Did the FBI Bury the Truth About Thomas Crooks? | Guest: Michael Iskander | 11/14/25

Summary

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The Glenn Beck Program — November 14, 2025

Episode Overview

In this episode of The Glenn Beck Program, Glenn and his co-hosts Stu Burguiere and Michael Iskender unpack breaking information regarding the FBI’s handling of Thomas Crooks, the would-be assassin of Donald Trump. They analyze recent reporting—primarily from Tucker Carlson—alleging inconsistencies, cover-ups, and a deeper “deep state” narrative regarding Crooks’ political motives and digital history. The episode pivots to related broader issues: government surveillance, digital IDs, the importance of nuanced conservative debate, historical lessons from Dietrich Bonhoeffer, and an interview with Michael Iskender, star of "House of David." The tone is urgent, philosophical, and deeply skeptical of government transparency and media narratives.

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The FBI, Thomas Crooks, and the Narrative Collapse

[03:23 - 20:59]

Main Discussion Points

• The Narrative Manipulation:
  Glenn introduces new revelations recently released by Tucker Carlson about Thomas Crooks, the would-be assassin of Donald Trump, emphasizing the apparent inconsistencies between official claims and Crooks' actual online history.

  • "From day one, the FBI and their cheerleaders in the mainstream media... all pushed one storyline. Crooks was pro Trump, anti immigration, a fringe right winger radicalized by MAGA memes. Remember that?" — Glenn Beck, [06:18]
  • Glenn points out that while public was told Crooks had "no online footprint," in fact he had an active presence on Discord, Snapchat, and particularly YouTube, where his comment history was both extensive and violent.

• Timeline of Crooks’ Online Activity:

  • 2019: Crooks made violent comments directed at Democrats and anti-Trump figures.
  • 2020: His online persona flipped dramatically to being violently anti-Trump and anti-Trump supporters, yet no authorities appeared to notice or intervene.
  • "We were told over and over again he had almost no online footprint... apparently there's a very large footprint." — Glenn Beck, [07:14]

• Suspicious Online Interactions:

  • An enigmatic figure, “Willie Teps”, enters Crooks’ digital world, encouraging Crooks’ violent tendencies. This persona appears linked to a Swedish National Socialist forum, yet draws no scrutiny from intelligence agencies.
  • Glenn questions: "Why was this FBI monitoring, you know, Catholic churches and priests, but nothing on Thomas Matthews Crooks? Why?” [09:59]

• Alarming Search History:

  • In the run-up to the assassination attempt, Crooks’ YouTube searches escalate: “Trump” hundreds of times, Jack Ruby, bomb-making, assassination methods, how to evade police—“all of these things should ring every NSA alarm bell. Nothing. Again, nothing. Not then, not during the attempt, not afterward…” [10:57]

• Post-attack Coverup Allegations:

  • According to Beck (summarizing Carlson’s findings), the FBI promptly cremated Crooks’ body, scrubbed the crime scene, and withheld the complete story of his online history.
  • The core question:
    "Why would our government, the same government that monitors everything, suddenly become blind, deaf and mute the moment a presidential assassin emerges on their radar?" — Glenn Beck, [20:59]

Notable Quotes

• “When every accident points the same way, it stops looking like an accident.” — Glenn Beck, [18:32]
• "They're either lying, they're incompetent, or they only monitor the people they want to monitor. None of these options should help us sleep at night." — Glenn Beck, [21:49]

Key Questions Raised by Glenn

• Why report only the pro-Trump phase, hiding Crooks’ later anti-Trump violence?
• Why no law enforcement action when similar online threats (even memes) led to arrests?
• Why was there a lack of digital evidence preservation and transparency?
• Why did both “Trump’s FBI” and “Biden’s FBI” appear aligned in narrative and concealment?

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Government Control, Digital Surveillance, and Digital ID

[88:00 - 99:50]

Main Discussion Points

• Apple’s New Digital ID:

  • Glenn and Stu express deep skepticism and alarm at Apple’s launch of a U.S. digital ID system (now live at 250+ airports).
  • They explain how such digital tracking mechanisms can be the building blocks of authoritarian control, referencing China and European Union ambitions as examples.

• Historical Parallels:

  • Glenn compares the digital ID system to the punch card system IBM provided Nazi Germany, enabling highly efficient tracking and persecution.
  • "There wouldn't be a Jew alive on the planet if we had digital IDs [in WWII]. Not a chance." — Glenn Beck, [95:32]

• Philosophy of Liberty:

  • They argue that even “convenience” features are dangerous if government structures are drifting toward authoritarianism.
  • “The difference here, digital ID is the first step to an authoritarian state where they have all control. Doesn’t mean you end there...but you don’t ever want to give people that power. Ever, ever, ever.” — Glenn Beck, [97:54]

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The Need for Nuanced Dialogue and Conservative Self-Reflection

[69:03 - 78:25]

Main Discussion Points

• Debate, Don't Demonize:

  • Glenn and Stu lament the rise of personal attacks and purity tests within the right, urging open, fact-based debates even with movement peers.
  • "Sometimes the most intricate, interesting stuff, the nuanced stuff, is going to be about dissecting our own side and saying, hey, we're going down this road. I think that might be wrong.” — Stu Burguiere, [70:05]

• Drawing Lines:

  • They distinguish between healthy debate and rejecting genuinely noxious ideologies (Nazism, Stalinism).
  • "If people are saying... ‘Hitler was neat’ — no, excuse me. They were never in my tent, and if I was ever in that tent, I want out." — Glenn Beck, [71:18]

• On Whitney Webb’s Epstein Claims:

  • Glenn summarizes viral reporting by Whitney Webb that Jeffrey Epstein was less a sex trafficker and more a U.S./Israeli intelligence asset.
  • He and Stu stress the importance of evaluating each new detail and source individually, not simply linking together correlation as causation.

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Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Resistance, and Christian Responsibility

[46:22 - 67:00]

Main Discussion Points

• The Bonhoeffer Example:
  • Glenn responds to Tucker Carlson’s podcast discussion of Bonhoeffer, clarifying Bonhoeffer’s stance as a Christian pacifist who ultimately joined the plot to assassinate Hitler—a moral struggle over the responsibility to confront extraordinary evil. He shares Bonhoeffer’s deep reluctance and the spiritual weight of choices in the face of totalitarianism.
  • “Silence in the face of evil is evil itself. God will not hold us blameless. Not to act is to act.” — Glenn Beck quoting Bonhoeffer, [53:21]
  • The discussion is leveraged to reflect on how modern conservatives should handle ideological divisions and when to draw clear boundaries.

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Spiritual and Civilizational Crossroads

[27:28 - 34:46]

Main Topics

• Transhumanism and Losing Humanity:

  • Glenn hosts Timothy Albarino, who describes a "post-human apocalypse" prompted by AI, gene editing, and transhumanist technologies.
  • “We are on the brink of what I describe as a post human apocalypse...In the next 100 to 130 years, there will be no more human beings left on planet Earth.” — Timothy Albarino, [29:27]

• Spiritual Dangers of Losing Personhood:

  • The conversation ties Biblical themes (Noah, the “corruption of all flesh”) to the looming risks of technology, warning that there may be a spiritual point of 'no return' if humanity is fundamentally edited.
  • “You become something other than human and you lose your birthright. Christ came to save humans and…you lose your birthright of salvation.” — Glenn Beck, [31:12]

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Interview: Michael Iskender — "House of David"

[111:52 - 121:13]

Main Points

• Glenn interviews Michael Iskender, star of Amazon Prime’s "House of David."
• They discuss the challenge of portraying biblical characters authentically and the broader spiritual resonance of David’s story.
• “David is a person to me — he’s the embodiment of what it means to be human and to make mistakes and yet they still find forgiveness.” — Michael Iskender, [117:47]

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• On the FBI & Crooks:
  "The official story is impossible to believe. And the question every American should be asking themselves is really simple: Why would our government... suddenly become blind, deaf, and mute the moment a presidential assassin emerges on their radar?" — Glenn Beck, [20:59]

• On Digital ID:
  "There wouldn’t be a Jew alive on the planet if we had digital IDs [in WWII]. Not a chance." — Glenn Beck, [95:32]

• On Civil Debate:
  "Sometimes the most interesting stuff conservative media can do is to go back and forth on issues where conservatives disagree...it’s really healthy for a movement." — Stu Burguiere, [70:05]

• On Bonhoeffer:
  "Silence in the face of evil is evil itself. God will not hold us blameless. Not to act is to act." — Glenn Beck quoting Bonhoeffer, [53:21]

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• FBI & Crooks Narrative Analysis: [03:23–20:59]
• Transhumanism & Timothy Albarino Interview: [27:28–34:46]
• AI & Digital Afterlife Discussion: [34:46–38:47]
• Digital ID & Authoritarianism: [88:00–99:50]
• Dietrich Bonhoeffer Deep Dive: [46:22–67:00]
• Conservative Debate & Whitney Webb’s Epstein Reporting: [69:03–78:25]
• Michael Iskender "House of David" Interview: [111:52–121:13]

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Conclusion & Tone

Glenn Beck’s episode brings urgency and skepticism to new revelations about the FBI, while fundamentally advocating for truthfulness, self-reflection, the importance of spiritual grounding, and civil disagreement in the conservative movement. The recurring message: Americans must demand transparency, guard personal liberty against subtle incursions (especially technological), and remember that only a virtuous citizenry can sustain a free society.

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Detailed, timestamped, and filled with the hosts’ characteristic candor, this episode blends political inquiry, spiritual reflection, and pop culture — encapsulating The Glenn Beck Program’s style of “entertainment and enlightenment.”

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[Glenn Beck]

Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program from Dallas. We're so glad to have you join us today. I want to. We got. We have so many things. We have so many things to talk about and discuss today. And we're going to start with what Tucker Carlson just released just a few minutes ago about Thomas Crooks, the guy who apparently killed or tried to kill Donald Trump. There's some things that are not right. We're going to get into that here in just a second. First, let me tell you about the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. When times are dark, it is really easy to forget how powerful hope can be. You know, but for people struggling in Israel right now, hope isn't just a word. It is a lifeline. And the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews is on the ground every day, providing food and shelter and medicine and comfort to the most vulnerable. Survivors of Holocaust past families caught in the middle of the crisis. And they're showing up when and where it matters most, because that's what a real fellowship looks like. It's Christians and Jews, Jews together answering the call. It's love that, you know, really heals and shows people you're not standing alone with every box of food, every blanket, every prayer, shared reminder of the goodness that it still has a place in the world today, the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, helping people survive and blessing people, including you. So please call 888-488-IFCJ, 888-488-IFCj or go to ifcj.org every dollar helps. Don't visit ifcj.org, call 888-488- IFCJ right now. All right, let me walk you through some things that Tucker Carlson has just released. And I want you to hear it not as partisan, but as. As an American who I think deserves straight answers because there's. There's something happening in our country, and we all know it. And it's easy for us to get lost and go down the road of conspiracies. And, you know, one of my favorite lines from John Kennedy, you know, Senator John Kennedy, is we need some new conspiracy theories because the old ones all turned out to be right. Um, and we don't need new conspiracy theories. What we need are conspiracy facts. And we are starting to see the outline of something that does not, should not make everybody feel really good. And I'll get into that here in just a second. But first, the more we learn about Thomas Matthew Crooks, this is the would be assassin that got within an inch, a fraction of an inch of killing President Trump. The story bends in Washington. And when a story bends, that, that tells me somebody is very, very busy trying to keep it from breaking. From day one, the FBI and their cheerleaders in the mainstream media, msnbc, cnn, the whole Alphabet soup all pushed one storyline. Crooks was pro Trump, anti immigration, a fringe right winger radicalized by MAGA memes. Remember that? That's what the Biden FBI came out and said about him. Case closed. And then we never heard anything else. Because the case, the story isn't just. It's income incomplete. And as we're finding out now, it is also very, very misleading. We were told over and over again he had almost no online footprint. How many times did you hear that, Stu? He had almost no online footprint.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah, I do remember, as you kind of mentioned, bits and pieces that came out about how he said this, but it wasn't a prolific poster, was always, yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

