Democrats REJECT Socialist Candidate in Unexpected Move | 8/12/26

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Democrats REJECT Socialist Candidate in Unexpected Move"

The Glenn Beck Program – August 12, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Glenn Beck Program (hosted today by Pat Gray and Jeff Fisher for Glenn) dives into the surprising results of recent primary elections, specifically focusing on the rejection of a far-left socialist candidate by the Democratic Party in Wisconsin. The conversation broadens to explore the rising influence of socialism and Islam in American politics, skepticism about politicians' transparency, ongoing debates about Israel and antisemitism, concerns about COVID-era policy revelations, and challenges surrounding the current political climate.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Wisconsin Primary: Democrats Reject Far-Left Socialist Francesca Hong

• [03:44–06:27]
  • Francesca Hong, a self-identified socialist, lost her bid to be the Democratic nominee for Wisconsin governor.
  • Her platform included extreme progressive positions: eliminating the police, abolishing prisons and ICE, and even dismantling the Senate.
  • The hosts speculate whether her losing the primary improves or worsens Republican chances in the general election. They note her replacement is still very liberal but far less radical.
  • "You don't want a socialist psycho even having a chance to win in November." — Jeff Fisher [03:45]
  • Amusing anecdotes about Hong's personal quirks: her dislike for Thanksgiving (while paradoxically calling it her favorite holiday) and feeling "attacked" by Christmas-themed computer backgrounds.

2. Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) Interview and Ideology

• [06:46–08:44]
  • In-depth analysis and critique of an interview by David Remnick (The New Yorker) with Megan Romer, DSA Co-Chair.
  • Romer unable to specify what “taxing the hell out of millionaires” would practically mean; the hosts lampoon her lack of policy detail.
  • "They don't want people to be wealthy. They don't care what you've created... how it's helped humanity." — Jeff Fisher [09:39]

Quote Highlight:

Interviewer: “If you’re the co-chair of the DSA, shouldn’t you be more specific than just taxing the hell out of something?”
Megan Romer: “Again, it’s democracy, right... We have to look at what we need to spend and what we need.”
[07:39–07:56]

3. DSA Position on Israel and Antisemitism

• [14:34–18:39]
  • Discussion on DSA’s stance: "No defense or economic support for Israel", supporting a one-state solution with a capital in Jerusalem (implying elimination of Israel).
  • When grilled about October 7 events and DSA-endorsed candidates attending pro-Hamas rallies, Romer justifies attendance and calls the attack "inevitable."
  • The hosts and interviewer express shock at her stance, labeling it openly anti-Israel and antisemitic.
• "So if you're in Israel, you don't have a right to defend yourself; that's kind of gone now in her mind." — Jeff Fisher [21:54]

Quote Highlight:

Megan Romer: "October 7th was largely inevitable. If you put people in an open air concentration camp... you have to expect that they are going..."
[18:19]

4. Support for Israel: American Policy & Public Opinion

• [24:09–30:48]
  • Analysis of US financial/military support for Israel and rising American fatigue over foreign aid.
  • Mention of recent peace proposals and Netanyahu’s insistence on Hamas disarming.
  • Notable American political figures (from both parties) displaying hostility or opposition to Netanyahu and/or Israeli policy.
  • The growing left-right convergence on suspicions toward Israel is highlighted, including unlikely alliances (e.g., Tucker Carlson and Hunter Biden having a conversation).
  • Some Democrats, like Michigan’s Jewish Attorney General Dana Nessel, now feel unwelcome or unsafe in their own party due to surging antisemitic sentiment [99:13].

5. COVID Policy, Vaccines, and Dr. Fauci Controversies

• [31:28–41:52]
  • Revelations from newly released texts: Fauci and top officials privately acknowledged “miscarriage risk” of the COVID vaccine but publicly reassured safety for pregnant women.
  • The hosts accuse Fauci and the CDC of deliberate misinformation, referencing both documentation and treatments of dissenting medical voices.
  • Remarks about gain-of-function funding and the origin of COVID, reviving criticisms from earlier pandemic discourse.
  • Former NFL players like Cam Newton come forward about fraudulent vaccine cards and faked compliance, echoing Aaron Rodgers’ much-publicized resistance [39:26–41:44].
  • The hosts lament mainstream and institutional media's role in silencing alternative views on both COVID and vaccines.

6. Transparency Issues: The Mitch McConnell Saga

• [45:07–59:13]
  • The segment lampoons the ongoing ‘missing’ status of Senator Mitch McConnell ("Day 60 of America held hostage by Mitch McConnell").
  • The lack of verified video/evidence of his present condition sparks conspiratorial joking and criticism of political opacity.
  • Only private friend Scott Jennings receives phone calls, raising questions about public accountability for high office holders.
  • The hosts suggest this secrecy is inappropriate for a serving U.S. Senator.

Quote Highlight:

"It's America, not Iran. Show us where you are, how you're doing, when you're coming back, if you’re coming back." — Jeff Fisher [58:00]

7. Rise of Islam & Demographic Shifts in America

• [81:50–98:11]
  • Concerns about the spread of Islam and construction of mosques/Islamic centers, particularly in places like Texas, Illinois, and Michigan.
  • Citing activist podcasts and first-hand accounts, the hosts warn of deliberate strategies to use America’s own laws for religious-political ends.
  • Discussion of a recent Chicago incident, where a planned Christian event was preempted by a large Muslim demonstration; claims that anti-Christian and anti-Jewish rhetoric is being openly espoused.
  • Debate about what Americans should or could do in response (including suggestions like ending all immigration and classifying Islam as a political ideology rather than a religion).

Quote Highlight:

"This is America. Guys, are you awake? Do you understand what is at stake here?" — Christian event organizer in Chicago [92:30]

8. Miscellaneous: Pop Culture & Political Tidbits

• [67:32–79:16]
  • Chewing the Fat segment: Obama’s new podcast about six books that shaped his worldview; lampooning the political podcast boom.
  • Amusing story: Harry Potter fans successfully lobby to reroute a major cable project to preserve Dobby the house elf’s “grave.” [71:32–73:12]
  • New Orleans confirms using AI in limited capacity for 911 call triage, despite media backlash and public skepticism. [74:02–77:13]
  • Spotify test-drives ad-skipping for podcasts; the industry fears ad revenues could nosedive.
  • Lottery payout gripes: “You want 433.1 million and then they take out of that... It's barely enough to get yourself lunch." — Pat Gray [79:13]

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• "You don't want a socialist psycho even having a chance to win..." — Jeff Fisher [03:45]
• "If you’re the co-chair of the DSA, shouldn’t you be more specific than just taxing the hell out of something?" — Interviewer [07:39]
• "October 7th was largely inevitable..." — Megan Romer [18:19]
• "It’s America, not Iran. Show us where you are, how you’re doing, when you’re coming back, if you’re coming back." — Jeff Fisher [58:00]
• "Islam, they've already stated their goal is to take over this country." — Pat Gray [98:32]
• "You want to keep losing weight... would I take a different approach? That's where Lean comes in." — [37:11] (Humorous ad commentary)
• "Obama and Michelle together at the library... They don't look together. It's almost like, 'I couldn't stand my husband,' but at least we have that in common." — Jeff Fisher [70:56]

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Memorable Moments

• The show’s comedic frustration with politicians’ secrecy, particularly the "Where’s Mitch McConnell?" segment [45:07–59:26]
• Satirical rundown of socialist proposals: banning ICE, “tax the hell out of millionaires,” eliminating the police, etc.
• Absurdist pop culture crossover: fans protecting Dobby the house elf's "grave" from utility expansion [71:53–73:23]
• Heated factual correction of Kamala Harris’s comments about the SAVE Act and voter ID [118:28–123:31]
• “Doing nothing is oppressing the people; you are doing something—you’re oppressing people and you're making money and you're busy out there oppressing." — Pat Gray [13:09]

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Important Timestamps

• 03:44–06:27 – Discussion of Wisconsin’s primary results, socialist Francesca Hong’s loss
• 06:46–08:44 – Examination of DSA’s incoherent tax policies
• 14:34–18:39 – DSA’s position on Israel and antisemitism
• 31:28–41:52 – Fauci and COVID vaccine revelations
• 45:07–59:13 – Mitch McConnell’s mysterious absence and Senate concerns
• 67:32–79:16 – “Chewing the Fat” pop culture and media industry tidbits
• 81:50–98:11 – Islam’s growing influence, American reactions, and policy discussion
• 99:13 – Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel says she won’t attend her party’s convention due to safety concerns as a Jew

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Summary Flow & Utility

The episode presents a blend of straight political analysis, social and cultural commentary, and moments of light-hearted satire. The tone is irreverent but serious about perceived existential threats: socialism in the Democratic Party, the growth of political Islam, the erosion of American transparency and institutions, and cultural divisions over Israel and COVID.

For listeners new to the show:
Expect a mixture of conservative critique, close reading of political events and personalities, some off-the-wall humor, and an open concern about the direction of American politics and society.

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Conclusion

This episode underscores the anxiety among conservative commentators about the far-left’s prominence in mainstream politics, skepticism toward media and establishment narratives (on topics like COVID and immigration), and the deepening sense of national division—whether over policy, demographics, or values. The hosts express a clear concern that unless average Americans stay vigilant and engaged, these trends will continue to challenge the foundations of American society.

Transcript

[Glenn Beck]

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[Jeff Fisher]

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[Jeff Fisher]

Pat and Jeffy For Glenn today, there were some primaries, some big important primaries and some fascinating results from those primaries and frankly, not quite sure how to feel about them. We'll get into that and lots more coming up in one minute. You know, one of the easiest mistakes to make when buying a house is assuming you're only buying a house. But the truth is you're not. You're also buying the neighborhood. You're buying the commute. You're buying the school district, you're buying the neighbors you haven't met yet. And you're buying every little surprise that comes with all of that. That's why having the right real estate agent matters so much. A good agent doesn't just unlock the front door and tell you how nice the kitchen is. They know the local market. They know what to look for, what questions to ask, and what potential problems deserve a closer look before you sign anything. That's why Glen started Real Estate Agents I trust. It's a network of experienced, successful agents who have earned their reputations by helping people navigate one of the biggest financial decisions you'll ever make. They've also earned their reputations by working hard and closing great deals for the people who use them. Look, you're not just buying four walls in a roof. You're choosing a place where a big part of your life is going to happen, where Your kids grow up. Go to realestate Agents. I Trust dot com. That's real estate agents. I Trust dot com. All right, so yesterday, Francesca Hong. I always want to call her Wong, for some reason. It's Hong. She lost in her bid to become governor of Wisconsin.

[Pat Gray]

Wait, what?

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah, the socialist psycho actually lost the election. And on the surface, it seemed. Oh, good, right. You don't want a socialist psycho even having a chance to win in November. Yes, but would she have had a better chance or a worse chance of losing to the Republican in the general election?

[Pat Gray]

Yeah, that's a good question.

[Jeff Fisher]

A lot of experts think this guy, the. The guy who won, has a better chance of beating the Republican than she would have now. Who knows? And you don't want to even take a chance, really, that the. That the socialist is going to win in. In these cases. I mean, they are so far out.

[Pat Gray]

So the. The. The person that was running against Hong, is he like socialist light? Is he part of the Democratic Socialist Light Party?

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah, he's. I mean, he's super liberal, obviously.

[Pat Gray]

Obviously.

[Jeff Fisher]

But he's more of a normal liberal than she is. I mean, she was so weird that she hated Thanksgiving, except that was her favorite holiday. But she wanted to eliminate.

[Pat Gray]

Right, right. That's the first meal I cooked when I was a chef.

[Jeff Fisher]

Okay, okay, whatever. She also apparently hated Christmas because she Talked about in 2019, she felt attacked when, at her workplace, the IT Bro, as she called him, changed the computer background to show snow and Christmas trees. Oh, no. Oh, no. She didn't like that. She felt threatened by it. I don't know why she just didn't change the background.

[Pat Gray]

Have the admin rights, bro.

[Jeff Fisher]

Okay, maybe she could.

[Pat Gray]

She had to get a hold of the bro.

[Jeff Fisher]

We do have that problem here. If you're not the administrator, you can't make changes like that. So maybe she was stuck with it, and that freaked her out.

[Pat Gray]

Threatened her. Every day. Every day she came in the computer, there was. It was snowing on my computer.

[Jeff Fisher]

Unbelievable. She also wanted to ban the police. Eliminate police. She wanted to eliminate prisons. Yeah, that's a good idea. That's a good idea. She wanted to eliminate ice. Of course she wanted to eliminate the Senate.

[Pat Gray]

I mean, yeah, I mean, it's just

[Jeff Fisher]

burn it all down psychotic. So the other guy didn't want to do necessarily those things, but he does want to raise taxes, and he. You know, it's. He's not good on immigration and all of that nonsense, but at least he

[Pat Gray]

doesn't want to close down ice. He just Wants him gone.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah, right, Exactly.

[Pat Gray]

I'm not going to allow him to do anything.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yes. Yeah, but we really have a democratic socialist problem in this country.

[Pat Gray]

I do. They've got their hooks in. Everywhere you turn it. Seemingly there's an issue.

[Jeff Fisher]

But there was a great interview that the New Yorkers, David Remnick, did with the DSA co chair, Megan Romer. She's a real winner. It's just a darn shame she's not running for anything right now because you'd love to see.

