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Glenn Beck
Okay, can I ask, why are people having meetings talking about lizard people with apparently our pastors and our government officials? I don't know if I even buy this. This is such a crazy story. But I'd like to cover it because I think it says something about Christians that I just don't think is true. I just don't think is true. Also, we talked with Tim Stewart, he's head of the Oil and Gas association, about what's really happening in Iran with their what, what can we expect when this is all over? And, you know, I had Chip Roy on today, and we were talking about this U visa that I never even heard of. It's another wave of fraud and abuse. So sick of all of this, and he's trying to stand up against it, but I kind of went into a rant on stop being abused. Stop it. Stop being abused. Americans are being abused. And we are being convinced that we're nobodies, that we're worth. And we so misunderstand almost everything in our constitution to our culture. And I take on the, you know, give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses. Wake up, America. I think you're gonna like that. It's on today's podcast. Here it is. First, mothers can bring out some of the most beautiful things, beautiful moments you've ever seen. We've been there. Family together, maybe dinner, just maybe a normal gathering. And somebody stands up and says, next year there's gonna be a new mom in this family. What? Everything stops because everybody knows they're watching a life change in real time. Somebody's becoming a mom. Here's the part we don't always see. Some women. Mother's Day isn't a celebration. It is a wait. It is fear and uncertainty. It's why preborn matters. Because when a woman sees her baby on the ultrasound, what she hears is a heartbeat. And something changes. And often she'll choose life just because of that ultrasound. And $28 provides one ultrasound. That's less than a dollar a day. And it could save a life or 140 doll. As five moms, preborn empowers moms to be mothers. And it's only a beginning, because that moment leads to real support, maternity care, baby clothes, diapers, counseling, and so much more. That's what happens when we get together, when we can just provide an ultrasound, we get involved. Dial £250. Say the keyword baby. £250 keyword baby. Or go to preborn.com beck. That's preborn.com.
Chip Roy
hello, America.
Glenn Beck
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Tim Stewart
You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
Glenn Beck
Tim Stern, President of the U.S. oil and Gas Association. This is the nation's oldest oil and gas trade association. About 250 Oil and gas companies and thousands of workers he represents. He's been working on energy policy for over 30 years. He's seen it all and he is with us now when I say you've seen it all. Have you seen this, Tim, on what's happening in Iran?
Tim Stewart
You know, you sometimes think you've seen it all until the next, until you read the next tweet or the next Wall Street Journal report. Right. But it is largely unprecedented. It's interesting because it's, you know, the war plans have been built into this for 40 years, the different scenarios. But I think all those scenarios finally started to play out in different areas. We're in a really interesting time right now. We really are.
Glenn Beck
So when you say charting to play out in different areas in a good way or a bad way,
Tim Stewart
this is really interesting because what we were talking about six weeks ago is very different than what we're talking about right now. And you let off with what's going to happen to the Iranians? You know, the U.S. navy's had this, had this straight scenario for 40 years. The Iranians had their, what do we do when we have to shut in our oil production scenario for 30 years as well. And when I try and explain this to people, I have to remind them, look, the Iranians producing oil, they're consuming it internally in their own country, but they're also exporting. And what we've seen over the last few days has been really interesting because the blockade has been very effective in crushing those exports and the ability to, for the shadow fleet to move out and to move back in. What you're seeing in Iran right now is they're trying to look at overland routes. And so they're doing everything from heavily subsidizing gasoline use in Iran itself, where it's 12 cents a gallon, to having fleets of dusty pickup trucks, fleets of dusty pickup trucks with Home Depot buckets full of crude to get it over land. And finally they're just burning it, they're just literally burning it off at the wellhead. So they are. I think that that scenario that the President talked about two weeks ago of putting the pressure on the, on the production facilities is really starting to play out right now. But we've got a long tail.
Glenn Beck
So can you tell, can you, can you tell me how that, what that means? I mean, you can't, I mean, if you're pumping that kind of, that amount of oil, you can't put it in the back of Toyota pickup trucks and Home Depot. How long before they have to say we're going to have to shut some of these things down?
Tim Stewart
From what we gather, they are almost there. They literally are. And again, to remind people, oil comes out and it is stored in a long sort of distribution channel. It's stored in tanks, it's stored in pipelines, it's stored in ships and trucks and it's moved, you know, it's in a constant moving process. And what has happened is the floating storage obviously has been shut off, which means that puts intense pressure on the tank storage or the pipeline storage. The carg island situation, which handles 90% of the exports, is under intense pressure. And so what you have to do is literally start turning the valve down on the wells. And that's what the Iranians actually did. The problem is that those are very old legacy fields. And as you mentioned earlier, those fields have water issues, they have pressure issues, they have migration issues with them. And the Iranians know some of how that scenario will play out. But obviously it's going to have a long term impact on their ability to ramp up to another 3 million barrels a day. We're kind of in that end game scenario right now, I think. And so this Project Freedom Project Pause, I think the President might have them in a situation where they are finally at the table for them fourth or fifth time or sixth time. But I think they really are starting to feel the heat right now.
Glenn Beck
So can you explain? The President said these things literally will explode if you don't, you know, if you just Keep them in. You keep it open or you, you just shut it off or whatever. He said they'll explode. What is he talking about?
Tim Stewart
Well, I don't know if he's fully.
Chip Roy
Is.
Tim Stewart
It's. They're not going to explode. But there's pressure issues both at the wellhead and in the storage capacity. And so oil's got to go somewhere when it comes out. It's got to go somewhere. And again, the storage is at. The Iranian storage is at maximum while they're trying to get their shadow fleets back in and the blockade shut those tankers that were already on the water from coming back in to reload. And then you've got those that are stuck behind the blockade. So I think when the president says they're going to explode, it's not a literal explosion. It's just. It is sort of implosion would probably be a better term of art, in my opinion.
