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Stu Burguiere
Exactly.
Pat Gray
Yeah, yeah, what he said.
Stu Burguiere
I'm just going to say the same thing. It's weird that that was on both our minds at the same time. All right, so yesterday the big beautiful bill happened in the Senate and here's what happened with J.D. vance in there.
Pat Gray
On this vote, the yays are 50.
Stu Burguiere
The nays are 50.
Pat Gray
The Senate being evenly divided, the Vice President votes in the affirmative. The bill as amended, is passed.
Stu Burguiere
Tada. Wow.
Pat Gray
The excitement is palpable.
Stu Burguiere
And the crowd goes wild.
Pat Gray
There's just nothing like a good C span to get you fired up for the fourth of July.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah. You know, and you're welcome. You're welcome. So we haven't talked much about the big beautiful bill together.
Pat Gray
That's true.
Stu Burguiere
What are your thoughts on this passage of the big beautiful bill in the way they said it just passed it.
Pat Gray
Right. Because it's not, it's not the same bill. And there's still a lot of work to do on the big beautiful bill. There is a sort of fakey deadline of July 4, which is not actually a deadline. I keep talking to people, they gotta get this done. July 4th is right around the corner. It doesn't matter actually, it's really, at all.
Stu Burguiere
It's an artificial construct.
Pat Gray
It is, it is a very good usage of that term. Basically, Donald Trump said he wanted it done by a holiday and everyone was like, well, Donald Trump said we need to get it done by the holiday, so we better get it done by the holiday. That's essentially all it is. Right. There's no legislative reason it needs to be done by July 4th. But I mean, I think there is a legitimate worry that if they don't get it done by July 4th, it could. You know how Congress is. Right. Like they start getting focused on other things, they come up with new complaints they didn't know about. They might, I mean this is the worst case scenario. They might read the bill.
Stu Burguiere
No.
Pat Gray
And then figure out what's in it.
Stu Burguiere
No, that would be crazy.
Pat Gray
I mean, I doubt it.
Stu Burguiere
That would be crazy.
Pat Gray
Someone in their office might read a chatgpt, might get all the text in it to tell them what they should oppose in it. So that happens. I think, like it's actually a somewhat complicated picture, I think. And that does tend to happen when you have thousand page bills.
Stu Burguiere
There is a lot that they did have the, they did have it read. Was it Monday? They did the 16 hour thing. Oh my gosh. I only stayed around for 14 of the hours though, so I didn't hear that.
Pat Gray
What? Did she have something going on? Is everything okay?
Stu Burguiere
I had to go to the bathroom. Yeah. I sat there listening and watching intently for 14 hours and then I'm like, nah, I gotta go to the bathroom.
Pat Gray
See, I had a television that only carries C span installed in my bathroom.
Stu Burguiere
Oh.
Pat Gray
So now even if when I have to go to the bathroom, I don't miss any bill readings.
Stu Burguiere
Oh, that's awesome.
Pat Gray
Yeah, that's just.
Stu Burguiere
That's a great idea.
Pat Gray
We had it installed when we bought the home. It was the first thing we said. We will buy this home.
Stu Burguiere
However, there is C SPAN television in the bathroom.
Pat Gray
That was our big negotiation. So we got that.
Stu Burguiere
And you got it.
Pat Gray
Nice. There is a lot of good in the bill. Right. The tax cuts being made permanently and that has to happen is big. There's other things. You get rid of some of the green subsidies. You know, there are.
Stu Burguiere
You got some border.
Pat Gray
Border stuff is important stuff. Yep. That's a big one. I have this. I have an entire. I have an entire list of everything in the bill. There's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot.
Stu Burguiere
There's a lot.
Pat Gray
And some of the cuts are pretty good, I think, as well. There's not enough of them. There are a lot of problems in the bill. They, of course, to get votes. There's two ways to do it, Pat. You either bribe people like they did with Lisa Murkowski to get the 50, 50 vote. They just bribed her. Just gave her all sorts of stuff that she wanted for her state. Or the alternative, which will also occur here is Donald Trump comes and yells at everyone and they do whatever he says. Those are the two ways you pass bills in today's Congress. Bribe the congressman or Donald Trump yells at them. That's what we have here.
Stu Burguiere
He threatens him to be primaried. Whatever.
Pat Gray
Yeah. He'll say, you're not maga. You're gonna get primaried. Thom Tillis was one of these. And there's two ways to react. If you were a Republican, you almost never stand up for what you believe in.
Stu Burguiere
Why would you do that?
Glenn Beck
Right.
Pat Gray
You can't do that.
Stu Burguiere
Why would you?
Pat Gray
With exceptions, Rand Paul being one of them. We all knew Rand Paul was gonna be no to this bill because it's a giant bill that increases the debt a lot. And he's been consistent on this every single time, basically, since the dawn of man. He opposes these things. You knew he was gonna be a no from the beginning. He said I might be able to get to a yes, but at no point did I believe he was going to get to a yes because he has ideological opposition to this. And I. I respect. Tend to respect that. I.
Stu Burguiere
A lot of people don't know. A lot of people are just pissed off at him.
Pat Gray
Yeah.
Stu Burguiere
I'm not one of them.
Pat Gray
Right. I'm not one of them either.
Stu Burguiere
I'm not mad at him. I'm not Mad at Thomas Massie.
Pat Gray
No.
Stu Burguiere
They're both really good legislators. They're both good representatives and they stick to, as a rule, what they believe.
Pat Gray
Yep. And I don't have problems with, with people like that.
Stu Burguiere
No.
Pat Gray
You know, Chip Roy is another one who actually did. Yes. Initially on this and is now saying the. This version of it he can't support. He will be very happy to tell you exactly why he's doing that. It's not because he didn't read the bill. It's not because he doesn't have any idea what's in it. It's not because Donald Trump hasn't yelled at him enough yet. Right. It's not because he hasn't been bribed enough yet. There are a few representatives who think that way. It's just really rare. Really rare. So I think a better solution to this, and I'd love to get your thoughts on this, Pat, would be a less big, perhaps, I would argue, more beautiful bill that did attempted smaller, less attempted to do, you know, didn't have a lot of these giveaways, didn't have all this stuff in there.
Stu Burguiere
I just talked about this on my show. Break it up, okay. Into a whole bunch of different bills if you have to. Let's get the tax cuts done. Do that separately. Let's get the border bill done. Let's do that separately. And then, you know, we can, we can hash out all the rest of the stuff. There's no reason, I don't think, to put it all into one big, beautiful bill because it's not as beautiful as it could have been.
Pat Gray
Right. The only thing is, of course, the reconciliation process. And it's like to get that, to get only 50 votes, you have to have, you only get one shot at that here, and that's fine. And I think you can put, I mean, you can, I think, even put in the tax cuts and the border package and a couple of other things. But like, they have, I mean, the list of things that are in here, I mean, if I started reading it right now, just the list, not the whole bill, we would not get through it before the end of the show. I mean, there's just so many different things.
Stu Burguiere
Wow.
Pat Gray
That are in there that are just, you know.
Stu Burguiere
Well, it's 1100 pages, I think they said when they started reading it. So, I mean. Yeah. There's a lot of stuff jammed in that thing.
Pat Gray
Yeah, a lot.
Stu Burguiere
A lot.
Pat Gray
Yeah, it's. It's a ton.
Stu Burguiere
And nobody can know everything in it. You know, even though they read it, you know, they weren't paying attention. There's. There's not a single human alive who knows all the things in this bill.
Pat Gray
Right. It's like one of those Netflix series about 1700s England. You might watch the series, but you don't know what's going on. They're just saying these words and they sound like English, but they don't mean anything, as he would say, Pat. They're just speaking gibberish.
Stu Burguiere
Right.
Pat Gray
So no one could possibly know. At the end of the day, I would love to have a bill that was less big and more beautiful, I think.
Stu Burguiere
Me too.
Pat Gray
You do need to get these tax cuts passed. It has to happen.
Stu Burguiere
Absolutely, yes.
Pat Gray
It's a requirement. I think it's sensible. People are like, well, this is what Donald Trump ran on. Some of this is what Donald Trump ran on. I mean, sure, the border and the tax cuts are on there and things like no tax on tips, which again, is fine, by the way. It's a very small piece of this. When you look at the overall, you know, what are the costs, Pat? The costs in here? The costs are almost $5 trillion of it are the tax cut extensions. Okay. So almost all of it. The, the, the next highest cost to me.
Stu Burguiere
That's not a cost to me.
Pat Gray
It's not a cost either. That's not a cost. It's the current law.
Stu Burguiere
Right.
Pat Gray
Number two, it's not a cost. The government takes less of our money.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah.
Pat Gray
It is not a cost to the government.
Stu Burguiere
Sorry, that wasn't yours to begin with. So that's not a cost to you.
Pat Gray
I reject this completely.
Stu Burguiere
That pisses me off.
Pat Gray
It's infuriating construct, Pat. Yes. To call this a cost, but that is what. One of. That's the by far the biggest cost of this bill. Second biggest is other tax provisions. What's that? It's stuff like, you know, no tax on tips. And the cost on no tax on tips is 32 billion dollars over 10 years. Okay. It is not even.
Stu Burguiere
It's 3.23. 3.2 billion a year.
Pat Gray
I don't even wake up nothing. I don't even wake up for 3.2 billion a year.
Stu Burguiere
No, we don't. And you certainly don't get out of bed for that.
Pat Gray
No. So absolutely not.
Stu Burguiere
You roll over and you go right back to sleep.
Pat Gray
No, it's like a lot of these programs that people talk about are not even factors in this. There are also some temporary tax cuts that they kind of come on and expire. One of his other. There's kind of those. No Tax on tips, no tax on overtime, I think is one of those.
Stu Burguiere
Oh, right, right.
Pat Gray
There's no tax on. You know, they wanted to do no tax on Social Security. They didn't actually do that, but they did wind up cutting a decent tax cut for seniors. I think you'll see out of this bill. There is a lot there. It's just one of those situations where that's basically all it is when it comes to savings. They keep talking about Medicaid cuts. Have you looked into what the Medicaid cuts are, Pat?
Stu Burguiere
The cuts to illegal aliens?
Pat Gray
You know, that's. There is some of that. Like, they keep saying, well, it's waste, fraud, and abuse. And first of all, the reason they say that is every single person on earth is against waste, fraud, and abuse. Right? It's 100% of people, except for the people abusing and wasting. Those are the only people who actually ever say anything about that. But the biggest Medicaid cut, and I'm gonna put this in massive air quotes for those listening on radio or podcast, the cut is. And I was like. I kept looking at this. I'm like, why do they keep saying this? How are they coming up with this being a cut? They keep saying they're cutting it because of work requirements. And I was like, well, it can't be what I'm thinking here. Right? They can't be saying a work requirement is a cut for the reason I'm thinking. And I was like, I can't be it. So I did a bunch of research on this. You'll be surprised to hear. It's exactly what I was thinking. Oh, wow. Which is what they're saying is they say, hey, you have to work 20 hours a week to. To get Medicaid.
Stu Burguiere
Okay?
Pat Gray
And there will be a bunch of people out there who will say, a, I don't want to work 20 hours a week, or B, I don't mind. I don't really feel like doing the paperwork to prove that I tried to work 20 hours a week. So therefore, I'm not gonna bother attempting to get Medicaid.
Stu Burguiere
And so that's the cut.
Pat Gray
So it will cost less. And they're saying that's a cut to Medicaid.
