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The Glenn Beck Program
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Episode: Did the Democrat Party Just Endorse Political Violence? | Guests: Joseph Edlow & Bruce Gilley
Date: October 6, 2025

Episode Overview

This episode of The Glenn Beck Program delves into deep concerns about political violence in America, focusing particularly on recent incidents involving Democratic politicians allegedly endorsing or tolerating extremist rhetoric. Glenn Beck explores the cultural and political climate leading to increased lawlessness, the role of politicians and media in escalating tensions, and the importance of upholding constitutional principles amidst crises. He brings on Joseph Edlow, Director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), to discuss immigration fraud, and Professor Bruce Gilley of Portland State University to debunk narratives surrounding the origins and prevalence of political violence in America.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening & Setting the Stage

• Glenn opens with concerns about violent rhetoric from Democratic candidates in Virginia—specifically an Attorney General candidate wishing harm upon his opponent's family and a gubernatorial candidate refusing to denounce such statements.
• He frames these events within a broader breakdown of law and order, referencing attacks on ICE agents and lawlessness in cities like Portland and Chicago.
• Beck raises existential questions about viewers’ shifting stances on controversial issues over the past 25 years, highlighting the "ends justify the means" mentality as inherently dangerous.
• Quote:

  "There are those who wish to destroy Western civilization... We are talking about people who actually wish to destroy our nation and our civilization." (Glenn Beck, 06:15)

2. Law, Order, and the Constitution

• Beck draws a historical parallel to Abraham Lincoln, noting America is being "tested" on whether a government "of, by, and for the people" can endure.
• He discusses federal authority (Insurrection Act, Posse Comitatus) and the dangers in normalizing soldiers as street police.
• Beck warns of two threats to the Republic:
  • Intimidation of federal officers and lawlessness.
  • Normalizing militarization of law enforcement.
• Quote:

  “The Republic fails if we accept either of those. So those of you on the left who, who say we're not going to help the feds, you cannot intimidate federal officers or shut down federal enforcement. That's lawlessness... Only the Constitution will give us the way out.” (Glenn Beck, 21:10)

3. Interview: Joseph Edlow, USCIS Director

[26:35–36:45]

Key Topics

• Immigration and Marriage Fraud:
  • Edlow details widespread, sophisticated fraud uncovered in Minneapolis—ranging from fake marriages, forged death certificates, misuse of student and skilled worker visa programs, and organized fraud rings.
  • The aim is to restore integrity in the immigration system and launch a "war" on such fraud.
  • Significant cooperation with FBI, ICE, and prosecutors noted; pushback encountered from community members and media.
• Enforcement and Hiring:
  • USCIS launching a national campaign to hire “Homeland Defenders” (no college required) to investigate and adjudicate fraud cases.
  • Edlow emphasizes this is not about stopping immigration, but ensuring “the right people” are admitted legally.

Notable Quotes

• On Pattern of Fraud:

  "Bottom line is this has to stop. As I said in the conference, we are declaring an all out war on marriage fraud, on immigration fraud and I'm going to restore integrity to the system." (Joseph Edlow, 28:31)

• On Enforcement Pushback:

  "Minneapolis police isn't exactly helpful...I think if you saw any part of my press conference with the questions that I got from the media out there, yeah, there was a lot of pushback as to why we're doing it." (Joseph Edlow, 29:53)

• On Mission:

  "Fraud will not be accepted any longer." (Joseph Edlow, 36:45)

4. Escalating Political Rhetoric in Virginia

[40:37–48:02, 45:53, 73:29–83:18]

• Detailed breakdown of Jay Jones, Democratic AG candidate, who in text messages repeatedly fantasized about killing a political opponent and his family.
  • When pressed to stop, Jones allegedly doubled down, invoking the idea that only personal pain changes people’s politics.
  • His gubernatorial running mate, Abigail Spanberger, has refused to condemning such rhetoric, instead telling supporters: “Let your rage fuel you.”
• Beck equates this to terrorism and warns such rhetoric may lead to real violence, drawing historical analogies to Nazi Germany and 9/11.
• Quote:

  "If Virginia make that mistake, when there's bodies in your streets, I guess you will come to me and say, how did you know?... Somebody says those things, you take them seriously every single time. You must." (Glenn Beck, 48:02)

• Conservative principles, Beck argues, require absolute rejection of violence as a political tool, regardless of party.

5. The Dangers of Civil War and Division

[53:50–67:53]

• Beck powerfully cautions against the cavalier discussions of "national divorce" or civil war in political and social discourse.
• He traces, blow by blow, what a real civil breakdown would mean for everyday Americans—bank failures, supply shortages, terror at the community level, and irreversible loss of peace and normalcy.
• Calls for muscular peacemaking—building cross-community alliances and rejecting any advocacy for political violence.
• Quote:

  "Turn down the algorithm and turn up the conversation... You must get serious about peace. Not the sentimental kind, the muscular kind." (Glenn Beck, 63:00)

6. Jordan Peterson Health Update

[68:20–71:39]

• Tearful update from Peterson’s daughter describing his struggle with serious illness, ICU stay, and spiritual adversity.
• Beck uses this moment to invoke the necessity of prayer and to highlight a sense of spiritual warfare afflicting prominent conservative voices.

