Best of the Program | Guests: Sen. Mike Lee | 7/31/25

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Glenn Beck Program – Best of the Program | Guests: Sen. Mike Lee | 7/31/25

Release Date: July 31, 2025

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1. Senate Obstruction and the Justice System

Guests: Senator Mike Lee
Topics Covered: Senate delays in confirming U.S. Attorneys, implications for justice, Republican strategies to overcome obstruction.

Senator Mike Lee joins Glenn Beck to discuss the significant backlog in Senate confirmations, particularly focusing on U.S. Attorneys. As of the conversation (02:45), there are approximately 150 nominations pending, a number that continues to grow. Lee attributes these delays primarily to Democratic obstruction within the Senate, which hampers the Republican agenda to confirm nominees appointed by the President.

Notable Quotes:

• Sen. Mike Lee (02:17): "The confirmation backlog is about 150 right now... Republicans now have to decide what we're going to do about it."

• Glenn Beck (04:27): "Why we don't have justice? Because the Senate is not clearing the U.S. attorneys."

Implications Discussed:

• Impact on Justice: Without confirmed U.S. Attorneys, the justice system's ability to prosecute cases effectively is severely hindered. Lee emphasizes that U.S. Attorneys are crucial for investigations and prosecutions, stating, "We cannot get justice without the US Attorneys." (12:23)

• Deep State Concerns: Lee warns that in the absence of confirmed appointees, "deep state bureaucrats" with left-leaning tendencies take over, undermining Republican control and the President's directives. This situation allows Democrats to maintain significant influence over government operations despite electoral shifts.

• Republican Strategy: To counteract the delays, Lee advocates for the Republican senators to utilize the Senate's exhaustion tool to force votes on nominations, even if it requires prolonged sessions into inconvenient times.

2. Intelligence Community and Russiagate Revelations

Guests: Tulsi Gabbard
Topics Covered: Declassified documents on Russiagate, media suppression, deep state sabotage, accountability mechanisms.

Tulsi Gabbard discusses recent developments in Russiagate investigations, highlighting newly declassified documents that expose misconduct within the intelligence community. She criticizes the mainstream media for its silence and attempts to downplay the revelations.

Notable Quotes:

• Tulsi Gabbard (16:46): "The mainstream media is refusing to cover this... they're not giving voice to the intelligence professionals who were protesting against the malicious actions."

• Glenn Beck (19:43): "Are you sensing... that they feel the walls are closing in?"

Key Points:

• Media Complicity: Gabbard argues that major news outlets are either ignoring the declassified information or framing it in a way that minimizes its significance. She asserts that intelligence professionals who opposed the falsified assessments are being silenced.

• Weaponization of Intelligence: The discussion reveals how intelligence was manipulated to undermine President Trump’s administration, with key figures like John Brennan and James Clapper implicated in fostering false narratives.

• Burn Bags and Document Concealment: Gabbard explains the term "burn bag" as a method used to destroy classified documents. However, she points out misuse, such as hiding critical evidence in secret locations to prevent its public release.

Notable Quotes:

• Tulsi Gabbard (21:26): "It's a barbaric and unconstitutional practice if ever there were one, judicial personnel naming executive personnel."

• Glenn Beck (23:44): "Sunday. John Radcliffe said that there's more declassification of intelligence coming out. That shows how deep this went."

3. Accountability and Restoring Trust

Topics Covered: Mechanisms for holding intelligence officials accountable, restoring public trust in government institutions.

Gabbard emphasizes the importance of accountability within the intelligence community to restore trust in governmental institutions. She highlights that the Constitution provides the framework for ensuring that officials uphold their oaths and responsibilities.

Notable Quotes:

• Tulsi Gabbard (19:58): "...this can drive towards accountability."

• Glenn Beck (25:16): "I don't know what I believe in. I don't know what's true anymore... Do you, do you sense that?"

• Tulsi Gabbard (26:09): "It is your voice and voices like yours... to communicate to the American people why they should care about this at all."

Key Points:

• Public Engagement: Both Glenn Beck and Tulsi Gabbard stress the importance of public voices in pushing for transparency and accountability. Gabbard encourages listeners to actively communicate the implications of the revelations to foster a broader understanding and demand for action.

• Constitutional Duty: Gabbard underscores that fulfilling constitutional responsibilities is paramount. She states, "What we have to do is fulfill our duty focused on the Constitution and providing this mechanism for accountability." (27:43)

4. Personal Reflections and Encouragement

Topics Covered: Glenn Beck's personal struggles with maintaining motivation, Tulsi Gabbard's support and encouragement.

Glenn Beck shares his frustrations and feelings of helplessness regarding the slow pace of justice and the seeming lack of progress despite presenting evidence. Tulsi Gabbard responds by affirming the importance of his role in the movement and encouraging him to continue his efforts.

Notable Quotes:

• Glenn Beck (25:16): "I don't know what I believe in. I don't know what's true anymore... It feels insane."

• Tulsi Gabbard (26:09): "It is your voice and voices like yours... to make sure that we are calling for that necessary action to begin to restore that trust."

5. Interactive Segment: “Which is Kamala Harris’ Quote and Which is Made Up”

Segments Included: Game where Glenn and Stu present two quotes attributed to Kamala Harris—one real and one fabricated—and challenge each other to identify the real one.