And you know, how did this guy come up with this sophisticated way to kill without having any online footprint? Okay, so apparently there's a very large footprint. Um, he had a Discord account, a Snapchat account. He was extremely active on YouTube, his comment history. And that's where things start to get really, really strange. So let me take you through the phases of the guy who tried to kill Donald Trump. Here's phase one. In 2019, violent, yes, but directed at Democrats. In 2019, crooks YouTube comments were violent, very violent, no question. And, but they were directed almost entirely to anti Trump people and Democratic officials. When I say violent, he was talking about decapitations and shootings, taking out government officials. Now, we all know, I mean, you may not know. I know, but you may just feel like, of course that's happening. The government is monitoring everything. Okay? There are key words, decapitation of fill in the politician that shows up. That rings alarm bells. If you are talking about violent things and politics, you get on a list. It's just. And it. And you know, you should get on a. You're talking about things like this, taking out government officials. You should. The government should be monitoring stuff like that. Now remember, this is in a period when the US Government, we later have learned, was monitoring social media more aggressively than any other point in U.S. history. Okay? They were looking for these kinds of things. People were arrested for memes at this time, but crooks, nothing, Nothing. Not A warning, not a knock on the door, not one single action. Why? Why? Because he at that time was apparently a MAGA supporter. Why was there no knock on his door? Okay, now he has a pivot and I'm not really sure why this happened. Something happened and it might have been Covid. But here's the part of the story no one ever told you in 2020. Crooks online comments, they flip and they flip dramatically. Suddenly, he is violently anti Trump. He is anti Trump supporters, and again, still extremely violent. But the FBI and the media, why did they only report the first half of the story, the half that fit the predetermined storyline? I think we all know that's the way the system was working. Why leave out the part where he abruptly becomes very anti Trump? Why not tell the American people the whole truth? Why frame him exclusively as a pro Trump radical when the. When the data clearly contradicts this? He was and then he wasn't. You tell me. Okay. Then enters somebody, we don't know who. This is named Willie Teps. T E P E S. He's the ghost in the machine. Around the same time of the flip, a bizarre online Persona appears in Crook's orbit. Willie Teps. Now this account begins. Encouraging Crooks violence, openly agreeing with assassinations, approving of attacks on government officials. But here's the kicker. The name Willie Teps appears on a National Socialist website in Sweden. Now we don't know if that's the Willie taps, but that's the one you can find online. And we know for a fact that the State Department and the intelligence community monitor these circles aggressively. Okay, so now you're, you have our State Department, we have our intelligence community that is monitoring people online, especially Nazis in the rest of the world and Nazis here. And yet there's nothing. Not a single red flag is triggered, not a single investigation, no monitoring, no intervention. So why was this FBI monitoring, you know, Catholic churches and priests, but nothing on Thomas Matthews Crooks? Why? You're going to have to draw your own conclusions. And I honestly don't know the reason. I have fears, but I don't know the reason. Now here's where his YouTube history goes Absolutely insane. As the assassination attempt nears, Crooks search history explodes. Tucker laid this out. He searched Trump hundreds of times. He searched Jack Ruby, he searched bomb making, car attacks, sniper attacks, successful assassinations, how to escape police gunfire. All of these things should ring every NSA alarm bell. Nothing. Again, nothing. Not then, not during the attempt, not afterward. They didn't try to stop him, they didn't stop him. They didn't prevent or try to prevent. They didn't warn anyone. Instead, as soon as he was shot, they rushed out a narrative, a very specific narrative, and then they shut down anything that conflicted with it. Okay, as if that's not weird enough, here's where it gets even more unusual. The FBI, Trump's own FBI at the time, kept all of crooks shifting political and violent history quiet.

[Stu Burguiere]

Okay?

[Glenn Beck]

I understand it when it's Biden's FBI, but now Trump's FBI. Now why didn't Trump's FBI immediately come out? Because I know that you have Dan Bongino. We have it on tape where he is saying the guy had no footprint, no digital footprint. And he's in, he's being questioned in front of the Senator of the house. And he's like, look, that's not possible. There's no way this 20 something year old had no digital footprint. Well, now he's, he's second in command at the FBI. He would know this. Why didn't the FBI do anything? And I want to be really careful on Trump's FBI or Biden's FBI, because I'm not sure there's a difference anymore. It's, I want you to think of the FBI and this deep state. I want you to think of an iceberg, okay? You see an iceberg and you just see just the top of it. Two thirds of that is under the water. So we're seeing the tops change and we're seeing people put in at the top and we're like, oh, the iceberg is different now. But I'm not sure that anybody has any idea how deep that iceberg goes. So I'm not even, I'm not willing to blame the people up at the top. I'm, I'm questioning, does anyone know how deep this goes? Because I don't think it matters who's running it. Even more bizarre, they suddenly release the body for cremation. There's no extended autopsy, there's no forensic review, there's no independent experts. It's just all gone. And the crime scene is washed and scrubbed. It's all washed, literally washed and scrubbed before a full reconstruction can be done. Why would you do that? You don't do that in a presidential assassination attempt. You don't do that in a local homicide case unless you want something gone, unless you want something buried, unless you want a narrative and only that narrative to survive. So that's what Tucker laid out today. Now, based on this, there are questions that need to be asked. And so let me give you a list of the questions that I have that need to be asked. 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Why did that happen? Who was involved in that decision? Then you have to say, okay, after the election, why did the FBI still toe that line? Who made that decision? Next we know they're monitoring people. I'm for the government finding, hey, how do I build a bomb? How do I get away from an assassination scene? Successful assassinations. And where are these political people being? You know, where are they going to be in the future? That is. That should be tied together by an algorithm and it should be Notified. So somebody is watching this. Okay, we know it's already being done. So why did they ignore crooks? Really unbelievable threats when ordinary Americans were arrested for memes. Why was he completely ignored? Why did the intelligence agency monitoring extremism somehow miss a kid openly fantasizing about assassinations and then connecting with some guy it looks like is from Sweden who is part of a big Nazi movement over in Sweden? Why was that ignored? Why did they clean the scene prematurely? Why was every digital trace of his political shift kept out of the public discussion? Why did they say he had almost no footprint when the footprint looks to be really, really large? It was just scrubbed. Why did every single mistake that our FBI and government made, why does it seem to point in the same direction towards ignorance, negligence, hiding inconvenient data, shaping a political narrative? When every accident points the same way, it stops looking like an accident. So was this incompetence? I don't know what conclusion Tucker is pulling from all of this. I just appreciate the information. And I'm not telling you this is a conspiracy. I am telling you there's something wrong here. There's something very wrong. The. The official story is impossible to believe. And the question every American should be asking themselves is really simple.

[Michael Iskender]

We.

[Glenn Beck]

Why would our government, the same government that monitors everything, suddenly become blind, deaf and mute the moment a presidential assassin emerges on their radar? It's not a partisan, partisan question because one under one president, you can say, oh well, that's because they were doing an error. But then when the president's changed and this president was the one that they tried to kill and he said, I want answers to this, the narrative didn't change. Why? Why? That's not a pro Trump question. That's. That. That is a self preservation question. If, if the government can see everything that you do and somehow missed all of this, what does that say about our FBI and our DOJ and our CIA? Because they all would have been involved in this. I mean, they're either lying, they're incompetent, or they only monitor the people they want to monitor. None of these options should help us sleep at night. Okay? The FBI and the mainstream media, MSNBC for sure referenced leaks from crooks social media, the YouTube comments that showed he was pro Trump and anti immigration. We were also told that crooks had almost no online social footprint. But he had discord. Snapchat, very active YouTube. His YouTube comments in 2019, very violent decapitating of government officials. And then something happened. He switches. Something's not right here. I think this iceberg is way beneath the waterline. I think this thing goes so deep. I'm not sure. I'm not sure that these. I have a friend who said to me, I think the CIA is completely out of control. And this is a guy, you would not know his name and you wouldn't know his name for a reason, but he was very, very highly placed years ago. And this is the kind of stuff he did. And he said, I don't think the CIA answers to anybody anymore. I'm not sure that it's just the CIA. I'm not sure. It feels a little like you can shuffle the, the chairs on the deck of the Titanic, but it's the, it's what's below the water line that really makes the difference on that ship. All right. More in just a minute. This is Glenn Beck. You know, everybody has that one relative, you know, that cousin, the, the expert on everything. He fixed a boat engine once. So now he's a marine biologist. And if somebody ends, you know, somebody says, you know, I'm, I'm buying or selling a house, he pops up and is like, I can help you with that. He's got a business card, Facebook page, zero actual experience. He's not a marine biologist or a real estate agent. He might be good at the grill, but that doesn't mean he's, you know, qualified to handle a six figure real estate deal. If you're trying to sell your home or buy a new one, you need an expert. And I can tell you where the experts are. I started a company with my brother about 10 years ago and all we do is refer people that we have vetted to make sure you get the real estate agent that I would want. I just bought and sold a house and I use two different real estate agents. They're both part of this network and it was the best real estate experience I've ever had. I want you to go to realestate agents. I trust.com if you're thinking about buying or selling. Whether it's across the street or across the country, we'll help you find the right person. It's a free service to you. You can interview them and not use them, that's fine, but I think you're going to see the difference. Real Estate AgentsITrust.com Head over to Glenn.

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[Glenn Beck]

Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. I've got a podcast that I think is mind Boggling. I have not done all of my own homework on it. I've done enough to hold the interview. But I found this so fascinating that, I mean, this is going to take me months to really research and dig into and come up with how I really feel about this. Because this podcast delves into the scriptures, the Bible, the Apocrypha, Bible legend, questions about how things like the pyramids came to be, etc. Etc. And it all leads to transhumanism and the mark of the beast and the Antichrist. And it is. It is something I. You know, the. The guy is Timothy Albarino, and I did this podcast with him yesterday, and I said to him at the end, I don't know about all the story that you gave, because I have not seen it. I mean, he gave all the Scriptures and where it is, and it's in. It's throughout the Bible. And you're like, I didn't even notice that. I've read that scripture a million times. I didn't really think about that. And it's everywhere. And if he's right, as I said to him, I can't tell you about this, but the thread, the way you've connected the dots, I believe is right. And it is one of the most important warnings to people of faith that I think I've ever heard. I want you to listen. This is where he gets into the post human apocalypse. Listen to cut nine. I asked him about the Golden Age. It's coming. What does it mean?

[Timothy Albarino]

So the events that led to the destruction of the Old World are going to be repeated to some degree at the end of the age. We are living at the end of the age. And this phenomenon of the gods commingling themselves with the offspring, with the daughters of men, and this idea of hybrid beings and everything that was done in the antediluvian world, the corruption of all flesh, I think, is again going to be repeated to some extent, not exactly in the same way. So when I set out to write my book Birthright, it was prompted by a question that I had been ruminating on for a while. And the question is simply this. And. And this question, by the way, is a question that is unique to our times and has not really been something that earlier generations have had to contemplate. But we have to contend with this question right now. And it's simply this. What does it mean to be a human being? And is our humanity worth preserving? That is the most imperative question that we can ask. Those are the most imperative questions that we can ask today. And because we are on the cusp of. We are on the brink of what I describe as a post human apocalypse. And we are advancing at an alarming pace toward the end of humanity as we know it. And this is not alarmism, this is not hyperbole. This is exactly what the futurists and the technologists are saying. You have, of course. Oh yeah, you have a. You have.

[Glenn Beck]

Worse.

