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Glenn Beck
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Jonathan Pageau
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Glenn Beck
The dark on every side Stand your ground when times get dark Gotta face the dark and embrace the fire the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program. Oh, hello, America. Do we live in a paradise? Parallel universe? Could be. Did you see President Biden's farewell address last night? That came from a parallel universe. I thought we slipped through a wormhole. It's. What's happening today is bizarre and exciting. We're just a few days away. We're just four days away from the fundamental transformation of the United States of America and Donald Trump. But there's some warnings coming from our government. We have that. And I had Michael Shellenberger on last night, and what an interesting conversation. He is one of, I think, the most trustworthy sources out there because he doesn't go looking for his answers. He goes looking for the answer. And he won't say things that he doesn't know for sure. And I started asking him about the drones and I said, what do you think? Are we gonna find out the truth on these? What are these? And he said, I can't tell you what they are. But he said, I will be shocked if there ares. And I said, china. I would be shock even more if it was China. I'm like, okay, we're narrowing things down. And I said, outer space. And he said, I don't think outer space. Well, I'm out at that point. But he wasn't. And there's some breaking news coming later today and tomorrow that is groundbreaking on this. I'm doing an interview today, a podcast for tonight on the Blaze with a guy who's an. An icon carver. And there's a lot of. I know this sounds weird. There's a lot of lost information in icons, and we're in a spiritual age. We're going to talk to him for just a few minutes. He's sitting in an airport. He's coming in from Montreal and he's halfway here. So we're going to talk to him in just a second. Standby first.
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Glenn Beck
So Jonathan Pageau is with us. Yes, he's French, but he's French Canadian, so it lessens the blow a little bit. He's with us now. He is an icon carver. You can find it at Peugeot Carvings.com he also writes a lot. Orthodox Arts Journal.org and he speaks on the symbolic world symbol. The symbolic world.com and that's what I want to talk to him about. I want to talk to him about, you know, there's a lot of things I love icons and, and carving. You know, Thomas Jefferson said if you really want to embed the truth, you want people to remember who your society was embedded in your architecture. And there's a lot of lost meaning in icons. And I was talking about this today with one of my researchers and she said, you know, Jonathan's probably going to be able to talk about this and I don't know how he's going to talk about this, but I wanted to get him on first thing as he's in the airport traveling here for the full show later today. Jonathan, welcome to the program.
Jonathan Pageau
It's good to meet you.
Glenn Beck
It's nice to meet you. I can't wait to meet you in person. So we were talking about, I had a conversation with Michael Shellenberger. Do you know who he is?
Jonathan Pageau
Yes.
Glenn Beck
Yeah. So Michael Shellenberger. Last night I asked him about the, the UFOs or the UAPs, the flying disc, whatever they are, in all over America, in the world. And I said, what do you think those are? And he said, well, I'll be surprised if they're China. And I said, wow, okay. And he said I'd be, I'd be shocked if they were ours. And I said, well, we're narrowing it down here, Michael, where are you going? And he said, and I don't think they came from outer space. I said, okay, I'm out of options. And he said, well, I don't know. He said, but the most logical is some sort of other dimensional being. And he said that could be spiritual, that could be scientific, going into the, you know, a fourth dimension. And I went down a rabbit hole last night at 2:00 in the morning just looking at all this stuff. And I mean, we're in for something huge if that's what it is. Game changing. Do you have any comments on this?
Jonathan Pageau
Well, I think the first thing to say in terms of meaning, like the thing that I'm interested in is really symbolic structures and symbolic meaning. The first thing to understand is that this is an unidentified phenomenon. That's really important. That is, we don't know what it is. There's a category for that, right? So we're trying to guess, we're trying to understand. It's something like the category of stranger, right? That is because it's like an alien influence. We use that word, alien as well. And so no matter where it comes from at this moment, it's playing an alien influence on us that is, it's acting on us in a way that it's making us trying to understand what their intentions are. What exactly is the reason for this happening? Why doesn't fit in our normal meaning structure. And that in some ways is really important. It's like a monster, right? You encounter a monster, you don't know what that is. You have no idea. A sphinx or something like that. That is the role that a lot of these stories are playing. The alien, the extraterrestrial the unidentified object, Unidentified flying object. And so people try to connect it with all these other stories that. That we encounter. And so, of course, people are going to have religious interpretations of it. They also are going to have kind of scientific inquiries about it. And the only thing we can do is try to figure. Once we figure out what they are, then they won't be that. They won't be alien anymore, they won't be unidentified, and we'll be able to know how to deal with them. But until we are, we have an idea of what they are now we're dealing with the problem of something that's like a monster, that's like a hybrid monster that you don't know what it means. So that's the way that I see it.
Glenn Beck
You know, I was thinking today, I got up after a fitful few hours of sleep, and I thought, this is Nietzsche. We have destroyed God. And we, you know, so many no longer believe in God. They believe science is God, man is God, whatever. And we are looking at making things. For instance, Abigail Schreiber says, you know, there's now this. This thing that is not part of you, but lives outside of you and inside of you that might tell you that you're a different gender. Well, that sounds like a soul that's misinformed. And so it's. So it seems as though we are creating or recreating a religion in our society.
Jonathan Pageau
That's exactly right. And for sure, the extraterrestrial and the unidentified flying orb lights are a way to kind of reinscribe religious stories and religious imagery into our world with a scientific lens. And so. And often the problem, I think, and that's why I focused on meaning before that, the problem is that we're so focused on understanding what these phenomena are in terms of, you know, what is their physical, mechanical causes.
Michael Shellenberger
And we.
Jonathan Pageau
We are not trying to figure out what they're doing in terms of the way we perceive ourselves and the way we perceive our place in the cosmos. And so. And that's what. That's the biggest thing, AI, all of these questions. People are always asking the technical question, but very few people are asking, what does it mean for us to be dealing with these types of intelligences that are kind of poking their nose back into the world right now?
Glenn Beck
So what would happen to us? I mean, my faith would be fine, but what would happen to us if we did find that we weren't alone in the universe?
Jonathan Pageau
Well, you know, you could ask the question in all kinds of ways. What happened when we discovered that There was a whole continent that we didn't know about and that there were cultures that nobody has ever talked about and no one has ever dealt with. The situation would be the same. It would be catastrophic. In some ways. It would lead to the end of a world. It would lead to mass transformation, but it wouldn't change the basic structure of what meaning is and what spirituality is. When we talk about God, what we're talking about, in some ways it would be a big clash, like the Colombian clash, you could say. But it wouldn't destroy religion at all. I don't see why it even affects that.
Glenn Beck
Right. You know, in looking at icons that are. That have happened all over the world, you see a lot of the same kind of icons on different continents that look to be like a. Some sort of a alien or something that's coming from the sky. You see the huge icons that can really only be viewed from up above and made at a time when nobody was up above. What do you make of those?
Jonathan Pageau
Well, I think that the idea of something that comes down from heaven is definitely a. You know, it's a universal image. It's universal structure. It has to do with how light is up in the heavens. It has to do with how the stars are like a big clock that, you know, structure our world. And that's really important to understand now. We have to be careful and not confuse that with the kind of scientific worldview that we live in right now. And so there's a kind of inversion that happened at some point during the Copernican revolution where now, you know, how can I say this? It used to be that the Earth was the place in which we stood, and we look at the heavens to kind of. To give us meaning. But now we've changed that. You know, the heavens are as physical and as mechanical as our bodies. And so they're not that. They're not the spiritual thing. They're not the pattern that helps us. At least when you see it from the scientific point of view, the sun still gives us meaning. You know, it still casts light on your day. It's still. It still basically structures your. Your entire existence because you comes up in the morning, it goes in the evening, you wake up, you go to sleep. But we have to be careful not to confuse science fiction with spirituality. And I think that that's a big danger.
Glenn Beck
And what do you mean by that?
Jonathan Pageau
Well, what I mean is, you know, the idea, for example, that there are alien beings outside in the world is far more similar to the ancient story of what we Call the Mariners Tale. Right. Or something like going and discovering a new continent in America. So when we do that. Well, now outer space has become something like the ocean, or you see that in Star Trek, the ocean that you go out and then you explore and you find these new worlds and find these new beings that you had never seen before. And that's very different from, let's say, a spiritual hierarchy of. Of gods or of angels that are qualitatively different from us, you know, and that are in some ways the beings that provide meaning to smaller beings. You know, like angels are messengers from higher meaning down into us. And so it's.
Michael Shellenberger
It.
Jonathan Pageau
What. The reason why I say that is because there will be a great temptation to confuse. If we encounter aliens like extraterrestrial beings, there'll be a great temptation to confuse those with the idea of angels or of gods. And we already see people talking about it that way, you know, like, as if they have this idea that, you know, the ancient stories of gods and of angels were just extraterrestrials visiting.
Glenn Beck
Correct. Yeah, yeah. And you also, I mean, I'll get into this with you later when you come in. But the idea of a golem, I think we're. We're about to enter the word world of a new golem with AI. And the old story of Gollum is like, it's unbelievable. It's. That matches today what we're going through.
Jonathan Pageau
Well, we definitely, I think that humans have had intuition about the notion of artificial life and artificial beings for a very long time.
Glenn Beck
Right.
Jonathan Pageau
And for sure, the story of the golem is a great warning about, you know, how when we try to manipulate intelligence.
Glenn Beck
Yes.
Jonathan Pageau
We try to capture it in physical terms, how it can, you know, turn against us. There's also that image in Revelation of, you know, the beast that. The statue that speaks. Like, if we make this creation of ours speak, then everybody is. Is surprised and it can be deluded by it.
Glenn Beck
Yeah. I'm anxious to talk to you. I can't wait to have a safe flight here, Jonathan. We'll talk to you a little while.
Jonathan Pageau
Thanks, Ben.
Glenn Beck
All right. Bye. Bye. Jonathan Pageau, he is going to be on the podcast tonight.
Stu Burguiere
Also going to be on a plane in about 10 seconds.
Glenn Beck
It is, you know, it's weird because do you remember the book we talked about years ago called Hitler's Monsters?
Stu Burguiere
Oh, yeah.
Glenn Beck
We're repeating right now, we are beginning to enter this world where perverse spirituality is starting to take hold. People are looking for meaning and things. There is a. There's A bright light that is happening. I think we're at the very beginning of a new great awakening. But at the same time, I mean, it just really freaked me out with Michael Shellenberger yesterday because he's, he's not a guy to. He just doesn't, he doesn't exaggerate, he doesn't chime in on things that he's not sure of. And he made it very clear. I'm not sure, but he's like, if I had to place my money, I wouldn't place it on China or America. That this is Earth technology or technology that mankind has.
Stu Burguiere
Gosh, that's unbelievable.
Glenn Beck
That's unbelievable.
Stu Burguiere
I even know what to think about that.
Glenn Beck
I know, I know.
Stu Burguiere
But I guess those are the times we're in. Good, good, good. Repeating Hitler's monsters.