Glenn Beck
Okay, okay. So they're at 12 cents a gallon. Wow. Wouldn't that be nice? What do we have to do? You know, the thing that people don't understand is, you know, we're bringing up light sweet crude and we can't refine light sweet crude here because we're not building new refineries. And so we still have to buy their oil, but we're kind of kind of swapping it. In a way, we're selling our oil to someplace else, but it's still affecting people. Is there anything that can happen that we can do to not be looking at 4, 5, 7, $10 a gallon gasoline if things don't turn around here?
Tim Stewart
Yeah, this is a situation where the US Is insulated, but not isolated from the global markets. And the fact is that we are now the world's largest producer. But you're exactly right. Crude is a global commodity and it's swapped back and forth. Our refinery industry was based around imported crude, heavy, heavy, sour crude from Venezuela or Saudi Arabia. And I have to explain to people, look, my industry is segmented. You have the oil and gas production side where we have sort of been generationally groundbreaking in our ability to produce new crude light sweet. Like you say, the refining industry is way behind where we are at. And that's primarily because there has been a lack of investment driven by Wall street and others who have been told for 20 years that fossil fuel is not the future anymore. And so being able to secure a billion dollar loan to upgrade refinery has been very difficult. They're lagging far behind us. And so what you have is this scenario where crude is being swapped, like you say. But I think a situation like this will have a generational change in how crude is produced, how it gets to market and what it is turned into. And we've seen that here in the United States with the Venezuelan scenario where we're now taking and a half a million barrels a day and that crude is being processed on the Gulf refineries, but it's being turned into refined product that has made its way to both the US market, Central and South America and now European markets. That's changing. And the refining industry itself is starting to realize that they won't, they have a global market, whereas it was more North American. But more equally important, I think Wall street is realizing that fossil energy is going to be a long term investment. That's why you saw the Indians invest in a massive new refinery for light sweet crude in Texas and Brownsville about a month and a half ago. It's really interesting. There's a generational change that's underway. When you say, have I seen it all? I haven't seen this. I didn't anticipate OPEC starting to crack last week. I didn't anticipate UAE with a million and a half barrel extra capacity saying we're going to walk away from those OPEC quotas. It's going to be really interesting. The problem is the physics are always the same, which is you have one barrel of oil which turns into 42 gallons of something, be that gasoline or diesel or jet fuel. And right now the math is really difficult for, and the physics is difficult for what that is turned into and where it goes again. The final challenge is we're looking at a 450 million barrel global shortfall right now. So there's a long tail as to how and when that shortfall is made up.
Glenn Beck
Tim, let me ask you a really difficult question. People's perception is that we fight wars for oil. Some of that probably is true, some of it is not. We're not. We are, I believe, fighting this war for energy. And who leads the world? And I think he is, if you look at the choke points he's been after, we, he is setting us up to be the OPEC of the world, quite honestly, and have the world come to us for oil and we control all of that, which is really America first. With that being said, people see that the gas prices go up and they're paying more and more and more and you know, the, the, the oil companies from America are going to benefit from this. They're just going to benefit from this. Is it? Has anyone ever said, you know, in these situations, hey, is there a way to give the American people a break here and maybe turn our profits down just a little bit and give, and give a break to the American people and just selfishly so they don't hate our guts and think that we're just a bunch of rich people that are just getting richer on their suffering? Have you ever heard talk like that?
Tim Stewart
Yeah, I get asked that question in that form 100 times a day, to be honest with you. And it's difficult because again, with the industry being bifurcated like it is, you know, the majority of my members of the U.S. oil and gas association are small independent producers. We're like farmers. It's like you, when you send the cows, you know, when you send the cows to auction, you don't set the auction price, the auction does the industry itself. And this is really important, I try and explain this to people, that we prefer stable prices more than anything. And those prices need to be in that $67 to $85 a barrel range. And the reason why is because that's predictable for us. It allows us to do long term planning, to capitalize on. When you have to capitalize a multibillion dollar project, you need that stability. And these wild swings are horrible for us and we don't want that. And so when the President says, well, I want oil at $50 a barrel, well, that puts intense pressure on our sort of golden goose, which is the shale industry, because we actually need $65 a barrel. But I think when we're in that
Glenn Beck
range or you can't pull it out, you lose money pulling it out. Reagan, we went through this in the 80s with Reagan. But anyway, go ahead.
Tim Stewart
Exactly, exactly. And anything above 90 is horrible too because nobody's going to invest in these wild. Today's a good example. We're up $10, we're down $10. It's hard for us to plan for that. And above 90, our prices for production go up as well. So the Goldilocks zone is there 70 to 90, which that translates into that 295, $315 a gallon for gas. And that's where people seem to be able to function. Well, to your point though, sorry, but to your point is what can be done to immediate relief. Keep in mind that the price of crude is one portion of what you're paying at the pump. The federal and the state and local taxes are the other. And California adds another $65 on top of it. And the lowest is Alaska, which is like $0.29. The most immediate thing that could probably be done is have the states themselves look at what they're charging and adjust those fees, adjust those taxes or waive them or do a holiday or something like that. And that brings some immediate relief. But again, the problem is, is that relief only lasts as long as we don't get a $20 spike in crude the next day because of a tweet or because, because of a drone strike. Yeah, we're in a really tough spot right now. Look, I understand. I filled up yesterday. It sucks. You know, and I've noticed and, and nobody wants to be pushing low and moderate income families into energy poverty. We, my industry hates that. We want them to be able to afford food and gas, you know,
Glenn Beck
so
Tim Stewart
that's where we're at.
