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Did We Just Debunk a Piece of the JFK Puzzle? | Guests: Shane Stevens & Scott Robertson | 3/27/25
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Glenn Beck
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Jason Buttrell
Yeah.
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Glenn Beck
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Glenn Beck
The dark and embrace the fire. The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck Program. Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program live from 610 W I O D in Miami, Florida. We've got quite a Thursday podcast for you. We're gonna, we're gonna start where. Where I left off last night on our special on the JFK Files. Stu watched it and I don't want to go over it. There's a lot to talk about. We're gonna hit that a little bit here, but saving that for a little later on in the program where I have a couple of guests coming in. What I also want to talk about is I. And maybe just because it's JFK week on the program, but I. Something's wrong with this signal thing. Something is, is not right. And I just want to express a couple of ideas that maybe we should consider. Beginning in 60 seconds, first let me tell you about Lear Capital. Simple yet terrifying question. What are you going to do when. Not if. When the next economic crisis hits, when another 2008 hits. What are you going. If the dollar collapses, and believe me, it. It could, you will lose most of your money because your. Your dollar will be almost of no value overnight. What then? If this sounds too crazy, just remember that I've got a story today. In fact, it's in the show prep@glennbeck.com came out today where Europe is saying, prepare to the people of Europe, prepare for war. Okay, that would do it. Listen, anything that you have saved for retirement, anything that you have in the bank, if our dollar collapses, it will become worthless pretty much overnight. Act now. The hedge against insanity, against the dollar collapse has always been precious metals like gold and silver. Protect yourself. Call Lear capital today at 800-957-Gold. 800-957-Gold. Ask them for your their 4200 dol gold report and how you can get up to $15,000 in precious metals, free gold or silver, with a qualifying purchase. It's 800-957-gold. 800, 957 gold. Well, let's say hello to Stu. Hello, Stu. How are you? Our executive producer, Glenn.
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Stu Burguiere
How are you?
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Glenn Beck
I'm good. I'm tired. I was helping Judicial Watch raise some money yesterday. They are such a good organization.
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Stu Burguiere
Oh, yeah.
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Glenn Beck
Uh, so I'm here in Miami, Florida. I was at the Doral. It. It is so weird to be at all these Donald Trump hotels and everything. It's just weird that he's the President of the United States and he's got all these hotels. Um, but I think it's different than it was last time. I think last time he was in office, I think he was really, really hurt. Those hotels and the business, really hurt. Try getting a room at a Donald Trump hotel now.
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Stu Burguiere
Yeah, that definitely seems like something totally different from the first.
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Glenn Beck
Yeah, it does. And I'm glad. I'm glad. All right, let me. First of all, did you watch the show last night?
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Stu Burguiere
I did, yeah.
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Glenn Beck
Yeah. Okay, so what'd you think?
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Stu Burguiere
It was really, really entertaining and engaging. I think, you know, it was first of all, the recreation of the shot that you had to do, which I would argue was maybe a more difficult shot than what Lee Harvey Oswald actually had to do.
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Glenn Beck
I think it was. I think it was.
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Stu Burguiere
Yeah. I mean, just at one point, you see the truck bouncing through this field. You know, that was. I mean, I Dr. On Dallas roads. They're not. There's a lot of Potholes, but it's not that bad. Not that.
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Glenn Beck
No, not a dealy pothole. No, that was nicely paved.
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Stu Burguiere
Yes, it was nicely paved. But yeah, it was really interesting, you know, really good interviews. I don't know, I mean, maybe a lot of people took it in on YouTube or Pluto, which had a lot of really good stuff. But you can get the extended stuff is where I watched it on BlazeTV and there was a lot to take in. Interviews were really interesting and. And it's a lot to cover.
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Glenn Beck
I don't want to get into it yet, but did it make you think or open your mind and go, well, now, wait a minute, maybe.
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Stu Burguiere
Yeah, Well, I was going to bring this up to you. I thought it was interesting that. I mean, talking to you here on radio about this, as it was getting closer and then talking to you a little bit off the air about it, it felt like you were more. I don't know if you'd been won over by some of the CIA involvement stuff, but it seemed like you were more, more open to that than I thought you were going into the Special.
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Glenn Beck
So, you know, I was, because as we're piecing it together, you know, we have all of our researchers, everybody was working on the JFK files and, you know, I saw bits and pieces come across my desk and they're like, look at this, look at this, look at this. But it wasn't until it was all assembled and I started reading the script on how it was all coming together that it clicked in my mind that, no, there's something really wrong here. At the same time, I am convinced that Lee Harvey Oswald made the shot by himself. It happened that way because I'm, you know, they said on the Special last night, you're a good shot. I don't consider myself a good shot with a rifle. I'm a good shot with a pistol. I'm a good shot with a shotgun. But I, I've. I don't shoot rifles, you know, just not because I don't like to or anything else. I just have never gone hunting because I just don't have the time and don't shoot with a rifle and a scope. Haven't done it probably in five years, maybe. So I don't consider myself a good shot with a rifle. But, you know, they didn't consider Lee Harvey Oswald a good shot either. And if I could make that shot on that field where the, where the target was bouncing as much as it was, and I took three shots and I hit all three, he easily could have done it. Easily could have done it, I believe. And he. Only. He. Only he missed one and hit the other two. So I was convinced that, yes, he did it. But I'm also seeing, and I think it's because of the timing of this, seeing what I'm seeing happening in our country today, seeing what Doge has exposed, going on with things like USAID, etc. What's happening right now is exactly the same pattern. Exactly. And that, I think, is what hit me while I was doing the show. As I was putting it up on the chalkboard and stuff is just all baking in my head, and I'm like, I think this is right. I really think this is right. So we'll get into that later. Let me. Let me. Let me take you to another thing that involves the intelligence community. So there were these hearings up on Capitol Hill, and it all turned in about Signal. Okay. And what happened with Signal and the, you know, the war plans that were released to a. An Atlantic reporter. And it's bothered me because I thought, who has this reporter? And then, Stu, you and I talked about it on Monday. Well, you know, Waltz was a congressman, so he might have had that in his Rolodex, but not necessarily in your Signal Rolodex. And then Wallace has come out and said, no, I don't have his number. That's not what happened. Then they came out and said, maybe it was somebody in his office. And then they came out and said, it wasn't somebody in his office. So how did it get there? And I've been. And again, I would like you to talk me down from the conspiracy tree here, but I think it's worth considering what's going on. I've been to Washington. I don't know how many times in the last five years I've had congressmen ask me, can you leave your cell phone outside? Sure. Let's go for a walk. Okay. You're carrying any electronics? Do you have a. Do you have an Apple Watch? No, I don't. Okay. And then they'll say outside as we're walking, quietly, the CIA is monitoring everything that we're doing in Congress. They're monitoring all of us. And two of them have told me we've been threatened behind closed doors, we've been threatened by the CIA. And that was a little scary to hear that. And I've heard it over and over and over again. And then when I see the JFK special, which you can see at BlazeTV, you'll see that's what they were doing in the 1960s. They were wiretapping people. You don't have to do all that wiretapping. You don't have to do that. I mean it's so easy for them to spy on congressmen and senators and people in the administration. And, and they also, at the time, they were also orchestrating things. And when they felt threatened, they upped the orchestration of things to hurt the President at the time. And that's kind theory that we were laying out from the JFK files. I'm not putting, I, I don't know how deep their involvement went with the intel community, but I, I believe they had to be involved. And either they just saw Oswald coming and just let him do it, you know what I mean? And just all of a sudden they're, he, they're following him everywhere. Except on that day gue where did we put our Lee Harvey Oswald? So they may not have orchestrated or done anything, but they, the point is they didn't do anything on that day. So let's go back to Signal. This meeting that we've seen, this testimony where it was all about SIGNAL and the failure of the government to actually keep our Houthi war plans secret, which as I told you on Monday, I have a problem with. There's a problem. The more we dig into it, the worse it gets. That testimony came at something that had been scheduled for all of the intel community and the dni. So everybody knew that that hearing was coming up. And just before that hearing, these war plans are released. And so that hearing is no longer about all the threats around the world. It becomes about Donald Trump and this out of control group that are just so irresponsible they'd include a, a hostile journalist to have access to the top secret war planning. Now maybe, and I mean that sincerely, maybe, but it seems awfully coincidental and awfully convenient. So the use of Signal, everybody's clutching their pearls except for the government. So Tulsi Gabbards in how in in front of the House Intelligence Committee and she testifies that SIGNAL comes pre installed on government devices. This policy she says backs, backs up to a CISA recommendation during the Biden administration. What is the cisa? This is the organization that we know because of other shows, we've done other reporting because of Michael Shellenberger. We know that is a, an organization that is helping manipulate the media and helping manipulate the algorithms and information on people. Okay? It's a horrible, horrible organization. So why is the CISA recommending to put a private app on all of the government computers? Why would we do that when we have our own secure app. So the testimony comes just a day after CIA Director John Radcliffe tells the Senate that the very first thing that happened when he went into office after he was confirmed is texts came in. I'm quoting, text came into my office and uploaded signal on all of my devices. Now, that's odd, because why is the United States intelligence community so trusting of a private encryption app? I mean, that's. That's odd, isn't it? Especially if you know you're supposed to be on government apps. There's supposed to be a record. Now, they say that, well, they have strict rules on this. You have to report it within 20 days. But if you're on Signal, the. The conversation disappears. So how are you going to know anyway? Why. Why would you allow the government to. Government officials to go off of a government app to use a secure app that we supposedly can't get into? Where. And then just trust everybody that you're going to report on what was seen. It doesn't make any sense at all. Now, where's this app come from? How did the name of the journalist from the Atlantic? How did his name. How did. How did. Did waltz just click on. Because this has happened before. You're sending out an email, you go to your contacts, you push a name, and then you realize you've just sent, you know, I don't know, you know, a hot picture of yourself to your Aunt Margaret. You're like, no, okay, we've all been there, Glenn.
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Stu Burguiere
We've all been there. Poor Aunt Margaret. But, yeah, we've all been there.