Glenn Beck
Great, great. Well, we didn't, we didn't know the first time. I mean, Nietzsche warned us, but we didn't have. I mean, we, we can figure this out this time. And I think God gave us a break. I think it's going to be a quick break. Really quick break. But he did give us a break to catch our breath and say, okay, wait, wait, wait. What's really going on? It's going to be every, everything, everything should end with this every day. It's going to be interesting to see how we navigate this.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
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Stu Burguiere
I mean, I'm skeptical that it's a foreign power. I just think it's too aggressive. I mean, when China threatens us, it's in the South China Sea. You know, we haven't caught a single one of these drones, which suggests that it's anomalous, certainly unidentified, I don't think. I can't see Iran having this technology. It does appear to be behaving like other UAPs. And so, you know, I'm skeptical that it's a foreign power. It could be the United States government, but then we would have really advanced technology and there's like 1947 National Security act, the Fourth Amendment, there's plenty of things. It would be illegal to be conducting a UAP experiment on the American people. So, yeah, look, I mean, I'm still a person of faith. I still have my faith. I don't imagine that somebody's going to say something that will undermine that. But obviously there's some concern that if they are nhi, if they're non human, then there's some sense in which people won't be able to handle it.
Glenn Beck
You know, we're grown ups. We were able to handle the reality.
Stu Burguiere
The earth revolves around the sun. I think we can handle the fact if that is what it is and we don't know, but if that is what it is, we deserve to know our constitutional right.
Glenn Beck
Michael, it's going to be an interesting year. Let me ask you, because I asked him, I said Trump is saying that he's going to come out with what it is on Tuesday. And he seems very nonchalant about it. And he said, yeah, that's the one thing I can't figure out. He said if he does know, you know, it's either the United States breaking the law or it's China telling us don't even think about Taiwan or it's, you know, non human. And all three of those are disturbing. And he said Trump is just taking this very casually. But I'm not sure if Donald Trump knows yet as the president. He says he does, but does he? I don't know. And if it is, are we going to get the tr. I think so. The way Donald Trump is going to really solidify a bigger base is to just come out with all the facts on everything. Just say them, here they are, here are the documents. Here's what it is. And I think people will actually appreciate that now.
Stu Burguiere
I mean, I, I don't know if there's, there is some weird interdimensional alien force coming down here. It would explain the Tim Walls pick.
Glenn Beck
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Stu Burguiere
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Glenn Beck
Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. So yesterday in the hearings, it went really, really well. Pam Bondi was great. I don't, I honestly don't know how these people stand it. You know, when they're like, are you gonna live within the law? Are you gonna show up and make sure that people show up if they have been subpoenaed by Congress? Are you kidding me? I was just waiting for Pam Bondi. I mean, I, I want one of them to just do this. Just sit there at the desk and then when they ask a question about what you're going to do and do you find that to be un American, then just sit there and hold up a mirror? I don't know. Why don't you ask that guy?
Stu Burguiere
You know, it's like, it'll be a fun moment.
Glenn Beck
Oh, my gosh. The, the exchanges that they had yesterday.
Stu Burguiere
The temptation to be snarky and sarcastic and yell at them must be incredibly intense for these people. But, but you can't do that. You have to do the opposite, right? You have to sit there and take all the questions and ask them as if you think they're actual honest questions, answer them as if you think they're actually honest questions. It's gotta be torture.
Glenn Beck
Let me just. I mean, this, this was torture. Maybe for Adam Schiff. Not for, not for you. So let me play cut four. Here's Pambani with Adam Schiff has called for it publicly. You are aware of that, aren't you? No one has asked me to investigate, but the President has called. We're also worried about Liz Cheney. The President has called for it. You know what we should be worried about? Ms. Bondi, please answer my question right now. You are aware of the roof, Ms. Bondi, your robbery higher than the national. Do you have the power to say no to the president? And what you're suggesting today by your non answer is you don't have the independence to say no to the President. So let me ask you a different question. Also requires you, if you're going to be a good Attorney General, to be able to tell hard truths to the President. So my questions now are, can you tell hard truth to the President? So let me start with an easy truth that you could speak to the President. Can you tell us, can you tell him that Donald Trump lost the 2020 election?
Stu Burguiere
Can you say that you have the.
Glenn Beck
Independence, you have the gravitas, the stature, the intestinal fortitude to say Donald Trump, you lost the 2020 election. Can you tell us that here today, Senator, What I can tell you is I will never play politics. You're trying to engage me in a gotcha. I want you to speak truth with any on point. So let me ask you another. Like you did leaving your Devin Nunes memo. If you be able to review hundreds of cases on day one, I will look at every file. I am. Of course you won't.
Stu Burguiere
So will you advise the president?
Glenn Beck
Can I answer the question? Well, my question. I would have plenty of staff. You said of course you want. You'll be able to review. I'm not going to mislead this body, nor you. All right, let me ask another question. You don't want to answer that. Let me ask another question. You were censured by Congress, Senator, for comments just like this that are so referenced. Oh, my fun. Yeah. I don't think they're going to just lay down and take it. I just don't think this administration, with the people that we've seen. Do you hear Marco Rubio yesterday? Marco Rubio was also like, what, the cut 3. Marco Rubio. If we stay on the road we're.
Jonathan Pageau
On right now, in less than 10.
Glenn Beck
Years, virtually everything that matters to us in life will depend on whether China will allow us to have it or not.
Jonathan Pageau
Everything from the blood pressure medicine we take to what movies we get to.
Glenn Beck
Watch and everything in between, we will depend on China for it. They have come to dominate the critical mineral industry supplies throughout the world, everywhere in the world.
Jonathan Pageau
They've now established critical mineral rights. Even those who want to see more electric cars.
Glenn Beck
No matter where you make them, those.
Jonathan Pageau
Batteries are almost entirely dependent on the ability of the Chinese and the willingness.
Glenn Beck
Of the Chinese Communist Party to produce it and export it to you. So if we don't change course, we are going to live in a world where much of what matters to us on a daily basis, from our security to our health, will be dependent on whether the Chinese allow us to have it or not.
Stu Burguiere
That's an unacceptable outcome.
Glenn Beck
Mic drop. Look at the difference between what he just said and what our State Department's been saying about China. We've been pussyfooting around and there's just no more pussyfooting. It's just. It's not going to happen.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah, no, it's true. And you know, you like to see the pushback. You like to see someone taking an. Actually a strong stand that seems like it aligns with common sense, which I would argue both of those people were Bondi in particular. That exchange with Adam Schiff is a really good reminder. We talked about this yesterday. Will California wake up? They just elected Adam Schiff to the Senate.
Glenn Beck
I know.
Stu Burguiere
So you want to talk about if It, I don't know if anything can change that State. Maybe it's these horrible tragedies, but they're months away from putting Adam Schiff in the Senate. That is a remarkable transformation. If they can make it.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, but we're four days away from this. So I'm just, I'm just saying the world can change quickly.
Stu Burguiere
It can. It does seem to be, at least at some level. I just, It's a, It's a heavy lift in California.
Glenn Beck
So let's talk about this deal in the Middle East. Here is. And remember, the State Department is, is ground zero for everything bad in the world. I mean, I, I honestly, I think Marco Rubio should go in and he should fire everyone on the seventh floor. Maybe the six, just fire them all. You're all gone. I don't care if you're. Some of you are good. I don't have time to sort it out. You're all gone. Because it has been out of control since, really, fdr, and they think that they're in charge of the world. And it is, it is the State Department that has brought us these endless wars and everything else. They gotta go. They all have to go. So with that in mind, listen to the State Department spokesperson on the Hamas deal. Listen to this. When it comes to the involvement of President Elect Trump's team, it has been absolutely critical in getting this deal over the line. And it's been critical because obviously, as I stand here today, this administration's term in office will expire in five days. And one of the things that we have always said about this deal is that when you get from stage one to stage two, that the United States, Egypt and Qatar are the guarantors of this deal. And Egypt and Qatar will push Hamas to stay at the bargaining table and to get from stage one to stage two. And the United States will push Israel to stay at the bargaining table to get from phase one and phase two. So obviously, those are promises we cannot make on behalf of the United States for any longer than the next, Next five days. And so it's critical that all of the parties to the agreement and the other mediators see that when the United States is in the room making commitments, those are lasting commitments that extend beyond this administration into the next one. Okay, so stop. There are long standing commitments that will, they will go long past the five days. Well, they didn't even make it to day two. Overnight, this deal has started to fall apart. And it started to fall apart with Benjamin Netanyahu and the Israelis. Okay, well, wait, I Thought that's the critical role that Donald Trump was playing. That's what he just said. We. We can bring Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel to the table. Well, Benjamin Netanyahu did not go to the table under Biden. Didn't come to the table. No, Hamas didn't come to the table because of Biden. This is all happened because Donald Trump said this. Cut one. I think they heard him loud and clear. Better get done by the inaugural.
Michael Shellenberger
When you say all hell before I.
Glenn Beck
Take off, that all hell must be paid if they don't release the news, don't you? Well, do I have to define it for you? All hell will break out if those hostages aren't back.
Jonathan Pageau
I don't want to hurt your negotiation.
Glenn Beck
If they're not back by the time I get into office, all hell will break out in the Middle east, and it will not be good for Hamas. Okay, so wait, how is Donald Trump responsible for a deal that looks like it's really good for Hamas and not good for Israel? All hell will break loose. This is the only reason why they're talking. And Joe Biden, eager to make a deal, made a deal that's good for Hamas, not Israel. So that's falling apart right now.
Stu Burguiere
The deal's falling apart already.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, Fell apart overnight, looks like. It's not like it's not holding well.
Stu Burguiere
Because, I mean, it is. Obviously has some good in it for Israel and potentially America. Right, with potentially American hostages released, but potentially. We don't know, but it's something like 33 for 1000 or something of that. As always with these deals, it heavily.
Glenn Beck
Favors Hamas, and it leaves Hamas in kinds of things that are bad for Israel.
Stu Burguiere
It is not. It does not end the war, though, right? It is a no.
Glenn Beck
It's a fire.
Stu Burguiere
Okay?
Glenn Beck
So, yeah, that's important. So Donald Trump is the reason why something will happen. Okay. Biden has not been able to make a deal, get them at the table. He can make a deal now, but it's a Biden deal, a bad deal. He can make that deal with them right now because they all know Daddy's coming home. We better stop our bickering, because Daddy's gonna solve it. And I'm not sure we're gonna like the solution coming from Daddy. So they try to get into a deal. Uh, notice if the Israelis are the ones pulling out. You don't think Benjamin Netanyahu is just springing that on Donald Trump? He's not. Just like, Donald Trump's not getting up today going, wait, the deal fell apart Benjamin Netanyahu and the Israeli Knesset don't want to deal with that. What happened? Uh, they were on the phone with him. So he knows that this is no matter what the White House tries to do and rope him in. This is not his deal. It's moving because of him, but that's all. And I take him seriously. When he said, I mean, let's talk about this in a week. Let's talk about this next Friday. Where will this story be next Friday? Because I don't think it will be here. You'll notice he said, make a deal before I even get into office. There's going to be a lot of talk with Hamas on what exactly they have to do and what the ramifications are because I would not put it past Donald Trump. By Monday evening, drones to be flying over Hamas, he'll, he will release hell on them. He's, he is a guy that keeps his word because he knows if I don't, then I'm known as somebody who just bluffs. And I not going to do that because that puts the United States into real trouble. And he's been real clear on this over and over and over and over again. Hell will be paid if you don't release the hostages by the time I'm in office. So we'll see exactly what is coming on. By the way, we have, we're going to talk about China and what's going on with China, because there's some, there's some interesting things going on with China. Is China preparing for war or is China falling apart? What is the truth? Truth. Gordon Chang is going to be with us. China, he says, is going to war and the Panama Canal could trigger that war. It's really important to understand the Panama Canal, especially since Donald Trump is getting in next week. What does it mean? Gordon Chang is going to be talking about that here in just a few minutes. First, exactly how far into an emergency situation do you have to get before you think, wow, Glenn was right. Sure, I prepared for this. Right about the time you find yourself stuck in a mile long line stretching around the corner for the grocery store just to get some food. You know when you realize that it's too late. My Patriot supply right now. No lines. Always be prepared for the worst while hoping for the best. Storing emergency food in your home is the right thing to do. We still live in crazy times and you and your family could need it. The best place to go is my Patriot supply. Their food is delicious and it will keep you and your family alive in case there's real trouble. 2,000 calories per day, 100% of your daily value of 12 essential vitamins and minerals. The kit keeps you going even when every meal matters. They're offering $50 off their four week food kit. Go to my patriotsupply.com Grab yours right now. Don't put it off. Prepare at mypatriotsupply.com Prepare at mypatriotsupply dot com get your four week food kit at a discount now. My patriotsupply.com is Glenn Becky, We've talked.