[Timothy Albarino]

That's right, Harari. You have these different, these different futurists out there who are predicting the end of humanity. In the next hundred years. There will be no. In the next 100 to 130 years, there will be no more human beings left on planet Earth. Well, what do they mean? It's because we are, we are in some sense building the mechanism of our own destruction right now. We are creating the tools that are gonna, that are going to enable us to redefine human biology, to remake Adam. And really what it amounts to is to, to become something other than Adam. This is called post human. And where we are right now.

[Glenn Beck]

And you're talking specifically about transhumanism.

[Timothy Albarino]

That's precisely what I was about to say.

[Glenn Beck]

Emerging man and machine.

[Timothy Albarino]

That's exactly right. We're over here. We're still human. We're going to a post human condition. Again, what I refer to as a post human apocalypse and the transitional period between this is called transhuman. And that's precisely why it's called trans humanism, because it's a transition. The term is, is it indicates a transition. It's transitory from human to post human. So we're human right now, but in the future we are going to become something other than human.

[Glenn Beck]

He goes into discussing the spiritual ramifications. He's talking about the end of the age and the last end of the age when all flesh was corrupted. He's talking about Noah. Why did God want to destroy everybody? Like everything was destroyed, right? Noah said, I mean, God said, no, there's nothing besides you, nothing that can live. What his theory from the book of Enoch, beginning in the book of Genesis, going to second Peter, everything else is, if it's correct, he's absolutely 100% right that we're about to repeat this, this whole scenario that we, we mingled with something that's not, that was not human and it corrupted us. And his point is, if you start corrupting your body and upgrading your body through AI, through robotics, he's like, it's, it's not a problem if you are, if you're gene splicing, there's a gene that you have, and it's gone haywire, and you're taking another human gene or pieces of it, and you're splicing it into you so you have a corrected that's human to human, that's fine. But the minute you start taking something non human and putting it into your body and it is an upgrade to your body, in other words, the AI system. He said, you become. You become something other than human and you lose your birthright. Christ came to save humans and he's saying that you lose your birthright of salvation.

[Timothy Albarino]

This.

[Glenn Beck]

To me, and I asked him about this. I said, you know what? Something just makes sense to me on this. Why is it in the book of Revelation, once you accept the mark of the beast, there's no going back. There's no. He's not sorting anybody out after that. You accepted the mark of the beast. That's it. A lot of people we know are going to be fooled by the mark of the beast. How come there's no conversation about that afterwards? There's nothing. There's nothing. Lord, I am so sorry. I really thought I was on the right side for a long time. And then I tried, but I couldn't get this off, whatever it is. Okay, why is there no salvation? Why is there no going back? He said, because you have edited your humanity. You have lost your humanity. You have upgraded into something else, and you can't take it back. So it's not necessarily a punishment that there's no salvation for you. It's just the way it is. You've changed the basic makeup of. Of who Christ came to save. It's an amazing thing. I don't know if it's right, but it is. It is so worth listening to. It is really an amazing theory, and I invite you to listen to it. It's the podcast Timothy Albarino. It's this week's podcast. It's available right now at Blaze tv. If you're a subscriber, you can listen to it. I mean, after this show. I mean, you got to get this one too. You listen to it anytime, at your leisure, but also it comes out wherever you get your podcast tomorrow. And it's a must listen to kind of a interesting place to go. It just makes so much sense to me. Let me play cut one. Here is an AI company building bots of your dead family members. Listen to this. He's getting bigger. See?

[Stu Burguiere]

Oh, honey, that's wonderful.

[Glenn Beck]

Kicking like crazy. He's listening. Put your hand on your tummy and hum to him.

[Michael Iskender]

You used to Love that.

[Stu Burguiere]

Hi, Grandma.

[Michael Iskender]

Hey, Charlie.

[Glenn Beck]

How was school today? It was really fun.

[Stu Burguiere]

I made this crazy shot in basketball.

[Michael Iskender]

I don't really care that much about basketball. What about the crush?

[Stu Burguiere]

Stop, Grandma, stop talking.

[Glenn Beck]

Just tell me one thing.

[Stu Burguiere]

Look who's gonna be a great grandmother.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh, Charlie, congratulations.

[Stu Burguiere]

She says that he's been kicking a.

[Glenn Beck]

Lot, though, like a little too much.

[Michael Iskender]

Tell her to put her hand on her tummy and hummed him. You loved that.

[Glenn Beck]

You would have loved this moment. You can call anytime before Charlie. Okay, Mom, I just need a quick video. Is this like an audition or something? No, mom, just three minutes. You need my best side. I can play the piano. I am. I'm absolutely. I'm your mother after all. By telling us a little bit about yourself. Take three minutes that will last shows. At the end, it shows the real mother being captured by AI into, you know, into like a camera, you know, just the phone and capturing her. And then, you know, tell me three minutes about yourself. And then you get a lifetime of Grandma. This. Do you remember the story, that short story that I wrote years ago for Black Mirror? It was this. This is the beginning of it. You remember that?

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah, yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

This was the beginning of it. I got to. I've got to write that story. I just got to do it on radio or something. But it's that story. Don't go there. Don't go there.

[Stu Burguiere]

It's going to be tempting to a lot of people, though, you know, that have lost. I mean, there was also another documentary made about this particular thing called Pet Sematary. If I remember right, putting the kid back in the pet cemetery and coming back to life didn't work out all that well. No, no, there were some negative. But I mean, I do think there, especially in those moments after someone's lost, like, this is gonna be something that's tempting to people to go down that road. I mean, I think about, you know, like, especially for people right now, because my dad passed away in 2014, but it was kind of before the phone thing. There's not tons of video of him. You know what I mean? And it sucks. It would be cool to be able to go back and see that. And I'm not saying that I'm gonna entertain this particular process, but it would be cool to see more and be able to kind of like be able to relive it. Right? Like, it's gone. And I think a lot of people will go down this road.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. Oh, yes.

[Stu Burguiere]

It's the same. I always go back to thinking about the times we've done on this show where a new technology comes out and we are flooded by calls and protests against it. You know, I'm never gonna put my information into that. I would never scan my finger. I would never scan my eye. I would never. What do you Toll tags. They're tracking us. All of these things happen. And then everyone's like, well, yeah, but it does make my life like 3% better. So I'm going to do it.

[Glenn Beck]

Let me give you one other thing just to make you feel a little better about AI at least the stuff coming from Russia. This is from ABC News. Play the cut to the humanoid robot that was just unveiled in Russia. Did you see this? He's on stage. He comes out on stage and he is so clunky. He looks like a Tesla robot and then just falls. They have to shut him down. It's like, so the good news is we don't have to worry about Russia catching us anytime soon.

[Stu Burguiere]

They hide it behind a curtain.

[Glenn Beck]

It's just so bad they execute the entire audience afterwards. You didn't see that anyway. Rough greens. Your dog hits a certain age and starts acting different. Used to bounce off the walls when you'd say, let's go on and go outside. Now he just stares at you. Like, define walk. I'm not playing fetch or anything else. You know, he's pondering. The dog gets as far away look he's, you know, wondering where it all went wrong. You might be doing that as well. Your dog isn't just slowing down. He's having a full blown midlife crisis. It seems this is the canine version of buying a motorcycle and joining a band. What you need is not a new identity. He just needs newer, better nutrition because his body has changed. This is where rough greens comes in. It's not a dog food. It's a supplement that you sprinkle on your existing food that you're feeding your dog. And it's packed with vitamins, probiotics, enzymes that most kibble food. Just leave all of this stuff out. Within a few days, you're going to see that existential stare turn into a tail wag again. He's got energy again. He's chasing squirrels instead of enlightenment. I want you to go to roughgreens.com and just try their free Jumpstart trial bag. You just cover the shipping. It's free. Ruff greens ruffgreens.com see if it makes a difference in your dog. It did mine. Rough Greens.com use the promo code Beck. The rope may break, but the ride goes on this is Glenn Beck.

[Stu Burguiere]

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[Glenn Beck]

So somebody who I have an awful lot of respect for, Whitney Webb, I just think she is. She's so well researched she has just posted something on X that's gone viral. Now my feeling is that is now safe to release the information that Epstein was really a sex trafficker as a side gig and was mainly an intelligence asset of Israel and the US A big time financial criminal on behalf of transnational capital. I would argue transnational organized crime disguised as transnational capital. An arms trader because of the people he was helping had stolen so much of America's wealth and had taken control over so much of the government. That's why even emitting the true breadth of the scandal and operation doesn't seem to move the needle. Criminals are in charge and they run both parties. They have created infrastructure for neo feudalism enforced by technology that are hurting us into the corral. Opt out of a digital ID and The surveillance state that Epstein Associates built while we still can. Also, all of the people who smeared me with this last year for pointing out JD Vance's Peter Thiel connections and why Teal is bad should also be shaming me for not trusting in Trump should be eating their own shirts right now after the recent releases. You sold the American people Epstein Associates as political saviors, and you should apologize. You know, I don't. I. I don't know where to stand on this with Whitney other than I respect her. And I think she has far more information on, especially the Epstein thing. She's probably the leading expert in the world on Epstein, so I trust her opinion on this. But this is something I've been saying from the very beginning. If you don't think that he was a possible double agent, this is. I mean, he has all of the earmarks. This is exactly what we did in the Cold War and fighting against the Nazis. What? We stop doing that. He has all of the earmarks of somebody that another country, maybe Israel, and the United States, colluded and worked together with to get information. I mean, why is that so hard to believe? It seems logical to me. This is Glenn Beck. Let me tell you about Good Ranchers. The American dinner table used to mean something. It's where you talk, you argued, you prayed, and you came back at the end of each day and you did it again. Good Ranchers is fighting to keep that alive. They have partnered with real American farmers and ranchers to deliver 100% American born, raised and harvested meat the way it's supposed to be. No mystery sources, no imported cuts, just honest, high quality beef, chicken and seafood. And it's all done by the people who are feeding our country. And they need your support. Every box you order helps rebuild something that has been lost. Faith in our food, trust in our producers. Producers and a connection to the land that built us in the first place. Put Good Ranchers on the table, you're feeding more than just your family. You're feeding America again. Here's what I want you to do. I want you to go to goodranchers.com and order goodranchers.com if you order before December 1st, use my code, Glenn. You'll get an extra hundred dollars off and you'll get free meat for life when you subscribe. Best offer ever by December 1st. Do it now. Goodranchers.com Sam.

[Michael Iskender]

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[Glenn Beck]

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[Stu Burguiere]

This is the Glenn Beck program.