Glenn Beck
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Chip Roy
Glenn? Great to be with you. Yeah, thanks for that correction. That was important.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know. How's the campaign going? When, when, when do you vote?
Chip Roy
Early voting is on May 18th. Election Day is May 26th, so just not quite three weeks from now. Campaign's going great, crisscrossing the state of Texas. I was in Houston on Monday, San Antonio last night, Fredericksburg today in Georgetown and then Longview and then Dallas, Fort Worth, Denton, Weatherford, going to Midland, Odessa Saturday, all the way out to Alpine to see some folks out there. We're going to cover the state and put a lot of miles on the truck. But a lot of good folks out there. And they short version is they wanted somebody who's practiced law, has been a prosecutor, who's been there, he's got a proven track record and we're selling that message to the people of Texas.
Glenn Beck
And I will tell you, proven yourself in Washington, D.C. to be a man of principle and take a stand. Let's talk about the kill switch here for a second. People are just starting to discover something that happened during the Biden administration. Can you explain this?
Chip Roy
Yeah, this is something I've been fighting for a long time. My good friend and colleague Scott Perry carries the legislation to repeal it. My friend Thomas Massie has been an outspoken advocate for it. All of us have carried amendments in various forms over the last several years. So about five years ago, four years ago, maybe, can't remember the year. I'd have to go check. You know, they passed as part of the larger. Yeah, they passed as part of the larger legislation. I think it was a transportation bill, a provision in there that required, required it was a specific mandate or rulemaking to put in the, in automobiles technology to prevent people from driving who might be impaired. Now this was passed, you know, in the name of trying to prevent, you know, people from driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs. But the issue is that means you're putting a expensive technology upwards of several thousand dollars increase in the cost of automobiles into cars that is surveilling you by definition. Now they will say, oh, don't worry about it. It's just checking eye movement. It's not collecting data. It's not going to be used against you. Well, yes it is. I mean, first of all, you're going to then prevent, let's say you're a woman being chased by somebody and you run into your car and you're nervous and frenetic and scared and you want to start your car and you can't start your car like it's mind blowing that we would allow that to occur rather than just saying, look, if you're caught, caught drinking and driving, you lose your license for 10 years and pay a $10,000 fine. Like, like there are ways to do things to make sure that you follow the law. We've been winning that battle on drunk driving, but now we're going to put this kind of technology, which by the way, will be expansive in terms of its surveillance capability. You are effectively putting cameras in your car to track your movements, track what you're doing and no doubt record what you're doing and then ultimately be used against you in something, to me, that is nefarious with respect to the Fourth Amendment. I mean, this is, you know, it's dystopia. I mean, you really can't believe that we're allowing the very things that were predicted in 1984 in other ways. And we're now going, oh, yeah, let's just do this. Let's just go ahead. Let's give all the power to the government. And look, this is why I've been arguing to say we need more reforms in fisa. We got some good reforms two years ago, but we need to go further for more warrant protections. And look, I was sitting in the Oval Office having this conversation with the President, and I don't talk about private conversations, but he is rightly trying to balance his commander in chief, the need for 702 to go get information on bad actors abroad with the need to protect our privacy here. And he wants to get that balance. I have an obligation to look beyond the current president and to say the Constitution needs to make sure that we, as Congress as a voice, are standing up in defense of private citizens from having government that is surveilling them. FISA has warrantless surveillance. Now they want to create a central bank, digital currency, which we pass legislation to try to ban. And now you've got the kill switch that's about to be implemented next year. That is surveillance technology in your car. All of this is adding up to constant surveillance of the American people in violation of not just the spirit, but I believe the letter of the Fourth Amendment. And this should be concerning to everybody and we should be trying to stop it.
Glenn Beck
I have to tell you, I would throw in, you know, the Third Amendment is always overlooked. You can't quarter soldiers in somebody's home and everybody's like, well, we got that one done. I think this is also a violation of the Third Amendment because the government, it's not a physical person, but they have their eyes on your info. That's why they didn't want you to quarter People in, because they were going through your stuff. They were watching you all the time. That's what that was trying to stop. This is watching you all the time. This is looking through your information. This is such a violation of the 4th, and I think the 3rd amendment. It's crazy what we're doing. Crazy.
Chip Roy
Yeah. Glenn, this is something that I hope all your listeners listen to and take to heart that they need to be concerned about this and you want to probably move on to other topics, but I'll just, I'll leave with this. We tried to amend the FISA with the central bank digital currency. We did so successfully with some modest reforms to fisa. Sent it to the Senate. The Senate wouldn't take it up. So we ended up passing a 45 day extension. Some of us. I offered an amendment to kill the kill switch. Well, that was ruled non germane. Well, it's technically non germane in a sort of, you know, legislative drafting sense, but it's totally germane to the tyrannical surveillance of the American people. So I'm gonna keep fighting to find vehicles to try to move those things. So is Scott Perry, so is Thomas Massie, so are others who believe in liberty. But the American people need to be advised of this and they need to harangue their members of Congress into making sure they prior. Because 57 members of Congress voted against our bill or our amendment. Sorry. Last year. To kill the kill Switch on Appropriations. 57. 57 Republicans.
Glenn Beck
You wouldn't happen to have a list of those names that I could get and tweet those names out?
Chip Roy
Happy to send them to you.
Glenn Beck
Okay, good. Please do. I don't understand it. And I don't understand FISA. You know, FISA was written in the 70s to be the fix, to be able to say, okay, the government is spying, so we have to have some balance. So we're going to put a FISA court in there. This was to stop the government from abusing power. And now it is the source of the abuse of power. There's just no way to limit you open these doors. There's no way to limit these people. They'll just keep taking.
