Tim Burchett (3:17)

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Glenn Beck (3:21)

All right. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. Glad you're here. There's a lot going on today. I wish I had two hours with Tim Burchette. He's the congressman from Tennessee. So many things to talk about. And this guy tends to just say things which I wildly appreciate, because none of the stories that are in the news today are really about the story. I mean, this. This. This thing with Swalwell, it's not about him being a dirtbag. Everybody's known he's a dirtbag. Literally every 50 women in his office. 50 women. How does that happen? And nobody knows. And now the media's going out and patting themselves on the back saying, oh, yeah, look, we. This is good journalism. We. We found this out. Please, please, give it a rest. You. Because he became an inconvenience to the power structure, ends justify the means. They needed to get rid of him. So now he's an inconvenience. So go ahead, guys. Get him. And that's what happened. And nobody. Nobody's even questioning the power structure behind this. Nobody's even questioning how did he get away with this for so long? Because it's a game. It's a game, and I'm tired of it. I know Congressman Burchette is tired of it as well. Congressman, how are you, sir? Congressman, are you there? He's now regretting coming on. He's like, oh, here we go.

Tim Burchett (4:49)

There we go. No, I got you. There you are.

Glenn Beck (4:51)

Are you there?

Tim Burchett (4:52)

Yeah. Yes, sir.

Glenn Beck (4:53)

How are you, sir?

Tim Burchett (4:54)

I'm wet. Well, I'm okay. My daughter's cat is in heat, and all the barn cats are lining up in the front porch like Congress looking for a pack check. So I'm, I'm kind of keeping my. And, and I hate to correct you, but it's actually Burchett, like, burr under my saddle. Chat in. Chat, like, no, you're good. Everybody does it. No, no, you're good. The only person that hasn't messed it up is President Trump, oddly enough. So I appreciate you, brother. And it's a.

Glenn Beck (5:25)

Well, if you have your name pronounced correctly by me, you are one in a million.

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So.

Tim Burchett (5:30)

Yeah.

Glenn Beck (5:31)

So, Congressman, first of all, give me your thoughts on, on what is happening with Swalwell. Yeah.

Tim Burchett (5:39)

Yes, sir. I tweeted about it yesterday or day before yesterday. He has become a threat to the power structure. Look, he had a relationship with someone who is a suspected Chinese communist spy. And he was on the Intelligence Agency, Intelligence committee and Pelosi and all the Democrats voted to keep him on it. This. And look, and now, so now he's. He's shacking up with a hooker or something. I don't know. Allegedly. And now they're, oh, we're getting morals now. We can't have this. You know, this is a joke. It is a complete and total joke. And I'm. Thank you for calling it out. I thought I was the only person out there who would do it. If everybody's known about this stuff. There is no secrets in Washington. That's why I sleep in my office at night. I don't, I don't need the distraction. And I, and I love my wife and daughter very much. And you know, and also I'm broke, but that's another reason to sleep in

Sean Davis (6:38)

my office at night.

Glenn Beck (6:39)

But you're the one.

Tim Burchett (6:40)

But, yeah, but yeah, this, this, this town is infinitely broken and crooked as we used to. As soon as we say it Easter, it's crooked as a dog's leg. And I wish people would quit calling it a swamp, because a swamp is something pretty cool. It's created by God. It's like a microcosm of the earth. I mean, it's got. It filters water. Animals live and breed and thrive there. Washington, D.C. is a sewer, brother. It is created by man and it stinks. And America better start paying attention. 12% of the population will vote. You got preachers won't preach the gospel. Our country is falling apart at the seams. 40% of it, so called evangelical Christians don't vote. 30% of gun owners don't vote. And I'll guarantee you, dadgummit, they'll be the first ones to call My office when something goes wrong.

Glenn Beck (7:36)

So let me switch to another topic. You know, the. It. What a surprise. This is going to floor you. If you haven't heard the news, it's going to floor you, America. Apparently that whole impeachment process was dirty, that everybody was lying, everybody was involved. And. And they had nothing. They had nothing. They manipulated the system. And Alan Dershowitz is coming out today saying for the first time in American history, this can now be expunged from the record. This was so bad that it should be expunged from the record. Again. Nothing's going to happen. Nobody's going to go to jail for it. But, I mean, how much trouble are we in, Congressman, when this can be done and nobody will really pay a price?