[Glenn Beck]

Well, hello, America. It's Friday, and I'm very excited. You may not be. You may not be, but today is my Dietrich Bonhoeffer moment. Now, I thought a Dietrich Bonhoeffer moment makes come my way someday. And it always seemed like, oh, I don't want a Dietrich Bonhoeffer moment. I am so happy it's coming this way. My dedic Bonhoeffer moment is Tucker Carlson yesterday said some things about Dietrich Bonhoeffer, and everybody is spinning out about it in a million different directions. And I'm like, no, no, no, no. I'm the Dietrich Bonhoeffer guy. Is this my moment? I can tell you the Dietrich Bonhoeffer story and the truth about it. So put up up with me for a couple of minutes because this is my Dietrich Bonhoeffer moment. We'll do that in a second. First, every day in America, there are people who run toward the danger so the rest of us can run away from it. Police officers, firefighters, first responders, soldiers, men and women who put everything on the line every single day for people they've never even met. Their courage is quiet. Their sacrifice is enormous, and far too often. And their families are left carrying the cost. When tragedy strikes, that's when the Tunnel to Towers foundation steps in. They pay for mortgages for fallen first responders and gold star families, ensuring that the people they loved don't have to lose their home. Can you imagine being a spouse of the breadwinner and you're barely making it as it is, and he falls or she falls, and you immediately kids, and you're like, I've got it. What am I gonna. How am I gonna make the payment on the house? This is the gift of Tunnel to Towers. And it's more than a charity. It's about honor, keeping a promise that we will, we'll never forget the sacrifices for freedom and the people who made them. Every donation turns tragedy into triumph. Never forget the sacrifices of our country's greatest heroes. Will you Join me and donate $11 a month to Tunnel to [e-mail] T the number 2t.org all right, I'll bring this up. Tucker did a podcast yesterday. I listened to OR a couple days ago. Whenever it came out, I listened to it yesterday. And. And another reason why I listened to it is because so many friends were like, he's talking about Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Glenn. And I don't want to get in. I'm not going to talk about personalities. I just want to talk about facts. You draw Your own conclusion about who you listen to. And you can listen to them or not listen to them, that's fine. But let's make sure we correct facts and not make it about personalities, okay? Dietrich Bonhoeffer is one of my heroes. Dietrich Bonhoeffer is one of the greatest men to ever live. Dietrich Bonhoeffer is a Christian pastor. And let me set it up this way. When the Third Reich grew and the Weimar Republic collapsed, there was this. There was this. This movement in Christianity that happened quickly. Within the first year of the end of the Weimar and the beginning of the Nazi regime, within a year, 60% of the churches ridded themselves of everything Jewish. Okay? Now, that's hard to do when your main hero figure is a Jew. And the entire history that said, hey, he's coming, is also written by Jews. It's the Old Testament. And by the way, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, they were Jews too. So it's hard to rinse the Jew out of the Judeo Christian world. But somehow or another, they did it. 60%, okay? They'd gotten rid of, including many churches already had gone for it and gotten rid of the Old Testament. That is something that Hitler's people were really pushing for. Get rid of the Old Testament. Well, you go. You'll have nothing left if you don't have the Old Testament with the New Testament. So the world had gone insane. The Christian world had gone insane. Within six months, many, if not most of the churches had replaced the picture of Christ on the altar with a picture of Adolf Hitler. So he changed the fabric of Christianity entirely. And he was going after any pastor, priest, anybody who was preaching something different. Okay, There were a couple of pastors. One played along with it at first, Pastor Niemoller, and he's like, the first they came for this, and I didn't say anything. And then they came for this, and he didn't say anything at first. Then he. Then he got it and he's like, oh, I shouldn't do it. But he was praised in the end for his unwavering faith. He actually stood and he actually. He was one of the guys who preached that the Nazis were not to blame alone. They played their role. But may I quote, Would the Nazis have been able to do what they had done if church members had been truly faithful Christians? The answer is no. Truly faithful. Now, Tucker said yesterday that he doesn't think that Bonhoeffer was. I don't remember the exact lines. I'll probably get it wrong. Do we have it? Okay, go ahead and play it.

[Stu Burguiere]

Because Once you start calling people Nazis, we really have no choice but to start shooting them to be Dietrich Bonhoeffer and sort of reach the end of reason or even Christianity. Bonhoeffer decided Christianity is not even. He was a Lutheran pastor. Christianity is not enough. We have to kill the guy. Not judging Bonhoeffer, who was a great man in some ways, but that's inevitable once we decide that people are Nazis.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay, so his point here, he's making about, you know, we got to stop calling people Nazis. And he's absolutely right on it. You got to stop talking about people calling people Nazis or shooting begins. Exactly right. Unless they are actual Nazis. You know what I mean? There's. I mean, there's a difference between saying, hey, we should not call people Nazis who are not Nazis. Nazis. And Dietrich Bonhoeffer shouldn't have called Hitler a Nazi. He was the n. I mean, he's like. He's the idyllic Nazi. He's the king of all Nazis. He's a Nazi. So when it is a Nazi, I think you can call people Nazis. But, yeah, that does require you then to make a choice. And that's where Bonhoeffer found himself. This guy was an amazing man. He was a pacifist. He did not believe in war. He did not believe in killing. He. And that's how he skated for a long time, because he was saying, quiet, quiet, quiet. Nope, nope, nope. Do not involve yourself in this. God does not want us to kill each other. He was a huge pacifist. His story goes back and forth. You got to read the Bonhoeffer book, if you haven't read it by Eric Metaxas. But he goes back and forth. He comes to the United States. He sees faith in action, actually, in Harlem, and kind of has this renewed kind of faith experience. He goes back to Germany. He's there for a while. He knows now that Hitler is. Because he's helping Jews escape. And he knows Hitler is on him and he's going to. He's closing in on him. He's going to get him. He leaves. He comes to the United States. He's here, and he starts feeling guilty. He's like, I can't leave my own country. I mean, I can't. I got to stand. I can't leave and hide. I've got to stand. So he goes back to Germany, I think, on the last boat that is going into Germany. And he gets to Germany, and he starts plotting Valkyrie. He's part of Project Valkyrie. Valkyrie is the Tom Cruise movie. You've seen Von Stauffenberg, a huge German hero who was not a Nazi, but he was a German soldier who decided, this has got to stop. And they planned with a lot of people who said, we got to stop Hitler, because look what he's doing. He's destroying everything and he's killing millions, and it's got to stop. And Bonhoeffer, when he got back, he was wrestling with his pacifism because he. He was a pacifist, a strong one. And he really believed that God said, no, no, no fighting, no war, nothing. You're not allowed to kill. But the evil that he saw was so overwhelming that he started questioning everything he believed. And in his class, because he would. He was teaching these young pastors coming up in his class, he started saying things to the class members. So if a pacifist saw something that was so evil you needed to stop it, would it be okay? And then they would argue, and the class didn't have any idea. He was working it out with the class in his own head. He's working out, how do I work this? How can I? Am I a Christian if I do this? He got to the point to where he was even saying, so if you knew of a pacifist that you really respected and they did get involved in that, would you still be their friend? Would you still respect them? Are they still Christians? Okay, he's looking to work this out, and he struggled with it. Hitler grabs him, puts him in. In prison. He's in prison for a long time. And the only reason why he survived as long as he did is he came from a very famous family. And so Hitler really didn't feel he had the juice to kill him without causing all kinds of other problems. So he let him skate for a little while. But he was in pr, and he wrote some beautiful stuff. One of the most beautiful homilies on marriage that I've ever read is from him. He was a guy who didn't get married. He was going to get married, but knew what was going to happen to him. So he didn't want to endanger her, so he didn't get married. So he didn't know anything about marriage except, you know, what he had read and what he had thought about and what he had read in Scriptures. And he writes this beautiful homily because he's supposed to give the sermon at his sister's wedding. The Nazis won't let him out to do that. And so he writes it, and it's read at her at her wedding. And it is absolutely beautiful and deep. Deep. Deep. He's in prison for a while. He's. Now it's. It's, you know, coming up to April 1945. Hitler dies in April 1945, and. And everything's falling apart. And so the Nazis start kind of cleaning up the death camps and they start transferring people. And. And Bonhoeffer is supposed to be let free. And he gets onto this bus, you know, driven by the Nazis, and he's being transferred to where he will be released. Well, on the way, the tire goes out and they don't have a spare. And so they're sitting on the edge of the road and they got all these prisoners and these. This other bus is coming the other direction, and they're like, hey, where are you going? They say, well, we're going to this camp. Great. Would you just take these prisoners with you? Here's the paperwork and everything else. Here's the prisoners. You just take them with you. So all the prisoners that were there, including Bonhoeffer, was supposed to be released, go to this other death camp. And now he's sitting there on this death camp and waiting for death and not. Not supposed to be. And in that, he is preaching Christ to the guy who did all of the experiments on the Jews, you know, freezing them, bringing them up in high altitude until their heads pop. All the horrible experiments. Everything that is now in every hospital in the world. The book about hypothermia and everything else, it's the. It's. It's the. The number one book on what the human body can do and how you fix things. Number one, it's in every hospital. Every doctor has it. That was written by that Nazi. He released it without Hitler's permission because he thought it was such a gift to the world. And he went to prison because Hitler said, we're not trying to save the world, we're saving German soldiers. Puts him in prison. The guy is a vile guy, as you can imagine. He's in with, I think, a French spy, this woman, she was a double agent. And they're. So they're in with this cell with Dietrich Bonhoeffer, and he's preaching to them, and they're just vile with each other in front of him. Keeps his cool, keeps who he is. Comes up to a couple of weeks before Hitler is going to kill himself, and they come and they're going to execute everybody in that cell. And so they go out, and the only reason why we know how Dietrich Bonhoeffer died and when he died is because of the way he acted. He went out they took him out to the woods and they had built a hanging platform. And one by one they brought him up, put the noose around their neck, trapdoor. They died, cut him down. Next one, bring him up, put the noose around their neck, trapdoor opens, they die. Bonhoeffer, when he comes up, he comes up to the platform, and the guy who's putting the noose around his neck, he says something like, thank you for your kindness. Okay? And the guy is like, what? Everybody else is freaking out. Everybody else is, you know, and he says, thank you for your kindness. He tightens the noose, pulls the trapdoor, dead. He remembers that one guy and remembers that was Dietrich Bonhoeffer. Didn't. I don't know if he knew who Dietrich Bonhoeffer was at the time, but he knew him because of that. Thank you. He died like a very valiant man. Okay. In a way, I don't know if I could. What is the difference between when you confront evil, when you see evil? I mean, Dietrich Bonhoeffer is the guy who said, silence in the face of evil is evil itself. God will not hold us blameless. Not to act is to act. Okay? That comes from a deep, deep spiritual place. What is the difference between that and Thomas Jefferson saying, rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. Do you, as a Christian, have a responsibility to kill Hitler if you had the opportunity with. Not Baby Hitler. Baby Hitler hasn't committed any crime. You're seeing this death machine and you've tried everything you can to stop it. Do you have a responsibility as a Christian to stop the evil? I think you do. I think silence in the face of evil is evil itself. Not to act is to act. You know, for. For evil to happen is. It'll happen when good men do nothing. We know that we have a responsibility to act, but we have a responsibility to do everything Christlike that we can first. But you get into this place to where, you know, woe unto those who call evil good and good evil. Everybody starts to confuse the language, right? And that's what's happening right now. Everybody's calling everybody a fascist or Hitler. Everybody calls everybody a Nazi. And so there's no meaning on words. We can't forget what words actually mean, or we will wind up calling good evil and evil good. That's what happened to so many Christians. They did nothing. They just went along with it. They just played along, and then it became them. Dietrich Bonhoeffer was a great, great man, a Christian giant and a man who fought real evil and wrestled with it. We squabble on the Internet. And I don't want to add to that. All I want to do is make sure that we talk about the facts as they are so we don't lose our way as everything gets jumbled back in a minute. Most people sign up for Medicare and then they never look back. They assume they're covered. Whatever plan they picked years ago is still the best option, but it changes every single year. Benefits come, costs shift. Sometimes the plan that you think has been right for you all these times is not doing you any favors anymore. And that's why chapter exists. They are an independent Medicare advisor, and it takes a second look free of charge. 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[Stu Burguiere]

It's a big day for you.

[Michael Iskender]

I know.

[Glenn Beck]

It's my Bonhoeffer moment.

[Stu Burguiere]

I feel like, you know, you don't want to say Diedrich Bonhoeffer around Glenn because that means you're going to hear, oh, yeah, hours and hours.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh, I could go. It's like saying. It's like saying Woodrow Wilson.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yes, yes.

[Glenn Beck]

You say Woodrow Wilson.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

Your. Your night is finished with me.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

And you're like, God, why did you say Woodrow Wilson? Did you not know?

[Stu Burguiere]

Stop saying things to Glenn like that, like Edward Bernays. Oh, there's a ra.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. You want to go down?

[Stu Burguiere]

No, I didn't mean to bring it up.

[Timothy Albarino]

You said it.

[Stu Burguiere]

It's true. It's funny, though, because you have. I mean, you're the guy I first heard about Bonhoeffer from. I don't think I even knew the story at all. I mean, I know Eric wrote the book and you talked to him quite a bit about it at the time.

