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Glenn Beck
You don't want to miss a second of it. We have the CEO of Beth Bed Bath and Beyond who is, you know, taking on Gavin Newsom. Also on the same podcast, Jack Hibbs. He's the big pastor out in California that kept his church open. I mean he fought California and their laws on Covid like nobody else. He's back and he said there is a new bill that is about to be passed and signed by the Governor. He's telling his congregation in California if this passes, you must get your kids and move out of California for their sake. Also, the target CEO steps down. Or was it was it because they were too woke or not woke enough or neither? And Cracker Barrel rebrands their logo. I have some thoughts on that. Is that because we don't like change or is it going woke all on today's podcast. Let me tell you about Relief Factor. Listen, if you live long enough, one of two things is going to happen. You're going to hurt yourself badly or something else is going to hurt you badly. But one way or another, your body just gets the nicks and the dings. If you're really lucky, they don't both happen at the same time. Maybe it was a fall, maybe it was a sports injury, a car accident, or just years of wear and tear. But the truth is, as we get older, those moments don't fade away. They leave a mark. And what they leave behind often shows up as aches and pains. And sometimes it gets really bad and it slows us down. And I don't want to slow down. You know, I don't care how old you are. I can guarantee you in your mind, you're still 20, you're still 19 years old. You think your mind can do anything, but your body is reminding you, no, dude, you can't do that anymore. Let's take some of that away so you can do the things that you really want to do. Take relief Factor. Get out of pain. Give their three week quick start a try. It's $19.95. Visit relieffactor.com or call 800, the number four relief 800, the number four relief. It's relief factor.com hello, America. You know, we've been fighting every single day. We push back against the lies, the censorship, the nonsense of the mainstream media that they're trying to feed you. We work tirelessly to bring you the unfiltered truth because you deserve it. But to keep this fight going, we need you right now. Would you take a moment and rate and review the Glenn Beck podcast? You give us five stars and leave a comment, because every single review helps us break through Big Tech's algorithm to reach more Americans who need to hear the truth. This isn't a podcast. This is a movement. And you're part of it, a big part of it. So if you believe in what we're doing, you want more people to wake up, help us push this podcast to the top rate, review, share together, we'll make a difference. And thanks for standing with us. Now, let's get to work.
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Marcus Lemonis
You're listening to the Best of the Glenn Beck Program.
- [03:27]
Glenn Beck
Marcus Lemonis, he is the chairman, executive chairman of Bed, Bath and Beyond. And he's currently in a some sort of a fight, if you will. I don't think he's fighting it. He's, I think he's reacting like a gentleman and a businessman with his responses to Governor Newsom. But he's in this argument with Governor Newsom because he said yesterday Bed Bath and Beyond just cannot do business in California anymore. It's just too expensive. It's, it's just too overregulated and no longer makes sense for Bed, Bath and Beyond. Welcome to the program. Marcus, good morning.
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Marcus Lemonis
How are you?
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Glenn Beck
I'm very good. I'm very good. I just want to point out before we go, because I think this is important to say because you started yesterday saying this is not about politics. And I just want to point out that you're not a Trump supporter. You know, in 2017, you came out, and I'm not going to go through it because you went back and forth and corrected and everything else. But, you know, you criticized what Donald Trump said in Charlottesville when it was thought that he had said, you know.
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Stu (Glenn Beck's co-host or guest)
Hey, and the Nazis are pretty good.
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Glenn Beck
Too, which we now know because the full audio and video is out and we can show that that's not what he was talking about at all. But you came out, as did a whole buttload of other CEOs, and said, you know, if that's what you believe, then, you know, please, we don't necessarily want you shopping here. So it's not that you are doing this because you're a big Trump supporter. I, when I saw your name attached to this, I thought, no, no, this is about business. Because he's not on either side here on this.
