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Would it take him pulling the trigger? Is that what would do it? And then you would say, he needs to get out of the race? Abigail, you have nothing to say? Abigail, what if he said it about your two children, your three children? Is that when you would say he should get out of the race? Abigail, you're running to be governor.

Winsome Sears (4:49)

Ms. Earl Sears.

Debate Moderator or Interviewer (4:51)

I mean, we're talking about murder. We're talking about someone's life being taken from them. Have you nothing to say about that? Are you not going to address it?

Glenn Beck (5:03)

Really?

Debate Moderator or Interviewer (5:03)

You can't go any further. You're a governor. You're supposed to stand up for all the people. Are you saying political murder is all right? Have some political courage. What you have done is you are taking political calculations about your future as governor. Well, as governor, you have to make hard choices, and that means telling Jay Jones to leave the race.

Glenn Beck (5:28)

It is one of the most powerful moments I've ever seen in any debate, and I think we've seen some powerful moments in debates recently. Winsome. Earl Sears is with us now.

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (5:40)

Winsome. When she refused to even look at you, was it your guess she would do that, or did you actually think she would respond?

Glenn Beck (5:48)

Because I was dumbfounded by her response.

Winsome Sears (5:53)

No, it occurred to me that she was. I thought she was being cowardice, but then it occurred to me, no, she's being calculating and cunning. Which is worse, because when you look it up, a calculating and cunning politician is one who uses methodologies to turn people against them. They're manipulators, and they're like three, four steps ahead of you. But then, you know, she has former CIA training. And it also says that they show no emotion, and that's who she is. At least if you're a coward, at some point you're going to get a backbone and you're going to say to yourself, my God, I got to do the right thing. But I never saw that in her. She was cold and she was smirking so much. And then, you know, she just adjusted herself. And I'm thinking, this woman can't be governor. She doesn't care about us.

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (6:39)

So what was her calculation on that? How is she planning on spinning that?

Winsome Sears (6:44)

Well, because she's thinking, well, if I tell him to get out of the race, then these folks are going to be angry with me. And if I tell him to stay in the race, and these folks are going to be angry with me. And I didn't, you know, I have planned my life. If you look at her life, she's lived a very careful, a very curated life, a very calculating life. And you can see that she, you know, now I got to do this, and then I got to do this, and then I got to do. I don't know, very many people live that way. I mean, we're all real people around here, and things happen to us, but they never seem to happen to her. She always seems to, you know, just work her way. And I'm thinking, my God, this is. This is. This is something else. She doesn't have the right common sense ideas, and when she knows what the right thing to do, she doesn't take those hits. And I'm telling you, if you're wanting to be governor, you've got to have a backbone. But she's more of a calculating, cunning person.

Glenn Beck (7:38)

It's. It's. That's usually what we get now from the Uber Left is calculation. And they won't tell you who they are until they start enacting, until they have power. When she Was asked about the question about boys being in girls sports. It's another one. She didn't give a yes or no, did she?

Winsome Sears (7:56)

No, she didn't. She just looked and stared off into space as if, you know, I got this, I'm over this. I'm above this. You know, we don't elect our politicians from above us, we elect them from among us. And you need to come back and talk to me, you know, and ask me my opinion. You know, I want to know, do you know me? Do you see me? Do you hear me? Do you want to hear from me? I didn't leave politics for 20 years and come back to be mealy mouthed. That's not what we want. And that's what she is.

Glenn Beck (8:31)

She also wants to make Virginia a sanctuary state on day one. And she doesn't seem to understand the benefit of local police working with the federal government and federal police. Can you explain this?

Winsome Sears (8:45)

Oh, she does. But you see, they're trying to change things and what they do. So she and people like her in politics, they divide the people. They put in policies that, you know, have us at each other's throats so then they can say, see, this is why you need us. And they, you know, ride in like the calvary to come help us. We don't need that. Because if she had stopped the open borders, Fentanyl wouldn't have flowed through and killed five Virginians every week. If she had kept the borders closed, then we wouldn't have had the Chinese communist gangs, we wouldn't have MS.13 and Trendaragua and all those people come through. We wouldn't be now seeing ice, you know, having to do what they're doing to get those who are criminally illegal gone. And so this is their doing. And now they're saying, oh, look how bad ICE is. Do you see what they're doing? But you did it, you started it and now you're on the other side. I'm telling you, this is cunning stuff. You really gotta, you know, think about this hard.