Stu Burguiere
Unreal.
Pat Gray
Which is insanity. To say that it's a cost, that our taxes won't be as high.
Stu Burguiere
Unbelievable.
Pat Gray
Is insane.
Stu Burguiere
Yes.
Pat Gray
I think it might be more insane to say it's a cut. No. People who are eligible to Medicaid will lose their Medicaid. Only they will just say. Because they're adding Some requirements, some extra paperwork. And we all know how these programs work, Pat. Like, if you've ever known someone who's been on, you know, who went on unemployment, you go on unemployment at the first guy. I don't know how long, I'm just estimating this, but like, I remember I had a relative who went on unemployment and he was like, well, you know, it was like the first 13 weeks were basically nothing. He had to do basically nothing other than just apply to the program and get accepted. And then after 13 weeks, they were like, hey, you need to prove that you're doing some interviews. And so he did. He would go and he would do the interviews, but I don't know how interested he was really in getting a job. But he went and did whatever basic requirements they did. And it was not particularly hard to stay on there. Eventually you do get to a point where it gets kind of difficult to stay on and. Or it runs out.
Stu Burguiere
Right, right. Yeah.
Pat Gray
That is the situation with these Medicaid. We all know that for a while you're probably gonna just get the Medicaid. If you say you're trying to get a job and eventually they might get a little bit harder on this. They passed a program like this in Arkansas where some people did fall off the Medicaid rolls. But again, I keep saying this, oh, no, if you will not go through a basic round of requirements to get this program, you probably don't need the program. Now, there could be some exceptions, right? Someone with like severe health problems that maybe can't get out. So, you know, you have a heart attack in the middle of this process, you don't file the paperwork, you lose your Medicaid. That shouldn't happen. Right. There are certain things that need to be covered. But generally speaking, that is the Medicaid cut they're talking about. They're talking about people who don't fill out the forms. By the way, if you don't get a job, okay, because there are people who might maybe can't get jobs and work the 20 hours requirement, right. Those people can fill up forms saying, I'm trying to get a job. They can volunteer in certain circumstances. There's plenty of other ways to get around this. So it's not just like, oh, because I could see you want to get a job and you can't get it. That happens to people. So you have to have a way to carve that out. Of course there are these carve outs for this. They're just saying some people won't go through with it.
Stu Burguiere
Now, wow.
Pat Gray
I think there's a good argument to say that at least some of those people probably didn't need Medicaid. They probably have some other way of getting what they need. Some people might be too lazy to do it. Some people might be too stupid to do it. Some people might get caught up in red tape for real reasons, as we were discussing. But generally speaking, that's what they're saying. That's what they're all worried about. We can't cut Medicaid.
Stu Burguiere
Have you heard any Republican explain that to the American people? I, I don't think I have.
Pat Gray
I don't think I have either.
Stu Burguiere
I don't think I have. I don't understand why they can't do.
Pat Gray
It, which is why I had to look it up. Yeah, I was like, wait a minute, this can't be.
Stu Burguiere
How is it possible that you can't explain that to the American people? We'll find out in just 60 seconds or so.
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Pat Gray
Yeah, we were just talking about what is, what is bad in the big.
Stu Burguiere
From a conservative standpoint. Yeah, what, what are the things that we would object to despite the best.
Pat Gray
Efforts of some of the people we talked about. There are some green subsidies in here. There are some Biden spending programs. You know, because we always talk about these big bill, these big programs. People get used to them, right? They get locked in Maybe we said this with Obamacare at the time, people are gonna get used to their free healthcare and then they're gonna say, well, you can't take away my free healthcare right now, some of that stuff makes sense when the program has been in place for 20 years. Right. It doesn't make sense when it was passed by Joe Biden. However, some of that spending, not all, but some of that spending is still in there. Some of the green subsidies are still in there. You know, there's been a big effort by conservatives to say, hey, wait a minute, get rid of these completely. There's no reason we can't get rid of the green stuff passed by Joe Biden in the last term.
Stu Burguiere
Right.
Pat Gray
A lot of that money's not even spent yet, Pat. Some of the money that's not spent, they got rid of some of the money where, like projects have already been designated. They're like, well, they've already started. And so a lot of that money still gets spent. Right. Like, the Senate was worse on that than the House. Yeah.
Stu Burguiere
Oh, well, stop them.
Pat Gray
Yeah, not that hard. So that's in there. I mean, the biggest problem is, again, the scope of it. You're talking about a $5 trillion.
Stu Burguiere
But like you said, most of that's from the tax cuts, right? Making them permanent.
Pat Gray
Well, yes, yes, I think that's true from a cost perspective when they say, quote, unquote, cost.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah.
Pat Gray
There's also some defense spending, new defense spending. Well, yes, there's homeland security and immigration spending. And then there's a bunch of a slice of a bunch of other stuff in there. Most of it is the tax stuff. Now, tax provisions also uses some of that. Green subsidies and things like that would be included in that. I don't like that stuff. There are a lot of people in Congress who have these projects, might employ 1,000 people in their states, in their districts. And so they say, even though they're, quote, unquote, conservatives or Republicans, they say, well, I've gotta be loyal to my state, these people are working or they're gonna have these jobs and I don't wanna cut these jobs, which again, I don't agree with, but that's the reasoning behind it. And the tax cut extensions to me, should not be thought of as a cost at all.
Stu Burguiere
Nope.
Pat Gray
But with all that said, the trillions of dollars are going to pile up because we're not balanced now. So extending current policy now and adding some new spending is still going to increase the deficit. This is the Rand Ball problem with all of this, Right?
Stu Burguiere
Yeah.
Pat Gray
We are. We're not in alignment with how we're supposed to be spending. We're not spending what we make. And that is a big problem. So it just locks in for multiple years in a Republican vision of the future. Massive debt and trillions of dollars of spending. So that is I think the biggest problem with it.
Stu Burguiere
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Stu Burguiere
It's Patton Stufer, Glenn 88727 Beck. So also in the big beautiful bill is a provision for all babies born between now and 2028. They all get $1,000.
Pat Gray
Yeah. You were asking what's bad in the bill.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah.
Pat Gray
This would be an example from my perspective of something bad.
Stu Burguiere
Just a flat out give away.
Pat Gray
Just giving away.
Stu Burguiere
Because you got born, you get $1,000.
Pat Gray
Yes. They're called Trump accounts.
Stu Burguiere
Okay.
Pat Gray
And you know, again, the president's done many good things, but this one, I would, it's a nice. I can understand why you'd want your name on it. Right. A family has a baby born, they need money. They like money. You know, having a savings account where there's a giveaway to you to your child, they will appreciate that. Right. Someone handing you $1,000 is something appreciated.
Stu Burguiere
Typically you're not gonna say no to it.
Pat Gray
You're not gonna say no to it. So that is why you wanna put Trump it's why he, when they did the stimulus checks, he put his name on it. Right. He understands that dynamic. Well, Trump accounts to me are a terrible idea. And I hope they get stripped out of this bill. Somehow I really doubt that they will. Basically, it gives a tax advantage savings account for children when they are born, $1,000 per child if they are born between 2024 and 2028. Now, you might pop into your head, number one, this is a government giveaway program. It's an entitlement. I mean, as pure as entitlements can be, all the only requirement is birth. Okay. That. That is as pure as an entitlement.
Stu Burguiere
Without regard for income. Right.
Pat Gray
Without regard to income.
Stu Burguiere
You could be a billionaire, have a child, and that child will get a thousand dollar account.
Pat Gray
Yeah. Someone, someone actually pointed this out. One of the congressmen who was opposed to it. I remember who it was, was like, Elon Musk has like 12 kids a week. We're gonna keep giving him $1,000 every single time he has a kid.
Stu Burguiere
That's enough to bankrupt America right there.
Pat Gray
I'm terrified by the cost of this.
Stu Burguiere
Oh, man.
Pat Gray
And this is interesting. Listen to this. Carve out late changes to this provision. This is, according to the New York Times, late changes to this provision removed a requirement that a parent be a US citizen to qualify.
Stu Burguiere
Oh, you gotta.
Pat Gray
For the $1,000 contribution.
Stu Burguiere
They removed that requirement.
Pat Gray
They removed that.
Stu Burguiere
So you could be an illegal alien who just gave birth to a child. That child gets $1,000.
Pat Gray
Yeah. Or at least not a citizen. You could be maybe a green card holder or you could be a visiting student or whatever. But if you have the kid. And of course the kid, by the current interpretation of the 14th Amendment, is going to be a citizen no matter what. So they all get the thousand dollars as well. So two students that come over hook up. That's the thousand dollars. Now, couple things on this, Pat. Number one, do you believe in 2028, we're in the middle of this presidential campaign, that there's going to be either candidate.
Stu Burguiere
No.
Pat Gray
Either a Democrat or likely J.D. vance running on a, you know, a third Trump term. Essentially he's going to say we need to get rid of these thousand dollar giveaways debates.
Stu Burguiere
Absolutely not. It won't happen.
Pat Gray
Of course there's one thing that will happen, though. One of the two sides, probably the Democrat, but maybe J.D. vance, I don't know, will say $1,000 isn't enough. It needs to be 2,000. What can you do with $1,000? Maybe it's 5,000. Maybe it's $10,000 per baby. There's no way this just becomes $0 in 2029.
Stu Burguiere
No.
Pat Gray
Right.
Stu Burguiere
It becomes much more than a thousand.
Pat Gray
Of course it does. This is the start of a massive entitlement program that is in the middle of this bill and should just be stripped out. It's silly. You don't get $1,000 lottery ticket scratch off that wins every time when you're born. Come on. I mean, it just. I can't even believe we have to make this point. I understand why it's in there. I understand why it seems like a wonderful giveaway or why you might promise it during a campaign, but come on. This is the United States of America. We should not be gifted. We should not be buying children for $1,000. No, that should not be the thing.
Stu Burguiere
That we do, and certainly not under a Republican administration and a Republican majority in the Senate and the House. There's no reason for that because we all.
Pat Gray
We all know that the Republican. The Republican position will be the most restrictive possibility for this going forward. And when it becomes $5,000 in. In four years or eight years or whenever that occurs, there will be some evil Rand Paul character that will come in and say, I think we should cut this to only $2,000. And everyone will call him a fascist and that he hates children.
Stu Burguiere
Yes.
Pat Gray
And that he is the. They will show every poor mom who wants to. Wants their kid just to have $10,000 in free money and they don't have it anymore. Or they will show the kid who got the savings account and spent it on college and now has a wonderful family and is a doctor. They will show that sob story, and they will say, gosh, why Is it only 10,000? It should be a million dollars. You know, I mean, this is the. It's the minimum wage argument. It's everything. And they will present it, by the way, as a cut.
Stu Burguiere
They will.
Pat Gray
They will say to only $2,000. That's a cut. You're cutting money to poor families. Blah, blah, blah, blah. We've been through this so many freaking times. And the only way to stop this is why we were so hardcore on Obamacare at the time is before it starts. That's the only time to stop it.
Stu Burguiere
Yep.
Pat Gray
This is the week to stop this program.
Stu Burguiere
And the perfect example of that is Social Security and Medicare, those two programs. You can't even speak about cutting or. Or making more difficult to obtain in any way or just pushing back the time that you receive all of that stuff. It's just Completely out of the question now. It's. It's untouchable now. We've become so accustomed to it that it's just a part of our lives. And we demand it. We don't just expect it, we demand it now.