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Glenn Beck
Yeah, we've all been there. So is it incompetence? Which it could be. It could be. Or is it the biggest stroke of luck in the history of sudden strikes of luck ever for the journalist and for the CIA? So the public went into speculation mode, and we did, too. We immediately said it's a stupid mistake and try to make sense of it. And we want to make sure this gets wrong. But did Walsh click on the wrong name? Well, that doesn't make sense. And it no longer fits what the White House and what Walsh is saying. And we'll get there in 60 seconds. Standby.
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Glenn Beck
So I'm going to be called a giant conspiracy theorist for this, and you know, that's fine. Everything is a conspiracy theory until it's proven to be correct, which I have a pretty good track record of. But all of this is happening because the government is not fostering trust. It hasn't for a long time. We use, you know, a good society is built and operates on trust. And you have to have trust. You have to trust your neighbor. You have to trust the people that you know. You work with the rest of society, the people at your bank. You know, maybe in the old days we even trusted our government, which was a mistake. Well, at least our local government. That's probably better. But over time, our values and the way of life began to erode away into dust and trust has gone with it. Who do you trust today? I can tell you that circle is so small on me. It's certainly not the circle of trust that I had 30 years ago. When you're making big financial decisions, it's going to have a long term impact on you and your family for decades to come. You have to be able to trust the people that you're working with. Now when you're working with a bank or anybody who is, you know, giving you a loan, who are they working for? Are they incentivized to work for you or to sell you this loan? Because they're actually working for the bank? This is where American Financing comes in. They don't ask you to trust them. They're not incentivized to work for the bank or sell you anything. They're salary based. That means they work for you and not for commission. And they can help you pay down your debt and save money. I've seen and heard testimonials from people in this audience. In fact, Sarah is one of them that works with me. I just want you to know we use the things we believe in, the clients that we have here on the air, we believe in them. Sarah, how much are you saving every month? About $500 a month. $500 a month. Pretty sweet. Give American Financing a call today, 800-906-2440 8009062440 or go to americanfinancing.net that's americanfinancing.net 10 seconds. Station ID. So did Waltz click on the wrong name with the, with the app and the war gaming that was going on? Well, it didn't make sense because Goldberg is no friend and they didn't know one another. But maybe, maybe he had him in his contact list because, you know, sometimes I have people that are journalists that I don't Agree with on in my contact book. But check this out from Mike Walls on NBC. He said, quote, a staffer was not responsible. You've got somebody else's number on somebody else's contact. So of course, I didn't see this guy in the group. It looked like someone else. Now, whether he did it deliberately or it happened in some other technical mean is something we're trying to figure out now. Let me give you part of that again. It was somebody else's number on someone else's contact and some other technical mean. Now, what the hell does that mean? Well, he's describing, you know, if you try to text your wife, you know, or your husband, and then the number has been changed to somebody else's, and you end up texting your shopping list, you know, for the grocery store, to an electrician, okay, the contact said it was your wife, but the number had been changed for some reason. Now, who has the technical capability to do that, or as Waltz just said, technical mean to pull that off? Who could reach into a government lockdown device and mess with contacts and numbers in signal? Well, I'm just spitballing, but I know the United States intelligence community can do that. We know the entire foreign policy apparatus at large is not happy with the Trump administration. He's mandating that we step back, disassociate with operations having to do with regime change, disengage from Ukraine, et cetera, et cetera. And they do not like him. They like him as much as they liked John F. Kennedy. And it is exactly the same thing that we have found in the newly released JFK files. Jfk, as we said on the special last night, was at war with the CIA. There's no other way to describe it. He was at war. He first fired Director Ellen Dulles. Dulles. Ever heard of Dulles airport in Washington, D.C. dulles was the first CIA director. Everybody loved Allen Dulles, except for JFK. He fired him. When he came in. He attacked one of the primary sources of global operations called the ica, the International Cooperation Administration. He says this was just a CIA money laundering system. So he abolished that and replaced him with something new that was just going to serve the world called usaid. Huh? Another CIA money laundering system. This is Glenn Beck. More in a minute.
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Glenn Beck
Wait until you hear the rest of the story here on the Signal app. Next, I want to give you a theory, and this is just a theory. I don't know yet, but I am. I don't trust our intelligence community at all. And when it comes to this Signal story, I just want to throw something out. And this has really come clear to me as a theory that this whole Signal thing is kind of a setup in a way. Let me go take you back to what we found out through the JFK files. First of all, JFK fires Director Dulles, the one of the founding members of the CIA, and he does it because there's a Schlesinger memo that comes out and says the CIA is out of control. It's doing all kinds of stuff. It's laundering money through our NGOs, through government institutions. I mean, exactly what's happening today. And then he goes after their primary source of global operations, which was an agency called the ica, the International Cooperation Administration. He says, I'm shutting that down. He shuts it down. Everybody goes crazy. You're gonna destroy all of the things, the good things we're doing in the world. Does any of this sound familiar? And he opens up USAID instead. Well, the CIA is like, oh, okay, well, oh boy, we're really upset. Okay, well, we'll have to live with usaid. And then they infiltrate that and they do the same thing that the ICA was doing. They just start laundering money and doing ops that nobody knows about through usaid, just like they did before. We also know from the JFK files that the CIA infiltrated US Media outlets. We know that's happened now. They used media as a weapon. We know they've. They're doing that now. They sh. They shaped the opinions and leveraged journalists and their contacts. We know that's happening. Uh, one of those included a contact tied directly to the then Attorney General, rfk. They were spying on many people, including Barry Goldwater and rfk. They infiltrated private. Private businesses like the airline Pan Ams. They also were repeating almost just different names, almost exactly the same pattern, which leads to an assassination on the President of the United States. So I wanted you to put that in your frame of mind. It doesn't mean that what I'm about to suggest to you happened. I'm suggesting that maybe we should be very, very careful, because we are dealing with one of the most dangerous agencies ever to grace the planet called the CIA and American Intelligence. So let's go back to Signal. What does this have to do with the latest mistake with signal? I told you. I've talked to several members of Congress in the Senate that have said they're spying on us. We know it. We've even been been threatened in, you know, behind closed doors by the intelligence agencies. So we know they're spying on our Congress. And. And they have been saying, Congress, the intel community has been saying, you got to use these devices because we fear there are things going on with foreign countries. Well, the way you would handle that is not to send out signal and install signal from a private corporation and install it on everybody's computer in the administration. You wouldn't do that to everybody's computer in the House and the Senate. You would say you use this because this is our secured router. Right. Okay. Signal itself has an interesting background. It was developed by an organization called Open Whisper Systems. They received millions of dollars in government funds. Wait a minute. What? They received millions of dollars in government funds to create signal. The funds flowed from. Wait for this one. The Open Technology Fund, a government organization that was created back in 2012 under the Obama administration, under Radio Free Asia. Now, Radio Free Asia, what is that? That's a message into China saying, hey, things aren't really like they're telling you. Why did the CIA, through Radio Free Asia, create Signal? Something that has nothing to do with broadcasting information into China. Right. And where did Radio Free Asia what have we heard about that in the last two weeks? Yes. The Trump administration just closed Radio Free Asia, Radio Free Europe, because they said they were direct weapons of the CIA during the Cold War. And then it is morphed into a direct weapon against us. Okay? So the connection between the CIA and organizations like Radio Free Europe and Asia is well documented. And then they take funding through Radio Free Asia and they develop something with government money that the CIA is involved in and create the signal messaging app. And then that same CIA, which we now know has been doing things to create revolutions not only around the world, but inside the United States, and they are desperate to hold on to power. They install that signal app. Okay, all right. Also, another coincidence. WikiLeaks published Vault 7 that stated the CIA had tools that led them let them access Signal and WhatsApp. Tucker Carlson went through this. Remember when he said, I've been hacked. My signal messages were hacked by the nsa. Now, maybe it was random luck for Goldberg, you know, a major opposition journalist randomly got into the government cabinet level signal group chat. Okay? And maybe the CIA no longer infiltrates the media anymore like they did in the 60s. And maybe they no longer infiltrate U.S. private companies anymore like they did in the 60s. And maybe they don't surveil presidential campaigns anymore like they did to Barry Goldwater or rfk, or forget about this one, the one they did to Donald Trump. Maybe that was the exception. And it's also probably just a big coincidence that the intelligence community apparently thought so highly of the signal app that they immediately rushed to install it on every device when we're worried about leaks. And they did it for everyone in the government. You want to have any secret conversations that'll disappear here, put it on this device. And by the way, we can't get into it. Nobody can. Huh? And maybe all of this is a coincidence that this story was released the day before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence met for hearings. I mean, what a perfect storm of good luck for those who stand against freedom. I'm not sure it has anything at all to do that this story dominated the entire hearing or how it caused even conservatives to claim that the Trump administration has committed a huge mistake. And maybe it did, but there are too many smoking guns around this one to take it at face value. And I'm not really saying this to you as much as I'm saying this to the President of the United States and the administration. You must find out, did. Did Waltz act actually accidentally fat finger. And put the Atlantic journalist on that. What actually happened and it is important for the administration to not use the WhatsApp because that is a false sense of security. You may not be feeding our enemies overseas, but you may very well be feeding our enemies that are not foreign but domestic. I think we should all be careful on what's happening here. We brought Jason Buttrell in. He is military and global affairs expert and he is also the head writer of the Glenn Beck TV program. Welcome. How are you, Jason?
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Stu Burguiere
Good, Glenn.
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Glenn Beck
Thanks. So your thoughts on this?
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Stu Burguiere
I think that the. So to clarify some of the CIA connections through signal. What's interesting is just like usaid, they don't publicly state, oh, the CIA is using USAID to pull off soft power and regime change things all over the world. It's equally fuzzy as far as how much funding and direction they're giving. Organizations like Radio Free Asia, Radio Free Europe. Back in the day, it was not fuzzy at all. It was well documented. Then when they changed it and they did a lot of manipulation around. We kind of like, we're not exactly sure how involved the CIA is.
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Glenn Beck
And that's one of the, it doesn't matter as long as they have it, as long as they have a back door. And what Mike Wall said on NBC the other day, I don't know this for sure, but what he said on NBC, and let me see if I can find this exact quote here. He said a staffer wasn't responsible. You have somebody else's number on somebody else's contact. So of course, I didn't see this guy in the group. It looked like someone else. Now, whether he did it a staffer deliberately or it happened in some other technical mean is something we're trying to figure out. What he's saying is the CIA might have just gone in because they have full access and they could change things. They could make one number look like another person and they could have added it and nobody would have known. And there's no fingerprints because it's the CIA and they have access into that app.