[Pat Gray]

She doesn't need to run for this. She's in control of the dsa. What are we talking about? Right, well, not in full control. But wait, she'll get her grubby hands on the full control soon.

[Jeff Fisher]

Well, you hope so.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Jeff Fisher]

You're going to find out how brilliant she is in just a second here. But David Remnick, I was kind of surprised. Yeah. That he conducted a pretty good interview.

[Pat Gray]

Yes, he did.

[Jeff Fisher]

Tries to hold her feet to the fire. Here they are talking about taxes.

[Megan Romer]

But we do believe in taxing the hell out of millionaires. Yeah, absolutely.

[Interviewer]

What is taxing the hell out of them mean?

[Jeff Fisher]

Good question.

[Megan Romer]

Yeah. You know, again, I don't have like a solid, but. But I think.

[Interviewer]

But shouldn't you.

[Pat Gray]

Yes.

[Interviewer]

I mean, if you're the co. Chair of the dsa, shouldn't you be more specific than just taxing the hell out of something? What exactly do you mean?

[Megan Romer]

Yes, so again, it's democracy, right. And we have to look at what we need to spend and what we need. We don't want to depend on the existence of millionaires because that means people are still getting exploited. So, yeah, we need to look at what we need to pay for in the interim, what sort of tax base we need for that to happen and then. And build from there.

[Jeff Fisher]

Okay, so even these psychos don't have an answer for that. Like, how much are you talking about? And usually they're not ashamed to tell you. I mean, they want to eliminate the police and prisons. For heaven's sakes, tell us what taxing the hell out of somebody means. What do you want to take 50%? You want to take a hundred percent? What do you want to do here? How much is enough?

[Pat Gray]

And what are we doing with that money? I mean, is that. Is that money just being redistributed to the people on the streets?

[Jeff Fisher]

Exactly. Yeah, of course it is.

[Glenn Beck]

There's no.

[Pat Gray]

There's. You're not paying for prisons. You're not pay ice. You're not paying for the Senate, you're not paying for any of the city services, I guess, right? I mean, the municipality, the people that are holding office aren't there. What exactly is the money that you're getting from these millionaires that you hate so much doing? Yeah, and we have to stop. Once you, once you, they stop being millionaires. Right. Then the people aren't oppressed working for them, what happens then?

[Jeff Fisher]

But the people who want to tax the hell out of millionaires and billionaires never have that answer. What, what are you going to spend it on? How much are you going to take? What is their fair share? Because the upper 1% already pay 51 of the burden. The, the top 1% of earners pay 51 of the tax burden. How much should it be?

[Pat Gray]

Well, not that. I'll tell you what, that's not, that's not enough.

[Jeff Fisher]

No, it's, it's, it's never enough to these people. It's never enough. They don't want people to be wealthy. They don't want people to be successful in this country. They don't care what you've created. They don't care how it's helped humanity.

[Scott Jennings]

They don't care.

[Guest/Caller]

Humanity.

[Pat Gray]

It's oppressed of the humanity, right?

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah, you think so? You think Amazon has oppressed humanity? SpaceX and Tesla.

[Pat Gray]

Oh, the hatred of the people that worked that.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah, I know.

[Pat Gray]

Elon's only made I don't know how many people millionaires.

[Jeff Fisher]

Well, it was when he went, when he took SpaceX.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Jeff Fisher]

Public. Thousands. Yeah, thousands. In fact, some of them became billionaires and then thousands of them became millionaires. That's a terrible, that's a terrible thing. That's terrible. Now you just got a bunch more people who need to be taxed that

[Pat Gray]

are busy oppressing other people.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yep, that's right. But I mean, that is the socialist mindset.

[Pat Gray]

Yes, it is. Now, of course, what's her name here? The.

[Jeff Fisher]

Megan Romer.

[Pat Gray]

Megan. She, she's a great spokesperson for them. She's got all the numbers and facts to back everything up.

[Jeff Fisher]

I mean, it's shocking how bad she is.

[Pat Gray]

It really is. I mean, I know, you know, my, my, my, my, my, my line is if someone puts a mic in front of you, you don't have to speak. That's, you know, it's a good rule of thumb and a lot of people needs to practice that. But she, you know, and she should. But the mic is she does her

[Jeff Fisher]

house and so, yeah, yeah, so she goes ahead and.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah, she goes ahead and speaks, tries

[Jeff Fisher]

to, tries to Answer questions. Here she is talking about her politics.

[Interviewer]

You just describe yourself as a Jon Stewart liberal. Tell me about your life until 2018. What. What were you doing? What was your mindset and why did it change?

[Megan Romer]

Absolutely true. Got most of my news from Jon Stewart. That is. That was my primary news source. I'd read the Sunday Times and I'd read Jon Stewart. And I actually, I did read the New Yorker and sometimes even for more than the cartoons.

[Interviewer]

I appreciate that. What happened? What turned?

[Megan Romer]

So after Hillary Clinton did not win, and I was supportive of Hillary Clinton, I was not a registered Democrat at that point. I was registered independent. And then she didn't win. And I was horrified. I was baffled. I tried to become involved in the Democratic Party. What I ended up involved in was this, like, women's club where you'd, like, have speakers. Like, you weren't actually making any decisions. You were hearing people talk about a book.

[Jeff Fisher]

Like.

[Megan Romer]

And that was all really frustrating because I was like, who's doing anything? What are we pushing? Anything? And a friend who is a folk musician said, you know, we are starting this DSA chapter. You should come to America the Socialists. And I was like, all right, well, I'll come to your meeting because. Because we're friends. But I'm not saying comrade.

[Jeff Fisher]

And I went to the meeting and

[Megan Romer]

I was just so relieved. They were actually doing something. Just anything. They had plans to just do something.

[Pat Gray]

That's a problem. Yeah, That's a problem that we're seeing all over the country for sure, is

[Jeff Fisher]

because they're doing something.

[Pat Gray]

Something.

[Jeff Fisher]

They're not doing the right thing, but it's something.

[Pat Gray]

Doesn't matter.

[Jeff Fisher]

They're.

[Pat Gray]

Do they. They're perceived as doing something.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yep. And she's doing something.

[Pat Gray]

If you're doing nothing, then what you're doing is oppressing the people. You are doing something. You're oppressing people and you're making money and you're busy out there oppressing. And we can't have that

[Jeff Fisher]

again. She shouldn't be. She shouldn't be the co chair of the Glee club. And here she is the head of a, you know, a party that's becoming fairly significant. And she's just. But stupid.

[Pat Gray]

She's. She's the National.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

That's not new. Because AOC made a point of saying that aoc. AOC has nothing to do with the National. She's just New York local chapter.

[Jeff Fisher]

And that's better, I guess. Worse or about the same. What is it?

[Pat Gray]

It's different.

[Jeff Fisher]

I do like the fact that the New Yorkers David and Rebnik seems to be completely disgusted with it.

[Pat Gray]

And he's doing a great job by keeping letting her just spew her dumbness.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yep.

[Pat Gray]

That's. I mean, that's a. Instead of arguing anything, just let her spew her dumbness.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yep. And just hold her feet to the fire.

[Pat Gray]

Yep. Just push back enough to say, wait, shouldn't you have that number?

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

Shouldn't you know what you're talking about?

[Jeff Fisher]

Really well done.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah. He does a nice job here, which kind of surprises me. I wouldn't expect that from the New Yorker. But he, he actually does a really good job. Then of course, he asks her about Israel.

[Pat Gray]

Oh, boy.

[Interviewer]

Of Israel in any form. Essentially a red card in DSA as I understand it. In 2024, DSA's National Political withdrew its endorsement of Alexandria Ocasio Cortez over her support for a House resolution stating that denying Israel's right to exist is a form of antisemitism. And her local chapter stuck with her. And this was an argument that continued on. Where are you on it?

[Megan Romer]

Yeah. So that was like a very complicated and very like inter DSA bureaucratic question. But convention decided that.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah, this is not complicated.

[Megan Romer]

Solid red line. No defense or economic support for Israel.

[Interviewer]

Wow. Does Israel have the right to defend itself according to dsa? What is the position that DSA is headed toward here? Is it for a two state solution? Is that, Is that.

[Scott Jennings]

No.

[Interviewer]

Is it a binational one state solution?

[Pat Gray]

Yes.

[Interviewer]

What in fact is the position of dsa?

[Megan Romer]

Yeah, so our position is a free Palestine with the capital in Jerusalem. So I think that could be safely read as a one state solution.

[Interviewer]

So the Camp David Accords that were being negotiated at the beginning of the century under the Clinton administration, had the Palestinians accepted it, you. That would have satisfied you?

[Megan Romer]

Good question. I need to, I need to look at what. The actual specifics there for a second

[Jeff Fisher]

because the fact is I have no idea what you're talking about. Is that obvious? I mean, that is so obvious. She has no idea what he's talking about there.

[Pat Gray]

She has never heard about it.

[Jeff Fisher]

She doesn't know anything about it? Nope.

[Pat Gray]

Not once.

[Jeff Fisher]

You know, that's a good question. I don't know all the specifics on that or anything at all about that or anything else.

[Pat Gray]

But I mean, I don't know all, all the specifics either. But I'm just, I mean, you, you know what happened?

[Jeff Fisher]

Yes.

[Pat Gray]

You know what happened?

[Jeff Fisher]

She doesn't. She really doesn't. And she favors a one state solution.

[Pat Gray]

Absolutely.

[Jeff Fisher]

And that state is not Israel. She doesn't believe Israel has the right to exist. Well, I mean, they can go somewhere.

[Pat Gray]

Somewhere else.

[Jeff Fisher]

I think she explains that, or at least in part.

[Megan Romer]

Good question. I need to. I need to look at what the actual specifics there were. I don't know them off the top of my head, but yeah. So when you say, does each of you have the right to defend itself? People, humans, peoples, have the right to live in safety, and. Absolutely. But if that safety means doing genocide to somebody else, then no, that's. That's not defensible.

[Interviewer]

Darieliza Avila Chevalier recently won a primary election in New York City and is almost sure to win the general election. She attended an October 8th pro Palestinian, pro Hamas rally, which many people saw as a justification of the October 7th attack. And some of her tweets have been extremely ugly. On this score and on others. Do you. Do you fully support her in all these activities and what she's had to say?

[Megan Romer]

I think Dariel Issa can speak for herself, certainly. And I think she's apologized for. For some pieces of that and. And has been.

[Interviewer]

Not for. Not for attending that rally.

[Megan Romer]

Unapologetic about other pieces of that. And.

[Interviewer]

And do you support her yourself in that?

[Megan Romer]

Yeah, I do.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Interviewer]

Because in other words, you would have gone to that rally had you been able to.

[Megan Romer]

That's a good question. I probably would have, yeah. Yeah. I don't live in New York City, so I wouldn't have.

[Interviewer]

One day after the slaughter of 1200 people and taking over 200 hostages, you would have come and rallied behind Hamas.

[Megan Romer]

I think that October 7th was largely inevitable. If you put people in an open air concentration camp and you deprive them of rights, of dignity, of the ability to live in safety, you have to expect that they are going. I can't take anymore for that long.

[Pat Gray]

Oh, I mean, wow.

[Jeff Fisher]

First of all, open air precludes it being a concentration camp, so that doesn't work at all. All right. Triple eight. Seven, two, seven. Beck. More coming up in one minute.

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[Megan Romer]

Foreign.

[Jeff Fisher]

Jeffy for Glenn today, triple eight seven two seven Beck. So there you have it from the DSA Co Chair Megan Romer. She supported Hamas on October 8th. She would have gone to that rally like Dariel Lisa did. Which means that they supported the slaughter of Israel and Israelis, of innocent Israelis on October 7th. Because Israel hadn't responded yet.

[Pat Gray]

Done any of it. They hadn't responded at all.

[Jeff Fisher]

No. And so you support just the slaughter of Israelis.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah. All the violence was from the Palestinians and Hamas, if I remember correctly. I might get that screwed up. But I'm just thinking 10-7-Now, it seems

[Jeff Fisher]

to be pretty accurate. I think you gotta, you gotta feel for it.

[Pat Gray]

Okay.

[Jeff Fisher]

For what happened there. And they're fine with it. In fact, they're supporting it because they're showing up at the rally for it on behalf of. On behalf of the slaughter of 1200 Israelis and as he mentioned, over 200 kidnappings as well. So they took 200 hostages, they killed 1200 Israelis and you're supporting them in that effort?

[Pat Gray]

Yep.

[Jeff Fisher]

That just shows that this is an anti Jew thing.

[Pat Gray]

Oh, for sure.

[Jeff Fisher]

She's pretty unabashed about it.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Jeff Fisher]

Pretty open about it. Well, despicable.

[Pat Gray]

Every right to exist.

[Jeff Fisher]

Well, kind of not though.

[Pat Gray]

People, people you know can defend themselves

[Jeff Fisher]

and that's what they were doing. So she doesn't actually believe that.

[Pat Gray]

No, she does not.

[Jeff Fisher]

So if you're in Israel, you don't have a right to defend yourself. That's kind of gone now in her mind for sure. And in the dsa. So just know if you support the Democratic Socialists of America, that's what you support. The elimination of Israel and a one state solution. That's just Palestine. No Israel. Wow.

[Pat Gray]

That's it though.