Tim Burchett (8:25)

And I wish you'd call me Tim. I'm sure somebody's going to get a real stern letter written to him and. And somebody's going to wag their finger at somebody and not a dadgum thing will happen to anybody. That is just the way this town is. Because everybody's compromised, Mr. Beck. Everybody's got dirt in their background. When you get to these higher levels and they're afraid to do anything and the gloves need to come off. America needs to see somebody in chains let out of the Capitol building. And it's gone on long enough. I agree with you.

Glenn Beck (8:58)

That.

Tim Burchett (8:58)

Go ahead.

Glenn Beck (8:59)

That. That's that. I'm sorry to interrupt. I'll call you, Tim, if you'll call me. Glenn. The. Sorry to interrupt, but that's the lesson that the Republicans need to learn from Hungary over the weekend. They didn't. It wasn't. They didn't get off the bandwagon of being conservatives. They said the conservatives that are in power will not stop the corruption. We need to stand for the corruption. If it's in our House or somebody else's house, it's got to be exposed and people have to go. They believe the Republicans now have stopped serving the people. The minute you are, the minute people think you serve yourself and not the people that voted you in, you're done. And that's where the people are.

Tim Burchett (9:46)

100%. I couldn't have said it better. This message approved by Burchett. For Congress. We have got to call it out in our own house because if we don't, we become the Democrats, we become something of convenience. And if it costs us a majority for a short amount of time, do it. I think America is ready for it. And that's why one of the reasons America doesn't trust Congress, you know, I Always say everybody, both parties are crooked. Theirs is just a little more crooked than ours. And I think that's the case unless we show America otherwise. And by doing so, we've got it. We've got to go after our own members and take the gloves off.

Glenn Beck (10:31)

But it's. It's not. It's not just that. It's. How do you explain Something that is 80% popular with everybody? Republicans, Democrats, Independents, and it won't pass the Senate. You're not serving the people. The question is, who are you serving? So it's not just going after your own people. It's about doing the things that the American people want. And if somebody is breaking the law, then that needs to be solved. That has to be. Those people have to be punished. We're talking about punishing people now. We can't even agree on punishing people who are killing people, you know, stabbing them 50 times because, you know, they're in a special interest group. Well, the biggest special interest group, quite honestly, is the progressives and all of those who are just milking the system on all sides in Washington, D.C. those people have got to pay. They have to pay or we don't have a republic.

Tim Burchett (11:34)

When I was in the state legislature, I would put bills of mine up that were good bills that the state of Tennessee people wanted in my district. And I knew they were going to fail. And the reason I did that was because I want people to see how people vote. You know, we had that bill up about. I think it's important to know, because that's what's happened in the Senate. You've got some rhinos, if not Democrat members of the Republican Party that they're trying to protect. And it's all about leadership. It's all about the suburban, it's all about the posse, it's all about, you know, having the front row seats at all the events and being introduced and having your butt kissed as soon as you walk in the door. And that creates groupthink, and that weakens our country. And that is what we've got now. Because to get in power in Washington, D.C. this may come as a surprise to you and some of your listeners, and I hope it does. But to get in power, you got to do two things, and I don't do either one of them very well at all. You have to kiss a lot of butt, and you got to raise a ton of money for your party, and they literally, literally have to. They will literally issue you a bill at the beginning of the conference, and both parties do it. They put it on a piece of paper. Mr. Back or Glenn, excuse me. And they give it to you and the press is in on it. Listen, if Peyton, if Congress was, was the NFL, Peyton Manning would still be waiting to get in because you got to, you got to get there. You got early on the lobbyist will, you know, you see the favorites and the fair haired child of both parties now they kind of promote them and the media promotes them. It's all a game. It's all a game. And then so all of a sudden, oh wow, they're in the press, I'm going to write them a check.

Glenn Beck (13:25)

I know.

