The Glenn Beck Program
Episode: Checkmate? The Hidden Genius of Trump's ICE Pullback
Date: January 27, 2026
Host: Glenn Beck
Guest: DataRepublican
Producer/Co-host: Stu Brigham
Episode Overview
This episode centers on two intertwined themes:
- Exposing the complex, coordinated activist networks fueling unrest in Minnesota, with a particular focus on anti-ICE actions, their foreign ties, and their revolutionary ideology.
- A nuanced analysis of President Trump’s recent ICE policy shift in Minnesota, exploring whether this move is a capitulation or a strategic, “Art of the Deal”-style masterstroke, with Glenn Beck urging listeners to view it through a counterinsurgency and political optics lens.
The episode also features an in-depth interview with data journalist and activist “DataRepublican,” who provides further investigative insights into the funding and organization behind the Minnesota protests. The conversation culminates in a broader philosophical discussion about how everyday Americans might counter societal division—drawing inspiration from the nonviolent resistance of Martin Luther King Jr. and Gandhi.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Unmasking the Network Behind Minnesota's Unrest
- Glenn introduces the theme: Unrest in Minnesota is not spontaneous protest but part of an “insurgency”—a revolutionary movement seeking not reform but abolition, including the United States as currently constituted.
- “This is not a protest. This is an insurgency. ...It's about a movement that doesn't believe that America even has a right to exist.” (09:15)
- Key exposés from partners and independent journalism:
- The Sunrise Movement, other leftist groups, and direct funding from big-figure donors like Soros’ Tides Foundation.
- Minnesota Immigrant Rights Action Committee (MIRAC): Central to anti-ICE organizing, training activists for “immigration raid response,” with a radical abolitionist ideology (“no borders, no deportation, no enforcement, and the abolition of the United States as it is presently constituted”).
- Glenn cites evidence of collective belief in Turtle Island “liberation,” solidarity with anti-Israel and anti-American action worldwide, and open support for violence and foreign adversaries (e.g., Iran, Cuba, Russia, China).
- Rhetoric and tactics:
- MIRAC and allies use coded but explicit language borrowed from geopolitical liberation movements, equating ICE with “occupying militaries.”
- “They said, from Turtle Island to Palestine, occupation is a crime.” (12:35)
- Materials and training encourage rapid “resistance,” adopt violent slogans (“bash the fash”), celebrate militant organization, form human chains to impede federal officers, reject distinction between protest and destruction.
- MIRAC and allies use coded but explicit language borrowed from geopolitical liberation movements, equating ICE with “occupying militaries.”
2. How Protesters Are “Boiled” and Used
- Organizers vs. everyday protesters: The majority of demonstrators don’t subscribe to revolutionary aims, but serve as cover or “camouflage” for those advancing radical, abolitionist objectives.
- “Most protesters don't wake up believing in Turtle Island ...But the people who are organizing you do believe those things.” (23:05)
- Participation in “community defense” becomes an ideological “on ramp”—language and beliefs escalate as protest engagement deepens, capturing unwitting participants.
3. Trump's ICE Policy Move—Cave or Checkmate?
- Public reactions: Many on the right, including Glenn at first, saw Trump’s de-escalation (narrowing ICE enforcement focus, removing a “lightning rod” Border Patrol commander) as surrender.
- “When I first saw this story... I thought, is he waving the white flag? What is he doing?” (31:11)
- Strategic reframing analysis: Glenn argues this is not retreat but reframing:
- By limiting ICE to targeting criminal illegals in custody (not street roundups), political heat and optics are reduced and the onus shifts to blue state/local leaders:
- Cooperate and quietly hand over violent criminals (Trump wins quietly)
- Refuse and refuse to remove rapists/murderers—now explicit, public, and politically indefensible (Trump wins loudly)
- “If Minnesota complies, Trump wins quietly. If Minnesota refuses, Trump wins loudly. ...That's not blinking. That's checkmate positioning.” (38:44)
- Removal of the controversial Border Patrol agent makes it harder for media/Senate Democrats to claim narrative of federal overreach; reassigning Tom Homan as lead signals no softening.
- By limiting ICE to targeting criminal illegals in custody (not street roundups), political heat and optics are reduced and the onus shifts to blue state/local leaders:
- “Never die on a hill someone else chose ...only die on the hill you choose.” (34:51)
- Goals: Dissolve the staged optics crisis, starve activists of viral confrontations, re-align public attention on crime and cooperation.
4. Breaking the “Spell”—Nonviolent, Third Road Resistance
- Glenn’s philosophical reflection:
- The ideological “spell” dividing Americans cannot be countered with more force or anger—doing so would validate the activists’ escalation strategy and further divide the nation.
- Draws on MLK and Gandhi’s legacy: the only way to disrupt the cycle is to insert a visible, disciplined, nonviolent third presence:
- Not “angrier or more righteous, but higher” (56:00)
- “What if there were men and women who would step forward not to confront, not to shout, not to accuse, just to stand? ...bearing their own bodies as witnesses to a simple truth: that no worker ...should ever have to fear for their life in doing their job.” (57:20)
- This mediation “breaks the spell” by exposing who the true aggressors are; nonviolent resistance forces public reflection and can move the silent majority.