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Stu Burguiere
Yeah, let me, let me put it into this context. Imagine it's not the government for just a second. Imagine if you work at a company and the company who is known to, you know, use your emails and all that stuff against you. Let's just say, you know, there's, I don't know, some kind of employment issue and they pull up your email, they, or maybe even put up some text messages. If they said you must put this app on all of your phones, would you be suspicious about that? Would you think that? And I say that. Because personally, I've worked for a company in the past where they were like, you have to use a phone that.
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Glenn Beck
Has this protocol on it.
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Stu Burguiere
And I was like, that's weird. Like, why do I have to use this phone? I want to use another phone.
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Glenn Beck
No, you have to use this phone that has this protocol on it.
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Stu Burguiere
Well, I asked one of our IT guys later, again, this is another company. I went back and goes, oh, well, let me show you why. He took me back to the servers, and he pulled up every A folder on every single person in the company that worked there. He clicked into it, and it gave him access to every single person's phone. He could read their text messages. He could see the photographs. He could see everything. This is very obvious, basic stuff, if you know about it. And like in mobile, stuff in general or how exchange services work. Now, in that context, does this make any sense? Does it make any sense that the government, the people that are supposed to be the most suspicious, the CIA, nsa, all that people, all those people just blanket trust this phone application. It makes no sense. And why you use it. Even if they did put it on your phone, why would you ever use it?
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Glenn Beck
Right?
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Stu Burguiere
Like, I would be very suspicious of that arrangement. Why wouldn't you say, hey, DARPA just create for us a private messaging system.
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Glenn Beck
And we have one. We have one. We do have one. Also. Also, the policy to make sure that SIGNAL is on all devices for government officials. That goes back to a CISA recommendation. Can you just remind people who the CISA is, Jason?
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Stu Burguiere
Oh, what's it stand for? Hang on, let me pull it up.
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Glenn Beck
I don't remember what it stands for either, but it is. It's cybersecurity, basically. Yeah. It's the cybersecurity arm that was put together under the Biden administration that we have found is absolutely nefarious. They were the ones that were spearheading a lot of the spying, a lot of the disinformation. They were the ones working directly with the. The big social apps to force them and say, hey, hey, hey, stop with this. They are. Their fingerprints are all over almost everything that is bad. They're not protecting the American people. They are monitoring and hoaxing the American people. Why would we trust SIGNAL if they're the ones that said, yeah, no, you can trust it. Go ahead.
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Stu Burguiere
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Glenn Beck
You don't trust it? No. No government official. And I don't think you should either. You should ever use Signal. It's clearly a government sponsored or government collusion or government hacked app. Don't trust it.
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Stu Burguiere
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Glenn Beck
In my opinion. Thank you, Stu. In my opinion. All right. Ever come across a product that makes you think, geez, why am I now just hearing about it? This should have been around forever. That's the way I feel about the burner launcher. Non lethal weapons for protection have been around forever. I mean, you've got mace, but Mace? The guy's got to be right on top of you to have mace work. You also have, you know, a taser. Really? Okay, you can have all of that. But that's if you don't mind your attacker being right on top of you. But how about something that fires like a gun, has a range of 60ft and will incapacitate that attacker for 40 minutes while you get to safety and get the police on the scene? That's what the Byrna launcher does. It uses CO2 to fire kinetic and tear gas rounds that will neutralize pretty much any threat, giving you the power to protect yourself and your family without having to use deadly force. So why have these not been around for decades? Why haven't. Why didn't I think about this? It's Byrna B Y R N A dot com Glenn 10% off your purchase. It's by R N A dot com Glenn Berna dot com Glenn this is Glenn. Becky, welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. We're glad you're here. Coming up in just a minute, we have Shane Stevens on with us. He is the grandson of Billy Soul Estes. He owns an audio tape that allegedly links LBJ to JFK and the assassination. Wait until you hear this story. We. We had it on last night and if you watch it, if you watch my Wednesday night special on YouTube tonight, you'll get most of it. You, I mean, you get about three quarters of it. The interviews are all extended on the Blaze and they are really, truly remarkable, especially the Shane Stevens one. This guy came out and has shown this tape for the first time publicly a few months ago. We've done all of our homework on it to make sure that it is as legitimate as we can verify. But wait until you hear the connections and what he says about the JFK shooting and the involvement of lbj. Don't know if it's true, but it also kind of Fits right into CIA was part of this. That's coming up in just a second. Standby. Your data is like gold to hackers. They're selling your passwords, bank details and private messages.
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Glenn Beck
Face the dog and embrace the fire. The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This, this is the Glenn Beck Program. Hello America. I'm in miami today at 6:10 wiod and I want to thank a good friend and the program director of wiod, Grace Blazer, who actually I was about to take a job with her when she was working at CBS in Philadelphia. And instead I chose to do this network thing with Premier. She was our first programmer to bring and pick up the show, I believe. And now she's at 610 wiod and it was good to see her again today. Thank you IOD for your hospitality. Now on today's podcast, we are really focusing on what we did last night on our JFK special. If you missed it, it's one of the best specials we've done. It is really incredible. You can see it on YouTube tonight. But the entire thing, it's about, it's about 55 minutes on YouTube or if you saw it on, you know, on any other network. But if you get it with the Blaze, it's about an hour and a half. And we're gonna, we're gonna go over some of it here with one guy that we had on last, last night. He's on with us now. Shane Stevens is his name. He's the grandson of Billy Soul Estes. Who is that? Well, he'll tell you the story, but he has a tape from his grandfather along with the guy who was the head of the DNC at the time talking about how LBJ had JFK killed. We believe this to be an accurate tape recorded at the time. What other evidence do we have? Wait until you hear Shane's conversation. He's in with us in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about our sponsor this half hour. It is Patriot Mobile. Morality and freedom of the environment in which you raise your family depends largely on whether you're building a society in our own image or in the image of our creator. The founders tried to create a society in the image of the latter. And here in our modern age, we do the other one. Build everything in our image which is not really good. The only way to get our society back on path that we want is to change the hearts and minds of not only ourselves but all those that we love and are around us. We have to do, we have to change in many different ways. And one of them is simple. Just support the companies that share your values. And one of the best companies like that that I know is Patriot Mobile. They offer the same great service, the same big networks because they're all on the same towers. They offer more than that. They also have a great US based customer service team. They're way more reasonably priced. They don't hide any of the things that they're spending money on. Like if you're Verizon. Oh gee. Oh yeah. We're donating big money to Planned Parenthood. I don't want to be a part of you. Verizon. So all kinds of freedom supporting causes that they cover. You can read all about it. They are God and country and a Great company. Patriot mobile.com Beck Call and join the movement now. 972 Patriot 972 Patriot promo code Beck patriotmobile.com Beck we welcome our executive producer Stuart and Shane Stevens, the grandson of Billy Solestice. Hello, Shane. How are you?
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Shane Stevens
I'm wonderful. How are you?
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Glenn Beck
I'm good. It was interesting and I don't mean that in a bad way. It was really interesting meeting you. When we got together to listen to the tape, your story of your grandfather. I still don't know if I fully understand it, but it is fascinating what you and your family have gone through, beginning with your grandfather. Can you begin to tell me first who your grandfather is or was and what happened to him?
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Shane Stevens
Absolutely, yeah. So my grandfather was Billy Sol Estes and the Estes family, that goes back to 1800s, they were CO founders of the town of Clyde, Texas, and still have a farm out there to this day as part of their original homestead. And you know, he grew up poor with a bunch of brothers and sisters in Clyde. And he was given a, I think a pig for his maybe 8th or 9th birthday. And then that turned into a whole flock of lambs by the time he was 12 or 13. Then at 16, he had a huge herd of cattle. And you know, he basically just always had a business mind and wanted to be something. And he started, I think it was Roosevelt perhaps that he was sending letters to about the grain shortages and the droughts in Tex. And so he helped auction that off and just he became one of the top 10 outstanding young men under the U.S. chamber of Commerce by the time he was in his mid-20s. And then by the time 1960 or 62 rolled around, he was worth 400 million. So he built an empire out in West Texas and started came from nothing and you know, sadly ended up passing away with nothing because it was all taken away.
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Glenn Beck
And let's go into that before we go into the story of the tape and the assassination. Let's go into that. Your grandfather ended up going to prison. Why did he go to prison?
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Shane Stevens
So that was a trial to where in the early 60s you had two big scandals going. One was the Billy Solesta scandal and the other one was the Bobby Baker scandal, both of them surrounding lbj. And there were a lot of other folks involved in Pay to play with LBJ here in Texas. But these were the two that the Kennedys and really I think Bobby is AG and JFK were focused in on. And so they sent somewhere between 50 and 60 FBI agents down to look into my granddad and his dealings with lbj. And it really circled around a couple of things. One was cotton allotments and then the second was grain storage contracts. And kind of tied in with that were these anhydrous ammonia storage tanks. That was a big new deal at the time.
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Glenn Beck
Okay, so to not get into all the details, was your grandfather guilty of any kind of stuff with lbj?
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Shane Stevens
Yes, he was. As far as he had given LBJ a lot of money and then they had back end deals to where LBJ would get, say, 10% of business and that would go to him. And so, you know, it's not nothing that doesn't happen today. You know, it still happens on a level. Yeah, but he was certainly guilty of that.
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Glenn Beck
So the Kennedys were after, really, lbj, not your grandfather, but the closest they could get to LBJ was your grandfather. Right. And along with others. And why were the Kennedys so intent on this? Because LBJ was the vice president.
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Shane Stevens
Yeah, they brought LBJ on not because they wanted to, but because they knew that he could carry the vote in the Southern states and they needed those votes. So that was part of their goal of getting into the White House. And once they got in, and the corruption and kind of the evil of Lyndon was a huge concern to them, they wanted him off of the ticket, so they went after him. They were about to do a big publicity release on lbj, talking about these scandals he was involved in to start to destroy his character and force him out if he wouldn't willingly step out.
