Best of the Program | Guests: Sharyl Attkisson & Vickie Paladino | 6/4/26

Summary

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The Glenn Beck Program – Best of the Program

Guests: Sharyl Attkisson & Vickie Palladino
Date: June 4, 2026

Overview

In this episode of “The Glenn Beck Program,” Glenn Beck delivers a passionate monologue on the dangers of politicizing Christianity and the infiltration of ideological narratives from both the historical left and the contemporary right. The episode features investigative journalist Sharyl Attkisson discussing recent shakeups at CBS and 60 Minutes, media bias, and the transformation of journalism. Later, New York City Councilwoman Vickie Palladino joins to talk about the challenges facing American politics, including concerns over individuals with extremist links gaining political power, media manipulation, and the critical importance of staying vigilant for the nation’s future.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The "Third Temptation": Narrative Laundering and Politicized Christianity

(00:30–17:44)

The Origin and Spread of New Ideological Narratives

• Glenn and Brian discuss conservative commentator Candace Owens' trip to Russia, where she appeared (contrary to her initial "vacation" story) as a speaker at a Kremlin forum featuring Alexander Dugin, a philosopher sometimes known as "Putin's brain."
  • Glenn Beck (03:54): “You strip the fingerprints off the message and you slip it in the mouth of somebody you already trust. So it doesn't sound like it's foreign. It sounds like home.”
• Beck outlines how ideologies originating abroad (in this case, Russia) are subtly inserted into American conservative spheres, using trusted voices to "launder" the narrative.

False Dualities and the Temptation of Power

• Beck examines the question posed by these philosophies: “Does your faith come first, or your country?” He describes this as a false and divisive choice aimed at Christian patriots.
  • Glenn Beck (04:22): “It gets in not through an enemy in a foreign uniform, but through allies waving our own flag and quoting our own scriptures. It was built to fool people, exactly like you and me.”
• He draws a parallel to liberation theology (historically left-wing), warning about a new right-wing version that similarly politicizes faith—arguing its danger lies in convincing the faithful to seek a worldly “Christian” kingdom at the expense of gospel truths.

The Dangers of Uniting Church and State

• Beck insists conflating Christianity with temporal power, whether under a Marxist or Russian model, leads to spiritual capture, not salvation.
  • Glenn Beck (13:15): “A faith made into a department of government. Its shepherds reading the regime script. The gospel reduced to a flag. That is not Christianity protected. That is Christianity stuffed and mounted on your wall.”
• He advocates a return to the American principle of religious liberty:
  • Glenn Beck (15:58): “It’ll never come from the government. Heck, it barely comes from our churches. It comes from the individuals reading their scriptures and personally connecting to Christ.”

Call to Individual Renewal Over Collective Power

• Beck's core message is that freedom and revival start personally, not through state power or authoritarian saviors.
  • Glenn Beck (17:35): “But it is the right road... Your soul has a very dear price tag on it. Do not sell it for cheap tricks and trinkets.”

Memorable Quotes:

• “The disease is real, which is exactly why the counterfeit is so dangerous.” (09:46)
• “A church taken into the arms of the state is not a rescued church. It's a captured one.” (13:11)

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2. Sharyl Attkisson on CBS, Journalism, and 60 Minutes

(19:41–31:42)

Inside CBS and 60 Minutes Leadership

• Sharyl disputes the long-held belief she worked at 60 Minutes, clarifying internal politics kept her off the flagship show despite her body of work.
  • Cheryl Attkisson (20:26): “Believe it or not, Never worked on 60 Minutes in all those years... Very segmented organization. There was somebody at some level that did not want me contributing to 60 Minutes.”
• She explains Scott Pelley's problematic anchor tenure, his micromanagement, and his interference with investigative journalism.
  • Cheryl Attkisson (22:27): “He was interfering with the correspondent stories in a way that was not productive. And longtime CBS names ...were complaining...”

Media Culture Wars and Reform

• Discussion of Bari Weiss’ efforts to move CBS back toward journalistic fairness, despite backlash from entrenched staff and public figures. Attkisson notes Weiss faces an uphill battle from within.
  • Cheryl Attkisson (26:08): “I believe that most likely, based on my experience, they were trying to make the stories more balanced and fair and the culture among some at CBS...was not to do so.”
  • Cheryl Attkisson (29:04): “They want to tug their organizations back closer to the middle. They know they have a problem. But...internally, she [Weiss] is murdered...by those who don't want to change.”
• Attkisson expresses cautious optimism that 60 Minutes' legacy and model could be revived, emphasizing the continued appetite for balanced investigative journalism.

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3. Vickie Palladino: Political Infiltration, Public Fatigue, and Media Manipulation

(33:17–45:54)

Alarm over Extremism in Politics

• Palladino details the rise of a candidate in New Jersey’s 12th District with deep connections to radical Islamist figures. She raises security concerns about admitting such individuals to Congress, especially in areas affected by 9/11.
  • Vicki Palladino (37:12): “We've just...I said earlier today...you could make a case that Osama bin Laden has either won or is winning.”

Institutional Weakness and Constitutional Challenges

• Palladino emphasizes, in her view, the weakness of Democratic leadership and the broader failure to prevent dangerous individuals from gaining power.
  • Vicki Palladino (37:25): “Our constitution...is not a suicide pact...we have people who don't want to challenge this in any way, shape or form that sits in government right now.”
• She notes procedural safeguards—if the GOP holds the House, the candidate can be blocked from being seated.