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Marcus Lemonis
Yeah, I'm not on either side, but I will say, yeah, it's kind of accurate from a historical standpoint. It's not accurate from a modern day standpoint. I think as time has gone on and the facts have been revealed and things have played out and moves have been made by this administration that I think advance business and advance the American, you know, citizen in a way that I think it puts us back on track. I would say that I feel very differently today than I used to. And that's really not an emotional reaction. That's an intelligent reaction of just looking at what the administration is doing to try to deregulate business, not to the disadvantage of a worker and not to the disadvantage of anybody, but to the advantage of capitalism in our country and to the advantage of investing in American business. And, you know, just as a reminder, Glenn and you and I met a long, long time ago when I had the profit at CNBC that, you know, my other business is Camping World. And I've been through hell and back trying to defend the flag from the same kind of ideology that I'm seeing out of California, which is your flags are too big, they're not approved. And, you know, anybody does a little research, they'll see that, you know, cities have sued me, cities have threatened to take me to jail, and the flag still hasn't come down. So what you'll find with me is that I try to be really pragmatic. I also happen to be a resident of Chicago, and if anybody wants a preview to the movie of what's gonna happen in New York City, come, come to my apartment on Michigan av and I'll give you a preview to what's happened and how socialism is just crushing not only my personal property, but other businesses around me. So I would say as one gets smarter and one gets older and one learns more and one lessons, you know, you evolve as a human, and I want to make sure that we're clear about that.
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Glenn Beck
I have to tell you, it doesn't change my point of view that this is about business, but I'm so glad you cleared that up, because you know that that's, that's all people should be striving for is when there are new facts available. You will actually say, oh, wait a minute, I didn't see that. I didn't know that. Or, you know, things are changing. I was wrong. And that, that's so rare. So thank you for, for that.
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Marcus Lemonis
Yeah.
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Glenn Beck
So, you know, let me give you, let me give you another slam from the left or from, you know, the people on, you know, Twitter and even Gavin Newsom. Oh, this is. You were out of business. And this is just a business move to get your name out there. Yeah. That's the only reason why you're taking California on.
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Marcus Lemonis
Well, let's talk about that. So, number one, you know, I took over a company called Overstock about a year and a half ago, and Overstock was a business that's been out there a long time. And they bought the intellectual property in the fall of 23 from the bankrupt estate of Bed Bath and Beyond. And the reason that I took it over is that the company had lost its way and was losing a lot of money. And I made a commitment to the shareholders that we would get back to profitability. And as part of that, Bed, Bath and Beyond is a significant underpinning of that. And so I needed to remind both Governor Newsom and other folks who, you know, were celebrating the fact that Bed Bath and Beyond had gone out of business. We're celebrating the fact that Bed Bath and Beyond had filed bankruptcy. And it is true. It's a fact. It happened. As I told Hannity last night, it happened. The reality of it is, is that America is buil on the modern day comeback. And we've invested hundreds of millions of dollars in Bed Bath. We run a billion dollar online business. We bought a business called Kirkland's that's out of Jackson, Tennessee, a family business. And we're using those 300 stores to convert. 414 of them are in California. I was disappointed to see Governor Newsom, in my opinion, just from a level of professionalism, instead of saying, you know what, I don't agree with your points and I think you're doing this for the wrong reasons. And whatever he wanted to say, however, comma, I'd love to out how you and a bunch of other business leaders can tell me, as the governor of the fourth largest economy in the world, which he likes to remind us every single day, how to make it the third largest economy. And what I could do, what, what things are out there that I'm willing to compromise on or that I'm willing to help understand, that will drive investment back into my state, that will drive capital back into my state, that will fill commercial real estate that's empty back into my state to appreciate commercial properties, residential properties, and to drive value. Because as a governor of a, my job is to protect my people. I get it, fine. But also to create positive cash flow for my state, which means I generate more than I spend. But I don't want to do it on the backs of just creating another nonsensical tax. I didn't get that. And that's really what has made me convinced that Governor Newsom is not doing things for the benefit of California. He's doing things because he thinks that his so called base is going to rally around his nonsense.
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Glenn Beck
So can you. Have you heard from other CEOs in the last 24 hours? You heard from anybody else in California? You have to name names, but yeah, I won't saying the same thing.
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Marcus Lemonis
Have I've heard, I've heard from very, very significant tech leaders in the state of California asking if there's a way for them to set up a meeting with Governor Newsom and myself. Of course, the answer is yes, but they all acknowledge the silliness behind avoiding capitalism and rejecting capitalism as it's. It's this dirty word and everybody that wants to make money or who's experienced success is a bad person. And that seems to be the theme that's coming out of the governor's office, particularly with his, I guess it's his intern run, press room, Twitter account or whatever it's called these days.
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Glenn Beck
So this is not a final decision with you. He could do something to change your mind.
