not going to be an ally. They're not. They have to, they have to placate because they are overrun with Islamists, not just Muslims, Islamists. And they know this means trouble on the streets. And so they're not going to be able to take clear stance. They're just not. It's why NATO, we got to get out of NATO. We just have to get out of NATO. But stay with me. By the way, if you're a new listener or haven't joined us for a while, thank you for checking in with us. Jason Butrill is my chief researcher, has been chief researcher for over a decade, I think now. And he does something called the Torch Insider show, which happens during this show when I go into break and reset for the radio show. He's giving more information that I just don't have time to fit into the show. So you get a really full look of the day's news. But stay with me here, Jason, because I want to go through this Politico article and maybe you can help go through some of this. I'm just going to read the article. President Donald Trump's latest attack on Iran takes a big economic bite out of one of America's chief rivals, China. I told you yesterday that if you didn't understand the big picture, you're not going to. Everybody was arguing about whether we should go into Iran or not and what this means for Iran, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I said the Iranian part of it is very important. But if you don't understand crink China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, that that axis power is called Krink. If you don't understand that and what this is going to do to Krink and that axis power, you don't understand the big vision of what Donald Trump is doing now. Listen to what Politico said now. Over the span of two months, Trump administration has removed the leaders of two countries that both shared. China as one of Their most important crude oil customers. Although China buys oil from all nations across the Middle East, Iran was second only to Saudi Arabia as its supplier last year. Almost all of Iran's exported oil and more than half of Venezuela's went to China last year, which remained one of the only purchasers of goods from the two heavily sanctioned nation. The two countries combined represent. Listen to this. 17% of China's overall oil purchases, a meaningful share for the world's largest importer of crude oil. By the way, they're very green. Did you hear what that, what, what the news is between Venezuela, which I told you when we went into Venezuela, this is all about Russia and China. It's not about Venezuela. It's about taking this hemisphere and kicking Russia and China out. I told you on that day, Cuba is going to fall. They're not going to get the Russian support. It's going to fall because he's taking this hemisphere back. Donald Trump is. And this is going to hurt them when it comes to oil. Then I told you last week, did you see what happened with India? India was going after the Shadow Fleet. What is the Shadow Fleet? Those are all of the oil tankers that, that are out, that are not supposed to be out that are taking sanctioned oil and shipping it over to China. Well, India is now going after the, the Shadow fleet. Yes, as of last week, he has taken the eye out of brics. BRICS was Brazil, Russia, India, Chile. No, what was the other one? China and I don't know. Anyway, but they were the ones that were coming up and saying we're going to have a secondary monetary system, we're going to have a new BRICS dollar that will compete against the US Dollar. Well, India was the one who came up with that. India last week has switched sides and they're coming over with us. So India is going after the Shadow Fleet. We shut down Venezuela and now we're shutting down. We're shutting down Iran and their oil. That's 17%. What is the one thing that we cannot happen, cannot have happen here in the United States? Especially if you want to be strong with AI. What is it? You can't lose energy. You have to have the energy to be able to fuel the processing centers for AI. They're losing 17% of all of their oil. That's remarkably bad for China now. So, you know that is going to make China more aggressive. It's also going to make Russia more aggressive, possibly North Korea more aggressive. However, they are not doing anything to help Iran right now. Why? Because Iran is saying we're going to shut down the Straits of Hormuz. You can't shut down the Straits of Hormuz if you're China. You cannot afford that because you just lost 17% of your oil. If you shut down the Straits of Hormuz, you lose all the oil from Saudi Arabia and the UAE and Oman, you lose all of it. They cannot afford to have that happen. That's why China is not going to get involved as we take out the Iranian navy, because we want it to be open as well. So China, strangely, China, is on the same side of the United States when it comes to Russia. I'm sorry, when it comes to Iran closing down the Straits of Hormuz. This is a remarkable, remarkable thing. Brent crude oil began trading, opening on Sunday, $81 a barrel. That's a 12% jump from last week's closing price. OPEC says they're gonna boost oil production starting in April by 206,000 barrels a day. I wrote down. Yeah, so you know, they're going to increase 2006 barrels a day. 5 billion barrels. 5 billion barrels a day are coming from Iraq, UAE, Oman, and Saudi Arabia to China through the straits of Hormuz. 5 million barrels a day. So when they say we're gonna. We're gonna increase by 206,000 barrels a day, that's nothing. That is absolutely nothing. Jason, can you take me through some of these charts? I can barely see them. My. My screen is way too small here.