Media’s Role in Political and Cultural Shift

• Both Vickie and Glenn critique the mainstream media’s role in shaping public opinion and suppressing dissenting or moderate voices.
  • Vicki Palladino (43:09): “This is media driven propaganda. Just like in communism. You know, they don't hear the other side, our side.”
• Palladino urges “truth tellers” to engage and educate swing voters, particularly disaffected or moderate Democrats, to build a successful resistance to the far left.

Urban Governance and Grassroots Strategy

• Palladino highlights her electoral success as a Republican in a deep-blue New York City district, stressing the value of education and direct engagement with moderate opposition voters.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Glenn Beck (04:04): “The payload was a single engineered question. Does your faith come first or your country?...a false choice built to set the two great loves of a Christian patriot at war with each other.”
• Glenn Beck (13:36): “Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's. Render unto God what is God’s. The whole con depends on you forgetting where that line is drawn.”
• Sharyl Attkisson (26:08): “Showing the other side of a story...does not weaken the story. It strengthens the story.”
• Vickie Palladino (37:25): “Our Constitution, it's not a suicide pact...we have people who don't want to challenge this in any way, shape or form that sits in government right now.”
• Vickie Palladino (40:12): “Anybody who speaks out as I have...People need to know—an educated voter is the best voter.”

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Important Timestamps

• 00:30–17:44: Glenn Beck’s monologue on narrative laundering, the “third temptation,” and dangers of politicizing Christianity
• 19:41–31:42: Sharyl Attkisson on CBS, media bias, and the revival of 60 Minutes
• 33:17–45:54: Vickie Palladino on extremist infiltration in politics, civic fatigue, failures of leadership, and media manipulation

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Conclusion: Tone & Takeaways

The episode balances Beck’s impassioned warning about spiritual and political temptation with journalistic insights from Sharyl Attkisson and ground-level political realism from Vickie Palladino. The central thread is vigilance—against foreign narrative manipulation, the co-opting of faith for political goals, biased media, and complacency among the public and civic leaders. Listeners are urged to return to foundational American virtues: individual faith, personal responsibility, and active engagement in self-governance. The tone is urgent, introspective, and rooted in a deep skepticism of both governmental power and mainstream narratives.

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Transcript

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[Glenn Beck]

All right.

[Brian]

This is a great podcast for you. Today. We have Vicki Palladino on from New York. She's a city councilwoman in New York City. It's nuts in New York City. She's a straight talker. Also, Cheryl Atkinson on what's happening behind the scenes CBS and 60 Minutes. Some real insight there.

[Glenn Beck]

And the third temptation.

[Brian]

There is something that is coming out of the former Soviet Union that is infecting our churches and our PODC on the right. And you need to recognize it.

[Glenn Beck]

But the good news is you've already

[Brian]

seen this movie before and you've already recognized it and seen it for what it is. It's changed faces and approach, but it is the same sin underneath. It's the third temptation. We begin there. On today's podcast,

[Cheryl Atkinson]

You're listening to the Best of the Glenn Beck Program.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay. Yesterday I started telling you about this trip. There's a [e-mail] it is a must read.

[Brian]

I don't tell you that very often that these are things that you must read. This is one.

[Glenn Beck]

You must be aware of this. This is the line that will decide. I believe one of the crucial lines

[Brian]

will decide whether you're on the right side or the wrong side.

[Glenn Beck]

Even the very elect are going to be misled.

[Brian]

Okay. And it's going to get harder and

[Glenn Beck]

harder to see the truth. So let me recap. Yesterday I told you one of the

[Brian]

most followed conservative voices in America, Candace Owens, announced a quiet family vacation in Russia. She was going to go see the cathedrals. She was saying it's a little faith tourism with her husband. Nothing wrong with that.

[Glenn Beck]

And a handful of researchers did something

[Brian]

that I said yesterday was almost embarrassingly simple.

[Glenn Beck]

They just read the program,

[Brian]

a program she was listed in as a speaker

[Glenn Beck]

at the Kremlin's flagship forum. You know, one of Vladimir Putin's headlines, a few names down from Vladimir Putin

[Brian]

is the Russian philosopher Alexander Dugin. Now on that same roster is Candace Owens. And she said she was going to meet Alexander Dugan and maybe talk to him, yada, yada, this is really bad. Really bad.

[Glenn Beck]

The thread the researchers pulled didn't lead to her.

[Brian]

However, it led back to him, the man they call Putin's brain, who wrote back in 1997, the way to break

[Glenn Beck]

America was to feed divisions and. And flatter its urge to retreat from the world. Then he also casts Russia as the holy restrainer in a final war against the satanic West. And it that satanic west and the Jewish Antichrist that will come from apparently

[Brian]

America or siding with us, is going

[Glenn Beck]

to be fought by Russia, the right Christians that have teamed up with Islam. Okay? And I told you how this idea, written in Moscow, can end up in your earbuds in Ohio listening to a

[Brian]

podcast, and it's called narrative laundering.

[Glenn Beck]

You strip the fingerprints off the message and you slip it in the mouth of somebody you already trust.

[Brian]

So it doesn't sound like it's foreign.

