Ep 248 | Kid Rock’s WILD White House Dinner Plan to Unite America | The Glenn Beck Podcast

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 248 | Kid Rock’s WILD White House Dinner Plan to Unite America

Release Date: March 8, 2025
Host: Glenn Beck
Guest: Kid Rock
Platform: Blaze Podcast Network

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1. Introduction

In Episode 248 of The Glenn Beck Program, host Glenn Beck engages in a candid and dynamic conversation with the multifaceted artist Kid Rock. The episode delves deep into Kid Rock's unique persona, blending his rock star charisma with his conservative values, and explores his endeavors to bridge cultural and political divides in America.

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2. Breaking the Mold: Kid Rock’s Unique Persona

Glenn Beck introduces Kid Rock as an unconventional figure who defies simple categorization. He highlights Kid Rock's blend of conservative beliefs with his identity as a rock and hip-hop artist, emphasizing his unapologetic love for his country and his refusal to conform to political correctness.

Notable Quote:

Glenn Beck [00:34]: "He is a red-blooded old-fashioned American hero... He won't be politically correct and he's not gonna stop loving his country even when it's unpopular and it costs him friends or even audience."

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3. Embracing Cowboy Culture and Rodeo

The conversation shifts to Kid Rock's involvement with rodeo culture, despite his Detroit roots. Kid Rock shares how his early life on a six-acre property with horses influenced his appreciation for the toughness and independence embodied by cowboys.

Notable Quote:

Kid Rock [05:22]: "Kid Rock's Rock and Rodeo... It's kind of cool. It's kind of badass."

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4. Political Landscape and Cultural Divides

Glenn and Kid Rock discuss the current political climate, reflecting on the deep divisions within America. They touch upon the concept of a cultural revolution, the impact of Generation X on politics, and the sway of media narratives in shaping public perception.

Notable Quotes:

Glenn Beck [09:38]: "Generation X was really responsible in many ways for Trump's win. You had a big part of that."

Kid Rock [10:26]: "I get it, wearing a helmet, but you're like, man, you got to get some bumps and bruises at the same time. But God forbid something happened to your child or their friend. That was horrible."

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5. Tackling Ticketmaster and Scalper Issues

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the challenges posed by Ticketmaster, scalpers, and bots in the ticketing industry. Kid Rock outlines his plans to address these issues by implementing caps on ticket resales and advocating for more transparent pricing models.

Notable Quotes:

Kid Rock [20:29]: "If the DOJ takes them out and makes them sell their company, I will not shed a tear."

Kid Rock [22:08]: "We need to cap the resale of tickets at like between 10 and 20%. Otherwise, American people are just getting screwed."

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6. Critique of the Music Industry

Kid Rock offers a scathing critique of the modern music industry, particularly targeting record companies and their exploitative contracts. He contrasts the past exploitation with his own success in maintaining control over his earnings through live performances.

Notable Quotes:

Kid Rock [27:41]: "It's just full of scoundrels and scumbags. Rip-off con artists."

Kid Rock [28:59]: "Heap awards shows like the Grammys and the Oscars, there's such horseshit."

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7. The Impact of Artificial Intelligence on Music

The conversation transitions to the role of AI in the music industry. Kid Rock discusses his interactions with Elon Musk and his thoughts on AI's potential to revolutionize music creation, balancing innovation with concerns over authenticity and artist compensation.

Notable Quotes:

Kid Rock [36:15]: "I don't use Google search anymore. I am now."

Kid Rock [52:11]: "People are up in arms about AI like we're stealing music. I'm like, good. I make all my money live."

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8. Personal Life and Balancing Fatherhood

Kid Rock opens up about his role as a single father, highlighting how his responsibilities towards his son and grandchildren have grounded him amidst the chaos of the music and entertainment industries.

Notable Quotes:

Kid Rock [30:54]: "I was a single father. I had custody of my son since he was very, very young... That really balanced me out."

Kid Rock [57:38]: "I have a terrific son and grandchildren."

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9. Upcoming Shows and "Rock the Country" Festival

Kid Rock shares details about his upcoming tour, which doubles as MAGA rallies. He elaborates on his new music festival, "Rock the Country," designed to celebrate American patriotism with thousands of American flags and a safe, fun environment for attendees.