Pat Gray
Yeah. I mean, Pat, Donald Trump will call his opponents fat slobs on television. He will say literally anything about anyone. That's one of the things we love about him, right?
Stu Burguiere
Yep.
Pat Gray
Even he has said over and over and over again he will not touch any of those programs, which is why it's so dumb. The big attack on him every single campaign is like, oh, he's gonna. He's gonna cut all these programs. He has said over and over again from the beginning, he will not touch any of them. He just said the other day, I don't like doing a lot with cuts. He just said it the other day, I don't like doing a lot with cuts. That is. That's the Republican president who, by the way, I think, has done a lot of really good things. But there's no appetite for this anymore. There used to be at least the appetite to say they wanted cuts. They don't even do that anymore. That's where we are. So you implement a new program that again, supposedly only cost $15 billion to start for four years. What's that going to cost in 10 years? 20 years, 30 years? It's a bad idea. Stop it before it starts. I don't think anybody voted for Donald Trump because of the Trump accounts. And there's anybody who's like, gosh, I'm gonna vote for him because I want a thousand dollars and I go into a savings account that my kid can spend in X amount of years. I don't think that that is, you know, it's a nice. There's some nice feelings behind it, Pat. Yes. Nice feelings behind it. There's a lot of nice feelings behind literal socialism as well. And we should avoid those things as much as possible because, I mean, I don't know when you have a giveaway to someone just for being born. And I think there's an argument from some on the right who say, well, this is encouraging families. I don't know. Pat, you had 91 children.
Stu Burguiere
92 now.
Pat Gray
92. I'm sorry, I didn't love to very.
Stu Burguiere
Early this morning, and my wife just had a baby.
Pat Gray
Oh, really?
Stu Burguiere
Yeah.
Pat Gray
I was gonna say you're like Joe Biden with GR and can't even keep track of how many you have. And some of them, I think, you acknowledge all of yours. Which is great. That's really nice of you. But the point is, would you have had fewer children or would you have had more children? Would you have 96 children today if you got promised $1,000 for each one?
Stu Burguiere
I would not, no.
Pat Gray
That's not how people live.
Stu Burguiere
No.
Pat Gray
Especially when you can't access the money right away. It's a savings account that is going to be for the child. Let's like throw towards college or throws a new car when they need it or whatever later on in life. It's not like you just get $1,000 to spend on baby stuff.
Stu Burguiere
And if you're having kids based on financial considerations, it's going to cost a lot more than $1,000 to have the child.
Pat Gray
Used to be something that we were very critical of back in the day. You know, there was a time where we said, hey, people who are having lots of children to get. If it's like welfare, extra welfare money, that's a bad thing.
Stu Burguiere
Very.
Pat Gray
So. And I don't understand why this would be a. I can understand why Democrats would propose something like this. I just don't. But again, we should point out it's a small part of this bill and there is a lot of good. There's probably more good in the bill than bad. So I think that's why a lot of these congressmen are like, well, I guess. I mean, did you hear the Lisa Murkowski thing? I love the Lisa Murkowski thing. She is the holdout of the Senate. So of course, what they do, again, there's two things you can do. You can have Donald Trump yell at her. Murkowski, largely immune to that. She does not seem to care that much about Donald Trump yelling at her. She's one of the few who doesn't care about that part. She is not immune at all to bribery. So she's like, well, I want these things for Alaska. So she gets all these things for Alaska. And then she's like, all right, I'm a yes. And then she says, well, I really hope the House rejects it and sends back something else. This is a bill she voted for. And she's saying she hopes the House doesn't vote for it and then sends it back to them in another version, which may very well happen.
Stu Burguiere
It might. This thing is not gonna happen by Friday.
Pat Gray
It would be surprising, but pretty clear.
Stu Burguiere
That Wednesday we got one day to get this done and then sign in both chambers. I don't think it can happen.
Pat Gray
And Trump, by the way, again, is a negotiator. He knows he says it must be done by July 4th. Over and over again, everyone acts as if it needs to be done by July 4th. And then when it comes to July 4th, he'll say, well, July 5th, July 7th. He made it seem like a strong deadline because he wants it done soon. And so I understand that. And it seems to work on a lot of these people in Congress. They act as if they all know the rules. There's no reason it needs to be done by June. It needs to be done by the end of the year is when it needs to be done. And at least for the tax cuts to be put into place so we don't get the rise. It's important. That's a really important deadline. July 4th is not a really important deadline. That's a holiday. It's an important holiday. Our Independence Day is something we'd love to celebrate. It's not necessarily germane to this bill. So I don't think you're right. It's probably not gonna get done. But again, Donald Trump has a way of just saying, do it. Yeah.
Stu Burguiere
And they do.
Pat Gray
And they do.
Stu Burguiere
And they do.
Pat Gray
You know, it's the jump and how high. And for 95% of Republicans, that's usually enough. I don't think. I don't think most of them even think of it. Think of the situation beyond that. Does Donald Trump want it?
Stu Burguiere
I think you're right. Yeah.
Pat Gray
You know, and this is something I've been thinking about a little bit. I was talking to Chris Bedford on my show last. Last night about this. We have this criticism we've made a million times, Pat, of Republican GOP Congress. Well, they never do the right thing. There's the establishment, the Mitch McConnells of the world. And we've said all that stuff a million times. Does that apply to our current situation anymore? Who are these? I guess Thom Tillis is your example.
Stu Burguiere
Yes.
Pat Gray
Who are these people? Lisa Murkowski's on it. I mean, I guess Susan Collins voted no. Rand Paul's a totally different situation. We've already discussed. None of these people are going against what Donald Trump is saying to do. There's a few in the House and Congress that you have to deal with, but it's. I mean, Donald Trump is saying he wants this. He is saying this is the bill he wants. Now, we all know it's not perfect. It's not exactly what Trump wants. And there are things in there that I'm sure Trump would strip out if he could, but he says this deal is good enough. And almost all Republicans are going along with this, this idea that there's this big stress between some establishment figures and Donald Trump. Where is, where's the evidence for this these days? Yeah, 10 years, you know, eight years ago in 2017 or whatever, 2018, I think you did see that. I don't think you really see it anymore.
Stu Burguiere
No, you don't.
Pat Gray
There's not much of it. They pretty much will go along. If he finds it to be really, really important, they'll pretty much go along with it.
Stu Burguiere
Triple eight, 727 Beck. More coming up. Can't believe he used to be a top 40 disc jockey. But anyway, we still love him. Glenn Beck will be right back.
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Stu Burguiere
Foreign stew for Glenn today. Triple eight, 727. Beck. This is a really nice message from an unexpected source. Ilan Omar, actually. Really? Yesterday wished everybody a happy Independence Day. You might think, well, that's a little early, but okay. That's really nice, though.
Pat Gray
That's nice. You got us. Glad to see that you feel like you wouldn't get that normally from an Ilan Omar character.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah. But the reason you're getting it is because she's talking about Somalia. That's the Independence Day she's speaking of. So happy, happy Independence Day, everybody in Somalia. Alana Mars, still thinking about you. Okay, Somalia first and shocking. Isn't it, though?
Pat Gray
It's so good.
Stu Burguiere
It's unbelievable.
Pat Gray
Now, will we get a happy Independence day on the July 4th from.
Stu Burguiere
No.
Pat Gray
Now, maybe because she did this, she would do it as a throwaway.
Stu Burguiere
Maybe. And you would think that. But a lot of times she'll surprise you by, nope, not even that.
Pat Gray
She doesn't even feel the need to do that. You pathetic losers. She does not care at all.
Stu Burguiere
You know, all of these, the. The Hamas squad, the, you know, Lana Mars and Rashid Tlaib and all of those people, they don't. They don't seem to care what Americans actually think of them. They seem to be representing who they believe are their constituents. And for Ilana Mar, that's people from. Who immigrated here from Somalia. For Talib, it's Palestinians. I mean, they don't care what Americans think of them, but they keep getting elected. So I don't know when they're gonna, they're gonna wake up in Minnesota, but no time soon apparently. 88727 Beck much more coming up with Pat and stew for Glenn today. This is Glenn Beck.
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The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This, this is the Glenn Beck program today featuring Patton. Stew for Glenn. We got this Gallup poll you may have heard some about. We got to get into this, dig into how proud Americans are to be Americans and break it down by political parties, ethnicity and age groups. We'll get into this a little bit coming up in one minute.
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Stu Burguiere
So a Gallup poll has shown that Americans apparently are not quite as proud to be Americans as they once were. Back in 2001 they did a survey that found that 90% of Republicans were proud to be Americans, either very proud or extremely proud. And 87% of Democrats were either extremely or very proud to be Americans. That's changed just a little bit in the last 24 years. In fact, it's gone up for Republicans. It went from 90 to 92% for Republicans. For Democrats, a little bit different, it went from 87% to 36%.
Pat Gray
It's noticeable, Pat.
Stu Burguiere
It's a, it's kind of noticeable. Yeah, yeah.
Pat Gray
Now, bit of a drop off.
Stu Burguiere
You might be thinking, well, okay, was that when it was abnormally high? Right after 9 11?
Pat Gray
This is the exact question I had for Glenn when he brought this poll up. Because you know, if you look back at George W. Bush's approval after 2000, he's in the 90s, right? Like, yeah, it was a lot of weird stuff going on in polling in 2001 after 9 11.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah, we were together and everybody was kind of on the same page for about a month. So did it happen then? Is that what, is that why there's such a big difference? And it turns out that's not the case though, right?
Pat Gray
No, it was interesting cuz I had the same question and I was like, oh gosh, Was it just 9 11? Actually no. The Democrats remained positive on America for quite a long time. I don't have the numbers right in front of me, but it was like 10 years later, 2000, let's say 11.
Stu Burguiere
Still in the, they were like in the 80s, 80s.
Pat Gray
It wasn't quite as high as 2001, but it was still very high. Almost all the drop off has happened since about 2016. Now, you fill in the blanks as to what happened in 2016 that you think may have occurred in the Democrats mind to say that they're not all that impressed with America anymore. It did bounce back up, you'll be surprised to hear, for about four years. And now it's dropped off again to the lowest point of all time. This has something to do with Donald Trump very specifically.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah.
Pat Gray
With people on the left, they don't like him. Now, it had dropped off, though, from the heights of 90% before Trump, but most of the drop has happened since Trump came into office. So I don't know, is that, is that a good thing or a bad thing? Is it. Okay, maybe they just, you know, they're partisans, they don't like this. They have Trump derangement syndrome. Maybe it's not as large anti American sentiment. I tend to think it's long lasting. I think it's gonna last long.
Stu Burguiere
I think it is, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fascinating. That independence, if you're independent, you still. 53% of independents are extremely or very proud of America. It breaks down with 63% of men, 55% of women. White, 66% are proud of the country. Non white, 45%. So quite a bit lower. The real problem area, though, is with the youth, 18 to 34 year olds. Today, the Utes are down to 36%. 36% are either very or, or extremely proud of America. And I, I think you can blame a lot of that on, on what's going on in education. They're being taught that America is not something to be proud of. From 35 to 54, the number is 60% and 55 plus 72% of people are proud of the country. Interesting. Be. It'd be fascinating to see how proud, for instance, Somalians are of Somalia.
Pat Gray
I've heard Elon belt that one out on Independence Day the other day. It's wonderful. Yeah, that would be. I think it's interesting. I think there is a. Let me give you two scenarios here, Pat. Okay. And you tell me which bad one is true.
Stu Burguiere
Okay?