Glenn Beck (9:52)

There is stu, what was the name of that Islamic organization that she was a part of right after September 11th? She was very, very proud of being part of this. And I, I don't know if you know, yeah, school isa school. And I don't know if you're aware of her ties to deep ties to Islamists in Virginia.

Winsome Sears (10:18)

No, I'm not aware. But see, that's the other thing. You know, she's part of a group that, well, there are five schools here who will not protect our Girls from the men coming into the bathrooms, from the men standing full front nude in the locker rooms with girls. And when we talk about these things, they try to make us look like we're the people who don't have any sense when, even when I ask her about her own children, you know, Abigail, what if it's your child who comes and she's crying? What are you going to do then? Silence. Nothing. Nothing. Just cold. Just cold. Who is this woman who wants to be our governor here in Virginia? We can't have her. She's going to destroy our business. You know, we've created so many jobs here. Over 250,000 job openings. Now 276,000 people we've put back to work. We've put in childcare money. We are keeping the right to work so you don't have to be forced to join a union and then drive up wages, which doesn't help anybody. We've gotten rid of 91,000 plus job killing regulations and businesses are coming, the U Hauls are finally coming back to Virginia, stopping here. She doesn't know how to do any of that. She was never here when we were making all these great choices for Virginia. So I don't need on the job training. I have been doing the work. Where have you been, Abigail? Oh, in Congress making decisions against us. Now it was easy, right, when she was one of 400, what, 35 members of Congress. But now she's by herself and she's got to stand on all those decisions she's made. Even Joe Biden in his most lucid moments vetoed a bill that she voted for which kept D.C. where you see the crime as today, she's soft on crime and voted that for, for criminal penalties to be absolutely reduced for the most heinous crimes. That's what she wants to do in Virginia. And don't even talk about energy policy. She has none. Oh, it's solar and wind. And what do we do? What do we do when the sun isn't shining?

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (12:26)

Isn't it? Isn't it actually worse than no energy policy?

Glenn Beck (12:29)

Isn't the energy policy of Virginia pretty much the energy policy of California? Aren't you guys tied together with the California regulations?

Winsome Sears (12:40)

So we were until Virginians put Governor Youngkin and myself and our, and our Attorney General Jason Mears in office and we got us out of there because. Wait a minute, Glenn, you did see that even Gavin Newsom now is suing the oil refineries and the gas industry because they want to leave. They want to leave California You've been against them, Gavin, all this time, you and the other Democrats, and now you're suing them to force them to stay. This is nonsense. None of this makes any sense. And you know, Glenn, here's why this is important, that we have a head on our shoulders. The industrial revolution is still happening. Technological revolution is still happening. I was reading about China two days ago. They have factories in China that don't even have any people. The lights aren't even on because it's all robotic. So while we're trying to figure out who a woman is, they we have moved on. China is going to eat our lunch if we're not careful.

Glenn Beck (13:40)

So what is the big thing that would be the difference between you and Youngkin administration and certainly a Spanberger administration. What's the big thing that you bring to the table?

Winsome Sears (13:55)

Well, we bring a continued success story, and success begets success. And for a long time, Abigail was running on our successes. I mean, we've lowered taxes to the tune of returning $9 billion back to the people of Virginia, even as we kept our AAA bond rating, even as we teacher pay 18%, even as we've been attracting businesses, even as we have decompressed the pay for our law enforcement and Department of Corrections personnel. I mean, even as we've put in new programs to help those who are mentally ill. I mean, we've done so. We put roads and bridge money. We have done so much. And it's because we know how to do this. I mean, I've run my own business. The governor has run businesses. My opponent doesn't know any of this. She would just destroy everything. Put all those regulations back, put all those taxes back, put us back in the greenhouse gas initiative of California. I mean, every single Democrat voted for this green initiative. And you know what it's doing? It's driving up our costs in Virginia. And you've. You probably heard about our energy bills where people are paying $800 a month up to 1600 dollars a month, and winter is coming. This is what the Democrats have given us. And when I'm governor, I'm going to repeal that darned act because it does nothing but drive up costs. We cannot have Abigail. She will destroy everything that we've done.