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Marcus Lemonis
I think if Governor Newsom was really thinking about a political run and running a state that he believes is the superior state in the country, he would invite myself. Maybe not me, maybe I'm not qualified to be in a room with him, but other CEOs to say, hey, I'm hearing this and I want to learn and I want to change. Much like I said to you at the beginning of our conversation, what facts do I not have and how can you convince me how I can do better, how I can learn more? That's the sign of a good leader. That's a leader that I want to follow. And that's, I think even if you just take a look at our current presidents, I think he's got a different tone in his second term than he does his first term. And I couldn't be convinced otherwise. It feels far more collaborative. And that's what I'm looking for.
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Glenn Beck
The let me play the opposite side here for a second and say what Trump is doing. I. I see the regulation. I see what he's doing to business. And it is. Thank God, it is a. It's. I can finally breathe again as a businessman. However, if I'm in your business, I would assume you get a lot of material, a lot of. A lot of your products from China. How is that. How are the tariffs affecting you?
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Marcus Lemonis
We diversified the sourcing of our products, and the one thing that, when I came in, made it a bit of a mandate. And it's a balance between providing value to our shareholders and doing what I think is right. You know, I come from the RV world, where we make everything in Elkhart, Indiana, and we employ, you know, tens of thousands of people that make products in this country. But there are parts and pieces that come from overseas. And the reality of it is, is that until manufacturing in the US Is set up and can handle the capacity, that in the short term, there is an alternative sourcing, and that applies to furniture and lighting and certain textiles coming from around the globe. And the tariffs are not great. And I don't think that Trump would even try to defend that. They're great. It's a rebalancing act. But, Glenn, here's the thing that I mentioned, big money the other day. If you're really thinking about the triangulation of how Trump is approaching rebalancing everything, whether it is using energy as the leverage to bring Ukraine and Russia to the table or using tariffs to bring other world leaders to the table, it's all really done, being done, in my opinion, to recalibrate America's position both politically and financially in a way that maintains our dominance.
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Glenn Beck
You know, I think that is. I think you are spot on. And you're seeing that with the way he handled Ukraine. You know, he went in tough with the tariffs over in Europe and with NATO. He was tough with them. And then he then said, you want to support Ukraine, you can buy this stuff from us, but you have to do it, but we'll provide it to you. And now look at all of the world leaders are at the table. America is leading again, just not spending all the money and doing all the work. We are in the actual leadership position, which is remarkable. And I think he's doing that in every category.
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Marcus Lemonis
Listen, I think the one thing that this administration can acknowledge is that the national debt is at a level that nobody believes it should be at, and the deficit's at a level that nobody believes it should be at. And it's a very complicated, but not overly complicated math equation. We have a certain amount of money leaving and we have not enough money coming in. And the way that you rejigger that is to find the balance. And nobody, nobody that I know, including myself, is going to argue that the tariff execution in the last six months has been perfect. Like I don't even think this administration would acknowledge it's been perfect. And herky jerky on the markets, it's been herky jerky for business leaders. And at some point, we all hope and pray that it finds its footing at some point. And I'm not going to nobody should try to convince anybody that the consumer is exactly going to be slightly pinched. But the, but the balancing act of being slightly pinched on the tariff side is what sort of relief could happen on the variable interest rate side. And that's why you see this other piece being triangulated around where's the monetary policy and how could that be modified to provide the relief to offset.
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Glenn Beck
Let me ask you, are you, as a pretty influential business leader, are you. What's your outlook look like for the first half of next year? People are kind of holding back, holding their breath, not sure what to do. Are we headed towards better times or same kind of times or worse times, do you think?
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Marcus Lemonis
I think we're headed towards unfortunately, probably a little bit more of the same. What may be extracted from that is a little bit of the volatility. The consumer does have a significant amount of debt and they do have a significant amount of pressure on them with the interest rates, the balance on the interest rate. Interest rates are. You can't just rip them down by two points tomorrow. That's going to create chaos. You have to stair step it down. And you know, like in retail or in any business, you test and you measure and you test and you measure. And I think, I think what Trump has been saying and what Bessant's been saying is we just got to get some relief for consumers. 1.1 that I want to make inflation during the COVID period was a function of too much money in the system, too much free money in the system and demand outpacing supply. In this particular instance, we don't have a demand outpacing supply problem. We have a reset of the cost of goods problem. And it's a different type of inflation. And some people have said to me that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. There's only one type of inflation. And the truth is that's not right. Inflation driven by demand outpacing supply is a runaway train inflation because you're Resetting and recalibrating prices when supply and demand are relatively tight in nature is. Is an adjustment period. It's transitory. And you have to really look at the difference between the two. And I think the Fed needs to understand the difference between those two. Again, that's why business leaders should be far more involved.