[Glenn Beck]

It sounds like home.

[Brian]

And voila. Okay.

[Glenn Beck]

The payload was a single engineered question. Does your faith come first or your country? Which, I told you yesterday, is a false choice built to set the two great loves of a Christian patriot at

[Brian]

war with each other.

[Glenn Beck]

And the most uncomfortable part was where it gets in not through an enemy

[Brian]

in a foreign uniform, but through allies

[Glenn Beck]

waving our own flag and quoting our own scriptures. It was built to fool people, exactly like you and me. Luckily, I have been watching this guy,

[Brian]

Alexander Dugan, for years.

[Glenn Beck]

I've been warning you for years. He is about to set. He is. I shouldn't say about. He is on center stage now in much of the right and in Christendom. So I want to show you today. I want to take it from a different angle. I want to show you the same thing, but from a different angle, because people in this audience already diagnosed this disease once before. You just didn't know you were being trained to recognize it. So let me help you recognize what you're facing by showing you what you've already recognized. Do you remember when we started talking

[Brian]

about Barack Obama in 2007 and 8? And we found Jeremiah Wright, and we

[Glenn Beck]

heard crazy things coming from the pulpit with Jeremiah Wright. We did our homework. What is that? That's liberation theology. Okay? It swept through the church in the last century, but you hopefully were not fooled. You saw it for what it was. Marxism in a cassock. The cross traded for the hammer and sickle. Salvation redefined as revolution. Remember, it takes the gospel from a personal salvation goal to a collective salvation goal. God doesn't save us collectively. He saves us individually. And when you get this, when you get liberation theology, the kingdom of God collapses into a five year plan and the Gospel is reduced to a means and a political ends. Okay, you knew that a faith bent into a weapon for the class struggle. Struggle had to. It had already stopped being faithful and it had to be stopped because it's not faith. Even the Vatican said so. Cardinal Ratson Ratzinger himself warned that you

[Brian]

can't borrow, you know, categories of marks and still be preaching Christ. You can't. So you are right.

[Glenn Beck]

You got liberation theology. Hold on to that clarity for one

[Brian]

more minute because you're going to need it.

[Glenn Beck]

Because the same offer has just come back around now, new and improved. And this time it's not coming from the left, it's coming from the right. And it's coming for you. And it's not arriving with a red star.

[Brian]

It arrives under a golden dome.

[Glenn Beck]

It doesn't say seize the means of production. It says restore the Christian civilization. It doesn't quote Marx, it quotes our church fathers. And it is aimed with great precision and at the one group who would never fall for the left wing version, at the faithful, the traditional, the patriotic Christian who has spent his whole life resisting exactly this kind of maneuver from the other direction. So here's what you have to see because you of all people are equipped to see it. It's exactly the same heresy. Liberation theology politicized the faith and dragged it left. The this new thing politicizes the faith and drags it to the right. But the sin underneath is identical. Taking the kingdom that is not of this world and nailing it to a kingdom that is of this world. Remember, this new philosophy is you got to get in with the Russians, you got to get in with a Christian prince, because only this kingdom of the world will save the next kingdom. You know, that's garbage. And the moment you turn the internal into a tool of the temporal, you've handed someone else the handle. And in this case, the someone holding that handle sits in Moscow. The liberation theologians thought they were using Marxism.

[Brian]

Marxism was using them.

[Glenn Beck]

And I'm telling you that the man selling the Czar to the rescue of Christendom are running exactly the same play. And the the faithful are meant to be the instrument, not the author. Let me tell you something that cynics

[Brian]

will never say to you.

[Glenn Beck]

I respect you too much to flatter

[Brian]

or to lie to you.

[Glenn Beck]

And here's what everyone who will stand against this will not say. And it must be said. This new theology that is coming out extraordinarily dangerous is going to capture a

[Brian]

lot of People, including people like you and me.

[Glenn Beck]

Because it's grievance. It starts on grievance. They're not wrong about the culture. There is something in our culture, our entertainment, our schools, our screens, our institutions that has set itself against Christ, not always in name, sometimes in name, but always in spirit, in its teachings and its trappings. And the ache that you feel that.

[Brian]

That.

[Glenn Beck]

That you are looking at Antichrist stuff coming from our culture. That's not paranoia and it's not nostalgia. It's like, I remember Leave it to Beaver. They would have never done. No, no, this is. This is discernment screaming at you. And the disease is real, which is exactly why the counterfeit is so dangerous. Remember, the author of all lies, he doesn't make things out of whole cloth. A lie that works is never built on a false diagnosis. It's built on a true diagnosis. Diagnosis welded to a cure that is poison. You will see. And I've got a monologue on this. Maybe. Maybe next week. I just. I'm running out of time this week, but I was thinking about this yesterday, and I started doing some research on all of the people that have diagnosed the sickness. But it was the medicine that was poison.

[Brian]

Okay?

[Glenn Beck]

Liberation theology was right. The poor were crushed. This movement is right. The culture is evil. But a correct diagnosis is the bait,

[Brian]

as it always is.

[Glenn Beck]

So let me name the cure for what it. What it is in the oldest terms we have. Okay? So somebody has diagnosed the problem. Right now they're giving you a solution. Let me name the cure for what it is. There is a moment in the wilderness when Satan takes Christ up to a high place and shows him all the kingdoms in the world in all their glory, and he makes him an offer. All of this I'll give to you the power, the victory, the restored dominion.