Chip Roy
Well, Glenn, I like to give credit where it's due. And my colleague Michael Cloud, a good man and one of the best members of Congress. He's kind of my opposite in terms of his demeanor. He's Mr. Level Headed and just out there and he doesn't go to the floor as much. I'm out there throwing bombs on the House floor. But we are brothers in our belief in conservatism and limited government. He's a big champion of banning the central bank digital currency. Michael came into one of our Republican meetings a few weeks back and he said to everybody, he said, guys, the intelligence community never walks in and says, hey, we have all of this power, and we are able to use this power to collect lots of information. And you know what? Today we decided we're gonna give back half our power. Here you go. That literally never happens. So we as members of Congress have a duty to require it. When we're putting together funding that we're taking from taxpayers and unfortunately, borrowing to fund all of this nonsen. And there's always a reason when your guy is the guy as the commander in chief in the executive branch, then everybody goes, oh, I guess I can't do it. Let me give you an example. Jamie Raskin, right? Very liberal Democrat from Maryland. Jamie puts himself out as a big defender of the Constitution. Jamie was on the floor of the House when we had an amendment vote on a warrant protection on FISA two years ago when Joe Biden was in the office. Jamie ultimately didn't vote with us to require a warrant protection amendment because it was Joe Biden in the White House. And I'm not like, I disagree with Jamie, and I'm happy to punch him on a lot of different issues, whatever.
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Chip Roy
But I'm not here to disparage him on that. I'm trying to make the case there were Republicans right now who are like, well, I guess I've gotta be more careful now because our guys in the White House. I agree. I wanna give the president power to do the right thing, but I don't agree that we should not be bl. Like, here we are. I'm sorry that we.
Glenn Beck
Principles are universal. Principles are universal no matter who is in power.
Chip Roy
Correct.
Glenn Beck
You know, I'm convinced our biggest problems in this country are not. Are not the laws that we have or anything else. It's the abuse of everything. You know, the FISA court is not the problem. It's the abuse of the FISA court. The. The U visa. This is a visa that you get if you say, I was a victim of a certain kind of crime. I'll let him define this here for a second. Certain kind of crime. And. And so we say, oh, come on in. You're a huddled mass. Let me. Let me help you. Yearn to breathe free. And it is. Maybe at the beginning, maybe it was a good idea, I don't know. But now, massive growth. Guess when it started to grow out of control. 2009 now 400,000 pending applications. We can't keep up with it. And he is, Chip Roy is trying to stop it. He's just introduced the End U Visa Abuse act to Congress. What are the, what are the conditions that will allow you to get this?
Chip Roy
Well, this was one that has flown under the radar for a lot of people. And, you know, my staff has been working on this for about six months. Just, you know, we knew it existed, but, you know, I didn't really dive into it. But we had a case in Austin where one of our citizens here, not my constituent, but very close, real nice guy, and he was a victim of being targeted by an illegal alien for a false accusation of crime. And that was done so that that individual, the illegal alien, could claim status and get a U visa to stay in the United States as a crime victim. And this is the problem. It's a perverse incentive. And there are other pieces, other statutes or other laws that give people the ability to stay here. If, for example, they're a witness to crime, say you're an illegal alien and you know about a gang member cartel, fentanyl, and you're coming in as a witness to say, hey, these bad guys are doing xyz. We've got provisions in the law for them to be able to stay an extended period or get a visa for a period of time. But. So there's no real need for this, by the way. But it was created do gooder kind of huddled masses approach that you just described. And so now we've got thousands of cases where people are trying to apply to these U visas. And we've had numerous examples of fraud that are uncovered by the inspector general of the Department of Homeland Security, who, by the way, Inspector General Cuffari has been a rock star, a champion all through the Biden years. He was getting targeted, harassed. They tried to fire him because he was exposing all of the horrors under Alejandro Mayorkas in the Biden administration. He's still doing a job over there identifying some of these programs that are ripe for abuse because Congress is always passing laws and creating new programs that can ultimately be abused.
Glenn Beck
Chip, I'm going to start asking people who are running for any office two questions. I want to present these to you as the first person, if you win as Attorney General, will you go after all corruption, graft and fraud, even no matter what party is responsible for it, and go after it with everything in you to root it out and to stop it and to put these people in jail?
Chip Roy
Yes, unequivocally And I'll tell you how. Unless you want to go to your second question first.
Glenn Beck
No, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
Chip Roy
Well, this is partly why there's a significant number of people in the Austin swamp who are opposing me, and it's because they know that I'm going to bring a fresh view to the Austin swamp. And it is every bit as swampy as the Washington swamp. Don't kid yourself. One party rule. They might be on our side of the ideological spectrum, but it has a way of corrupting. And so they know I'm going to come in and pursue truth wherever it may lead. I will go after NGOs and nonprofits. I will go after every government dollar. I've already talked to Don Huffines, who's going to be our comptroller candidate. I want to open up all the books. I want to know where the money came from. I want to know where the money's going, because if you follow the money, you're going to find the corruption. And we need to do that in Austin and D.C. doge is a good sounding concept, and I support it. I want to doge Austin, too. But you need the power of the Office of the Attorney General, who has power on public corruption, to pursue all of this, to expose it, because we have got to stop empowering people to be able to use taxpayer money in their offices, to be able to carry out policies, programs, and all sorts of grift, and do it in a way that is undermining the strength of the state of Texas, not just across the country. It's real right here in Texas. And I will absolutely go after it as Attorney General.