[Jeff Fisher]

That's it though. Don't worry about it. And of course you gotta tax the hell out of anybody who's been successful in America.

[Pat Gray]

All right.

[Jeff Fisher]

I Don't know what that means necessarily. I just know you gotta tax the hell out of them.

[Pat Gray]

You're your millionaire, we're taking your money, right?

[Jeff Fisher]

All right. Triple eight. 727 Beck more coming up.

[Glenn Beck]

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[Pat Gray]

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[Jeff Fisher]

It's Pat and Jeffy for Glenn this week. 888727 Becky with the DSA supporting a one state solution in the Middle east and that state being Palestine, it just, it amazes me that there are Americans still that support that party at all. I'm not sure what aspect of the democratic socialists of America you like, but there's nothing, not much to like as far as I could tell. But as far as supporting Israel, I'd like to know. Let's take a temperature of the room. Do you still support, where do you stand now with Israel and the support that we give to them? Do we continue to send them three and a half billion dollars a year or is it time to amend that arrangement? Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday said Israel would reject the 15 point proposal for peace in the Gaza put forward by President Trump. Netanyahu said Israel rejects the 15 point document. The IDF will not make any withdrawal until Hamas is truly disarmed and will continue to thwart threats against our forces and citizens. Now President Trump in July announced an agreement for Hamas to disarm and for Israel, Israeli Defense forces to withdraw from the Gaza Strip as part of that ceasefire.

[Pat Gray]

The deal. All right.

[Jeff Fisher]

So I guess until they disarm, they're not going to support the agreement.

[Pat Gray]

I mean, that's.

[Jeff Fisher]

Right.

[Pat Gray]

That's what they said.

[Jeff Fisher]

Right.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah. And I, I think Netanyahu is, you know, like the peace plan that we, I guess, have preliminary, preliminarily looked at or written with Iran talked about. All the neighboring states, you know, can't be attacked.

[Jeff Fisher]

Right.

[Pat Gray]

Lebanon, Syria, you know, it's like, no, no, we're not agreeing to that.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah. So we're kind of in a tough position with Israel right now. And, you know, Netanyahu has said that eventually they're going to wean themselves off of America.

[Pat Gray]

He did say that. Absolutely. He did say that. I don't know that his friends in, in the Knesset were agreeing with him.

[Jeff Fisher]

I haven't heard a lot of. Yeah, what he said. I haven't heard a lot of.

[Pat Gray]

No, no, I don't think so, because that's. Oh, hey, Benji, what are you doing?

[Jeff Fisher]

That's a lot. Three and a half billion a year. You're gonna just all of a sudden do without that?

[Pat Gray]

Yeah, there's gonna be some withdrawals.

[Jeff Fisher]

But the thing is, I think there's a lot of Americans right now.

[Pat Gray]

Absolutely.

[Jeff Fisher]

Who are tired of it.

[Pat Gray]

Absolutely.

[Jeff Fisher]

Tired of supporting Israel. Tired of supporting. Really? Anybody with, with foreign donations.

[Pat Gray]

Absolutely. And on top of that, you have the, you have the, the DSA members who want to just, just, you know, they just want to be rid of Israel altogether. They want them to exist. And then you have the people like Tucker Carlson who just hate Netanyahu, you know, that he's finding common ground with others like Hunter Biden and I don't know about Thomas Massey or, or what's Her Face from Georgia, but they just hate Netanyahu. I mean, that's. That, that, that's their out on. Oh, we don't hate Israel. But that, that, that yahoo. That guy.

[Jeff Fisher]

That guy. Yeah. So I, I don't know. I think that they. I think Thomas Massey is pretty much done with supporting Israel at all, isn't he?

[Pat Gray]

I honestly, I don't know. It's.

[Jeff Fisher]

I think he's. I think he's done with supporting them completely.

[Pat Gray]

That's probably, probably part of the package.

[Guest/Caller]

Right.

[Pat Gray]

With the. Whatever.

[Jeff Fisher]

He doesn't want to send three and a half billion anymore.

[Pat Gray]

Why can't I think of a Marjorie Taylor? The chick from Georgia? Yeah, yeah. Tg Yep. Appreciates me calling her a chick.

[Jeff Fisher]

I think she probably does. Yeah, she probably does. But yeah, I. There was way too much agreement with. With Tucker and Hunter Biden the other day.

[Pat Gray]

Oh, yeah, what are they talking? Big time.

[Jeff Fisher]

Two hours.

[Pat Gray]

Two hours. And it was.

[Jeff Fisher]

They agreed on Israel. They agreed on. Oh, yes, many other.

[Pat Gray]

Hatred of. The hatred of Bibi Netanyahu is very prevalent and spoken about. And then, you know, Hunter did a huge talk about, you know, his, his drug addiction and his rehab from that and how his wife helped him and what a wonderful thing, you know, it is now. And. And Tucker just ate it up, laughed it up. It was wonderful.

[Jeff Fisher]

Interesting, the support he's getting from some.

[Pat Gray]

It is interesting.

[Jeff Fisher]

Been supposedly on the right for a really long time and they're rehabilitating Hunter Biden.

[Pat Gray]

Yes, they are.

[Jeff Fisher]

Why are we doing that?

[Pat Gray]

Yes, they are. And they talked about, you know, he talked about his debts.

[Jeff Fisher]

He's, you know, he's still deeply in debt, isn't he?

[Pat Gray]

Still. He has millions of dollars in debt, so he's hoping, you know, he's. He's working for a couple of. A couple of places in la that's to help the homeless. And. And then he has his sub stack. And what else did he have? I can't remember. He's doing these interviews and he's hoping that it'll all work out.

[Jeff Fisher]

Betty is hoping it'll.

[Pat Gray]

He's painting. He's painting.

[Jeff Fisher]

Oh, good.

[Pat Gray]

And he's. And he's writing a sub stack and so it's hoping that it all works out.

[Jeff Fisher]

Betty is being millions of dollars in debt. Any idea how much he's. He's getting for his paintings now? Because I think, I think most of the money that was going to paintings was really for access to Joe Biden when he was president.

[Pat Gray]

Choose.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah, I'm sorry, It's. Wow. Yeah, I'm sure the paintings were fantastic.

[Katie Miller]

Whatever.

[Pat Gray]

Whatever he's getting for them, it's not enough. I'll say that.

[Jeff Fisher]

I think people were paying 50, 75,000 at the time.

[Pat Gray]

In fact, they stopped reporting on it. Right. Because they didn't want. They didn't want to be known how much a lot of his paintings were getting sold for. And. Yeah, I mean, people like you thought it was to get access to his dad. Whatever.

[Jeff Fisher]

Silly of me, really.

[Pat Gray]

Whatever.

[Jeff Fisher]

I'm sure the paintings are Renoir, like Monet Ish.

[Pat Gray]

Years to come.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

You'll be happy to say. Is that a Biden?

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah, I'm sure that's the case. That's gonna happen.

[Pat Gray]

It is. Is that. It is. That's an. That's An HB signature. That's a.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah. So people be willing to pay.

[Pat Gray]

That's a.

[Jeff Fisher]

Render ones of dollars,

[Pat Gray]

I'm sure. And this is just a guess that you'll be able to find them in people's attics all across America.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yes. Yes, you will. Also, some stunning admissions by Anthony Fauci lately have been pretty amazing. That, you know, he's not necessarily admitting to anything, but we are finding we

[Pat Gray]

have evidence of stuff that's been said. Yes. That has been said throughout the. Throughout the COVID years.

[Jeff Fisher]

Newly released texts from Senator Rand Paul and Ron Johnson from Wisconsin showed that Fauci and other health officials actually knew about a miscarriage risk to the coronavirus vaccine, but told the public that it was completely safe for pregnant women. The exchange showed Fauci referring to the miscarriage risk in texts to Surgeon General Vivek Murthy and Dr. Rochelle Walensky, who was the director of the center for Disease Control right at the time. That's absolutely despicable.

[Pat Gray]

Oh, no question. I mean, no. And look at the time we had talked about the. The. The study that they were doing on pregnant women that they just stopped. So they didn't like the data. I know. We. Oh, that study. We don't need to do that study. Never mind, never mind, never mind. It's fine. They should get the vaccine. I just watched. Just an. Aside from that. I just watched a story that was a CNN story during the pandemic, the height of the pandemic, and Fauci was really saying that everyone should be vaccinated and wear a mask. CNN went chasing a doctor who was questioning everything about the vaccine. And, I mean, they hunted him down like he was a criminal.

[Jeff Fisher]

Right.

[Pat Gray]

And.

[Jeff Fisher]

Right.

[Pat Gray]

That's how. That's how people like him and us were treated for even questioning it.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah, You. Oh, you. You weren't allowed to.

[Pat Gray]

So, I mean, it's. It's amazing. And now we're finding proof that, you know these. I mean, we knew it.

[Guest/Caller]

Right?

[Pat Gray]

I mean, we did.

[Interviewer]

You.

[Pat Gray]

You may not have. Maybe. Maybe the. You know, maybe a lot of Americans didn't know it, but, I mean, if

[Jeff Fisher]

you followed it, I think a lot of Americans did know it. Here's what Fauci said in February of 2021 on pregnant women and the COVID vaccine.

[Glenn Beck]

Since the EUA. And under the EUA, approximately 20,000 pregnant women have been vaccinated with no red

[Jeff Fisher]

flags, as we say.

[Glenn Beck]

And this is being monitored by the

[Pat Gray]

CDC and the fda. Right.

[Jeff Fisher]

Wow. Meanwhile, behind closed doors.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah, there were red flags. Weren't there?

[Jeff Fisher]

There were a lot of red flag. More than red flags. They were discussing the uncertainty that Americans were facing and the things that people were bringing up. And there was missing pregnancy data, pregnant women excluded from trials. Whose statement? The World Health Organization statement citing the lack of data and a theoretical concern about miscarriage after the second dose. So they already knew about it. And then they kept telling the American people it was perfectly safe. Safe and effective.

[Pat Gray]

We are not here. You are. You do not see us here.

[Jeff Fisher]

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, Anthony Fauci. Who. Oh, he most definitely has been despicable for. And way before the COVID vaccine. Oh, was being discussed.

[Pat Gray]

Absolutely.

[Jeff Fisher]

I mean, you go back to the 80s with this guy, and he really should be in jail. He should be in prison.

[Pat Gray]

I mean, and look, he was worried about COVID all along. It's. I will say that, you know, you could probably make the case. And I. And I am. I'm not one to have to do all the work to make this case, but you could probably go back and make the case that Anthony Fauci helped create. Covid had his hands in that.

[Jeff Fisher]

Oh, you could definitely make that case with a gain of function.

[Pat Gray]

Maybe even had the. Had the elixir in his hands, which

[Jeff Fisher]

is why, you know, because he was funding that lab in Wuhan and knew

[Pat Gray]

it the whole time and through other entities.

[Jeff Fisher]

That's another thing. They knew the whole time.

[Pat Gray]

Yes.

[Jeff Fisher]

That the. That the virus came from the lab, and then they just tried to deflect attention from that because we were funding. He was funding it.

[Pat Gray]

And what he. At the time, remember, he was told not to. They weren't supposed to be doing the gain of function testing.

[Jeff Fisher]

Right.

[Pat Gray]

So he was. To him, I. I was giving money to this organization. What they did with it, I didn't know what was.

[Jeff Fisher]

So don't look over there. Look at the wet market where it came from. Bats, soup and monkeys. Unbelievable. Triple eight, seven, two, seven. Beck.

[Pat Gray]

Glenn Beck is back after this.

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[Jeff Fisher]

Pat and Jeffy for Glenn this week. Triple 8 727B Eck I love the things that are coming out about COVID right now on Anthony Fauci and many other Fronts. In fact, Cam Newton, former quarterback in the NFL, now he's got a podcast, like every other living organism on this planet. He just said yesterday that it wasn't just Aaron Rodgers. You might. You might remember Aaron Rodgers saying that when they asked him if he had received the vax, he said, yeah, I'm in. Immunized.

[Pat Gray]

Immunized. Yeah, I mean, immunized.

[Jeff Fisher]

Which was an interesting choice of words. He was just trying to avoid the

[Pat Gray]

blood that would start a firestorm.

[Jeff Fisher]

He knew that he was in for a firestorm because everybody who didn't get the vax had a firestorm in their life.

[Pat Gray]

Either. Yes, it's either.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yes, or you got the crap beat out of you. Yeah, right.

[Pat Gray]

Absolutely. And that's not a surprise. Look, with Cam, you know, set talking about, you know, how other NFL players in Green Bay and other teams throughout the league had that same thing. Of course they did.

[Jeff Fisher]

Right? Of course they did.

[Scott Jennings]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

That was the whole point of it, that these. That these guys knew that there would be a firestorm, so they just.

[Jeff Fisher]

They just went along.

[Pat Gray]

Yep, you're right. Yeah. You know, I got. I.

[Jeff Fisher]

A lot of them faked it.

[Pat Gray]

Absolutely.

[Jeff Fisher]

And they got the fake certificate or whatever.

[Pat Gray]

Cam was saying he saw some that would look fake. Actually looked fake. But there was legitimate fake vax cards out there.

[Jeff Fisher]

Legitimate fake. Yeah, vax cards.

[Pat Gray]

You hear me?

[Jeff Fisher]

There were legitimate things.