Pat Gray
Okay. Scenario number one. I think the one we're kind of all thinking here, Democrats, we used to be a more united country. People love the country. Over time, Democrats have turned more negative on it, have faded away. As we pointed out, a lot of this has happened since the Trump era began, and now they hate it. Okay, that's scenario one.
Stu Burguiere
Yep. Okay.
Pat Gray
Scenario two. Democrats, even in 2000, 2001, didn't really love the country. All that much. Maybe they were more negative than they let on, but they knew the right thing to say was they loved America. And now that cadence, that the current of the river that is America has stopped pushing people to think they need to say that right now the current is going the opposite direction. And it's pushing people to say, hey, you know what? I think it's cooler now on the Democratic side to say you hate the country, rather than, it's a good place, but there's got lots of problems.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah, I think that's. Yeah, that could be part of it. I think definitely be part of it. Yeah.
Pat Gray
Maybe it's both a little, because I do think that's part of it. Like, there probably were a lot of people. I mean, I don't know. I remember 2000, 2001, 2002. There's a lot of complaints by Democrats about America. They didn't like it all that much.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah.
Pat Gray
Certainly less than Republicans. I have this poll now in front of me, Pat. In 2001, it was 90% of Republicans, 87% of Democrats, 84% of independents who thought it was great. If you fast forward 10 years, you've got 92% of Republicans, 78% of Democrats. So it had fallen off from 87 to 78 in that period. Okay, go to 2000.
Stu Burguiere
But Republicans were the same or a little bit higher. And that was during Obama's reign of terror.
Pat Gray
Let's go to 2013.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah.
Pat Gray
Okay. Democrats, 85%.
Stu Burguiere
Wow.
Pat Gray
So you think about that. They've gone from 87 to 85 in 12 years now. Okay. And Republicans, by the way, are at 93 in that scenario, and independents at 80%. So again, in the middle, you think of 2013, this is right after Mitt Romney loses. I mean, this is a moment of real despair for a lot on the right because, you know, a lot of people point at that and say, this is what's changed the Republican Party. A lot of people say that loss for Mitt Romney in a time where obviously Obama was not doing a good job as president. And that's not me saying that his approval ratings sucked and he got reelected. And a lot of that was to do with Mitt Romney's performance, frankly. And obviously, as we saw after that, not really a conservative. But that factor led into such frustration on the right that they wanted somebody who was going to do something totally different. And that's when Donald Trump stepped into that void and was able to really change the party in a lot of good ways. Some ways you might not like Some ways you might love, but like certainly the change is noticeable from that party. 93% Republicans approve of America at the time, 85% of Democrats, 80% of independents. The fall all starts after this 2015. It's still 80% for Democrats. 2016, 68%. 2017, 67, 2018, 60% 2019, 51%. 2020, 42%. It bounces back up for the Biden era, But only to 62%. Then drops to 52 in 2022, 2023, 55%, 2024, 62% in an election year and then they lose that election and now it's 36%. So some of this is partisanship, some of this is Trump, some of this I think is, I think it's fair to say, especially when you look at the Biden bounce back, if you will, only going up to the 60s and 50s. A lot of this is just core in the Democratic movement. There is a core element of the left that is based on the idea that we are not a great country that has had some problems. We are a horrible country that's done maybe a couple of good things here and there. That is the major separation because throughout this entire period, Republican approval never dropped below 84%.
Stu Burguiere
And what year was it? 84.
Pat Gray
2022, which is the peak of inflation during Biden. It actually improves the last two years of the Biden administration, if you believe that, up to 85%. And now of course, it just goes.
Stu Burguiere
To show though that it's not affected by who's president. Not really. Republicans not affected all that much. Yeah, not really because it only vacillated from 93 to 84%. That's, that's amazing.
Pat Gray
Yes.
Stu Burguiere
Given who was president during some of that time. During 12 of those years you had, you had Obama for, for eight of them, which we hated. We, we hated the Obama years and then, and the Biden years were even worse. So for 12 of those years we had presidents we really disliked. Very strongly disliked.
Pat Gray
I love that.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah, uh huh. I very strong. But still love the country.
Pat Gray
Still love the country.
Stu Burguiere
Still very proud to be American.
Pat Gray
Still very much say this is the best place to be.
Stu Burguiere
Tells you a lot.
Pat Gray
You know, I agree with you. I think there is an element that has creeped in a little bit on the right. I think it's. But I mean it's quite clearly in the polling is very much at the fringes saying you notice this a little bit with some of the Israel, Iran stuff like basically, well, we kill people too and we do bad Things, too. It's not just Iran. How can we get on our high horses and say we're better than Iran? And we are. Pretty easily.
Stu Burguiere
We can easily say very easily.
Pat Gray
I can do it without any problem at all. Can I give you the most concerning thing in this poll for me?
Stu Burguiere
Mm.
Pat Gray
I'm not shocked, frankly, that Democrats are. Don't like the country that much. As I said, I think even in 2000, I think that number's inflated for Democrats. They're saying the right thing early on in this polling. For the first 10 years, it will be.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah.
Pat Gray
The thing that's concerning to me more than anything else are independents. Independents start off at 84%. And this is pretty standard through the first, I don't know, 15 years of this polling, which is they are about at the level of Democrats and oftentimes slightly lower than Democrats saying, America is a great place. Okay. Their fall, though, has been pretty consistent since the Trump era began as well. Started in 2015 at 76%. This is down a little bit from the very early days in 2001 of 84%. So 84 to 76 in 14 years. 2015 at 76 goes down to 73% in 2017. 70% 2018-6620-1964-2020. And you say, okay, well, maybe they didn't like that first Trump presidency. He was certainly a figure that divided people. Maybe it's that. But they don't bounce back for Biden. They continue to see this is a crap heap. It goes down to 63%, down to 60% in 2024, and then how it's dropped now to 53% in 2025. So just barely. A majority of independents say America is great. And I think that in some ways backs up the theory, number two of how to read this poll. It has now become kind of, okay, popular. The cool thing to say that America's a bad place.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah.
Pat Gray
Rather than it's generally a good place. And now you're seeing people, Independents, who aren't necessarily pushed around by partisanship as much agreeing to this. I mean, from 84 to 53% among independents.
Stu Burguiere
It's almost like a social contagion.
Pat Gray
Yeah. Yes. It's why we have 19 times the amount of trans people in our society every month.
Stu Burguiere
Exactly. Right.
Pat Gray
I. I just. I'm concerned about that because I'm not concerned that the. I'm concerned about it, but I'm not surprised at all that the left would turn against America.
Stu Burguiere
Right.
Pat Gray
It's frankly fundamental to everything they believe in, that America is a bad place. If you, if you want something like Zoran Mamdani. Yeah, of course you think America sucks, right? It's doing it stands for everything this person is against, stands against capitalism. It stands against free speech. It stands against so many of these things that a Mamdani or a Bernie Sanders would be against. If you're on the left, I can kind of get why you might have problems. If you're in the middle, though, we shouldn't be seeing fall off like this.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah.
Pat Gray
Especially, you know, and again, in a period where things are better than they are. And again you go, I know maybe Ilan Omar would choose Somalia over this, but other than that, I don't think there's many people who would.
Stu Burguiere
And speaking of Zaran Mum Dami, we'll get into some interesting policies of his. Coming up in one minute.
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Pat Gray
Breaking news, Pat. Breaking news here on The Glenn Beck Program, 88727. Beck is the number. It looks like we have verdicts in the P. Diddy trial or the Diddy, what am I supposed to call him? Sean Combs.
Stu Burguiere
Sean Combs.
Pat Gray
The Sean Combs trial. They had gone back and forth. I think there was five charges. They had four of them set yesterday and they were still stuck on the fifth one. They said there was no way they were going to get to resolution then this morning and they came and they said, hey, we came to a resolution on the fifth one. So it is a unanimous they have unanimous around all five. I'm just reading through this. Count one, not guilty.
Stu Burguiere
What was that count? Does it say.
Pat Gray
It says US Combs. My write up does not have that. Sex trafficking of Ventura. Not guilty. Transportation for prostitution. Guilty. Oh, sex trafficking. Not guilty. For the other woman, Jane, which is known as Jane, transportation for prostitution for Jane, guilty. So basically they got him on the prostitution stuff, not on the sex trafficking stuff.
Stu Burguiere
Flying from state to state is what he's being what he got convicted for, right? Yeah, I think taking these women across state lines, it sounds like. Yeah, but he wasn't sex trafficking.
Pat Gray
But that is, you know, again, I think, interesting. It's an interesting line. I will say when you look at the facts of the case, you know, the sex trafficking thing, you know, I don't know, take it out of the law for a second here. Talking as people who have an understanding of the basic English language. When I think of sex trafficking, what I'm thinking of is someone who's got a team of prostitutes that they're forcing in a slavery way to do a bunch of things. I don't know that that describes what he actually did. At least my understanding of it. Do you agree with that?
Stu Burguiere
I do.
Pat Gray
I don't know. I think of something totally different when I think of sex trafficking and I.
Stu Burguiere
Really haven't followed it closely because I have never been a P. Diddy fan or what. Yeah, Sean Puff Daddy Combs or whatever he called himself. I've never. It's got you. Surprising, right? Yeah. I don't have a single.
Pat Gray
Wow, that's shocking.
Stu Burguiere
P. Diddy Puff Daddy album. If he has none.
Pat Gray
You don't even know if he has.
Stu Burguiere
I don't. I don't even know if he has them. I'm sure he must.
Pat Gray
He must, right?
Stu Burguiere
He must have something.
Pat Gray
Odds are he does.
Stu Burguiere
Odds are he does. And I don't own any of them, nor have I ever listened to him on, let's say a Spotify, where you wouldn't own, but you're just kind of borrowing the song to play it whenever you want.
Pat Gray
Right.
Stu Burguiere
Never done that. So. Are you sure? I haven't followed him all of that, all that closely, but it's. It's interesting. I. I did hear that he probably wasn't going to be convicted on the sex trafficking thing. And sure enough, he was not. And he was not guilty on a racketeering conspiracy either.
Pat Gray
It's tough too, because, like, there's a lot of texts that would indicate, at least for a significant period of time, the women were into this. Right. Yeah, there's definitely now again, if they decide to change their mind on that, they deserve that opportunity. And that wasn't always a given to them. And there were seemingly, I mean, the stuff I had read that I was more shocked and horrified about was seemingly physical abuse towards these women. It wasn't necessarily transporting them for prostitution.
Stu Burguiere
There was absolute proof of it in video form right in that hotel hallway.
Pat Gray
Yes, that's true.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah.
Pat Gray
It wasn't just the text.
Stu Burguiere
Really ugly.
Pat Gray
It was accused.
Stu Burguiere
It was really bad. Yeah. But he wasn't being charged with that.
Pat Gray
Bizarrely. That's not what this is about.
Stu Burguiere
Right. You know, very strange.
Pat Gray
The law is very complicated, Pat. It is. But it looks like P did. He is convicted on two counts. Not guilty on three counts. We'll see if we can give you the. Give me. The biggest one was the racketeering conspiracy charge, which was not guilty. So that's the biggest one. We'll give you more detail coming up.
Stu Burguiere
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Stu Burguiere
It's Patton Stu for Glenn triple eight seven two seven Beck. Let's go to JD in Ohio. Oh, is this JD Vance hanging out in his home state? Hey, welcome JD we shouldn't have kept.