Notable Moments:

• Quote Analysis (30:34): Both Glenn and Stu humorously dissect the presented quotes, ultimately determining that both were fabricated in this instance.

• Humorous Banter: The segment is marked by light-hearted exchanges and playful teasing, showcasing the hosts' chemistry and providing a brief respite from the intense political discussions.

6. Closing Remarks and Light-Hearted Moments

Topics Covered: Brief discussions on California governors and a humorous take on the "Man Act."

As the podcast progresses, Glenn and Stu engage in humorous debates about California's governors, blending political commentary with comedic elements. The segment includes playful references to popular culture, such as the Smokey and the Bandit movie, adding levity to the program.

Notable Quotes:

• Stu Burguiere (34:00): "Are you ready for game number three?"

• Glenn Beck (34:15): "Justice is in there."

Key Takeaways

1. Legislative Gridlock: The Senate's failure to confirm U.S. Attorneys obstructs the justice system, allowing unelected bureaucrats to influence governmental operations adversely.

2. Intelligence Manipulation: Declassified documents reveal significant misconduct within the intelligence community, particularly in relation to the Russiagate probe, highlighting the necessity for accountability.

3. Media Complicity: Mainstream media's reluctance to report on these revelations undermines public awareness and trust, necessitating alternative platforms for truth dissemination.

4. Public Responsibility: The podcast underscores the role of citizens in urging their representatives to act, emphasizing that voter voices are crucial in driving legislative change and restoring trust in government institutions.

5. Balancing Seriousness with Levity: While addressing weighty political issues, the program incorporates humor and interactive segments to maintain engagement and offer a well-rounded listening experience.

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Time Intervals Reference:

• [00:00 – 01:48]: Introductory remarks and podcast promotion (Skipped)
• [01:48 – 14:23]: Senator Mike Lee’s interview
• [15:22 – 30:19]: Tulsi Gabbard’s interview
• [30:25 – 43:06]: Interactive game and closing segment (Minor content included)

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the vital discussions and insights from the episode, providing listeners with a clear understanding of the Senate’s role in justice obstruction, the implications of intelligence community misconduct, and the ongoing struggle to maintain integrity within American political systems.

Transcript

[Glenn Beck]

On today's program, a lot going on. Tulsi Gabbard talks a little bit about what's coming in. Prosecutions and additional information from the intelligence community. Also, Mike Lee, the outrageous action of the Senate, we are way behind, and you want to know why we don't have justice? Because the Senate is not clearing the U.S. attorneys. They're not. They're not passing the nomination. They're not doing their job. They need to. Also, we play a game today. Stu and I try to decide which quote from Kamala Harris is real, which year a outrageous Covid conspiracy headline is from, from the New York Times and how a documentary could lead to a pardon for Diddy. Well, when I say documentary, I mean Smokey and the Bandit, all on today's podcast. Hello, America. You know, we've been fighting every single day. We push back against the lies, the censorship, the nonsense of the mainstream media that they're trying to feed you. We work tirelessly to bring you the unfiltered truth because you deserve it. But to keep this fight going, we need you right now. Would you take a moment and rate and review the Glenn Beck podcast? Give us five stars and lead a comment, because every single review helps us break through Big Tech's algorithm to reach more Americans who need to hear the truth. This isn't a podcast. This is a movement. And you're part of it, a big part of it. So if you believe in what we're doing, you want more people to wake up, help us push this podcast to the top rate, review, share together, we'll make a difference. And thanks for standing with us. Now, let's get to work.

[Mike Lee]

You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

[Glenn Beck]

Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

[Stu Burguiere]

Imagine a barbecue conversation with Glenn Beck and Mike Lee. Now there's a barbecue conversation.

[Glenn Beck]

Mike's actually really funny.

[Stu Burguiere]

He is very funny.

[Glenn Beck]

He's very funny. Never, apparently, on the air, but he's with us now. Hello, Mike.

[Mike Lee]

Hello. Good to be with you as always. And I'm gonna try really hard to be funny. Yeah, I'm trying not even to be boring. A little.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. No, it's. No, it's always. It's always great when people are trying to be funny, too. It just. It's. It's really good. So, Mike, thanks for being on. I am. I am so upset with the Senate, so upset with these Republicans. How many senators, I mean, how many nominations are sitting on the sidelines that for some reason our side doesn't want to confirm for the president?

[Mike Lee]

Well, the confirmation backlog is about 150. It was at 144 the other day. We added six just from the, from two of the committees I served on yesterday alone. So we're somewhere in the neighborhood of 150 right now. Now, technically speaking, it's not necessarily Republicans don't want to confirm them, just that the Democrats are slowing down the process. And Republicans, as Republican senators, we now have to decide what we're going to do about it. Now, some would say, well, it's August, we got to go home. Tomorrow is the first day of August. People want to be home for August. I get it. Washington's not fun this time of year. And historically the Senate has recessed at this time of year. But, you know, sometimes you got to do the job that you signed up for. And so we can complain all we want about the set, the fact that Senate Democrats have delayed the process. That's kind of become the job of the opposition party these days in the Senate. But once they delay and obstruct, it's on us if we, we don't clear the deck. And the way we clear the deck, the only way to clear the deck is through the tool that we call exhaustion. You keep them here, you make them vote, including, and especially at times that they find inconvenient or undesirable. This is that time. So we need, we need Republican senators to start saying en masse, we will stay, we insist on staying to get these nominees voted on. And if it takes us all months, so be it. It probably won't take that long because people tend to all of a sudden become far more willing to negotiate and compromise when something that they want is on the line, especially when what they want is to get out of Dodge.