[Brian]

Just bow down to me.

[Glenn Beck]

That is the offer on the table right now to all of Christian civilization. It will all be handed back to you. Your enemies routed, your culture, war won, not in a generation of patient labor, but in a stroke. All of it. You just bow to me. You just bow to the strongman. You just bow to Mother Russia. You bow to the Christian empire. Trade your birthright of ordered liberty for a guarantee of victory. Christ was shown that exact deal, and he refused it. Not because the kingdoms weren't real, but because the price was everything that mattered. You shall worship the Lord your God,

[Brian]

and him only shall you serve.

[Glenn Beck]

Not the Czar, not the empire, not the man who promises to do the fighting for you. I don't care if It's Putin or Trump. We do not need a Christian prince. We need Christians that understand what it means to be a Christian. And the power of Christ alone and the power of living your life the right way and living your life more like him and serving him. Understand what the rescue actually does. It's not saving anything. The rescue from Christ does. A church taken into the arms of the state is not a rescued church. It's a captured one.

[Brian]

Look east and you'll see the autopsy.

[Glenn Beck]

A faith made into a department of government. It's shepherds reading the regime script. The gospel reduced to a flag. That is not Christianity protected. That is Christianity stuffed and mounted on your wall. A faith that you are forced to profess is not a faith at all. And a kingdom handed to you by

[Brian]

Caesar was never the kingdom of God.

[Glenn Beck]

Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's. Render unto God what is God? The whole con depends on you forgetting where that line is drawn. It depends on you being so overwhelmed by the evil in this culture, the culture that has turned against Christ, and it has. And us being afraid, us not recognizing the power of our own Christianity, the power of our own Christ and Savior, that we'll look to a man to fight it. A man who does not believe in individual rights. Everything, everything in the gospel is about the individual. Everything, Nothing is about the collective. This is all about the collective and not the individual.

[Brian]

So how do we fight?

[Glenn Beck]

Well, we fight the American way. Because the people who founded this country already handed us the best weapon. They forged it for exactly this hour. Our founders were not naive about virtue. They knew a free republic can't run on machinery. And we let the machinery run. John Adams said it. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people, wholly in adequate

[Brian]

government for for any other.

[Glenn Beck]

Washington, in his farewell, said religion and morality the indispensable supports for political prosperity. They both agreed with your diagnosis two centuries ago. A free people must be a good people, or they won't be free. But then they did the thing the czars and the commissars would never understand. They secured the faith by refusing it, by refusing to let the government own it. No established church, free exercise for every conscience. Religion in America grew strong precisely because it stayed free. The Tocqueville came looking for a secret and found it. He said it was in our churches. Europe was withering under the protection of the state, while free churches in America were on fire. State religion is a hot house that kills the plant. Liberty is the open field where it

[Brian]

grows wild and deep.

[Glenn Beck]

It'll never come from the government. Heck, it barely comes from our churches. It comes from the individuals reading their scriptures and personally connecting to Christ. The Russian model is the old European error. With a volume turned all the way up to scream marry the altar to the throne. Watch the throne devour the altar. America, we tried something braver. We bet that faith held by free men by persuasion and conviction, not by decree, would outlast any empire. And we've done it for 250 years. That bet is paid. Now we just need to replenish. We just need to renew it. We just need to go back to God. We need to humble ourselves as individuals. That's the road. Not a kingdom handed down from above, but a renewal built from below. Free churches, strong families, school tools that actually shape persuasion instead of coercion. The slow, unglamorous, deeply American work of governing ourselves. Starting with the hardest government at all.

[Brian]

The government of our own appetites.

[Glenn Beck]

You want to push back on the culture gone Antichrist.

[Brian]

You don't need a czar. You need a revival. And no government on earth will ever command a revival. No commissar investments can ever fake one. This road is harder than the other road.

[Glenn Beck]

But it is the right road.

[Brian]

Your soul has a very dear price tag on it.

[Glenn Beck]

Do not sell it.

[Brian]

Do not sell it for cheap tricks and trinkets.

[Glenn Beck]

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[Brian]

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[Glenn Beck]

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[Glenn Beck]

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[Brian]

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Rate, review, share together, we'll make a difference. And thanks for standing with us. Now, let's get to work. Okay. Cheryl Atkinson, one of the best, if not the best investigative reporter I know. She is the host of Full Measure. She used to be on 60 Minutes. She worked at CBS. She has had an amazing story of, of the government spying on her, her own network coming after her and surviving all of that. And not just surviving, thriving with that. Cheryl, welcome to the program.

[Cheryl Atkinson]

Welcome. May I amend one thing you said? I, believe it or not, Never worked on 60 Minutes in all those years and all that investigative reporting.

[Glenn Beck]

I thought you did.

[Brian]

I'm sorry, I stand corrected.

[Glenn Beck]

No, I thought you did.

[Cheryl Atkinson]

Very segmented organization. And there was somebody at some level that did not want me contributing to 60 Minutes. I did. When, when there were 60 Minutes, too, before the Dan Rather scandal, Deep Six, that show. I was working on two pieces for that program and then it got canceled. And then, yeah, never, never worked on 60 Minutes.