[Glenn Beck]

Eric was writing the book I didn't know about Dietrich Bonhoeffer. And he sent over to my office this giant picture of Dietrich Bonhoeffer. It was. He made it into a poster just for me. I think you've seen, it's the COVID of the book. He made it into a giant poster, except instead of the name of the book, it just said, silence in the face of evil is evil itself. Not to act is to act. Call me Eric Metaxas. And I got this. And I said, who is this? And he told me the story of. And he said, I'm writing a biography on him right now. I couldn't wait for the book. I did all kinds of research, talked to him, I started talking about him. And then when the book came out, it became a bestseller because. Yes, that's right. I had another Dietrich Bonhoeffer moment. Yeah. And America was ready to hear about. I take all the credit for that, Eric. Take all the credit. All right, Back in just a minute. This is Glenn Beck. All righty. You ever Google, you know, a simple pain, like, why does my back hurt when I get out of bed? You know, you get three clicks in and you're reading about, you know, some rare spinal condition only discovered in mountain goats, but you're convinced now, I've got it. I've got this mountain goat back thing going on. Okay? Call your doctor, call your vet. I don't know. Here's the truth. Most of the time, it's not some exotic condition. It's inflammation. The normal kind, the kind that builds up in your joints and your muscles until everything starts to hurt for no reason at all. Okay, What Relief Factor does? It's a daily supplement, all natural, and it helps reduce that inflammation and fight the root causes of pain naturally without drugs or strange side effects. So many people, including myself, listeners to the audience have tried it. Two out of the three go on to order more month after month. So before you spend another night diagnosing yourself with goat spine syndrome, try something that actually works, okay? Relief Factor. Because you don't need a rare condition. You just need relief. Get their three week quick start and give it a try today. 19.95. Go to relieffactor.com or call 800 for relief. That's 800 the number for relief. Relieffactor.com.

[Stu Burguiere]

Get every story we talk about every day and probably 500 Dietrich Bonhoeffer stories as part of the free email newsletter.

[Glenn Beck]

More.

[Stu Burguiere]

It's@glenn beck.com.

[Glenn Beck]

It's Friday. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

[Stu Burguiere]

Glenn, I think I could have used A few more personal attacks in your last message.

[Glenn Beck]

Really?

[Stu Burguiere]

That's the way we're supposed to do it on the right now?

[Glenn Beck]

I think so.

[Stu Burguiere]

I think you're supposed to call everybody that you disagree with names and, you know, deep, you know, kind of send them to hell. Like, you know, just cast them off into the fires of hell.

[Michael Iskender]

Right.

[Stu Burguiere]

I think that's the way you're supposed to do it.

[Glenn Beck]

I think that's the way it is. Aren't you, too? Are you tired of that?

[Stu Burguiere]

I am. And there's a lot of back and forth on the right right now. I always found, and this is something we've talked about going back a million years, doing this show in that. In some ways, the most interesting stuff I think conservative media can do is to go back and forth on issues where conservatives disagree a little bit. And I think that's a really healthy thing for a movement to be involved in. And I also think it's sometimes the most interesting stuff because it's really easy for us to do shows every day. Telling you that Nancy Pelosi sucks. She does.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Stu Burguiere]

It's really easy for me to come on the air and I love doing this, to come on the air and make fun of jasmine Crockett for three hours.

[Glenn Beck]

I say she should be the Democratic nominee 100%.

[Stu Burguiere]

I'm not making fun of her. I love her. I should say I want her to run for office everywhere, all the time.

[Glenn Beck]

I think she should be the candidate for every office.

[Timothy Albarino]

Absolutely.

[Glenn Beck]

Absolutely.

[Stu Burguiere]

And all that stuff, I think is really important because if you never do it, which it seems like that seems to be the current path of the right for some reason, you never criticize anyone on the left anymore. All we do is criticize each other. But if you never do that stuff, people will forget it. You have to be able to talk about the opposite side. But sometimes the most intricate, interesting stuff, the nuanced stuff, is going to be about dissecting our own side and saying, hey, we're going down this road. I think that might be wrong. And what about this road that might be wrong? And let's say this is way too far or whatever that is. That's been something that's happened in every movement forever and I think is normal and natural and should occur. How it should occur is something we should spend more time on. I think what you were talking about there, Tucker mentioned Dietrich Bonhoeffer. It wasn't. I don't think his main point of his show.

[Glenn Beck]

No, it wasn't.

[Stu Burguiere]

But it was something that was able to set you off on something that you care about and that you and Tucker could fully talk about.

[Glenn Beck]

And I think it's important. And I would, you know, if Tucker were sitting here, I would say, you know what? Listen to it. I think you got this wrong. Here's. Here's the story that maybe you don't know. And that's the kind of conversations that we have to have. That doesn't mean that you excuse people, you know, if they're like. Like, I hate this thing. Oh, the rights tearing itself apart. It's. It's. It's shooting its own, you know, with people who are saying that, you know, Hitler was neat. No, excuse me. They were never in my tent, and if I was ever in that tent, I want out of that tent. That's. I mean, there's no side.

[Stu Burguiere]

Or how about even. Maybe even more clear to the world? Stalin was great.

[Glenn Beck]

Yes.

[Stu Burguiere]

The communist.

[Glenn Beck]

Right.

[Stu Burguiere]

I'm supposed to have something in association with this person who likes Stalin. Like, you know, look, there are.

[Michael Iskender]

Are.

[Stu Burguiere]

Of course, there is a struggle in every movement to say, hey, this is part of our group, and this is not part of our group. And there are lines to that, I think.

[Glenn Beck]

Or you don't.

[Stu Burguiere]

The group means nothing.

[Glenn Beck]

Right. Here's one that I. Here's one again that I disagreed with Tucker on in that same podcast. He was talking about how we sided with Joseph Stalin to win, how you've become everything you despise to beat Hitler. Yeah. Yeah, we did. And it's easy to say that now, knowing in hindsight exactly how everything played out. It led to the Cold War, et cetera, et cetera.

[Stu Burguiere]

Sure.

[Glenn Beck]

And I don't ever want to be in. I don't believe in the enemy of my enemy is my friend. I think that causes all kinds of problems because you know, your enemy will eventually, once you've gotten rid of the other enemy, that enemy now looks at you and goes, I gotcha. I'm gonna. I'm gonna kill you now. And so it becomes exactly what it was. But that it's not. That's not an easy. That's not an easy thing to talk about. These things need to. You can't just go in and say, you know what? We're bad because we sided with. And I'm not saying he did this, but we're bad because we cited in the end, you know, with. With Stalin, and look at what that. Yeah, okay. But let's have a really. These are nuanced, long conversations that are deeply philosophical. It's not just, you Know what? You're a Nazi. It's not that. It's not that. And by the way, you have to have those.

[Stu Burguiere]

What's fascinating about it is all of these things, all these conversations occurred at the time as well. I mean, people in the US Government were very well aware that there were risks about siding with Stalin. They believed the risks outweighed the negatives. At the time, the negatives were the literal Nazis. So it was a really powerful argument. It was something that was really well considered. And it's important to keep looking at this and examining it and having these conversations. I think I just feel like the way the right is having those conversations, particularly online, it just is not helpful, I don't think. Not only is it not get us across any beneficial line for. For the Right, it's also giving the left everything they want.

[Glenn Beck]

Everything.

[Stu Burguiere]

I hate that. I hate giving the left everything they want.

[Glenn Beck]

So I would just rather be the people who have dialogue and who. Who argue things out rationally and reasonably and say, you know what? That's a good point. I don't think I agree with that. But okay, I see. You know, can I ask you some questions on how you got there and how come that matters here, but not over here to you, or maybe it does and you just didn't say it. And that's the kind of stuff that we should be talking about. And when people are clearly wrong, you know, Stalin was not a good guy. No.

[Stu Burguiere]

Really?

[Glenn Beck]

No. Mao was not a good guy. Hitler was not a good guy.

[Stu Burguiere]

These aren't borderline issues.

[Glenn Beck]

They're not borderline.

[Stu Burguiere]

And like, you know, look, at times, movements have struggles with where their lines are. And to me, that's healthy.

[Glenn Beck]

Right?

[Stu Burguiere]

That is healthy. To me, there's no question that someone who loves. Who's a big fan of Joseph Stalin is not in my group. That being said, if it is in.

[Glenn Beck]

That group, then I have to.

[Stu Burguiere]

I'm not in that group anymore, and that's okay, too. Like, I don't need groups. I'm not like, that obsessed with it. I'm just gonna believe what I believe is right, and I'm gonna do my best to be. When I talk to someone and I have. I have conversations with people, I think we all do, where they. I have a friend of a friend who has beliefs that claims to be on the right as a conservative, and I would say probably agree with on a lot of things, but has some beliefs that strain off into what I would call completely nuts territory. And you talk to that person about it, you can Be a jerk. You can say you're in mortality. You can call them all names.

[Glenn Beck]

It's not gonna happen.

[Stu Burguiere]

There's no, A, I'm going to not have any relationship with that person anymore. And B, it's not going to convince them. It's going to have them dig in. I feel like a lot of the stuff you're seeing on the back and forth now is people taking these sort of stances. Stances publicly for them.

[Glenn Beck]

Right.

[Stu Burguiere]

It's not about trying to persuade other people or try to bring people who you've always agreed with maybe back into the fold a little bit more, people you maybe don't think you've lost. It's more about like, hey, I'm gonna make this really proud stand because I'm a good person. I'm going to. I'm going to be. This is my Prius. I'm gonna show everyone that I'm better, I'm morally better than everybody else. And look, there are times for that. I think quite clearly there are times for that when you need to just.

[Glenn Beck]

Stand up and say, look, there are lines.

[Stu Burguiere]

This is absolutely over the line to me. But I don't know. That should be. It's like impeachment. It should be something that. It shouldn't just be like, I disagree with this president on something. Let's impeach him. It should be something pretty big. And sometimes it is. And this might be the case to you, and that's fine. But the way you do it, what your goal actually is. These things, I think are important for people to think about right now. The way you talked about this issue with Bonhoeffer, I thought was a good example of, like, you know, you're not saying like, oh, well, actually, I don't. I'm not a big Bonhoeffer fan. You're not changing your view. You love Bonhoeffer. He's a hero to you. But you don't have to, like.

[Glenn Beck]

I don't have to take Tucker Carlson down to explain who Dietrich Bonhoeffer really was.

[Stu Burguiere]

No, just say, hey, we have a slight disagreement on part of this, and let's talk that stuff out. I think that's generally a good thing. And.

[Glenn Beck]

And it's the only way a country moves forward.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah. And a movement moves forward as well. Those discussions need to occur. How they occur is crucial when you talk about keeping people together. And I don't know. This is not something that was given to us as the conservative movement, is not something that is the natural state of things. For a long time, there wasn't one that had any success. And whatever versions of conservatism existed, it was constantly stamped down. It became a big thing for a long time and it's not necessarily going to last forever.

[Glenn Beck]

Let me give you something. Let me give you a something. So there's the news. Whitney Webb is viral today. We talked about it last hour and she's saying that she feels it can be said now with credibility that Epstein was a double agent for the Israelis and the Americans. I don't find that controversial. I find that pretty logical that that's.

[Stu Burguiere]

Well, it's certainly controversial because it's not known.

[Glenn Beck]

But I'm not saying.

[Stu Burguiere]

You're saying that it doesn't.

[Glenn Beck]

The idea of that. The you're saying of that is not out of the. Seems like a logical conclusion that logical people could come to. But now let's back it up with facts. Now I'm not talking about Whitney because she's usually backed up by more facts than anybody else comes. She comes with a machine gun at a knife fight. But, but here's, here's where that story came from. This is where it was one of the places that originally dropped. It came from Drop News. Drop Site News. Okay? Drop Site, Drop night, Drop Site News.

