Best of the Program | Guests: Peter Mcilvenna & Ezra Levant | 5/15/26

Summary

The Glenn Beck Program: Best of the Program | Guests: Peter Mcilvenna & Ezra Levant | May 15, 2026

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Episode Overview

Recorded on the eve of a major rally in London—where Glenn Beck faced potential lifetime ban from the UK if he spoke—this episode features probing conversations about freedom of speech, the decline of Christianity and Western identity, the rise of state censorship, and the double standards surrounding religion and conservative values in the US and UK. Guests include Peter Mcilvenna (host of Hearts of Oak), Ezra Levant (Canadian journalist and free speech advocate), and Marco Hunter Lopez (teen conservative activist from Texas). The episode sharply critiques cultural and governmental shifts in England and draws warnings for America’s future.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Decline of British & Irish Cultural Identity

Speakers: Glenn Beck & Peter Mcilvenna
Timestamps: 03:02 – 17:02

• Cultural Erosion: Glenn and Peter recount how major British (and Irish) cities, like London and Dublin, no longer reflect their historical identities due to globalization, immigration, and a dilution of traditions:
  • Peter: “When I came to London 24 years ago, I thought I was coming to England. This is not England in any shape or form.” [05:24]
  • Peter: “Dublin is an international city. It's not Irish at all... The further west you go, the more Irish it is.” [05:24]
• Destruction of Christianity:
  • The rapid liberalization of Ireland and Great Britain, accompanied by scandals within the church, led to a steep decline in Christian influence and identity.
  • Peter: “Ireland is an interesting test case. Going from probably the most staunchly Christian Catholic country to now the most liberal country.” [07:07]
  • Beck: “Is this a Christian country anymore? Great Britain?” [08:11]
  • Peter: “The Church of England is an apostate church, utterly collapsed, has adopted every woke ideology... The Church has replaced truth with a dogma of doubt.” [08:31]
• The Vacuum & Rise of Islam:
  • As Christianity waned, Islam gained ground, presenting itself as confident and offering identity, especially among youth.
  • Peter: “We have ripped out Christianity... Islam presents itself as dominant and gives an identity.” [10:59]
  • Beck captures the Nietzschean warning: “Be careful, kill the God and be very careful because another God's going to appear and you will follow it.” [10:50]
• Warnings for America:
  • Beck and Mcilvenna stress that the US risks following the same path as England unless it rediscovers its moral and spiritual bedrock.

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2. Free Speech Under Assault in the UK

Speakers: Ezra Levant, Glenn Beck
Timestamps: 17:17 – 27:01

• Ezra Levant’s Ban from the UK:
  • Despite being a decorated free speech advocate (“Queen’s Diamond Jubilee Medal for defending freedom of expression” [17:17]), Ezra is banned from attending or reporting on the London rally. He sees this as emblematic of broader repression.
    • Ezra: “To have the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom ban me, a journalist... I've never done anything illegal in my life.” [17:17]
• First Amendment vs. UK Law:
  • UK lacks the robust protections of the US First Amendment, leading to frequent arrests over speech.
    • Levant: “On any given day, on average, 30 people are arrested for what they post on social media. 30 a day.” [19:13]
    • Beck: “China doesn't either.” [19:33], in reference to censorship.
• Political Policing & Targeting Dissent:
  • The UK government wields police power against critics, especially those who challenge mass immigration policies and expose grooming gangs.
    • Ezra: “They're not targeting gangs or violent people. They're targeting people who criticize the government...” [19:35]
• Keir Starmer’s Hardline Stance:
  • UK’s new PM frames protests—especially those questioning government policies—as “hatred,” presaging harsh crackdowns.
    • Starmer (quoted by Peter): “We will act decisively against hatred. We will use the full force of the law when that hatred manifests.” [22:01]
  • Ezra: “I think he's trying to set up some event to manufacture some false flag events, some Reichstag fire.” [22:16]
• Double Standards in Law Enforcement:
  • Massive police presence for conservative/anti-Islamist rallies, but hands-off with anti-Semitic or radical rallies.
    • Ezra: “The problem at this big march … is not antifa, it's the police themselves.” [24:49]
    • Ezra: “Whereas... every week, for two years, every week, there was a massive anti Semitic March... the police wouldn’t even show themselves.” [26:13]

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3. The Struggle for Free Expression and Equality in American Schools