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Glenn Beck
Gordon Chang I followed for a very long time and we don't always agree on everything. He has said for a long time that China is going to fold. It's on the economic edge and it is on the economic edge. But when you're on the economic edge, sometimes you are backed into a corner and an animal backed into a Corner is never good. I'm having him on because he's. He's now saying that. That China could take down. In fact, he said, if I quote, they're going to take down our grid. They're going to take down everything we have. We are going to be like an 1850s country without the things that we've been accustomed to, all of the things that operate in our country. I don't know. That sounds pretty dire. He also said what happened to the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore is going to happen to the Panama Canal. He says that that is strategic to them and will be the start of the next world war. Will it start in the Panama Canal? Was the name of his article for Newsweek. People are not paying attention to the Panama Canal. Over the summer, the President said to me, and I didn't know anything about the Panama Canal, and he said to me, you know, the real crisis, the real choke point is the Panama Canal. And I said, oh, yeah. He said, really? And he said, yeah, do your homework on the Panama Canal. That's going to play a very important role in 2025. He said that to me months ago. And I started looking into it and I'm like, he's right. He's right. I mean, he is way ahead. They have positioned companies, and companies are all part, especially in wartime. They become representatives of the Communist China, Chinese party and military, and they have their companies run both the mouth and the exit, if you will, of the Panama Canal. And they have companies all the way along. It could. They could take that thing quickly if they wanted to. What do we do about it? I don't know. How much of a threat is it? I don't know. Gordon Chang says a big threat, but he is also on record saying they're so close to collapse. So which is it? Are they stronger than we think, or are they a tiger backed into a corner, ready to do something to. To galvanize their society? Which is what I think they need some sort of nationalistic movement because their society is starting to revolt against the Chinese Communist Party. We'll talk about that. Gordon Chang next. This is Glenn Beck. Let's talk about Patriot Mobile. So we won the last election. That's great news. But this is the start of the journey, as you know. We have to rebuild. We have to have him just plowing through a lot of stuff. And this week has given me confidence that he's putting the team around him that he needs. Now, part of this means continuing to build the parallel economy, doing our part. And I want you to consider switching your cell service to Patriot Mobile. Why? Because they are a vital part of that parallel economy. They are, they are vital to absolutely everything that is happening in your local community. They are their, their goal of their company, their mission statement is passionately defend our God given constitutional rights and freedoms and glorify God always. And they do. Plus they'll save you money. You'll get the same exact service if you're on one of the three major cell phone that that's that you're gonna be on the same tower, exactly the same coverage, better cost and they're working for saving America. Patriotmobile.com back call 972 Patriot get a free month of service with the promo code. Patriot back free month of service. Switch to Patriot mobile today. Patriot mobile.com beck or 972 Patriot down.
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Glenn Beck
Dark on every side Stand your ground when times the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program. So I want you to be prepared for some of the things that are going to happen because some of them are going to happen quickly. First of all, the Israeli Hamas deal has fallen through. What a surprise. Donald Trump is the reason why they came to the table, but this is still a Biden deal. But he was very, very, very clear, this has to be done before I get into office. If those hostages aren't returned by the time I get into office, there'll be hell to pay. And he is a guy who makes promises. He doesn't threat. He makes promises. One of the things he told me over the summer before he was elected, he said, glenn, I have to tell you, one of the places you really have to keep your eye on is the Panama Canal. And I thought it was just because, you know, we were getting screwed by the Panama Canal, blah, blah, blah. But that's not it. As I started looking into it, that thing is run by China. And China has operatives up and down at the mouth and the butt end of the Panama Canal. It all runs through China. That's not a good thing, especially if China is going to war. Now, Gordon Chang, he is a guy who has been talking about China his whole life. He is really, really astute on this. He has said for a long time that China is a paper tiger in some ways, that it is in such financial trouble. And turns out he's right. They are in deep financial trouble. But have they now been backed into a corner? He now says China is going to war and it will be the Panama Canal. True. Gordon Chang is here to talk about China in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about American Financing. I want you to think about what it would look like to be out of debt, especially all the high interest stuff. I warn you, interest rates are going to go up. Things are going to get worse before they get better. So now is the time to get out of that high interest debt. If you have huge credit card debt, it's not a fantasy. This could be your reality to be out of debt. If you're a homeowner and you want to work on ways to get out from under high interest debt, Please call American Financing.net. call them now. 800-906-2440. It's American Financing.net. there are ways and you may not even know all of the options, but they do and they work for you, not the bank. Last year it was about $836 every month that any listener that came from this show saved. That's like a $10,000 raise. So please, just see if you can be helped and get out of debt. American Financing at 800-906-2440. It's American Financing.net 182334 nmlsconsumeraccess.org APR for Ritz in the five starts at 6.799% for well qualified borrowers. Call 800-906-2440 for details about credit costs and terms. Okay, thank you very much. All right. Gordon Chang is with us now, author of China Is Going to War. Gordon, welcome to the program. How are you?
Michael Shellenberger
I'm fine, thanks, Glenn, and thank you so much.
Glenn Beck
Yeah. I've wanted to talk to you about the panic Panama Canal. There's a lot of things I want to talk to you about with China. You know, you have been saying for a long time China is a paper tiger. They've got, you know, real problems with their economy, which, which is proven to be absolutely right. They're in real trouble, which kind of makes me nervous because when somebody is backed into a corner and because of their economy, they're starting to have uprisings or at least people vocalizing that we're not with everything that China is doing, they're going broke. They're losing all of the money they've put towards housing, et cetera, et cetera. They need some sort of a nationalistic kind of move to galvanize the population behind the party. At least that's the way I look at it. Do you think that's accurate?
Michael Shellenberger
And what is coming, Xi Jinping clearly needs a war. And the reason is that he is being held responsible for China's simultaneous crises, which is not just a crumbling economy, but it's also, as you point out, plunging property prices. That's really important because 70% of the wealth of the Chinese middle class is in property, and they're losing double digits every year. But you go through the list of all the problems, and Xi knows that the only way out for him is a misadventure abroad. And I think he wants it for one primary reason, and that is if he has a war, he prevents other Communist Party leaders from challenging him and deposing him him, because he knows that they can't move against him in a warlike situation with the Chinese people. I suppose he wants to galvanize them. But we've got to remember that the Chinese people right now are really unhappy. They don't want a war. They just want peace and prosperity. They know the Communist Party is responsible for taking away those two things, and they're not very happy right now.
Glenn Beck
So a couple of weeks ago, I did a show on what I. I thought might happen in 2025, and one of them was, China's going to war. But I thought it would be something that was not the Panama Canal. It would be something where we wouldn't get involved, but it would. It would help them and their people. So they would go into one of the countries around them and just take it and go to war. Do you think that's likely? Or more likely, it's going to be something big?
Michael Shellenberger
Well, right now we've got proxy wars that China is waging in Ukraine, North Africa and in the Middle east and Israel. So one more war looks like global conflict, World War three. So anything can happen, Glenn. And so we have to be prepared for anything at any place, at any time. I think that Xi Jinping is going to stumble into a war someplace in East Asia. South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Philippines, something like that. But the first sign that we will have of a war could be an incident in the Panama Canal, because the Chinese want to prevent the US Navy from taking ships and submarines from the Atlantic Fleet to the Pacific Fleet. So we may know about this first, and this war may start in our own hemisphere.
Glenn Beck
And you've written that you think that an accident, something that. Like what happened at the Francis Scott Key Bridge, where something just goes wrong with a ship and then just. Just destroys the Panama Canal for at least a few days. Is that what you think, how it would begin?
Michael Shellenberger
Yes, there are any number of ways for China to do that. So, for instance, they could Take a ship, they could ram one of the locks. They could scuttle it in the Culebra Cut, which is a narrow portion of the canal. They could also take down a bridge. Bridge. They're building the fourth bridge over the canal. They can design that bridge to come down easily, or they could construct it so that it falls apart. These are things that we've got to be worried about because the Chinese have a thorough knowledge of, and they penetrated Panama, so they know what to do. You know, one thing that we learned in New Orleans on New Year's Day, and that is when you have a determined adversary who knows a lot about the territory, the place is crowded. It's very difficult to prevent a terrorist act. It's the same thing with the Panama Canal. The Chinese are there. They've thoroughly penetrated everything. They know what to do. Yes, we can think about contingencies, but the Chinese will be one step ahead of us.
Glenn Beck
So explain to people, because China says they're not there, but there's. What is it? CK Hutchinson or something like that, A company that was from Hong Kong has been there for a long time, and they're saying that, no, that's not the Chinese. Explain what they actually have in assets there.
Michael Shellenberger
They have. Well, you talk about Hutchinson. They've got ports at both ends of the Canal, at Balboa on the Pacific end and San Cristobal on the Atlantic side. But they've also got Chinese state enterprises there. When Laura Richardson, who was head of U.S. southern Command, in the middle of 2022, she flew over the canal and she pointed out all of the Chinese civilian, quote, unquote operations, she said they were dual use. They would be turned into military facilities at a time of war. Now, Hutchinson is a private Hong Kong company, but the point is, in the People's Republic, no company, regardless of ownership, can disobey an order of the Communist Party. So Hutchinson port operations in the Panama Canal Zone will be military bases, as will other Chinese facilities in the area.
Glenn Beck
So what does Donald Trump. I mean, when he told me this and I started looking into the Panama Canal, he told me this months ago and he said, do your homework. And I did. And. And I saw him as somebody who actually knows what's going on and cares about the country and was way ahead. What does he have to do? Because people are pooh, poohing everything he's saying about the Panama. Oh, he wants a war in Panama. No, he doesn't. He just doesn't want that canal to block everything we need in case there is a War. What does he have to do?
Michael Shellenberger
It's going to be very difficult, but I'm sure Trump can do it. And one of the things is we've got to make sure that China doesn't have port operations in the Canal Zone, which means Panama expropriating them. That means we need to have American businesses who are willing to take it over.
Glenn Beck
Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. How do they do that? Didn't they just sign a big contract?