[Brian]

Well, I want to talk to you about 60 Minutes and Barry Weiss and what is happening because Barry is trying to change the culture in cbs. I think she's doing a great job. For the first time ever, or at least in a very long time. I actually will look at stories from CBS News and I'll give it a, I'll at least give it a read where before it was just like, I don't, I don't believe anything they say and I don't agree with everything, but I don't expect to agree with everything that a journalist is going to write. I just would like fair, you know, reporting. So she, the story is she just appointed a new producer for 60 Minutes and Scott Pelley, who you Know, one of the lead guys there, he said, this guy's gonna kill 60 minutes, blah, blah, blah. There's a big showdown, you know, I guess, in the newsroom, and he's fired. And now Pelly is upset and making a big deal. The left is upset about all of this. I mean, Ben Rhodes came out and he was like, I can't believe. This is just. This is incredible. Ben, talk to your brother. Your brother took Pelly off of the anchor job because apparently, I mean, I

[Glenn Beck]

don't know this, but at least David

[Brian]

Rhodes had real issues with Peli as well.

[Glenn Beck]

Do you have any insight on any of this?

[Cheryl Atkinson]

I do. I mean, Scott Pelley was not a popular anchor in terms of his skill as an anchor as well as his personality. And I can't explain why he persisted in the chair for some years anyway, because, gosh, quite a while before they removed him, I was told by a level above David Rose that they were trying to fix what they called the Scott Pelley problem. And I don't know what keeps somebody in place when they think there's an issue, but one of the issues they had with him was, as it was told to me, he takes his managing editor role too seriously. He was interfering with the correspondent stories in a way that was not productive. And the veterans were complaining. And longtime CBS names that you would recognize were complaining to the high executives about this. My experience was when. When they named him, I was told by higher ups, this new show without Katie Couric with Scott Pelley, is going to be all about what you do, your investigative reporting, even more so. I was already having a great career there. But they said now with Scott Pelley there, boy, this show is going to be all about what you do. And the very first week, the very first investigative piece, one of the best ones I think I ever did, that I offered them. He censored, never aired. And that was the pattern and the story, for me at least, of Scott Pelly at the anchor desk.

[Glenn Beck]

Was that the Boeing story?

[Brian]

The Dreamliner story?

[Cheryl Atkinson]

No, Boeing was one of it. That came later. The first one was a story expose I did on the travel group called People to People that, as it turns out, was luring high school students into. It was nothing more than a travel agency under the auspices of a nonprofit using the Dwight Eisenhower name and his daughter or granddaughter's, you know, reputation to convince children in high school that they had been chosen to be ambassadors on these amazing global trips, when, in fact, they were just using lists. These kids weren't honored or nominated by Their teachers, as they claimed, and they were getting kids to go on these trips and the kids were getting injured. Some of them were getting killed. It was all a big bait.

[Glenn Beck]

Why was that?

[Brian]

Why did he.

[Glenn Beck]

Did he say why he canceled that or.

[Cheryl Atkinson]

I never did. One of my producers listen, I even found a member of Congress had sent letters out under. There were names out under her name advocating for this group, telling students, you should go. And I learned and exposed that they had forged her name. And I even got her on camera saying so, which she didn't originally want to do. It was a great story. It was never explained to me. We call it, my producer and I at the time, the deaths by a thousand cuts. He would. He would want to change this or want to change that. Well, let's not mention the deaths. Well, let's not do this. Rewrite it again. And you started to understand they would never say there was anything wrong with the story. Quite the opposite. They would say, this is a brilliant story. This is a great story. We're going to save it for next week. Just do this, do that. And it would never air. And that was the story of people. I don't know if it was people connected at a higher level that didn't want these stories to air. There were, outside the lobbying cbs.

[Brian]

He says that what Barry is doing is. Is censoring the stories. And I think he said that management had instructed me to inject lies into my reporting. Yada, yada, yada. Do you believe any of that?

[Cheryl Atkinson]

No, I don't. I believe that most likely, based on my experience, they were trying to make the stories more balanced and fair and the culture among some at cbs. And I think it's gotten worse since I left was not to do so. And I think they don't understand or came to not understand the very basic tenets of journalism, which I worked really hard. Not that I always understood this, but I really tried to grow and understand and listen to criticism over the years. Showing the other side of a story, even if you strongly believe in one side you're telling, does not weaken the story. It strengthens the story. Even if you're a liberal and you're telling a liberal perspective, the liberals in the audience actually appreciate knowing what the other side of the argument is. And I think Bari Weiss is simply trying to tug CBS News back a little bit closer to the center. But the inmates have been running that asylum for a long time, and they're not going to go down quietly, you know, down this new path.

[Brian]

Is it too late to save the 60 minutes. I mean, I read that they were looking to put things now, you know, online. I mean, it seems like they have a real plan to bring it into the, you know, 21st century and revive it. And I don't think losing some of these, you know, names forever that are associated with television is not. I don't necessarily think that's bad. If they can get the formula right, which I always thought 60 Minutes was always very fair. I mean, you know, you were on 60 Minutes, you were in trouble because they had the goods on you and it was balanced. You know, they would. They would say, look, the other side

[Glenn Beck]

says this, and they would really do their homework.

[Brian]

I think there's a craving for that kind of work. But can 60 Minutes do it?