Speakers: Marco Hunter Lopez, Glenn Beck
Timestamps: 27:46 – 36:23

• Marco’s Testimony:
  • As a 16-year-old founder of a Republican student club in Texas, Marco shares first-hand how conservative and Christian groups are treated inequitably compared to Islamic organizations in his school district.
    • Marco: “I'm asking for a double standard not to be in place. I'm asking for equal treatment across the board.” [30:51]
    • Marco describing obstacles: “We met all requirements to be a club... They came and said that we can't have the club because of political nature, even though they approved the Muslim Student association.” [31:58]
• Hostile Environments for Conservatives:
  • Censorship, denied resources, and additional barriers placed against Republican or Christian clubs, even as Islamic accommodations are freely granted.
    • Beck summarizes Marco’s experience: “While Republican Student club faced denial, censorship... an outside organization was given easy access to distribute Sharia related materials directly to students.” [29:41]
• Personal Stand and Family Support:
  • Marco stands up to Congressional bullying and institutional obstacles, with his family’s backing.
    • Marco (on confronting Rep. Raskin): “He wasn't ready for what I had, all the knowledge I had for him. So that's why he kept trying to cut me off. But in the end, I proved him wrong.” [31:35]
• Broader Warning to Texans & Americans:
  • Beck: “This happened in Texas. Texans, you better wake up... There is a massive influx of people coming from California and all over and there is a concerted effort to change Texas... When you lose Texas, you will lose the Republic.” [33:11]

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4. Final Warnings & Calls to Action

Speaker: Glenn Beck
Timestamps: 36:24–End

• Beck: “Do not buy into the First Amendment argument on Sharia law... There is no First Amendment protection for any religion that wants to have a parallel system of law. It doesn't exist. It cannot exist.” [36:24]
• Beck urges listeners to watch the London rally live, insisting that what is happening in Britain will happen in America without vigilance:
  • Beck: “I urge you to watch the rally because what's happening here is going to happen in America.” [36:24]
  • Beck: “Tommy Robinson is going to join me in about an hour. He's got a rally that is happening here. Supposed to be the biggest rally ever in the streets of London. We'll see. They're doing everything they can to suppress it.” [36:24]

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Memorable Quotes

• “It's not England in any shape or form. It's everything but any sense of Englishness.” — Peter Mcilvenna [05:24]
• “The Church of England is an apostate church, utterly collapsed, has adopted every woke ideology from the world.” — Peter Mcilvenna [08:31]
• “The vacuum hasn't stayed there... Islam presents itself as dominant and gives an identity. And I think that's the thing we are lacking as a nation. We don't know our identity.” — Peter Mcilvenna [10:59]
• “On any given day, on average, 30 people are arrested for what they post on social media. 30 a day... I'm not a fan of Russia, but even they don't arrest 30 people a day for word crimes.” — Ezra Levant [19:13]
• “Your First Amendment in America is more important than almost anything else because with that, you can fight for all your other freedoms. Never give it up, your First Amendment.” — Ezra Levant [18:54]
• “I'm asking for a double standard not to be in place. I'm asking for equal treatment across the board.” — Marco Hunter Lopez [30:51]
• “Texans, you better wake up... When you lose Texas, you will lose the Republic.” — Glenn Beck [33:11]

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Important Timestamps

• 03:02: Introduction to Peter Mcilvenna and the theme of cultural decline.
• 05:24: Mcilvenna details transformation of London/Ireland; loss of national identity.
• 08:31: Collapse of Christianity and rise of religious/cultural vacuum.
• 17:17: Ezra Levant discusses his UK ban, chilling effect on journalism.
• 19:13: Comparison of US/UK free speech laws; 30 arrested daily for social media posts.
• 22:01: PM Starmer’s warnings and government’s policing of speech.
• 27:46: Marco Hunter Lopez’s segment begins: student activism and double standards.
• 31:58: Specifics of administrative bias in Texas schools.
• 36:24: Beck’s final summation and invitation to the London rally livestream.

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Conclusion

This episode interweaves warnings from three continents: the loss of religious and cultural identity in the UK and Ireland; the growing repression of free speech and political dissent, especially concerning Islam and immigration; and the infiltration of double standards in American schools, even in heartland Texas. The guests’ testimonies serve as both a diagnosis of current Western crises and a rallying cry for American listeners to guard their constitutional freedoms. Beck and his guests urge vigilance and assert that what is unfolding in Britain today is a near-future threat for America unless action is taken.

Transcript

[Glenn Beck]

It is our last day in England and may actually be forevermore my last day in England. I was told today that if I speak at the rally tomorrow, which will be heard on glenn beck.com torch tomorrow right in front of Parliament, if I speak, it may be the last time I'm ever allowed to come to England, so be it. Because if what I have to say tomorrow can't be said in England, England's already been lost. Join us for the podcast today. Lots of great stuff on the full podcast today, but also join me [e-mail] torch that Saturday. The coverage will begin at 9:00am Eastern. I'll speak around 10:00 clock after a salute to Charlie Kirk live from London, England. And here's the shortened version of today's podcast. All the best. Let me tell you about Relief Factor. What if I told you it's not only possible to get rid of the pain that you've been living with, but potentially you could go back to feeling the way you used to, back when you didn't have to check in with your body before everything you did. You just make sure that it's not going to betray you and then do it. Used to suffer from horrible pain in my hands all the time. I've said this before. One of the most emasculating things a man has ever have to do, and I did this every day for a while, was I'd wake up my wife early in the morning and I'd ask her if she could button. I almost cry every time I think about this button my shirts or tie my shoes. And it was. I just felt like I'm not a man at all. And Relief Factor took that all away from me. Thank you. Relief Factor changed my life. If you would like to give this a try, try it for three weeks. It was developed by doctors to cut down on inflammation, which is where most of the pain starts. Just call Relief Factor now. Try it for three weeks. 800 for relief. 800 the number for relief or relieffactor.com that's relieffact. Hello America. You know we've been fighting every single day. We push back against the lies, the censorship, the nonsense of the mainstream media that they're trying to feed you. We work tirelessly to bring you the unfiltered truth because you deserve it. But to keep this fight going, we need you right now. Would you take a moment and rate and review the Glenn Beck podcast? Give us five stars and lead a comment because every single review helps us break through Big Tech's algorithm to reach More Americans who need to hear the truth. This isn't a podcast, this is a movement. And you're part of it. A big part of it. So if you believe in what we're doing, you want more people to wake up, help us push this podcast to the top rate, review, share together, we'll make a difference. And thanks for standing with us. Now, let's get to work.