Pat Gray
You on hold so long. Sorry about that. Well, luckily I was on a little, little meeting here in the car, so it's okay. Okay. So I want to talk about this child bank account.
Stu Burguiere
Okay.
Pat Gray
So if you do the math, there's about 3.6 million babies born a year.
Glenn Beck
Besides the one that are killed in abortion.
Pat Gray
But the ones that are actually born, if you give them an $8,000 bank account, the dead are born, they don't touch it the rest of their lives.
Glenn Beck
At age 63, it's worth over a million dollars.
Pat Gray
That cost annually is about $30 billion. So if we could really get rid of Social Security by allocating about 30 billion a year for this program, and that's that they never put another dollar in it. If they put something else in it, if they contribute to it, it's worth, you know, even more.
Stu Burguiere
Millions.
Pat Gray
More.
Stu Burguiere
Much more. Yeah.
Pat Gray
Now, of course, you have to get.
Stu Burguiere
Rid of Social Security, though, to make that viable. Right. I mean, that's what, that's what you're proposing.
Pat Gray
There'd be a transition phase, you know, from people, you know, I'm in my 40s, somewhere in that age, you know, we'd have to transition. Now, I don't know exactly how to do it.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah, yeah.
Pat Gray
Up front would be, you know, the cost savings would be huge. Yeah, it would.
Stu Burguiere
Now.
Pat Gray
And now I love this world that, that you're talking about. I. I love it. I'd like to live there. Right. Let' about how it would look here, though, JD And I think you'll agree with this. What would happen, number one, is we'd give $8,000 to these, to the baby accounts, then we'd keep Social Security. It would not go anywhere.
Stu Burguiere
That is right.
Pat Gray
Then there'd be arguments that you have to raise the 8,000 to more. It would have to be 20,000. Why isn't it 20,000? Because, you know, AOC would come in and say it should be 20,000 or 30,000. And then, of course, the other thing that would happen is in the interim, the government would spend all those $8,000 accounts and say they were in a lockbox, spend it all another crap, and then people will get to the end of their lives and not have any of the money. Does that sound about right? That sounds pretty accurate, but. That sounds pretty accurate. Yeah, unfortunately. But I do.
Stu Burguiere
It would be great, though. Yeah, thanks.
Pat Gray
Thanks, J.D. can I give you a quick basic example of what JD Is talking about? We had a proposal that was similar in a way to what JD Was talking about. It was made by George W. Bush in 2005.
Stu Burguiere
Man, I wanted that to happen.
Pat Gray
He came through the 2004 election and he used his. What he believed was his political capital to try to get through Social Security. Privatized accounts and the left beat the.
Stu Burguiere
Crap out of him.
Pat Gray
Beat the crap out of him.
Stu Burguiere
Made it. Made it like he was trying to steal your Social Security from you and ruin Social Security when a. It was optional.
Pat Gray
It was optional. Yep. You could not enter it if you were really close to retirement. They would not allow it. Right. It was a very small. I think it was. It was between 4 and 8% of your Social Security accounts. So it was very, very small amount that you can contribute into these. At the time, though, Pat, you could see some of the worry of people who were like, well, wait a minute, what happens if the stock market goes down and all these things could go wrong and we don't know what's going to happen in the future? Which is. That's true at that time. It is no longer true. However, we do now know what happened in the future. And what would have happened is people would have had between two and five times the amount of money that they have now in Social Security. It would have worked in incredible fashion, as JD Was essentially hinting to in an accurate way. If you actually had a country that was disciplined that could do this. You're right. Basically, all scenarios. And that was the truth with the George W. Bush plan. In all scenarios, everyone from the beginning to the end of the program that would have entered it would have wound up in a better place than actually they are today. All of them 100%. Because there was a drop off, I guess, was it 2004? So that great financial great recessions period, 2008, 2009, we had a drop off in the markets, but no one could have retired in that period would have been affected by that because they weren't eligible. Not to mention, again, it was only 4 to 8%. I think there's two different proposals. I just went over this data a little while ago, but the proposals were a minimal amount. It wasn't like, hey, you could put all your money into stocks. They didn't even allow that. Which again, I would argue that if it's our money, maybe we should be able to do what we want with it. But this was just a very small slice. And even that, it would have been much, much, much more than we actually do have for these people. So we basically, this nonsensical argument that everyone in the media made against George W. Bush at the time, he was proved completely correct about and wound up costing people who are now retiring tens and sometimes six figures low six figures in income that they could have had today. So good job, everybody. Good job. Yeah, we did it. We did it, America. We did it. Once again. We did it to ourselves once again. Unfortunately, this is the real world we live in with a media that does these things.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah, you know, it's. It's why I. When the fair tech. Fair tax used to be talked about all the time. It's one of the reasons I basically opposed that, because.
Pat Gray
Can you remind people what the fair tax was?
Stu Burguiere
The fair tax was a. It was an evaluated tax. It was a sales tax, essentially national sales tax, on everything that's new. So if you built a home, you would pay the tax on it. If you bought a new car, you would pay the tax on it. If you bought an existing home or an existing car, you don't pay the sales tax. So it was originally talked about to be around 23%. So it's, it's a hefty tax. However, they said they would do away with the irs, so you would have no income tax at all. Your gross is your net. It's the same number that's appealing. So if you make a hundred thousand dollars a year, you get a hundred thousand dollars, not 60,000. So you get all your money and they eliminate all of the hidden taxes and all of the FICA stuff and all of that, and it would be replaced by the sales tax. Well, I, I just knew that what would happen is they wouldn't get rid of the irs. They would tell you they're going to try or they're going to do it, but then they wouldn't. And you would wind up with both the sales tax of 23% and the current income tax, which, by the way.
Pat Gray
Is the situation in Europe.
Stu Burguiere
Right, right.
Pat Gray
Like they have all of those types of taxes that was. That's what you get hit with in Europe like crazy. I agree. That's probably what would have happened here. I mean, the argument by some of them at the time was, hey, you know, it has to be essentially part of the same amendment of the Constitution, which would be the only way you could even entertain.
Stu Burguiere
Yes, you would have, first of all, get rid of the irs. When you do that, then, okay, yeah, maybe you can talk about the sales tax, the national sales tax or a flat tax would be great. And I don't know that you necessarily have to get rid of the IRS if you just do a flat tax. So you do 15% or whatever it is we decide on, but everybody pays the same. That's another tough sell because supposedly the rich would be paying less than or the exact same as the poor, which is so ridiculous.
Pat Gray
Yeah, I was, I was listening to, I mean, you just, you realize how this stuff happens. I was, I was listening, listening to a CNN interview, unfortunately with a congressman about the big beautiful bill. And the setup to the question. I wish I could remember the congressman, we could find the audio. But the setup to the question was so offensive to anyone who knows anything about the situation. It's like Donald Trump is going to increase the deficit by $5 trillion with tax cuts that almost exclusively go to the wealthy. And it's like all of this stuff and you're like, this is not true.
Stu Burguiere
It's not true. None of that statement was true.
Pat Gray
No. And the congressman was like, well, I take issues with the way you framed this, first of all. And he went through the stuff and I gave what I remember to be a relatively fine answer. But they're not always there to push back, right? All these stories are written with that tone before anyone gets a chance to push back. And then when you push back, you're just seen as this, like the Medicaid cut thing we talked about earlier, if you missed this earlier in the show, we went through. What they are calling Medicaid cuts. What they are largely calling Medicaid cuts are these, what they say are work requirements. So they're saying, hey, you gotta, if you're able bodied, so not someone who's disabled, for example. I know that's not the right terminology. Differently abled. If you're differently abled. So stupid. If you're disabled or if you're out of the age range, like if you're a senior or whatever and you have Medicaid, you're not affected by this at all. What they're saying is work requirement. If you're a 35 year old guy, that's totally fine. You got to get a job or at least try to get a job, okay? You can't just sit at home, which is reasonable, with no income at all and no work requirements and still get our free or very heavily discounted medical care. What they are saying, what they are calling a cut is that they figure that some people in that group will just not bother. They won't file the paperwork. So they won't or they won't want to work. They'll choose to not work and not get the insurance. And those people will not go into the Medicaid system, therefore the Medicaid system will cost less. It's not that they won't have access to the program. They will have access to the program. They're not cutting anybody's access to the program at all. They're just saying if you don't have these requirements, some people will just not bother to get it. And then the program will cost less. They're calling that a cut to Medicaid. That's what they're calling a cut. And it's insanity. It is insanity. But that is what they're doing. And when that is so much the conversation that you probably before today haven't even heard, that's what they're doing. You understand how these programs get locked in forever. And I have no ability to have any optimism over an $8,000 account that will solve our problems when babies are born. It's just, frankly, it's just not the way our country operates. The media will always be there. The Democrats will always be there. And frankly, a lot of Republicans will always be there saying, oh, these are Medicaid cuts. We have Republican senators today saying the reason they won't vote for this bill is because of the Medicaid cuts, when this is the reality of the situation. So, I mean, I think you got to deal with the world that we live in, unfortunately.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah.
Pat Gray
And it's not always so positive.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah. And it's stacked against any kind of conservatism because you got the mainstream media that you have to navigate against and you have the left. So it's. It's very difficult. Triple eight seven two seven, Beck. You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences. There's rough terrain ahead. Saddle up my friend, and stay tuned. Glenn Beck will be right back.
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Stu Burguiere
That's Pat and stew for Glenn. This is amazing that CNN has claimed now that shutting down usaid, which happened, I believe yesterday was their last official day at USAID. But it's going to contribute to 14 million deaths. And here's 14 million deaths. 14 million, cut eight. Here's CNN talking about it.
Pat Gray
Secretary of State Marco Rubio is hailing.
Stu Burguiere
The end of usaid, the nation's largest foreign aid agency. Get this. Even as a new analysis finds that its closure could contribute to some 14 million deaths in the next five years.
Pat Gray
Really? 14 million?
Stu Burguiere
14 million.
Pat Gray
This is the problem I have with conservatism overall, which is. I mean, we were shooting for at least 20 million dead, right?
Stu Burguiere
Well, I was hoping for 100 million. Yeah, well, yeah, but I was shooting for the sky.
Pat Gray
You're hardcore.
Stu Burguiere
Hardcore.
Pat Gray
The majorities aren't large enough to get 100 million dead. We were shooting for at least 20 million though. 25 million maybe.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah.
Pat Gray
And we're only getting 14 million dead.
Stu Burguiere
Well, short of that. And that's over five years, Stu, so that's not even.
Pat Gray
Some of those might not even happen.
Stu Burguiere
What is that? Three million? A little over three million a year.
Pat Gray
Some of those. Some of those people might even escape us.
Stu Burguiere
They might.
Pat Gray
Might. And that's. That's terrible news. So stupid. What are you talking about? 14. Where.
Stu Burguiere
Where is that coming from? Serious.
Pat Gray
Gotta be some UN analysis.
Stu Burguiere
I'm sure it is, but I want to hear the breakdown of how all of these people are dying because of the non existence of.
Pat Gray
Well, a lot of it assumes, by the way, a big chunk of this is. They assume nothing ever happens in its place.
Stu Burguiere
Yes, that's true.
Pat Gray
Like we fund a bunch of, like for example, HIV medication for Africa in a program that has been largely successful and we pull that money away. They say everybody now dies. Now in reality, what will happen, of course, is charities. Maybe other nations will chip in for some of this. I don't know. We've been doing it for a long time. Maybe they'll step up. Maybe the countries find it to be a priority.