[Glenn Beck]

Before we go back into politics, tell me who is being held up. Tell me the consequence of holding these, these nominees up.

[Mike Lee]

Well, look, many months ago we got the Cabinet confirmed. And so most of these names are not in super prominent positions that every American is going to be aware of. These are a combination. A small handful of them are judges, although we're really just getting started on the judges, not many of them are judicial nominees. Most of them are a combination of ambassadors, people represented the United States interests abroad as the President's personal representative and their personal representative of the US Government, their under secretaries, assistant secretaries, division directors within various departments of the US Government. Now, let me tell you why that matters. Even though most of these departments aren't that important to most Americans daily lives, at least insofar as they think about them, from day to day. What happens is that with these lower level positions is where a lot of the work gets done. And when you don't have a Senate confirmed political appointee put in place by the president, confirmed by the Senate, guess who runs those departments, those divisions, those agencies? It's the deep state bureaucrats, the deep state bureaucratic apparatus, the regulators, the career civil servant workers who basically can't get fired. They lean overwhelmingly left and that is an understatement if ever there were one. So this is much different than it would be if Democrats were slowed down by Republicans and they couldn't get all of their nominees through because the default is, it's okay, Democrats are still in charge because they run the deep state apparatus. We don't have that luxury. We flip effectively control of the US Government, a huge swath of it, from Republican control, which Americans voted for in November, over to Democrats every day. We refuse work, decline or fail to do the work necessary to confirm these people into their jobs. And it's high time we get it done.

[Glenn Beck]

Where is Thune on this? He's, from what I've seen, in favor of holding people. Is that true or not?

[Mike Lee]

Yeah, yeah. I'm always cautious about talking for a colleague, especially the Senate Majority Leader, in public. But every conversation I've had with him and every conversation I've had, heard him have in public and in private has been that he's in favor of doing it. Now the concern is, and concern that he and others have expressed is, yeah, but what happens if our people don't show up? Because apparently some Republican senators have gone to him and others saying, I won't be there if you have votes in August. Now, these people aren't.

[Glenn Beck]

What's wrong with these.

[Mike Lee]

Well, I don't, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what they've got plan. Maybe some of them have some dire emergence they've got to attend to. I really don't know because they haven't identified themselves to me or to the public as far as I'm aware of.

[Glenn Beck]

But out of 50 people, I'd give that excuse to maybe one of them, I have a dire emergency. Everybody else, yeah, get to work.

[Mike Lee]

And if you've got a dire emergency, we actually have kind of a protocol for dealing with that sort of thing. Either a dire emergency or you've got something like, I don't know, you. An immediate family member has died, some immediate family members getting married. You got to be there. The long standing practice in the Senate when you're in that circumstance, very often you can go and find somebody across the aisle, a member of the other party and say, here I'm going to bind, I've really got to be in location X, I'm having a lobotomy tomorrow or wishful my son's brisk or whatever it is. Would you be willing to pair your absence with mine? And more often than not you can find somebody who's willing to do that. So that's my point is that, you know, other than a few things like that which can be dealt with prepared absence arrangements, sure, other people may have travel plans, other things they would rather do, international travel or travel around the country, around their state, whatever it is. But those things can change and they can be delayed. And here I think they must be. Because, Glen, if we leave, if we leave, if we recess, as has long been planned, you know, by tomorrow, if we recess for the entire month of August will come back, these 150 nominees will still be here. And you know what? We're adding to that backlog at a rate of, I don't know, 10 or 15 new nominees per week as more nominees get, get moved out. If we were just to have these, if these were the only people we had to confirm, it would still take us until probably late April of 2026 just to get this current slate confirmed. But by then, Glenn, we'll have another 200 or so that we've got to confirm. That eats into our ability to do everything to confirm others, to confirm judges, of which there will be a lot more in the coming months and even to get our legislative work done because then we're stuck on these executive nomination votes. That's why the time, how many clear the backlog is now, how to happen now?

[Glenn Beck]

How many of these are U.S. attorneys?

[Mike Lee]

There are a number of them who are U.S. attorneys. I wish I had the breakdown of exactly how many fall into which category, but we got a bunch of US Attorneys who were in this group and US Attorneys play a very important role.

[Glenn Beck]

I have to tell you, Mike, I just had Tulsi on about an hour ago and I said to her, the people in Washington understand the crisis of confidence the American people have in our government and injustice. I mean, I've never felt it like this, Mike, and I don't know if you guys feel it this way as much in Washington, but you need to, your, your, your colleagues need to understand they are at the end here of trust. There's, you know, all this stuff that's coming out. Oh, it's comedy. Committee just found this. And hey, there's these new documents out that show this. Everybody's like, aha. And so what? What are you going to do about it? Another hearing until things actually start to move. And the U.S. attorneys are the key to that. If we don't have U.S. attorneys and they haven't been confirmed, you can't get anything done in the justice field.