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Glenn Beck
Marcus, it's great to talk to you again. And I have to tell you, I think that's the first time anybody said this. Inflation is transitory. That I've agreed with. Really great analysis on that. Thank you so much. Marcus Lemonis from Bed, Bath and Beyond. Let me tell you about our sponsor. It's the burner launcher. My daughter is coming up, I think, this weekend. Is it this weekend? Next weekend. But we're gonna go through a couple of sessions with the burner launcher. Because the burner launcher, I gave it to her. She just moved out of the house. She's living on her own, or so she thinks. She's living on her own. Oh, yeah, there might be a. There might be a squad car or two. That's. Anyway, but as. As I, you know, helped her put the last box into her apartment, I brought in the burner launcher box and I said, honey, this is now yours. And she's like, dad, I'm gonna be fine. And I'm like, I know you will, because you are putting this in your purse. You are keeping this by your bed stand. You are going to be fine. Um, it's not a gun. It's legal in all 50 states. It looks like a gun. I mean, it looks like a really powerful, spooky gun. Oh, it's black, so it must be spooky. What a racist thing to say about guns. But it fires kinetic rounds. But the best thing is it fires pepper or tear gas. So if you're out and she's out and about and she sees something going on, coming her way, she can just hit them with pepper, pepper spray or tear gas. And it is really accurate up to 60ft away, and it incapacitates people for about 40 minutes. So you're okay. Call the police. All right. Burna get one for you, your family. Keep it on you. I carry mine all the time. It's the Byrna launcher. By r n a.com glenn by r n a.com glenn Try before you buy at a sportsman's warehouse. Find the location near you@byrna.com Glenn now back to the podcast. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening. Target has announced that Brian Cornell is stepping down as the CEO of the retail giant after 11 years. And. And the value of the stock plummeting. It's down, I think 61% since. Its all time high, but its all time high. Was Covid when the government said, you.
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Stu (Glenn Beck's co-host or guest)
Can only shop at Target. It's the only safe place. That and Home Depot, the only safe place on the planet.
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Glenn Beck
So of course, they went through the roof then and they're down, but they're down, what, 28% since the start of the year. Not real good. Now, of course, everybody on the right is saying that's because.
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Stu (Glenn Beck's co-host or guest)
That's because they were involved with dei.
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Glenn Beck
And then everybody on the left is.
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Stu (Glenn Beck's co-host or guest)
Like, that's because they got rid of dei.
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Glenn Beck
Well, you can't have both. You can't have both. So I don't know what it is. All I know is, oh, when did they start doing that DEI thing? Around 2022, something like that.
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Female Co-host or Guest
I feel like that's when it became a story. It was right around 2022, 2023. And they may have been doing it before then.
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Glenn Beck
And I know that I talked to women. I talked to my wife, and she was like, no, Target is the only place I can go and get everything in one stop. I'm not. I don't care. I don't care if the cashier is Beelzebub. Gotta be 41 95. I mean, it was like. I mean, you couldn't get people to stop going to Target Now. I don't know why. What has happened? What's happened? I mean, I don't shop at Target, so I don't know. Have you heard your wife all of a sudden say, you know, Target really kind of sucks right now? No, I found it a lot easier to go to seven different stores.
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Female Co-host or Guest
I think you're right in that we tend to just tie every news story to the thing we've been talking about. That's something that everybody seems to do. And they're managing hundreds of millions and billions of dollars of merchandise over thousands of stores. They're probably more than just whether they had a rainbow shirt or not. It's probably bigger than that.
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Glenn Beck
I would love for that to be true. I just don't want to dance on the grave unless I know that's true. I don't know that's tr. True.
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Stu (Glenn Beck's co-host or guest)
Right.
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Female Co-host or Guest
I mean, because if you look at their. I'm looking at their stock chart right now, you know, yes, it peaked in 2021. That. That was. Yeah, I feel like 2023, maybe it was there was a fall after that, but it rose back up through 2024.
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Glenn Beck
Right.
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Female Co-host or Guest
It just has, it just kind of like crashed after 2025. Now that might have been weak holiday sales. Like, I don't know. I don't, I don't follow it on a day to day basis to know.
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Glenn Beck
Exactly when did they get rid of dei? Because maybe the crash, the last time the crash came because everybody on the.