- “The only answer is we have to reconcile with people who are under this spell … this is saving Western civilization … you must demonstrate love for those who hate you.” (65:10)
- Not “angrier or more righteous, but higher” (56:00)
5. Interview with DataRepublican – The Investigation Deepens
(92:30+)
Who is DataRepublican?
- Data-driven activist, deaf and mute (interviewed via interpreter), known for investigative reporting on election data and activist funding.
Revelations
- Exposes the "Tending the Soil" network:
- Foreign influence—direct involvement of a Canadian unionist (Donny Soppotiuk) in funding Minnesota protests via the Chuffed platform (a far-left, low-processing fee fundraising platform).
- Vast, leaderless network smuggling money to activists without transparency—“no processing, no way to follow it.”
- Signal chats and real-time surveillance:
- Activists use tools like “Sign Up Genius” and encrypted “Signal” chats to coordinate.
- Evidence of activists obtaining car license plate info from the state in real time—a likely criminal misuse of sensitive government systems.
- Several high-level Minnesota Democrats connected or present in these activist chat channels.
- Government response and network scale:
- Data handed to authorities; ongoing investigations but difficult to target groups piecemeal due to the interwoven network structure.
- “It’s huge. ...Almost every institution is captured by it.” (101:40)
- Solution is in the works, to be presented publicly in two weeks (at Old State Saloon, broadcast on X), with a future follow-up promised.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
(Quotes followed by attribution and timestamp)
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“This is not a protest. This is an insurgency. ...It's about a movement that doesn't believe that America even has a right to exist.”
– Glenn Beck (09:15) -
“They're not about seeking reform. ...They are seeking abolition. Abolition of borders, any deportation, no enforcement in the US, and the abolition of the United States as it is presently constituted.”
– Glenn Beck (11:10) -
“When organization says North America is occupied territory, ...calls for ‘liberation’ from Minnesota to Palestine, ...that’s not activism.”
– Glenn Beck (22:41) -
“Most protesters don't wake up believing in Turtle Island ...But the people who are organizing you do believe those things.”
– Glenn Beck (23:10) -
“If Minnesota complies, Trump wins quietly. If Minnesota refuses, Trump wins loudly. ...That's not blinking. That's checkmate positioning.”
– Glenn Beck (38:44) -
On activists and optics:
- “Never die on a hill someone else chose ...only die on the hill you choose.”
– Glenn Beck (34:51)
- “Never die on a hill someone else chose ...only die on the hill you choose.”
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On nonviolence:
- “What if there were men and women who would step forward not to confront, not to shout, not to accuse, just to stand? ...bearing their own bodies as witnesses to a simple truth: that no worker ...should ever have to fear for their life in doing their job.”
– Glenn Beck (57:20)
- “What if there were men and women who would step forward not to confront, not to shout, not to accuse, just to stand? ...bearing their own bodies as witnesses to a simple truth: that no worker ...should ever have to fear for their life in doing their job.”
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“The only answer is we have to reconcile with people who are under this spell … this is saving Western civilization … you must demonstrate love for those who hate you.”
– Glenn Beck (65:10) -
“It’s huge. ...Almost every institution is captured by it.”
– DataRepublican (101:40) -
On uncovering foreign influence:
- “That man Donnie ...the first person who donated ...he’s controlling the finance for these protesters ...it’s proof that outside nations have been influencing these ...organizations.”
– DataRepublican (95:56)
- “That man Donnie ...the first person who donated ...he’s controlling the finance for these protesters ...it’s proof that outside nations have been influencing these ...organizations.”
Key Timestamps
- 09:15: Glenn sets up the episode’s main theme: exposure of revolutionary networks in Minnesota.
- 14:56 – 24:30: MIRAC’s ideology, ties to violent/foreign actors, and techniques are exposed.
- 23:05: Discussion of how moderate protesters are used as cover.
- 31:11 – 40:00: Glenn’s ICE pullback analysis, relaunches Trump’s move as strategic reframing.
- 56:00 – 66:00: Philosophical turn—breaking the spell via nonviolent, “third presence” resistance.
- 92:30 – 105:00: DataRepublican interview: funding channels, foreign influence, state data misuse, government investigation.
Tone and Style
- Candid, urgent, and analytical, blending Glenn's signature storytelling with moments of levity (banter with Stu), righteous outrage, and sincere appeals for reasoned, compassionate action.
- Language is direct yet often reflective, appealing to audience’s sense of participation in a wider movement.
Conclusion
This episode combines data-driven investigation, urgent warnings about coordinated anti-American activism, and strategic analysis of current political maneuvering. It calls on listeners to recognize sophisticated subversion and respond—not with equal fury, but with a disciplined, higher moral courage inspired by history’s greatest movements for nonviolent change. Listeners are invited to stay vigilant, look deeper, and “break the spell”—in Minneapolis and across a nation at a crossroads.