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Glenn Beck
And it's. It's kind of amazing that you would say destroy his character because as we know now, maybe not then. This guy was really bad. I mean, really bad. He was a huge racist who he gets credit for, you know, the civil rights movement and everything else. He. He was not a civil rights leader in the least, and a big racist and, and, and really a dirty guy.
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Shane Stevens
Yeah. In fact, there's stories that I really don't even want, we can't talk about here, but in person, I could share about MLK and some things that potentially happen, how that got out of control. But he was about it for the votes and preserving the Democratic Party. It was not based on his personal belief on the civil rights activity. However, my granddad was absolutely all about civil rights and helping there.
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Glenn Beck
Okay, so, Shane, your grandfather is now taking the heat. He goes to jail for lbj. When does he make this tape and who is he talking to?
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Shane Stevens
Perfect.
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Glenn Beck
Yeah.
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Shane Stevens
So it was around, I think, 71, 72 when he got out. And there's a very short timeline in which it could have been done. And he was talking with Cliff Carter or Clifton Carter, and he's what?
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Glenn Beck
Carter.
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Shane Stevens
So Cliff Carter was LBJ's right hand man. I'm talking back to the 40s when LBJ ran this, I think it was like Young Men's Youth association or something along those lines. Cliff Carter worked for him there. Cliff Carter took over that organization when LBJ went on to run for office. And then once LBJ got in office, then Cliff Carter ended up coming to him after he served in the military for a while. And then he was basically his bag man, which means he would go collect the money from people. He was his right hand man on all aspects of getting things done. He was kind of his lieutenant, I guess you could say, on making things happen. And then he went on to run the DNC for a while in the 60s. And at the time of this tape, in 71, 72, my granddad had gotten out of prison, let's say in July of that year. Well, Cliff died perhaps in October or November of that year. What we had always heard is Cliff Carter died three days after this tape was recorded. And I always thought that was suspect, but after looking up these timelines of when my granddad got out of prison, when Cliff Carter passed away, I'm like, well, nothing. Worst case scenario, it was within a couple few months.
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Glenn Beck
So tell me, tell me about what's on the tape now.
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Shane Stevens
All right. Well, as you go through, I mean, these guys are talking as simple and plain as day. And I remember the first time I heard it, it took my breath away. That probably had some tears because it was just as blatant, frank, open, simple dialogue as if it'd been discussed a thousand times before about how LBJ was involved and behind and a key central figure in the assassination of the president. And then they go on to say, well, could it have been handled any other way after all the embarrassment he had suffered from LBJ and what the Kennedys were trying to do? And like, well, no, no, he couldn't have beat him and there's no way he's going to get back on the ticket. So he, I guess to accomplish his goals, he had to do what he had to do. And then, you know, they go through and talk about some other kind of interesting figures and characters within it that dug into and found some fascinating connections with as well.
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Glenn Beck
But there, there's a mention of an assassin.
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Shane Stevens
Yes.
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Glenn Beck
Tell me what that's about.
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Shane Stevens
So I talk about Malcolm Wallace and Mack Wallace. Mike Wallace can be, you know, multiple different names, but again, easy to look up. Him and his history of, say it was in the, you know, 40s, 50s, something along those lines. LBJ's sister Josepha was dating at Doug Kinzer And Doug Kinzer was a, I think it was a golf pro and at University of Texas or something along those lines, some golf course here. And Mack Wallace had been a very high performing individual, I think, at ut. But whatever reason Mac Wallace went, and I'd heard it was because Doug Kinzer was beaten up on Josepha or he had too much information about lbj, but Mack Wallace went and killed him. I mean, just blatant open, killed him in front of folks, got arrested and went to trial, only got sentenced to five years. And then LBJ immediately ensured that that sentence was adjudicated and he did not serve time for cold blooded murder. And after that, LBJ had Mack Wallace as his guy.
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Glenn Beck
All right, I want to take a quick break and then I want to come back and ask you to tie all of this together because you've talked to Mac's grandchildren, if I'm not mistaken. And why were they talking, your grandfather and Cliff, Why were they talking about lbj? Why were they openly discussing this? We'll do that in just 60 seconds. First, somewhere out there right now, there's a woman who is scared. Maybe that's you. You have a very difficult decision to make, the most difficult of your entire life. And hanging in the balance is not just your own peace of mind, but a life that is at stake. And your life really in some ways, inside of this woman is a new baby, a life. And how is she going to provide for a future for that child? And she may have been convinced by the media and everybody else that this is not really a baby. But inside she knows. Well, probably it is, but she doesn't want to think of that because she has no support whatsoever in her life. Nobody's going to help her. She doesn't have the money. She doesn't know what to do. The Ministry of Preborn is there to help you make the right decision. They're going to offer a free ultrasound because when you hear the baby's heartbeat, when you see the baby, you realize that is my baby. That's my child. This is, this is an amazing, an amazing thing because they also, moms usually go into these centers and they say that they're going to get an abortion because they feel trapped. There's nobody to support them. Them. But these people want to help you. Not just with the ultrasound, but they will help you for the next two years of your baby's life to make sure you have all the clothing and the food and whatever it is that you need to be able to raise your child and get your Feet underneath you. I want you to dial £250 and say the keyword baby. If you'd like to make a donation, $28 sponsors one ultrasound. It's £250, keyword baby. Or visit preborn.com that's preborn.com, beth. Sponsored by Preborn 10 seconds. Station ID. Okay, so tell me why your grandfather made this tape, do you think, and why they were talking about how dangerous LBJ is.
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Shane Stevens
Yeah, so he had always said that he had tapes, some from before the assassination and then also these after, and that Cliff Carter was a known participant in recording those. And they started doing it after LBJ had Matt kill Henry Marshall. And so after that killing, and I guess perhaps others that they had seen, they're like, we better start watching our own backs. And so they were recording these conversations so they would have. And I got a. I think it's called Dead Man's Drop, but basically a way of if something happens to me, then I can release this and it's going to destroy you and your legacy. And so basically, you're going down with me.
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Glenn Beck
Right.
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Shane Stevens
So it was an insurance policy to. To protect both of them in their lives. And sadly, you know, my granddad, he lived until 2012, but Cliff, he still died in 1972, which. That's a whole nother story, is if you look at the deaths of all the people that were involved in the assassination, they all died right around the same time frame. But we don't need to go down that rabbit trail right now.
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Glenn Beck
So. So let me. Shane, go back to the tape itself. When you showed me the tape and you had it in a little baggie, I about had a heart attack because I think. I think this important history, you know, I don't know if there's a way we can truly ever verify, but we're going to find a way. And I want to make sure that it's preserved. Right. And I want to talk to members of your family. When was the first time you heard about these tapes? Give me the chain of possession, if you will.
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Shane Stevens
I mean, I started hearing about these tapes in, you know, the mid-80s, early-80s, and me, my brother, cousins, we'd kind of talk about it. You know, Saul says that, you know, we're hearing that he knows who killed jfk, and the only reason that he stayed alive and all these other people died was because of these tapes that he has. And so it has been a curiosity thing for us for forever. But these tapes did not surface until around maybe 2015 or 16. And my uncle Darryl used to be my hairstylist in Abilene. Darryl Bright. He called his daughter Star down in Horseshoe Bay and. Or down in Marble Falls and said, hey, Star, I've got these tapes that I've held on to forever, and I've got dementia now, and I'm, I don't know what to do with them. So I always told me that if anything happened to him or if I'd know the right time that I needed to release them. And none of that ever happened. So I don't know what to do with them. So he, Star, couldn't go get them. So my brother Clay went and got them and brought them down to me. And so I'm in short order sent him over to a place that could convert old tapes into digital media because I wanted to know what was on them. I was like, man, this might be some of them.
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Glenn Beck
Right.
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Shane Stevens
And deep down, I was hoping they were the ones with LBJ talking on it, but those haven't surfaced yet. These are just the ones of, you know, Cliff and my granddad.
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Glenn Beck
Yes. But still, still pretty significant. Let me just. Because I'm, I've only got about a minute now. Just. And I want to get deep into this. But you got a, you got a call from the, the hitman, if you will, his grandchildren. And they said what, they heard the same kind of stories from their grandfather.
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Shane Stevens
Yeah, I don't think it's a grandchild. It's a, it's a relative. And there's information. They, they won't let me talk too much on it, but I think in time they'll probably be. They may want to come up with us when we come to your place on that deal. But, yeah, anyways. Yeah, they verified their family secrets and stories align with this.
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Glenn Beck
Unbelievable. Shane, thank you so much. And we're going to be doing more with you to preserve this history and, and also to delve a little deeper into it. It's a fascinating story. You can watch it. Glenn beck.com Glenn beck and also on Blazetv.com Glenn it was last night's Wednesday night special. All right, let me tell you about our sponsor this half hour. It's Lear Capital. You remember that day all those years ago when you set aside that first bit of money specifically earmarked for retirement or, you know, someday. Remember how good it felt even though it wasn't very much. Remember daydreaming sometime how much it was gonna grow into over the years about the things that you would do once you finally hung up the suit and tie for the very last time. Beach trips, easy living, great food, et cetera, et cetera. Remember all that. It was pretty good. And it's a pretty good chance now that none of that's gonna happen. Our country is in so much debt up to our eyeballs, the dollar's value is sinking like a ship ship and singing like a ship that was hit by a larger ship. And your retirement and everything you've done your whole life could go down with it. Please protect what you have with just some gold or silver from Lear Capital. I want you to call them today at 800-957-Gold. 800-957-Gold. Get your free $4200 gold report. And when you call 800-957-Gold, ask how about you can get $15,000 in free gold or silver with a qualifying purchase. 800-957-Gold watch the Wednesday night special on.