[Stu Burguiere]

I'm not familiar with it.

[Glenn Beck]

It's an anti Israel news startup, okay. Reader supported completely independent journalism. That's what they say. However, there's another story that is out today that shows now that George Soros gave a quarter of a million dollars to Drop Site News to establish it, to get it going. Now that doesn't mean that the story that they printed is wrong. I don't know about that story. You know what I mean? I don't know. It doesn't. This is what we have to stop. We have to be very careful. That one thing being true does not mean that, you know, if A is true, it doesn't mean that B, C, D and E and F are also true. They are not necessarily related. They can all kind of fit into the same story. But that doesn't mean that they. They each have to stay and be able to stand on their own two legs. You know what I mean? And what we're doing is we're taking one thing and another thing and then we're saying everything in between here is exactly right. It was wrong for us to get in bed with Stalin. So therefore we're the evil ones. I don't know that. That's not necessarily the conclusion. You're missing all of the nuance in there. And that is the thing that we have to be really careful of. That's the thing that will. That's the thing that will turn all of us into really people unable to save our nation. We have to be logical, calm. Stop trying to chase everybody out. Just try to understand them. Call them when you know. No, it is true. I know Hitler was a bad guy, period. And I also found out today, pretty sure he had a micro penis. Okay, I don't know if you saw that. News came out today. I don't know why it came out today. Don't know if that's been out for a while. Yeah, news I didn't need to know, but okay, it's a fact. It's a fact. Now, when you get to facts, you just leave the facts. But it doesn't mean that it makes everything else in the chain a fact. All right, back in just a minute. There's been a lot of talk over the decades about women's choice, but we rarely talk about what choice looks like when it's made in a moment of fear, when they are all alone. It's under pressure and it's without hope. Yeah, it is a choice, but that's a. That's a really bad time to make a choice. That's where preborn steps in at that moment, and not with judgment, but with compassion. I think this is, this is the reason why I am such a big supporter of preborn is you can, you know, have your abortion. You know, Van, with all of the pictures of abortions, you know on it, you're not going to change anybody's mind. You can shout at moms going into. That's not going to change anybody's mind. Showing compassion, that changes people because most of the women, they don't want to have an abortion. They just don't know what else to do because they're completely alone. They have no way. No one in their life is supporting any other decision other than get rid of it. So this is where they step in with compassion and actual help. But they start with an ultrasound because that is what changes things the fastest. Mom sees an actual baby on the screen and hears the heartbeat and was like, oh, wait a minute, that's my child. Donate now. Dial £250. Say the keyword baby. Help them save babies, will you? And moms hit £250 keyword baby or donate [e-mail] Beck. That's Preborn.com Beck sponsored by Preborn. Teach your kids right.

[Stu Burguiere]

Shoot.

[Glenn Beck]

You know, schools won't do it for you.

[Stu Burguiere]

This is Glenn.

[Michael Iskender]

Becky, Let me Say one more thing.

[Glenn Beck]

On this, and then we'll leave it alone for the day. But, you know, Stu and I were just talking off air, and, you know, he said, look, there are lines, and I think there are people that are too far gone. And I immediately said, I agree. And then I thought, wait, wait, wait a minute. Wait a minute. The Westboro Baptist Church people. I mean, we know what their signs say. It's pretty far. It's pretty far. I have nothing in common with any of those guys. Are they too far gone? I just want to say that because I want to remind you that two of those people, one of them was the leader's daughter, Got out of that cult because people were kind to them and just said, hey, I just want to talk to you about this. I'm not listening. Because you're going to plan all kinds. I just want to ask you some questions. And befriended them and asked them questions. Well, how does that fit with this? And then this with this? And by doing that, you open people's minds, and they also realize, oh, wow, you're. You're not the problem. You're not what I've been saying you are. You're actually a reasonable person. Maybe I'm. Maybe I am on the wrong track. That's. I think it is. Blessed be the people. Peacemakers. I think that is why that's just my message today. Blessed be the peacemakers. Be a peacemaker in every way you can. Draw lines, be clear, but be a peacemaker everywhere you can. You will turn more hearts and save more by doing it that way. This is Glenn Beck. Let me talk to you a little bit about Jay's medical something. We don't talk enough about parasites. I mean, Stu, when's the last time when I talked about parasite? Anyway?

[Stu Burguiere]

Washington. We get on it.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, those don't have any cure for those. Apparently. Apparently one in four people are infected with a parasite right now. You might have one, you don't even know it. That's why Chase Medical is offering an easy, affordable way to access Ivermectin. It is part of their new parasite kit. A simple, effective way to have your body cleanse and stay healthy. It's prescribed online by licensed physicians and shipped directly to your door. I take, what, two days worth of it? I think every. Every month. My. My wife. Just. Time for your ivory magnet. Don't want worms. Okay, what am I, dog? All the. Anyway, the best time to get ready for any kind of trouble is before you need to be. And Jace Medical puts trusted, powerful medication in your hand so you're prepared for whatever comes next. Jace Medical. Take care of your health. Health. Before it takes you by surprise. Go to jace.comjace.com Enter the promo code Beck at checkout. Get a discount on your order. Promo code beck j-a s e.com all right, last hour of the program for the week. Next.

[Michael Iskender]

Sam. Down the road where shadows hide Feel the dark on every side Stand your ground when times get down Gotta face the dark and embrace the fire.

[Glenn Beck]

The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

[Stu Burguiere]

This is the Glenn Beck program.

[Glenn Beck]

Hey, Apple just made your life so much easier. The new Apple digital ID is here.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yay.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh my. I will get into that here in the last hour of this week's programs in 60 seconds. First, every day you're asked to compromise. And if some of that, you know, some of that is normal, some of the things aren't negotiable. However, you know, your freedom to choose who you support, who you don't, you know, still all belongs to you. Patriot Mobile is America's only Christian conservative wireless provider. And it's built by people who refuse to fund the same companies pushing woke agendas and politics that you don't believe in. You'll get with Patriot Mobile the same nationwide network as the big carriers. So you get so strong coverage, reliable service and fair prices without supporting the organizations that work against all of your values. Also, when you switch to Patriot Mobile, you're taking money out of the hands of companies that mock your belief and put it back where it belongs into businesses that stand for faith and family and freedom. So many companies have forgotten who they serve. Patriot Mobile knows exactly who they serve. God and you. Patriot. Patriot Mobile. They offer premium access to all three major networks. So you're going to enjoy the same or better coverage that you'll get from the major carriers and you'll save money. Go to patriotmobile.com beck972patriot972patriot make sure you use the promo code Beck for a free month of service. 972patriot patriotmobile.com so, Stu, why wouldn't you want a digital ID issued by the state?

[Stu Burguiere]

Why wouldn't I want.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, why wouldn't you want.

[Stu Burguiere]

Gosh, I can't think of any reasons. Make everything so much easier, right? You know, you can always trust the government to have your best interests at heart, unlike these corporations. And, you know, so I think I would take one immediately. But are there some people that are resisting this? I can't even imagine.

[Glenn Beck]

Well, there's some that say that, you know, this is the beginning of an all seeing, all knowing state. And the next thing you know, they control everything.

[Stu Burguiere]

It is weird too because is that even speculation? Like isn't this what like for example, China is already doing?

[Glenn Beck]

Oh yeah, China's already doing.

[Stu Burguiere]

They're way down this road.

[Glenn Beck]

And Europe, they're trying to get it in and they talk about it openly, that this is what it is. The next thing you get, the digital ID is the first thing. Then it includes your medical records, it includes all your health, everything. It will give you access to the hospitals or not access to the hospitals. It will allow you to buy things or not buy things. It'll allow you to access online or not access online. It is control of absolutely everything. And that's in the design. And they talk about it openly. Okay, we're backdooring it. We're not. Cuz they know Americans are not gonna go for that. Really. Did you meet us during COVID Um, and they've been trying to remember that's what a lot of people said. Covid. Really the real thing on Covid was really all about was digital id. We gotta get everybody onto a digital ID now because Americans aren't for it. The good, good, good, good, good, good people at Apple are here for you. Presenting the new Apple digital ID now at the TSA checkpoints in more than 250 airports all across the U.S. you can present your digital ID at TSA checkpoints and get right onto that plane. Imagine it allows you to create and store an ID in an Apple Wallet using your US passport. The Apple Digital ID acceptance will begin to roll out at TSA checkpoints for domestic travel in over 250 airports across the USA. Apple notes it's not a replacement for your physical passport and you can't use it yet for international travel or border crossings. But you can store everything digitally in their wallet. I can already pay for almost everything with that wallet now I can use it as an official government id. Yeah, who doesn't want that? I mean, I.

[Stu Burguiere]

It does sort of sound appealing, doesn't it? I mean, just speaking frankly for a moment, it does.

[Glenn Beck]

Very appealing.

[Stu Burguiere]

When I get on a plane, you know, I'm using that as my key. You know, you have cars now where your phone is your key. You can store all sorts of credit cards, you can pay through the phone. I mean, what's the argument to the average person that this is some bad thing? I have to carry this in my wallet anyway, I'm carrying my phone instead.

[Glenn Beck]

I'd love that. I'd love that. If it was completely isolated on my phone.

[Stu Burguiere]

Now, Apple's pretty good with security, actually.

[Glenn Beck]

They are.

[Stu Burguiere]

They are legitimately good with privacy.

[Glenn Beck]

They're the best. They are. No, I know. I mean that sincerely.

[Stu Burguiere]

You're saying it with a sarcastic.

[Glenn Beck]

What does the best mean? What does the best.

[Stu Burguiere]

It's a relative term.

[Glenn Beck]

It's a relative term. They are the best at digital, at, you know, security, as opposed to some of their competitors. Right. And I have to tell you, when you start putting everything, all records, all passports, all. It is your one universal key, and it's tied directly to online, where it's tracking everything, everywhere you go, every dollar you spent. This is just a very bad idea. Very bad idea. There's a story I can't remember. Oh, it's called the Book of Revelation. I mean, how much clearer do you have to be where you can't go anywhere. You can't. You can't buy anything unless you have the mark. Well, I'm not saying Apple is coming up with the mark of the beast, but this is the technology that sure kind of fits it. And I just don't. Do you know why the Germans could round up so many Jews every night? IBM. IBM, that's a book, right?

[Stu Burguiere]

IBM and the Holocaust.

[Glenn Beck]

IBM came up with the punch card system. You remember, when I was a kid, I don't know if anybody else remembers this, but, you know, these computers were the size of rooms, and you had punch cards, and you would feed it in and it would store the information on the punch card, okay? And so you could ask it anything on a punch card. You type it out, and it would punch out whatever, and you'd feed it in the computer, and it would feed out another punch card, and then you translate it, okay. They put everything onto these punch cards where everybody lived, who was related to whom, et cetera, et cetera. So they could go in the afternoon and go, we got to clear out another 20,000. Where are they? Feed it into. IBM, punch card it out. Make around everybody up. Okay. That was then. There wouldn't be a Jew alive on the planet if we had digital IDs. Not a chance.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah. And it really. It does sort of rest on your belief we don't cross those lines. Right. Yeah. That our government doesn't become Nazi Germany. And again, that's. Everybody who has faced a government like that has thought about, oh, gosh, where our government won't do this. Right. Like, everybody who think of COVID We.

[Glenn Beck]

Were on the air saying, like, in what, February. Can you imagine? Look at what they're doing. They're welding people into their houses. Yeah.

[Stu Burguiere]

In China, I think in Italy, being. Because China was China's China. Like, do I surprise the welding people way.

[Glenn Beck]

You could even help us stay in our own houses.

[Stu Burguiere]

But when it happened in Italy, I remember being like, oh, my. Like that's. We share a lot of what I.

[Glenn Beck]

Thought a general understanding said not happen here.