Tim Burchett (13:26)

And then they gain all this money and then, but, and they, and they nurture them and bring them along, you know, and, and then, and then lo and behold, they're moving up the leadership chart and then all of a sudden they're a chairman. I remember when I first got to Congress, our, our then leader who's no longer in Congress, said hey man. He said, I want to, I sometimes will, will mentor some people and I'd love to mentor you. I said great. And so they started checking around on me. And then guess what? I never got another mentoring session because I didn't, I didn't do the game. When I first got to Congress, I remember I went to my, there's like a selection committee that allows you to get on certain committees. And I'm not, I've been in Congress eight years and I'm still not on an A committee, obviously. And they, they said we're going to see how you vote. Which I understood. And then they said, and we'll see how you do across the street. Now what that means is you can't raise money in the Capitol building, which probably a lot of them do, but you have to go across the street to make fundraising calls and to raise money and to have fundraisers. And so literally they tell you that when you get to Congress and is infinitely broken because of that. And you know, honestly, Glenn, I don't. The big boys, they never support me to the day after the election. And then they call me in and want to write me a check. My, my contributions are these little bitty ones. They're $25 and a sweet little woman's written a Bible verse on a piece of paper and wrapped it around a check. That's, but, but that's few and far between people like me because they just bend and scrape and it's a. And we've got to hold people accountable. And I would encourage people to, to find out how your person votes.

Sean Davis (15:13)

300.

Tim Burchett (15:14)

I mean, 357 members of Congress voted to keep that slush fund that pays for all these deviants in Congress that get back and they pay them off with your money. 357 members of Congress. Now, granted, some of them misunderstood it and all this other. But that should be. That should be a national. How come abc, NBC, cbs, cnn, fox. How come none of them covered that? It just. To me, it blows my mind, that kind of stuff. And only people covered it or the Glenn Beck's of the world. And how you stay on the radio is amazing to me.

Glenn Beck (15:52)

Well, I will tell you this. When I left Fox, last thing Roger Aile said to me, he said, you know what your problem is? And I said, no, sir, what is my problem? He said, you won't play the game. And I said, you know what, sir, Some of us don't believe it's a game. And I don't think the American people think it's a game, Tim.

Tim Burchett (16:10)

It's the future of our country.

Glenn Beck (16:12)

It is. Tim, I am. I am out of time, and I didn't even get to half of the questions. I want to have you back. You have said some amazing things. You said you have seen classified information that, quote, would set the earth on fire and leave the public up at night. Anna Paulina Luna is. Is asking for the release of a bunch of videos today. Is this. Is this a distraction or is this real?

Tim Burchett (16:42)

It's real. It's real. We just. There's two. It goes too deep. And when I sit in a classified briefing and some little punk with a man bun, bureaucrat in the Biden administration tells me that the President is on a need to know basis. That, that to me is. That should tell you all you need to know right there. They need to rip the COVID off this thing and expose it because it's not about little green men and flying saucers. I have my own theories on that. It's about what are we spending tens of millions of dollars on that they tell us do not exist?

Glenn Beck (17:16)

Like, may I have you back? You're so hard to book. May I. May I ask you to come back and spend some time with me?

Tim Burchett (17:23)

I'm gonna tell whales Will in my office to call you back and call you today and set something up. Brother. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Glenn.

Glenn Beck (17:31)

Thank you very much.

Tim Burchett (17:32)

And it is a huge, huge honor for me because I don't want to make you feel old, but I grew up watching and listening to you. And my mom and dad are both in heaven, they loved you and you're a straight shooter and we dig that. So thank you, brother.

Glenn Beck (17:46)

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Tim Burchett (19:22)

Right.

Glenn Beck (19:23)

Reliefactor.com 800 for relief 800, the number four relief. Now back to the podcast. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program and we really want to thank you for listening. All right, may I start with an open letter to Congressman Swalwell. Congressman. Can I still call him that? What time is it? No, he's still. Congressman, I'd like to speak to you today about due process. Due process. It's a crazy idea, and here's what it is. That no one, no matter how powerful, how prominent, how despised, how despicable, can be stripped of their reputation, their livelihood, or their. Their liberty without evidence. Investigation and a fair opportunity to defend themselves. Well, that's a cute, outdated idea, isn't it? It's a shield that protects the innocent from the mob and the mechanism that ensures the guilty are held accountable, but only after the facts are examined in the light of day with a court of law. Due process. Due process. Again, a quaint little idea. It's. It's not a favor that we grant our friends and reserved for those we like. It's a right extended even and especially to those who we find contemptible. You, I find contemptible. If we abandon this when the target is convenient, well, we've already surrendered it for everybody, including ourselves. So let me take you through a little history here. In 2018, during the confirmation hearings for Brent Kavanaugh, you, congressman, stood before the cameras and made your position unmistakably clear. You warned against what you called the demeaning of victims of sexual assault, insisting that people deserve to be heard and their allegations deserve to be investigated. Okay, all right. I think that's probably pretty good. I think people should be heard in a court of law. But you went further. You suggested that if Kavanaugh were innocent, he should. We should bring in all of the victims, all of them to be questioned, because that would just clear his name. I was clever of you. You argued that multiple, multiple accusations could not simply be dismissed when separate and independent claims begin to look the same. You said the arrows are all pointing in the same direction, and either the acts happened because of that, or the accused was simply the most unluckiest person in the world. Congressman, do you feel the same way today? Because now you have 50 women, 50 from your office, claiming the same thing.