[Ezra Levant]

You're listening to the Best of the Glenn beck program.

[Glenn Beck]

Peter McElvenette is with us. He is the host of Hearts of Oak, which is a US, a UK based freedom of speech alliance. He's had 300 different people on 800 different shows. His articles are on Newsma and Max and the Daily Signal, Washington Times, Federalist. He is also the guy who has served as the Chief of Staff to Lord Pearson. I don't know who Lord Pearson is, except he is the last person left that was appointed by Margaret Thatcher, right?

[Peter McElvenette]

Yep. 1990.

[Glenn Beck]

What is that? What is that like? That's a different era.

[Peter McElvenette]

She actually wanted him to be her Education Secretary and she appointed him because of his work in the insurance industry, actually getting rid of some fraud which was Lloyd's of London and she wanted him to actually be Education Secretary and then she got stabbed in the back months later and the rest is history.

[Glenn Beck]

Wow. It would have been nice to have somebody take care of education the way they have. They've destroyed her. There's nobody likes her. And almost took down the statue of Winston Churchill. It's crazy. You ask people in this country, in England, who Winston Churchill is. I don't know. How is that possible?

[Peter McElvenette]

Well, we, I mean, big Winston Churchill statue right in the centre of Parliament and yet kids actually connect Churchill to an insurance company because we have a car insurance company called Churchill.

[Marco Hunter Lopez]

Oh, my God.

[Peter McElvenette]

And kids actually think the name Churchill represents car insurance and not the great wartime leader that saved the west from being overrun by the Nazis.

[Glenn Beck]

So. So, Peter, I wanted you on because I want people to see where England is now. America will be if we don't continue down the road we're on. I'm telling you, if. If we don't get a Marco Rubio or whoever is, you know, is running and is the candidate in line with what Donald Trump is doing right now. If we don't get that, we're going to be back here with a vengeance. We'll be right behind you with a vengeance. It will come back and you guys are in deep, deep trouble. I mean, I know I'm preaching to the choir here. You're from Northern Ireland, is it true? I have seen videos where they say the Irish are not in the cities anymore, they're out in the countryside. But it's not Ireland anymore.

[Peter McElvenette]

It's not. And when you look at Ireland, I grew up in Northern Ireland, also grew up in the Republic, in Dublin and Limerick. And you go further west from the capital, from Dublin and it becomes more Irish. So Dublin is an international city. It's not Irish at all. Similar to London. London has lost. When I came to London 24 years ago, I thought I was coming to England. This is not England in any shape or form. It's everything but any sense of Englishness. And Dublin has actually had the same transformation. I first noticed it, I mean, 20 years ago. I remember being in Dublin and walking one of the high streets and just thinking, I haven't actually heard English for a while. Wasn't a criticism, it was an observation. And then you start looking into actually the change. And Ireland's had huge change, the waves of immigration. A lot of it is actually the house building. I remember looking back 25 years ago and the rate of house building in Ireland was 10 times the rate of the United Kingdom per head of population. And a lot of that was going to international. So the whole country was being changed through that. But also mass immigration. And you now go, the further west you go, the more Irish it is. You still got those Irish speaking areas on the west coast, on the Atlantic way. But the closer you get to Dublin, all the Irish traditions, the sense of Irishness that tens of millions, not hundreds of millions of people around the world have a connection to, that's gone.

[Glenn Beck]

I have to tell you, I went to Catholic, I went to Catholic school. Father o', Brien, Sister Siobhan. I mean it was Irish, Irish, Irish. The churches are gone. Explain that. How does that happen this fast?

[Peter McElvenette]

So the Ireland is an interesting test case. Going from probably the most staunchly Christian Catholic country to now the most liberal country. What happened on the abortion laws is unbelievable. The rush to same sex marriage, so quick. But the, the destruct of identity. And part of that was the, the sex scandals that were in the Catholic Church were then used to destroy any remnant of Christianity within the country. Instead of saying this is happening in parts of church, we need to address it. The church was decimated. Imagine you took that to the grooming gangs happening in Islam today. But of course they say that's just a few handfuls, that's bad, a few bad apples. It's not Islam as such. So how can you attack the church for a Number of individuals and yet don't take the same perspective and understanding to another ideology. But that was, it was a concerted attack on the Church, destroying the Church's role as a guiding light for our society to now being dismissed and ridiculed and rejected.