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Stu (Glenn Beck's co-host or guest)
Right was like, I'm not going to shop there.
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Glenn Beck
And that lasted a couple of months and then their stock rebounded. But now maybe when, when did they get rid of Di? Because maybe they got rid of Di. And now everybody on the left is.
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Stu (Glenn Beck's co-host or guest)
Like, I'm not going to shop there.
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Glenn Beck
And everybody will forget about. And they go, stop shop there. But maybe that was just too much of a fall for, for them to take.
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Female Co-host or Guest
The date here.
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Glenn Beck
This is why you just don't get involved in politics. Politics change all the time. You know, anybody who's looking at the, I mean, celebratory numbers of the Democrats right now and how they are just imploding, be careful because it's gonna come back around. It always does. I remember, you know, 2008, Barack Obama and everybody else was like, the Republicans.
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Stu (Glenn Beck's co-host or guest)
Will never win ever again. The Republicans are so out of touch. They will never, ever, ever win.
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Glenn Beck
Well, look at it now. I mean, it just comes back. So now I don't know if it's going to. I've never. The demo. The Republicans I don't think ever did the damage that the Democrats are doing to themselves right now. You know, holding press conferences with burning cars.
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Stu (Glenn Beck's co-host or guest)
You know, this is mostly peaceful. And then shootouts behind them and crime on the streets. Great.
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Glenn Beck
Anybody who's done that kind of damage, and that's the damage that they're doing right now. Oh, and they're saying, they're actually saying this.
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Stu (Glenn Beck's co-host or guest)
It's a mostly peaceful pro protest behind me. Pay no attention to the cars or the bullets because it's very, very safe out here. You know, what we care about is we care about redistricting because we know that. We know that's exactly where the people are. Redistricting? Guess again.
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Female Co-host or Guest
So this is interesting, Glenn. So it was 2023, was the Conservative pushback on all of the kind of craziness going on at Target. And that did seem to lead to a dip in the stock price, but it recovered 2020. So there was a new boycott by the left, a 40 day boycott that they started in March, it looks like, to try because they were upset that they got rid of the dei. This is your, I mean, your, your summary of this is so apt because it's just like, don't get involved in this stuff. Just freaking selfish.
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Glenn Beck
Stay out.
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Female Co-host or Guest
Just make stuff and sell it.
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Glenn Beck
Leave it alone. Like, leave it alone.
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Female Co-host or Guest
Because I mean, it is hard. I do, I see. You know, we've had so many of these controversies over the years and you do see how hard it must be as a company to deal with this nonsense because you get targeted. You know, these things happen to you. If you're not an ideological. Thank you. Company that has a belief in something and you're just kind of floating out there and being like trying to react to whatever way the wind is blowing. It's got to be really hard to manage. You know, it's not easy to do. That being said, that's why you don't get into it, right? Like, you got to know that you look, you're an American company. You reflect American values, what your consumers want. And then you leave it, Keep it, keep it nice and simple. After that, you don't need to make.
- [25:45]
Glenn Beck
Just know who you are. You know what? Nobody is popular. Nobody. Have you ever known anybody that everybody really kind of liked? After a while, if once you figure out, oh man, they don't believe any of that crap, they're just doing that to be in the cool kid camp. Those people never last. Those people are not cool. You know, the people who are cool who know who they are. I've said this a million times. I think the sexiest thing a woman can do is just know who she is. Know absolutely who she is and doesn't care. Doesn't care about what anybody else thinks. This is what I am. Yeah. I'm a mom. Huh? I'm a, I'm a stay at home mom. If that's what she is. Great. I find that very attractive. And I mean, I'm not hitting on stay at home, you know what I mean? But nobody likes, nobody likes somebody who is just going with the wind. You're a weasel. You're a kiss butt. That's all you are. Anyway, did you see the thing on Cracker Barrel as well? While we're here on companies?
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Female Co-host or Guest
Yeah.
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Glenn Beck
Cracker Bell changing their logo. Barrel has changed their logo. And did they really, I mean, really, they got rid of the guy sitting next to the Cracker Barrel, but other than that, it's the same logo. I'm pretty sure, you know, I wouldn't have noticed a difference. I would have noticed the guy and the barrel gone. But if that was just There I would have liked. No, that's not a change. They augmented it some. They deleted some things in it. But, oh, my gosh, this is trending on social media like crazy.
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Stu (Glenn Beck's co-host or guest)
Everybody's like, they've sold out.