Michael Shellenberger
They renewed for 25 years the franchise for both of those port operations. But a country can expropriate. They can void contracts. We can do it. China can do it. Any country has a sovereign right to do it. So does Panama. And we've got to convince Panama that it is in their interest to do that. So we've got to get the Chinese businesses out of the Canal Zone. Not easy. It's going to take a lot of effort. But when you know what the problem is and you're determined to protect the United States, you can do it. The other thing, and this is last resort, and that is that when we turned over the Panama Canal to Panama, there were two treaties. One of them was called the Neutrality Treaty, which is the treaty that survives, still in existence. We believe the United States, when we ratified that, we had a reservation that allowed the US Military to move into the Canal Zone to protect it from a third country. So that is our ultimate card. Panama won't like that, but there's nothing they can do about it. So clearly we've got a lot of cards to play, but hopefully we don't have to use that one.
Glenn Beck
Right? You wouldn't necessarily use that if we convinced Panama get cancel those leases, right?
Michael Shellenberger
Absolutely. And we've got to make sure that American businesses are interested alive to the possibilities of actually doing business and making profits in places like Central America, South America, Africa. American businesses have, I think, made poor business decisions in allowing those regions to be taken over by the Chinese. We have a strong diplomatic presence in Latin America. These are things that we need to do. And by the way, it's also the Caribbean, just to give you an example, talking about porn operations, China has a porn operation 87 miles east of Palm Beach, Florida. That's in Freeport in the Bahamas. That container port could be turned into a naval base in an instant. So we really need to make sure that we look at all of these Chinese port operations in our hemisphere. They've got 40 of them, Glenn. 40.
Glenn Beck
I will tell you, Gordon, I look at what's happening, and again, I credit Donald Trump for bringing attention to this in a global sort of way. It feels as though we are possibly headed towards a kind of a Cuban missile crisis moment.
Michael Shellenberger
Well, funny you mentioned that because in Cuba, China has taken over the Soviet listening posts and China has.
Glenn Beck
At least we lost him. Hello. Let's get him back on. Let me take a quick one minute break. Be back in just a second. More with Gordon Chang. Lear Capital. Silver might be about to shoot up in price. It is vital in production of solar panels and electric cars and the demand for it has already been rising and continues to rise day after day. But now India is looking at doubling their silver import over the course of this year. They've lowered the import duties by more than half since July of last year. I've been telling you gold and silver for a long time. I've been telling you gold is relatively cheap in comparison. Silver is something that is absolutely going to be needed. It is something the average person can get into. And you know, with way our dollar is going, gosh, we go into a world war with China, it's not going to be good, especially for our dollar. We have no, we have no anything left. We have no gold. Please, Lear Capital, please back yourself up. Do what our Fed should be doing. Do what our treasury should be doing. Do what the Treasuries and the central banks all around the world are doing by reinforcing what you have with gold or silver. 800-957-GOLD. 800-957-Gold. Get your free ownership kit and a special report. $4,400 gold ahead. Just call them, ask for it. Ask how you can also get up to $15,000 in bonus gold with qualifying purchases. 800 nine five seven, gold. That's 800 nine five seven, gold. Call them today. Ten seconds. Station ID. So, Gordon, we lost you a minute ago. You were talking about the listening post of that former Soviet that now has gone to China in Cuba.
Michael Shellenberger
Yes, and there's also a base that China is building. They say it's a training facility, but it's probably going to be turned into a full military base. And China could easily bring missiles into Cuba because they know what happened the first time.
Glenn Beck
Okay, hang on just a second. Hang on. Let, let's disconnect with Gordon. Try to get one more chance at this line.
Stu Burguiere
You know, the problem is Chinese technology on these phone lines.
Glenn Beck
No, that's, that's all American. We stopped them from doing it. So it's good. All American. It is. You know, we haven't even talked about the drones yet. I Don't know what his approach on the drones is, but some people think that is China saying to America, don't even try to stop us. We're going to be making some moves here, and don't even try to stop us. You know, we didn't bring a single one down. I'm not sure we could have brought a single one of the actual. Concerning drones. You know, some of them were, you know, drones that you could. You could buy and we know about, but the ones that are operating differently, we didn't bring a single one down. I don't even know if we tried, though. Gordon, are you there?
Michael Shellenberger
I'm here.
Glenn Beck
Okay, good, good, good. Okay, so you were talking about now maybe China could move missiles into Cuba.
Michael Shellenberger
Yes. Because, you know, the Soviets did it. The Chinese could easily do it. They don't really respect the United States. They certainly haven't during the Biden administration.
Glenn Beck
Right.
Michael Shellenberger
Hopefully under Trump, they would have second thoughts. But right now, Xi Jinping is extremely arrogant, and as you pointed out in the beginning, he is desperate.
Glenn Beck
So I was talking to Donald Trump, this must have been, I don't know, about a year ago, and he said, you know, I was meeting with Xi Jinping when he was president last time, and he said, we were having dinner at Mar a Lago the day they killed the. The Soleimani. And he said, I had it. I had him at dinner, and I planned it so I could walk away and say, excuse me, I have to take care of something. He said, then I came back after we killed Soleimani. And he said, yeah, I just. Sorry, I just had to kill General Soleimani. And Xi Jinping was kind of taken back by that. And he said, yeah, just got to take care of business. And then they started talking, and Donald Trump, they were talking about something, and he said, you don't ever want to do that. Just don't even think about it, Xi Jinping, because I will. You know, I can make Beijing disappear. And he said, he laughed, the Chinese president laughed and then kind of stopped laughing. And Donald Trump just smiled at him and left him with the. With the thought, gosh, this guy might just do that. I'm not sure if he was joking or not. I mean, he plays hardball. Do they respect him?
Michael Shellenberger
I think they do. And the tone was set in April 2017, when Xi Jinping first met Trump as president. And that's when at Mar a Lago, where you have Trump standing up at dinner and saying he had just launched 59 missiles in Syria, which happens to be a Chinese friend. And Xi Jinping was flummoxed. So that's another story of Donald Trump playing power politics. And it works because Xi Jinping was relatively well behaved during the four years of Trump. Yes, he certainly wasn't well behaved during Biden's four years.
Glenn Beck
I heard a story last night that said that China didn't talk to the United States for several months after we blew their balloon out of the sky. And I'm like, we shouldn't. We should have been the ones pissed, not them. What's that all about?
Michael Shellenberger
You know, and that's an important point because the State Department, after we shot the balloon as it crossed into the Atlantic, desperately tried to reestablish communications with China. And that's wrong. I mean, American diplomats have been doing that for decades, and it's not produced good results for us. You know, we should make the Chinese come to us and beg for discussion. We shouldn't be going to the Chinese and saying, we want to talk to you, because that's all wrong. Because the Chinese are doing. Engaged in very bad behavior. And then we look. End up looking craven.
Glenn Beck
I've got a. I hate to do this to you now. We've lost you so many times, but I got to take a break here in a second, but I want to come back and talk to you about the drones and what you think those are. I was talking to somebody the other day, and they said, well, they think this is China warning the Americans that we're going to take Taiwan or whatever it is and don't mess with us. But I think that almost defies logic that they would be that far ahead of the United States. Why would you be stealing our, you know, our plans for our, you know, our. Our military jets if you can do that? Does that make sense to you?
Michael Shellenberger
Yeah, I understand what you're saying. The drones are a little bit complicated because there are a lot of different drones and there are different explanations for each set of them.
Glenn Beck
Okay. All right, so let's come back to that, if you can. Hang on just a second. We'll come back with Gordon Chang. He has a book that is out now. China is going to war. I think he's right. There's something we, you know, we all think, well, China doesn't want war yet. I think they're backed into a corner, and I think they do want war. Xi Jinping needs it to survive. Gordon Chang. More in a minute. This is Glenn beck. So Jane's 71, and she had pain in her knees and her right arm for a Few years, constantly dragging her down. Nothing. She tried help and she started to think she was going to have to deal with the pain for the rest of her life. But that's when she heard me talking about Relief Factor and decided to give it a try. The good news is her pain went away within a couple of weeks. Jane got her life back and so could you. It's a daily supplement that helps your body fight pain by fighting inflammation, which is the source of most of the pain in our bodies and a lot of our disease. It's 100% drug free, developed by doctors to help reduce or eliminate pain. And over a million people have tried Relief Factor's quick start kit. 70% of them have gone on to order it again and again. So make 2025 the year of feeling good and living great again. Again. Try Relief Factor. Get their three week quick start for only 1995. That's less than a dollar a day. I want you to take it exactly as directed and try it for three weeks. If you don't see any difference, stop taking. It's not going to work for you, most likely. But if you see any difference, keep taking it because it'll get better and better. That's less than a dollar a day. Eight hundred for relief. Eight hundred the number four relief. It's relief. Leaf Factor.com.
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Glenn Beck
Ron DeSantis has just announced the pick for Rubio's Senate speech. His pick it is Ashley Moody. She's the Florida Attorney General. She is fantastic. I have met her. I think she's really, really strong. You know, he's talking about immigration, cash crunch, getting rid of the money printing, downsizing the government abolishing department in the national government and restore constitutional order. And he says she is the one to do it. I've got to go back and look at my notes on her and. But I met her probably a year ago because I was concerned. Who's going to replace you? Governor DeSantis. And he said, I'd like you to meet our Attorney General. She's really interested. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Gordon Chang is with us. He is the author of China is Going to War. You can follow him on Twitter at Gordon G. Chang. His website is Gordon Chang dot com. We've been talking about the Panama Canal and the disorder that Xi Jinping has in his own country. The, the unrest that he has can't happen in a communist country. That's not good. But I want to talk to you, Gordon, now, about the. The drones, because the drones were a big deal before the holiday, and now all of a sudden, just nobody's talking about it. And I think it's important that we paid attention to those drones. What do you think they were? And do you think China was involved?
Michael Shellenberger
Well, China is involved in some of the drone incidents, and we know that. So, for instance, a Chinese national flew a drone through Vandenberg Space Force Base at the time of expected launches. So that clearly was China. Also, there have been drone incursions in other military facilities in the US Some of them were China. Some of them could only have been China. In the category of it could only have been in China was Langley Air Force Base, where there was a series of drone incursions. These incursions were far too organized to be hobbyists. The drone drones were far too large to be hobbyist drones. China was involved there. Over my great state of New Jersey, there have been a lot of drones. And I'm sure there are a lot of different explanations for different drones. But there is one thing the Pentagon and the Biden administration has refused to deal with, and that is drones entered US Territorial airspace from the Atlantic Ocean. Those could not have been domestic. Domestic drones. The Pentagon said that they were. I don't think so. So clearly, some foreign power was doing this. We know that some people in my state think it was Iran. But if Iran was doing this, Glenn, it had to have been doing it with the approval and the support of China. Yeah, because Iran does not have the capability to do that on its own.
Glenn Beck
Correct. So Donald Trump says he knows what it is and he doesn't know why the government won't announce what it is. It makes sense to me that some of these drones are coming from a foreign power, but it's awfully provocative. But if you're going to do that, the time to do it is under Biden, because, you know, he ran like a little girl after we shot down the balloon, begging them for forgiveness. We're so sorry. We're so sorry. Excuse me. It's the kind of. He's the kind of guy that would allow them to cross into our airspace and do whatever reconnaissance they want to do. That's really bad. Have we ever done anything like that to China?