[Glenn Beck]

So is there, is this a Christian country anymore? Great Britain? Is there, is Christianity alive here anymore? Because honestly, I have heard from the, what is it, the Archbishop of Canterbury and it's like, I mean, what is that? Canterbury Tales more than the Bible?

[Peter McElvenette]

You have to go back. We've had elements where we've seen Christianity disappear in the country. And the last stronghold, I think was Queen Elizabeth II, who was a strong Christian. And for 70 plus years she would talk about her faith in a gentle, very, very English way. Never not wearing your faith on your sleeve, but in a gentle way. But she would always say that she was a Christian and it was because of Jesus and she would talk about it. Now her death has meant King Charles comes in and so we now have no head of state who follows the Bible. The same in the Church. The Church of England is an apostate church, utterly collapsed, has adopted every woke ideology from the world, wanting to be liked, instead being a voice of reason. So the Church of England has gone. If you look at Parliament, Westminster, the members of Parliament, politicians, I don't think any of them anymore, on either the front benches and the government or the opposition, talk about faith, talk about going to church. I don't know when I actually last heard a Member of Parliament talk about going to church on Sunday and what they learned. I mean, in the US it's kind of the norm in some ways.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, yeah.

[Peter McElvenette]

Where you talk about your faith because that's important, that defines you, that makes you who you are, that's your worldview. In the uk it's a fear of being attacked by the media and being mocked because you claim to be a Christian. And that's so dumb and so last century. And so it is that attack. And I think the Church has replaced truth with this, a dogma of doubt. It doesn't know what it believes and it celebrates this confusion. Instead of saying, you know, Jesus, I am the way, the truth and the life. You've got absolute certainty there. And then the church takes and says, you know, we can't be so certain, we can't. We need to reinforce, evaluate these stories and contextualize them and look at them today. And all of that means the Church is seen as weak. And actually the flip side, the danger is we are seeing young people we are seeing a silent revival amongst Gen zers. Yes, we are seeing that. But the other side is we are seeing Islam encroaching because Islam offers itself as confident, as bold, as knowing what it believes. And everyone wants, everyone wants to believe something, everyone wants to hold something. Everyone wants a sense of identity.

[Glenn Beck]

It's Nietzsche, you will serve God, be careful, kill the God and be very careful because another God's going to appear and you will follow it.

[Peter McElvenette]

And the vacuum hasn't stayed there and that vacuum's gone. Islam and Islam presents itself as dominant and gives in an identity. And I think that's the thing we are lacking as a nation. We don't know our identity. We have ripped out Christianity from the nation. And therefore what is it that makes Britain British or English Englishness? What is it? Is it a cup of tea? Is it pomp and ceremony? Is it the Royal Family? What is it that makes us who we are? And that's an existential question and we don't really know how to answer it.

[Glenn Beck]

And there are no leaders.

[Peter McElvenette]

Again, it is based on Christianity. It is based on 1500 years of Christianity in this country. And you can look at the rise and fall walls of acceptance of that, but that has always been the bedrock of our society.

[Glenn Beck]

I tell you, I was walking through with you Parliament buildings today. Jesus and God is everywhere on the wall. I mean it's, I mean you go to Washington, we look like absolute atheists compared to what's happening in Parliament. It's everywhere and yet there's not a word spoken.

[Peter McElvenette]

I know, but that image we saw of Moses getting the Ten Commandments, it is there a huge image. And yet I'm sure you would have a debate about it in the U.S. whether, you know, we can have this mix.

[Glenn Beck]

We have it in. There's a face of Moses, you know, above the House of Representatives, but all other law givers and then over the Supreme Court is Moses and the Ten Commandments and that one's still argued about. It's not, but it's not like, it's not like what I saw today. It was everywhere and doesn't seem to be recognized by anybody. Do you do what? Because I mean, Tommy was just in, he showed me a video of somebody just half an hour ago on the streets of London talking about beheading all the Jews. What is, what is if this doesn't work, if this doesn't turn around, what does England look like in 10 years?

[Peter McElvenette]

Well, and you're right, we, you're maybe 10 years behind us in terms of, especially in terms of Islamization. But what it means is we, we collapse further and further. I mean, we, we were the British empire for over 200 years. We ruled a fifth or sixth of the world's population. Now I've got Keir Starmer and look how the mighty have fallen. So it's, it's kind of a warning to us that you should never rest back. And I think it's also a warning to America in your 250th year that just because you've had 250 years doesn't mean you're guaranteed tomorrow or the day after. And unless we change course, we are actually seeing some kind of revival with Christians coming from abroad, especially from Africa and Asia. And I think we are maybe reaping some of the benefits of the missionary work that happened out of the UK to the world. I think we are now seeing some of that coming back. I mean, the church I go to is a majority black church and people from all over the world and they're coming to the UK and they're passionate about their faith and maybe they can ignite the indigenous Brits.