[Stu Burguiere]

I remember thinking it sitting in the chair I'm sitting in right now, thinking, watching the map, you know, on TV of Italy as it got more and more red and circles started popping up all over, and they're getting all these cases and I'm thinking to myself, they're actually making people stay in their houses. Can you believe this? Like, I couldn't even comprehend it.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Stu Burguiere]

That they would even ask us to do it.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Stu Burguiere]

In the United States. And then a few weeks later, there we were.

[Glenn Beck]

There we were. There we were. And some states were better than others.

[Stu Burguiere]

Oh, yeah. And there was never a point where I was not able to leave my house, but there were lots of restrictions on where I could.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh, there. I know people that even in Texas. Yeah, I know people not in Texas and other places could not leave their house. Could not go outside. Could not go outside. Couldn't go for a walk. That was insanity. And we just took it. We just took it. This is already happening.

[Stu Burguiere]

We didn't take it. But I know what you're saying.

[Glenn Beck]

In some states we did.

[Stu Burguiere]

Some people did. Some people not only took it, cheered it on and vilified people who wouldn't.

[Glenn Beck]

Go along with it. Yes, yes.

[Stu Burguiere]

Though I do think that when you look back at the overall arc of that period, when you don't focus on the very fine details of it, what you get is a society that did say no to took a while. And it did happen in some states and not others. We eventually did get to that place, and because of constitutional protections, I think some of that stuff was reversed. I'm not saying it's a positive story overall, but I mean, at the end of the day, we didn't turn into Nazi Germany from it, but they also.

[Glenn Beck]

Didn'T have total control over everything. They couldn't just shut your money off. Right. Okay, the difference here, digital ID is the first step to an authoritarian state where they have all control. Doesn't mean you end there. It just means you've given people that power. You don't ever want to give people that power ever, ever, ever. We're not going to use it that way. Tell me one thing that the government has Said we're not going to do besides balance the budget. Show me one thing they said we're not gonna do that they, you know.

[Stu Burguiere]

They haven't done lots of positive things they said they're going to do and.

[Glenn Beck]

Then didn't, and then didn't do them.

[Stu Burguiere]

But yeah, yeah, you're right. Well, it's, it is a step down a path that you don't want to walk down.

[Glenn Beck]

Especially when, you know, if we were becoming a more and more healthy republic, if we were becoming a more and more just republic, a more calm republic, a republic that was starting to really realize, you know, I have a real responsibility, responsibility as a citizen, not to burn Minneapolis down. You know what I mean? I have a, I have a real responsibility. As somebody in my party says, I think we should behead them. I gonna stand up and say, no, we shouldn't. And I'll lead a campaign to make sure that that person is not, you know, the one that wins that election. Even if it's my, even if it's my running mate. We're not that nation. We're not going in that direction. We're going the opposite. When you have a nation that is like, you know, I don't know exactly what's going to happen with the dollar because of everything is good. You don't want to hand them the tool that just says, oh, by the way, you can buy everything now, you know, with your digital id and it'll all be centralized and you've already signed up, you have it, so we're just giving it now. Your dollar is not going to be worth anything soon. Just make sure you get the digital id. You don't want that scenario. You stay away from those lines.

[Stu Burguiere]

We do have to protect those lines. But I will say, you know, history is littered with examples of people who say they're going to protect those lines. And when convenience rears its head, they choose the convenience. I mean, it happens almost every single time.

[Glenn Beck]

Glenn.

[Stu Burguiere]

There's almost no examples of people who will resist these technologies.

[Glenn Beck]

So that is on, and that is on the freedom loving side where you're like, I'm not going to do, I'm not going to give my face to anybody face ID on Apple. We're all doing it on the other side. There's almost no example of getting something that can be used to control people and having those who are nefarious on either side not use those things. Eventually they will find a way to use those things. Look at, look at the, look at the Patriot Act. We all were oh, you know what? We're all patriots. We're all patriots. We all believe in the same thing.

[Stu Burguiere]

That may be a slight simplification of that conversation, but I know it is.

[Glenn Beck]

But generally speaking, we all just kind of went along with it, and look how out of control it is now. Look how out of control our country is on spying on our own citizens. Something. Twenty years ago, we would have. We would have. We would have marched up to Washington to make sure all of those people were standing in front of a judge and going to jail that week. We don't even recognize it anymore. You don't want these tools, given we're.

[Stu Burguiere]

Simultaneously being watched more than ever before. But as you brought up in hour one, Thomas Crooks is just on the Internet. It's like, threatening everybody.

[Glenn Beck]

How do I behead this politician, right?

[Stu Burguiere]

And, like, no one even knows. And no one pays attention.

[Glenn Beck]

A search. And our government is like, yeah, we couldn't find anything digitally. Wait, wait, he did this? How come? What is happening? That's why. I mean, in a time when we distrust our government more and more, that's the last thing you do is give them more power and access to everything about you.

[Stu Burguiere]

How do you balance this, though, Glenn? Because one of the things. And maybe we could take a. I know I have to take a break here, but. But maybe you can answer this. One of the things I always thought about the most brilliant thing of our founders were understanding human fallibility, understanding that we weren't going to be perfect. And we should set up a system that understood that people have selfish motivations at times and that the system will be able to understand that and still be able to deliver a great world. This is the situation here. This is why I have no real time for some of the conversations we've had on some of the people we've read and talked about who are like, let's just stop AI for five years and then let's assess it. Even Elon Musk has said stuff like this, and I think he's even abandoned that to some degree as he's developing AI himself. But the idea that we're gonna slow this down or stop it and have a conversation, people just want it too much. And at some point, we just have to understand they're going to. We better live in that world, understand that world, and try to deal with the real world. Because if we just say, okay, well, let's just stop. Well, that's great. You know who's not gonna stop? China. You know who's not going to stop? Like, Bad actors, hacking groups, all these other things. And if we base our solution on, well, let's just not do these things, we're going to wind up losing. And the digital idea is probably a small part of that conversation, but I think it's part of it. People are gonna want it. I don't have to bring my wallet. So how do we, knowing that people will choose to have these things on their phone because it's going to be easier. How are we going to then push back against that and stop these things from going down these roads? Are there protections we can.

[Glenn Beck]

I will give you, I'll give you what the founder, what I think the founders would have said. Let me give, take a break here for one minute. Let me tell you about good ranchers. Most people have no idea that up to 4 billion pounds of American labeled beef every year is actually imported from overseas. Cheaper for corporations, devastating for American ranchers. Good ranchers is changing all of that. They have partnered directly with family farms and ranches right here in the US Every box is of their beef, chicken and seafood is 100% American. Born, raised and harvested here. The quality is incredible. But the mission is even better. Keeping American farms alive and strong. And when you order from good ranchers, you're not just feeding your family well. You're, you're investing in the future of American agriculture. You're making sure our food supply stays here, not halfway around the world. Because the true cost of dinner should never be paid by the American farmer. We need to support these people. Shop America's Best Meat goodranchers.com Start your subscription today. If you order before December 1st, you'll get my code Beck. And if you're a new subscriber, you'll get an additional $100 off over your first three orders, plus free meat for life. That's Beck. $100 off plus meat for life. @goodranchers.com that's goodranchers.com let's get back to the American table. 10 seconds. Station ID. So I think the answer to your question is there's no way back.

[Stu Burguiere]

Oh, the typical Glenn Beck optimism I come to expect from this program.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, but that is why, that's why I get up every day. That's why you get up every day, I think, think. Because the only way back is to remember what our founders said. Our founders said this is wholly inadequate. This will never work for a people who are not virtuous and religious, who haven't understood they serve something higher than government or themselves. They serve God. And that puts A limit and a governor on them and their passions and what they do. If you lose that, you lose virtue. You. You can't. You can't have freedom, okay? You just can't. Look at how. What's happening. We can't have freedom because everybody's like, I want it my way. I have a right. You know? And then they go, burn down Minneapolis. And you're like, wait, you don't have a right to do that. But. But you can't. You can't stop because half of the country is like, what? That's their right. They were. They were right because they were. They were. They were sad one day when they were kids. You're like, what? What? So this system does not work. We have to go back to the beginning. That's why not a revival. But only an awakening will work. You notice how many people are talking about God the way they were just a few weeks ago? Are we starting to go into the September 11, September 12 kind of thing where we all found God? We're all like, you know what? That's right. And then three weeks later, we're like, yeah, what?

[Stu Burguiere]

It definitely feels like that's happening.

[Glenn Beck]

Feels like it is. Right? That is. That's the trouble. That's a revival. Happens from time to time. We had lots of revivals in the end, during the Progressive Era, all the time, people had revivals. What we need is an awakening, which comes after a revival, after people go, oh, God's calling to me. I got to look into that. Then you look into it. And then you don't just go, I got to tell you, I'm better than you because Jesus, I love Jesus more than you. Your Jesus isn't as strong as my Jesus. That gets you nowhere. An awakening is when you say, jesus is who I serve. I just want to be more like him. How would he deal with this situation even when people are. Aren't looking? How do I live my life? How do I do my job? How do I. How do. What do I vote for? What do I look for in a spouse or a president or whatever? That's an awakening, and that's when the country changes. Other than that, there is no other way back. There's no secret sauce. There's no. There's no politician or party that can fix it. Only an awakening will Glenn Beck. Every generation gets tested one way or another. This is our test. Sometimes it's really loud and terrifying. Headlines, panic, chaos. Other times, the tests are kind of quiet. They come when the power is out and the short store shelves are empty and you're left asking yourself, am I ready for this moment? Do I? What do we have? Oh, duck sauce. Good. My patriot supply exists, so the answer can be yes right now. And they're running a special, a Black Friday Survival Special. Four weeks of emergency food from my Patriotsupply.com that will stay fresh for up to 25 years, plus $150 in free gear. That's a portable cook stove, fuel, fire starter, water purifier, bugout bag, and so much more. It's the kind of deal that doesn't just save you money, it saves worry. Because preparation is not paranoia. It's peace of mind knowing that God forbid something happens, you're ready and you're prepared for your family. It's available now through Black Friday. So head to my patriotsupply.com Glenn check out everything that's included. All the uncertainty in the world right now. Just can't afford to be unprepared. Go to mypatriotsupply.com Glenn mypatriotsupply.com glenn get prepared today.

[Stu Burguiere]

The torch is coming. Get all the details and every story we talk about every day as part of the email newsletter@glenn beck.com.

[Glenn Beck]

Hey, can I ask you for a favor? Would you say a prayer for some of my friends, like Megyn Kelly? I have been where they are and they are, they are under the gun big time. Everything that Megan is saying is being taken out of context by one side or another and they are surrounding her. And you know, I know her well enough to know no, he's going to beat her down. But just, just pray for people who do what we do, that we have wisdom, that we, that we see the truth, we know the truth, and we have the courage to say the truth. And when we're wrong, we have the courage to say we got it wrong. But it's getting more and more difficult to do this every day. And I thought it was difficult before, but say a prayer. And you don't have to pray for me. I mean, I'd love it. But pray for Megan in particular, if you would. I've got, I've got somebody on who is in just an amazing, amazing show from Amazon, House of David. If you haven't seen House of David yet, you have to. It's. Do you remember when, like, you know, biblical movies, I mean, they were good in the 50s and then they got really, really bad. And all through the 70s and 80s and 90s and, you know, early 2000, they were horrible. And then all of a Sudden they started getting. Getting really, really good. This one is amazing. This is as good as the Jesus. What is the Jesus one? The chosen. It's called House of David. It's on Amazon. And we have the guy who portrays David, Michael Iskendor, on with us. Michael, how are you?

[Michael Iskender]

I'm good. How are you? What an introduction. Thank you for that.

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, it's really. I mean, come on. Was there any time that you thought, oh, and this. This might. This could. I hope they do it right. And then you saw the finished product and you're like, wow, this is good.