Glenn Beck (15:26)

You know, I know nobody mentions this and it's not really important. It's not important to me. But it is worth mentioning, at least on the left they'd be running. This is all this campaign would be about. You were the first woman elected to lieutenant governor, the first black woman and female veteran to hold a statewide office in Virginia. You will be the first black woman to be a governor if you win in Virginia. That's pretty remarkable.

Winsome Sears (15:52)

It's remarkable for a country that everybody you know on the left keeps saying is a racist country. You know who said we were not a racist? This country? Biden. And by the way, Kamala said that there was no systemic racism in America. And they said that in 2021. I guess they forgot that little bit later because what, their side wasn't liking that. And I'm from a third world country. Think of this. I am an immigrant, and yet here I sit, second in command in the former capital of the Confederate states. Don't tell me that America is not a great country. And yet we have enough people on the left teaching their children. Glenn. To hate their own country. Their own country. What in the world?

Glenn Beck (16:38)

It's amazing. Winsome, thank you so much. We pray for you. We hope you do really well in the election. How long have the voting, early voting been going on now?

Winsome Sears (16:52)

We've been voting since. No, we're about in our fourth week now. We've been voting since September 19th. Yes. And this is what the Democrats have given us. Open season. And that's why we've got to win. We've got to change things. And by the way, the polls are looking very good. The Trafalgar poll shows that I am 2 down, but its margin of error is 4. So I'm either 2 up or right in the middle. And the Washington Post of all of all newspapers, I would hope that they would tell the truth, but they're showing polls where I'm 13 down and they know it to be a lie. We can't have press like that. This is America. We look to our press to give us truth. Or maybe not.

Glenn Beck (17:34)

Yeah, I was gonna say Washington Post, I kind of given up on, but I appreciate it. Thank you so much. We're gonna talk about the polls here in just a second. Winsome, thank you so much. If you. Where can people go to join your campaign and help you out?

Winsome Sears (17:45)

Yes, she's outraising me four to one. But by the grace of God, we're still standing. I need your help. Winsomeforgovernor.com Winsome F O R governor.com thank you. Thank you, Glenn.

Glenn Beck (17:57)

Thank you. God bless you. Thank you. I just love her. I. I just think she would make a great, great governor. She's really smart, she's business minded, common sense, and. And really has a lot of empathy. I just. I just love her. Let Me tell you about our sponsor. It's Jace Medical. Headlines this week have been a mix of relief and reality. Good news in some places, in chaos and uncertainty still, you know, just one turn away.

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All right, told you about gold here.

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At record highs and it is telling us something.

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Usually it would tell us that the.

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Dollar is in real, real trouble.

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I think, and I am guessing at.

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This now, but I think what this.

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Is telling us is that the whole world, the whole system is in trouble.

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And let me give you an example.

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I'm going to, I'm going to talk.

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To you about something to try to.

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Make sense of it here. But I don't have a good answer because we're not having these conversations. I have told you for almost 20.

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Years when it comes to AI, we.

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (20:10)

Must have these conversations now because the world is going to change overnight. And we are at that point. We are at the point of singularity where there is no turning back. And we haven't had these conversations. Do you want to win the AI war? I will tell you we cannot lose it. But to win it, we may have to sacrifice so much on the altar of liberty that I don't want to fight it. So what do we do? Let me explain. Something has shifted in the world and most people cannot feel it yet. But if you're paying attention, you Understand, there is something on the horizon. One day soon, we're going to wake.

Glenn Beck (20:53)

Up and we're going to realize, oh.

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (20:55)

I think we crossed a line here. Quietly, silently, while no one was paying attention, everything changed over the past few days.

Glenn Beck (21:03)

While the world has been paying attention to what is going on in Israel, in the Middle east, there's a couple of other really important headlines that have caused caught my attention.

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (21:13)

And at first they all seemed unrelated.