[Pat Gray]

Absolutely authentic.

[Jeff Fisher]

We know people who've had them.

[Pat Gray]

It's an authentic replica. We do. We do.

[Jeff Fisher]

But it's just fascinating because Aaron Rodgers got so much flack for that, and he continues to get flack, and people hate his guts because he avoided the vaccination. He didn't want to get vaccine. He didn't want it in his body, and he's paid for it ever since. And then to have Cam Newton come out and say it wasn't just him, it was a lot of people in the NFL, and I'm sure it was, but absolutely. It's really nice to have it confirmed.

[Pat Gray]

Well, that's what happens now, is the. The confirmation. Now, what becomes of these confirmations? We'll see.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah, well, nothing.

[Pat Gray]

I mean, the Anthony Fauci haters want him dragged through the streets, you know, and.

[Jeff Fisher]

And stoned or at least charged with something. I don't know about Stone, but I do want to charge for something.

[Pat Gray]

I do know about Stone. There's plenty of people I thought would be happy about that.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yes. But there's some in this building are definitely not Anthony Fauci fans.

[Pat Gray]

No, they are not. But, you know, Absolutely. Okay, so he gets charged if that happens. I mean, President.

[Jeff Fisher]

It's not going to happen.

[Pat Gray]

We hear that they're looking into whether the, you know, the auto pen pardon is actually real. And of course, I mean, it has to be, right?

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

Even if, if you believe that they were all auto pen, it's still. He's President Biden who has never denied it and said, yep, I knew all about him.

[Jeff Fisher]

Right. But Cam Newton said, I hate to be the whistleblower, but I call it how I see it. Look, if we're being honest, going back to 2020, there were multiple players, coaches and executives that fraudulently got their Covid shot. Yes, I said it. Too bad he didn't say it sooner to spare some people some real blowback. But at least he's saying it now.

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[Pat Gray]

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[Pat Gray]

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[Jeff Fisher]

Yes, this is day 60, by the way, of America held high hostage by Mitch McConnell. We still don't know what the deal is with him, frankly.

[Pat Gray]

Day 60, we don't. Day 60, I, I, I, I don't.

[Jeff Fisher]

60 days.

[Pat Gray]

I don't know why I'm so angry with it about this thing, but I am. Well, because it continues really angry about it. It's unbelievable.

[Jeff Fisher]

We still have no proof of life for this guy.

[Pat Gray]

Not really.

[Jeff Fisher]

We really Don't. We've not actually seen him.

[Pat Gray]

Nope.

[Jeff Fisher]

A video of him. Proof that it's a current video or photo.

[Pat Gray]

Someone would put up a Flock camera outside of Mitch McConnell's house, but nope, not even Flock has a picture of him.

[Guest/Caller]

No.

[Jeff Fisher]

It's amazing. It's amazing. He called Scott Jennings, though, yesterday. So we'll get into that.

[Pat Gray]

Okay.

[Jeff Fisher]

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[Pat Gray]

That's correct.

[Jeff Fisher]

That's who we're actually speaking of right now. Chris Matthews was a CNN douche. Or was it MSNBC? Might have been MSNBC.

[Pat Gray]

I think it was MSNBC.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah, but Mitch McConnell has been. I mean, he. It's been two months since he was taken out of his home unconscious.

[Pat Gray]

Day 60. Day 60. And we have not had a FaceTime. We haven't had a video call from his cell provider. Time.

[Jeff Fisher]

Nope.

[Pat Gray]

And none of it.

[Jeff Fisher]

Not even a courtesy, hey, I'm fine or I'm doing better or I'll be back after the Senate recess.

[Pat Gray]

Not a wave from a wheelchair leaving the hospital. Nothing.

[Jeff Fisher]

Which you would think. I mean, that would be reasonable, right?

[Pat Gray]

Absolutely.

[Jeff Fisher]

Okay, I'm going home. So you're going home to. Reeled out. And on the way out, you give a wave going home to rehab. Nope.

[Pat Gray]

I mean, we've heard stories all the time of politicians that make sure that they were, they had to wear their suit. It was very difficult for them, put their suit on when they were going home to rehab from a hospital. But they wanted to look presentable for the crowd to wave to. Leaving the hospital.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yes.

[Pat Gray]

We had none of that.

[Jeff Fisher]

None of it.

[Pat Gray]

So it's very hard to believe that he is a cognizant human being.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah, it is, it is. But he apparently placed a phone call to Scott Jennings at CNN yesterday, and this is new. They were gathering. This is a replay of this happened,

[Pat Gray]

the phone call that he had.

[Jeff Fisher]

This happened in the beginning, right? Yeah, he talked to him in the beginning and then nothing for quite a while.

[Pat Gray]

Weeks, if you go back to the timeline. Right. It was, we, we, we needed proof of life. And then we heard that they were going to pull the plug, that there was no proof of life.

[Interviewer]

Life.

[Pat Gray]

That he was, he was, they were going to pull the plug. And then it was like almost. It may have even been the next day. Scott Jennings.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

At the same time that we got a, some kind of picture that was with the first AI Picture with the, with the checkered shirt and the, and the wife and said that he talked to him. And then we got that and that was where he was still working with the people. Working with his, all his people and working on the, the, the, the, the demands of the job were still being handled. And he was. And then Scott talked to him for 20 minutes.

[Jeff Fisher]

Right. That's the first time, but this is the next time. Okay, so this was yesterday, apparently, that he got the phone call and they're sitting around the CNN table discussing.

[Interviewer/Host]

Do you just like call him up directly on his phone or does you call an aide and the aide hands it. How does it work?

[Scott Jennings]

He, he called me directly from him today. Now, you have to understand, I've known him since I was, you know, 16, 17 years old. So we've had a relationship for a long time. I worked on a lot of his campaigns over the years. So it's not unusual for us to chat.

[Interviewer/Host]

Scott, why isn't he calling into a great news organization? I mean, why is he talking to you and not talking?

[Scott Jennings]

You're saying it's not credible to call me?

[Interviewer/Host]

Lulu, I'M saying it's totally.

[Jeff Fisher]

No, Scott. What we're saying is. And look, I like Scott Jennings things. I. But this is irritating. What we're saying is the guy is a US Senator. Why hasn't he called somebody to prove that he's okay.

[Pat Gray]

Yes.

[Jeff Fisher]

Or that he'll be back or that he's rehabilitating something. Something. Give us something for the American people.

[Pat Gray]

You are smart enough.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

And wise enough.

[Jeff Fisher]

He knows and I know they're friends. I get it.

[Pat Gray]

But the firestorm that has surrounded this man for 60 days now.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

It's not a surprise that people would ask, why is he just calling you?

[Jeff Fisher]

Right, right. And she even brings it up, okay, if not us, what about Fox News? Friendly, somebody credible.

[Interviewer/Host]

But as you said, you're calling for his friend. But, I mean, call him. But there. I think there's what I'm hearing from Governor Bashir and I'm just wondering how you view that is, you know, why isn't he calling into even one that he would consider friendly, like Fox News? I mean, I guess. I guess that's the prevailing question that. Or put out an idea.

[Scott Jennings]

Yeah.

[Jeff Fisher]

You know, or put out a video.

[Scott Jennings]

And frankly, my belief about males of that generation is that they're intensely private.

[Pat Gray]

To be honest, he's always been a

[Scott Jennings]

little private about his own personal health care. You know, he's a polio survivor and one of the issues that he's had over time is weakness in his legs. I think that's part of what's going on here and part of the conditioning that he's having to go through right now. But I think men of that generation, frankly, are just pretty private about it.

[Interviewer/Host]

And to be honest, your radio show and have you asked him to call onto your radio show?

[Scott Jennings]

I hope that he will call into my radio show. I've had him on before and I'm hoping to have him on as we get closer to when the Senate comes.

[Interviewer/Host]

Does he know about all of the brouhaha around this?

[Jeff Fisher]

Is he aware of the whole swirl?

[Scott Jennings]

He told me today. He said it was like, I know this is unusual circumstances. I'm sitting here, the doctors tell me I don't have any life threatening issues. It must seem rather strange.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah.

[Scott Jennings]

So, yeah, I got the feeling he's somewhat aware of it and frankly, somewhat frustrated by it.

[Jeff Fisher]

He's frustrated by it. He's frustrated. We're the ones who are frustrated by it. Scott, this is a US Senator.

[Pat Gray]

It's very difficult to believe that it is. It's very difficult to believe that it is. And I, and I have no reason to disbelieve it. I like Scott Jennings.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

I mean, I know he's doing his CNN thing, he's doing his radio thing. We've talked to him on the, on, on the, our, our Daily Show. Pat Gran lease. We've had him on before. I like him, but that's very hard to believe. I don't know. Come on.

[Jeff Fisher]

It is. It doesn't make a lot of sense there. By now there should be something, you know, some proof like. Yes, I don't care how private he is. Yes, I don't care about people in his generation wanting their privacy health wise. That doesn't apply to a US Senator.

[Pat Gray]

I'm sorry.

[Jeff Fisher]

Come on.

[Pat Gray]

And he's had polio and his weakness in his legs. We know. Okay. We've had that rammed down our throats for years. We got it.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yep.

[Pat Gray]

That's just, that's unbelievable. You remember, you know how he facetimes his home health nurse from time to time, Scott? Yeah, he should do that and just record it so that we know he's alive. He's supposed to be doing, he's supposed, this is state time. He's supposed to be back in Kentucky doing state business. But he's not. He's in Washington D.C. at his home apparently in rehab. Okay.

[Jeff Fisher]

Is he though? There's no proof of that.

[Pat Gray]

There is no proof of that at all.

[Jeff Fisher]

Nobody saw him arrive at his house.

[Pat Gray]

We saw him leave. We did have, I mean what small documentation we had that was supposed to be him. Was him unconscious of being wheeled into an ambulance.

[Jeff Fisher]

And that's another thing because he just said there that he, that Scott just said that McConnell told him his doctor said he has no life threatening.

[Pat Gray]

Right.

[Jeff Fisher]

Well, he was wheeled out of there unconscious after a heart attack back, we're told that seems somewhat life threatening, at least in the beginning.

[Pat Gray]

First of all, a little hard event. A little hard event doesn't break anybody. You could be wheeled out into the hospital anytime with that.

[Jeff Fisher]

Oh, sounds like you might be speaking from experience there. A little heart of it.

[Pat Gray]

A little heart event.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah, but were you on, you weren't unconscious when they took you out, right?

[Pat Gray]

When I, when I, when they wheeled me out of the house, I was not unconscious. Know.

[Jeff Fisher]

Okay.

[Pat Gray]

The last thing I remember is the ambulance was, went out of our neighborhood a different way than I would have gone. And I was looking at the last, the last thing I remember looking out the back window of the ambulance going, why are they going this way? And the next thing I remember I woke up in the afternoon, just like

[Jeff Fisher]

you to be complaining about the route they're taking to the hospital while you're having a heart attack.

[Pat Gray]

There they go.

[Jeff Fisher]

They wouldn't be going this way. Why are they going this way to the hospital?

[Pat Gray]

Stupid. What?

[Jeff Fisher]

Driver, driver, you're going the wrong way.

[Advertiser/Host]

Okay.

[Jeff Fisher]

And by the way, it'd be nice to have a waffle back here. Can you give me a waffle? Okay. Yeah. So we bow to your expertise, the heart of it.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Jeff Fisher]

And the ambulance taking you out, all of those things. But okay, let's say it's not life threatening. Now that's even better. Show us.

[Pat Gray]

Absolutely, absolutely. Let's see.

[Jeff Fisher]

You know, do a quick video, right? 10 seconds, me mention a current event.

[Pat Gray]

And as you're bouncing the rehab tennis ball against the wall.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

Something, something, something. This, this thing that is happening is completely unacceptable.

[Jeff Fisher]

Just show us. It's not. I. Show us. You've got five fingers on your hand and not six or four. And, and, and we'll be satisfied. And because, you know, we've got a Republican majority in the Senate that is so narrow right now, so thin really matters whether or not Mitch Matthews is. Mitch McConnell is gonna be able to get it again. It matters whether Mitch McConnell is going to be able to go back to the Senate or not. We don't even know. He hasn't even said, oh, by the way, when the Senate is back from recess, I'll be there. We haven't even heard that yet.

[Pat Gray]

No, we have not.

[Jeff Fisher]

And he apparently didn't tell Scott because Jennings didn't relate any of that to us. So I don't know. And again, 60 days.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Jeff Fisher]

That's two months of uncertainty for the American people. We're being treated like this is Iran, like this is.

[Pat Gray]

Yes.

[Jeff Fisher]

And we've got no right to know how he's doing, what he looks like, where he is. You know, it's. It's America, not Iran. Show us where you are, how you're doing, when you're coming back, if you're coming back.

[Pat Gray]

Right.

[Jeff Fisher]

Maybe he's not. Maybe he's not coming back.

[Pat Gray]

Maybe he's not that.

[Jeff Fisher]

But we should know that too, so we can get that resolved and have a special election and get somebody elected to the position.

[Pat Gray]

And what are the odds, the way things are going now, if you believe, and you believe that, you know, they did have. We're going to pull the plug. And they didn't pull the plug because attention was brought onto the, onto it, that they were going to pull the plug. So now that he's supposed to be home, do they pull the plug now? So here in day 64, sometime this week, do we hear.