Notable Quotes:

Kid Rock [47:39]: "I'm doing 19 shows... These are MAGA rallies."

Kid Rock [48:07]: "It's just a celebrate America listening to music."

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10. Striving for Unity: Dinner with Bill Maher

A highlight of the episode is Kid Rock's ambitious plan to unite disparate political views by hosting a dinner with comedian Bill Maher at the White House. He envisions this as a step towards fostering dialogue and reducing political polarization.

Notable Quotes:

Kid Rock [43:32]: "I'm starting the end of the month taking Bill Maher to the White House for dinner... Let's break bread, have some laughs... find common ground."

Glenn Beck [44:28]: "Anybody that is not pushing, that is anybody who is saying, don't talk to your family member. That's evil."

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11. Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks

As the episode concludes, Glenn Beck and Kid Rock reflect on the importance of maintaining individuality and resilience in today's turbulent cultural landscape. Kid Rock emphasizes the need for honest conversations and mutual respect to bridge America's growing divides.

Notable Quotes:

Kid Rock [45:26]: "We all have a ton in common, but the media likes to keep us polarizing."

Glenn Beck [57:03]: "It's been great to talk to you."

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Conclusion

Episode 248 of The Glenn Beck Program offers an insightful and spirited dialogue between Glenn Beck and Kid Rock, exploring themes of cultural identity, political polarization, industry critique, and the role of technology in modern society. Through their conversation, listeners gain a deeper understanding of Kid Rock's vision for uniting America and his dedication to staying true to his roots amidst an ever-changing landscape.

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Transcript

[Kid Rock]

I'm ready for my life to change. ABC Sunday, American Idol returns. Give it your all.

[Glenn Beck]

Good luck. Come out with a golden ticket.

[Kid Rock]

Let's hear it.

[Glenn Beck]

This is immense world. I've never seen anything like it.

[Kid Rock]

And a new chapter begins. We're going to Hollywood. Carrie Underwood joins Lionel Richie, Luke Bryant and Ryan Seacrest on American idol.

[Glenn Beck]

Season premieres Sunday, 8, 7 Central on ABC and stream on Hulu.

[Kid Rock]

And now a Blaze Media podcast.

[Glenn Beck]

Today, I sit down with a man who refuses to be put into a box. He sees an enigma in some way. He is conservative, but he's also a rock star. He's country, yet he's hip hop. He loves Jesus, but he drops the F bomb whenever he wants to. He is whoever he wants to be. And in that way, he is a red blooded old fashioned American hero. I mean, he's, he's a cowboy. Except he's not a cowboy. He's from Detroit. He does not comply to any kind of tyranny in any way. He won't be politically correct and he's not gonna stop loving his country even when it's unpopular and it cost him friends or even audience. We get into everything today from the rodeo to rock and roll to his plans to bring his liberal friend Bill Maher to some place you would least expect. And we also talk about Elon Musk and AI. Please welcome the original Kid Rock. Before we get into kid and the interview, let me just tell you right now, the average American is still finding it difficult to pay expenses every single month. In some cases, there's nothing left over to cover any extras. I don't have to tell you this. You might be even one of those people and you are going to feel trapped if you don't already. I remember several times in my life just not being able to cover everything and juggling. It can be so hard to manage emotionally, financially, and I'm an avoider. I just would avoid as much as I can. Or you grab the credit cards. If you are a homeowner and you are frustrated with that endless cycle that only produces more Debt, please take 10 minutes today and give a call to American Financing. If you're constantly carrying that credit card balance each and every month with an interest rate that's in the 20s or even 30s, American financing can show you how to put your hard earned equity to work and get you out of debt. They're salary based mortgage consultants. They don't work for the bank, they work for you. And they're saving customers an average of $800 a month. Could be you. $10,000 raise would be an awful lot. And you don't have to do anything for that raise except call American financing. Call them now, 800-906-2440. Or go to americanfinancing.net that's americanfinancing.net 800-906-2440.

[Kid Rock]

Have you ever spotted McDonald's hot crispy fries right as they're being scooped into.

[Glenn Beck]

The carton Just stands still. Hey, kid. How are you?