[Cheryl Atkinson]

I think so. I think it's got a huge name. I think the name 60 minutes is bigger than any personality that's been there in recent years. It hasn't been the 60 Minutes that we knew, Glenn, since they lost all the originals. So it's always been something that's in transition in the past 10, 20, 25 years. And, yes, I think the name survives the personalities. And they still do some. As I heard someone note, many of their stories that are unrelated to these political slants that you're talking about are great stories. They still do good stories and can continue to do great journalism with other people, you know, other producers and other reporters. There's. There's not a short supply of people who want to do great journalism. They're just not allowed to do that the way they used to be at the networks.

[Brian]

If you got a call today from Barry or the new producer, and they said, we want you to come back to 60 Minutes, or why don't you come back to CBS and to do 60 Minutes, would you even consider it?

[Cheryl Atkinson]

I couldn't now because I'm in contract. I'm doing at least one more year of my TV program, number one. Number two, I did get a call about a year ago asking about my availability for a leadership role at cbs, cnn, Washington Post, Berkeley School of Graduate Journalism and abc. You know, they're all, this is what's talking to me, but good. They want to. I'm talking about the corporate executive level, not the newsroom. As I said, they want to tug their organizations back closer to the middle. They know they have a problem. But as I told the person that I was speaking to about these opportunities, this is going to take somebody, I hope Bari Weiss can do it, that can stand up and then get the support as the. As Internally, she is murdered, you know, symbolically, by those who don't want to change. She's got to stand firm and continue to get the support of the higher ups, despite the publicity that will be generated against her and everything else. That's a tough job that I didn't think I could do, time wise and everything else. I hope she can. And I would love to do stories for 60 minutes, you know, in some capacity if I weren't committed to something else, because I do. I do believe in them and the mission and the program is awesome. And I think it will survive. And I think they're thinking about the way to make it survive and be better, which is great.

[Brian]

I have to tell you, I, I was shocked to see Barry Weiss go to CBS and all the moves that I've seen her make. I just think she's doing incredible work. I don't agree with everything, obviously, but I think she's doing incredible work. Yeoman's work. I mean, I don't know how she, I don't know how she does it every day. You know, there's, I know you, you know, this feeling there's a way you walk into a room every single day where you know all your co workers hate your guts. I worked at cnn. I know that feeling. It's hard. That is really hard.

[Cheryl Atkinson]

That's right. She's got to be tough, tough, tough. And I don't know the man that they appointed to lead 60 minutes, but just on paper, he sounds like a great choice. He's just not vested in the old system and the old people in a way that makes him more objective about the decisions he's going to make for the good of the show and nothing else. You know, there's no other baggage, you know, dragging him down, making him make decisions that might not be the best for what he thinks is the program.

[Brian]

Cheryl, thank you so much. Always good to talk to you. All my best.

[Cheryl Atkinson]

Thanks, Brian. Thanks.

[Brian]

You bet. Cheryl Atkinson, investigative reporter, host of Full Measure. You can find her on our website@Cheryl Atkinson.com or on X at Cheryl spelled with a Y and an S. S, H A R, Y, L. I guess I should spell it. Cheryl Atkinson. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. We're just a few months out from the midterms now and you know, I know the results from that might be not, maybe not what we want.

[Glenn Beck]

Could be.

[Brian]

I mean, it is really, to me, this is a coin toss at this point. It seemed really bad and now it might seem like maybe the country wakes up through some of this stuff, I don't know. It's important to realize that change can happen and it can happen for the better. And that kind of change comes from you and me. If you are in a fight against leftism and you want the Republic, you want the Constitution and the Declaration to rule supreme, then we have to do everything we can. And one of those things you can do is change your mobile phone carrier. These giant mobile phone companies, they are giving all kinds of money to causes that you would never, ever give to. Patriot Mobile has dependable nationwide coverage so you can access any of the three major networks without giving all that money so they can give it to leftist causes. Go to patriotmobile.com beck or call 972 Patriot. Make sure you use the promo code Beck. You'll get a free month of service.

[Glenn Beck]

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[Brian]

Vicki Paladino, welcome to the program. How are you, Vicki?

[Vicki Palladino]

Good morning, Glenn. How are you? I'm good, thank you.

[Brian]

Great. I just absolutely love so, so, Vicki, I, I read this story earlier this week and I said, this guy can't be in Congress.

[Glenn Beck]

How is he going to get, how, how are we going to give him

[Brian]

any kind of security clearance because of his past?

[Glenn Beck]

Fill us in on what you know

[Brian]

of him and what your thoughts are.

[Vicki Palladino]

All right. I'm going to read a little, if you don't mind. I want to run down only because I want to be extremely accurate. This guy is known to al Qaeda as an al Qaeda associate, has a long relationship as the Mastermind of the 1993 World Trade center bombings. Both before and after the bombing, he worked with the Blind Sheik. Okay, including defending him in court. He traveled to bosnia in the 1990s and worked as an al Qaeda front, worked with an al Qaeda front group after the 10 after the, the October 7th attacks. He traveled then to Gaza, where he worked in a hospital, which was above a tunnel where the leader of Hamas was found. Now, in a sane world, this would be totally disqualifying. Then he joined the United States army and he worked as a surgeon. How is this possible? All right. So now, Glenn, we've got a Democratic Party who has totally given up on, on this for so many different reasons. First of all, they're weak. Second of all, did they adapt the attitude that why fight it? We may as well join it? But this guy is in the 12th district in New Jersey. That's the Princeton district. That is where my Ivy tower, I call them Ivy tower liberals. That's where they live. This is a very, very wealthy Part of New Jersey, and he won it. And because it's so blue, chances are he's going to maintain a seat in the United States Congress. But there's other things I want to talk about. Let me give you some time. Go ahead.