[Jeff Fisher]

You're saying if he's not. Do we hear to the point where we're hearing something Right. I don't. I don't think we're there. I don't. I don't know that Jennings would lie about that. I'd like to think he wouldn't just make all of that up. I don't. I don't know. According to him, they discussed all kinds of issues.

[Pat Gray]

I don't know what to what ends it would have to be for him to make up up the whole thing.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah. Yes. What is the point on that? But we, we haven't understood the point of not showing us what's going on. The whole time.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah. The entire time.

[Jeff Fisher]

I don't know what kind of game is being played here with us, but

[Pat Gray]

whatever it is, I don't like it.

[Jeff Fisher]

I don't know. I haven't liked it the whole time. But they don't seem to care about that.

[Pat Gray]

No, they do.

[Jeff Fisher]

They don't seem to care what I like.

[Pat Gray]

Mitch says. I. I saw. I saw a phone call come in. I was hoping it was Mitch McConnell on my phone, but it wasn't.

[Jeff Fisher]

Oh, it wasn't.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Jeff Fisher]

No, doggone it. Yeah, I got one a few minutes ago. It was just Spam, so I really thought.

[Pat Gray]

It wasn't Mitch.

[Jeff Fisher]

It could be Mitch McConnell.

[Pat Gray]

It wasn't even.

[Jeff Fisher]

No, it wasn't one of them. Chris Matthews or Mitch McConnell? It was none of the three. All right. Triple eight. Seven, two, seven. Beck. More coming up in one minute.

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[Pat Gray]

Glam Beck is on.

[Jeff Fisher]

It's Pat and Jeffy for Glenn today. Triple eight, 727. Beck, you know we're speaking of politicians. There's one in Michigan who's got a Senate election coming up, and this would be unthinkable for Abdul Rahman El Sayed to become the senator from Michigan.

[Pat Gray]

You're talking about, doctor.

[Jeff Fisher]

I am sorry. I apologize profusely. It is Dr. Abdul Rahman El Say.

[Pat Gray]

Okay.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah. Because he's a doctor. He's not a medical doctor. He's not a physician. He doesn't have a license. He's never treated patients. But by golly, he wants to let you know he is a doctor, so. Okay.

[Pat Gray]

So don't disrespect the man.

[Jeff Fisher]

Apparently, he also played football. Is that true? I guess he played high school.

[Pat Gray]

He played high school football.

[Jeff Fisher]

Supposedly the captain of his high school football team.

[Pat Gray]

That was questioned online and the Internet went crazy. He was two years. Pictures.

[Jeff Fisher]

Okay, we got. You couldn't fake that, could you?

[Pat Gray]

We got. Okay. There's no way he played at the. I mean, he went to school at the University of Michigan.

[Jeff Fisher]

Oh, he didn't.

[Pat Gray]

University of Michigan does not need to need someone as short as him on their team.

[Jeff Fisher]

What is gonna happen? Five' five or something?

[Pat Gray]

Honestly, I don't know how tall he is, but he's a short for an adult male.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

And they do everything they can in the videos to make it appear like

[Jeff Fisher]

he's kind of disguised.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah. Here he is talking about his football, though, or. Football is very much associated with a, you know, particularly masculine and oftentimes toxic, toxically masculine culture. And so much of it was about. You wanted to be able to get

[Glenn Beck]

back up and play for your team,

[Pat Gray]

and you really aren't allowed to show pain or vulnerability.

[Scott Jennings]

That's part of the sport.

[Pat Gray]

You're correct, Doc.

[Jeff Fisher]

It's toxic, though. No, he's not correct.

[Pat Gray]

Being a part of that is toxic. Yeah.

[Jeff Fisher]

Is it?

[Pat Gray]

No.

[Jeff Fisher]

No.

[Pat Gray]

I can't take it with these people.

[Jeff Fisher]

No. So the guy played football in high school and now is saying it's toxic.

[Pat Gray]

Toxic.

[Jeff Fisher]

Oh, come on. I mean, Michigan, this is not your guy.

[Pat Gray]

No.

[Jeff Fisher]

Please vote for Mike Rogers. This is not your guy. This Muslim socialist who thinks that football is toxic just because it's a masculine sport.

[Pat Gray]

You have to get up and not show pain. Yeah. That's the game, right?

[Jeff Fisher]

That's called being a man.

[Pat Gray]

All right. That's why we like the sport.

[Jeff Fisher]

You could play soccer and pretend like you're hurt. If somebody comes within five feet of you, you could do that.

[Pat Gray]

That's the game, you know?

[Jeff Fisher]

That's the game. Yeah. In soccer, that is the game. You could fall down and. And writhe in pain when nobody was even around.

[Pat Gray]

You kind of hurts to get the invisible kick to the shin. It hurts a lot.

[Jeff Fisher]

Or at least you pretend it does.

[Pat Gray]

I like soccer, so why I'm making fun of it, but.

[Jeff Fisher]

Ah, because it's a stupid kind of

[Pat Gray]

agonizing, the fake falls, though.

[Jeff Fisher]

Oh, very. And some of that has sort of entered into American football and basketball and baseball.

[Pat Gray]

It's entered into all.

[Jeff Fisher]

I don't like it.

[Interviewer/Host]

It.

[Jeff Fisher]

I don't like it. That's got to stop. Anybody who pretends to have an injury in football or even basketball, they're giving. Actually, you need to be suspended.

[Pat Gray]

Absolutely. They're giving a bad name to actual injuries.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

That should not be allowed. You're. You're 100%. You're 100% correct. That needs to happen.

[Jeff Fisher]

Thank you. We agree on scant few things, but on that we're.

[Pat Gray]

I mean, that is agonizing. It gives. It gives real injuries a bad name. Yeah, it does. And it should, because people do get hurt and actually hurt. And we shouldn't think, oh, is he faking? We shouldn't be thinking that.

[Jeff Fisher]

The fact that you even. That even crosses your mind in American football now, it's wrong. I know it's wrong.

[Pat Gray]

And it's all because of soccer.

[Jeff Fisher]

There's a couple of things that are really wrong right now. One is Mitch McConnell not showing himself to the American people. The other is faking injuries in football. They're equally bad and they both must stop.

[Pat Gray]

Amen.

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[Jeff Fisher]

Pat Graham. Jeff Fisher. For Glenn. For glenn. This week, triple eight, 727. Beck. Let's chew the fat. Now, Jeffy, just take a look at some of the news, some of the things that are going on and perhaps the lighter side.

[Pat Gray]

All right. Well, I mean, President Obama is hosting a new podcast focused on six books that have shaped his worldview.

[Jeff Fisher]

This is because every living organism has a podcast.

[Pat Gray]

The podcast a. A great book with Barack Obama. We'll see the former president sitting down with six luminaries to discuss the seminal novels. The book selections are the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and Fridge. Oh, no, I read that wrong. Oh, that's, that's not right.

[Advertiser/Host]

Right.

[Pat Gray]

The Fire Next Time by James Baldwin.

[Jeff Fisher]

Okay.

[Pat Gray]

Song of Solomon by Tony Morrison. All the Pretty horses by Cormac McCarthy. Gilead by Maryland. Marilyn Robinson and All the King's Men by Robert Penn. Robert Penn Warren and Tinker Taylor. Soldier Spy by John.

[Jeff Fisher]

That's supposed to be really good.

[Katie Miller]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

Marks the sixth release from Audible and the Obama's Higher ground after the two signed that first look deal. So it's just, they just have. They're just honoring a contract.

[Jeff Fisher]

What happened to that thing that they were doing with Netflix that they signed for $100 million? They did like one thing that nobody watched and then that was it. Was that the whole.

[Pat Gray]

I don't think nobody watched. I think they did.

[Jeff Fisher]

I don't think anybody watched. Nobody watched it.

[Pat Gray]

Okay. All right.

[Jeff Fisher]

I remember that distinctly. No one watched that.

[Pat Gray]

I don't think that's tr. True.

[Jeff Fisher]

But, but didn't they have like a long range, some kind of deal?

[Pat Gray]

Yeah. With the higher ground. And I'm not really sure. I mean, if you give the Obamas 100 million, you're. You're not going to take any of it back.

[Jeff Fisher]

No, that's right.

[Pat Gray]

I mean, they, that's. They ended up, you know, this is what they did with what's her face, Harry and Megan, you know, they had a deal with me. They never could get them to do anything.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

And so it was like, okay, well, we're done. Have a nice day. We love what you're doing. Do it over there. It's cute, but.

[Jeff Fisher]

So they just cut their losses.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah, yeah. If we. If we meet again somewhere doing something. We will.

[Jeff Fisher]

Then great.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah. But until then.

[Jeff Fisher]

So is it just six episodes? Does he talk about one book for. Yeah, one episode and then goes on to the next.

[Pat Gray]

Remember he did that other special podcast with Bruce Springsteen for a while too? And it's again, it's interesting that he's not doing it with the wife.

[Jeff Fisher]

Isn't it though?

[Pat Gray]

You know, Isn't it? It's very interesting that he's not doing it with the wife. I mean, she has her stupid podcast with her brother, not him. I can stand my husband. Oh, maybe that's why.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah. For like 10 years, I couldn't stand my husband.

[Pat Gray]

We should have the picture of them. The picture they posted with the story was Barack and Michelle together at the library. Yeah, they're. And they're together. This is the. One of the opening shots of the Barack Obama presidential library. And he's holding up his library card. So that must be some sort of form of identification.

[Jeff Fisher]

And look at the way she's looking at him right there. It's. I mean, it's. They don't look together. It's almost like, I can stand my husband. But at least we have that in common with her. We found one element of agreement with Michelle Obama. I couldn't stand on my neither. And I still can't. And I don't think she can either.

[Pat Gray]

Audible's happy to be with them and make it happen.

[Jeff Fisher]

Oh, good, good.

[Pat Gray]

Very happy.

[Jeff Fisher]

All right.

[Pat Gray]

The series represents everything they strive to be, of course. Over there at audible.

[Jeff Fisher]

Sure. So good.

[Pat Gray]

It's good for them. All right. Harry Potter fans have forced a new multi million pound, multi million dollar cable between the UK and Ireland to be relocated after complaining it would desecrate the grave of Dobby, the fictional elf. Oh, you remember Adobe Dobby. Yeah, Dobby. Is it Dobby?

[Jeff Fisher]

I think so, yeah.

[Guest/Caller]

All right.

[Jeff Fisher]

Whatever they call him, whatever they call it.

[Pat Gray]

Stupid elf. The character was laid to rest on freshwater west beach in Pen Brookshire, Wales. In the film Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, fans of the wizard series come to leave stones reading, here lies Dobby.

[Jeff Fisher]

Do they understand that it's not real?

[Pat Gray]

No, they don't.

[Jeff Fisher]

It's not real.

[Pat Gray]

They bring stones and they bring all kinds of people just to honor him. And, and they do that. They don't care that it was not their land or any of it.

[Jeff Fisher]

That is crazy.

[Pat Gray]

I mean, it was an ecological, ecological sensitive site that was. That it was there. And so they don't care. They still drop it off. So the 430 million euro Green Lake Interconnector which links the national grid to Ireland, that was just initially going to pass through that site of the grave. The project manager was like, well, the fans became aware of the plans after I was, after I pointed it out.

[Jeff Fisher]

Gotta be kidding.

[Pat Gray]

On a podcast. And then they ran it and we got hundreds of calls, calls. And he goes, I mean, hundreds of calls that said that. You don't know. He didn't even know who this, who the character was.

[Jeff Fisher]

The dobby burial site, you can't run through that.

[Pat Gray]

That's exactly.

[Jeff Fisher]

Come on.

[Pat Gray]

One of his colleagues said.

[Jeff Fisher]

Unbelievable.

[Pat Gray]

No, it's very, very serious. So they got new planners and they rerouted them.

[Jeff Fisher]

That's incredible. I mean I, I love Harry Potter. The whole, you know, the books, the movies, but please. I mean they had pretend and they didn't really happen and they, they had,

[Pat Gray]

they also had a, this Bronze Age place in the water there that has urns associated with human burial at this, at the site. So they had to put this pipeline or this wire between the two.

[Jeff Fisher]

Unbelievable. Seriously, how dumb are we? Well, as a civilization, that's incredible. Okay, I know, I know.

[Pat Gray]

In our daily look look at AI segment today, New Orleans, Louisiana has become the first major US city to publicly acknowledge the use of AI to help answer and triage certain 911 calls. It's a move that supporters say could reduce dispatcher overload and improve response times for life threatening emergencies, but which critics warn could introduce new risks into one of the most important public safety systems. Other cities are already reported using AI in this context. New Orleans is unhappy about how it was being reported. A report claiming New Orleans is replacing human911 operators with artificial intelligence is getting a lot of attention. But the agency overseeing emergency communications says the story is highly inaccurate and misrepresents how the technology is being used. And it comes from the Shreveport Times, which published a story saying New Orleans will use AI to answer 911 calls instead of humans. And they were mad about that. And the report focused on an AI tool called Carbine's AI Emergency Call Triage. Love them. Which can help identify when multiple people are calling about the same incident. In those cases, Callers may be able to get updates or information about an emergency that's already been reported, while calls about a separate emergency are sent to a human dispatcher. The article does note that the tool would not replace human dispatchers, but would be used to help identify duplicate calls and connect callers with the right information or response. So it does say what they said? It didn't say. The agency says it does use AI, but only in a very limited situation involving vehicle crashes. And that's. It's not replacing human operators. Okay, we use the. And here's the thing. They've been using it for, like, two years now, and it only comes into play when human call takers are busy and someone calls 911 from within about 200 meters of a crash. This is New Orleans. We're doing meters. I don't like it. No, I don't like it.