Stu Burguiere
Somebody.
Pat Gray
Right. It's not all us or nothing, but that's how they assume and come up with these ridiculous numbers.
Stu Burguiere
And by the way, here's what Russell Vote was talking about them spending that money on.
Pat Gray
Anyway, Americans have been funding the following. Okay, 5.5 million to LGBTQ advocacy in Uganda. Oh, 800,000 for transgender people, sex workers and their clients in Nepal, cooking, psychological, psychosocial counseling, a cyber. And the dance dance focus groups for male prostitutes in Haiti.
Stu Burguiere
Okay, okay.
Pat Gray
Female prostitutes should get some of that money to come on.
Stu Burguiere
And what about the gender non specific? Where's their money?
Pat Gray
Only male prostitutes are getting this dancing cash. That's sad.
Stu Burguiere
So, yes, while 14 million people may be dying over the next five years, most of those are going to be male prostitute dancers in outer Mongolia or someplace somewhere. One legged deaf transvestite nuns.
Pat Gray
I mean, I'm sorry, do we live in a world where we want our male prostitutes to be bad dancers?
Stu Burguiere
No, we do not. Of all things, we do not.
Pat Gray
I don't want that world.
Stu Burguiere
Will it be a total embarrassment?
Pat Gray
I want them to be fantastic dancers. I want the choreography to be brilliant. When I get, whenever I'm hanging around male prostitutes, I want them to just be able to get down at the, the first note with their bad selves. Yes.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah. And not only that, but when they're tipped while they're dancing, these male dancing prostitutes, I want them, them not to be taxed right on those tips.
Pat Gray
That's true, that's true. I mean, I, I will say waiters, waitresses, strippers, whenever you get tipped.
Stu Burguiere
Right.
Pat Gray
And I don't know if it's gonna help everyone. I mean, I guess it'll, it helped.
Stu Burguiere
Me a little bit because, you know, I do it on the weekends.
Pat Gray
Right, but it's only a part time job for you. I don't get central to your, your boat.
Stu Burguiere
You know what I mean?
Pat Gray
When you're, when you're doing your exotic dancing, that's usually only on Saturday afternoons.
Stu Burguiere
Usually. Sometimes it goes into evening, but this is Glenn. Becky. Down the road where shadows hide Feel the dark on every side Stand your.
Pat Gray
Ground when times get dark Gotta face.
Stu Burguiere
It the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program. All right, we got to get into the Ziran Mandani situation. This is the communist Islamist running for mayor of New York City. Lead candidate right now. Can anybody stop him from becoming mayor of New York City? Doesn't look good. Really? We'll get into that and talk about some of his policies. The grocery store policy is interesting. We'll talk about that coming up in one minute.
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Stu Burguiere
It'S Pat and stew for Glenn.
Pat Gray
Oh good. I love patent stew for Glenn. We're talking about Zoran Mamdani. He is the Democratic nominee for mayoral.
Stu Burguiere
Babbling the other day about not moderating your message. Yes. As a socialist. Right.
Pat Gray
Oh, the one when he's in space.
Stu Burguiere
Yes. Do not moderate that message.
Pat Gray
Right.
Stu Burguiere
Why did you run as a Democrat then?
Pat Gray
Weird.
Stu Burguiere
Why? Why didn't you run as the lead socialist of the Socialist party or a communist? Why? What are you talking. Of course he moderated his message so that he could become the Democrat nominee. He's not a Democrat. Yeah.
Pat Gray
You know, I think that's this clip. This is the one where he's talking about seizing the means of production. I think I. The same clip. I mean, do we have that? Yeah, he's in space. Here's Zoran Mamdani with a weird background of a video where he's actually in space. What the purpose is about this entire project, it's not simply to raise class consciousness, but to win socialism. And obviously raising class consciousness is a critical part of that, but making sure that we have candidates that both understand that and are willing to put that forward at every which moment that they have, at every which opportunity that they're given. We have to continue to elect more socialists and we have to ensure that we are unapologetic about our socialists. Unapologetic. There are also other issues that we firmly believe in.
Stu Burguiere
And why do you run it as a Democrat?
Pat Gray
Whether it's bds. Right. Or whether it's the end goal of seizing the means of production where we do not have the same level of support at this very moment. And what I want to say is that it is critical that in the way that we organize, the way that we set up our work and our priorities, that we do not leave any one issue for the other. That we do not meet a moment and only look at what people are ready for, but that we are doing both of these things in tandem.
Stu Burguiere
Marxism with a smile. You love to see it, don't you?
Pat Gray
That's a big part of this huge. I will say the delivery mechanism of someone like Bernie Sanders with this exact same message. Or I will even say aoc, who's often angry and dour and like, again, she's a more attractive package, I guess, than Bernie Sanders. But like, you know, there's very rarely smiling happening with aoc. She's angry at everybody. This guy is doing it the totally different way.
Stu Burguiere
He's so nice about his Marxism.
Pat Gray
The biggest smile he has in that entire thing. And he smiles throughout the entire thing. But the biggest smile he has is he said, after we seize means of production. Right, right.
Stu Burguiere
Like he's saying he knows what he's.
Pat Gray
Doing, he knows what he's doing. And if you really like listen to what he said, there's there. It's basically like we can't just take the popular parts of socialism. Right. Like free health care, and just push for that.
Stu Burguiere
Right.
Pat Gray
We have to go for all of it. However, he is doing that with his mayoral election. He's just doing it with a smile. And an example of this is his when you say seize the means of production, a good step of this is taking over grocery stores and making it so.
Stu Burguiere
Which he plans to do.
Pat Gray
Yeah. This is one of his central policies.
Stu Burguiere
This is how it's gonna become affordable to live in New York City. You don't have to pay for your food, I guess. Or he's gonna lower the prices so low because they're government run that they can operate at a loss or just a break even spot. I don't know.
Pat Gray
This is infuriating to me. It kicks me into a rant that I always have on this thing because this seems crazy. Would you say, like to the average person living in Ohio, in a medium sized town, it would be crazy for your town to just open up a grocery store. Yes, right. A town owned grocery store.
Stu Burguiere
And anybody who said they were gonna do that would lose.
Pat Gray
Yes, I agree. And you'd think too like if they were to say, hey, and one of the big benefits is we'll undercut the prices of the actual businesses that opened in our town because we don't have a profit motive. And of course, have no reason to actually make the budget balance as no one seems to have in government. So it was raise taxes more. We have that backing. We'll get it built for free. We won't have to pay that back. We'll take all tax dollars. We won't have to spend a dime of our money to build it. We'll get all tax dollars to build it. And then we'll undercut the people who are here actually paying taxes to the community. That would be a really bad idea. I will note to almost everybody in a medium sized town in the entire listening audience, this is exactly what every town does with rec centers instead of gyms. And it's like everyone seems to think that's okay, well, we're just going to build a beautiful multimillion dollar rec center in our town. And the established, like, gyms that people pay, you know, membership fees to will undercut those membership costs. And then we'll still collect money from our competition to pay for our gym. This happens all over America. It's not just gyms. But that's just the easiest example. It is amazing what flavors of socialism we'll put up with and which we won't. I'm just, I know that no one else cares about that issue except me, but it just is infuriating to me. It's like, wait, why did I have to spend all this money in taxes for you to build this thing when there's three gyms in the area that I don't want to go to any of them, by the way, I should know. I didn't say why I really want to go to a gym. I quite clearly do not. Anyway. But that is what he's proposing here. The exact same thing, except with grocery stores. Exact same thing. He's saying he's gonna build grocery stores he's gonna take. Now, how he's gonna pay for these, Pat, that's the tough thing. Cause you know what the conservatives will say, how are you gonna pay for this? This is his proposal as he describes it with giant smiles throughout. How he's gonna take over the grocery store system in New York. Grocery prices are out of control. The cost of eggs and milk has skyrocketed. Some stores are even using dynamic pricing, jacking up the cost over the course of a day, depending on what they can get. Are they. It doesn't need to be this way. I'm Zahran Amdani, and as mayor, I will create a network of city owned grocery stores.
Stu Burguiere
It's like a public option for produce.
Pat Gray
We will redirect city funds from corporate supermarkets to city owned grocery stores whose.
Stu Burguiere
Mission is lower prices, not price gouging.
Pat Gray
These stores will operate without a profit motive or having to pay property taxes or rent and will pass on those savings to you. Now think about how, how unbelievably unfair that would be to other grocery stores. He's going, he's not going to. They're not gonna have to pay rent, they're not gonna have to pay taxes. They're gonna get all the buildings built for by taxes. Right. And so all these places, wait a minute, we need to charge $3 for eggs. They can just charge $2 for eggs. In theory, again, this is all in socialist theory. But there's a bigger problem with this particular proposal. He's smiling throughout that, by the way. It is the exact pitch you got for Obamacare, if you remember the public option.
Stu Burguiere
I do remember. Right, yeah. That was you're gonna pay 2,500 less per family per year if you want.
Pat Gray
To keep your grocery store, Pat, and keep your groceries. If you like it, you can keep it. But no, here we are now with grocery stores and we're all like, I mean, it does sound completely insane, but it's better than that. It is better than that, Pat, because what his plan is to pay for that, that would be the first thing anyone would point out. Like, wait, how are you going to pay for that? Raise taxes? No, no, he's going to redirect money that's going to two corporate grocery stores.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah, the big evil big grocery, big grocery we all hate so much.
Pat Gray
Right. So in theory, like depending on what your grocery store is around you, a Kroger or an Albertsons or a Stop and Shop or a Whole Foods, whatever it is, the New York City government is taking millions of dollars and giving it to these grocery stores for some reason. Now that to me stands out as something odd. What do you mean? Why are they giving away money to grocery stores? Why aren't grocery stores just doing whatever? Grocery store, My understanding was they just come in and they open it up if they think they'll be profitable and they stay open as long as they can be. That's my understanding of grocery stores. Now it's so funny to hear this because first of all, it's built on a left wing lot. First of all, the reason why there would be any reason to give money to grocery stores in New York City is because they complained about food deserts. Okay?
Stu Burguiere
Uh huh.
Pat Gray
They said there's no grocery stores here for people to Eat. They have to go too far to get their groceries. So we are going to try to promote a program that forces these places or incentivizes them, I suppose, with lots of money to build grocery stores in these areas where there aren't. Now, I had a series called Wonderful World of stew on BlazeTV, which preceded the studios America. And in that we had a series called Deserted was a segment we did. And we would go to the government website and we would find food deserts, and we would travel to the food deserts, and I would take people inside the grocery stores that very much did exist inside of these food. Food deserts.
Stu Burguiere
Right. There really weren't.
Pat Gray
They weren't food deserts. These were lies. In fact, some of them were in New York City.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah.
Pat Gray
So. So that on its.
Stu Burguiere
This was big when we lived in that area.
Pat Gray
Right.
Stu Burguiere
When we lived there, they were talking about food deserts all the time. And we're like, where is this food desert?
Pat Gray
Right. There's food everywhere. Grocery stores, restaurants, foods, bodegas, everywhere.
Stu Burguiere
Yep.