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Just random stories from around the world.

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (21:18)

But when you look closer, and this is what I think I do best, I tra. I take things that are seemingly unrelated.

Glenn Beck (21:24)

And say, wait a minute, wait a minute. I think they all fit into this category. So let me give you some threads here.

Eric Dixheimer (21:28)

Here.

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (21:29)

First thread is China. Beijing just tightened its grip on rare earth elements. These are the minerals that make absolutely everything possible. Your smartphone, your electric car, your missile defense system, your refrigerator, everything depends on these rare earth minerals. China, because of our inaction and stupid.

Glenn Beck (21:54)

Policies over the last couple of decades.

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (21:56)

Decades control now 80% of the world's supply chain that cannot stand.

Glenn Beck (22:03)

Now, what they're doing is they're choking it off.

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (22:06)

They are now closing it up and they are threatening the West. No more rare earth, rare earth minerals. If that happens, we cannot defend ourselves. Do we have rare earth minerals? Yeah, we have lots of them, but we're not mining them. It will take a decade to start mining them up in Alaska where they.

Glenn Beck (22:27)

Where they mainly are.

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (22:29)

That's why Donald Trump was saying we need Greenland. That's what he was saying, rare earth minerals. Because they're already mining them there and we cannot lose them now. They're choking it off. And rare earth stocks exploded overnight because whoever controls those minerals controls the future. Now, here's the second thread. The Pentagon, out of nowhere, they made a billion dollar emergency order for those same rare earth minerals. That's not normal. That's not paperwork. That is the sound of a military quietly preparing for something, a shortage, possibly in a storm. Like I said, we are because of what Biden did in Ukraine, we are or wholly unprepared for any kind of military action. We don't have the materials. And at the same time, everything is changing to high tech. We don't have the rare earth minerals and the chips now to make our guided missile systems. The third thread, JP Morgan Chase, one of the most powerful institutions on the planet, government just announced this week a $1.5 trillion investment plan in what they called security and resilience. That's not going to mom and pop shops. That's not going to community loans. That money is being funneled straight into AI defense manufacturing and critical minerals. It's as if the Pentagon and Wall street just linked arms and decided to build a fortress economy together. Then came the fourth thread.

Glenn Beck (24:18)

Nobody paid attention to this one.

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (24:21)

In Europe, the Dutch government just seized control of the Chinese owned chip maker on their own soil. They invoked emergency powers and nationalized the.

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Company to stop the Chinese influence over the semiconductor industry. That's not good.

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (24:39)

Four stories, four continents, four quiet tremors in the ground. When you weave them all together, that's.

Glenn Beck (24:49)

When you begin to understand what all of this means. So let me try to do that.

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (24:54)

The old world as we know it is dying. The world of free markets, the world of open trade, individual enterprise, the world that lifted billions out of poverty is being replaced now slowly but surely by something new. And this one is being done in the name of security. And I don't have an answer for this. This is why we must pay attention and talk about it now. Corporations now are aligning with state power. Before we had the tech industry aligning itself with the government to control speech. This is the government aligning themselves with tech, rare earth minerals, et cetera, et cetera, to be able to win the AI war. This, this, all of this is a single unspoken motive.

Glenn Beck (25:49)

And that is the race to dominate artificial intelligence. This is the new arms race.

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (25:55)

This is the new Manhattan Project, the new nuclear weapon. Except this is a million times more enslaving than nuclear weapons could ever hope to be. Whoever masters this first, whoever gets to AI and AGI first, will control the economies, the information, even your thought itself. Every rare earth mineral, every chip, every line of code. They're all ingredients in that same contest. And the nations are moving fast.

Glenn Beck (26:32)

They're hoarding materials.

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (26:34)

Now there we're beginning to seize companies. They're building walled off supply chains. This is happening on their side and our side. And the free market in this particular place is no longer free. It's being drafted into a digital cold war. Now that sounds bad, but now let me tell you the danger that nobody seems to get when nations go to war. Even an economic war, freedom always becomes a casualty. We tell where, we tell ourselves we're fighting for liberty and we are. Because we don't want to live in a society like China. Right? I don't. But when survival's on the line, governments tighten control for our own good. They regulate, they ration, they censor. And one day you look up and you realize the line between democracy and technocracy.