[Glenn Beck]

They are going to be the ones that will be able to explain Sharia law to people who have never lived under it, because they have. And it's most likely why they're here, because people are getting killed all over Africa.

[Peter McElvenette]

Yeah, the amount of Nigerians I know in my church, I'll be with load of them tomorrow. And exactly. They are aware of what's happening. They are so aware. They talk to family members, especially in the north of Nigeria, and they hear what happens and they are. It is a warning to us. But sadly, I think in England, the uk, I think in the US you kind of think, well, that's somewhere else. That wouldn't happen here, surely wouldn't happen here. That's in a country that may be different laws and maybe a bit more back backward. But no, if it happens there to human beings, it can happen here. And it's just a lack of authority in government.

[Glenn Beck]

And yeah, it's why I'm afraid of, of what's happening in the United States and especially Texas. I mean, I'm going next week, I'm taking a vacation and I'm going to Hungary and Czechoslovakia and Austria.

[Ezra Levant]

Austria.

[Glenn Beck]

And you know, especially Hungary and Czechoslovakia, they're not having a problem with this. You know, they're wide awake because they just experienced it and they're like, no, no, no, we're not going down that road with you. This is insane. What are you Doing. It's, it's the countries like yours and mine that have never experienced this. And I mean, you guys have an actual Communist party that is, that has representation in part parliament. I don't know how you fought the Soviet Union for so long and you let communist in, but you did. I mean, it's, it's, it's insane how we have both. I mean, you really have forgotten it, but we're right behind you.

[Peter McElvenette]

No, you are. And, and you have protections in your constitution we don't have. But yeah, you look at. You're right, you go from the east of Europe and you realize they, they remember the tyranny that they were under, under communism. They realized what they had to fight for. Even something like Bulgaria, 500 years under the Turks, under the Ottoman Empire. There is a long history of opposition and they kept their history, their heritage, their traditions, and pushed back. We in the west, we have become weak. We have completely forgotten the first World War, the second World War, and we now think we're untouchable. We're great. But as we have thought that a belief in our self importance, that we have waned and waned in terms of, of military power, economic power and, and spiritual might, that's completely gone. I mean, if you look back in the Second World War, C.S. lewis used to do the weekly radio shows on the BBC, giving hope to the nation. Imagine that happening on the BBC.

[Glenn Beck]

Never happened. Never happened. They might run something and mock it. They would not have him do it. Seriously, it is so good to see you and thank you for all your help. I know you're with us on our exposing the Islamist blueprint and conquering the west. And thank you for all the work you do.

[Peter McElvenette]

Thank you.

[Glenn Beck]

Appreciate it. God bless you. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program and we really want to thank you for listening. So I was looking forward to seeing you tomorrow, Ezra, but you've been banned and you are a Canadian in the Commonwealth.

[Ezra Levant]

Yeah, you're exactly right. I mean, King Charles is the King of Canada also. And I want to let you know that a few years ago, the late Queen, she had her diamond jubilee, that was her 60th anniversary of being Queen. And I received a very special thing. I don't have it right here at my desk, but I received a medal, the Queen's Diamond Jubilee Medal for defending freedom of expression. It's one of the most important and meaningful mementos I have in my whole life. And I, I got that specifically because about 20 years ago, I published the Danish cartoons of Mohammed And I didn't bend the knee. And I was very touched to receive this medal. And I don't wear the medal often. I mean, it's, you know, I just don't do that. But to have the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom ban me, a journalist, I wasn't even scheduled to speak. I just want to go and witness this and observe it and record it. I've never done anything illegal in my life. I've never been, even had a parking ticket in the UK When I go there, it's to do journalism. And remember, the UK is really where a lot of our freedoms were encoded in the Magna Carta, really. They were the crucible for free speech. I'm shocked by what's happening, Glenn Radio and you would be shut down within a week. I'm sorry to say it. Your First Amendment in America is more important than almost anything else because with that, you can fight for all your other freedoms. Never give it up, your First Amendment. Never, never, never defend it in the first stitch.

[Glenn Beck]

So you'll be doing favor as an, I think as an outsider. You can probably explain it better than an insider. You're from Canada. Everyone says, well, you have freedom of speech. England has freedom of speech. They have. It's the same as America. No, the First Amendment is different. Explain how.

[Ezra Levant]

Let me give you an example. In the United Kingdom, according to the Times of London, a very prestigious newspaper, on any given day, on average, 30 people are arrested for what they post on social media. 30 a day. I'm not a fan of Russia, but even they don't arrest 30 people a day for word crimes.

[Glenn Beck]

China doesn't either.

[Ezra Levant]

It's crazy. And, and there's all sorts of extreme orders. They can give you a dispersal order, and if you don't leave immediately from a pub, from a street, you. That's an offense too. You can be arrested. I have a number of friends who do nothing more than, you know, citizen journalism. They're arrested and held overnight in jail sometimes just to give them a good scare, to deter them. And they really focus on particular issues that the government is afraid of. So this is not. They're not targeting gangs or violent people. They're targeting people who criticize the government, especially on the issue of mass immigration. And the number one thing that they're scared about talking about is the rape gangs of largely Pakistani Muslim men targeting white girls. And you can see it's even hard to talk about those things. Well, when people have a march or a rally against these rapes, the government goes into freakout. Mode because it challenges the entire multiculturalism and immigration structure of the uk. So never give up your free speech, Glenn, because you can see it in real time in the uk.