Michael Shellenberger
No, certainly not. We have always tried to encourage China into responsible behavior, even though the Chinese were encouraged, engaged in extremely bad conduct. And certainly during the Biden years, he was trying to be as nice as possible to Beijing because he thought that would entice the Chinese into reciprocal good behavior. But as we know, the Chinese just took advantage of that and saw him as weak and they pressed the advantage.
Glenn Beck
What should Trump do if that indeed some of those drones were Chinese? I mean, that, that is. In other times that would have been almost an act of war. If not an act of war. You don't do that. You're violating our airspace and flying over our most sensitive air bases.
Michael Shellenberger
Well, it is an act of war, especially in these circumstances. And I think what Trump should do is to start imposing a asymmetrical costs, because we don't want to fly a balloon over China and we don't have the balloons to fly over China. But we don't want to do something like that. What we want to do is make them hurt. And the way to do that is what Trump has been already talking about, which are tariffs. Tariffs would certainly drive the Chinese economy into an even more desperate situation. I think the Chinese would understand that they cannot continue that. So there are things that we, all sorts of things that we can do to make sure that China engages in much better behavior towards the United States.
Glenn Beck
So who is in the driver's seat, US or China? I mean, they're making 80% of all of our non name brand drugs. I mean, that's. We are, we're in trouble if they cut us off.
Michael Shellenberger
That's the one area where I really the most about. You know, I think that, you know, if you go back to the last months of the first Trump term, Trump actually had implemented a plan to bring pharmaceutical manufacturing back to the United States. He had a $750 million loan program to Eastman Kodak to make APIs active pharmaceutical ingredients. That plan was executed poorly, but I think that given another term, he would be able to come up with even better ways to deal with this. And so I think that we can eliminate that vulnerability to China. We absolutely have to do it.
Glenn Beck
Glenn, are we at war with China in the next 12 months, your prediction?
Michael Shellenberger
I don't think they're going to take Trump on in the next 12 months. I think they could easily stumble into war in East Asia. I hope to God that they won't. But right now is a time where the Chinese regime is desperate and Xi Jinping is desperate because he knows that he has probably no way out other than to engage in some sort of hostile behavior towards a neighbor. Could be Taiwan, but more likely the Philippines. It's anyone's guess though, because is there any number of targets that Xi Jinping has already been going after in various ways.
Glenn Beck
Gordon Chang, thank you very much. China is Going to War is the name of the book, and you can follow him on Twitter. His handle is Ordeng Chang. Gordon G. Chang. Gordon, as always, thank you very much. Good to talk to you.
Michael Shellenberger
Well, thank you, Glenn. I'm so happy you're raising these issues because they're critical to the United States right now.
Glenn Beck
I know. And I don't think people understand. You know, it's really weird that the mainstream media is focusing on. Donald Trump is going to send troops into Greenland. No, he's not. Can you focus on the Panama Canal and China? That's a real threat, not us sending troops into Canada or Greenland. It's insane.
Michael Shellenberger
Yeah. You know, Greenland is a China issue. By the way, as Giorgio Maloney, the Italian prime Minister, said last week, this Greenland talk is all.
Glenn Beck
It's all what?
Michael Shellenberger
It's all about Beijing. It's all about China because of the resources there, because of the resources there. Because China and Russia are cooperating in the arms, trying to push out the United States and Canada. It's all about China.
Glenn Beck
Boy, I really sincerely hope the press will someday get a clue and start talking about the things that actually matter. I was. That's the one thing when he started talking about the Panama Canal that I took away from it. I thought, this guy is actually. He's not talking about paper tigers. He's not talking about politics. He's talking about something that actually is important that nobody's paying attention to. So, Gordon, thank you. God bless.
Michael Shellenberger
Thank you, Glenn.
Glenn Beck
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Stu Burguiere
Okay.
Glenn Beck
And I also want you to just keep track and we'll talk about it. After which how many of them are real conservatives and how many are rhinos.
Stu Burguiere
So I need multiple scorecards here as we do this.
Glenn Beck
No, you just need Democrat, Republican and Rhinos.
Stu Burguiere
Okay?
Glenn Beck
Okay.
Stu Burguiere
Okay.
Glenn Beck
So count the rhinos in the Republicans as well.
Stu Burguiere
Okay?
Glenn Beck
You got it.
Stu Burguiere
I'll try.
Glenn Beck
All right. David Rouser.
Stu Burguiere
Okay. He's a Republican.
Glenn Beck
Debbie Schultz, Democrat. Ron Wyden, Democrat.
Stu Burguiere
Roger Williams, Republican.
Glenn Beck
Make sure you remember, if you mark a Republican, make sure you remind me.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah, that's going to be your tougher one.
Glenn Beck
I know.
Stu Burguiere
Morgan McGarvey, Democrat.
Glenn Beck
Larry Bouchon, Republican. Pete Sessions, Republican. Susan Collins, Republican. That has gotten a little easier. The secondary.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
David Kustoff, Republican. Nancy Pelosi.
Stu Burguiere
I'm pretty sure she's independent, Democrat. And Wagner, and Wagner is a Republican.
Glenn Beck
Tom, Tom Suozi, Democrat. Dan Crenshaw, Republican. Kathy Manning.
Stu Burguiere
Democrat.
Glenn Beck
Dan Sullivan, Republican. Seth Moulton, Democrat. Tina Smith, Democrat. Mark Garcia. Well, I got two more names. Mike Garcia. Look that one up. Let's see, Republican Brian Donalds.
Stu Burguiere
Byron Donalds. Yep, he's definitely a Republican. And John Curtis, Republican, new Republican Senator.
Glenn Beck
How many, what is the total?
Stu Burguiere
So 12 Republicans, eight Democrats, if I counted that right.
Glenn Beck
Okay. How many of the Republicans are Republicans? In name only.
Stu Burguiere
I mean, it's tough. I mean, I would certainly wouldn't say Byron Donalds is.
Glenn Beck
I would say Dan Crenshaw is. Yeah, I mean Sessions, you know, I would say over.
Stu Burguiere
How about over 50%?
Glenn Beck
Okay. Yeah. Okay. Last night the President of the United States gave a speech and what was he worried about? What was one of the things he Said, had to say stop.
Stu Burguiere
I mean he said many things.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, I know.
Stu Burguiere
The oligarchy.
Glenn Beck
The oligarchy and the fact that congressmen can benefit from the stock market. Okay, this is the latest report of 2024 members of Congress who made the most in the stock market.
Stu Burguiere
Interesting.
Glenn Beck
Number one Republican with a 149% return.
Stu Burguiere
It's a good year. That's a good year.
Glenn Beck
Yeah. Debbie Schultz, 142. Ron Wyden, 123. Roger Williams, 100. How much? 111. How much did you, what were your returns like? I mean your returns got to be no. 3, 400.
Stu Burguiere
No less significantly. Less than 100% less than I thought I did. I did pretty well too. But no, apparently no.
Glenn Beck
Apparently no. Morgan McGarvey at 105%.
Stu Burguiere
Lots of triple digit annual returns here.
Glenn Beck
Oh yeah. Wow. How is that, how is that possible? Everybody complains about Nancy Pelosi, but let me find her on the list here how good she is now. She's been higher on some years, but she's only a 70% return. Okay. Yeah.
Stu Burguiere
Although the raw numbers are very large with.
Glenn Beck
Yes.
Stu Burguiere
Because she's had a lot of money in the market. But yes, that is. It's nice to have a 70% return.
Glenn Beck
Correct. It would be nice. Can you imagine having at least a 70% return on your money every year?
Stu Burguiere
Very nice.
Glenn Beck
Yeah. People, people fight for 5% return.
Stu Burguiere
I picked a couple of good stocks recently too. I don't know where near 70% annual returns.
Glenn Beck
I'm not, I'm not close to that. I'm not close to that. So. Yeah, my point is here is that this is both sides of the aisle and it tends to be those who are more liberal and big government that are the ones involved in this now. Not all of them obviously. And there are some big government rhinos out there that aren't on this list. But you know, if you want to know who, who, who's working the system, we just look at their portfolios. There's a top 30, you know, Tommy Tuberville, 5.7% return. That's not okay. Tuberville. That's fairly normal.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah. Not even. It's like maybe a little below you expect in a year like this.
Glenn Beck
Right. But it's huge.
Stu Burguiere
With this bidenomics working so well, you'd think you get more than 5%, you know.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, yeah.
Stu Burguiere
But I mean you can get 5% at a bank account if you're in the right one.
Glenn Beck
Correct.
Stu Burguiere
I mean, maybe a little bit less than that these days. But it's right around that.
Glenn Beck
I mean, you're making 10% maybe, you.
Stu Burguiere
Know, 10% returns, I think, are over a long period of time. Totally rational to.
Glenn Beck
And especially the market recently, you know, with the stock market just completely bogus. You can. You could probably make that. But we're gonna go over the farewell speech, you know, because they always try to leave us with some ancient wisdom, you know, know, we got to avoid this and this. And if you just listen to me and my farewell address. So what were the things that Biden was warning us against? Oh, you won't believe it. I'm only. I'm only going over it because I know you didn't watch it. You know, I, I thought about having just AI watch it, but couldn't figure that out yet. Yet is Glenn. And back down the road where shadows.
Jonathan Pageau
Hide Feel the dark on every side.
Glenn Beck
Stand your ground when times get down Gotta face the dog and embrace the.
Stu Burguiere
Fire.
Glenn Beck
The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program. No, it really is. And we're so glad that you're here. Thank you so much for listening. So the, the ceasefire deal and the, the whole deal that, you know, oh, that was Donald Trump. That was. Donald Trump fell apart. The Israeli cabinet has delayed the vote on that Now. Now, I gave you some perspective on this in our number one, if you were there. Thank you very much. If you missed it, all you have to do is listen to the podcast today. This is something that I don't think Donald Trump was surprised by overnight. I don't think Israel is going. Nah, we don't want it. Without at least talking to President Trump. Donald Trump, because he is very clear there will be hell to be paid. Coming probably Wednesday if those. All those people are not out. It was a bad deal for Israel, which leads me to believe the reason why it was even struck was because of the threat from Donald Trump. But the people who made the deal, of course, was Biden and his administration, which they're not going to give Israel a good deal. Of course not. It would all be in. In favor of Hamas. Now, the president, he gave his farewell speech and, boy, wasn't it good last night. Did you. No, you didn't see it.
Stu Burguiere
Reportedly it was Glenn.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, reportedly it happened.
Stu Burguiere
It occurred.
Glenn Beck
But, you know, if, you know, if a tree falls in the forest and no one heard it, did it really happen? We're gonna go over because it was. It was incredible what he said last night. We'll go over that here in just a second. Standby. First. Let me Tell you about preborn, when you put your hand over your heart, what do you feel? Let's say beat, beep, beat beneath your hand. That's how you know you're alive. Okay? Expecting moms, when they go in for an ultrasound or they go in for an abortion, they've been taught to ignore the beating heart. Okay? But when they see an ultrasound of their unborn child, not just a glob of cells, but a beating heart and a brain and arms and legs, that changes them. Now, the abortion pill accounts for over 60% of all abortions, and it's available pretty much 24. 7. This is why the Ministry of Prediction is so important. They've got to get those who are going in and give them an ultrasound because that stops a lot of that. But also they're fighting on another front. Now. They need your help. For $28, that's the cost of a dinner, you can sponsor one ultrasound and introduce a mom to her baby for the very first time. And 100% of your donations going towards saving babies. So will you help? Just dial £250. Say the keyword baby. That's £250, keyword baby. Or donate securely@preborn.com Beck preborn.com Beck sponsored by Preborn. By the way, I'm speaking at their annual fundraiser in Florida on Saturday. I hope to see you there. All right, so Joe Biden. And I know this is all going to come as new news to you, Stu, because I'm not going to lie, it came to me as new news this morning when I. When I read it in the show prep. This is not something I would even care about out from this president. But I think it's important just to notice how he's leaving office. And there's a couple of things. One, have you ever seen a president that nobody gives a flying crap about more than this one?