Tim Burchett (22:42)

Wow.

Glenn Beck (22:43)

I mean, should we bring them all in? Should we question them publicly? Or is this time different? I mean, perhaps you are the single unluckiest person in the whole world at the time. You even pushed back on applying strict legal standards in public judgment, noting the testimony of a single witness can prove any fact. And you said at the time, and amplified the message, believe the survivors. So perhaps we just bring in one woman out of the 50 and let her speak publicly and believe her because she, as you pointed out, is a survivor. You see, you showed little to no patience for caution, little emphasis on presumption of innocence, little concern for due process in the court of public opinion. And what's truly sad is, at the time, unlike today, you are not alone. But, boy, I bet you feel alone today. In the broader climate of the time, including accusations against Donald Trump. You shouted the same theme that Women should be heard. The claims should carry weight. The process should not be used to silence them. Where is me, too today? You still. Me too, By the time you hear this monologue. Because I'm assuming you're not listening right now, Congressman. In fact, I should probably not call you Congressman, but. Because the time you hear this, you won't be Congressman anymore. It seems as though the sword has turned. Multiple women have come forward accusing you of serious sexual misconduct. Investigations have begun. They're not going to go anywhere. Don't worry about it. It's just about wrecking your reputation. And the calls for your resignation came swiftly, didn't they? And now you're facing the same storm you help direct at others.

Tim Burchett (25:21)

Hmm?

Glenn Beck (25:23)

Now, is it. Is it that? Is it the fact that people like you, the objects you directed before, are being judged without due process? That's what you say. You object to it because you can't do that without due process. And within days of an allegation being made, suddenly due process to you, Eric, seems to matter. And isn't it weird and a bitter symmetry that is happening here? You once argued that accusations carried its own moral force, that patterns of claims pointed towards truth no matter what, and that the accused should open themselves fully to prove their innocence. Now, you ask for time. You ask for fairness. You ask for restraint. The very principles you minimalized are the ones you now invoke. Here's where, Eric. Here's where it becomes difficult for me and people like me because you have been such a destructive, dishonest, selfish, slimy, I could go on force that never seemed to care about anything other than your own personal agenda. Where was fairness? And so it's very hard for people like me who actually believe in American principles to be consistent. But thankfully, I am not. You. Justice demands something really difficult. And so I am compelled to grant to you what you did not grant to others. Because due process is not conditional. The allegations against you, however serious, however numerous, remain allegations. And so I am not going to say this is what you've done. I could say, well, the arrows are all pointing the same way. But justice requires evidence. It requires investigation. It requires the opportunity to confront claims and defend oneself. To deny this to you now would not correct a past wrong, although it would feel really good. It would simply repeat it. And it's weird, because at the same time, the consequences are already unfolding. You now, like those whose lives you destroyed and forever smeared, you may never actually get an actual trial because nobody in the end really cares, because you were protected by the Same system that is now, now delivering this severe blow. Your career has taken this blow. Your ambitions have collapsed. Your reputation has been deeply damaged. And I believe that there's no one who deserves to feel that pain more than you. But you know, isn't it interesting? The same machinery that you used to smear others and protected you. Because if this is true, if you have 50 women in your office and everybody knew it, everybody knew it. But you were convenient because you were leading the band. You were destroying the progressive enemies. And so they protected you. And in that, your arrogance grew and grew and grew and grew. You were untouchable. You were invincible. Until you become an inconvenience. And then Marxist and progressives do what they always do. Ends justify the means. You are expendable. It's really sad and tragic, but I hope today somebody learns a lesson. Eric, here's the lesson. Eternal laws are eternal. Eternal laws. Laws that cannot be fooled or manipulated, nor the judge bought off by political appointments because the judge himself is eternal. He set up these laws and they act, no matter what you do, no matter what man says. And here's one of those. Those who live by the sword shall die by the sword. Or here's one even better. As you judge, so shall you be judged. That's why I cannot deny the eternal laws and principles. Nor can anyone like me, even though we would love to. You may think eternal principles don't apply to you, that they're old fashioned. But God and his simple truths are unchanging. And they apply to you as they apply to me. So if I. If I just condemn you today and don't give you the opportunity that you didn't give anyone else, then I'm using the same sword. And I shall die by that sword as well. The rules we make for our enemies will one day be used on us. And Eric, the standards we abandoned in the moments of anger will not be there when we need them. Glenn, the process we erode for convenience will not protect us when the tide turns. Politicians. Due process is not weakness. It is not delay. It is not an obstacle to justice. It is justice. America. And those who discard it when it is inconvenient should not be surprised when they find themselves without it. When it matters most. All right, welcome Sean Davis from the Federalist CEO and co founder and a guy who has. I mean, really. Sean, you and your team have done more for this story. We did a. I did the. I think I did the biggest chalkboard I've ever done on the impeachment. And we did six months of research and I had enough evidence at the time to I said at the time, I think I could go to a grand jury and just present this case and you could get indictments on this. You have taken this story and now pushed and pushed and pushed. And now with the revelations that I want you to talk about now, you could take this to a court of law and you can get convictions. So, a, thank you. B, what has been revealed now tell us the story in a way for people who have not been following it.