[Mike Lee]

Yeah, that's right. And this is happening at exactly the same time when a lot of these interim US Attorneys are timing out, they're allowed to serve in that temporary capacity for a limited period of time. And under a stupid law enacted decades ago that I have a bill to repeal, they have federal judges in each district who can decide who will replace the interim U.S. attorney at that point. That's a barbaric and unconstitutional practice if ever there were one judicial personnel naming executive personnel. That's wrong. So we got to get this done. I've talked to the president repeatedly about this, including less than 24 hours ago, presidents and plan to agree with me, as indicated by, among other things, the post on social media made over the weekend saying, get this done. You know, stay in town, get him confirmed, do your job. He needs it. The American people expect it. They demand it. They voted for this in November, and it is not appropriate for us to deprive them of that. And make no mistake, Glenn, if we leave and leave this backlog undone, there will be consequences, there will be harm, and that is on us. We can blame Democrats all we want, but when the Democrats delay, as is the prerogative of the opposition party these days, it's just what happens in the Senate if they delay and we do nothing to make them pony up for it and show up and vote and do the work to eat the consequences of their delay. This is on us. By us, I mean, Republican senators, who.

[Glenn Beck]

Are the people that we can nicely call to encourage, that are on our side that might be open to fighting a little harder to get everybody to stay day.

[Mike Lee]

Who.

[Glenn Beck]

Who should we. You know, I don't, I don't want to call and be negative because I don't think that works. But, you know, when, when people call and say, hey, you know, I know you're on the right side on this, how can we help you push even harder? Because there's millions of us out here that want this done, how can we help you get it done? Is there anybody, do you think that's effective or what's the most effective approach?

[Mike Lee]

I do, and I like the way you approach that. And here's what I would suggest in this Circumstance, we've got 53 Republican senators. If you live in a state where you're represented by a Republican senator, maybe even if you're not, but you think somebody might listen to you, call the office, email the office, probably call the office of those Republican senators and encourage them to do it. Stay positive, say, I'd really appreciate it if you, if you stayed and cleared the backlog. We appreciate the other good things that you've done. We appreciate how hard you work and we're confident that you can clear the backlog. We ask that you do. So I think that's very helpful because there's not, not One of those 53 Republican senators who couldn't benefit from that. We all need to hear that across the board.

[Glenn Beck]

Mike, as always, thanks for, for everything. Thanks for how hard you're working and standing for the Constitution. Even though you wanted to put a McDonald's and some sort of coal fired, you know, energy plant in right smack on top of our national parks.

[Mike Lee]

Well, yeah, don't forget about the grilling rig and the nuclear reactor.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that was only in Yellowstone, if I remember exactly right. God bless you, Mike. Thank you so much.

[Mike Lee]

Thank you.

[Glenn Beck]

Senator Mike Lee. Please, please, please. Tomorrow is the day, so call them today. Mike is exactly right on this. If we don't get this done, you want justice. We cannot get justice without the US Attorneys. We need the US Attorneys to be installed. All they have to do is hold a vote on them. They've got to be installed. Otherwise the president doesn't have anybody to investigate, anybody to, to put the cases together to be able to prosecute them. We, we don't have enough people. Please call your senator. Uh, they go on vacation possibly tomorrow. Tell them to stay, beg them to stay. Ask them to stay, be nice about it. Let's try that one, see if that works. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. Hi, Tulsi, how are you?

[Tulsi Gabbard]

I'm good. It's great to see you.

[Glenn Beck]

Good to see you. First of all, how's everything in Hawaii? We prayed for you and everybody in Hawaii.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

Thank you so much. Thank you. Thankfully, the tsunami passed without any real damage. I was talking to my folks and friends and family there late last night here on the east coast and just trying to help make sure everyone was prepared for the worst, which is what you have to do. It looked like it was going to be quite potentially very damaging. They were looking at 1 to 3 meter waves, essentially like 10 foot waves. Horrible that, you know, in any respect is kind of a. It's a tough day in the ocean, but for a tsunami, that would have been disastrous. And so, again, thankfully, everyone is safe and minimal. Minimal effect.

[Glenn Beck]

So let's go into what has been released and what is still yet to come. You know, as I look at the stuff that has, you know, in the declassified documents of Russiagate, it confirms what many of us have already known. Are you surprised at anything, at the media not reporting any of this? I mean, we've known a lot of this, but now the media is absolutely silent on it. And. And people seem to be deleting posts and no longer commenting online. What's happening.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

Yes, I am not surprised that the mainstream media is refusing to cover this. And if they do mention it, their approach is to try to diminish the effect and the impact of the revelations, the historic revelations that were found in the documents that we declassified and released, or to try to bring voice to detractors and critics who also just say, oh, well, this is bizarre or this is crazy. But when you actually look at the coverage and you look at some of the comments and the quotes that the mainstream media may be choosing to publish or highlight, they're not actually getting after the very specific pieces of evidence that were released that, quote, people like John Brennan, who was the CIA director, and James Clapper, who was Obama's Director of National Intelligence, they are not giving voice to the intelligence professionals who, in these reports that we released, were protesting against the very malicious actions that people like Brennan and Clapper were taking at President Obama's direction to create this intelligence assessment that was filled with falsehoods. They're not giving voice to these intelligence professionals because they recognize that it would push forward a very inconvenient truth for the mainstream media because it exposes their complicity in. In pushing this lie and this hoax from not only day one, but throughout President Trump's entire first administration.