Stu Burguiere
I don't think so.
Glenn Beck
I don't think so.
Stu Burguiere
I don't think. I mean, have I. No. Has it ever occurred in American history? I think is more of the question.
Glenn Beck
Right. It could be like, like, you know, John Tyler or Taylor. I don't even know.
Stu Burguiere
Tyler.
Glenn Beck
Tyler, Right.
Stu Burguiere
That was the one I didn't even realize existed.
Glenn Beck
Right.
Stu Burguiere
John Taylor, I think, is the basis for Duran Duran. John Tyler.
Glenn Beck
Okay.
Stu Burguiere
Former president.
Glenn Beck
Right. So former president. I care about what's happening in this administration just a little bit more than John Tyler.
Stu Burguiere
Or John Taylor.
Glenn Beck
Or John Taylor. Either, either. I mean, I care a little bit more about John. Yeah, I do, too. Because he had, I mean, they did.
Stu Burguiere
Have some great songs. He had some great songs, man. Just admit it.
Glenn Beck
So, I mean, I just don't care. I don't care. The only reason why I do care is because what is he doing today to destroy our country? Okay.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah. You know, we've been doing the series of Biden's parting shots.
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Stu Burguiere
On our show, Studios America, by the way, BLAZE tv. And there's a lot you could say he's not doing anything because you think he's incoherent and falling asleep on the.
Glenn Beck
Job, which is not doing anything.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah. It may very well be true, but it also doesn't matter. He is doing a lot to the country here as he walks out the door, but it does not seem like anyone seems to really care.
Glenn Beck
Like there was another, what, $500 billion forgiveness of loans yesterday?
Stu Burguiere
Not that much. No. How much was it he did 150,000 people and then another 200,000 people, I believe, over the past few days.
Glenn Beck
It's a lot of money and a lot of people.
Stu Burguiere
Yes.
Glenn Beck
And this one, he's saying. Cause the university scammed them. Oh, okay.
Stu Burguiere
So, yes, I think that's just. It's amazing. It's like, okay, if the universities scam them, you go through legal proceeding.
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Stu Burguiere
That's how they get their money back.
Glenn Beck
That's how you get your money.
Stu Burguiere
They don't get the money back just because we don't have to take that on as a country. And again, none of this is legal. None of this is constitutional. Most of this will be overturned after he's out of office. Most of these poor people who believe they no longer have these loans will wind up having these loans.
Glenn Beck
Right. But they're still going. They're still going. I mean, they're filing all kinds of suits in courts. And you're like, that's not going to stand under Trump. They're not going to pursue that. It's just. Okay, well, then stop it. Spend the time to stop it. That's what, that's what he's doing. He's just lighting little brush fires everywhere. Thank goodness Donald Trump is not California. He'll put them out quickly. I think now, now, the Biden gave a speech and I just rewrote it. I'm sorry. I rewrote the speech because.
Stu Burguiere
Okay.
Glenn Beck
You know, I said everything that he said, but I added a little bit of the truth. Okay, so let me give you what he said last night. I mean, first, I mean, do we have the, the Hail to the Chief or something that makes it sound official? Because it Was a very official. It was in the White House. He was sitting on. I'm not kidding. He was sitting on a pillow last night. Yeah. No, the real one. And just go ahead and so he's now a message from the President of the United States. My fellow Americans, folks. I'm serious. This is it. This is my last address as your president. No joke. I've been in public service for 50 years now, maybe more. I've seen a lot in my time, but I gotta tell you, still believe in America. But there's some things we need to talk about, things that really worry me. I'm not kidding. This is serious stuff. First of all, the oligarchy thing, yeah, it's bad, folks. We got billionaires and corporations running the shows right now, and it's dangerous. I mean, come on. We can't have people, billionaires. That think they can run everything. Like George Sort. Well, no. Okay, probably he deserves a medal. But other people like that, that vote differently than the way we want them to vote. That's just gotta stop. Gotta stop. Okay. He's a good guy mostly, you know, and Big tech. Don't even get me started, folks. Don't, don't. It's like my dad used to say when I was growing up in Scranton, you know, just an average scrappy kid hanging out with black people and minorities mainly. You know, my dad used to say to me, don't trust big Tech. He was way ahead of the game. Game way ahead. I loved my dad. I'm gonna cry, by the way, California. I can relate because I've had a kitchen fire once. Anyway, back to big tech. Don't even get me started. We had to work with them, you know. You know, to protect democracy. That's why we had an open line to Facebook and Twitter. Some people called it censorship. That's malarkey, okay? It was just. What's the word? Guardrails. Yeah, guardrails. For democracy. That's what that was. And misinformation, folks. I'm serious. It's everywhere. No joke. Americans are buried in misinformation. But let me be clear. We weren't part of that. Okay, maybe a little bit, but not very much. I mean, not that you know of. It's coming out. Okay, well, all right, maybe a little. I mean, we did say Hunter's laptop was fake. Turns out, wasn't. That was a surprise. No joke, people. I had no idea. You know, maybe we got a few things wrong about COVID you know, like the origins, the lockdowns, the vaccines, you know, but Come on. Come on, folks, I'm serious. It was confusing. You try keeping it straight. Come on. Look, I know some of you are mad about my family making a few bucks overseas. But, folks, let me tell you, that's how business get done sometimes, you know? What are you going to do? My son, Hunter. Good kid, smart as whip. Oh, my gosh, what a talented painter he is. Did you hear? $500 million of his paintings have been lost in the fire. But a good thing we had insurance on all of that art. You know, he got some deals, you know, China, Ukraine, whatever. But it was all above board. I mean, I'm serious, folks. It's fine. Totally legit. And here's the thing about AI it's scary. Artificial intelligence, that's what they call it. I don't trust it. One day you're talking to your phone, the next thing you know, it's running your life. That's why I wanted Congress to ban stock trading for government employees. No joke. No joke. You can't have senators buying stocks when they know stuff about stocks. It's just wrong, folks. Never. I mean, not recently. I've not recently benefited from stock trading. No joke. My family made it the old fashioned way, through bribery, okay? That's what we did. All right? And that's America. Let me tell you about America and unity, folks. We need unity now more than ever. But you know what's stopping us? And I mean it. People who don't listen, they spread lies. They stir up division. Some of them even vote for the other guy. And I'm not kidding. These people are dangerous, folks. I'm not kidding. Makes me so mad I could. I don't know. You know the rest. Now, I know I've made some mistakes. Nobody's perfect. I mean, I'm pretty damn close. But come on, folks, give me a break. I'm just doing what's right, you know? You got to trust me on this. In closing, I want to remind you of the Statue of Liberty. That lady's been swaying in the wind for years, but she never falls. Just like America. She might lean a little to the right or to the left, but she stays upright. No joke. It's a miracle. They wouldn't let me change that torch to an ice cream cone, which I think would have been great, you know, in her feet. We should have given her some socks or something, because her feet's got to be cold. They're made out of metal, you know. Seriously. Seriously, folks, I'm not joking. What's her hair smell like? So now it's your turn to stand guard. Keep the faith, protect democracy. And remember, I love the little children. Hey, God loves the little children. He keeps them in the palm of his hand. I've got my palm of my hand on little children. It's good, folks. Come on. I'm being serious. It's real. I love it. I'm serious. God bless you. And God bless something else. I don't remember what it was. So that is the summary of his speech last night. And then he. Then he walked off into the. The sunset with the. They're pretty close. He had the seniors come in, you know, from his senior center and ride up. It was pretty good. Ow. That one hurt there. But hey, he was trying. No, folks, seriously, they're trying their best. They're seniors. And look at them go. Look at them go.
Stu Burguiere
The Joe Biden players, ladies and gentlemen.
Glenn Beck
And we're going to miss. Yeah, we're going to miss them. We really are. We really are. You know, I was thinking, I really don't care except for the destruction. And I think Democrats kind of have it in the exact right place because they don't care about the destruction. I don't think, you know, at least the ones in Washington, and they're not paying attention to him at all. They do not care what he's doing. They don't care. Okay, isn't this exactly the way we should all feel about our president all the time? Him without the fear of, good God, what is he doing behind the scenes without that fear? He should not have that big of an impact, nor should all those clowns in Washington. You know what I'd like to do? I'd like to go back to doing comedy. Like, remember, Stu, in The old days, 25 years ago, before 9, 11, we were doing comedy. Wouldn't that be nice? That would be nice. Love to do that. But. But we suddenly had to care because these people are completely out of their mind and out of control. The way the Democrats care about Joe Biden right now is the way we should care about every president. Okay? They should have such little power. Not. I'm not joking, folks. I'm not being serious. Such little power. We don't care. Yeah. Yeah. Now let's go have some ice cream.
Stu Burguiere
I mean, that's, you know, what the founders kind of wanted, right?
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Stu Burguiere
They wanted a country in. In which you wouldn't. You didn't have to think about the king all the time.
Glenn Beck
And you would say, shut up. Shut up a. You. That's what I think.
Stu Burguiere
Our founders, our Italian Italian founders.
Glenn Beck
Yeah. Shut up a you.
Stu Burguiere
Shut up a you.
Glenn Beck
Shut up a you.
Stu Burguiere
Because I, again, it's easy to think about it now as someone, someone you probably like is coming into office. Right. So you might, you know, like the focus on him, but.
Glenn Beck
Well, I like the focus on him because he's going to fix it.
Stu Burguiere
He's going to undo a lot of the things that Biden.
Glenn Beck
And then we need to. We need to care enough to get those things out of an executive order and, I don't know, passed his laws. Otherwise, four years from now, we could have somebody, even Karl Marx, they might bring back from the dead and they'd be like, Karl Marx, you know, his first time around didn't go well. But I'm serious, folks, he's great now. And look at that beard. I mean, that's a great beard, especially for being dead for so long. And they could bring him back and we'd be facing again. He'd be like, I'm going to do a few executive orders, but what's the problem? I, you know, no, we need to pay attention. So they actually pass these things as bills.
Stu Burguiere
Interesting thing, development on that front. The Republicans are trying to talk Trump out of doing some of these executive orders when he first starts because of basically a technicality that comes with this law that they want to pass this reconciliation bill. This is coming up. This is their one big bill. Right. And to do that, they can pass this bill with only 50 senators if it's cutting the deficit, essentially. And so the. What some of these executive orders that Trump wants to do will help that. Right.
Glenn Beck
But they need to have them in.
Stu Burguiere
The bill to make sure the scoring is right so they can pass it.
Glenn Beck
I got to tell you, I think there's more to cut than everybody thinks.