Sean Davis (32:53)

Well, Glenn, you are very generous. Thank you for that. Thank you for having me on. Yesterday was a big day. So after six and a half, nearly seven years, we finally got the transcripts of testimony from the intelligence community Inspector General. And for those who may not recall, this was the guy who took possession of that infamous so called whistleblower complaint in 29 that blew up and ended up turning into the first Trump impeachment. And I think a lot of us at the time, even though this was kind of our first little foray into the impeachment nonsense, we're all wisened veterans of that now. We all smelled a rat, we all knew it was fishy. And what these transcripts that were released finally showed was that it was actually much worse than many of us suspected. There was so much Democrat chicanery going on behind the scenes. They were coordinating with each other, they were colluding, they were changing rules, they were breaking rules. Rules they were leaking and they were lying also that they could overthrow a president because he, the man who was elected by the people, didn't like the foreign policy that had been chosen by a bunch of unelected, faceless bureaucrats in Washington.

Glenn Beck (34:10)

So what did we, what did we confirm yesterday? What do we have now as evidence? What was the chicanery?

Sean Davis (34:20)

So we learned, we learned a couple of things that we had always suspected. And the first was that, and this was something we reported on very early on, which was that the Inspector general actually changed their internal rules for how you could file whistleblower complaints before this. This so called whistleblower, I call them axe grinders, came in and decided, you know, he was going to try and overthrow the President. The intelligence community had certain rules about what you had to have in a complaint in order for, for it to be valid. And one of those rules was you had to have firsthand evidence of criminal wrongdoing. And at the time, they never ever had it. This guy had a call transcript that he read and he didn't like things that the President said in the call transcript. And then so he go, he went and talked to other people and put down their recollections and kind of his own third hand view of things and said, you know, this is a, this is a criminal thing and they need to look into campaign finance and all these other criminal violations. And it turns out in order for that thing to have even been accepted under the previous rules, it would had to have had firsthand evidence, which he never, ever had. It was all hearsay, it was all second and third hand evidence. And you had the inspector general secretly change the rules, backdate the forms, mislead about what the intention was so that he could make this thing, which never would have been valid, somehow magically valid so Schiff could go run against Trump on it. And then the second thing he did is we learned all of the behind the scenes Democrat collusion that was going on. You had this inspector general that was breaking rule after rule after rule in order to release this complaint. You had DOJ saying nothing's wrong here. You had the FBI look at it and kind of scoff. You had the DNI at the time who said, no, there's no urgent concern here, there's no valid basis for a complaint. And instead you had Atkinson and this whistleblower, the whistleblower at the time, this blows my mind, he went to Democrats on shift staff and was working with them before ever putting this whistleblower complaint together.