Glenn Beck (27:36)

Is gone.

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (27:38)

If the, if the west wants to win this AI war, and we must, then we have to have a conversation. Why are we even fighting this war? Because if in winning it, we become China, why not let China just win? If we adopt the same top down control, the same surveillance, the same merger of government and corporate power, then what did we actually win? Didn't we just trade one master for another? The old global system, free enterprise, open markets, individual liberty, it is being rewritten in real time.

Glenn Beck (28:18)

And the threads are now all coming together and they're.

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (28:22)

They're weaving a new tapestry. I don't know what the tapestry looks like. I can guess at what that tapestry tapestry looks like, and I don't like it. Will it be woven from freedom or will it be woven from fear? If we lose sight of who we are. Look, our global leadership, it's already lost.

Glenn Beck (28:44)

Sight for who we are.

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (28:45)

They don't care. They don't care. None of them care. They'll get to this global dominance over the individual one way or another. In their book. You must care. You must stand for freedom. You must be at the head of having this conversation. Because if we lose sight of who we are, it is. This tapestry is going to be strong, efficient, and unbreakable. But it will not be free. And someday historians are going to look back at this moment and they're going, what happened? They're going to see these quiet headlines, these invisible decisions that are being made right now. And they're realizing this is when the new world began. They will be able to look at this point and say, this was it. Why didn't people see it? The answer to that is obvious. We have. We're overwhelmed with everything that we have to do. Everything we're looking at. This has been a very well planned takeover of freedom. You have to ask yourself, when the weaving is done, whose pattern will be? Will we be living in? Because that's what is coming. There's a story in the show prep today that I really want you to read. I'm going to talk to you about.

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It here in a second.

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Western executives who visit China are coming back terrified. You don't have any idea how far China is ahead of us. And you can say, well, I don't want to be China. Well, you will be China. And China will be controlling you if we don't push back. But how do we push back without becoming China?

Glenn Beck (30:37)

This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. Let me bring in Dexter, Dexter Hymer. He is a Houston Chronicle investigative reporter and he has been Reporting on this seemingly crazy story. When you first heard about this, Eric, did you have a hard time believing it?

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (31:04)

Because I know I did.

Eric Dixheimer (31:07)

I did have a hard time believing it, at least the particulars of it. In terms of the general idea that something crazy could happen out in loving county, that was a little more believable. I've been covering the area for a little while, and it's a peculiar spot out in far west Texas.

Glenn Beck (31:22)

Okay, is. Can we rule out one thing? Is any of this? Because it seems to be. When I first heard it, they're saying a lot of black people are moving in. And I'm like, okay, well, maybe that's okay. Maybe that's okay. White people. Is this in any way influenced by race, do you think?

Eric Dixheimer (31:43)

You know, at first blush, it might seem that way, but my reporting didn't really show that. It is true that the group of people moving in is called the melanated People of power refers to their skin color. Most, if not all of them appear to be black. But I also interviewed people in loving county, including some. Some black folks who live there. And, you know, they said that there wasn't anything really racial about what was happening out there.

Glenn Beck (32:10)

Okay, so who are these people that are moving in?

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (32:12)

How is this happening and what are they after?

Eric Dixheimer (32:17)

So they are followers of a guy named Dr. Malcolm Tanner, who's an Indiana resident. And over the summer, he started promoting on his social media platforms this program where that if you moved out to loving county, Texas, you would get a free home and $5,000 a month in free income. And so far, about three dozen people have moved out there.

Glenn Beck (32:43)

And is that a lot for this town? What is the population of this county?

Eric Dixheimer (32:48)

So loving county has about 70 people in all. It has one city called Mentone. So for commissioner seats, those seats that have precincts, you can win with about a dozen votes. If you want to run for. And win as a sheriff or as a county judge, which in Texas is the highest administrative office in a county, you can. You can have that office for, you know, maybe four or five dozen votes. So, yeah, 30 people is starting to build a substantial voting block out there.

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (33:18)

And what is this.