Stu Burguiere
You know what I mean? I'm with you.
Glenn Beck
You know, oh, gee, we've got to. We've got to reduce the deficit and you're going to cut a lot of places. I think you can find more.
Stu Burguiere
I think you can.
Glenn Beck
I think you can.
Stu Burguiere
I mean, again, if you're gonna do it anyway, I prefer. Prefer like if it's a good measure.
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Stu Burguiere
And it's going to improve the budget situation. I would rather have it in the reconciliation bill than as an executive order for the same reasons you're talking about.
Glenn Beck
So I would like to not give away the stuff that we could get also through executive order.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah. You know, like, if you can get it through the law, get it through the law, get it through the bill, get it that way. If you if it's not available there, that.
Glenn Beck
Yeah. Then take it out.
Stu Burguiere
Then you go with these.
Glenn Beck
Because there's a law that can be cut. I mean, gee, I don't know, we're a few hundred billion dollars away from, you know, being able to save, you know, on the deficit and pass this bill. I don't know, Department of Education. Where are the keys?
Stu Burguiere
You can't do that by executive order though.
Glenn Beck
No, no, I'm saying Congress. Yeah. I'm saying, oh, we can't do it in the bill because we, you know, it's, we can't pass it with just 50 because there's not enough. Where are the keys to, you know, the Department of Education? But you know, I'd just like to see them right now. Let's put them in the pile. All right, back in just a second. Let me tell you about Patriot Mobile. The convenience of the modern American life sometimes complicates our efforts to maintain our values. For instance, not long ago when you wanted coverage, I mean when I was a kid, we had Ma Bell. Do you remember my Bell?
Stu Burguiere
I mean, I know of it, yeah.
Glenn Beck
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Stu Burguiere
I didn't care about it.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, you didn't. You didn't seem like all that intrigued by, you know, the drones, space alien.
Stu Burguiere
I mean, interdimensional. I'm not.
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Stu Burguiere
I mean, I'm just not. It's not my thing. I'm not saying that other people aren't a lot. In fact, a lot of people are.
Glenn Beck
Yeah. Who is not interested in possibly extraterrestrial life or interdimensional beings. Three times government officials have testified on interdimensional beings.
Stu Burguiere
I assume this is a rhetorical question because when you say, who isn't? We just confirmed that I wasn't. You know, I'm just. How is it possible? It's not my thing. I don't. I mean, first of all, I don't think it's interdimensional being.
Glenn Beck
I think there's Michael Shellenberger. I know.
Stu Burguiere
Well, I love Michael. I do, too, Necessarily. I don't know that he believes that either, but he's, he's.
Glenn Beck
He's like, I'm trying to figure it out. That's the most likely that I see.
Stu Burguiere
I will. I will disagree with Michael if he believes that. I don't think it's the most likely. I think. I don't know. I mean, I kind of had felt like the whole story had faded away, honestly.
Glenn Beck
No, there's.
Stu Burguiere
Talking about it a lot.
Glenn Beck
In December, he told me that there was a story that they asked him to work on. And he said, I saw the raw stuff. And he said it was. This is Glenn Beck. Mind blowing, mind blowing. He said, it's a game changer.
Stu Burguiere
Can't wait to see it.
Glenn Beck
Yeah. Supposed to come out today or tomorrow. Cozy earth. There's something about coming to the end of the day, leaving all the cares of the world at your doorstep, walking into the comfort of the home. Do you have comfy, comfy clothes? Because I walk in, I can't. I mean, it could be 3:00 in the afternoon and I'm like, like, where are my pajamas?
Stu Burguiere
Yep, 100.
Glenn Beck
I mean, I just want comfy clothes all the time. They make those comfy clothes and then they make the best bedding and pajamas and bath products. I mean, the towels are like. You're drying off with cashmere. It is weird. It is so nice. This is the kind of stuff that you would only find, you know, at the very, very, very, very best hotels. I mean like the six star kind of hotels. And usually this kind of stuff is not affordable to the average person. This is, you can wrap yourself in luxury with Cozy Earth because they're giving a 40% discount if you use the promo code. Beck, check this out. I mean they'll give you a hundred night trial. The like the sheets come with a 10 year warranty. Try it. Cozyearth.com cozyearth.com Beck get 40% off.
Stu Burguiere
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Glenn Beck
I tried to sell Stew on this story. I just can't get him.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah, I mean, look, I, it's just one of those things. First of all, you know, I keep thinking if it's some other explanation other than the basic earthly types of explanations, what am I going to do about it? I don't know. I mean if, okay, but wait, I mean I watched Independence Day. What was I going to do with that laser? I can stand up on it, I can stand under it and I can yell at it, but there's not much I can do. It's coming, it's coming.
Glenn Beck
Right? So I find this fascinating for. In all categories really. If it is earthly, then somebody, us, China, whatever, we have jumped, leaped ahead, way ahead. These things are pulling 700 GS.
Stu Burguiere
What is that? I mean you say that and have you seen video of it?
Glenn Beck
Yes. They can tell by the speed and how it just starts and stops how many G's it would take.
Stu Burguiere
Everything I've seen on this looks fake.
Glenn Beck
I've seen. Have you seen the Tic Tac video?
Stu Burguiere
I think so, yeah.
Glenn Beck
I mean that one's really credible. And that's.
Stu Burguiere
We had some guests on three different.
Glenn Beck
That'S three different military sites tracking the same thing. So they had a triangle one where.
Stu Burguiere
They had like the circles going around it.
Glenn Beck
No, no, no, no.
Stu Burguiere
Like that looked completely fake to me the entire time.
Glenn Beck
No, no, no.
Stu Burguiere
And people took it serious.
Glenn Beck
This is the one that has, there's just one, it's shaped like a Tic Tac and the pilots are talking about it and it's, it's all of a sudden stopping and then just gone and then under the water and then up above the water. And they could track it just barely. But you know, 700, you pass out. The human body cannot take. You pass out at about 10 or 11g.
Stu Burguiere
I will tell you. I used to love roller coasters back in the day. Like, my favorite thing when I was a kid went. Took the kids to Six Flags here. And we went on the biggest roller coaster they have. I literally almost passed out, like, three times on it. I mean, it was not. It's like, probably one G or something. I mean, it's fast. It's a pretty big roller coaster. It goes fast, but I couldn't believe it. I think it's just me getting old. I was, like, going around these tight turns. I used to love them. I could feel myself drifting to sleep. I thought I was gonna die in.
Glenn Beck
The middle of this thing.
Stu Burguiere
And the kids are like, that was so much. And I'm like, yeah, Daddy almost died.
Glenn Beck
Let's do it again. Daddy, could you write it all day? Yeah. I mean, 700 GS. There's nothing that could take that, right?
Stu Burguiere
But I mean, so if it is.
Glenn Beck
Us or anybody on Earth, we have. We've crossed a barrier into something entirely different.
Stu Burguiere
What's the skeptical case on this video? There's gotta be. When there always is, that. It's perception. The video doesn't.
Glenn Beck
No, the skepticism is, I think, the best skepticism. On about a hundred of these videos. Okay. Or a hundred of these. A hundred of these actual sightings. Not everything that was over in the skies of New Jersey. I think there were about 5,000. They have 5,000 reports recorded, and there's 100 that they cannot explain.
Stu Burguiere
Okay, so 4,900. They can.
Glenn Beck
They just. Yeah, they just said, that's this.
Stu Burguiere
You know, it's a plane, it's a drone, it's a weather thing, whatever.
Glenn Beck
There's a hundred of them they cannot explain. And those are the ones that move at incredible speeds, seem to defy all physics. Okay? If that is Earth, somebody's way ahead. And the stuff that we can now do is going to blow your mind, because if they have this technology, what is the alloy that is holding that thing together? What is the propulsion system? How can we use that propulsion system? How can you keep a human body from experiencing 700 GS if we have that technology? We're going to Mars quickly. Okay? We're. We're. We're able to do things we've never ever been able to do. Do you could have transportation with that technology that could take you from New York to China in, what, 10 minutes? I mean, the ramifications, if this is. If this is Earth technology are phenomenal. Now, the other thing that is interesting is they're talking about. They're not talking about necessarily space aliens, right? Okay. They're saying non human. Non human individuals or something like that. And the reason why they're saying it that way, they're not calling them extraterrestrials, is they think that this might be something that quantum physics is allowing to happen, but not from us. You know, we've always speculated, movies and things like that always speculated that, you know, you'll come to a place to where there's a turning point, okay? And they're gonna, you saw this in Star Trek and everything else. They're about to discover this. We want to be there. So when they discover this, it's time for them to know, you know what I mean? And here we are on the verge of. I mean, we're opening the quantum world. We've opened it already, but we're just peeking at it right now. And now these interdimensional, which is how quantum physics kind of works, is interdimensional. I don't know. Being is kind of being projected into our world. I mean, that has ramifications spiritually, if it's one way, but if it's a quantum physics thing, I mean, I read a paper last night, go down Stu. You start going down a rabbit hole. Just stop.
Stu Burguiere
I have enough rabbit holes. I don't need any more rabbit holes in my life.
Glenn Beck
It's fascinating. It's fascinating.
Stu Burguiere
You know, it is to some people. It doesn't have to be fascinating to everybody. I rant about things all the time off the air that you don't care about. About.
Glenn Beck
Because it's not fascinating. Yeah. Because you don't care about it. Yeah.
Stu Burguiere
These are just.
Glenn Beck
It's just science. That is so.
Stu Burguiere
A lot of the stuff I rant about is science. You're like, oh, God, I can see your eyes glazing over as I start speaking.
Glenn Beck
And like, what? Give me a science thing I wasn't interested in.
Stu Burguiere
I mean, I was trying to sell you on the, on the red number three stuff the other day.
Glenn Beck
You're like, oh, my gosh, the red number three.
Stu Burguiere
You look like Homer Simpson when a donut passes by.
Glenn Beck
Exactly, right. Red number number three diet. Who cares?
Stu Burguiere
Right, Exactly. You don't care. I think it's interesting.
Glenn Beck
You don't get. Sell it to me.
Stu Burguiere
No, I'm not going to. There's no reason to me. I mean, it's already been banned.
Glenn Beck
I know. So sell it to me. Why was that so interesting?
Stu Burguiere
I think it was fascinating because they did it before RFK Jr.
Glenn Beck
Even got the.
Stu Burguiere
Barely.
Glenn Beck
We.
Stu Burguiere
I think that this, the, the evidence on it is interesting, which I Again, I'm going to piss everybody off in the audience. But like, you know, red number three, like, like there's no evidence whatsoever it causes cancer in humans. Does anyone interested in that piece of information now? One little bit? It causes it in rats at massive doses. Are we rats? We keep saying there's a difference between men and women. We're very convinced of that. Is there a difference between humans and rats? I don't know. I think there is.
Glenn Beck
All right, all right, so hang on. So here's how you can get me.
Stu Burguiere
I also don't care if they number.
Glenn Beck
Three really at all. Here's how you can get me interested in this.
Stu Burguiere
Yes.
Glenn Beck
Okay. Something's going on with the human body. Autism is one thing.
Stu Burguiere
Right. They're not. There's no tie red number three to autism.
Glenn Beck
No, no, no, I know that. Right.
Stu Burguiere
But that's not even alleged.