[Jeff Fisher]

It's creeping into our society.

[Pat Gray]

I just realized that from the Shreveport Timeline Times. Look, we don't like your city to begin with, right?

[Jeff Fisher]

Oh, my gosh, that's an understatement. But don't use the metric system.

[Pat Gray]

Stop it.

[Jeff Fisher]

This is America. We said no to it 50 years ago.

[Pat Gray]

Yes.

[Jeff Fisher]

No, thank you. It doesn't make any sense.

[Pat Gray]

I don't know who's running that Shreveport Times join over there, but this happens. Yeah, that has to stop. So they're. They're already using it, and they can provide information or updates of a caller's reporting on a different emergency. It's doing exactly what the article said. I don't know. They're just mad that they're finally being called out on it. The article was right. It just failed to mention that it's been going on for a couple of years already, and it has safeguards built in. So why don't you shut up? Everything is fine. The safeguards for AI are fine. Okay? Take care of everything.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah, right.

[Pat Gray]

Absolutely. Nothing could go wrong.

[Jeff Fisher]

So get off me.

[Pat Gray]

Thank you. Spotify has added a feature that allows users to skip through some podcast ads, potentially disrupting the industry's ad economy.

[Jeff Fisher]

Oh, boy.

[Pat Gray]

That is not good. And people are not happy about it. Spotify is terrifying much of the podcast industry with their tiny little widget. Last week, the audio streaming giant tweaked its streaming interface, adding a feature that allows some users to more effectively skip through parts of a podcast that no one wants, notably ads, as well as promotions and filler content, as long as they aren't sold directly by Spotify. Spotify cast the move as streamlining a feature that Already exists the 15 second skip button, which users in practice often used to bypass ads, but they can't work on Spotify ads. Duh. Tommy Victor, co founder of liberal podcast network Crooked Media. I love them. Put it more bluntly, very cool of Spotify to try and destroy the podcast industry. Several major other audio networks have reached out. They're unhappy with Spotify. Spotify also gave itself some room to back off the changes, reiterating that the skip button is an early testing phase as it continues soliciting feedback from podcast companies, publishers, users and advertisers. I would say use it before you lose it it because that is going away for sure. That is not going to stick around much longer. And we did finally reach a billion dollars. Tonight's drawing the jackpot drawing is $1 billion.

[Jeff Fisher]

What's the cash payout?

[Pat Gray]

433.1.

[Jeff Fisher]

So again, it's not even half. You don't even get half your money and then you get another 40% or more taken out in taxes.

[Pat Gray]

Oh, that's wrong. Why win it?

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah, why win it?

[Pat Gray]

What's the point?

[Jeff Fisher]

It's barely enough to get yourself lunch.

[Pat Gray]

What's the point? I mean, once it's all done, there's

[Jeff Fisher]

no point in it.

[Pat Gray]

You want 433.1 million and then they, they take out of that. Yeah, and then they're going to take out of that.

[Jeff Fisher]

You're going to be left with like $250 million and there's no.

[Pat Gray]

What are you doing with that?

[Jeff Fisher]

Hardly enough to even go to the bank with. You know, it's really despicable.

[Pat Gray]

Can't have that.

[Jeff Fisher]

All right.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah, that's a. That, that. There's a look. That's it. Please subscribe to the Tune the Fat with Jeff Fisher podcast, available wherever you get your podcast, you do it on Spotify. You can skip through the ads for now and you can HEAR the Daily Fat 5, Derek Pat Gray unleashed Daily 7 to 9 Eastern, right before this show, only on Blaze TV and Blaze Radio or, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Jeff Fisher]

Common sense is a fleeting quality in media, but around here it's standard practice.

[Pat Gray]

Hang tight. Glenn Beck returns next.

[Glenn Beck]

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[Jeff Fisher]

It's Pat and Jeffy for Glenn this week. Triple eight seven two seven. BECK Coming up in a few minutes. We got some things to share with you. There's, there are some concerns, I don't know if you've noticed, but there are some concerns our country is facing. One of them is if one of them is socialism.

[Pat Gray]

Yep.

[Jeff Fisher]

Another is the spread of Islam.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Jeff Fisher]

And I wouldn't be concerned about that if they didn't state their goal was.

[Pat Gray]

Which they do.

[Jeff Fisher]

Which they do. And they do it repeatedly and they're serious about it.

[Pat Gray]

Yes, they are. And they're actively taking over that.

[Jeff Fisher]

That is their goal and they've spelled it out. And eventually you're going to have to say, say, wow, I, maybe I should believe what they're telling me and maybe I should take some kind of action about it. I'm not sure what kind of action you're going to take, but it's an issue here. See, look what's happened in Dearborn, Michigan, around the country, Patterson, New Jersey, Plano, Texas. I mean, it's everywhere. And they state that their goal, we, we got sued by some Muslim broadcasters. They put out a podcast and they all sat around a table, this imam and several of his Islamic friends.

[Pat Gray]

Yep.

[Jeff Fisher]

And they were spelling out how they are doing a Sharia community.

[Pat Gray]

Sure were.

[Jeff Fisher]

And they laughed at us because we're so stupid they're using our own laws and rules against us.

[Pat Gray]

Right, Right.

[Jeff Fisher]

That's almost a word for word quote. In fact, they pick out prominent members of the community. They like for them to be white because they believe that's stereotypically who's in charge. I guess. I don't know what they're saying there. It would be a real surprise if you found out that they were, I don't know, bigots. But they, they hired prominent local people who are well respected in the community to fight their battle for them at city hall.

[Pat Gray]

Well, I think.

[Jeff Fisher]

And that's what they've do. That's what they've done. And it's been really effective. We're going to show you something that happened in Chicago this week that is flabbergasting. I mean, unreal, because it's everywhere. It's in Houston. They had some kind of. I think this was during Ramadan. I mean, they had. Oh, yeah, 30, 000 Muslims gather downtown Houston. Wait, downtown Houston, Texas. Okay. All right. Not that there's a problem with that. We all love to see our Muslim friends gathering together in a downtown area,

[Pat Gray]

in any downtown, and hear the call

[Jeff Fisher]

to prayer, because it's one of the most beautiful sounds any of us have ever heard, according to Barack Obama. But we're going to show you what happened in Chicago and get into what our governor, Greg Abbott is doing about it here in the state. We'll see that and lots more coming up.

[Glenn Beck]

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[Pat Gray]

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[Jeff Fisher]

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[Jeff Fisher]

Glenn Beck is on tacker and Jeff Fisher for Glenn this week. Great to have you with us. Thanks for being here. We're going to find out if you have a problem with something that's going on in America. Little Christian get together in Chicago. The person who. One of the people who was, I guess, responsible for putting it on.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah, but he was the one that started the gathering to come. Yeah.

[Jeff Fisher]

Shared an interesting little video of what they found when they got to the place that they had agreed upon meeting. We'll get into that. Is it an issue? I'll let you decide. But you know what? In one minute, we'll get into that. There's a strange thing that happens when the cost of living goes up. You start looking for little places to save money while some of the biggest expenses in your life are sitting there untouched. You cancel a subscription. Maybe you buy the cheaper groceries, maybe you put off a purchase for another month. Meanwhile, your credit cards are still charging you 20% interest. But if you own a home, American Financing wants you to look at the bigger number. The equity you've built up in your home may give you a way to consolidate that high interest credit card debt and dramatically reduce what you're obligated to pay every month. In fact, American Financing borrowers save an average of $800 a month and there's no, there's zero upfront fees. You may even be able to delay up to two mortgage payments. And timing matters because rates are currently in the fives with a really strong chance they could move a little bit higher than that next month. Zero upfront fees and you might even delay up to two mortgage payments. So lock in your lower rate rate right now before September arrives. Call today at 800-906-2440. That's 800-906-2440 or visit American Financing.net nmls182334nmlsconsumeraccess.org APR for rates in the five starts

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[Jeff Fisher]

Call 800-906-2440 for details about credit costs and terms. One of the problems that we've got happening right now just rise of socialism and the fact that our youth are so enamored with it, they just, they seem to love it because the perception is socialism takes care of the little guy.

[Pat Gray]

Right, right. You're right.

[Jeff Fisher]

You're not some big evil rich person that's stealing money from everybody else. No, these are the hard working people who are just just scraping by every month, month. And so they love that. And that's what they've been propagandized with their whole life in school.

[Pat Gray]

That's completely wrong. But yes, they have had it ramped on their face.

[Jeff Fisher]

So that's one of the issues that we have going on. And as a result of these issues, we got people like Francesco Wong Hong. I'm sorry.

[Pat Gray]

Yes, I know.

[Jeff Fisher]

I want to call her Francesca all the time, who was running for governor and she had a real shot at at least getting the Democrat nomination. There's a fascinating story about the guy who beat her because he dropped out of the race a while ago. He just, it dropped out and then he Started to consider, wait a minute, maybe I can win this thing.

[Pat Gray]

Started listening to her speak and what, you know. Yeah, probably smarter than that.

[Jeff Fisher]

She wants to eliminate police, prisons, like Thanksgiving, Senate, Thanksgiving, Christmas. She hates all those holidays.

[Pat Gray]

A bit of a cure, right?

[Jeff Fisher]

So anyway, this guy, Crawley Crowley, decided, you know what? I'm thinking about getting back in. And my wife and I prayed about it. He said, my wife, during the prayer, she said, God, I don't like subtlety, so make it very obvious if you want us to get back in the.

[Pat Gray]

I like that.

[Jeff Fisher]

And she actually asked to see a red bird. She was very specific about that. She wanted to see a red bird if they were supposed to get back into the race. But his wife was still saying at that point, they're not doing it. They're not gonna run again.

[Pat Gray]

She didn't want to do it.

[Jeff Fisher]

Then she saw a red bird. A cardinal flew into. I don't even know where it.

[Pat Gray]

Okay.

[Jeff Fisher]

Landed. But she saw the red bird.

[Pat Gray]

I am.

[Jeff Fisher]

And he got back into the race.

[Pat Gray]

More specific with my prayers.

[Jeff Fisher]

Right. I think that's. That's the point of this whole story. That's the moral of the story, if you will be specific in your prayers. But they saw the cardinal. So she told her husband, you should get back in. He did, and he won the Democrat nomination.

[Pat Gray]

I asked for a sign. I got it.

[Jeff Fisher]

Amazing. Amazing. Meanwhile, in a. In a state just east of there, there it was, a little gathering that was supposed to take place of some Christians. They were doing some rally. I guess they'd get together from time to time and march. I don't know. They're marching for Jesus, I guess.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Jeff Fisher]

So they got the word out, and it's interesting what happened as a result of that. Here's the guy who will tell you

[Pat Gray]

about it and make this up.

[Guest/Caller]

Guys, I am standing in the exact place where we are doing a Jesus march in one hour. And look who's here. A massive Muslims march. A massive Muslim. Muslim march where right now they're singing over Chicago. Muhammad is the only one. May Allah be lifted up. They're declaring that all Jews and all Christians would be removed from this city. I mean, this is. You know. You know, I've been talking about this over the last week, and yet here we are right in the middle of it.

[Jeff Fisher]

Here we are.

[Guest/Caller]

Our cities in our nation are being fought for in the spirit. I don't know if you need any more example than this right here. We didn't make this happen. We literally just walked up to the exact place where we're doing a Jesus march day in Chicago and there's a massive Muslim march where they have been declaring over the city. And you know what? The church in America is asleep. I've been saying it over the last week. This is a perfect example. The church in America is asleep. We need to wake up. Listen, this is not a marketing thing. I did not make this happen. We did not plan this. This is a God ordained moment for you guys around the world to see what's taking place. It's not just in Michigan, it's not just in New York. Right here in Chicago, a massive march is happening through the streets of the city where they are declaring that there is no God but Allah. They're declaring Muhammad is the, is the true prophet and they're literally threatening with verses of the Quran over Christians, over Jews, over everybody that will not comply. This is America. This is America. Guys, are you awake? Do you understand what is at stake here?

[Pat Gray]

I mean, it's party music being played.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah. According to Barack Obama, that's one of the most beautiful sounds in the world. So I don't know what your problem is. Look, what is your problem?

[Pat Gray]

Is that to call the prayer. Is that just a party song? I think that's just a party song.

[Jeff Fisher]

It's just a Muslim party song.

[Pat Gray]

Party song. All right.

[Jeff Fisher]

Beautiful though. Beautiful.

[Interviewer]

It's lovely.

[Jeff Fisher]

Okay, so he's concerned. Are you concerned? Triple eight, 727 Beck. And if you are concerned, what do we do about it? Yeah, that's the difficult issue is it sure is. What do you do about it? Because again, they've made themselves pretty clear about what they want and what they intend to make happen. And that's for Islam to be in every home in America and throughout the world for that matter.

[Pat Gray]

Right, right.