Pat Gray
So this wasn't even true. But the only reason this system exists at all that he's proposing, which is money going to corporate grocery stores, is because the left demanded it happened. Okay. However, there's even more to the story than this, because what happened with this program is he's saying $140 million goes from new York City government to these grocery stores. However, where this is not true at all. Where he gets this number is a program, and he describes it called Fresh. It's called Food Retail Expansion to Support Health. Again, does that sound like a conservative program? It is not. It is a food desert attack program. Supposedly it's called Fresh. If you go to the website, they have a fancy website, tells you about the program. And let me just show you, Pat, the. You can explain this to the audience, but this is the website here. And you see, that's like promoting the website. Hey, look at all these wonderful things that we did. You saw the. What did you see? The one big yellow box, right? There's one big yellow box on the web. The yellow box says $140 million, the amount of money invested in New York City's economy through Fresh. That's the program name.
Stu Burguiere
Okay?
Pat Gray
So that's what he's saying.
Stu Burguiere
He's saying we're gonna take that money.
Pat Gray
Give it to socialist grocery stores instead of the evil Kroger or whatever they have in New York for Whole Foods. Okay. So in some ways you'd say, all right, I guess that kind of makes sense. I mean, it doesn't make Sense to me, but in a socialist mindset, you're a New York City voter, maybe that makes sense to you. The problem with it is the $140 million number that's in the yellow box on this website is actually not the amount of money given from the government to corporate grocery stores. That number is the amount that corporate grocery stores have invested to bring grocery stores into New York. This money does not come from the government. It comes comes from the corporate grocery stores who invested their own money to build and open up grocery stores inside of New York City. This website is bragging about, hey, we did this system and we brought in all this corporate money into New York. That's what they're bragging about. It's not money that goes to the grocery stores from the government. The only thing that happens with this program, in fact, no money pat, goes from the government to these stores, $0. The only thing that happens is they get a couple of tax benefits. That is something like a couple of million dollars, which again is not New York City's money. It is the corporate money of the grocery stores and they get a slight reduction in their taxes to come into these areas. So none of this money exists. Now, this is a central program of his mayoral run. It is the thing he's probably promoted more than anything else outside of free no rent increases, which is a whole nother socialist catastrophe waiting to happen. So now let me take it to another level because this is a fascinating story to me. This story was written by Tim Carney. Tim Carney is a guy, you might know him. He's been on my show. Maybe he's been on yours. He's a conservative writer. Writer. And he writes for the Washington Examiner. Tim Carney's a good guy. He's a good writer. I'm glad he did this story. Why is it left to Tim Carney, a conservative in a Washington newspaper, to figure this out? The New York Times has probably written a thousand articles about this race and at no point did they bother to look, look at any detail of one of his central proposals.
Stu Burguiere
Wow, that's unbelievable.
Pat Gray
How on earth did none of the New York media, basically the center of all the, not even the United States.
Stu Burguiere
Though, but not even the Post.
Pat Gray
Nobody, nobody bothered to look at anything that actually was going on with this story. No one said, hey, wait a minute, where is this money coming from? Shouldn't we check into that? Are we really giving $140 million away to grocery stor? Why would we do such a thing? Nobody bothered to check it.
Stu Burguiere
And of Course the answer is they're not.
Pat Gray
They're not. They're giving that money. They're not giving that money.
Stu Burguiere
So where is he gonna get that money?
Pat Gray
Well, he doesn't have it now. And of course does he come out and say, gosh, holy crap, did I blow it? I'm so sorry, I just saw this yellow box and based my entire campaign on it? No, he doesn't bother to do that. What he instead does is just ignore this and does anyone pushing him on it?
Stu Burguiere
Nope, nope, nope.
Pat Gray
Even after this, no one's pressing him on it?
Stu Burguiere
Not been asked at all?
Pat Gray
No, no one. He hasn't really had to release a statement at least as of several hours ago. Maybe he's addressed it, but this has been several days since the story came out.
Stu Burguiere
Wow.
Pat Gray
So the money doesn't exist. The the program is based on a lie, a misreading of a giant yellow box on a website. That's the amount of research he did to announce a brand new program. This guy might be mayor of our largest city in our financial center.
Stu Burguiere
Not good.
Pat Gray
Not only is he a socialist and as we noted a couple minutes ago, has shown support for communism multiple times. Yep, that guy might be mayor of New York. And no one's even bothering to fact check the nonsensical socialism he's proposing.
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Stu Burguiere
It's Pat and Stu for Glenn. Did you see that? The. The actual Iranians have now admitted. This comes from government spokesperson Fatemaj Majira. Ronnie. He just admitted that after assessing the damage in Iran done after the bombing. It was severe is how he labeled it. Severe damage was done to their nuclear sites. So the leakers here in America are trying to do their very best to hijack the narrative and hurt the president and the country and the message. But this comes directly from Iran. Amazing. Amazing. It was another acknowledgment that Fordo Isfahan and Natanz, the key sites within the nuclear program, had been seriously or severely damaged by the American strikes. And that's from their state run news agency.
Pat Gray
See?
Stu Burguiere
And it's probably more reliable than some of the leaks we've been hearing lately.
Pat Gray
You think so?
Stu Burguiere
I, I think it, I think it would, you know what, what would motivate them to lie about that? For instance, to say that the damage was more severe than it actually is.
Pat Gray
I mean, I guess maybe.
Stu Burguiere
Maybe just stop the bombing.
Pat Gray
Yeah, you don't need to bomb anymore. You really notice that? I mean, it's possible. That's not usually the way they handle this.
Stu Burguiere
It's not like, not likely though, because yeah, they like to actually, they like to do the opposite with their people and try to. I mean, it's like their Ayatollah crawled out from underneath a shelter and claimed victory.
Pat Gray
Yeah, they. I mean, Israel is about to be wiped off the map. That's the only reason the Americans stopped bombing.
Stu Burguiere
That's what they said, actually. Claimed that they destroyed one third of Tel Aviv and that millions were fleeing Israel. Oh, you're seeing different reports than we are, that's for sure.
Pat Gray
So you think we'd notice it, but that is the way that they typically handle those things. So that's a good sign of the efforts.
Stu Burguiere
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Pat and Stew for Glenn today. Triple 8727 Beck. So Diddy was found not guilty of.
Pat Gray
Three of the five charges, including the most serious ones.
Stu Burguiere
Yes.
Pat Gray
Including sex trafficking, the racketeering situation. He was. The only thing he got convicted on was two charges of transporting prostitutes across. This is so weird. It's always that. It's always the problem. We seem to be totally fine with people having prostitutes in state. Like as long as you're doing it in your local community, it's totally fine. But if you bring those prostitutes from Florida into Georgia, outsourcing, that's where the problem.
Stu Burguiere
You got to put our foot down now.
Pat Gray
I think it's even okay to travel to Georgia to hook up with Georgian prostitutes. It's. You just can't bring them from Florida to Georgia.
Stu Burguiere
Okay.
Pat Gray
That apparently is a big line in our, in our society, which is a weird line. Right. It seems to always be the thing that is the big issue. They trot well, they transported them across state lines. Yeah. But like, isn't the thing they were doing with them the problem? Like my problem with Diddy has been, I don't know, his tendency to be beating women up in hotels. Like that seems to be really bad to me.
Stu Burguiere
Yes. Yeah, yeah. That was not good.
Pat Gray
And like prostitution, not a good thing, Not a good practice. Pat. Despite all the hullabaloo around it. But my issue with it isn't typically the flight. It's more of the prostitution and the even more importantly forced prostitution for some of these people.
Stu Burguiere
Again, you're a stickler. You're really a stickler.
Pat Gray
It does. It doesn't. It seems like there was a lot of prostitution going on with Diddy, but much of it, at least supported by a lot of text messages was showing that it was agreed upon between the parties, at least for a large Chunk of it. The issue that I think the main problem most people would have with it was when it went beyond the situation of agreement and, you know, fists were thrown to enforce it. That kind of seems like the bigger issue. And he wasn't even charged with that.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah.
Pat Gray
I don't understand our legal system sometimes.
Stu Burguiere
No, it's, it's very bizarre. Very bizarre. But he could, I guess he faces. Is it 20 years?
Pat Gray
Yeah, up to 20 years in prison now. I don't think there's any indication that's going to be the penalty. Yeah, like his supporters are very happy with this outcome. It seems like they were celebrating outside the courtroom. He was saying thank you to the jury afterward. So it does appear that they are happy with this outcome. You would assume a first time conviction for someone on prostitution charges? Probably not 20 years. Right. It's a year or two. Maybe. Maybe probation.
Stu Burguiere
Probation and a fine, some sort usually.
Pat Gray
Again, we seem to sometimes give punishment away to people who molest children. And it's like probation and like, you know, someone speeds too much in a particular zone and they go to, you know, they go to Gulag for 40 years. Like, I don't understand what's happening sometimes in our system, but that it does seem to be. The punishments are strange to me.
Stu Burguiere
Very.
Pat Gray
Yeah. Not a good guy. I think we could say that again. We have this on video where he's beating women up in hotels. And for some reason that was not.
Stu Burguiere
The charge into, into some weird things. But, you know, who am I, you know, to decide what, what is weird and. And what isn't? He was into some different things though. And, and yeah, and then there's the, the video of him actually beating his girlfriend in the hotel, which is really horrible, really horrific. All right, we got this climate activist, former friend of Greta Thunberg, who now says that the climate change movement is a scam. A decade ago, Lucy Biggers was like a lot of people in their 20s. She believed that climate change was posed an immediate and catastrophic risk to mankind, that we should rapidly eliminate fossil fuels to address the problem that renewables are up to that task and that our wealthy, privileged lives in the west are a mark of shame. Her fans cheered her on. She interviewed people like Greta, became friends with her. Over time, though, she began to question her leftist ideals and she started to see the climate movement as anti human and ultimately harmful. She now calls the climate movement movement a scam. And she's making videos on TikTok and elsewhere in hopes that young people will consider a more positive view of Modern life, one they can hopefully be grateful for. In turn, they can escape the anxiety. She says the climate movement causes young people to feel, man, is that not so true. People like. Well, Greta Thunberg, who obviously believes the world is about to end.
Pat Gray
She.
Stu Burguiere
She said years ago that we had, what, 12 years left before catastrophic extinction begins on this planet. And. And that's what's being told to these kids. And so they grow up with this fear.
Pat Gray
Yeah.
Stu Burguiere
That the world's about to end. So, yeah, there's a lot of anxiety in this movement.
Pat Gray
I mean, it's. It's legitimately a terror. It terrorizes them. Right. Like you think about a horror movie, Right. That has some. Some scary villain, some boogeyman that would scare a child. And their lives get changed. Every time they want to go to bed, they were afraid there's a monster under their bed. That is how a lot of kids actually are right now because of climate change, because of a 0.9 degree Celsius temperature rise over a century. They're sitting here freaking out, thinking that they're not gonna make it to their golden years because the world is going to end. Think of what a psychotic thing that is to do to a child. Wild. You're ruining their lives.
Stu Burguiere
Despicable. Despicable. Fear mongering.
Pat Gray
Yeah.
Stu Burguiere
With no concern for what it does to kids.
Pat Gray
No. Michael Shellenberger wrote a great book about this, and one of his main motivations was seeing his daughter's friends terrified by global warming, worried they were going to die.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah. Because he too was a believer.
Pat Gray
He was a believer, but he was. I don't think he was ever that psychotic about it. Like, you know, he would. He was like. You know, I remember, the first time, I remember seeing him was he was in a documentary about nuclear power and he was talking about. I mean, that was one of the things that was featured.
Stu Burguiere
He was an advocate, I think, for nuclear power.
Pat Gray
He was saying, hey, you know, nuclear power would be a great way. We have really serious climate concerns. This is a great way to address them.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah.