[Michael Iskender]

Yeah. I mean, that was. You know, I try to still keep my head down and. And, you know, it's not. It's not finished till it's finished and season two is coming out. But, you know, I'm just so glad to. To be. To be hearing the response of how this show is really affecting people. So.

[Glenn Beck]

So can I talk to you about Goliath? Because Goliath is portrayed really as a giant, not just a big guy. I mean, he's. He's a giant.

[Michael Iskender]

Yes.

[Glenn Beck]

Talk to me about that.

[Michael Iskender]

Well, I'll tell you what. When I. When I first met Martin, I. He's a giant in real life. I went to. I went to the gym with him one time, and I, you know, I knew I'm gonna go get, you know, messed up. So I was prepared for that. And. And he made the workout for. For two and a half hours, and then I thought that the workout was done, and he was like, no, there's another half. And he. He. Martin Ford is a really dedicated man, and. And he just. He pushed me to the edge when it came to working out. And. And, you know, when it comes to his role as Goliath, he is someone that, you know, really just put in all the effort, both physically and emotionally, to really portray that part as best he can.

[Glenn Beck]

How long did it. How long did it take you to learn how to do the slingshot?

[Michael Iskender]

Three days. Wasn't too bad. Wow.

[Glenn Beck]

I heard that. I mean, I heard that you had problem with the sheep, that the sheep were. They were not helpful.

[Michael Iskender]

Well, the sheep. The sheep were actually really interesting. I remember when we first started filming, they. They put me in sheep training classes because when I get on set, they have to make sure that I'm not, you know, I'm not gonna get attacked by one of the sheep, and I'm comfortable around them. But the sheep. First day I show up to this training, and the sheep hated me. And you think that the guy who Plays David, you know, would be good with sheep, but it was the exact opposite.

[Glenn Beck]

No, I don't. I don't think that. I don't think that's natural. You're an actor. I don't know if that's.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yep.

[Glenn Beck]

Well, they picked me because I'm good with sheep.

[Timothy Albarino]

Okay.

[Michael Iskender]

I should have got classes from you. But no, I mean, really, I spent a lot of time with the shepherd and he would give me some really amazing lessons. He saw that I was having trouble and he said, you know, you should stick next to me because the sheep, when they see you with the shepherd, they'll know that you're with me, so they'll never leave my side. It's amazing to spend a lot of time with me. So. Okay. And then he said, I want you to know another thing. A bad shepherd is a shepherd who's behind the flock. And so you. You're gonna be a good shepherd. Show them where you're not gonna let them lead you. You're gonna. You're gonna lead them and you're gonna be in the front taking the risks and showing them on the path. And he's saying this and I'm like, I think I'm getting more than just a sheep lesson here. But it really helped in terms of understanding who David was as a person and his relationship to Christ and why David was chosen as king.

[Glenn Beck]

Is it true that you fasted before the audition? I mean, you're a Broadway guy.

[Michael Iskender]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I. Well, I sent in the first audition. I was really excited about it and it was a dream of mine for a long time. You know, one of these dreams that you don't tell anyone and you don't think that's ever gonna happen.

[Glenn Beck]

To play David specifically or to be.

[Michael Iskender]

In a. Yeah, really. To play David. To play David. And because I was inspired by the chosen and I wanted to. I wanted to like, maybe do a flashback scene as like a young David or something. And then when I was. When I got the audition and they originally said no, I was like, oh, you know, that. That would have been. That would have been a good opportunity. And then I got another audition. I called my mom and I said, mom, this doesn't happen. Like, can you believe it? And she said, michael, calm down. The one thing I need you to do, I need you to fast and I need you to pray. So. Yes, ma'. Am. And a week later, I was having lunch with John Irwin and he, you know, everything kind of took off from there. But, yeah, fasting and prayer, you know, I'm friends with.

[Glenn Beck]

I went to school with Jim Caviezel and I can't remember what grade he was in, maybe fifth grade, I think. But he went into. He went into church and all by himself and he prayed and he made a pact with God. Let me. All I want, Lord, is to play you in a movie someday. And I will live my life honorably to be able to be ready, but I want to play you. And so, you know, he told me when Mel called, he was like, yeah, I've been waiting for the call. It's an amazing thing.

[Michael Iskender]

Wow. I didn't know that story. That's beautiful.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. What do you think it is about the story that. I mean, this is the number one show, number one series on. On Amazon, on Amazon prime this year. What is it about the series that you think is connecting?

[Michael Iskender]

You know, I think it's different for everybody. I'll tell you. For me, the reason why this show means a lot to me is because David points us to Christ. And David is a person to me. He's the embodiment of what it means to be human and to make mistakes and yet they still find forgiveness. And his story is a very complex, long story, but he is a man that. He's known as the man after God's own heart. So for people to see that example, to see the man that God loves so much, that Jesus himself was known as the son of David, I think that's what's resonating with people. They see the Holy Spirit in the show. At least that's what I see. And that's who I do it for.

[Glenn Beck]

It's amazing to me how with an exception of one, the Bible, every single hero is so deeply flawed and David is so good, so good and then becomes really, really does one of the worst things I think I've ever read in the Bible. I mean, just really bad. Are you going to play. Do you have any idea if, assuming the ratings are there, how long of the story you're going to tell?

[Michael Iskender]

I really don't know. I mean, we're just trying to get through season two right now in the release. Hopefully pray for us that we can get a season three and we can keep telling the story. I don't know what Erwin and Gun have in this cooking up, but I. I pray that we, we tell as much of the story as possible. And I think it's important to see both the good and the bad. Like you said, to see this flawed human being, to see someone make mistakes and yet to see them get Back up and. And repent and ask for forgiveness and find grace in God. So we'll see. Pray for us.

[Glenn Beck]

You. I read someplace that you were a Broadway guy, and I thought, his career is not over yet. I mean, you might. I mean, are you prepared to always be David? I mean, the guy who's playing Jesus now, Jim Caviezel said, you know, not. It took years before he was allowed to play anything else. And I can't remember the guy who's playing Jesus now his whole life. He is Jesus now to a lot of people. Are you prepared to this be you for the rest of your life now and not, you know, going and going back and doing other things if. If that's the way it is?

[Michael Iskender]

You know what? God has taken me through so much in my life, and I'm. I'm sure he's going to get me through this. And if I'm known as the guy who plays David, I think that's actually a blessing. And I don't know what God houses in store, but I trust him. So when that time comes, I'll worry about it then. But for now, I'm having a great time portraying one of my favorite people in the Bible.

[Glenn Beck]

I have to just ask you a personal question, one for me. My daughter wants to be on Broadway. Could you talk her out of it in 30 seconds, please?

[Michael Iskender]

Oh, man, I don't know if I want to talk her out of it.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay, well, I have time for you to go now, Michael. Thank you so much. And we're looking forward. When does it premiere? This weekend. Is it out?

[Michael Iskender]

Well, episode eight is out on Wonder Project on Prime. This Sunday? Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay, good, good. Well, we'll be watching. Thank you so much, Michael. Appreciate it.

[Michael Iskender]

Thank you so much, Glenn. Have a good one. Take care.

[Glenn Beck]

If you haven't seen the first season, you really should see the. I mean, it's really, really good. It's one of those that I started watching, you know, and I stopped because I'm like, wait, Tanya, we should watch this together. And she came home, and so we started watching it, and I think we watched the whole season in, like, one weekend. It's one of those that you just. It's really good. Season two premieres this Sunday. All right, let me tell you about the burner launcher. Everybody has that one moment where they think, what would I do if something actually happened? You know, actually in a life or death situation, you hear a noise outside or the dog starts barking, and suddenly you're standing, you know, in the dark, holding. I don't Know, a TV remote. That's a relatable feeling to me. And that's why I kind of like the burner launcher, you know? Burner is a non lethal self defense tool that can stop an attacker without taking a life. It's legal in all 50 states, no permit required. Small enough to keep anywhere at home, in your car, even in your, your bag when you travel. I have to tell you, I wish I would have had this. The scariest thing that ever happened to me was I heard. My wife heard something and everybody's asleep in the house. Glenn, did you hear that? No, I didn't hear anything. Go back to sleep, honey. No, I'm telling you, there's somebody in the house. Get your gun. So I got my gun walking out and I get to the front living room and I'm like, I have a gun and I will shoot if there is somebody in the house. Identify yourself or I will shoot nothing. Heard the noise was around the corner and I, I had my gun aimed right around the corner, right at the corner, and I said, I'm coming. I'm turning the corner and I have a gun. If you don't identify yourself, I fear for my life and my family's life, and I will shoot you. And that's when my son said, dad, it's me. And he was like 12. And I mean, and had I not been that clear with him and he knew that I would shoot, he may not have. I could have shot my own son. Burna. It'll stop that from happening. By R N A.com Glenn learn more Berna.com/glenn Try before you buy at a Sportsman's Warehouse location near you. Bernard.com Glenn a wise man once said, trust in God and always keep watch on the gate. I don't know about you, but that.

[Stu Burguiere]

Sounds like a solid plan to me.

[Glenn Beck]

This is Glenn.

[Michael Iskender]

Becky.

[Glenn Beck]

I'm sorry. Just look up to CNN and it says, blue Origins mission to Mars, Blue origin. Is. Is that Bezos?

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah. Is that the Bezos one? I think it is, yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

I don't know. I get mixed up with all these billionaires with their rockets. Now, why is he going to Mars? He's going to Mars too. I mean, they should probably, you know, one of them should say, I'm going that way. You want to come? You know, I mean, I got room. I got room. Why don't we put some of your stuff on the.

[Stu Burguiere]

Well, I think there's a competition standpoint there that's a bit of an issue.

[Glenn Beck]

Bezos. Really? Really? Or did you just want a phallic shaped, you know, my rockets, bigger than your rocket kind of thing is that, I mean, I believe Elon actually wants to go. I don't think Bezos was up, you know, in his teen years going, someday I'm going to build a rocket to Mars.

[Stu Burguiere]

Can I ask you a quick Bezos related, do you buying or selling that the Washington Post might be turning towards sanity under Bezos's leadership?

[Glenn Beck]

No. What will happen is it will turn like the Wall Street Journal. The Wall Street Journal is really its op ed page. Very, very conservative. It's the most liberal reporting in New York. It's worse than the New York Times.

[Stu Burguiere]

So I mean that's even, that would be an improvement to where. Yeah, Washington Post has been.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, Washington Post has had some amazing op eds. You're like, wait, what?

[Stu Burguiere]

They've hired some really good people recently. It'd be nice that actually believe in free market.

[Glenn Beck]

I would love, I would just love to have balance. Like, I don't expect Barry Weiss to make, you know, CBS into the Blaze.

[Stu Burguiere]

Right.

[Glenn Beck]

You know, I don't, I don't think so. I just would like a fair shake. I just like both sides. That's all I want from news agencies. Both sides say both and just trying to be fair.

[Stu Burguiere]

Try like there was a headline, did I tell you this headline yesterday from the New York Times on the, on the Epstein thing?

[Glenn Beck]

No.

[Stu Burguiere]

And it was after their friendship broke up. I'm paraphrasing. Epstein believed he had the evidence to, quote, take Trump down. Now, if you were to read that, what would you think? You'd immediately think, oh, my gosh, he had sex with kids and he's got this evidence on him. When you read the story, not in even some versions of the sub headline, you had to get into the story to find out they're talking about his, his. He believed he could take him down because of his business interests.

[Glenn Beck]

Unbelievable.

[Stu Burguiere]

Nothing to do with the sex scandal stuff at all.

[Glenn Beck]

The latest too, is that when he said, you know, the dogs is not barking. The latest is now that. No, no, that's. He thought he, he was thinking that I think Trump is the guy who turned me in on this. Did you know that? I mean, it's, it's incredible how dishonest they are. So I don't have a lot of faith in the Washington Post or cbs, but I have hope is GL.