Jason Butrill (22:20)

Yeah, sure. Producer Matt, you want to throw this up here really quick? That's. Or they might have a better version of that. Oh, yeah, that's. That's probably the better one over at the regular stream. Yeah, you've got 1.2 million coming from Iraq, 395,000 from Kuwait, 1.5 million from Saudi Arabia. That goes on Qatar, UAE, Oman. All of this effectively stops. And as you pointed out, the IRGC pretty much effectively closed the Strait of Hormuz, or in their eyes, they said, any tankers going through will be fired upon. We're going to do our best to stop that. And it hasn't stopped all traffic coming out of the Straits of Hormuz. But this has always been Iran's big ace in the hole. And you can see what they're doing specifically with China, as you're pointing out, because the strategy is to shut the Straits down and whatever conflict is happening, that will get enough international support to say, guys, enough. Stop it. There is too much pain on the rest of the world. You need to stop whatever conflict you're in. That's Iran's strategy here. Specifically. It's a big signal to China to get involved. They want China involved. They want diplomatic, economic, I guess they would love military as well, but that's not going to happen. But they're looking for some kind of intervention to happen from China.

Glenn Beck (23:34)

But what is their. I mean, how could they possibly say we're going to mine? Because that's what they're talking about. The Strait of Hormuz is very, very narrow. It's like this little elbow, and so it's very, very narrow. And they want to mine that whole strait right there. How is China going to be supportive of something like that? They cannot have the Straits mined. We are saying, let's take out all of the Iranian navy so they can't mine the Straits of Hormuz because we agree with China. That has got to remain open. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Mr. Roger Love, who has played a really wonderful role in my life for a long time. He, we met probably 15 years ago. We were introduced through premier radio networks because I have a really weird set of vocal cords that are pretty wussy, and I can blow them out at any time. And he is a guy who doesn't say, no, no, whisper. He says, don't whisper. Let's get through this. And I have gone from absolutely not being able to speak to full voice in 15 or 20 minutes with this guy. And he has done it with Elton John when he was having problems, and Beyonce and everybody who's anybody. He used to help Rush Limbaugh, and he's helped everybody. And he has become a very dear friend. He is one of the nicest guys I know. And we were talking last summer about something else, and I said, you know, Roger, I'm starting something called the Torch, and one of my goals is to just show inspiration, be able to show people making it, living their dreams, conquering things they never thought that they could conquer. And he said, you know, I can help people who stutter. I don't remember how we got into that, but he said, I do lots of things, and I can help people stop stuttering. And I'm what? And I said, well, why don't we start a little documentary series, run about a half hour called Find your voice. And when we find somebody who you can help find themselves and walk into their real voice and change their lives. Let's do that. And so the first find your voice on torch@glenn beck.com is about a guy in Tampa who, bless his heart, man, has stuttered his whole life. And he had a hard time finding friends, love life, everything else. And working with Roger two days and then doing a lot of work on his own, his life changed. And it was so cool to watch because you could see, you could see happiness and joy in his eyes. By the time it was over, he had a totally different view of life. It was so cool. You can see that mini doc@glennbeck.com torch it's called find your voice. Roger joins me now. Hello, Roger.

Roger Love (26:42)

Good morning. You look very handsome today.

Glenn Beck (26:45)

Well, thank you very much. And you look, well, like it's early in the, in the west coast. I mean, thanks for putting on pajamas. No, I'm kidding. So. So, Roger, you we, you said to me when I called you up and I said, I have something that I'd love to do. I'd love to find somebody who is not a professional singer but has always wanted to sing no matter what their age. And I need three singers for this major event on May 2nd at the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island. And I said, can you, if we find some people, can you help them get there and knock it out of the park? And you were, you're so amazing. You're like, absolutely. That's that we can do that. When my eyes closed, Roger, at first the con, the contestants started coming in slowly and I was a little worried. I don't know if you've seen the last batch that's come in over the last few days, but there are, I mean, from kids who are 15 years old to this, I don't even know how old she is, but mom of four, you know, mom that is also a, you know, started her own business and everything else. Not a professional singer. To somebody who has done some professional singing all the whole range. And Roger, you are going to be able to, I mean, you're gonna, you're gonna change somebody's life when they're finished with you and they're singing there. I think it's gonna be game changing for them. Have you seen some of them?