[Glenn Beck]

I want to play just a little bit of what Keir Starmer, the Prime Minister, said today, the guy who just banned you, what he said today in London about tomorrow's rally. And I want to get your reaction to a couple of lines. Go ahead, roll this, please.

[Peter McElvenette]

Tomorrow's march in London is a reminder of what we're up against in the battle of our values. The all organisers, including convicted thugs and racists, are peddling hatred and division, plain and simple. Their goal is to convince people that Britain's problems are caused by those living alongside them. But that is not the Britain that I know. This is a country built on decency, fairness and respect. A country that is at its best when people from different backgrounds come together in common purpose. This is our country with a majority who share those values. A majority who may not always be as loud, but must always define who we are. So my government will not stand in the way of peaceful protest, but we will act decisively against hatred. We will use the full force of the law when that hatred manifests.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay?

[Peter McElvenette]

And we will ban those.

[Glenn Beck]

So, Ezra, what does. We will act decisively and use the full force of law. What is he setting up for tomorrow? What is he expecting tomorrow? That is, to me, that's bone chilling.

[Ezra Levant]

And, and you'll notice that he went and instructed the police. Even he was boasting about it. They published photos and video clips of him sitting down with the police chief and basically giving him orders. We don't know what the orders were. And what was the police response to the orders? In the United States and even in Canada and the uk, policing is supposed to be politically independent. You don't have police running errands. Arrest this guy, arrest that guy. But sometimes that happens in a more corrupt place. In Canada, you might recall all the truckers had their bank accounts seized because the government was embarrassed by the trucker convoy. I think that Keir Starmer, who was the most unpopular Prime Minister ever recorded, he just lost 1500 council seats in a massive electoral wipeout. I think he's trying to set up some event to manufacture some false flag events, some Reichstag fire. And this is not me speaking as a conspiracy theorist. It's me observing. This is a man who has had more than 100 of his MPs call for him to resign. And he's trying to distract by demonizing. And I'M not a racist Nazi activist agitator. I'm a citizen journalist who's been to the UK more than 20 times. He's lashing out. He's trying to help Tommy Robinson as some ogre. I don't think it's working, but I'm scared of what he's up to.

[Marco Hunter Lopez]

Glenn,

[Glenn Beck]

I will tell you, Ezra, I heard about this rally, I don't know, four, I mean, eight or ten weeks ago, and I just immediately felt, this is history. I want to be there just for history. I wasn't even invited to speak at the time. I just wanted to go witness it for history. And then I was invited to speak. And as I got here and I've been praying about exactly what I should be saying, yada yada, I knew exactly what I was going to say. This has only made me more bold. I've added stuff to my speech tomorrow because I think it must be said now, but I find that had absolutely bone children. I. I have, I've worried about it the whole time. We've worried. I mean, I have more security with me this week than I've had in years. I mean, I. I mean, it's, it's crazy the amount of security, but when I heard that, I thought, I don't know what comes tomorrow. I mean, this is. Yeah, this is frightening.

[Ezra Levant]

You know, it's funny, you say you have security and I think that's very wise for you to have security, especially in a big city where there's antifa and other people who might take a run at you. But the problem at this big march on tomorrow is not antifa, it's the police themselves. And of course private security will stand down in the face of police. And that's the scary part is in the uk, the police are being transformed into a political force and even the courts. Tommy Robinson is perpetually being charged with nuisance lawfare, not from private citizens, but from the government itself. Recently, he was charged because he wouldn't give them the passcode for his iPhone without a court order. So he was charged under the Terrorism act, if you can believe it. Now he was acquitted in that case. But do you see what I mean about lawfare? They don't actually charge the real terrorists, they use the anti terrorism laws to go after Tommy. So you've got 4,000 police that are being dispatched to this rally. You're going to be amazed with this rally if it's anything like the ones in the past, Glenn. It's mums and kids and grandmas and grandpas. Veterans, no one wearing a mask, no one having hateful signs. So much love. And yet that's the target of the Prime Minister's ire. Whereas for weeks, every week, for two years, every week, there was a massive anti Semitic March, sometimes with 100,000 people and the police wouldn't even show themselves. They, they didn't even want to antagonize the Hamas supporters. So this is a two tier justice system and the United Kingdom is two tier in many ways. Now there's a sectarian divide. If you remember a generation ago, there were some battles between Protestants and Catholics in Northern Ireland. Well, now you're seeing a sectarian divide. But it's Islam that is one of the divisive issues. And it's not hateful to point out and talk about these things. But there's, there's definitely two different standards of policing. I have never been charged with a crime in my life and yet I'm banned. Whereas hate preachers are welcome to roam around the UK at Liberty get free.