Glenn Beck
So the second question is, will you use your office, your powers, to do everything you can to stop Sharia law from becoming reality in the state of Texas and the United States of America?
Chip Roy
Yeah, Glenn. And this is probably the single most important issue we face, and you and I have talked about it on your show. We are big believers and staunch defenders and will die on the Hill to defend our rights, given to us, God, by God, that were codified in the Bill of Rights, but they're not given to us by the Bill of Rights. Right. I think it's really important. People need to remember that.
Glenn Beck
Right.
Chip Roy
They are our rights. And our. Our Constitution was the first document to recognize that and put it down in print form in the Bill of Rights. But absolutely, I'm gonna stop the advance of the Islamification of the state of Texas, the Islamification of the United States. This is a political Ideology masquerading behind the First Amendment in order to carry out a jihad against the West. And again, I'm not judging any one individual. I am judging a movement that wants to destroy Western civilization. As Charlie Kirk said, Islam is not compatible with Western civilization and sharia has no place here. As attorney General, I will root it out.
Glenn Beck
Chiproy.com chiproy.com is his campaign website. Chip, as always, good to talk to you. Thank you very much, Glenn. Keep fighting. You bet. Bye. Bye.
Chip Roy
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Glenn Beck
Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Boy, you miss a lot if you're not an insider. Make sure you become an insider. Join the Torch today. Just go to glenn beck.com/torch. We just had a fascinating conversation here during the commercial break about, you know, progressives and you know, Ricky said, do these politicians ever think ahead? All of the, you know, the FISA court, it started as protection and now look what it's doing. It's destructive. This, you know, the kill switch, you know, it starts for drunk driving, but look what it's going to turn into. Yeah, I think the progressives absolutely do look at the future. They look at all these things and go, how can we get this in? How can we get this past the Constitution? What reasonable thing can we get it in through the front door or even in through a side window that will develop over time. Progressivism that can we can use to squash freedom them and make no mistakes. You know, people who call themselves progressive, read up on what progressivism is. You're progressing to what? Progressing to what? Well, at least now they're saying it. Communism or socialism, that's what they're progressing to. And by the way, socialism is check marks. Socialism is, is the step in between capitalism and communism. It's not a destination, as I think Mark said. It's a train. It's a train. It's the train that takes you between the two. So that's what they're for, okay? That's what they've always been for. And don't believe the lies. It's really time everybody puts their big boy pants on and understands. And you stop, stop. Stop letting your empathy and your goodness be used against you. I just, I wrote some stuff. We're going to give it out to Torch members here in a few weeks and then it'll come to you. But I'm going to start just doing prototype kind of stuff and see if it's useful. And we're just testing it on the guinea pigs that are the torch bearers because you Know the torch is about education. That's what it's supposed to be about. It's not about the show and, and the information, although that is important. It is about education. Educate yourself on what's happening in the world today. Know what's true, what's not true. We'll show you how to figure out what's true. We will. We will give you all of the background information and all the original documents. We will go deeper on certain subjects, but also to teach true, eternal principles that founded the country. We have to know the Bill of Rights. We have to know the Bill of Rights. And we keep having these things turned around on us. Freedom of speech. Sorry, it's in my mind because I was up till at least one last night writing this, this. And it's on the. The First Amendment. The first lesson plan is going to be on how you teach your kids about the Bill of Rights and the First Amendment. There are five things. One is religion. And people will say, you can't go against Sharia law. That's religion. No, it's not. That is. That is a replacement of our laws. That is going into what our government is supposed to have charge of. Of. You want to have something in your faith, that's fine. You can do whatever you want in your faith. You can pray any way you want. You do whatever you want. But not when you start encroaching on the things that keep people free. You're now entering what our government is supposed to do. And our government is supposed to make sure that they protect human rights. State first. And anything that stands against human rights and starts to encroach on the role of the government is antithetical. And that is not a religious thing. You don't have a right to do that. The Catholics wouldn't have a right. The Mormon wouldn't have a right to do it. Nobody has a right to do it. Okay. You know, Utah couldn't join the union until the Mormons said, okay, no more polygamy. Me? Why? Because that was the law in the United States of America. You want to be in the United States of America, then you have to follow the law, Period. That's. That's exactly what needs to be said about, About Sharia law. Stop letting your. Your goodness that you has been used against you and your misunderstanding of our rights. Stop having that used against you. They're playing us. We were just talking about that U visa. What is that? We see somebody who has maybe been raped. They're, you know, victim of a crime, and they say, I Got to get out of here because crime is out of control. Blah, blah, blah. Okay, that's a good thing. But there's. There's nothing backing any of that up. It's your claim. Well, we just know who would claim that. Well, a lot of people would claim that to come here. 400,000 people are applying for a U visa because it's their way to get in. And what a surprise. That number just ballooned in 2009. Cloud and Piven. Stop it. You know, I gave this speech at Ellis island, and by the way, Ricky told me she was. She was getting her hair done, and she's talking to this guy who's doing her hair on Saturday for the event. And he said, where's your event? And she said, ellis Island. And he said, he's from New York. He grew up in New York. He said, what's Ellis Island? Okay, well, I don't know. Please do not ever talk about anything but hair, because I don't even know how you got here. Here. If you've lived in New York your whole life and you don't know what Ellis island is. Anyway, so we were doing this thing at Ellis island, and I said, we have to understand how we have always traditionally viewed immigration. It's not a suicide pact. We are not a hospital. You're not coming here because. Oh, I'm so broken. I just need a place where I can crash on your couch. No. Get off of my couch. Now. Maybe there are some that we Go. You know what? Let them crash on the couch. Let them get their breath because they've been so abused, or they've just come out of Cuba. Yes, let. Let them come in. Let them come in. But then we expect you to do something with your life. No, no, no, no. Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free. The. Bring the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Who. Who in their right mind runs a country and says, you know what we really need to make our country great? The wretched refuse. You know, all those people that are the huddled masses that are just so tired and broken and they're poor and they got nothing going for them.