Glenn Beck
You get me into the food thing by talking to me about why are peanut allergies through the roof. What is autism all about? What is causing that? I not. I don't have an answer.
Stu Burguiere
Right.
Glenn Beck
But I'm fascinated by those conversations.
Stu Burguiere
Well, we have these things off, off the air all the time mostly where you try to convince me of something you think is important. You try to get me interested and I try to get you interested in stuff that I think is important. That's part of what goes on. That's the show off the show. Right. That show exists here.
Glenn Beck
I know. I just wanted show to the people that you are just. I mean, I don't just, you know.
Stu Burguiere
When it comes to space aliens, I'm just like.
Glenn Beck
I'm not saying they're space aliens. I don't know what they are, but it's fascinating. Part of it is that too.
Stu Burguiere
Like we don't know anything. I mean, I told you this.
Glenn Beck
Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait. There's a new theory. There's a theory about. And there's a documentary on people with. What were we just talking about? The.
Stu Burguiere
That's why I never get interested in anything he says. Cuz he can't even remember what he.
Michael Shellenberger
Was just talking about.
Glenn Beck
Autism. Okay. So there's this documentary on autism that now they're showing that some kids who have autism, and I'd hate to put it this way, but there's a simple way to. It can read the minds of their families. Family. Okay. They know instinctively what they're going to say.
Stu Burguiere
Wow.
Glenn Beck
All right, what's that about? Which leads me to a story I read 10 years ago. An opinion from a scientist who said that he thought autism was actually the humankind mutating or. Or evolving for the next stage of humanity, that the way information is delivered so quickly and everything else, that it needs kind of almost an autistic mind to understand it and to slow things down and to be able to communicate in a different way. I don't know the answer of what autism is, but I think those are backed with some. Some science. I think it's fascinating.
Stu Burguiere
All those conversations are interesting, and your conversations are interesting as well. As I said to you off the air there, we're always talking to people around us who are always asking us news questions because that's what we do. They know what we do, so they're asking these questions. One of the most common questions outside of election results that I get asked about lately have been the drones in New Jersey. People want to know what they are, and I don't have a strong take on it. What I've seen, I'm not at all convinced.
Glenn Beck
Did you see the scene with Donald Trump at Mar A Lago meeting with all the GOP governor governors? Yeah. And when. When he said, don't take it from me, ask the governors. And they went around the table and they were all like, no, they're over our nuclear power plants.
Stu Burguiere
Right.
Glenn Beck
No one can give us an idea of what they are. This is. This is out of control.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
Right. So we know something important is happening. Yeah. And maybe it's just our government out of control, but even that has. Has massive ramifications.
Stu Burguiere
I think one of the things at the core of this is just that you like things where there's no answer more than I do. Like, you like, oh, I think we're.
Glenn Beck
On the verge of answer. I think we're on the verge of answer.
Stu Burguiere
You don't have.
Glenn Beck
Right.
Stu Burguiere
But you don't have it. As you said. As you said, Michael Shellenberger said, everyone's like, I don't know, but it could be this. And that's the part like, I'm like, okay, show me. I'm Missouri on this. This. Show me. Prove it. Give me the evidence. I. I don't know. I.
Glenn Beck
This is honestly why we're good partners. But he drives me out of my mind sometimes.
Stu Burguiere
I mean, we can wildly speculate which you like doing.
Glenn Beck
Frankly, I just like tying dots about it. I like tying dots together. Go. Wait a minute. That one doesn't make sense over there. That makes sense over here. Right.
Stu Burguiere
And I do, too, but I like doing it in a different way. Like, I like looking at some very boring nerdy document.
Glenn Beck
A very nerdy, nerdy, boring document. Today you were at no interest in it. I was like, this is nerd city.
Stu Burguiere
But it was all weird speculation stuff. It was all like, oh well, this interdimensional being.
Glenn Beck
You're not interested in quantum theory.
Stu Burguiere
You know, you've dragged me along on that for years. Frankly, it's so impossible to understand. And only after hearing you tell me about it 9000 times do I have any understanding of it. And even then it's still so theoretical.
Glenn Beck
Okay, all right, all right, okay, all right. Let me give you a theoretical. Don't answer yet. I want to know. Theoretically, anything could happen on Monday at inauguration. Anything. Anything.
Stu Burguiere
Yes.
Glenn Beck
Space aliens could suck him up into space. Nuclear, Nuclear bomb dropped. They could assassinate somebody could just try to assassinate him again.
Stu Burguiere
All of those sorts of terrible outcomes.
Glenn Beck
All theory.
Stu Burguiere
Yes.
Glenn Beck
My question to you is now that you know you're going to Washington, are you interested in any of those theories?
Stu Burguiere
My understanding is we're broadcasting from Virginia.
Glenn Beck
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Stu Burguiere
What I said was, I think I care a little less about them. It's not like I would never be interested in a hypothetical. We talk about them all the time. But like, those things, I can see your brain and your eyes light up when someone's like, here's some crazy possibility that has a 1/10 of a percent chance of being true. You're like, oh, my God.
Glenn Beck
No, I think this has a good chance of being true. What that truth ends up being, I don't know. Know. But something game. No, something game changing.
Stu Burguiere
Chance.
Glenn Beck
Something game changing is coming. I don't know what it's going to end up being, but it's game changing.
Stu Burguiere
That's almost certainly true.
Glenn Beck
But why?
Stu Burguiere
Almost certainly.
Glenn Beck
Why do you even care? Why is that? Why do I care what? That he doesn't like what you like? That he's not involved? Because everyone must like what it knows. Because. Because he has a different kind of mind than I do. I have a big picture mind. Mind.
Stu Burguiere
He has the smart one.
Glenn Beck
Get oh for a nuke on Monday. I am. I'm praying for the new. I know, and I know we're both gonna be there, but. But he has a. He has the kind of mind that gets into the details and the math and, and the science of all of it. And if you were just. Just into that a little bit more, you would be. Yeah, it would be fascinating just to have a conversation with you.
Stu Burguiere
It's hard to care about everything, Glenn. It's hard. Oh, and I do think that, you know, at times you just have to. I, I know the audience who cares a lot about this story. It's just not my main thing. Like, I'm interested in what you're saying. I just, I don't.
Glenn Beck
Like, you're overwhelmed with everything that's going on.
Stu Burguiere
There's a lot.
Glenn Beck
There's way too many things. You're approaching the singularity. Everything is huge and happening, and you're. You can't pay attention. All of it.
Stu Burguiere
Maybe I could be assisted by an AI implant in my brain, you know? That's all I'm saying.
Glenn Beck
We'll see you tomorrow. This is Glenn. Becky.
Podcast Title: The Glenn Beck Program
Episode Title: Biden's Farewell Address, Rewritten By Glenn Beck
Guests: Jonathan Pageau & Gordon Chang
Release Date: January 16, 2025
In this compelling episode of The Glenn Beck Program, host Glenn Beck delves into a multifaceted discussion surrounding President Biden's farewell address, the enigmatic phenomenon of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs), and the escalating strategic tensions with China. Featuring insightful conversations with icon carver and symbolist Jonathan Pageau, alongside renowned China expert Gordon Chang, Beck provides listeners with a thorough analysis of contemporary American socio-political landscapes and international concerns.
The episode kicks off with Glenn Beck addressing his audience with fervor, emphasizing his staunch support for the Second Amendment while advocating for non-lethal conflict resolution in most situations. Beck introduces the themes of preparedness and national transformation, setting the stage for the day's intense discussions.
Beck opens the floor by referencing President Biden's farewell address, remarking on its departure from reality with a quip, “That came from a parallel universe” (Release Date: 1/16/25). He expresses skepticism about the administration's handling of emerging threats and foreshadows a “fundamental transformation” of the United States with Donald Trump's impending presidency.
[05:13] Glenn Beck:
“So Jonathan Pageau is with us. Yes, he's French, but he's French Canadian, so it lessens the blow a little bit...”
Jonathan Pageau, an icon carver and symbolist, engages in a thought-provoking dialogue about the symbolic significance of UAPs and extraterrestrial phenomena. Pageau emphasizes the importance of understanding these phenomena beyond their physical manifestations, likening them to mythical monsters that challenge human perception and spirituality.
Notable Quote:
[10:07] Jonathan Pageau:
“That is the role that a lot of these stories are playing... Once we figure out what they are, then they won't be that. They won't be alien anymore, they won't be unidentified, and we'll be able to know how to deal with them.”
Glenn Beck introduces Gordon Chang, a China expert, to discuss the precarious situation surrounding the Panama Canal and China's broader strategic maneuvers. Chang warns of China's potential to disrupt critical infrastructure, highlighting scenarios where China could sabotage the Panama Canal to hinder U.S. naval movements, thereby igniting global conflict.
Notable Quotes:
[52:52] Gordon Chang:
“They could take that thing quickly if they wanted to... What do we do about it? I don't know. How much of a threat is it?”
[54:07] Chang:
“Now, we have to convince Panama that it is in their interest to do that... We have American businesses who are willing to take it over.”
The discussion shifts to recent drone incursions in U.S. airspace, with both Chang and guest Michael Shellenberger addressing the possibility of these drones being of Chinese origin or indicative of interdimensional entities. Beck voices skepticism over the government's explanations, suggesting that the lack of concrete evidence points towards advanced foreign technologies or unprecedented phenomena.
Notable Quote:
[65:09] Glenn Beck:
“...some people think this is China warning the Americans that we're going to take Taiwan or whatever it is and don't mess with us. But it almost defies logic that they would be that far ahead of the United States.”
In a bold and humorous segment, Glenn Beck presents a rewritten version of President Biden's farewell address, infusing it with satirical elements that highlight perceived administration shortcomings. This mock address touches on themes like the oligarchy, misinformation, and calls for unity, all delivered with Beck’s characteristic wit and critical tone.
Notable Quote:
[85:08] Jonathan Pageau:
“Hide Feel the dark on every side.”
Beck's parody serves as a critique of the current political climate, emphasizing his dissatisfaction with Biden's policies and leadership style.
As the episode concludes, Beck reiterates the pressing nature of the topics discussed—UAPs, China's strategic actions, and the implications of Biden's exit. He underscores the necessity for American vigilance and preparedness in the face of emerging global threats, all while maintaining his advocacy for constitutional rights and national sovereignty.
Closing Remark:
[123:36] Stuart Burguiere:
“That is almost certainly true.”
UAPs and Symbolism: Jonathan Pageau elucidates the deeper symbolic meanings behind UAPs, suggesting they serve as modern-day myths that challenge traditional spirituality and meaning structures.
China's Strategic Vulnerabilities: Gordon Chang highlights the Panama Canal's critical role and China's potential to disrupt it, emphasizing the need for American strategic responses to avert global conflict.
Political Critique: Through a satirical reenactment of Biden's farewell address, Beck criticizes the current administration's policies, particularly regarding misinformation and the influence of the oligarchy.
Drones and National Security: The discussion raises concerns about unidentified drones in U.S. airspace, debating their origins and the implications for national security, with a focus on possible Chinese involvement or unprecedented technological phenomena.
This episode of The Glenn Beck Program offers a rich tapestry of discussions that intertwine national security, symbolism, and political critique. With expert guests providing depth to the conversation, listeners are encouraged to reflect on the multifaceted challenges facing America today and the imperative for informed and proactive responses.