Glenn Beck (36:28)

So all the things we do, we know who the whistleblower was.

Sean Davis (36:32)

Now everyone has said for years that they believe it to be Eric Chiramella Vindman, we believe, based on the transcript, was not the so called whistleblower. It looks like he was one of the witnesses, so called witnesses. I believe witness one, but I'm not positive, mentioned in the whistleblower complaint. He was one of the people who the so called whistleblower relied on to put together his third hand hearsay testimony or complaint.

Glenn Beck (37:07)

Does this inspector general still have his job?

Sean Davis (37:10)

No, thank goodness he doesn't. He was an absolute disaster. And you know, a lot of us wondered at the time, was this guy kind of just an idiot who got buffeted by the winds and didn't really know how to control the process and just ended up in a, in a situation out of his control, or was he someone who was actively working behind the scenes to make this thing into a bigger deal than it should have been in order to take down the President? And after reading through, there are two separate testimonies from September and October of 2019. After reading through them, I am utterly convinced that he was an active and willing participant and plotter in the coup and conspiracy to take down Trump in 2019.

Glenn Beck (37:54)

What have we found out about Schiff? Anything?

Sean Davis (37:58)

No, there wasn't much about Schiff in there. We knew at the time that he had been, or he and his staff had been colluding with this so called whistleblower before the complaint had ever been filed. That was something that didn't come out until the impeachment thing was in full swing. The person we learned a lot about, rather hilariously, is not so much Jeff, who I think everyone has known is just a dishonest dirtbag. But another key player at the time was one Eric Swalwell. And I think we've learned a lot about all Eric. Well, he, I mean we learn anything

Glenn Beck (38:37)

other than he's a dirt bag, allegedly.

Sean Davis (38:41)

We learned he's a real hands on guy, but apparently not on the intel matters that we actually care about.

Glenn Beck (38:48)

So I saw what's his name? Oh, the famous lawyer from Boston. Help me out. Anybody on the show. Lawyer from Boston, Harvard professor emeritus. Yeah, Dershowitz. Dershowitz said. Thank you. Dershowitz said yesterday that he thinks this whole thing could be expunged. And he said never before in history could that have happened before. He said, but this is so rotten to the core it could be expunged. Which leads me to the question, is anything going to happen?

Sean Davis (39:25)

My, you know, I've become a little bit fatalist and cynical having watched all this stuff. You know, I hear is something going to happen? And my brain translates this to is anyone going to go to prison? You know, that can send going to go to jail. Are people going to go to prison for lying? It's been almost seven years. My gut tells me no. And I know that can be like really disheartening for people to hear. I, it certainly is frustrating when you do all this work and you see all this criminality and nobody goes to jail. And so people can tend to throw up their hands and say, well, what's even the point? What's the use? And I would say the truth is its own point. The truth is its own end and its own purpose. And a lot of us can't control what happens to bad guys, whether they go to prison, whether they're brought to justice. But we do have a large ability to control what we consume, what we hear and what we know. And so I would say maybe this is just a cope Knowing the truth is huge. Knowing the truth is amazing. And the reason we Know, this is because so many people tried so hard for so long to make sure we never learned the truth. So I think we shouldn't allow ourselves to get lost in fatalism or cynicism about not having prison time. We should be thankful that we know the truth. That's always something to be pursuing and be thankful for. And so I'm upset that we're probably never going to see people in prison over this, but, man, am I glad to know what actually happened finally.

Glenn Beck (40:55)

Okay, can I push back on that? Because that's a. I'm in a bad mood today. I've been so black pilled today and I, and I've been trying really hard to not be black belt. But today is just with everything that's going on because nobody is, you know, like this Swalwell thing. The story is not swallow. I mean, you know, we had pretty good indications. We didn't know, but we had pretty good indications. 50 people, 50 women now are saying that. So the story is not Swalwell. The story is the system that protected him. Okay. And nobody's going to investigate that. I mean, the journalists are all patting themselves on the back going, oh, look, and this because of good journalism. No, it's not. Good journalism would have exposed this long time ago. But you didn't do anything because he was a, he was useful to the mission. And so the problem is the, the entire system. So, you know, you have, we know the truth, but the press is not going to report on it. So it's not going to be something that is really recorded. History is only written by the winners. And I'm not sure that we win long term here if Donald Trump, you know, becomes a lame duck soon. And the most important thing is if nobody goes to jail, how do we prevent this from happening again to other people?