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Glenn Beck
Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. We're spending more time on the JFK files and the show that I did last night just because I think it tells you everything you need to know about what's happening today. And you won't understand that until you really watch the show. But it is, I think this is a direct replay of what happened during the Kennedy times and possibly what happened during Nixon's tenure and what's happening right now to Donald Trump. And it is so important that you understand this because you will understand why people are protesting in the streets, why this non grassroots or as Nancy Pelosi would say, astroturf protests are coming up, up so, so quickly. And so oddly with something like usaid, you'll figure that out as you watch the special last night. But at the end of the special, and it's only available on Blaze TV right now, is is when I went out and fired an exact copy of what's his name, Oswald's gun. Same gun. I mean, we don't know of another one like it because it has the exact same modifications that Oswald made to his. And we shot the exact same bullets. The rounds, These were about $40 a piece because they were antique. We, I mean we literally went and got the same bullets from the same batch to see what would happen. And we made a few shots with that and then the gun, the firing pin went bad, so I had to switch guns. But it's the same kind of thing. And I think I had a harder shot than even Oswald did. And you'll see what happened. But where we did this was up The Side By Side ranch. This is in Oklahoma, and it is an unbelievable shooting ranch. I mean, it's just. I mean, I was up there and I said to Scott, the owner, I said, I think, think. I think, I think I'd like to live here. Quite honestly. It is an unbelievable place. If you're into shooting or anything else, you should check this out. But Scott is the owner of it now. Let me just tell you who he is first. So before, before we talk to him. He began shooting at 7 because his dad was a member of the Air Force competitive trap team and he was a great trap shooter. Inductee of the California State, State Trap hall of Fame, blah, blah, blah. He was also a professional coach and instructor. He was the first team captain for Team USA in 1985. Now his son becomes a competitive shooter. This Scott I'm introducing you to here in a second. He was a professional shooter for beretta firearms for 28 years. I've seen him do his exhibition events and they are. I mean, it's almost like Annie Oakley where you throw a quarter up and he shoots it. I mean, he does that. He's in the Sporting Clays hall of fame, won over 14 national championships. He is the current national record holder in the Small Gauge Champion 8 World Champions Championships. Named to all 54American teams in trap. He's also the only competitive clay target athlete in the history of American Sporting Clays. 25 years running to average over 90% consistently. The guy is really good, but what has he done with his life? I don't know. Not much. Here's Scott Robertson. Scott, welcome to the program.
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Jason Buttrell
Thanks, Glenn. Thanks for having me.
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Glenn Beck
First of all, you're too good of a shot to have sat in that tractor, pulling that vehicle that I was shooting at to recreate the Oswald shot. I don't know why you did that. We were asking you want to get some more, a longer chain? Because I don't know. And, and you didn't. But thank you for pulling the, the tractor and pulling that car. Tell me about the shot that. Go ahead.
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Jason Buttrell
Well, Glenn, we got to give your audience a little context, right? I mean, you don't have me on because I'm a good shooter. You mainly have me on because I'm the only one crazy enough to actually get in the tractor. You know, the reason I'm here really is because I do have a gun club about an hour from Blaze or, excuse me, a mile from Blaze Studios. And I'm the guy that you call when you have one of those hair brain Ideas. I mean, if you remember a couple years ago, remember you came with the gun, chainsaw, multi purpose, whatever that zombie.
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Glenn Beck
Yeah, right. Yeah.
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Jason Buttrell
You know, and then, you know, last week my, my gm, who happens to be my best friend, says, hey, Glenn's guys called and they want to recreate the JFK deal. And I went it, crap. You know, Glenn, you're that friend that when people call, you're like, how much time and money.
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Glenn Beck
Right, sorry. I'm sorry, Scott. I'm sorry, Glenn.
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Jason Buttrell
Up to now. So, yeah, you know, Jason calls and we have three days to recreate the deal and come up with an elevated platform. Glenn wants a moving target, you know, has to. But you're left handed and a right handed gun. I mean, I'm like, oh my God. So you know, when Jason gets up there earlier, he says, well, how long is your chain? I said, well, I don't know when we could put some together. So I put the 20 foot, you know, bat wing on the tractor and then a 20 foot chain. He goes, I don't know that that's long enough. So we had another chain and with the angle, I couldn't hardly get it long enough.
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Glenn Beck
But I know, I mean, that last shot, I mean, if I were a bad shot, the last shot, not, I mean, it was, it's not good for you, let's put it that way.
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Jason Buttrell
Well, I just want you to know when you turn to the staff and you say, hey, what do you guys think about this? When they pause, that's pretty much them saying to their boss, boss, this is a really dumb idea. Okay, I just want you to think about that.
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Glenn Beck
But as it, but as it turns.
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Jason Buttrell
Out, yeah, say, Glenn, that sounds great. That's them saying this is really a bad idea. So.
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Glenn Beck
But as it turned out, it wasn't, was it?
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Jason Buttrell
Well, look, I want you to know, I want you to know I am proud of you because, you know, you always say, do your own homework. And yeah, from the last time I saw you shoot a couple years ago at the range, you have been doing your homework. And I, I am sincerely impressed because you know, Peter, this was, you know, those shots that we did, first of all, you did prove that the shot can be made. I mean, I didn't think it could be met before you did it. And so I think, you know, we could, we proved that the shot could be made. I don't know, I'm still not convinced that's how it went down. But that's my own, that's my own.
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Glenn Beck
Right, but, but I do, but I, we did rule this out because I, I have heard my whole life that, oh, it's a very difficult shot. Probably. No, I mean, very few people could make that shot. I made that shot and I think the shot I made was more difficult. We had the wind against us and we also. It wasn't a paved street. The car was on, that truck was bumping, going up and down all the time. That was a difficult shot. And I don't consider myself a decent shooter on with rifles and scopes.
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Jason Buttrell
Well, I will tell you, I am impressed because I'm. First of all, I'm in this tractor and I'm thinking, I'm not sure this is a good idea. Now, you understand, I do lots of sketchy stuff. You know, I shoot one handed off a bike and do all kinds of crazy stuff. Pogo stick you and.
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Glenn Beck
Right.
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Jason Buttrell
You know, so if I'm a little nervous as pretty. That's pretty sketchy. And so you're up on this tower with six or eight people. You know, I have this truck that has this big lift and it's wobbly. So you're that and you know, then the radio and Jason's like, oh, the range is hot. And I'm looking at what seems to be down a barrel of a, you know, high powered rifle. With you up there with the right. Boy, this is okay. I'm really hoping again, Glenn's been practicing, but anyway, I'm pulling this truck at 11 miles an hour. And it's in one of my fields, so it's bouncing up and down. Those balloons had to be bouncing probably 10 to 12 inches, you know, high. Look. And I'm thinking, we are gonna have to do this 10 times today.
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Shane Stevens
Right?
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Jason Buttrell
This is gonna take 10 takes. This is. And then I look back and I see the first balloon explode. And I'm like, well, good for you, Glenn. You got one. Okay. You know, we can always go to B roll. And then you hit the next balloon. And then the truck is bouncing like crazy because there's a lag between the second shot and the third shot.
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Glenn Beck
Yeah.
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Jason Buttrell
And I'm thinking, wow. And then I see the third, you know, balloon explode. And I'm like, I am not believing this. I mean, I'm impressed. It's not an easy shot, but even more the way that we had to do it with the moving vehicle and up.
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Glenn Beck
I think we both can say, if I could do that, Oswald. The only thing he had that I didn't have was the pressure of killing the President. All the nerves. But I'm also Left handed, right handed gun. You know, we had other things going on that I think balance things out. So I really believe he could have made the shot. Now tell what we found at the end that bothered you that you brought up.
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Jason Buttrell
Well, what was interesting is, is the grouping in the shield. So the bullet went back, it went, went through the balloon which represented the target and then went through the windshield, excuse me, the back glass. And then all three bullets lodged in a very small group in the front windshield. And so what first thing I thought was interesting is how offset it was. It wasn't on the right side of the car, it was on the left side of the car. Right. So that was, that was just interesting with the angle because we pretty much had the exact angles that, that it would have been in downtown Dallas that day. The other thing that I found interesting was that even though the truck was moving and there was a distance, we had, we had the balloons lined up in such a way to represent stagnant in the car. And what was interesting was that all of the bullets landed in the front windshield in a small enough group that really answered, asked more questions than we answered.
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Shane Stevens
Right.
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Glenn Beck
Like it did.
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Jason Buttrell
Why was the guy in the, in the, why was the driver not hit? Why was the passenger not hit more than one time? Right. So a lot of these things were weird.
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Glenn Beck
And so it really, the way it came out with us, the, the driver should have been killed. The driver absolutely should have been at least hit, but could have been killed. It would have at least the way we did it, it was too high up because we weren't six stories up, we were about two. And so it would have gone into his back instead of where we had, it would have been gone right through his head. But I went through the Warren Commission and it said that, you know, the first bullet landed in the street someplace. It was such a bad shot, it didn't even enter the car, just landed in the street and the kid was hit by a piece of the curb that broke off and hit him. And the, the, the headshot, they say that the headshot, the bullet completely disintegrated and broke up. So they've never found any pieces of that bullet. Is that even possible?
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Jason Buttrell
No. Well, no. One of these days you should research the Bill Cooper video. That's the one that makes more logical sense to me. But, you know, that's a whole nother conspiracy. But if you, if you, if you watch that video, it does make more sense that he was actually shot with a CIA air pistol. And you know, there was Also poisoning. That's why they had to change the brain out in Dallas. So, you know that I kind of come up more in that deal. But the, but the real question when you start looking at the ballistics of it is when you shot that shot, the first shot being a miss, I don't really buy that because how does a guy make two shots in a head at twice the distance of the first shot? And the first shot is not thumb because.
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Glenn Beck
Yep.
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Jason Buttrell
That first shot, you have to admit that was probably the easiest shot, right?
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Glenn Beck
Oh, it was easy. Yeah. I was more concerned about the other one. It was at a steeper angle. I mean, it was difficult 100%.
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Jason Buttrell
And so if, if Oswald is good enough to hit the President one in the neck and one in the head, you're telling me that he's going to completely miss the car. When in your scope all you would see is car. It doesn't make any sense.
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Glenn Beck
No.
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Jason Buttrell
Right. So it's kind of hard to believe that the first shot was a mess. I don't, I, you know, and then when we start looking at the angles and the ballistics of what we did, I, I have to ask more questions because it just doesn't make any sense. It, you don't have a miss and then you have two good shots like that and then the angle of it, you know, how is the passenger hit, not the driver. You know, it's just, it's just a lot of questions there.