Jason
Them.
Glenn Beck
Let's bring those people in. How stupid are you to think that's what that means? You. You really have to be an imbecile to believe that's what it means. But that's the way it's interpreted. Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses. Huh? Why would we say that? Why? It shows you have a complete, complete misunderstanding or lack of. Of Even desire to try to understand that. Go back to the original poem. This is what the original poem says. Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame. Who is that? What is that? That's the colossus of Rhodes that used to hold a torch. His leg was on one port and his other leg was on the other port. And the ships would come underneath. I don't know what they saw when they got underneath his skirt, but they would go in between his legs. And he was meant to be a giant of warning. Don't screw with us. Okay, so the poem starts out, not like the brazen giant of Greek fame with conquering limbs astride from land to land, here at our sea wash gate, sunset gates shall stand a mighty woman with a torch whose flame is the imprisoned lightning. What is that? What is imprisoned lightning? That is a salute to Edison and electricity. That's the light bulb light. It's invention. Our light is invention. It is. It's entrepreneurs coming up with a better idea. Whose flame is a better idea. And her name is Mother of Exiles. From her beacon hand glows worldwide. Welcome. We welcome everyone. Her mild eyes command the air bridged harbor that twin cities frame. Now this is an important thing, she says. Keep ancient lands and your storied pomp, cries she with silent lips. Wait a minute. Keep ancient lands in your storied pomp. What is storied pomp? Keep all of your titles and your degrees and your kings and your classes and everything else. Keep them. We don't want your land. We don't want your pomp. We don't want any of that crap. Keep it. We don't want it here. Then she says, give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free. Who is she talking to here? Give me your tired, your poor. Who is she talking to? She just said, keep your ancient lands and your storied pomp. She's talking to the countries all around the world that have all of that crap, that have all the kings and the queens and the. And the guilds that you have to join. And if you don't, you're born with a wrong name. You can't. Can't go in and do that for a living. You'll never be this because, well, you don't have the background. Your family wasn't that. Your family wasn't an earl or a duke or whatever the hell she's saying. Keep all of that. And then she challenges them. Give me the people you're keeping down. Give me the people you look down on. Give me the People that you say, oh, they're tired, they're poor, they're awful, they're stinky. I don't like them. Them, they're the huddled masses. They're. There are wretched refuse. They're on our teeming shores. Ick. I don't want them. Good. Send those people to us. Because you will not believe when you stop calling people that. When you start giving them the opportunity and say, you don't have to worry about your past. You don't have to worry about your family name. You don't. You are responsible for you. You have rights given to you by God that no one can stand in the way of. I. I'm not going to guarantee your success, and I'm not going to coddle you and hold you in my arms and sing you lullabies every night. You want a chance? Here's your chance. We don't require any of that stuff. Come here. I lift my lamp beside the golden door. This is the attitude we have to start having. You have to remember context. You have to remember, what is the point of all of this? Stop being abused. We are like battered. We are like battered family members. We have been abused for so long by our own politicians, by our NGOs, by our own churches. In some ways, they have done everything they can to make you forget who you are. You're an American. This is the United States of America. We are different than every other country on planet Earth. And with God's will, we. We will always be different from those countries. That's something. We should stand up and square our shoulders and say, damn right we're different. And you don't get any of this for free. This takes work. This takes work from each of us, the individuals. I'm not bringing somebody in here who doesn't even understand us or want to understand us. You want to be Puerto Rican, Live in Puerto Rico. You want to be American, and you have an idea that you can't do in Puerto Rico? Come on in. Help us. Remind me who we are. But I don't need another damn person who is coming in here because we're going to take care of them. No, I'm not taking care of you. That's not what this is about. Stand up, square your shoulders. Remember who you are.
Tim Stewart
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Glenn Beck
All right, Jason just broke some news to the insiders, and I want to go over. Jason, come in. I'm going to give you something that Donald Trump has just tweeted. Assuming Iran agrees to give what has been agreed to, which is perhaps a big assumption. The already legendary epic fury will be at an end, and the highly effective blockade will allow the Hormuz strike state to be open to all, including Iran. If they don't agree, the bombing starts. And it will be, sadly, at a much higher level and intensity than it was before. Thank you for your attention to this matter. President Donald J. Trump, by the way. Before I get to that, do you know why? Thank you for your attention to this matter. Do you know why he says that at the end of all of his tweets?
Tim Stewart
Educate me.
Glenn Beck
Do you know, Jason, I found this out. This is crazy. Do you know why?
Jason
No.
Glenn Beck
Do you remember when he was debanked?
Jason
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
Okay. And he got a letter from the bank saying, sorry, the last line was, thank you for your attention to this matter. He has a long memory. He has a very long memory. Isn't that interesting? Anyway, Jason, I will believe this when I see it. We don't know who we're even dealing with. And even the president is like, perhaps this a big assumption, but this is like the third deal that Iran has presented to the United States in the last couple of days. They keep presenting these things. I have a guest coming up in about 30 minutes that's going to tell us about oil and what, what's the deal? I keep hearing that they're going to run out of space. They're going to run out of space. Well, when are they going to run out of space and shut down the oil fields? Are we there yet? Because if that, that could be. That's the key to the pressure, I think, of getting a deal done. So we'll find that out in just a few minutes. But what do you think of what he just tweeted?