Glenn Beck (33:20)

Who is this guy in Indiana that's doing this?

Eric Dixheimer (33:23)

So he's. He's kind of mysterious. He's a charismatic guy. He has claimed that he started this melanated people of power to, you know, enfranchise folks who typically don't have political or economic power of their own. He claims he's an entrepreneur. He claims that he's a Philanthropist, but really nailing down things about him is pretty difficult. He's got a trail of lawsuits in Indiana against the city of Muncie, against Grant county, having to do with property disputes. He calls himself doctor, but he doesn't identify which institution conferred that degree on him. But as I said, what he does have is a fairly sizable social media presence. And it seems to. His message seems to be speaking to a lot of people, you know, all over the country. The folks who have moved to Loving county have come from Georgia, Mississippi, South Carolina, some within Texas, but really from all over.

Glenn Beck (34:22)

So you don't improve somebody's station in life by giving them free housing and $5,000 a month. You, you create jobs, you. You help them create their own life and their own path. What is his plan other than just continuing to pay for these, you know, these trailers? Because they're mobile homes. Right. So paying for the mobile homes and then the $5,000 a month, that. That's, that's not a plan.

Eric Dixheimer (34:51)

Yeah, I don't know if he has a grand economic plan. You know, what I can tell you is that based on the people who have moved out there and kind of reading it on social media, it's the idea of a free home for someone who can't otherwise afford one or, you know, for whom that seems out of reach, is a pretty powerful lure. Right. And he has said that, you know, if we get enough people out here, we'll kind of, you know, goose industry and bring in businesses. I mean, the truth is that Loving county is, is doing very well for itself right now. It's in the middle of the Permian Basin, which is the big oil and gas producing region of Texas, and they have about you know, say 70 permanent residents. And their budget this year is going to be about $60 million for a little. So a little less than a million dollars per person. You know, overwhelmingly that money comes from oil and gas taxes that they collect. So there's already a lot of money out there. There's, you know, besides oil and gas, there's a couple of support service businesses, you know, some gas stations, one or two restaurants, but not a ton else.

Glenn Beck (35:58)

Okay, so what is the city doing to investigate, to stop this or can they do anything?

Eric Dixheimer (36:06)

Well, one of the really interesting things to me about Loving county is that it does have this very long history of kind of dicey voter registration and voting out there, that there are a couple of powerful families out there. They've been feuding in recent years and to, in order to kind of keep and maintain Power, they've been pretty loose with voter rules. So people who may have moved away from there, you know, years and years ago are still registered to vote there. So the result of that is that there are many more people registered to vote in Loving county than who actually live there. That's a long way of saying that to a lot of people saying that a lot of people who live out there. This is kind of the, you know, the chickens coming home to roost that they've promoted and lived with the system for quite a while. And here's someone who's come in, you know, looking to take advantage of it. So the only thing they can really do is, you know, make sure that all the boxes are checked on the voter registration forms outside of the county. However, there have been some investigations mounted. A couple of state representatives have asked for investigations by the Texas Secretary of State, which is the office that oversees elections here in Texas. There's a US Representative, Chip Roy, who was asked for an investigation. And then yesterday our Attorney General, Ken Paxton, filed a lawsuit asking for a restraining order and also accusing the group of violating a handful of local laws. His purpose seems to be trying to shut it down.

Glenn Beck (37:42)

What do you, where does this end up? I mean, as a reporter, I know you don't report on future news, but where does this lead?

Eric Dixheimer (37:52)

Well, I mean, the most obvious point is that living in Loving county, particularly in the conditions that these folks are living, is pretty difficult. Right. I mean, it's a arid, isolated place. It's very hot out there. There's no trees. It's just a bunch of creosote and caliche and scrubland. And so if they, yeah, it's, it's, it's hard. And there's no services out on this piece of property that Malcolm Tanner has purchased. He purchased two 5 acre plots out there in January and they're, they're about 30 minute drive out, you know, kind of rough oil company roads. Outside of the only town, it's about an hour away from the nearest grocery store. So if your plan is to live out there in these conditions without water, without sewage, without electricity, and you want to run, how are you doing that? Well, they, you know, they haul in water. I think they have some generators out there, they have some RVs that may have their own kind of, you know, temporary power systems. But if your plan is to run for office and the primaries are not until March of next year, that's quite a while to basically camp, you know, in some pretty harsh conditions. So it may resolve itself and people May, you know, people, as you pointed out, are coming from cities and urban areas and they may not be accustomed to the harsh conditions. So it may resolve on its own. There may be the authority of the government, you know, kind of pushing them out through a variety of alleged broken laws. And if that doesn't happen, then it'll be fascinating to see if they actually can win office out there.