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Glenn Beck
So. Scott, I, I've only got less than a minute here. I just want to say, you know, and you might say, I. I'm not sure that's a really good idea, but I'd like to recreate the Butler shooting because that just seems like the easiest shot of all time. Compared to, compared to Oswald, that seems simple. Really simple.
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Jason Buttrell
Not only simple, is it is the Butler shooting. I would. Yes, I would like to do that with you because I think we're going to find in Butler that we could take anybody off the street and they would make that shot 99 times out of.
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Glenn Beck
Yep. Okay, Scott, thank you so much. I appreciate it. He is the owner of Elm Fork Shooting Sports and also side by side ranch founder and co owner. And I just can't thank you enough, Scott. We'll. We'll talk to you again. All right, Back in just a second. Let me tell you about our sponsor this half hour. It's rough greens. A lot of dogs eat like their furry little garbage disposals on legs. They wolf down just about anything, even the kitchen sink. If you give them Enough time. And then you have dogs like my dog, dog Uno, who used to make me. And honestly, we, we would have to take shifts on there. Was this your week to feed Uno and you're like, no. Because he would make you stand absolutely still in front of his bowl before he would, he'd like put his nose down. Then he'd look at you. Then he'd look at the bowl like, are you going anywhere? And then he would start to eat. He'd take one bite and if you moved, he would just drop the food right back in the bowl and like, where are we going? It was so frustrating. But we found a way to not do that anymore. We don't stand by his bowl anymore. It's a miracle. Just this. It's Rough Greens developed by naturopathic doctor Dennis Black. It's a supplement that you sprinkle, sprinkle on top of whatever food you're feeding your dog. All the nutrients, everything that your dog needs. It's rough greens. Ruffgreens.com get it now. Free Jump start trial bag. It's free. You just pay for shipping. Use the promo code beck@ruffgreens.com promo code beck rough greens.com can't believe he used to be a top 40 disc jockey. But anyway, we still love him. Glenn Beck will be right back. I don't know if you heard about NPR and what's going on with NPR and PBS and everything else, but you know who's on the board of the Signal Foundation? It's weird. The former CEO of the Wikimedia Foundation. You might remember Catherine Marr. Yeah, she also is the now CEO of npr. Remember her name? She keeps. It's weird. She's also on the board of the Signal Foundation. Huh. How many times do we play musical chairs with the same people? This is Glenn Beck. Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile. I don't know if you knew this, but anyone can get the Same premium wireless for 15amonth Plan that I've been enjoying.
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Stu Burguiere
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Glenn Beck
Shadows hide Feel the dark on every side Stand your ground when times get dark Gotta face the Dog and embrace the fire. The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program. Hello America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We're glad you're here. We're going to talk little bit about the real truth behind Snow White and the actress and the, the producer. His son has just had it up to here and his dad was being, you know, just pounded and the poor little Snow White was being made into the princess that she is not. And he just couldn't take it anymore. And so he unloaded on social media and I, I think it's worth worth reading because I think you'll agree with his conclusion. Of course the left doesn't. The left loves it. Also. We're gonna, we're gonna go through some of the things that just happened yesterday in a hearing with, with NPR and PBS and all of these left wing organizations that are now, now looking at losing their funding and, and like what, what? We're an important institution. Are you, are you really seriously? You know, I think we're an important institution. I'm not begging for government money. If you're so fricking important, then why don't you make the money on your own? If you're so important, then the American people will support by their views, their listens and by their wallet. Not. You're not important if you're taking my money and then telling me you're important. I mean, no, no. If you're so important, the American people and the capitalist system will support you. Why don't you get off the teat of all of the taxpayers and do your own damn work. What do you say? Sorry, not in a good mood today. Back in just 60 seconds with more. First let me tell you about our sponsor this half hour. It's American Financing. You've been here before. Sitting at the dining room table, deep into the evening, staring down at you. Know that too bright of a laptop screen as all the figures on your monthly finance spreadsheet go in and out of focus before your tired eyes. You look up and down the hallway where your kids bedroom are. They're fast asleep. Easy for them. They don't have the weight on the shoulders that, that you have. How are you going to make it work this month and next month? And why does it always have to be like this? Why can't you just have some peace of mind? I know you've been here before. I have been too. Now, for over two decades, American financing has been helping people just like you get out of debt and begin saving real money. Sometimes as much as A thousand dollars a month. Their salary based mortgage consultants are there to help you, not to help the bank. They don't charge any upfront or hidden fees. It's what you see with them is what you get. Please call American Financing at 800-906-2440. Don't spend another day at that table, 800-906-2440 or go to American Financing.net nmls182334nmlsconsumeraccess.org.
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Glenn Beck
You know I'm going to get into the NPR thing here in just a second but the problem with our society can be found with Snow White and what's going on with Snow White. We have too many people that don't know what it's like to actually work. They don't know what merit is because they get paid whether they succeed or not. You know they were talking about Snap and yesterday we shared the information about Snap and sugary cereals and everything else that shouldn't be a part of Snap. Well they, they, they should be able to buy what they want. Well, no, not on our dime. How's that? How's that? Um, and this is, this really comes from Benjamin Franklin. He believes the best way to get people out of, of the circle of poverty is to make them uncomfortable in their poverty. Meaning you know, you don't get what you want. You know, you get what you need. And there's a difference between needs and wants. And if we give people what they need, people want more than that. Well, they'll learn that they have to change their behavior. Maybe their behavior is self destructive. Maybe their behavior is just pure laziness. Maybe it's a lack of education. But we can find those solutions together. If you're not getting what you want, you're only getting what you need. You know, it was Edward Bernays that said, you know, the problem with America is we've got a, a country of needs. We need to turn this around to a country of wants. He by the way, was the father of American propaganda. He's the guy whose books all taught Goebbels how to make Germany into an all new place. He is the author of Modern Advertising. We got to just change this from a nation of needs to a nation of wants. No, we need to do the exact opposite now. We need to make our nation a nation of needs again. And that one that even understands needs. So the producer of Snow White, Mark Platt, the son, I'm sorry, the son of the producer, Mark Platt, has just gone on X and defended, defended his family's name and the father. So one commenter wrote in his Instagram and tried to flip the switch here and flip the narrative. Apparently his dad had to fly to New York City to reprimand what's her face, the woman who played Snow White, what's her Face, Rachel Ziegler, and had to reprimand because they, when they went out on tour for publicity, she starts, you know, starts in with all of her political nonsense. And that wasn't helping Disney, it wasn't helping the movie. You know, hey, Snow White. Yeah. Let me tell you about Palestine and, and Israel and how bad Israel is and how bad Trump is. Okay? That's not gonna help sell the movie. You've just divided the country in half. So you've lost half of the revenue we could have had because you off half the country. Now this is what exactly what would be said to me. You know, I go in and I say, hey, I wanna work for NBC. Well, first of all, it would never happen cuz A, I wouldn't wanna work for NBC. But two, because they would never hire me. But if it was a serious consideration, you know why they wouldn't hire me? If it was all, if everyone was just being honest, they wouldn't hire me. The same reason why they wouldn't hire anybody from the view or Rosie O'Donnell. Because I'm a polarizing figure, because I speak about politics. And so I lose half the audience in. When you are in mass media, when you're making movies, etc. You don't want to lose half the audience. You want to get everybody into a seat. You're there to not only make a beautiful artistic film, you're also there to put butts in the seats to make money for the company or for yourself. So he has to go across the country and say, hey, can you stop? Stop. Can you please stop talking about your pro Palestinian views and anti Trump con comments? And you know how, how this film was just creepy in the 1930s. Can you stop? This is a beloved film. So somebody goes on Twitter and says to Jonah Platt, son of the producer who had to do that your dad flew to New York City to reprimand a young actress. Any words on this? Because that's creepy as hell and uncalled for. People have the right to free speech. Shame on your father. Oh my gosh, I'm not the Son of the producer. And I want to respond to that. But the son of the producer did respond. Here's what he said. You really want to do this? Yeah. My dad, the producer of an enormous piece of Disney IP with hundreds of millions of dollars on the line, had to leave his family to fly across the country to reprimand a 20 year old employee for dragging her personal politics into the middle of promotion for a movie which she signed a multi million dollar contract for to get paid and do publicity for. This is what you call adult responsibility and accountability. And her actions clearly hurt the film's box office. Free speech does not mean you're allowed to say whatever you want in your private employment without repercussions. Tens of thousands of people worked on that film and she hijacked the conversation for her own immature desires at the risk of all of the colleagues and crew and the blue collar workers who depend on that movie to be successful. Narcissism is not something to be coddled or encouraged. I don't think I could have said it better. I would have said it meaner perhaps. I don't think I could have said that better. This is, this is how narcissistic now, how narcissistic our society has become. It's all about me. It has nothing to do with the blue collar workers that are depending on that movie to be successful. Has nothing to do with the thousands of people, the tens of thousands of people that worked on that movie. No, it's all about her and what she believes and what she wants. You know, when I first went into Fox, I turned Fox down probably three or four times. Stu, how many times did they offer that job? And I kept saying no.
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Stu Burguiere
Yeah, it was, it was several, several.