[Glenn Beck]

And all of these people are still. I mean, Brennan, Clapper, they. They have been the source on so many things, and they're in with the media. And I wonder if this is just part of more of the same that they're asking them, is there anything to this? And they say, no, there's not. In fact, it's a. Whatever. And then I also wonder, how many people are you surrounded by that are still part of that old system?

[Tulsi Gabbard]

It's a good question. As we are finding these documents, going through them, declassifying and releasing them, we are learning more about who is actually directly involved and implicated in this, we're learning more about who may have been in the room and who was loudly protesting against it, recognizing how wrong it was. We have whistleblowers coming forward with their own documentation of their protests and their unwillingness to go along with this. So, yes, there are people who are still working within the intelligence community who had a hand in this. As we are identifying them, it will give us the opportunity to make sure that they and others like them, who, again, are so willing to weaponize intelligence to subvert the will of the American people, can no longer work in the intelligence community.

[Glenn Beck]

So Devin Nunes, Cash Patel, all these guys were in the last time Trump was in. This was produced in the last administration. Why wasn't this. Why didn't this come out then?

[Tulsi Gabbard]

You know, it's a good question, and it's an obvious one. I can't speak for those who were there at that time, but I've asked some of these same questions, and they were facing. I can't speak for all of them, but for Devin, for example, and for Cash, they were up against the deep state in many cases who refused to release these documents. If you remember, Mike Pompeo was President Trump's. I think he was his first CIA director, followed by Gina Haspel. I was told Gina Haspel refused to release these documents. So, again, the more that we find in the documentation, as whistleblowers come forward, I think the story will continue to be told about what actually happened and why it is that here we are in 2025. And again, this won't surprise many people who've been following this story very closely for years. But the fact that we have documented evidence and proof is the thing that matters, both to shine a light on the truth, that this wasn't something that was in someone's imagination or concocted. But I think even most importantly, that can drive towards accountability.

[Glenn Beck]

So Fox News had an exclusive that said Kash Patel found thousands of sensitive documents related to the origins of the Trump Russia probe buried in multiple burn bags in secret rooms inside the bureau. What's a burn bag?

[Tulsi Gabbard]

A burn bag is something that you'll find in many offices throughout the intelligence community, throughout, you know, these different workspaces in. In national security. Basically, if I have a document that's. That's highly classified, I read it, I review it, I'm done with it. My copy can then go in the burn bag to make sure that it's not. Doesn't end up in the wrong hands, that there's not an unauthorized disclosure of classified Information, it's a very different story. However, if you use a burn bag to try to get rid of evidence of which maybe there is only one copy of, and then hide it in a secret room in the FBI. That is a tactic obviously that has been used by those deep staters, these bad actors within the intelligence community to try to get rid of evidence. Another tactic that's often used is over classifying information. This is what happened with the Steele dossier. This was already widely publicized as a discredited document. But what John Brennan did and James Clapper did as the CIA director and Obama's Director of National Intelligence, they didn't want anybody to know that they used the Steele dossier as a source for this intelligence assessment that was filled with falsehoods they published in January of 2017, as well as other really, really shoddy intelligence sources that would not be acceptable on any, to be used on any topic because, because they were not deemed credible. They wanted to hide all of this from members of Congress perhaps who were reading this and the American people and President Trump, then President Elect Trump at that time. And so they, they over classified it in a way that there were less than 10 people who could access it. And then they locked up the only hard copy documents. This, this document did not exist on digits. The, the document that actually exposed this was the document that we released. They locked that document up and the, the five copies that existed in a safe and the first time it had been seen certainly in public, but even by many within the government was when we released it about a week ago.

[Glenn Beck]

Sunday. John Radcliffe said that there's more declassification of intelligence coming out. That shows how deep this went. He said it's stunning. Any idea on the timeline of that?

[Tulsi Gabbard]

It's going through the declassification process right now. I expect it to be released very soon. I think the document will speak for itself and once again it will I think confirm what a lot of people have already known to be true. But it'll connect a lot of the dots that, that have not been revealed in public before.

[Glenn Beck]

Are you sensing with, I mean, let's see, Mark Elias stop posting on X. Brennan has lawyered up. John Kerry has made his account private. Peter Strzok deleted his entire X history. Are you sensing they feel the walls are closing in?

[Tulsi Gabbard]

In my view that's the only way that I can read this situation. Those who are truly innocent would not be taking those kinds of actions. And once again, this is why it's so important to declassify this information to get the Truth out. Because it's something that, for anyone who is mildly objective, is irrefutable and undeniable and can be used and is currently being reviewed by the Department of Justice to bring about accountability for those involved.