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Glenn Beck
They sold out because they got rid of the barrel. Really? Seriously? There it is. Yeah.
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Female Co-host or Guest
I mean, it's a little different. Maybe the font's a little different. Not. There's not much.
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Glenn Beck
Barely.
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Female Co-host or Guest
Yeah, there's not much of a difference.
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Glenn Beck
Yeah. Play. Play the. Play the news report on this.
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Michael (Cracker Barrel Representative)
Honestly, the feedback's been overwhelmingly positive that people like what we're doing. I'll give you another sound bite. I actually happen to be in Orlando last week with all of our managers. We bring them together and once every other year. And the number one question that I got asked, Michael, was, how can I get a remodel? When can I get a remodel? How do I get on the list?
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Stu (Glenn Beck's co-host or guest)
Oh, really?
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Michael (Cracker Barrel Representative)
So, because the feedback and the buzz is so good, not only from our customers, but from our team members. They want to work in a wonderful restaurant, so we're doing everything for our guests and our team members.
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Glenn Beck
Okay, stop. This is a lie. This is a lie. I don't believe anybody. I don't believe anybody. Customers, maybe the managers and people who are really, really deep into Cracker Barrel, But I don't believe any customer is ever like, you know, you know, I'm just going to ask the manager, when are you going to come up with a new logo? Because I want the T shirt. I mean, nobody is doing that. Nobody is doing that. Okay, So I don't buy that at all. But you know what? I think this is. You know, I think people are maybe, if they are. If they are upset about the guy sitting next to the barrel, the Cracker Barrel. I mean, first of all, nobody knows what a Cracker Barrel is anymore, but the guy sitting next to a Cracker Barrel, I think that could be. Have you gone into a McDonald's lately? That's not McDonald's. Just not McDonald's. I mean, I like it, but it's not McDonald's. And, you know, with everything changing, I think there are some people. And Cracker Barrel is one of these things. It's nostalgic. I mean, it's meant to be nostalgic. Cracker Barrels weren't really around when I was a kid, so it's meant to be nostalgic. And it. The whole thing is nostalgia and a lifestyle, an American lifestyle. And so with Cracker Barrel, I can see people getting upset and going hey, wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Change this to.
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Jack Hibbs
Let's.
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Glenn Beck
Can we, can we just leave things alone for just a while? Because everything else in life is changing. And I do believe that maybe Cracker Barrel is in this. This carve out of. Leave it alone. Leave it alone. But everything else is becoming. Did you see the. What is the. What's the logo now? That. Or the. Is it McDonald's? That is just having the M on the side of the. I mean, it's very small. You seen that?
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Female Co-host or Guest
Yeah, a lot of the, like, that's been. I've seen that complaint around too, that like, you know, there was a time where, you know, all the characters were all over the building and the colors were all over the building and it was this exciting, fun place for kids to go. And now it's just this sort of like bland minimalist.
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Glenn Beck
But you know what that is? You know what that is? Millennial. Not millennials. Z in particular. They do not like brands. They don't like corporate brands. That. That time is over. You remember when. I mean, it wasn't too long ago that if it was a brand, I mean, do you remember when the Ralph Lauren polo pony was little and then it became like half of the shirt was polo pony and you're like, okay, Ralph, slow down, calm down just a little bit. Logos were so overdone that now youth, they don't like that corporate thing. They don't like it. So I can see that for the youth, times are changing. You know, I've been thinking about this a lot lately. We are living in a time that is as dramatic as it was when the car came in, the horse and buggy was gone, electricity started, you know, refrigeration was there. That is the kind of change we're living in. And we're the ones who are like, you know, I used to plow those fields by hand. And anybody who doesn't strap it to the back of a horse, they don't know what life is. That's who we are. Because everything is changing. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. You know, sometimes I really wish that the commercial breaks, what's happened during the commercial breaks would. Could be heard on the air. And then there's days like today that I don't. I mean, it was a full fledged cracker barrel brawl. I mean, it was a mostly peaceful brawl in the way that the cnn, you know, riots are mostly peaceful. It was pretty ugly. And we're going to be out of time, so we're going to pick that up tomorrow. Come. Come for me again with your knife, Stu. I'm on the side of the people, Cracker Barrel. Anyway, Jack Hibbs is with us. He's from Calvary Chapel, Chino Hills. He's the founding senior pastor, author of Called to Take a Bold Stand. And he's been doing that for a while now. He's really been doing that. The book comes out Next, next month, September 16th. Welcome to the program, Jack, how are you?