Sean Davis (42:17)

Yeah, it's a, it's a great question. And you are so right about Swalwell. What's insane is his crime was not being a dirtbag or harassing women or assaulting women. His rhyme, his crime was threatening the political chances of a billionaire in California because that's, that was the only thing that got him under their Cleveland.

Glenn Beck (42:35)

Yes.

Sean Davis (42:35)

Like he threatened Tom Steyer and that was apparently a crime they will not abide by.

Glenn Beck (42:42)

Right, exactly.

Sean Davis (42:43)

But your question, so your question about the accountability. No, go ahead.

Glenn Beck (42:50)

No, no, go ahead. You're on it.

Sean Davis (42:52)

Yeah, it's.

Tim Burchett (42:53)

It.

Sean Davis (42:54)

I am very much with you. I struggle with the black pilling every day. And the thing, the only thing that I can do that makes me sane is understand. Number one, I don't have the power to control what a thousand other people in government do. I don't get to pick the DA's, I don't get to pick the grand juries. The only thing I can control is the thing that I can do every day. And the thing that I do every day is find out what's true and in broadcast it as far and wide as I can go. Because otherwise I think you'll go insane if you're constantly blackpilling and being cynical and being mad that this didn't happen or that didn't happen. Oh, I can't control any of that. So why? Why would I allow myself to get all wrapped up in something I can't control?

Glenn Beck (43:35)

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Glenn Beck (43:45)