[Glenn Beck]

There's a guy two, two, two hours ago there was a guy on the streets of London. The video is out of him saying he wants to behead all the Jews and he's screaming at it at somebody. It's absolute hate speech. Nothing's going to happen to that guy. Nobody's reporting on that. Nothing, nothing, nothing is going to happen. You're listening to the Best of the Glenn Beck Podcast. Hear more of this interview and others with the full show podcast available wherever you get podcasts. Welcome to a 16 year old high school sophomore from Wiley, Texas. He is the Republican Student club founder and he testified to Congress on Sharia Free America. His name is Marco Hunter Lopez. Marco, how are you?

[Marco Hunter Lopez]

Great. How are you doing?

[Glenn Beck]

It's great to talk to you. I tell you, you're a much more impressive 16 year old kid than I was.

[Marco Hunter Lopez]

Yes, sir. Thank you so much. It was. We were not expecting that to go down, but he challenged me. He called me out by name. So I took the fight.

[Glenn Beck]

I want to play a little bit. Here's about a minute of you and Raskin. Listen.

[Ezra Levant]

America proclaimed the separation of church and state. What Thomas Jefferson described in his famous letter to the Danbury Baptists as a wall of separation.

[Marco Hunter Lopez]

That was a letter, not a law.

[Ezra Levant]

Okay, so your position is that America is a theocracy.

[Marco Hunter Lopez]

You didn't let me finish my original statement and I understand you have limited time, but what I was gonna say is I'm not suggesting you to go back to anything that's in writing. But what I am saying is we need to acknowledge.

[Ezra Levant]

Well, I think we should go back to something in writing. I think we should go back to the First Amendment.

[Marco Hunter Lopez]

Yes, the Constitution.

[Glenn Beck]

Yes, obviously.

[Marco Hunter Lopez]

But what I'm saying is that, you know how I said original colonies were requiring declaration of faith to run for office? I'm not saying we have.

[Ezra Levant]

That's why we have a First Amendment.

[Marco Hunter Lopez]

What I'm saying is that we do.

[Ezra Levant]

That's precisely why we do need to

[Marco Hunter Lopez]

acknowledge our Christian heritage.

[Glenn Beck]

I can't take it anymore. Here's a. Here's A what? A 65 year old bully picking on a 16 year old. I mean, it is. I mean, you want to talk about. What did they call that with the power dynamics? You know, the reversal of the power dynamic and how, you know, that is just so offensive. The power dynamic here. What about that? I mean, it's just despicable. If I were your dad, Marco, I would have been. I would have been so pissed anyway. Yeah, you. You actually said in your testimony before this, You said, the contrast with my own club could not be clearer. While Republican Student club faced denial, censorship, poster removal and hostile oversight, an outside organization was given easy access to distribute Sharia related materials directly to students. Administrators not only allowed it, they actively promoted Islamic events. The principal has enthusiastically participated in World Hijab Day two years in a row that we are aware of. And when she wore a hijab and promoted it on social media, she stated, I loved this experience. The district now offers halal meals, dedicated prayer room for Islamic services, and place the Quran in at least one middle school library. While no Bible is offered, conservative and Christian student groups have never received comparable accommodation. I urge this committee and lawmakers across the country to demand full investigations into these organizations and reject any ideology or political system that is at odds with American law. Parents and students deserve transparency and protection from ideological capture. What began as my effort to start a simple conservative club have revealed how institutions can be compromised when we remain silent. You are not asking for any kind of, you know, stifling of religion. What are you asking for?

[Marco Hunter Lopez]

I'm asking for a double standard not to be in place. I'm asking for equal treatment across the board. You know, the left is the first people to claim that they're all for acceptance and all for love. But once it's somebody that disagrees with them, they want to push you off to the side.

[Glenn Beck]

How did you feel on how Raskin was treating you? Did you expect in the moment?

[Marco Hunter Lopez]

No, I was not expecting that to go down at all the funny thing is, before I took off the flight, my mom said, promise me you're not going to go viral and you're not going to beat a Democrat. And I said, I'm sorry, I can't make any promises.

[Glenn Beck]

I love your mom. I think that's exactly what I would have said to my kids. I love that. I love that.

[Marco Hunter Lopez]

So, you know, I was not expecting that to go down. But he challenged me. I took the fight. He wasn't ready for what I had, all the knowledge I had for him. So that's why he kept trying to cut me off. But in the end, I proved him wrong. So.

[Glenn Beck]

So you were when you tried to start your Republican club at your school, tell me what you have, what you went through.

[Marco Hunter Lopez]

Yes. So on August 16th of 2024, we met all requirements to be a club. We had 10 members, we had a teacher sponsor, and we had a room to meet. They came and said that we can't have the club because of political nature, even though they approved the Muslim Student association. And they also approved another club that had gender affirming ideology in the curriculum. So we pointed that out and they said we still couldn't have it. We asked for the district policy. They referenced after month, about a month of emails, they came back and said it wasn't district policy, but just, just the way they felt. So that's what we were up against when we. Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

And so did you tell Jamie Raskin that? Because that, that would be kind of important. I thought he said he wanted things written down. There you go.