[Glenn Beck]

We were talking before we went on the air, and I said, you know, I'm really, I'm struggling with my job right now because I don't. I don't. It at times doesn't seem like it. It's worth it. It makes any difference at all because I don't know what I believe in. I don't know what's true anymore. Tulsi. I don't know. You know, I can't sit here and on the air and talk about problems if there's not a solution. It feels insane. It feels insane. I keep doing the same thing over and over again, beating the head against the wall and saying, look at, here's proof, here's proof, here's proof. And nothing happens. Do you, do you sense that? Do you think the people around you understand how. What danger the country is in right now because they just don't believe there's justice on any front?

[Tulsi Gabbard]

Well, first, Glenn, let me just tell you how important your voice is. I think the first. I'm serious, I'm not just patronizing you. It is your voice and voices like yours where you have the ability to reach and impact people from all political stripes, different backgrounds, different walks of life across the country who are not paying as close attention. I'm just going to keep talking here. Who are not paying as close attention, not paying as close attention to these things in the way that you and your team are and your ability to communicate first, the first challenge and opportunity is to be able to communicate to the American people why they should care about this at all.

[Glenn Beck]

Right?

[Tulsi Gabbard]

What the implications of what we have released and exposed truly are, not just for President Trump, not just for Republicans or for Democrats, but for the integrity of our Democratic Republic and the tactics that are being used by the deep state and have been used in order to, in this case, essentially subvert the will of the American people. Because, you know, President Obama and his cohort were not happy that President Trump got elected. So the first thing is being able to really communicate clearly the implications of this on our republic. The second piece of this, yes, it is the accountability piece, and I understand the frustration.

[Glenn Beck]

But.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

But our system is set up in the way that it is by our visionary founding fathers. What we have to do is fulfill our duty focused on the Constitution and providing this mechanism for accountability for Accountability to take place and doing what the American people, people really have done best since the founding of our country, which is recognizing the power in each of our voices to make sure that we are calling for that necessary action to begin to restore that trust.

[Glenn Beck]

I'm sure you can relate. I mean, Dan Bongino posted a cryptic message on X the other day.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

I read it.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, he said. It shocked me. What I found out at my time at the FBI has shocked me down to the core. We cannot run a republic like this and I'll never be the same after learning what I've learned. I'm not expecting you to answer for him. But have you felt that way when you've gotten being there?

[Tulsi Gabbard]

I have seen up close and personal, the tactics that are used by those who care more for themselves, their ambition, their job, their influence, their political interests, their selfish self serving interests than they care about the Constitution. That every single one of these law enforcement and intelligence community professionals swear an oath just like I have, both in uniform, in the military and as a member of Congress and as Director of National Intelligence to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. This is why what we are doing matters so much. So, yes, I have my own frustrations, trust me, but my resolve is focused and is rooted in my love for our country and my belief in the values and principles that our country was founded upon. And therefore the responsibility that I carry to do something about that which we are revealing, that which I am seeing and experiencing firsthand. It is a heavy responsibility, but it's also an awesome one. And I spend every day doing my best to fulfill it.

[Glenn Beck]

You know, we've talked before and I've, I've said to you, you are in the second most dangerous job I think, in the nation. You know, President Trump is in the most dangerous job in the nation. And I think, you know, you're working around some, you know, people that do this kind of stuff for a living and we pray for your safety every night.

[Stu Burguiere]

You're listening to the Best of the Glenn Beck Podcast.

[Mike Lee]

Hear more of this interview and others.

[Glenn Beck]

With the full show podcast available wherever you get podcasts. All right, so Stu, let's play a game. Okay.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yes, I like games.

[Glenn Beck]

Which is Kamala Harris and which one did I make up? Okay, okay, two quotes.

[Stu Burguiere]

Two quotes.

[Glenn Beck]

One of them, Kamala Harris said. And the other one I made up.

[Stu Burguiere]

Okay, this is gonna be. This could be tough.

[Glenn Beck]

She spoke about her, her candidacy as the gubernatorial candidate in California.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yes.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay.

[Stu Burguiere]

She's not going to run. No, no, that's Sad.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay, so did she say, upon some deep reflection, for now, my leadership and public service will not be an elected office. Over the past few months, I've spent time reflecting on this moment in our nation's history. And the best way for me to continue fighting for the American people and advancing the values and ideals I hold dear is that Kamala Harris.

[Stu Burguiere]

Okay, that's option one.

[Glenn Beck]

Option two. So here's the thing. When we talk about leadership and being a leader who leads, we must understand that leadership is not always about the office you're elected to, but sometimes about the space that is not elected yet still leadership. And at this moment, which is a moment that comes after many other moments, I've been reflecting deeply, intentionally, profoundly on what it means to reflect as one does during reflection. And through that reflecting, I've come to understand that while I may not currently be in elected office, I'm still very much in a place of public service, which is service to the public for the people who are the American people, which is who we are. So I'll continue to do the work because the work must be done. And that work is working for the ideals and values that are ideal and have value. And those are the things that I hold and that I hold dear. Because if we don't hold them dear, how can we say they are dear to be held? I know. It's a tough. It's tough.

[Stu Burguiere]

It's a trick question.

[Glenn Beck]

It's a trick question.

[Stu Burguiere]

Neither of them are her. They're both too smart.

[Glenn Beck]

Exactly right.