[Brian]

No, no, I just want to know. So what do you do about that?

[Vicki Palladino]

Well, I think we could start first with the Republicans making this an extreme serious case while they run for these midterm elections. Republicans need to understand that this needs to become part of the everyday conversations. We are allowing terrorists into the Congress, into our congressional body. And are you aware, and I'm sure the listeners are not aware, I wasn't aware until yesterday that if the Democrats succeed in taking over the House in the midterm elections, they will appoint this guy. If the Republicans maintain their by one or two seats, if we hold this, we do not have to appoint this guy. He does not have to come in and sit in Congress. I don't think many people know that, but we have the ability not to seat him.

[Brian]

I, I have to tell you what, you know, I just got back from Europe and I saw how this is happening to Europe where, you know, you have these Islamists that are just taking over the cities, taking over, you know, the parliaments, and everybody's just turning a blind eye to it. I can't believe on the 20th year of the 25th anniversary of 911 New

[Glenn Beck]

Jersey, Todd Beamer's home district.

[Vicki Palladino]

Crazy.

[Glenn Beck]

We've just, I mean, I said earlier

[Brian]

today, Vicki,

[Glenn Beck]

you could make a case that Osama bin Laden has either won or is winning.

[Vicki Palladino]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. I couldn't agree with you more on that. When we look at our Constitution, it's not a suicide pact, our constitution, and yet we have people who don't want to challenge this in any way, shape or form that sits in government right now. How is this possible? I'm going to tell you something. The people are getting furious. Who are the people? The people are you and the people in me and the people like us. We're not going to tolerate much more of this, Glenn. This is. We're in a very dangerous place. And I think.

[Brian]

What does that mean to you, Vicki? What does that mean to you? You're not going to tolerate much more of this. What does that mean?

[Vicki Palladino]

Well, you know what? There's going to be problems we have here in New York City, Zoran, as our mayor. And we're watching what's happening. I mean, for example, Zo ran appointed to that one of the unindicted co conspirators of the 1993 World Trade center bombing sits as our chief counsel right now in City Hall. This is what's going on in New York City. He's canceled block parties and permits for block parties to celebrate the 250th anniversary of this great nation that we live on, live in. And I have to say, people are getting more than fed up. We're watching prayer mats getting laid out in front of the very first firehouse that responded on 9 11. And this is mockery. They are mocking us. And you made a very good point when you said, in a sense, are they winning? Well, right now, if you look around, you know, the Republicans are holding on tight, as tight as they can. And yet we can't. We cannot pass the SAFE Act. How is that possible, Glenn? How can we actually find asking for voter ID an invasion in somebody's privacy? Why didn't this pass months ago with flying colors? Why? People are weak. They are willing to accept this and use our Constitution and what our fourth. You know, our forefathers fought for and understood and had foresight to see what we could not see until we're in it right now. This is bizarre. This is. We're not existing in a sane world, Glenn. This is insanity.

[Brian]

I know, but thank God I'm not living where you are. I mean, I. You're. You're Europe and City Council of New York City. When I saw. Go ahead.

[Vicki Palladino]

No, I'm saying anybody who speaks out as I have. Look, I feel myself as a truth teller. People need to know an educated voter is the best voter that we've got, and they're able to make decisions. You know, those that are so far left and off a cliff, you can't bother with those folks. You got to hit the Democrats and the independents who are equally as fed up as we are here in New York anyway. We have to go after those folks. We have to educate.

[Glenn Beck]

You feel that. You feel that there are. I mean, because there's a great debate happens almost every day within my own audience.

[Brian]

They're like, glenn, there's no Democrat left. That is. They're all crazy.

[Glenn Beck]

And I'm like, no, I don't think that's true. I think they just have.

[Brian]

Okay, given up any. Go ahead.

[Vicki Palladino]

Giving up. Not showing up to polls to vote the way they should. You know, we have to. In my district, for example, It's a District 19, I am in charge of 175,000 people. This is an 8 to 1 Democrat seat, and I am the first Republican that any of Them have ever voted for Blue Dog. Blue Dog Democrats said, vicki, I'm voting for you. And I won out of my three times running, two times with a landslide. First time they didn't know me so well. Then I put myself in the belly of the beast and I educated the Democrats and it was very important that they understand that there's a sense of common sense still left. But these young people who have taken over our city, that's a different story because they're only passersby. They're not people who are going to put their roots here and stay here. We've got a vested interest in this city. This guy won. This young man has won. And much to our dismay, he puts on that big stupid grin and he's winning over people. Every single day. Every single day he's winning over people.

[Brian]

Well, I hope you're right. I can't understand how, you know, the Blue Dog Democrat, the person that was the average working guy cannot relate to your average college professor. And the Republicans have always been seen as well. They're in with big business.