[Marco Hunter Lopez]

Exactly. And the funny thing is that we kept fighting for about a month to gain access. And once we were finally approved, we were the only club that couldn't have guest speakers, the only club that couldn't have social media page, the only club that couldn't have posters. And we had to keep fighting little mini battles and we won them. When we finally got the posters approved, I put them up and I was out of town in Florida for my sister's wedding and my friends were texting me that they were gone and the principals were taking down our posters because they had an issue with the American flag on it.

[Glenn Beck]

I'd like to remind this audience that this happened in Texas. Texans, you better wake up. All Texans that I know that grew up in Texas, they all say the same thing, Ah, it's Texas. It'll always be this way. It is not going to be this way. It is not. There is a massive influx of people coming from California and all over and there is a concerted effort to change Texas and to co opt Texas and make it deep, deep blue. I'm telling you, you're going to lose Texas. And when you lose Texas, you will lose the Republic. Wake up. This story is in Texas. Your father, you, in your testimony, you said my father even had to help create a guest speaker form to protect me as a minor. What does that mean?

[Marco Hunter Lopez]

So I had hosted after, like I said, we kept fighting those mini battles to gain just simple recognition that other clubs automatically had. Like I said, we didn't, we weren't able to have guest speakers. But we fought that battle and won. It had two guest speakers and the principal in the hallway pulled me in the office with another assistant principal and was talking down to me, was cornering me and was saying that she was going to start putting new policies on the fly on the day, getting onto me about how I didn't know about a new policy that was going in effect that second. And so my dad was not okay with that. So he reached out to the district and he met with district personnel to make a guest speaker form so nothing like that would happen again.

[Glenn Beck]

You've got an amazing family. I hope you appreciate your mom and dad. Marco, I wanted to get John because I thought, I thought you, you handled yourself really, really well. And I remember the last time I had somebody your age on, literally your age, he did an interview from his house and he sat on his mom's washer and dryer. He said I had to turn the dryer off because it was making tumbling noises and my sister was making noises on the, in the hallway. And he said it was one of those old cord phones. And he said I had dragged it in and I was sitting on the washer and dryer and my sister kept bugging me. I'm like, I'm on the phone with Glenn Beck as he was waiting to come on with me. That kid was Ben Shapiro. And I, I really, I saw your story and I thought, man, this kid could be another Ben Shapiro. This kid could be another really smart voice in the future. So I wanted to get you on. I also wanted to offer you a slot in our American Journey Experience. We do a summer class for a couple of weeks. It is really hard to get in and it's four 18 year olds. But I'd like to see if we can make an exception for you and get you in. And we'll teach you American history from the American, the original documents so you can have the strongest case wherever you might go.

[Marco Hunter Lopez]

Wow. Thank you so much.

[Glenn Beck]

You're welcome. Marco. Best of luck. We'll be in touch. Ricky, can you pass him on to JP and see if we can make that exception? If not, it'll be a couple of years. But. But we will. We. I want you in that class. Marco. Thank you so much. God bless you.

[Marco Hunter Lopez]

Thank you.

[Glenn Beck]

You bet. Bye.

[Peter McElvenette]

Bye.

[Glenn Beck]

Say hi to your parents. I. I saw that story yesterday with Jamie Raskin and I thought, what a dirt bag. I mean, you can't even let you. I mean, first of all, you obviously didn't listen to his testimony because all he was saying. He wasn't saying anything about sharing. Acceptable. It is, it goes against. You cannot have a parallel law system. That is absolutely true. And there is no First Amendment protection for any religion that wants to have a parallel system of law. It doesn't exist. It cannot exist. Do not buy in to the First Amendment argument on Sharia law, on being a Muslim. Absolutely. First Amendment. Being an Islamist. It is not First Amendment. It is against the Constitution. It is an overthrow of everything that we hold sacred and dear in our Constitution. That is not a First Amendment right. But that's something we all need to learn and something that has to be learned here, honestly, and England as well. Tommy Robinson is going to join me in about an hour. He's got a rally that is happening here. Supposed to be the biggest rally ever in the streets of London. We'll see. They're doing everything they can to suppress it. And I was told that the reason why I was allowed in is because Tommy has not announced his speakers this year. So they went after the speakers that were here the last time he did a rally. And that's how they got the list of who wasn't allowed to come in. And I was told this morning that if I speak tomorrow, I will never be allowed to come in to England again. And that almost took my breath away because I know what I'm going to say and I'm here for a reason. And I'm going to talk about that coming up in just a minute. But I urge you to watch the rally because what's happening here is going to happen in America. So I urge you to watch this tomorrow. You can, you can gain access to [e-mail] torch glennbeck.com torch we begin coverage, I guess Tommy, is coverage at 9am Eastern Time here. And I'll be speaking, I think about 10am for a few minutes in front of, you know, Parliament in front of Westminster palace or Castle or whatever the hell they call it over here. That'll be tomorrow. Don't miss it. GlennBeck.com torch.