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Jack Hibbs
Glenn, thank you. And thanks for the plug. Regarding the book, I just didn't have any idea that Gavin Newsom would help me get this book to the front of the line with all the antics in Sacramento.
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Glenn Beck
I know, it is, it is crazy. You have been. You know, we were just talking to Chip Roy, who's now running for Texas Attorney General. He was in Congress during COVID and the guy was a pit bull. And Stu and I were saying, you know, imagine if he would have been governor when this was going on, you know, in California with COVID you were probably one of the major people standing that really made a difference. I mean, you did that power didn't scare you at all?
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Jack Hibbs
Yeah, no, listen, I mean, we had to stand, Glenn. And you know, this. Jesus said, I've set before you an open door that no man can shut. He spoke that to the churches in the book of Revelation. And I, frankly, I have no authority to shut the doors of the church. It's his church. And so we just, we kept preaching, we got teaching, and lo and behold, for, for well over two years, we were the. The most populated church for a two year period of time, Glenn. We were seeing anywhere from 13 to 15,000 adults on a Sunday morning because people didn't have their churches open. So they, they came to our church and we were grateful to teach them.
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Glenn Beck
All right, you're. You're on today because you said something yesterday that I found astounding. It's about something called AB495. I'm going to have to have you explain that here in a second. But you went online and you said if this passes and he signs it in, you as a Californian, you have to take your kids and move out of the state. That's quite a statement.
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Jack Hibbs
Yeah. Listen, it made me sick to say it. It's 100% true. It's the last thing a pastor wants to say to his congregation. But it's that bad. As I explained the bill in a moment to you, it is that bad. And it's not my opinion. I've been counseled by legal on how bad it is. And so when I said to the congregation, yeah, if you've got a kid in school, you got to get out. If Newsom does not veto this bill, you've got to get your kid out of California for their own safety. It's that bad.
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Glenn Beck
Okay, so the left, the media is saying, no, he's making all this up. It's not. Explain what's in the bill and let me play pushback on a couple of places.
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Jack Hibbs
Yeah, absolutely. So, number one, it's Assembly Bill 495, and here's the deal. It's known as the Compassion Bill. It's a bill that Celeste Rodriguez and the entire Democrat legislature of California crafted. And now, these are my words. These words are my own. Back the next words. It's a bill designed to stop the bad Orange man, because it's all about ICE and its operations in California. And here it is. If an illegal alien is abducted by ICE and their child is in a state school or a private school or even a daycare center, then this bill would allow an individual. Listen, any individual can go to the website, print out the affidavit from their home. They're going to be asked a question. Did you attempt to reach the parents or the custodians or guardians of this child? Yes or no? Whatever. They check, then they sign their name, they write their name. No address is required. There's no driver's license required. There is no Social Security number required. There's no. There's no phone number required. The person checks the box, signs the name, and then writes down the child's name that they are withdrawing from the school for the child's own safety under the whole ruse that their parents or parent was captured by ice. Here's the crazy thing, Beck, Glenn, is that in California, the California Education Code, we already have this. It's California Education Code 234.7. In the event of a child not being able to be picked up or taken into the care of a family member, be it by accident, by death, whatever, we already have this law. So the reason we are freaking out about this law and making it loud is the fact that who is that person who downloads and prints out that affidavit? It can be anybody. The bill literally states they don't have to be a relation. It can be anyone who's possessing this affidavit that is downloadable and printable at your own home. So theoretically, Glenn, somebody could be down the street from your grandkids or from your children, and they can see that you go to work at a certain time of day, they know that your kid goes to a certain school, they can go to that school with that affidavit, extract your child out. Here's the punchline. Because it's an affidavit, the school cannot refuse the requester of that child. When you, Glenn, go back to pick up your child at the end of the day, the school is under no obligation to tell you who it was or where they went. And that's why we've got, and I'm not going to name the names yet, but we've got great legal minds that are nationally recognized that have reviewed this bill. And Glenn, this is so important. They said in almost everything we do, the devil is in the details, the fine print, they said, not this one. This bill is so vague that it would be hard to defend a parent trying to get their child or find their child because it is so loosely and so broadly written, so vague. And Glenn, we've been told that is the worst thing that you can have happen in California's government because our legal system, the judges, you name it, it is a dangerous Bill. Assembly Bill 495.