[Stu Burguiere]

Oh, really?

[Glenn Beck]

Exactly right. One is obviously me, and the other one is. Is a press agent. Because there is absolutely no way she said the first one. No way.

[Stu Burguiere]

No, because she didn't repeat herself. No, she did. She once in there, though. I thought when you were reading it, I was like, gosh, I don't know that. That one.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. After some deep reflection, yes, for now, my leadership of public service will not be in elected office for over the six months I've spent time reflecting on this moment.

[Stu Burguiere]

So I was at that one. I was like, okay, that sounds. Could be the second one was a little long.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, but she would have said that if she would have said it on stage. That's exactly.

[Stu Burguiere]

What if it wasn't a canned press statement. If she was. If someone just randomly walked up to her and asked her, that's about what she'd come up.

[Glenn Beck]

Exactly what she would have come up.

[Stu Burguiere]

I like it.

[Glenn Beck]

Gosh darn it, California. Look at the good news. I mean, it couldn't get worse. I don't know about.

[Stu Burguiere]

I mean, would you rather have. Would you rather have your governor be Kamala Harris or Gavin Newsom? That's a. That's a. Legitimately another. That's another game.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Stu Burguiere]

Gavin Newsom or Kamala Harris is your governor. Has to be one of them. Who would you choose? That is really hard.

[Glenn Beck]

This is like.

[Stu Burguiere]

Wow, that's really hard.

[Glenn Beck]

Suicide by being shot or suicide by electrocuting yourself.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yes, it does. Yes.

[Glenn Beck]

Something like that.

[Stu Burguiere]

I think I would pick Kamala because I feel like while both are awful and both want terrible policies to be passed and enforced, Gavin feels more competently evil than Kamala.

[Glenn Beck]

She's more like a clown car.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yes. Like, it would be a joke and things wouldn't go well.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, it wouldn't. But, you know, not that they're going well in California now.

[Stu Burguiere]

No.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Stu Burguiere]

Well, that's. Oh, that's what I mean. I think it would be. He'd be worse. I wouldn't want Patrick Bateman in American Psycho running my state. Sound great.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay.

[Stu Burguiere]

Okay.

[Mike Lee]

All right.

[Stu Burguiere]

Can I give you a third game?

[Glenn Beck]

Okay. Third game.

[Stu Burguiere]

Third game.

[Glenn Beck]

Wow.

[Stu Burguiere]

Are you ready for game number three?

[Glenn Beck]

Game number three.

[Stu Burguiere]

Okay. Name.

[Glenn Beck]

Name the year. The year of this headline. Of this headline.

[Stu Burguiere]

Are you ready? How conspiracy theories about Covid's origins are hampering our ability to prevent the next pandemic.

[Glenn Beck]

Wait, say it again.

[Stu Burguiere]

How conspiracy theories about Covid's origins are hampering our ability to prevent the next pandemic. I'll give you some options. 2020, 2021.

[Glenn Beck]

2021.

[Stu Burguiere]

Probably 2022, 2023, 2024, or 2025. Those are your options.

[Glenn Beck]

The way be surprised if it's even been written yet.

[Mike Lee]

Right?

[Stu Burguiere]

That is. Yes.

[Glenn Beck]

But I mean, if you're going to say logically, 2021, 2022.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah. Maybe even 2020.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Stu Burguiere]

Right. Like. Okay. Because there, you know.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, you're right.

[Stu Burguiere]

A lot of conspiracy theories about the very beginning.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah. And maybe it trickled into 2021. I feel like 2022 would be pushing it.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Stu Burguiere]

2023, we kind of already had passed it. 2024 would be completely insane.

[Glenn Beck]

We all admitted it. Even. Even the New York Times, everybody admitted. Yep, yep. All intelligence agencies say it came from Wuhan. Yeah. In a lab. The answer is today. Today, Today, Today.

[Stu Burguiere]

What is the story? It is how conspiracy theories about Covid's origins are hampering our ability to prevent the next pandemic. One of the authors, by the way. Well, a couple of authors of note, I would say one is Christian Andersen, who is in the emails from 2020.

[Glenn Beck]

Talking about, wasn't he the guy who was like, hey, I think this has.

[Stu Burguiere]

He was one of the guys saying like, hey, this could be lab leak, right?

[Glenn Beck]

And then changed, right?

[Stu Burguiere]

And then changed mysteriously. No one really understands it.

[Glenn Beck]

Cha Ching.

[Stu Burguiere]

Another guy is Andrew Rambo, who is not like, you know, Sylvester Stallone Rambo.

[Glenn Beck]

R A M B O.

[Stu Burguiere]

He's like a R A M B A U T. Like the Renault Rambo Rumbo.

[Glenn Beck]

He is like the one. I am up in the woods, living in the cave. I surrender. I surrender. Whatever the town wants to do, I will do.

[Stu Burguiere]

The worst Rambo sequel ever. A French Rambo. An instantly surrendering Rambo.

[Glenn Beck]

Take my guns. I hate them. I hate these guys.

[Stu Burguiere]

The super exciting but like, dramatic scene that they build to is him just putting down all of his weapons.

[Glenn Beck]

He comes out, he still has the bandana around his head. I surrender to a mime last week, but unbelievable.