[Jeff Fisher]

You, you always think, well, if this is what you want, if what you want is Sharia law and an Islamic state, why don't you live in one? Because there are multiple Islamic states to choose from. There are, but that's not their point. The point is everybody must be. And not by choice necessarily. Now you can choose to convert or you, you can be killed. So you got that choice. You have that choice. How picky are you? You want a third choice or a fourth?

[Pat Gray]

You get two choices. That's it.

[Jeff Fisher]

You get two choices. So they're not taking away your choice. What's the matter with you?

[Pat Gray]

Right.

[Jeff Fisher]

So anyway, we've been discussing this on pac. Ray unleashed a bit over, over time and our, one of our producers, Chris, Chris Cruz decided to write to Governor

[Pat Gray]

Abbott about it since the show originates in Texas.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yes. And so he wrote. I'm a producer at Blaze Media. A lot of people who watch and listen to our show are growing increasingly concerned about the number of mosques and Islamic centers continuing to open across Texas. At last count, it was like 420 or something in Texas alone. They keep asking the same question I am. What is the state actually doing about this? Why does it feel like there is no real effort to slow or stop the expansion of these places and the influence that often comes with them? I genuinely like to know where your administration stands and what concrete steps, if any, are being taken. People are watching this closely and they're looking for real answers. Not silent, not silence. Appreciate your time. And then he signs it. So he got a message back that they're compiling an answer.

[Interviewer]

Answer.

[Advertiser/Host]

Oh.

[Jeff Fisher]

So I. I guess they're thinking about it and they're going to show what they have done, the. Some of the steps that they've taken.

[Pat Gray]

Okay.

[Jeff Fisher]

And where they plan to go from here.

[Pat Gray]

And they're going to do that when?

[Jeff Fisher]

By. Let's see. I think tomorrow. I think tomorrow. They promised him an answer on that tomorrow.

[Pat Gray]

And politicians always show up on time, so.

[Jeff Fisher]

Bam.

[Pat Gray]

In fact, it might even be in this inbox early.

[Jeff Fisher]

But it's a tough one because what do we. What do you do? We all say, okay, we need to wake up. Okay, now that we're awake, what action do we take, if any.

[Pat Gray]

I mean, I. I know my plan.

[Jeff Fisher]

What is your plan, Mr. Fisher?

[Pat Gray]

We begin with net zero. Immigration.

[Jeff Fisher]

Okay.

[Pat Gray]

We stop. We stop all immigration.

[Jeff Fisher]

All immigration.

[Pat Gray]

All of it.

[Jeff Fisher]

Nobody gets in legally or not all. And not just. You're not talking about all immigration. Not just Islamic nations either. You're talking about all nations. You don't care if they're coming from north.

[Pat Gray]

I don't wanna.

[Jeff Fisher]

Right.

[Pat Gray]

I don't want to be racist.

[Jeff Fisher]

Of course not.

[Pat Gray]

Or have any country be included. That should not be included. I want all of them to stop.

[Jeff Fisher]

Okay.

[Pat Gray]

Zero.

[Jeff Fisher]

So you can't even come here from Canada.

[Pat Gray]

Immigration.

[Jeff Fisher]

No. Immigrants. What about tourism? They come and visit it.

[Pat Gray]

We'll think about that.

[Jeff Fisher]

Okay.

[Pat Gray]

All right. You know, if you come to visit, we might have to put an ankle monitor on you. If you're a tourist, we'll put an ankle monitor on you and you can, you know.

[Jeff Fisher]

Okay.

[Pat Gray]

At least we know where you're. We have to know where you're at. We're working on that plan.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

All right. And then we need to reclassify Islam as a political entity. Not a religion.

[Jeff Fisher]

Wow.

[Pat Gray]

That will never happen. No, by the way, that will never happen. But that needs to happen. And because Islam, they've already stated their goal is to take over this country.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

Period. That's. Oh, we use the, we use their laws, their nice laws against them and we're going to just take it over. And they do. And we see it in, in effect all the time.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

Every day.

[Jeff Fisher]

And they, they another example of it in Chicago where they planned a Christian march and all these Muslims show up to, I guess, get in the face of the Christians who are going to

[Pat Gray]

show up or scare them away.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah. Something.

[Pat Gray]

I mean, we have the Michigan Attorney General, the Democrat Attorney General, Dana Nesso. She says she's not even going to go to the Democratic Convention in Michigan this year.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah. She's Jewish. Right.

[Pat Gray]

Just. Yeah. Because she doesn't feel safe.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah. Cut 11.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host]

I still will say I was very naive and I didn't think ever that this could happen in modern day United States of America. And, and it is. And I'm gonna make this statement. I'm not going to be attending the nominating convention for the Michigan Democratic Party in August. And that is because I don't feel safe going. I feel like my presence is not welcome. I don't want to get chased around. I don't want to get harassed. I don't want to get yelled and screamed at. I don't want to get booed off the stage, irrespective of what I'm saying.

[Guest/Caller]

Right.

[Interviewer/Host]

And I, I believe that if I go, that is what will happen. It's been happening to me.

[Jeff Fisher]

Ah, wow. So she's afraid to go to the Democrat convention in Michigan.

[Pat Gray]

Her own party, her own people.

[Jeff Fisher]

That's interesting because she's Jewish and she'll get harassed or, you know, there'll be some kind of violent act against her. She, whatever. She doesn't want to do it.

[Scott Jennings]

Right.

[Jeff Fisher]

That's, that's, that's unacceptable.

[Pat Gray]

Agreed. It's unacceptable in the United States of America. Absolutely unacceptable.

[Jeff Fisher]

So we'd love to know your thoughts. Triple eight, seven two seven. Beck. More coming up in one minute.

[Scott Jennings]

Minute.

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[Jeff Fisher]

It's Pat and Jeffy for Glenn this week. Triple eight seven two seven. BECK. So let's say we're awake as a nation and we understand that we're being threatened.

[Pat Gray]

Okay.

[Jeff Fisher]

And there's a takeover in process, at least according to some of the Muslims that we hear from on a pretty regular basis.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Jeff Fisher]

Like every day.

[Pat Gray]

I mean, they follow the same game plan wherever they go.

[Jeff Fisher]

And what, you know, peaceful Muslims will tell you is that that's not Islam in general. That's not all of us. That's a small fraction. But it's, you know, even a small fraction of 1 1/2 billion people or whatever the population, the Islamic population is right now. Now Even, you know, 10% of that is 150 million.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Jeff Fisher]

1% of that is 15 million. I mean, so there are some problems. There's some issues. What do we do about it? Thomas in North Carolina. Hi. You're on the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Jeff.

[Advertiser/Host]

Good morning.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

No, I've been hearing all this stuff

[Jeff Fisher]

about just, you know, the marches and everything else in North Carolina. I found out yesterday. But they're literally building a 150 foot statue of the Hindu God Murugan in Chatham County, North Carolina. Wow. 150 foot statue.

[Advertiser/Host]

Yes.

[Jeff Fisher]

Supposedly 190ft with its pedestal.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah, that's, that's the Hindu God, right?

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

That's the Indians. Yes.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yes. Wow.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah. That's separate. I mean, while it's kind of walking the same road.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

It's separate from what we were discussing, but yeah, that, yeah, that does seem to be an issue.

[Jeff Fisher]

Appreciate it. Thanks, Thomas. That's interesting.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Jeff Fisher]

I mean, apparently anybody who opposed it. Tough.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah. Really tough.

[Jeff Fisher]

You've been steamrolled. We're going to do it anyway.

[Pat Gray]

And we already know, you know, we already know here in the state of Texas, that Governor Abbott said that. That he's all for it there. I mean, he was all. I've seen the statues. All for the Indians, you know. In Texas. Yeah.

[Jeff Fisher]

Oh, interesting.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah. Cuz I mean, there's plenty of places in. In Texas that seem to have an overwhelming amount of Indian population.

[Jeff Fisher]

I've not noticed.

[Pat Gray]

Not the, not the Native American Indians,

[Jeff Fisher]

but you're just going to throw that out there out of the blue like that. And we have a number of immigrants in the state. I'm sure every state does, you know, not necessarily from India, but every. Everybody has people who have come here from other places and in most cases is really good as long as they assimilate. Yes.

[Pat Gray]

To assimilate into the culture of the United States.

[Jeff Fisher]

But that's too much to ask now.

[Pat Gray]

It is. And you know, earlier you mentioned about. They. They ask white people. And what about. You were saying. I'm not sure why that is. Well, I was listening to. I forget who was talking about it, but they made a great point in that the middle America white females and males for that extent, have been beaten down to feel bad about being white.

[Guest/Caller]

White.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah. So when the Islamic people come to them, they want to help because they feel bad about being. Being white.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

And while the African American community doesn't necessarily feel that way.

[Jeff Fisher]

Right, right. So they're a little more vocal about it.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Jeff Fisher]

A little more outspoken about it. Yeah. Meanwhile, whitey, all of us Caspers.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Jeff Fisher]

Kind of sit in the background and

[Pat Gray]

think, think, oh, yeah, we want to have.

[Jeff Fisher]

I don't want to be hateful. I don't want to be a race.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Jeff Fisher]

I. I don't want to be an Islamophobe. They. I mean, that has been an effective tool.

[Pat Gray]

It has.

[Jeff Fisher]

They've used a very effective tool for a long time, but it's been even more prevalent lately. And so you just get beaten down with that stuff and don't none of us want to be called a racist or a bigot or an Islamophobe. And I don't. The vast majority of us aren't. But then we wind up saying nothing and doing nothing, and then you regret the results of that.

[Pat Gray]

Right. And you know, that's. And that's the game plan that a lot of the Islamic community has used against us.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah. And in that podcast that we were referencing before that they sued us over playing. We just wanted to share their message with everybody. I don't know why they were upset. Yeah. You said it. That that's what they kind of talk about is using our own culture against us, using our own laws and rules.

[Pat Gray]

And isn't that great how we're doing that? And then we're, we've got our new, our whole new community set up here. And you don't have to be, of course, obviously you don't have to be Muslim to live in our community, but,

[Jeff Fisher]

but you're going to be paying the tax that goes to the mosque. And so a lot of Christians don't want to support that for some reason and they wind up with what they want. Yeah, it's, it's a tough.

[Pat Gray]

It is. It's a tough to see what the governor Abbott's people are compiling.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah, me too. Me too. We'll let you know when we find find out.

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[Jeff Fisher]

Jeff Fisher in for Glenn this week. Triple 8, 727. Beck. Marco Rubio sat down with Katie Miller, Marco and his wife to discuss quite a few things.

[Pat Gray]

He's not running for president? No, he's not running for president.

[Jeff Fisher]

He always has his wife with him on interview.

[Pat Gray]

Sit down for an interview with the woman.

[Jeff Fisher]

Come on. So this is completely ordinary.

[Pat Gray]

This happened, she was in town.

[Jeff Fisher]

Of course he's going to run for president. Well, I'm not sure that's a given. Because of J.D. vance. I don't know if the two of them got A working deal or something. You run this time, I'll run next. I don't know how that's going to work.

[Pat Gray]

I don't know how that's going to work. I mean, Marco wanted, you know, time before. Right. When he was little. Marco.

[Jeff Fisher]

They'd make a really strong team, though.

[Pat Gray]

Oh, my God.

[Jeff Fisher]

One of them the head of the ticket, the other the vice president, who wants to be.

[Guest/Caller]

Wow.

[Pat Gray]

Does JD want to be vice president again?

[Jeff Fisher]

No, I. I'm guessing neither of them want to, but it's especially true, probably for jd. He's not going to be vice president. Somebody else. That would be silly. And I think that would be counterproductive to his political career.

[Pat Gray]

Right.

[Jeff Fisher]

The next step is the presidency. Right.

[Pat Gray]

Or go back to Ohio or be done. Right, Right.

[Jeff Fisher]

Just go on the speaking tour and make $400,000 an hour. Just give it a speech.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah. The wife could just hang out for a while. Yeah.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah. But Marco had some interesting things to say. He was asked about a conspiracy theory that he actually believes.

[Interviewer/Host]

What's a conspiracy theory that you believe in? I'm asking both of you.

[Katie Miller]

A conspiracy theory that I believe in.

[Advertiser/Host]

Why?

[Interviewer]

Don't.

[Katie Miller]

Okay, it's not a conspiracy theory. Okay.

[Pat Gray]

Don't answer it.

[Katie Miller]

But I have long been on this UAP thing, and. And now, you know, I've sort of surrendered that portfolio to someone else who, you know, well, who's very much in charge of the UAP issue. Just be. Again, it's not. What I say is, I don't know who it is. I don't know what it is, but there are things flying over a military installation, and they're not ours, and we should look into this, be serious about it. And I did that for a long time in the Senate, and it had two benefits. The first is that obviously it's a legitimate topic. And the second is whatever the news of the day was, it was controversial. And a reporter comes up to you, and you say to them, look, I don't have time for these questions about politics. Do you realize there's things flying over airspace? You know, we don't know what they are. And the reporter's like, oh, what do you know? Tell me more. So it was extraordinarily effective as a diversionary tactic. In addition to. Not that said, it's also a very legitimate topic that we should be covering. So I don't call it a conspiracy. I don't know if I. I don't know the answer to any of it. I'm just, you know, asking the questions about you know, we should know what's flying airspace. But I don't think that's a conspiracy theory as much as it is just. It can be in some sense, because people do believe we're covering something up. And I assure you, like, in this administration, if we knew, like, the president would be all over, like, there would be, you know, prime time address, he wouldn't, you know, he'd be showing the pictures and the videos. But, you know, Stephen's on that case now, and I think he's doing a great job.