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Glenn Beck
How well do people in California know this bill?
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Jack Hibbs
Well, I gotta tell you, Tuesday we called an impromptu rally at the state capitol and we had 6,500 plus people show up. So the sergeant of arms told us that's the largest gathering regarding legislation concern in 30 years. So, yeah, good question, Glenn. Thank you. I'm grateful to agencies like Newsmax and Fox and KFI radio here in Los Angeles. But was CBS there, was NBC there? No. So it's all been grassroots. When people are finding out about it and reading about it, they're rallying. I mean, they were getting involved. Here's the cool thing, Glenn. People showed up, they were respectful, but they were loud. They were smiling, but they made their point. We had a series of speakers, attorneys and lawmakers. And bottom line is this. The bill has now been placed in suspension, which means they, they pulled it from its progress. They're going to reconsider the bill. Doesn't mean they're stopping it. They're reconsidering the bill. They're going to review the bill. It could either die in suspension by August 29. It will either die in suspension or they'll advance it to the Senate and then the Senate will rubber stamp it because they're all Democrats. I'm sorry if I'm offending any of your listeners right now. California is a Democrat stronghold. They have a super majority. They don't even put things to our vote anymore. It's no longer we the people in California. They rubber stamp things through. They get it to Newsom. And here's what I'm concerned about. I hope it dies in suspension. Glenn, for this reason. They're getting so much heat. We've had four Democrat senators tell us this publicity. That crowd on Tuesday is killing us. Hey, that's good news. But I don't want it to go to Newsom's desk because you know what that sly dog will do. He may veto it and then come out and say, see how big of a moderate I am. I put this bad bill away. So vote for me in 2028. Glenn. We're going to make sure that the Democrats of California and Newsom at the front of the line. Where's the Scarlet letters of AB495?
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Glenn Beck
What are your plans now in the next two weeks?
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Jack Hibbs
Next two weeks, we got people praying. We've got a website called RealImpact Us. Please, everybody go to it. You can get your marching orders there. Real impact us. It's going to show you the progress of the bill. It's going to show you who to call it. What state senator is your state senator. Give them a call, tell them, oppose it, kill it. We are. We just didn't rally, Glenn. We gave people that day after the public speakers. We then immediately held a 30 minute class at the, at the state Capitol steps. This is where you go to your legislator. This is how you lobby them and let's go. And hundreds and hundreds of people went to their state legislator on Tuesday and demanded that their senator and their assembly person speak up against the bill. It was absolutely epic. Again, largest crowd in 30 years at the California State Capitol.
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Glenn Beck
Well, Jack, thank you for everything that you're doing. I can't imagine what it's like to live in California where it seems like every day they're doing something else to injure the people and the families of California. It's why I live in Texas. I'm moving to Florida. I'd live in either one of those states, but man, I could never live in California. And I've always wanted to live in California. It was a beautiful, beautiful state. And now it's just, it's, it's an insane asylum.
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Jack Hibbs
Yeah, Glenn, it is. And you know, in fact, just flying up there, you know this state. Well, flying up there. So we left John Wayne Airport. Absolutely gorgeous. We flew up the Central Valley. Incredible crop fields growing, beautiful. I could see Half Dome and El Capitan to my Right. We could see the fog along the California coastline to the left coming into Sacramento again. Everything's beautiful, growing, fantastic, until you get close enough to the ground to see the devastation that Newsom has allowed to happen to our cities, to our towns. And even though we're still growing crops in California, that is in spite of his wickedness, to cut off water to our growers, to make life here as miserable as possible. And this guy wants to run for president. People need to wake up, Glenn, nationally and rally with us because if you don't like California people, you need to help us because Newsom is coming for America and he's the worst possible thing. But Glenn, I'm concerned because he's tall, dark and handsome, so to speak. Right hair. He's got the voice, he sounds like Batman. He's cool looking. Until you listen to his policies, the guy's diabolical. And we must stop this advancement of wickedness.
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Glenn Beck
I will tell you, I don't think the rest of America is falling for him. But then again, then again, I didn't think that you could have a social, socialist and Islamist run and win in New York. So what do I know? Jack, thank you so much again. Everything that you do, you can go to jackhibs.com what is the other website you just gave me?
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Jack Hibbs
Yeah, Real impact like reality. Real impact like a punch impact. Us. RealImpact Us.
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Glenn Beck
Thank you very much, Jack. Appreciate it.
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