So you remember in the good old days when we worried about Wikipedia making edits and things like that, or big tech censoring truth? Let me show you how those cute little battles are still raging. The ones we're paying attention to, while a nuclear information war is raging and no one's talking about it, is going right into the blood stream of artificial intelligence systems that are increasingly telling us what to think, what to believe, and even what the truth looks like tomorrow. Over the past few years, Reddit, the so called front page of the Internet, has quietly become one of the most powerful backdoors in AI training. Data AI trains on something, and a lot of these companies are training on Reddit. They train on what gets upvoted. Okay? If it's upvoted today and, you know, just doesn't trend for a few hours now, now it becomes the raw material that ChatGPT, Perplexity, Google and the rest of these models ingest and spit back out as authoritative answers. The one source that I found that does not do this is Grok. There was a study from Semrush. It looked at over 200,000 prompts across all the major AI systems and it found that Reddit links are showing up everywhere, often ranking higher than traditional news sites or even Wikipedia, which you shouldn't trust. Many of those cited posts had shockingly low engagement, sometimes fewer than 20 upvotes. You're going to understand why this is so powerful and dangerous here in a second. Reddit has bragged in its latest shareholder letter that it's now the number one most cited domain across all AI models. So all of these models are training how to think on Reddit that should terrify you because here's the reality. Even small coordinated groups can now launder their propaganda through Reddit and their upvote system. And it gets baked straight into AI that millions of people all over the world are using every single day for truth to help find the truth. And it's not just influencing what your neighbor sees on their feed. This is shaping what the machines tell the next generation is consensus. Again, full credit where credit is due. Great investigation. You should read the whole thing by the team at Pirate Wires. The, the reporting and the research laid out in this are laid out in great detail. They have been doing all of the hard work documenting how these manipulation campaigns actually operate in the wild. And they have exposed two major examples in just the last year. First, large scale propaganda network tied to US designated terror organizations. So Hamas and Hezbollah, the Houthis are deeply embedded in Reddit. At the center was our Palestine. It's got 300,000 members and they are coordinating through discord servers. They are not just posting these things in little niche political corners. They are infiltrating massive high engagement subreddits like Reddits about documentaries or you know, lifestyle, any of these things. And they are, they are laundered, translated battlefield messages from Hamas's own, you know, Al Aqsa brigade that were celebrating the attacks on the Zionist enemy. They are pushing Houthi propaganda as if it were a neutral reporting. So what happens is they will take something literally, propaganda from the terrorist organizations, they will repackage it and they will put it out onto Reddit. And if it gets some upvotes, it goes right into the system of AI. Reddit's own inter internal review tried to downplay all of this, claiming it found four pieces of problematic content. But reporters went back and found dozens that still live on the site. And then there's the coordinated campaign targeting elon musk&x.com this one is a great example of how this works. Suddenly, across dozens of major sports subreddits, Liverpool Football Club, the NFL teams, NBA, Major League Baseball, nearly identical posts appearing calling for bans on all links to X. These posts didn't trend in some communities. They they became the most upvoted post in the subreddit's entire history, crushing even celebrations of actual championship wins. It spreads like wildfire into city, state and international subs. And it goes right into the bloodstream of AI. When you read this article, I urge you to read this article. When you read this whole article, you will see things that, that are being posted and you're like, oh dear God, no smoking gun. But the pattern is unmistakable. Dormant accounts suddenly posting, then blocking anyone who asks any question. The media eats it up. They run it as headline for days. So why does this matter? Because yesterday I told you you have to pay attention to what is being. You know, the social media producers you have to look at, you know, how much have they, how long have they been on, is this a real person, is this a foreign country, etc. Etc. But unlike the social media mob on Facebook or Instagram X Reddit content doesn't stop at human eyes. It becomes training data. If there is an upvoted post, whether organically or through the brigades here, it gets read by AI and immediately marked as high quality human consensus. This is such a brilliant plan. So a small group of terrorists, terror linked operatives, can manufacture what looks like broad agreement, get it upvoted just by a few people and suddenly ChatGPT is repeating their narrative. When someone asks a simple question like what's happening in Gaza? Or can I trust information on X? No. This is how propaganda gets laundered into truth. The edit wars at Wikipedia. Oh my gosh, that's nothing. The brigading on Reddit, all of this stuff disappears behind a curtain and all we see is the calm, confident AI face telling us what to believe. This is just one study and one radical terror linked network. Imagine how many people are doing exactly the same thing on every side of every issue. It doesn't have to be just China, Iran, you know, political, it's corporate, it's foreign governments, it's everything. It's everything on what it means to be a man, what it means to be a woman, all of the things. Do you think, I mean, we, we are so busy taking care of life that we don't pay attention. How many people and how much money is out there doing this kind of stuff? Reddit's structure makes it uniquely vulnerable. Volunteer moderators with near total power in their little fiefdoms, no accountability, operating anonymously, feeding directly into the AI pipeline that is becoming the default source of information for the entire world. This is why online propaganda is so insidious right now. This is not about clicks or rage bait. This is about a long term narrative control at the source code level of artificial intelligence. Be very careful. Be very careful. We are entering a very new and scary world. Here is the warning to you and even to me. Every time a tweet, a post, a headline, even a podcast. Yes, including my podcast. If it makes your blood boil, stop. Take a breath, check the Sources. Is it important that your blood is boiling? That's why I started the show today. My blood was boiling. I was so mad. And I said, I shouldn't be on the air today. It shouldn't be, because I'm really mad. And that's not helpful. Then you have to ask yourself, where did this actually originate? Where is that person that I'm listening to? Where are they getting this from? Who benefits from me being angry and joining into this anger? Because some people are doing this intentionally. They know exactly how emotional triggers work and how to hijack our attention and our algorithms because they want to be famous, they want to be rich, or they have an agenda. But there's a lot of us that get it wrong as well. Unintentionally, I know I have done things unintentionally, thinking I was doing the right thing. But then later look back on it and go, wow, that was wrong. That was distorted. That was incomplete. It was just wrong, whatever it was. Here's what I want you to remember. Don't trust algorithms. Don't trust AI. Don't trust it. Don't look at this as the ultimate source. And if you get angry, any righteous anger can wait the day. It can wait. It can wait until you've verified it. Because right now, when we react instantly, when we share without thinking, when we amplify without checking, we are playing directly into the hands of our enemies. And I mean some of the worst enemies. Terror organizations. We are unwittingly becoming vectors for propaganda from people who actively want to destroy our way of life, our culture, our freedoms. And it will work if we're not careful and pay attention. Because the machines are learning from us in real time. So when I say don't play into the division, I don't mean just for your neighbor. I mean are you wise enough to guard what we are feeding the machine? Stay vigilant. Question everything with boldness. Verify it first and then rage second if you rage at all. But it's best to keep the rage offline.

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