[Glenn Beck]

Big business is a piece of cake

[Brian]

compared to the college professors. If you want to talk about people of that are in and out of touch. But the big business is now all on the left. All big special interest is on the left. And you have, you know, all the elites, all the eggheads on the left. And I don't understand why more people don't see, no, no, this is the working class, this is the average person against the elites. And they're pretty much all on one side right now.

[Vicki Palladino]

You know, we also have a media, this is media driven propaganda. Just like in communism. You know, they don't hear the other side, our side. They're focused on one thing. Orange man bad, Trump bad. Republican bad. They're going to do this to you, they're going to do that to you. And now when you back up that propaganda with the gazillions of different forms of media that people have to watch and you've got the likes of Hassan, what's his name? Yeah, yeah, yeah, piker. And you've got these other folks that have got multi billion, you know, million hundreds of millions of followers. Then you got your average ABC for us here. Abc, NBC, cbs. You know, the average Joe comes home from work and they're, they're flipping on their TV to watch the 6 o' clock news here in New York. And they're listening to cbs, NBC, our regular network news. They're not going right away to cable. They're, they're they might be in their kitchen preparing dinner. They're not watching Fox or they're not watching you, or they're not watching Newsmax or any of the News Nation, any of the center. They're listening to just regular news that they've trusted for years and years and years. And now you're hearing your trusted news people telling you all false information, totally false information. There might be a dabble or two of truth to it, but they, they don't elongate on it. They, they stay focused on 30 second news bites or 30 second news bites. And people are brainwashed every single day. You pick up the newspaper, you've got the, you've got the New York Times, you've got the Daily News, you've got here in New York, you've got your other newspapers. This is what people are reading. So you have voices like yours, voices like mine, other voices very similar to ours who are fighting left and right, pardon the pun, to try to get this message out. So we've got a big election coming up in New York for the governor. And I'm going to give Bruce Blakeman a big plug now. And I'm going to tell everybody that if we do not replace the New York State governor, this race in November and we don't cut the snake's head off, we are in serious trouble. She has taken a knee to Zoe Ran Hochul. Now, we've watched it for the past year and we're going to only watch it get worse and worse.

[Brian]

We'll have to have him on what's

[Vicki Palladino]

his name again, running for governor, Bruce Blakeman.

[Brian]

Okay, we'll look. Vicki, thank you. All right, good. Thank you. I appreciate it. Vicki Palatino, she is Palladino. She is the New York City Councilwoman on the New Jersey 12th district. The guy who is

[Glenn Beck]

not a good guy.

[Brian]

Not a good guy. And I don't know how we can have him in our Congress when he has had fingerprints all over the World Trade center, bombing in the. And Al Qaeda. Not good. Just not good. Hey, just a programming note on a couple of things. I am joining Moms for Liberty aboard the legendary USS Midway. And you are invited to come as we celebrate 250 years of America's freedom and honor the heroes that made it possible. I'm giving the keynote like it did up up in New York at the Statue of Liberty. This time we're doing a special tribute to D Day and there'll be fireworks over San Diego Bay. It's happening this weekend, this Saturday. Tickets are still available. You can get them at momsforliberty.org momsforliberty.org a sighting of Glenn Beck in California is as rare as, honestly, Bigfoot. It just, it just doesn't happen. I cannot remember the last time I did something publicly in California. And I always, I want to go to California because I love the California conservatives because they're just like, water, please, water. I remember I did an event in San Francisco once at the Masonic Theater. 3,000 seats, sold out in a heartbeat. And I go there and it was like the happiest group of people because everybody was like, we're safe in here.

[Glenn Beck]

We're safe. We can all talk.

[Brian]

We can actually be ourselves in here. And it was great. Maybe it'll be like that a little bit. 250 years of American freedom and honor. The USS Midway. It's in San Diego. It's Saturday. I think it starts at 5. But I will be there and I would love to meet you and say hello. Get your tickets now at moms for liberty.org it's at the USS Midway Museum. Moms for liberty.org Also coming up,

[Glenn Beck]

I

[Brian]

want to talk to you a little bit about what I sense coming our way. There is a change that is afoot. And I, I felt it when I was in Europe and I feel it now every day. I'm watching the news and I think the maps could be changing soon. At least the maps of alliances are going to change. And everything that we've grown up saying, yeah, this is normal, I think is going to change. And we're in this phase where

[Glenn Beck]

the

[Brian]

clock matters an awful lot.

[Glenn Beck]

I'll show you.

[Brian]

I mean, I'm going to lay this out on the chalkboard. The Vietnam Memorial, a clock, a DeLorean and ammo shells.

[Glenn Beck]

When you understand those things, believe it

[Brian]

or not, I'll bring it all together and you'll be like, oh, my gosh. And you will see the world in a completely different way. I'm doing that at noon today. That's noon Eastern. That currently is about 34 minutes away. And it'll only be at glenn beck.com torch glenn beck.com torch it's going to ask. It's going to last. I don't know because I'm kind of ad living around it, but I think about an hour. And so join us for that. You will understand the world in a completely different way. It is a deep dive on what is coming next. A great special that you don't want to miss today right after this show. Give me five minutes. But just get online Glenn beck.com torch Join us now as we celebrate America's 250 and relight the promise for America's next 250. Glennbeck.com torch Nah, nah, nah, nah.