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Glenn Beck
And Roger Ailes finally called me into the Murdoch lunchroom and I went over to meet with him and he sat there with a bunch of executives and he said, what is it about our number one status and the money that I'm offering you that is much more than I think you're making now. What is it that just doesn't interest you? And I said, roger, I know your business. I know it, it. You don't know anything about my business. And until you know and care about my business, I can't do business with you because I have two masters. I would be serving my business, my career and yours. And I know your business. So I know the lines that I cannot cross. This is not my company. So if you say, Glenn, you're not to do that. I need to evaluate before I go into Business with you. Am I willing to play by your rules because I can't get onto your platform and then have you say Glenn, and then break those that would harm your company? Because I am being paid as an employee by you. Now, it doesn't mean we're going to agree on everything, but I'm not going to do harm to your company. And I need you to tell me you're not going to do harm to my company. So that was the beginning of the conversation of going into business with Fox. And I have pride that any company I've ever done business with, that I was a good partner. They weren't necessarily good partners of mine. Most of them have been great partners. But I've tried to do the right thing in looking at their company because they've hired me. Okay, why is that any different than these actresses that just believe they have free speech? You don't have free speech without consequence. You can say whatever you want. But she was on the Disney dime. She's being flown to New York City to have interviews that were set up up by Disney about Snow White. It was. She was there being paid to promote the Disney movie. Not her propaganda, not her belief. I wouldn't have the right to sit there. I would have said if they would have asked me something and they would have, they would have tried to goat me into something, I would say, it's not the time or place. I'm here to talk about Snow White. I'm not here to talk about Donald Trump. I'm not here to talk about Israel or Hamas. That's what I would have done. And if you don't believe me, well, then you haven't listened to me long enough. I know what my responsibility is. And if I'm going to make that deal and get into business with somebody, I know the difference of when I'm on their dime and when I'm not on their dime. Now, I want to leave that and hold my own press conference. I think it's unfair to do. Because you are still promoting that movie. So if you do it at the same time you're in promotion, you are going to sabotage your partner Disney, and that's not right. But if I felt strongly about it, I would get off of the tour after I finished the tour, and I would say something then in my own space, in my own time. And I would make it clear, this has nothing to do with Disney. It has nothing to do with the movie. The movie is completely separate. Now, if somebody wants to make that about the movie, that's Fine. That's their thing. But I'm not on the company dime. That's how freedom of speech works. You have freedom of speech, but if you're being. If you're on somebody else's dime, you have the responsibility to respect their wishes and respect what they're asking you to do, what you do in your own home. Fine. However, Disney would have the right and they wouldn't have. Because they agree with her on everything. Oh, men are just disgusting. Especially white men. They got there. They're all there with you, so they're not gonna let you go. They let Roseanne go, sure, but not her. Even though this is a massive flop, they didn't let her go. They just had the producer fly out and say, can you shut the piehole for a minute? You're killing us. You're killing the movie. You're killing everybody who worked on this movie. You're killing Disney. What are you doing? If this woman gets another acting job in a movie, it'll tell you everything you need to know about Hollywood. There's no way this woman should be hired for anything ever again. One of the bigger box office bombs. The reason why it was a bomb is because she was just completely irresponsible. Now, how do we teach our children this responsibility? We teach our children this responsibility by not allowing them to become narcissistic. You know what, sweetheart? Life isn't fair. And it's not always about you. Once we start looking and gazing at our own image on social media all the time and we begin to believe that we are the most important thing ever, the whole thing goes to the crapper. We have to put narcissism back into the ugly place that it has always been and understand that we are a narcissistic society. And that needs to change. All right, back in just a second. 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Stu Burguiere
Hey, Glenn, the comment by the son of the producer, I thought that was a fascinating dynamic in that, first of all, his articulation of what the actual situation was, was 100% accurate, right? Like, that is 100% the way to look at this, right? It's about being selfish, honestly, more than it is about the content of whatever her protest was, which, by the way, seemingly being on the side of Hamas. But the other part of this is I thought it was interesting as a father, son dynamic and that, like, in some ways, as a dad, you're in the middle of this Disney contract. You've already had to deal with all sorts of politics stuff. You'd probably be like, look, son, I love you, but please don't jump in the middle of this. Don't make this any worse. I don't want this to get inflamed. I don't want to get into the middle of this, this and the other side. You could not be more proud of your son. Right?
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Glenn Beck
I know, I know.
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Stu Burguiere
For just like laying it out like that and saying the truth and not being afraid, it would be an interesting dynamic. As a dad, how would you handle that?
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Glenn Beck
I'd be proud of my son. I, I, although, I mean, I've said this to my, my wife in particular, but also my kids, they're like, dad, somebody said something in school or somebody said something and I'm, and you know, I got, I, no, no, don't, don't, don't, don't.
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Stu Burguiere
Right?
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Glenn Beck
Just move on. Really, just move on. It's not worth. This is about me and what I believe, not about you, so just leave it. But every member of my family has gotten to a point to where they're like, I'm going to rip your throat out. You say another thing about my dad, I'm going to rip your throat out. And I'm going to, I'm going to rip it out with logic and reason and Facts. And you're right. Be so proud. So proud. But also as a dad, I'd be like, you're just gonna get. That's not gonna, that'll leave a mark. They're not gonna leave you alone because what's happening? Torching him. They're torching him now and they're saying, there was one crazy response, saying, oh, oh, daddy had to leave his family. He's 67 years old and he's a billionaire with adult children. Oh, Mama platt holding her 38 year old son Jonah and 31 year old Ben in her arms. You're gonna see her again, aren't you? While I'm here raising our babies. Okay. I mean, just because you're 67 years old doesn't mean you still don't hang out with your family. You still don't do things with your family. You don't know this family's dynamics at all. And you know, yeah, I'd be pissed if, if, if one of my, if one of my kids had to go across the country and even if they weren't going to spend the weekend with me, had to go across the country to shut some snot nosed 20 year old. I know everything actress that's destroying the lives of everybody that's worked on this film. Destroying the success that they might have. Yeah, I'd be pissed. I'd be pissed. Why are you going across the country? This is ridiculous. She shouldn't have said those things. She should know better than that. She's a narcissist. Let her have it. Dad, this is Glenn Beck. There was a time and I know you're probably not going to believe me when I tell you that, you know, I didn't have to think twice before bending down, you know, and tying my shoes. Okay. I mean, there's tons of fat jokes and everything else in there. I get it. But you know, I've, I've thrown my back out, you know, picking up a pencil. I have. I had this massive pain in my arms and my hands. I have no idea what it was, but it was just crippling for me and spent about six years trying to track it down and find something that would break its back. The only thing, the only thing that worked for me was relief factor. That's how I found my answer. It worked in my life and the lives of countless others who listen to the program. I hear from both sides. I hear from people who say, I tried it, it didn't work. Did you try it for 30 days? You take it as directed? No. What it just, just take it as directed for 30 days, then evaluate. But it doesn't work for everybody. I mean, I like, that's one of the things I like about relief factors. They're like, it works for about 70% of the people, but take it as directed. So try the three week quick start. You'll know in three weeks. 1995 three week quick start. It's relieffactor.com relieffactor.com 1, 800 for relief.
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Glenn Beck
There'S a few things that we need to cover here. President Trump says he's going to take a look at the fatal January 6 shooting of Ashley Babbitt. Maybe some justice would come from that. He also announced new tariffs on auto imports now up to 25%. This is if these things go into, into effect the beginning of April, that is quite frightening for anybody who sells any imported cars in America. And if you're looking for a, an imported car, buy one now. If you're looking for a used car, buy one now because what's going to happen is the new cars are going to go through the roof and the everybody will start to buy a used car which will go through the roof because no one will want to buy a new car. So now's the time to buy if you're thinking about buying one. I'm just saying. Jim Jordan is laying out the sweeping agenda for judicial reform, which I don't think could happen to a better group of people. We'll talk about that here in a second. But I also want to talk about the NPR CEO that was, was called up to the house to, to testify on a few things yesterday. Stu, you want to take us through this?
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Stu Burguiere
Yeah, I'd like to talk about it as well because it was an interesting hearing. First of all, good fundamental reason the hearing was happening was, hey, maybe we shouldn't be paying a bunch of money for left wing propaganda at NPR and pbs. And I think that's a, I think there's absolutely no reason for that to be occurring. I don't know what country we are. I understand. And the UK has the BBC. They've got Pravda going on. I don't know why we need one of those. So I'm totally with this and I don't think it should happen. However, even if it was doing an actual good job, I would think it was a bad idea. They are not however, doing a good job. And they are led by. NPR is led by someone named Katherine Marr. She is a. Well, she's I would say a leftist. She has some really extreme views. We've covered some of them before but never really had her answer for them. Part of what happened here is that process. And one of the big complaints about NPR in particular was they were probably. You tell me if I'm wrong on this, Glenn. The worst offender when it came to the Hunter Biden laptop scandal.
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Glenn Beck
Oh yeah, they said on day one we will not cover conspiracy theories. Yeah, that is not worth the time for us to cover for the American people.
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Stu Burguiere
Really bad. They didn't give it. They just absolutely dismissed it with no evidence. Cuz obviously the story was true. They absolutely dismissed the story right before the election, assuming it was some sort.
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Glenn Beck
Of right wing conspiracy almost on day one.
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Stu Burguiere
Yeah, it did not turn out to be a right wing conspiracy. It did turn out to be a conspiracy between Hunter Biden and a bunch of hookers, but that's a different situation. So this is Kathryn Marr trying to answer about for some of the poor showings of journalism that they've produced over the past couple of years.
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Shane Stevens
Listen, can we expect that you will bring the same lack of reverence for truth to your management of npr?
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Stu Burguiere
Thank you, Congressman. First of all, I do want to say that NPR acknowledges that we were mistaken in failing to cover the Hunter Biden laptop story more aggressively and sooner. Our current editorial leadership, we recognize that we were reporting at the time, but we acknowledge that the new CIA evidence is worthy of coverage and have covered it.
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Shane Stevens
What have you done to clean up the bias before you? I wasn't there for that. What are you doing to clean up and make sure that we have.
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Stu Burguiere
Absolutely. Thank you, Congressman. As I mentioned, I came in May. Mr. Berliner published his story two weeks into my tenure regarding stories that had happened prior. I wish that I had had the opportunity to speak with Mr. Berliner. I would have loved to have had him engage and come back to us with some suggestions as to could do editorially in order to address what he perceived as bias.
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Glenn Beck
Hmm. So may I just, I want to point out who she is here for just a second. Chris Ruffo has pointed out what's well, her, let's shall we say, interesting work history. Before NPR, she was employed by the U.S. state Department and the National Democratic alliance or Democratic Institute. The NDI is one of the main branches of the National Endowment for Democracy. And when was she there? During the Arab Spring. What were they doing promoting the Arab Spring. Remember, it was the Ned and the US Government strategy during the Arab Spring. They were training youth movements on how to influence public opinion through mass media and ultimately organize in the streets and then topple the regime. Okay. Chris Rufo has said that. Rephrase it. He all but called her a CIA agent. Okay. Also she was with Wikimedia, which is Wikipedia. And when she got there, you know, they changed, they, they changed a little bit and, and started controlling information. And then she's now the head of, of, of npr and we're supposed to be comfortable with this. She's part of this whole deep state revolutionary thing. That is exactly what we told you is I think what the JFK files are showing us. They're showing us the pattern. This is what happened in the 60s, this is what's happening right now. It's the same story. And she's right at the head of it. Yeah.