Jason
Well, I don't. We saw comments from Marco Rubio yesterday just talking about when they do, when they're negotiating with the Iranians, it's kind of hard. Like sometimes it takes over six days to get a response back because it's going through multiple different layers of the security state, eventually getting down to the ayatollah, who knows the manipulations from the irgc, I, who knows who they're. I don't even know if we know who we're negotiating with. What party is the irgc? Is it the political establishment? Let's just say I'm highly skeptical. Every time we get some of these deals or these proposals coming from the Iranians and there are rumors going around now on more of a 14 or ish point plan that they're proposing I.
Glenn Beck
Have we seen it yet?
Jason
I don't. We haven't. I've just seen reporting on what, what the rumors are on some of it. Like, you know, a moratorium on uranium enrichment, US lifting sanctions and releasing frozen funds. I don't know how far even those two will go.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, yeah, I mean, we'll, we'll do all those things if they are, you know, if they're actually going to not pursue, you know, a nuclear policy and they're going to, you know, get away from Hezbollah and Hamas and all of that. But those are huge ifs. I mean, those are huge. You trust the irgc? Because I don't.
Jason
Right. No. And I think that this has brought out all of their internal divisions and I don't even know if the leadership within Iran even knows who's in charge right now. So I'm very skeptical on all of this. We'll see where it goes. As, as the President said, it's a big assumption, assuming this will go through. But meanwhile, the blockade is still in effect. I still think the best course of action is to allow things to take its course through the blockade, allow economic pain, you know, to continue there and, and see what they're forced into later. That's, that's the best course of action.
Glenn Beck
Well, we'll find, we'll find out about the oil thing here coming up in just a few minutes. Let me switch subjects. Jason, I don't know if you saw, I don't know if you saw this, but I don't even know if this is true. But apparently there were some people from the government with inside knowledge that have asked a group of pastors to meet somewhere in the country, Tennessee, and they met to get briefed on, I don't know, lizard people. I don't know exactly what. Do you have this story, have you looked into this?
Jason
Yeah, a little bit. So this started going around yesterday and at first I dismissed it, it, I eventually started seeing it getting pushed all over the place, but apparently there was a, quote, large group of pastors. I looked a few of them up. Some of them are well known evangelists that supposedly met at an Airbnb in the mountains of Tennessee.
Glenn Beck
Where. Okay, hang on, just a second, hang on, hang on, hang on. Send me a list of the pastors because I probably know some of them and I will call them.
Jason
Okay.
Glenn Beck
And find out. Okay, but go ahead. They met at an Airbnb.
Jason
Right. One of these pastors name is Perry Stone. So he, he put a video out on X yesterday or on YouTube. And I'll just read you a quote that kind of summarizes it. He said, quote, I'm not going into great detail, but there are a large number of pastors that have been invited to go to a certain state to hear some men in the U.S. government and others share with them a concern that they had. The concern revolved around, quote, some of it has to do with crafts that have been discovered that are not allegedly part of our planet and materials that are made are not part of our planet. Very strange, reptilian looking creatures and other things that almost sound like something of a sci fi movie or H.G. wells book. And it sounds like they're gathering the pastors together to get a unified message so that when disclosures happen that there's not. I don't know what there's not. I know this has been discussed in UFO circles before that there will be civil unrest amongst religious people and how to control that.
Glenn Beck
Wait, wait, wait. Among religious people? Don't you think if we found out that there are lizard people here, we would all be a little upset? Is it, why is it just the religious people that are going to be like, I can't take, I, you know, I'm not going to stand for the lizard people in the shopping center. I mean, what, what?
Jason
Well, this is when he gets the like, specific claims. And I've, I've actually talked about a documentary. The documentary is called Mirage Men. And I mention, I bring that up because at the very end of the documentary they talk about one of the big specific claims that religious people might have a problem with, which understandably so. But one of the claims or part of the disclosures has always been rumored that the human race has been manufactured by extraterrestrials. That's one of the multitude of. And that's what they thought.
Glenn Beck
So wait, wait, wait, wait. The people who believe, the people who claim to believe in Jesus Christ are going to go, well, now, wait a minute. The lizard people say they came up with all of that and we're going to believe.
Jason
That sounds like a psyop invented by atheists. What is going on in Tennessee?
Glenn Beck
I mean, as a Christian, the first thing that I would say is if a lizard person was like, you know what, we came here long ago and we just made up this Jesus thing, first thing that would come behind me or come to mind would be get behind me, Satan. I mean, I mean, it does not sound like something I go now, well, wait a minute. That makes me question Jesus. It makes me question the lizard people.
Jason
Well, Ricky, it's Interesting. Ricky mentioned psyop, and there definitely seems like they're pushing to. I don't know. There's been a lot of talk of disclosure lately, and it definitely kind of. I'm getting the psyop vive on a lot of this, but David Grush was trending yesterday also on aliens. He was one of the big whistleblowers, and he was saying that disclosure is going to ramp up between the next 60 to 90 days. We've heard the White House talk about how they're going to release a lot of files. Cash Patel was just talking about the release of a lot of files. He said that, I think yesterday, the past couple days, something is coming from the White House. Whether it's a big nothing burger or not, I don't know, but it's going
Glenn Beck
to be a big nothing burger burger. There's no way the president. Look, if. Look, can we just be logical here for a second? First of all, if the President knew that there were lizard people among us, okay, lizard people among us, do you think he'd be like, out there going, and by the way, oil prices are going to come down? You know, I'm, I'm working on the next election. We got to get out. Out. He would be focused on the. Is there a bigger story in all of mankind than we find out that aliens are among us? I don't think there's a bigger story. The, the entire, the whole of government would be gearing towards that.