7. Spanberger's Background: The ISA and Controversy

[73:29–78:37]

• Discussion surfaces about Abigail Spanberger's tenure at the Islamic Saudi Academy (ISA), a Virginia school reportedly linked to radicalism and funded by Saudi Arabia.
• Beck and Stu question the wisdom of teaching at such an institution post-9/11, examine its alleged ties to Hamas, and express concern about her refusal to sharply distance herself from Jones’ rhetoric.

8. Political Trends and Prospects in Virginia

[79:21–83:18]

• With reference to Portland’s socialist governance as a warning, Beck laments that Virginia may soon “elect” leaders with dangerous priorities, despite recent Republican success under Youngkin.
• Market betting on Spanberger to win, despite the controversies, and Jay Jones’ support dropping but remaining viable.

9. Equal Justice and the Comey Indictment Debate

[87:03–106:50]

• Beck critiques media outrage over the indictment and “perp walk” of former FBI Director James Comey, accused of lying to Congress and obstructing a proceeding.
• Beck insists this is not about vengeance or payback, but about enforcing one rule of law, citing similar treatment of Trumpworld figures.
• Quote:

  "If we mean what we say about equal justice, then James Comey's arrest and a fair trial are not radical. This is not busting up the Constitution. This is required under the Constitution." (Glenn Beck, 89:13)

• Beck cautions against unequal application of law, whether for political friends or enemies.

10. Interview: Bruce Gilley, Portland State University

[110:12–124:35]

Key Topics

• Debunking the Narrative of “Right-Wing Political Violence”:
  • Gilley asserts political violence is more endemic to left-wing movements, historically and presently.
  • He describes how databases systematically undercount left-wing violence (by omitting BLM riots, targeted police assassinations, etc.) and overcount right-wing violence (by coding non-political or disturbed individuals as “right-wing”).
  • According to Gilley, if coded transparently and accurately, data would reveal left-wing violence at 70% or far higher, especially if Islamic terrorism is included.

Notable Quotes

• On DNA of Political Violence:

  "Political violence is part of the DNA of the left, and it's never been part of the DNA of the right." (Bruce Gilley, 110:30)

• On Data Manipulation:

  "All the BLM rioters are excluded. All the targeted assassinations of police... None of that." (Bruce Gilley, 113:55)

• On Inclusion of Islamic Terror:

  "Once you do that [include Islamic terrorism], the data will show roughly 95% of political violence in this country comes from the left." (Bruce Gilley, 121:30)

11. Closing Thoughts

• Beck reiterates the importance of rejecting all forms of political violence and upholding the principles of the Constitution.
• Listeners are urged to pray for leaders, seek peace, and resist tribalism and rage that could lead the U.S. further down a dangerous path.

Notable Moments & Quotes with Timestamps

• [06:15] Glenn Beck: “There are those who wish to destroy Western civilization…”
• [21:10] Glenn Beck: “The Republic fails if we accept either [lawlessness or militarization].”
• [28:31] Joseph Edlow: “We are declaring an all out war on marriage fraud, on immigration fraud and I'm going to restore integrity to the system.”
• [45:53] Glenn Beck: “He has said in an unbelievable text thread that he felt one of his political enemies, his wife, and his children should be killed… That is the definition of terrorism.”
• [63:00] Glenn Beck: “Turn down the algorithm and turn up the conversation… You must get serious about peace.”
• [68:34] Jordan Peterson’s Daughter: Heartfelt health update for Jordan Peterson
• [87:03] Glenn Beck: "This is not busting up the Constitution. This is required under the Constitution."
• [110:30] Bruce Gilley: "Political violence is part of the DNA of the left, and it's never been part of the DNA of the right."
• [113:55] Bruce Gilley: "All the BLM rioters are excluded. All the targeted assassinations of police... None of that."
• [121:30] Bruce Gilley: "Once you do that [include Islamic terrorism], the data will show roughly 95% of political violence in this country comes from the left."

Key Segments & Timestamps

• 02:41 – 06:00: Introduction, stances on extremism and lawlessness
• 26:35 – 36:45: Interview with Joseph Edlow on immigration fraud
• 40:37 – 48:02: Virginia Democratic AG/ Governor controversies and political violence
• 53:50 – 67:53: Civil War warning, dangers of division in America
• 68:34 – 71:39: Jordan Peterson health crisis update (family statement)
• 73:29 – 83:18: Abigail Spanberger’s background & Virginia's political future
• 87:03 – 106:50: Beck discusses Comey indictment, law, and equal justice
• 110:12 – 124:35: Interview with Bruce Gilley on political violence and data fabrication

Tone & Takeaways

• The tone is urgent, at times dire, yet professes a commitment to constitutional and moral principles.
• Beck repeatedly warns against tribalism, the escalation of rhetoric, and collective amnesia regarding basic civility and legality.
• Interviews are direct, factual, and reinforce themes of institutional failure and the need for active, honest citizenship.

For Listeners

This episode is essential if you want to understand the current conservative perspective on political violence, the risks of departing from constitutional order, and the ways in which elite and media narratives may be shaping — or distorting — public understanding of law, order, and justice.