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Stu Burguiere
And if you, sometimes it's difficult, Glenn, when you look at someone's resume to be able to determine who the person is. Right. Like you might work at an organization that could disagree with you. You might be like, there's a lot of people who worked at X and Twitter that we now know were really upset with what Twitter was doing at that time. We consider them kind of a left wing social media network. And at the time there were people inside who were really upset about that. We learn about those things later. This particular case though, not a good example of that at all.
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Glenn Beck
Let me just point out too, currently she is currently on the board of Signal.
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Stu Burguiere
Okay. Yeah, that's a newsworthy addition to the point out there.
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Glenn Beck
Okay.
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Stu Burguiere
And again, you could even say that someone could be someone who's a left leaning person. Right. Who is controlled of npr. They've been left wing forever. But you could be a left leaning news person and okay, that could be something that could work. Obviously everyone has a revolutionary. Not everyone has some opinion on news stories. This particular person, however, Catherine Marr has a fascinating history. And what she has done is not just work in these places and not just have influence in these stories that keep coming up over and over again, but explicitly state her crazy positions over and over and over and over again on Twitter, Twitter on X. So she had to know this stuff was coming. But she was asked by Brandon Gill, he's a congressman from Texas, about some of her previous tweets and it is just absolute gold. Do you believe that America is addicted to white supremacy? I believe that. I tweeted that and as I said Earlier, I believe much of my thinking has evolved over the last half decade. It has evolved. Why did you tweet that? I don't recall the exact context, sir. So I wouldn't be able to say, okay. Do you believe that America believes in black plunder and white democracy? I don't believe that, sir. You tweeted that in reference to a book you were reading at the time, apparently, the Case for Reparations. I don't think I've ever read that book, sir. You tweeted about it. You said you took a day off to fully read the Case for Reparations. You put that on Twitter in January of 2020. Apologies. I don't recall that.
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Glenn Beck
I did. Okay, no.
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Stu Burguiere
No doubt that your.
- [116:17]
Glenn Beck
Your tweet there is correct, but I don't recall that. Okay, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
- [116:21]
Stu Burguiere
So good.
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Glenn Beck
Okay, so the question there is, is she it? Was she just lying about, you know, reading that? And if she was lying about reading that, then was she just doing it because she's part of a circle. It's like, you gotta read this book, and it's all this and blah, blah, blah. And so she just didn't do her own homework. She made up that she was taking the full day off to really understand this case in the book. She was just being a shill to promote this point of view.
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Stu Burguiere
And that's the best case scenario. Right? Like the fact that she's just lying and opposer. Right. Is just the best case scenario. The worst case scenario would be she actually believes the United States is nothing but black plunder. And that's, I think, actually the truth. But fascinating. Number one, she should absolutely be prepared for this. She should know that tweet is coming. How do you go into a congressional hearing and not know that they're gonna bring up that tweet? That's.
- [117:18]
Glenn Beck
Well, wait, wait, wait. Let's be fair to her. Almost everything she said has been crazy, batcrap nuts. So, I mean, can I narrow it down to which ones he's gonna bring up?
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Stu Burguiere
Yeah. And there is an element of this, right? Like, if I went back, Glenn, and we did a fake congressional hearing where I was the congressman and you were giving testimony, and I said, hey, Glenn, do you remember tweeting this? I'm sure I could find a tweet that you don't remember tweeting. I'm sure I could find even a topic, you know, maybe even a show like, hey, Glenn, you said you were watching this show. Do you remember that? And you would go, oh, gosh, I don't think so. And I'd be like, actually, you tweeted it in 2018. Like, 100% could happen, right?
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Glenn Beck
Yes, yes.
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Stu Burguiere
However, what you wouldn't find in there is, you know, something that completely disagreed with your entire philosophy of life. Right. Like, if you went back and said, stu, I'm looking back at your tweets. Why did you tweet in 2019 that you love the Dallas Cowboys? That wouldn't happen.
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Glenn Beck
Right.
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Stu Burguiere
I would certainly know that I tweeted something like that because it's actually more evil than claiming the entire country is a bunch of white supremacists. So.
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Glenn Beck
And I agree with you. And let me add one more thing on the. On the statement that my views have evolved. The wrong question was asked by the senator. Really? How? Why? What. What changed your mind? Because you've been tweeting this forever, and you're still against Trump and everything that he's doing. I haven't seen any change of anything. What's changed your mind? That make you now say that America is not just based on white supremacy?
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Stu Burguiere
It's the most interesting part of the story. The transition story is the story. Right. Like, walk me through the moment you realize, good God, why was I saying all those terrible things?
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Glenn Beck
Correct. That's the question that these guys have to ask. Wow, you know what? We all change. Tell me about that moment when you realized you were on the wrong track.
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Stu Burguiere
And by the way, I think Brandon Gill did a very good job in this hearing, but it is a fundamental problem of these hearings that most of these guys. And I'm not saying him, but most of these guys are up there to just say their thing and not actually listen to the answer.
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Glenn Beck
No, he's not.
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Stu Burguiere
He is listening, and he does want to know, but time is limited and everything else. I would love to hear the answer to that question, because whoever the next congressman up should have followed up with about. But can we explain the rest of it?
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Glenn Beck
There's more. Yeah.
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Stu Burguiere
It's worth it.
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Glenn Beck
Yeah, go ahead.
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Stu Burguiere
No doubt that your tweet there is.
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Glenn Beck
Correct, but I don't recall that.
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Stu Burguiere
Okay. Do you believe that white people inherently feel superior to other races? I do not.
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Glenn Beck
You don't?
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Stu Burguiere
You tweeted something to that effect. You said, I grew up feeling superior.
- [120:03]
Glenn Beck
Ha.
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Stu Burguiere
How white of me. Why did you tweet that? I think I was probably reflecting on.
- [120:09]
Glenn Beck
What it was to be.
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Stu Burguiere
To grow up in an environment where I had lots of advantages. It sounds like you're saying that white people feel superior. I don't believe that anybody feels that way, sir. I was just reflecting on my own experiences. Do you think that white people should pay reparations? I have never said that, sir. Yes, you did. You said it in January of 2020. You tweeted, yes, The North. Yes.
- [120:31]
Glenn Beck
All of us.
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Stu Burguiere
Yes. America.
- [120:33]
Glenn Beck
Yes.
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Stu Burguiere
Our original collective sin and unpaid debt.
- [120:36]
Glenn Beck
Yes.
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Stu Burguiere
Reparations. Yes. On this day. I don't believe that was a reference to fiscal reparations, sir. What kind of reparations was it a reference to? I think it was just a reference to the idea that we all owe much to the people who came before us. That's a bizarre way to frame what you tweeted. Okay. I mean, that's obviously just nonsensical thing. So funny justification for what she actually said.
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Glenn Beck
And that's. And that's why she should not be at npr, and NPR should not be there. If you're running. If that company is being run by this. This woman. And people in NPR aren't saying, okay, come on. Uh, the whole thing needs to be abolished. They're obviously not telling the truth. I don't have a problem with you. If you're a lefty and you're just telling the truth and you're like, no, I do believe that. I have more respect for you for saying that than I do her and making up all kinds of stuff because the temperature of the room has changed. Have the balls to say what you believe. Have the balls to stand up for what you actually believe and want to do. That's not that. That is a revolutionary. That is in. That is a wolf in sheep's clothing. And we keep seeing the wolf, but it's because the sheep skin just keeps slipping a little bit. And you're like, wow, gee, Grandma, you have mighty big teeth. Yeah, NPR should be abolished. And you should start with just firing her back in just a second. When's the last time you truly knew where your food came from? The label on the beef that you're buying at the meat aisle in the grocery store, does it say product of the usa? Is it a product of the usa? Because most likely it's not. It probably came out of some giant meat packing plant, maybe even overseas. Or the meat came from overseas, and then it went to one of our giant meat packing plants, you know, so it could be. Could be soaked in chemicals. You want to know that your meat is good, is fresh. You want to know what's in it and that it was raised on a local farm or ranch. And, you know, who knows this good ranchers, because they partner with farmers and ranchers all over the US to bring the best, safest and most delicious meats to your family's table at a price you can afford. Imagine biting into a delicious steak and knowing that you're supporting a small farmer or rancher and that the steak is free from antibiotics and hormones or weird additives. At the same time, I want you to go to goodranchers.com use the promo code BECK and claim your $25 off of the free meat at goodranchers.com promo code BECK good ranchers.com American meat delivered. You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences. There's rough terrain ahead. Saddle up, my friends and stay tuned. Glenn Beck'll be right back. Every idea starts with a problem. Warby Parker's was simple. Glasses are too expensive. So they set out to change that. By designing glasses in house and selling directly to customers, they're able to offer prescription eyewear that's expertly crafted and unexpectedly affordable. Warby Parker glasses are made from premium materials like impact resistant polycarbonate and custom acid. And they start at just $95, including prescription lenses. Get glasses made from the good stuff. Stop by a Warby Parker store near you. And to be clear, free speech is not about whatever it is that y'all want somebody to say. And the idea that you want to shut down everybody that is not Fox News is we need to stop playing because that's what y'all are doing in here. You don't want to hear the opinions of anybody else. And the Constitution says Congress shall make no law respecting or establishing of religion or prohibiting the freedom.
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Stu Burguiere
She's never seen these words before in her life.
- [124:49]
Glenn Beck
Or abridging. The gentlewoman's time has expired. Press.
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Stu Burguiere
I love how she reads a word. She reads a statement with a swear in it. That's. That is fantastic. I'll say this. We're on the edge of a situation that's going to be occurring soon that the Democrats are going to try to silence Jasmine Crockett because she's so dumb. And we cannot let that happen. We must have more Jasmine Crockett in our lives. Don't silence her. Don't shut her up. Let her keep talking. She's priceless. And by priceless, I mean worth zero. But still, she is without price. Priceless. We love Jasmine Crockett.
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Glenn Beck
This is Glenn. Becky.