Jason
Not.
Glenn Beck
By the way, we got to bring our interest rates down, you know, and we're going to work on some housing programs. And by the way, lizard people are here, here. And looks like the war in Ura. What did you just say? Yeah, lizard people are here. But let me tell you about the negotiations that are going on. That's not going to happen.
Chip Roy
It's not going to happen there.
Glenn Beck
It's not going to happen.
Jason
There is a fortuitous timing to a lot of the alien talk. It always seems like when there's other large news out there or something that the government doesn't really want to talk about or something like that, we always seem to get a disclosure.
Glenn Beck
Or is it the government? You know, these nameless leaks that are coming with people connected to the government. I'd like to know who the people connected to the government are. Who, who are they? You know, who is doing this? This is. Again, I mean, honestly, I would love to hear from Christians. I'd love to hear from you, because maybe a lot of people say, I'm not a Christian. Even though I've been saved and redeemed by Jesus Christ. Christ by accepting his atonement. Somehow or not a Christian, but I would love to hear from Christians who somehow or another this is going to shake your faith. I just don't believe that. Oh, I believe in God until lizard people show up. And then I'm going to listen to the lizard people and they're like, yeah, let me just, let me just tell you that I. We all came here a long time ago and made up Jesus. Oh, okay. That's shaking my faith. I'm sorry. Sorry. Don't think so. They do live among us. And Gavin Newsom and Nancy Pelosi.
Jason
Do you remember. Do you remember Steve Dace's prediction on your TV show?
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Jason
Here's the exact quote. We're going to see at least one elected official claim to have directly communicated
Glenn Beck
with non human intelligence.
Jason
And the amount of activity, psyop, whatever you want to call it on the ufo, uap, nha, NHI front is ramping up.
Glenn Beck
Now I'm suspicious about why Steve Taste
Jason
knew that maybe was he in this
Glenn Beck
Tennessee meeting, but is he a lizard person? He claims to be a Christian. Maybe he's a lizard person. Oh my gosh. I mean, he, he stated that with such authority though, to. And I'm not saying that he had inside information, but he really. I mean, because that was shocking coming from him. And we all laughed.
Jason
We're like, okay, Steve.
Glenn Beck
And well, I guess maybe he was right. We're getting closer.
Jason
Who do you think the politician would be that would announce that they'd had non human intelligence?
Glenn Beck
Trump.
Tim Stewart
Okay.
Glenn Beck
I mean, if it's, if it's, if it is. Look, if it's true, Trump, because he's, he, he's gonna let somebody else be the star of that show. No way. The, I mean, if, if he could, it, the, the, the spacecraft would have T R U M P flashing. It wouldn't be like, you know, the, the, the end scene of Close Encounters. It's not just lights. It would spell out problem. He would spell out Trump. He would be the guy. If this is true, believe me, this is the biggest announcement in all of human history. It's not going to be just leaked out. The President would, The President would have to be the one. I don't care who the President is. The President would have to be the one that would break it to the American people and the world. It would have to be. You're going to say, marco, I know you're Busy on like 80 different jobs. I need you to go out, talk to the people about the lizard people. I'm working on negotiations right now. No, it has to be the president. And there's. There's no way. I just. I don't believe it. And I don't. And even if it's true, I don't believe this is going to shake the faith. I think this would bring faiths together. I think Christians and. Well, at least Christians. I mean, if you. If you believe in the Bible, if you're like, I don't know, I'm just gonna. I'm gonna. I'm. I'm thinking about it, then maybe you believe the lizard person. But if you believe the Bible, you believe in Jesus Christ, if he's worked his atoning power in your life at all, this is not going to shake you. It's not. It's not.
Guests: Tim Stewart & Rep. Chip Roy
Date: May 6, 2026
Episode Overview:
This episode features wide-ranging conversations on current American energy policy, the ongoing crisis with Iran, domestic surveillance and government overreach (including the controversial “kill switch” in cars), the growing abuse of the U visa system for immigrants, and America’s fundamental misunderstandings about its heritage and values—punctuated by Glenn’s characteristic wit and exasperation. Notable guests include Tim Stewart, President of the U.S. Oil and Gas Association, and Rep. Chip Roy (TX). The episode closes with Beck’s thoughts on rumors about secret government meetings with pastors regarding “lizard people” and alien disclosure.
Guest: Tim Stewart, President, U.S. Oil and Gas Association
Iran’s Oil Crisis & Global Impact (03:32–11:50)
Energy Prices & Industry Dynamics (11:50–15:51)
Guest: Rep. Chip Roy (TX)
Background & Legislative Battle (17:24–23:34)
Broader Surveillance State Concerns (21:49–26:17)
Discussion led by Glenn Beck & Rep. Chip Roy
The U Visa Loophole (26:18–29:17)
Accountability & Corruption (29:17–32:30)
Glenn Beck’s Rant & Cultural Critique
Immigration: Context and Misinterpretation (32:48–46:24)
Call to National Self-Respect
News Update & Roundtable
Iran Blockade & Trump's Statement (46:31–50:24)
Lizard People, UFOs, and Religious Panic? (50:24–58:18)
This episode underscores the complexity of America’s current crossroads—foreign crises, economic turmoil, threats to privacy, and ongoing debates about what it means to be American. Glenn Beck, along with Tim Stewart and Rep. Chip Roy, pushes for renewed vigilance, skepticism toward government narratives, and reclamation of founding principles. The episode is punctuated by moments of humor (the lizard people segment) and impassioned calls for personal and national self-respect. Beck’s core message: Wake up, stand up for American values, and don’t let your “goodness be used against you.”