[Jeff Fisher]

Is that true that he doesn't know exactly what they are? It's hard to believe in the highest levels of our government. Somebody's got to know, right? It just. It doesn't make sense to me that none of them. The President doesn't know, The Secretary of State doesn't know, the vice president. Nobody knows.

[Pat Gray]

Nobody knows.

[Jeff Fisher]

Somebody must know.

[Pat Gray]

If we do, we'd tell you.

[Jeff Fisher]

Sure, of course. Oh, that goes without saying that you'd be totally transparent with the American people.

[Pat Gray]

If I knew.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yes. But obviously I don't. I don't know that I believe any of that.

[Pat Gray]

I don't know either. And we didn't get to hear what the wife's answer was. No, because she asked both of them. Now, maybe, you know, Marco told her to pipe down, but I don't think so. I don't think so either.

[Jeff Fisher]

I don't think so. Based on this next question that she helps Marco with adopted RFK's diet of red meat and fermented.

[Katie Miller]

No, this is a crazy diet. This is a diet that consists of eating sauerkraut and meat. You understand? Like, this is not a sustainable thing. Like, you can't just walk into it.

[Jeff Fisher]

Well, he sustains it, because he does.

[Katie Miller]

Can you imagine he has to travel with coolers of sauerkraut. I'm not gonna travel the world with a cooler full of sauerkraut.

[Jeff Fisher]

It's ridiculous.

[Katie Miller]

I can't do it. It's not sustainable.

[Interviewer/Host]

Are you mopping Maha?

[Katie Miller]

I'm in favor of Maha. Like, I think people should be healthy. He is not.

[Jeff Fisher]

But I think ultimately he is completely not.

[Interviewer/Host]

What to eat Pop Tarts?

[Katie Miller]

No, I don't eat Pop Tarts every day.

[Jeff Fisher]

Okay, you eat sweets.

[Katie Miller]

The Pop Tart is one of the great American innovations in the history of the world. If you think about all the things

[Interviewer/Host]

you should not be eating, every single thing.

[Jeff Fisher]

Oh, that's why you don't have your wife with you.

[Pat Gray]

Pipe down.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah, yeah. Ahead of time. Or just not including her in the room. Because that's what's gonna happen.

[Interviewer/Host]

No, he eats everything.

[Jeff Fisher]

He eats Pop Tarts.

[Pat Gray]

Okay. And that way he follows Maha, not the stuff that he eats. Okay, so great. That's why I travel the world without you.

[Jeff Fisher]

Exactly. Right, exactly. Because that's what the wife's gonna do for you.

[Pat Gray]

How about I travel with a cooler, a sauerkraut around the world. You just make sure that I have freshly made sauerkraut ready to go from the house. Okay. Oh, that stuff is so nasty.

[Jeff Fisher]

Oh, it is. Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

I was forced to smell that being baked and cooked him when I was a little kid. Oh, it's terrible.

[Jeff Fisher]

No, thank you.

[Pat Gray]

Just terrible.

[Jeff Fisher]

But that's always fun to have the wife jump in like that and change your answer, modify your answer idea.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, of course.

[Pat Gray]

He's not ma. He's not ma. He's anything. Oh, that's so good. Unbelievable. Yeah, but he's definitely running. He's ready for something. Come on now. I don't remember, to be honest. I. I mean, I don't remember Marco ever having his wife with him.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah. I've never seen it before. I. I don't. I haven't seen her that often, but I've never seen them together like that.

[Pat Gray]

I don't remember that I've ever seen that.

[Jeff Fisher]

That. Which leads you to believe he's going to run for president. Yeah, because you start breaking out the family and showing now.

[Pat Gray]

Right. So she was, you know, they had the kids and where she stayed home and raised them and did her womanly thing, which is what she was supposed to do, and. Well, Marco was out there. No problem.

[Jeff Fisher]

Okay, where do you. Where do you address the comments on that last.

[Pat Gray]

I'm sorry, by you doing the fat@blaze media.com. yeah, email me there.

[Jeff Fisher]

I wash my hands completely. Of what? Everything he said. Not just today, but anytime.

[Pat Gray]

Anytime ever.

[Jeff Fisher]

Anytime. Oh, yeah.

[Pat Gray]

I thought we agreed on something earlier.

[Jeff Fisher]

No, it was one thing.

[Pat Gray]

And took it back.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah, I take it back.

[Pat Gray]

But I honestly, I don't remember him ever being with her.

[Jeff Fisher]

No, I've. I don't think I've ever seen it. But yes, again, I think it's a pretty good indicator of what's to come. And that's. Yeah, it's going to be really interesting once 20, 28 rolls around to see who's jumped into this race and who hasn't.

[Pat Gray]

Sure is.

[Jeff Fisher]

We've got a really strong bench that the Democrats do not have. There's nobody who's really prominent in the Democrat Party, and we've talked about this a little bit before. I think it's going to be somebody out of the blue like a John Ossoff off for the Democrats.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Jeff Fisher]

And you start to see him becoming much more prevalent. But the Republicans have a really strong bench. It's going to be tough to decide which one should be the head of the ticket.

[Pat Gray]

Look, that could be the problem in and of itself.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

Splitting votes just off, just off the top of your head. JD, Marco and Ron DeSantis. And Ron DeSantis. There's your top three right there.

[Jeff Fisher]

Right.

[Pat Gray]

And who else?

[Jeff Fisher]

None of you don't need any of those.

[Pat Gray]

No, you don't. But none of those guys are going to want to be a number two.

[Jeff Fisher]

No, that's true. Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

I mean, they're all in line to step in to be number one. If they step in line. Right. So who is the, who are the, who are the two that say, okay, I'll wait? I mean, okay, you go ahead, you run.

[Jeff Fisher]

I'll maybe. Well, JD's only, what, 43. 42. 43.

[Pat Gray]

I don't know.

[Jeff Fisher]

It's really young. So if anybody's going to wait their turn, you'd probably want it to be J.D. vance.

[Pat Gray]

And he's not going to want to do that.

[Jeff Fisher]

I don't think he wants to do that.

[Pat Gray]

I mean, if there's ever a time, now is it for him. I mean, you, I guess you make the case that he could wait. But I, I don't see that for, you know, I don't see that practically for anyone really.

[Jeff Fisher]

No. Because he's perfectly positioned.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

President.

[Jeff Fisher]

Because the vice president always runs for me.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Jeff Fisher]

And so he'd be the next in line. So I don't know. It'll be interesting to see. See over time.

[Pat Gray]

And does Marco say, no, you know what? Just make sure that I'm a State Department and I mean, does he want a gallivant all over the world for the next four to eight years? I don't think so.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah, I don't think so.

[Pat Gray]

I mean, that's a tough job.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah. And he's done what, a thousand jobs?

[Pat Gray]

Right.

[Jeff Fisher]

He's also the leader of Venezuela, Right.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Jeff Fisher]

He's got a lot on his plate.

[Pat Gray]

Got all kinds of jobs. Jobs.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

Some real and some not, but he's done them.

[Jeff Fisher]

Speaking of number two, Kamala Harris has been out speaking. She's been out on the speaking tour as well.

[Pat Gray]

And what is crazy, for some reason

[Jeff Fisher]

she just did this video about the Save, Save America act. And I just. The lengths that the Democrats go to. To lie about the SAVE Act.

[Pat Gray]

It's been. It's been. Been fun. I mean, it's been fun. It's been agonizing to watch, actually.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

Because they just continue to lie and people believe it.

[Jeff Fisher]

Here's what she said this week.

[Interviewer/Host]

Hey, everybody. So they're trying to mess with your ability to vote. Just to break it all down, you've got the Supreme Court. They just sealed the deal with this case that just came up recently, the Calais decision, which basically took the power out of the Voting Rights act, which was designed to protect. Protect your right to vote.

[Jeff Fisher]

That's untrue. Okay? Surprisingly untrue. Wait, what?

[Pat Gray]

What?

[Jeff Fisher]

Kamala Harris said something that's not true. You know what the Cay act was?

[Advertiser/Host]

It was.

[Jeff Fisher]

The Supreme Court ruled that Louisiana didn't have to establish a black majority district in Louisiana. In District 2, it didn't have to be majority black. That's what you're talking about as. Yes, they can all still vote in that district. We just don't have to make the. The minorities white people in that area.

[Pat Gray]

Right.

[Jeff Fisher]

They didn't have to create a specifically black district.

[Pat Gray]

But that did lead to a firestorm of, you know, states, you know, rearranging their.

[Jeff Fisher]

Their.

[Pat Gray]

Their districts.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yes. I'm not sure that's what led to it, but that was part of that whole fight. But that is so disingenuous and so ridiculous. And of course, then you got to talk about the SAVE Act.

[Interviewer/Host]

So you got the Supreme Court doing its thing.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Jeff Fisher]

Then come on.

[Interviewer/Host]

This president is trying to push this SAVE act, which basically would require that for people to register to vote. You're gonna have to have proof.

[Jeff Fisher]

No, wait. I have to prove who I am, that I'm an American citizen. What kind of outrage. Age is this? What. What is this?

[Pat Gray]

If they have identification to prove that you are who you are and that you're a citizen.

[Jeff Fisher]

Is this Genghis Khan's Mongolia? Where am I right now? Did I take a left turn and wind up in communist China? How dare you ask me to show who I am of who you are

[Interviewer/Host]

through a passport, which a lot of Americans don't have, or a birth certificate. It same point obstacles to make it difficult for you to register.

[Jeff Fisher]

You notice how they. They avoid driver's licenses because they can't go there. I mean, when you go and get your driver's license in order to have that check mark on it like Texas does, and we've had that for, I don't know, 10 or 15 years, the Star or Something. Uhhuh. That shows that it's official, that it's federal and whatever. That's all you have to get get is a driver's license that's official like that. In order, in order to get that we, almost everybody has one. Now you do have to produce a birth certificate or, you know, some form of proof that you are who you say you are. Now, should voting be absolutely effortless? I don't think so.

[Pat Gray]

I mean if you have to go

[Jeff Fisher]

through, you know, you got to jump through some hoop to get there. So what you're voting and the states

[Pat Gray]

who, A number of the states who have said that we've got, you know, we have id. Well you really not. You don't. Because you can.

[Jeff Fisher]

There's ways around it.

[Pat Gray]

Yes.

[Jeff Fisher]

Like Virginia.

[Pat Gray]

Yes.

[Jeff Fisher]

Who was it that was being interviewed about that? I don't remember. But he, he cited Virginia as an example and was.

[Pat Gray]

Oh yeah, right there.

[Jeff Fisher]

No, you really don't have to.

[Pat Gray]

That's not really true.

[Jeff Fisher]

True. No, but most states already have. If you got a driver's license, it has a star on it, you can vote. It's just not that difficult.

[Pat Gray]

It really isn't. I mean when I changed my license from Florida to Texas, I, I went to the. I had to go. I did have to go.

[Jeff Fisher]

Don't tell me you had to leave the house. You had to leave the house to

[Pat Gray]

go to the dmv.

[Jeff Fisher]

How did you get. Did you walk uphill?

[Pat Gray]

No.

[Jeff Fisher]

In both directions in the driving snow. First of all, no Hurricane Velo City wins. It must have been what, 48, 50 below zero when you went. What kind of dastardly state would put you through that?

[Pat Gray]

Texas.

[Jeff Fisher]

You did have to leave this. You had to leave the house.

[Pat Gray]

I did have to leave the house and I went to the dmv and that's inconvenient.

[Jeff Fisher]

You should never be improving insurance papers.

[Pat Gray]

And I did bring a copy of my birth certificate which I did need because since I was still had an in date license from another state. Texas though is fine.

[Jeff Fisher]

So you're one of like four people in the country who has a copy of a birth certificate? Well, is that what you're asking us to believe now? Wow, that's hard to believe. All right, triple eight, seven, two, seven back. More coming.

[Pat Gray]

Glenn.

[Jeff Fisher]

Becky, Foreign.

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[Jeff Fisher]

Pat Jeffy for Glenn. Hey, make sure that you join us for Pac Ray Unleashed. We're live on the Blaze Radio and TV networks from 6 to 8 Central.

[Pat Gray]

Central. That's correct.

[Jeff Fisher]

7 to 9 Eastern. Or you can check us out anytime, wherever you get your podcast. And that applies to chewing the fat.

[Pat Gray]

Absolutely available podcast. And it applies to this program.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yep.

[Pat Gray]

And then that program.

[Jeff Fisher]

We will see you right back here. Here tomorrow to fix whatever else we weren't able to fix today. Pretty much solved most of these issues though.

[Pat Gray]

We did. It's wonderful. And hopefully the Iran conflict will be fixed by then.

[Jeff Fisher]

Yeah, I'm sure.

[Pat Gray]

You sure? Our oil reserves are getting a little low.

[Jeff Fisher]

Oh, under 300 million.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah, yeah, it's okay.

[Jeff Fisher]

Lowest since 83.

[Pat Gray]

I believe that was the number. I read. Yeah. So.

[Jeff Fisher]

All right, see you back here tomorrow.