Pat Gray
And so he was always, you know, he got all sorts of environmental awards from the left, but he was maybe a little bit more sensible than some of the crazy people, the Gretas of the world were. But I mean, think of what the population and the media in general did to this poor girl. I mean, they completely used her to try to get their plans through. They used the emotional. I mean, look, this is no secret. One of the most. The greatest correlations with youth is stupidity. Okay. When you're Young, you're kind of dumb. You don't know. You start off, you don't even know the language. Right. You don't understand math. You slowly grow out of your stupidity as you grow. That doesn't mean you land in a place where you're smart, but you supposedly learn things as you go on through life. And so when you're 11 years old and you're skipping school because you think the world is going to end from climate change, the appropriate response from adults is, honey, I understand you're concerned here. We can go through some of the facts on that, but it's not appropriate to do what you're doing. And there's no reason to panic like this. Yeah, sure, we have concerns in our world, but you don't. There's no reason to be like this. Instead, it was, she's right. She's the only one telling the truth. She's so brave. Look at all the wonderful things she's doing for the world. Every piece of this idiocy was awarded and rewarded over and over and over again. And so she, understandably, I think, for her child, took that as, everything I'm doing is great. Everyone's approving of it. I'm being lauded by the United nations for what I'm doing, and therefore I should continue doing it. Now she's taken it to another place that is rewarded by the United Nations. Hating Jews. That's where she is now.
Stu Burguiere
Amazing. Yeah.
Pat Gray
And again, now there's some people who are like, gosh, I don't know, maybe we shouldn't have just, I don't know, embraced her so hard, maybe. We embraced her so hard we suffocated her and her brain turned off. But, I mean, she was, you know, again, like a child who's, at some level, at least at one point, was a victim in this. Now she's an adult now. So I.
Stu Burguiere
She was actually headed at one point. Right. For God, Gaza. She was going to support Hamas at Gaza when the Israelis headed her off and said, yeah, you know, and kidnapped her.
Pat Gray
Pat.
Stu Burguiere
They kidnapped.
Pat Gray
They kidnapped.
Stu Burguiere
They did. It was. She's frightening.
Pat Gray
It was a weird kidnapping.
Stu Burguiere
It was.
Pat Gray
They kind of told her about it in advance.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah. And they didn't actually take her anywhere and keep her someplace.
Pat Gray
No, they. They put her on a nice jet, fed her, put her on a nice jet and flew her back to her home. Now. Now, someone pointed this out and it was a great observation, which was. It was the first ever kidnapping where the only qualification to get out of the kidnapping was to leave the Only request was please get out of here.
Stu Burguiere
That is a weird kidnapping.
Pat Gray
Usually a kidnapping means you must stay. Their kidnapping was you must go.
Stu Burguiere
Oh, wow.
Pat Gray
Which is odd.
Stu Burguiere
Sort of defeats the purpose, the kidnapping.
Pat Gray
I mean, maybe the Israelis are just bad at it. They don't, you know, they're bad at that.
Stu Burguiere
They're bad at Genocid.
Pat Gray
Yes. Terrible.
Stu Burguiere
Really bad.
Pat Gray
They keep feeding the people they're supposed to be killing.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah.
Pat Gray
Which is strange.
Stu Burguiere
And warning them to leave places that they're about to bomb. That's not a good way to commit genocide.
Pat Gray
Yeah.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah. So they're really good at killing terrorists, but bad at genocide, bad at kidnapping.
Pat Gray
Yeah. They need to work.
Stu Burguiere
They're gonna have to work on.
Pat Gray
They're gonna need to work.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah.
Pat Gray
But it is sort of like. I mean, it's. First of all, it's good to see that some of the kids that were in this movement at the time, friends with Greta, are coming out of it.
Stu Burguiere
Yes, it is good to see that.
Pat Gray
That's good to see. Again, you can look at climate change. Some people do think there are issues with climate change. However, when you look at it, this is something that we're very capable of handling.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah. The biggest problem with climate change right now is that there's more food. Which, man, I hate that because it's making us all fat. That's the problem we're having on this planet right now.
Pat Gray
Yep.
Stu Burguiere
We're getting too fat because there's too much food to go around. Yeah.
Pat Gray
Yeah. Gosh, that terrible abundance.
Stu Burguiere
I just, I actually saw an honest article written a week or two ago and they were talking about the fact that the warmer temperatures are causing more food to grow. Wow. Good for you for at least acknowledging that aspect of it. Now if we get to the. What is it they. They're afraid of? Fahrenheit, like 5 degrees Fahrenheit or 4 degrees Fahrenheit or whatever. If we get to that point. Yeah, that would be a real problem. And. And then the food becomes burned up and we. We've got famine at that point. But I mean, that is a. Not happening right now. And the forecast for the temperatures to end up, where are they trying to keep it under? 2 degrees Celsius? Is that the deal?
Pat Gray
Or 2 point something degrees? Yes. I can't remember the exact number. They, I mean, they change it all the time also, you know, it's such a ridiculous standard. Like, like as if there's this switch that goes off.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah.
Pat Gray
At this particular.
Stu Burguiere
If we can control any of it anyway, which I, You Know, I guess if you, if you believe that every bit of the increase is brought on by CO2 coming from mankind, I guess you think that cutting back on the CO2 is going to fix the problem. But you could remove every car in the planet and it still wouldn't, it wouldn't be enough to get them where they want to be.
Pat Gray
No, of course not. You know, and of course we've also had real improvements on this anyway. Right. I mean just the switch from, you know, coal to natural gas has led to a real decline in emissions. We've declined ours quite a bit without all these massive climate initiatives that they said they wanted.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah. And let's talk to China about the fact that they burn more coal than not just the United States, but every country on Earth combined. So.
Pat Gray
Yeah. And they are by far emitters of by far carbon dioxide. So it's a situation that is laughable and is obvious to anyone who's not a child. Right. Like if you're not a 15 year old skipping school, this is probably pretty obvious to you. If you're embracing it, most likely you have another agenda. Agenda. Right. At least especially if you're in this world. Right. These politicians, I mean, I think there's a lot of people who are just generally left leaning that are, you know, oh, I like the, you know, I like the planet. Clean air, clean water. Of course, everyone's for clean air, clean water, everybody likes the planet. It's just this stupid catchphrase.
Stu Burguiere
And I can understand a lot of.
Pat Gray
Those people just being fooled by this. Right.
Stu Burguiere
Yeah.
Pat Gray
I mean, it's a scary thing that's out there somewhere, this future that could collapse on you at any moment. You can see how it works on some people, but like, you know, the.
Stu Burguiere
People that are proposing it know, $8, 727- Beck. They want you silent, obedient and blind. Well, shoot, here we are with open eyes and a bit of rebellious nature. Hold the line, my friends. Glenn Beck will be back in a minute.
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Stu Burguiere
Something we didn't get to today. We'll have to get into this tomorrow because the University of Pennsylvania just agreed to take back the performances of Leah Thomas. Yeah. And his swimming records at the University of Pennsylvania.
Pat Gray
Well, he didn't. He didn't have swimming records. He had female swimming records.
Stu Burguiere
Female swimming. Yes. Right, right, right.
Pat Gray
And medals and awards.
Stu Burguiere
Because when she was a he. She was finishing. He was finishing last in the races. Against men. Yeah. And then switched and started competing against women. It went a little better for him.
Pat Gray
Well, actually, Pat, there's no scientific evidence that men are better at sports than women.
Stu Burguiere
No, none at all.
Pat Gray
None at all.
Stu Burguiere
Like there's Not a under 15 year old boys team that just beat the women's national Swiss soccer team seven to one.
Pat Gray
That's not science.
Stu Burguiere
That's not science?
Pat Gray
No.
Stu Burguiere
That's just circumstantial evidence.
Pat Gray
Exactly. There's. All they are is just endless anecdotes. That's all it is.
Stu Burguiere
Over and over and over again throughout.
Pat Gray
All of human civilization. But other than that.
Stu Burguiere
No proof.
Pat Gray
No proof.
Stu Burguiere
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Summary of "Diddy’s NOT GUILTY Verdict Shows How Sad Our Legal System Is | 7/2/25" – The Glenn Beck Program
Release Date: July 2, 2025
In this episode of The Glenn Beck Program hosted by Blaze Podcast Network, Glenn Beck engages in a robust discussion with his co-hosts Pat Gray and Stu Burguiere. The conversation delves into several pressing political and social issues, offering insights and perspectives characteristic of Beck's candid and engaging style.
The primary focus of the episode revolves around the recent Senate vote on what the hosts refer to as the "Big Beautiful Bill." This comprehensive legislation passed with a narrow margin, highlighting the deeply polarized nature of current American politics.
Senate Vote Details:
Concerns Raised:
A significant portion of the discussion centers on the so-called Medicaid cuts proposed within the bill. Pat Gray and Stu Burguiere argue that these "cuts" are, in reality, the introduction of work requirements for Medicaid recipients, misleadingly framed as reductions in funding.
Pat Gray Clarifies:
Stu Burguiere’s Agreement:
Impact on Recipients:
Another contentious topic is the provision for "Trump Accounts," which mandates a $1,000 savings account for every baby born between 2024 and 2028. The hosts critique this as a governmental giveaway that burdens the fiscal system.
Pat Gray’s Critique:
Stu Burguiere’s Concerns:
The hosts analyze the legislative process surrounding the bill’s passage, pointing out the tactics used to secure votes, such as bribery or influence from key political figures like Donald Trump.
Pat Gray on Legislative Tactics:
Elaunchment of a Smaller, More Manageable Bill:
A Gallup poll is discussed, revealing a significant decline in the percentage of Americans who are proud to be American, particularly among Democrats and Independents.
Polling Highlights:
Implications:
The episode covers the verdict of Sean Combs, also known as Diddy, who was tried on multiple charges related to sex trafficking and transportation for prostitution.
Trial Outcomes:
Critique of Legal System:
The conversation shifts to former climate activists like Lucy Biggers, who have turned against the climate change movement, labeling it a scam. This segment critiques the movement for inducing anxiety among youth and promoting what the hosts view as unrealistic fears.
Pat Gray’s Observations:
Comparison with Michael Shellenberger:
Briefly, the hosts touch upon the shutdown of USAID, citing a claim that it could contribute to 14 million deaths over five years.
Stu Burguiere’s Commentary:
Pat Gray’s Skepticism:
Pat Gray on Medicaid Cuts:
“What they are calling Medicaid cuts are these, what they say are work requirements” [16:14].
Stu Burguiere on Senate Vote:
“The Senate being evenly divided, the Vice President votes in the affirmative. The bill as amended, is passed” [05:36].
Pat Gray on Baby Savings Accounts:
“It's a government giveaway program. It's an entitlement. All the only requirement is birth” [26:00].
Stu Burguiere on American Patriotism Poll:
“53% of independents are extremely or very proud of America” [58:55].
Pat Gray on Diddy’s Verdict:
“They got him on the prostitution stuff, not on the sex trafficking stuff” [63:53].
Stu Burguiere on Climate Change Movement:
“We’re getting too fat because there’s too much food to go around. That’s the problem we’re having on this planet right now” [120:17].
Glenn Beck and his co-hosts wrap up the episode by emphasizing the challenges posed by the passing of the Big Beautiful Bill, the misrepresentation of Medicaid reforms, and the troubling trends in American patriotism. They call for vigilance and proactive measures to address these issues, advocating for a return to principled conservatism free from deceptive legislative tactics and misguided social programs.
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