Roger Love (28:25)

Absolutely. The submissions are so. They're so genuine. These are people that have found their voice and they're all ages, the 14, 15 year old, so authentic, so passionate about singing. The mother of four who started a business, like you said, beautiful voice. Yeah. I'm going to tweak it. But the bottom line is that these are people that love to sing and have already realized the import of voice in their life. This is an amazing opportunity. What we are missing is we haven't had enough submissions of men. So look, as a voice coach, I realize more women sing than men. I don't know why that is. Women are more prone to learning, but I really want to make sure that we have enough men. We need a man who, who wants to showcase his voice too. So we could definitely use more submissions of men. Again, you don't have to be the most incredible singer on the block. You just have to have a voice and a passion. And I'll tweak it. You have to love to sing. You have to want to be part of something that's historic.

Glenn Beck (29:42)

You know, one of the things that I have found interesting is all of the submissions that I have seen so far. And it's weird. Most of them are connecting with the song in French. So they must. These people, I'd have to know because they sing it so well. They must have spoken French to begin with. I don't know. But they all say the minute I heard this song, it connected with me so deeply that it's just. It's part of me. Almost all of them are saying something like that. And that's how you know it's really going to be good. Because it's not just somebody just singing a song. It is. It is going to be people who are connected deeply to the message. I mean, I would have a hard time singing it, not just bursting out in tears, standing in front of the Statue of Liberty, singing some of these things. You know, first time I heard the

Roger Love (30:33)

songs, the first time I heard the songs, so beautiful, I was moved. I think we're getting more people who speak French because people don't always like to compete and, and, and there they have special skill sets. So they're hoping that the, their ability to speak French moves them up the ladder. But we're, yes, looking for someone that speaks French, but not just that. We're really looking for someone who has a passion to sing and wants to showcase it.

Glenn Beck (31:01)

It's really weird because the ones that I think the songs that I thought would be the easiest are the. Is the song that is more contemporary. You know, they came for the hope and it's very contemporary. Almost a, Almost a. In some ways, almost a Phineas kind of sound. And, and it's weird because that's the one. Especially with men. We're not getting as many submissions and you can hear all of the songs and, and then record them. Please don't write to us and say, hey, I know somebody. Tell them this is a merit based contest. If they can't get on and do it themselves, then, you know, I can't help you. They got to put in the effort and record the song. So, Roger, what exactly are we looking for in a man? Is there anything that you know? What are we looking for?

Roger Love (31:57)

We're looking for a man that's in our family because. Because we want to. We want to stay within. We want to support the people that are in our community. And the female songs are a little bit harder than the male songs. So don't shy away. If you don't think that you have the greatest range in the world, I just say submit yourself. What do you have to lose other than the opportunity to be a part of a historic event?

Glenn Beck (32:30)

You'll have a video at the end that you're. Your grandkids will watch. You know, 50 years from now, your grandkids will watch. Go. Wow. You did that. I mean, nobody gets this opportunity. Believe me, I know because I've been working with the parks department. The rules of what you can and cannot do on that island, those two islands is phenomenal. So believe me, you'll have an opportunity nobody else has. Roger, can we make a find your voice based on this, too? When we get the contestants, we're gonna start voting next week. The cutoff is this Friday. Can we make a find your voice with you working with them? And are you coming to New York with us?

Roger Love (33:11)

I'm gonna be there, of course.

Glenn Beck (33:13)

Oh, good, good, good, good, good, good.

Roger Love (33:15)

I want to be there. I also want to give a shout out to the thousands of comments we've already gotten from people that have seen the documentary. And they're. They're so loving. People are saying they're either crying happy tears all the way through it or they're laughing while they're crying happy tears all the way through it. So thanks to. Thanks to your family, to your community for embracing the documentary, understanding that we're just trying to help people find their voice and use it to make a better life.

Glenn Beck (33:44)

Real quick. I've only got about 30 seconds. Did you get the note that somebody said, I have a. I think their child had cerebral palsy, and they wanted to talk to you about helping them. And I just. I read this, and I thought, oh, my gosh, that would be so great if we could help. Did you get that note?

Roger Love (34:02)

I did that. I don't remember if it was cerebral palsy, but there some challenge, and I totally responded saying, I'm here for you.

Glenn Beck (34:10)

Okay, good. Well, if you hear back, let me know because I'd love to hear the progress on that. Maybe we can make that a. Find your voice as well. Roger Love, thank you so much. You can find the documentary. Find your voice@glenn beck.com torch. Also, this contest again, the deadline is Friday. And so you have to go to glenn beck.com contest. You'll find the music, the lyrics, how to apply. Please don't tell us about somebody. Tell them about the contest. They've got to actually submit and apply for it themselves. So, Roger, thank you. We'll talk next week as we start going and having the audience vote for who's going to be there. God bless you.

Roger Love (34:53)

See you soon.

Glenn Beck (34:54)

You got it.