[Stu Burguiere]

And they're trying to say it's crazy. You're nuts if you believe the lab leak theory. That's today. Today.

[Glenn Beck]

And you know what? Also today in the New York Times is a op ed from. Is it Brennan and Clapper who were saying, this is just the weaponization of government? This is. Look at what they're doing. This is.

[Stu Burguiere]

Oh, no, they don't.

[Glenn Beck]

They don't like the weaponization of government. This is just a conspiracy theory. That's all this is.

[Stu Burguiere]

Are you serious?

[Glenn Beck]

I'm serious. In today's New York Times. In today's.

[Stu Burguiere]

Can't take it.

[Glenn Beck]

Let me give you this. Yesterday, we are living in clown world. Yesterday, Donald Trump was talking about maybe giving a pardon to Diddy because he was charged with the Mann act.

[Stu Burguiere]

Was he? Yeah. Was he actually talking about that or was just rumored?

[Glenn Beck]

Rumored?

[Stu Burguiere]

It does feel like when you get a Donald Trump pardoning rumor.

[Glenn Beck]

Yes.

[Stu Burguiere]

A lot of times, usually like, it does feel like a lot of times it happens.

[Glenn Beck]

So you can't verify that it came from it, but rumor is that he's going to be because he was. He was arrested on the man act. Now, if you don't know the man act, if you're my age, you say, I don't. I don't, I don't. I don't think I've ever heard of the man act. Oh, yes, you have. Yes, you have. From a very famous scene from that documentary called Smokey and the Bandit. Listen, who you chasing?

[Mike Lee]

Somebody chasing you?

[Character from Smokey and the Bandit]

Nobody's chasing me, boy. I would chase my mania all the way from Texarkana Texas.

[Mike Lee]

Really?

[Character from Smokey and the Bandit]

Was he a bank robber? Bank robber? Bank robber is baby. Alongside of what this dude is doing. Almost killed funny law officer. Driving through people's backyard, knocking down mailboxes. Got abroad in the car, Took across the state, do got the man out.

[Mike Lee]

That's the man.

[Character from Smokey and the Bandit]

I don't think he's got a permission. And that's good. None. How's that behind you? Oh, let me pay for it.

[Glenn Beck]

Let me pay for.

[Stu Burguiere]

No, no, no.

[Character from Smokey and the Bandit]

You're an officer of the law. I. I'd be honored. Much obliged. Where's the can? I got to take the squirt.

[Mike Lee]

I'll right back. Oh.

[Character from Smokey and the Bandit]

Hey.

[Glenn Beck]

What are you doing in my car?

[Character from Smokey and the Bandit]

You're going the wrong way.

[Mike Lee]

Bo, Hang on.

[Character from Smokey and the Bandit]

What the are you doing?

[Glenn Beck]

Justice is in there.

[Character from Smokey and the Bandit]

I know, I know.

[Glenn Beck]

I love that movie. You've seen it? A long time ago. Oh, my gosh. It's worth watching with your kids.

[Mike Lee]

Really.

[Glenn Beck]

It is one of our favorite movies.

[Stu Burguiere]

It is his.

[Glenn Beck]

Hysterical. It's just hysterical. Jackie Gleason at his absolute best. I'm going barbecue your ass. It is so full of laughs. I just love it. But there's the man act.

[Stu Burguiere]

So the man act. And the man act was taking someone across state lines, which is always the weirdest thing. That's the most concerning thing. The law. The law is like, you can do whatever you want inside a state, but if you take them across state lines, that's.

[Glenn Beck]

No, no, no, no.

[Stu Burguiere]

That's what they always get them on. It's always. It's always like a trafficking charge.

[Glenn Beck]

Who gets them on?

[Stu Burguiere]

Is that the feds?

[Glenn Beck]

The feds. Otherwise, it's state and state. It's. That's how the fed. That's how you know, Remember? That's. What was that? Shoot. I can't remember the Supreme Court ruling from the 1930s where the guy was growing wheat.

[Stu Burguiere]

Right.

[Glenn Beck]

Remember? And he's growing wheat. Yeah. Commerce clause. And he's growing wheat on his own farm. Yes. But it could be taken across state lines, and so the federal government has to regulate it.

[Stu Burguiere]

Wasn't it Even more ridiculous, wasn't it? You selling it within your state could manipulate the market in other states.

[Glenn Beck]

I think it might be.

[Stu Burguiere]

I think it was. Yeah. At least that was one of those cases. Gosh, I can't remember. You're right. I can't remember. I'm too tired to remember the name of that case. But that was, I think, what it was because he wanted to sell it in his own state.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Stu Burguiere]

He's like, okay, this got nothing to do with interstate commerce. They're like, well, if you sell a bunch of wheat here, could lower the price in another state.

[Glenn Beck]

That's crazy. It's crazy. All those stuff has to be overturned. If you would just overturn that.

[Stu Burguiere]

That's a big one.

[Glenn Beck]

That would be a big one because you would just, you would cut down the power of the federal government so much. So much. And of course, remember, we're all anti government here. You know, that's all we, you know, forget, forget antifa. You know, forget the people who are actually shooting at ice. Nah, it's us. We're the anti government people.

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