Glenn Beck (39:35)

What are you working on next for this story?

Eric Dixheimer (39:38)

I've been following up on the investigations that have been done by the, you know, as I said, the attorney general. I'll be following up the, the district attorney out there is also mounting an investigation. I'm trying to learn some more about Malcolm Tanner, trying to learn some more about the people who have moved out there and what their backgrounds are. And of course, we'll be following the elections, which as I said, are always fascinating. In Loving county, almost every election there is challenged based on residency. So it's a never ending source of news despite the small population.

Glenn Beck (40:13)

You know what it, it reminds me of is the old West. I mean this kind of stuff happened in the old west where the big, you know, the big money would want to change a town and they would bring people in and they would change it and control it. I mean, it really harkens back to the 1800s in some ways, doesn't it?

Eric Dixheimer (40:32)

Yeah, I mean there is an element of, you know, kind of being isolated way out there in the middle of nowhere in West Texas. I mean, even the names of the people. You know, the old time sheriff who is the patriarch of the kind of powerful family there, his name was Punk. And the current county Jones, the current county judges names is Skeet. And yeah, it's, it's a very kind of, it's a place of rugged individuals and I won't say lawlessness, but definitely, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's out there.

Glenn Beck (41:03)

Yeah, it's out there. Eric, thank you so much. Appreciate it. And keep us up to speed on this. We'll be following your stories. Houston Chronicle investigative reporter Eric Dixheim following what's happening in Loving County, Texas. It is so weird, Stu. All the things that are happening in Texas where they are doing everything they can to take Texas and flip it blue. And I'm not convinced that that's what this is. No, you know, I don't know what this is, but it is, it's weird. It's really, really weird.

Eric Dixheimer (41:36)

Yeah.

Podcast Guest or Commentator (41:36)

It reminds me of Wild, Wild country, the, the documentary on Netflix. It was a series that came out A few years ago, where it was a story of what? I can't remember the name of the group off the top of my head, but they went into Washington or Oregon and tried to take over a town. Like the 70s or 80s, maybe. By the way, an incredible documentary. If you've never seen it.

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (41:57)

Incredible documentary, an insane story.

Podcast Guest or Commentator (41:59)

It seems like groups do this every once in a while. Someone, you know, with a big ego or somewhat accused some of these groups as cultish type behavior, like just move into areas and just take them over and try to take over the town council and everything else so they can, you know, run their little thing the way they want to run it. It's. I'm always fascinated by those stories.

Glenn Beck (42:21)

Yeah, I'm not sure what this one is, but people are comparing this with Elon Musk. What's the problem? Elon Musk did this. No, Elon Musk was creating thousands of jobs. Elon Musk wasn't like, I'm going to build you a house and send you $5,000 and you don't do anything for it.

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (42:35)

That.

Glenn Beck (42:35)

That's not what.

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (42:35)

Elon Musk.

Glenn Beck (42:36)

And sending you into a trailer with no services whatsoever. I mean, his town is going to be a model town. Already is a model town in Texas. He's creating something and creating jobs. There's a purpose for people to move there. Here there is no seeming purpose. If you've never been to West Texas.

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (42:56)

Imagine the moon if it was a lot closer to the sun.

Glenn Beck (43:04)

I mean, a lot closer to the sun that is West Texas. There, you know, you're in for quite a surprise. If you've never been to West Texas and you're like, I'm moving to West Texas.

Glenn Beck (Co-host or secondary voice) (43:16)

Oh, good luck with that.

Glenn Beck (43:18)

Good luck with that. It takes. Takes real pioneers to do that.