[Kid Rock]

Good. Nice to see you, Glenn.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, nice to see you. I have to tell you, I. I don't get nervous for interviews or anything, but you're a cool kid, and I've never been the cool kid. I feel like I'm gonna be sitting in the lunchroom and I'm about to be beaten up.

[Kid Rock]

No, you got me pegged, right? I'm not the cool kid.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, well, you are now. I mean, you have been off and on off, arguably, with half the country.

[Kid Rock]

With half the country.

[Glenn Beck]

What's the other half like? Have you lost a lot? Has this cost you anything?

[Kid Rock]

No Friends talking to a friend about it? No, I kind of, you know, not really. Not really. It's, it's. I mean, I, I, I just, I'm just an honest person. I love my country. That's kind of how simple it is. But so it wasn't really, you know, it came to a point where it wasn't. Once you've seen behind the curtain in this business.

[Glenn Beck]

I know.

[Kid Rock]

It's just freaking awful.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

It's disgusting and just didn't want to play that game, you know, with the awards and this, that and the other, and the politics involved with this and that and the radio and all that. And I'd say for a rainy day, that definitely was a factor in things.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

Well, you know, and, and I just, you know, I've always said I don't give a F. And that's very true in a lot of ways, but it's kind of thin. It's kind of thin things out. I'm sorry to make the point was for your question was, it's like, you know, you do something, and your friends, you get this group of friends that kind of turns their back on you.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

You're like, perfect. I just weeded out the idiots.

[Glenn Beck]

Right.

[Kid Rock]

You know what I mean? It makes life so much better.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

You know, because I can talk to anybody from any side or whatever if they're a little bit reasonable. Just be a little bit reasonable. I can sit down and talk to anyone.

[Glenn Beck]

Because you have done everything with everybody, you know, I mean, Sheryl Crow has. Not necessarily one that jumps to the mind.

[Kid Rock]

We don't talk a lot these days, come to think of it.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, okay, that makes sense. That makes sense. So we're here at. Because you're starting something with PBR and the rodeo.

[Kid Rock]

Yeah, Kid Rock's Rock and Rodeo.

[Glenn Beck]

So, I mean, you grew up in Detroit. There's not a lot of rodeos in Detroit.

[Kid Rock]

0.

[Glenn Beck]

The Motown Rodeo, I don't think happened.

[Kid Rock]

I like the ring of that.

[Glenn Beck]

What? What? What?

[Kid Rock]

You know, I grew up. I grew up north of Detroit. We had six acres, a couple horses. You know, beautiful home, beautiful spread and all that. But. So, no, it was far from growing up as a cowboy or rodeo. Although, you know, my parents were into that stuff. You know, they used to go, like to watch this fiddle player, Sneaky Pete, this little dirt and, you know, dad liked to ride his horse and things like that. But no, nothing like this. It wasn't until probably 20, I don't know if it was 20, 25 years ago, when I started performing at high levels and started doing rodeos. There's Cheyenne Rodeo and Rodeos in Canada, Calgary, and of course, the Houston Rodeo. And. And so I was like, man, it's kind of cool. It's kind of badass.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. First time you go to a road. I remember I was on CNN and I used to call myself a rodeo clown. I'm just a rodeo clown until I got the president of the Rodeo Clown association wrote to me and said, do you know what rodeo clowns do? And I'm like, okay, you're right. You're right. I mean, it is really badass to use your language.

[Kid Rock]

It is. And, you know, it's some. It's one of the toughest sports. And I don't mean tough like UFC tough.

[Glenn Beck]

Right.

[Kid Rock]

I mean like cowboys and that whole lifestyle. Cowgirls, they're just tough people. I mean, just the way the way they live, they work so hard, the way they raise their families, the way they love this country, to me, that's tough.

[Glenn Beck]

It's. It's weird because I think we were on the verge of absolutely flushing all of it away, and there's this. This renaissance that is going on. You know, I grew up in the west, and there's something about those mountains that when you get to the mountains, you know, which one am I? Am I going to be the one in the wagon train that actually crossed those, or am I going to be like, I'm out. There's something about the west, that is American unlike any other place.

[Kid Rock]

Yeah. I think we've seen it so many picture books and so many different things. You know, it's kind of embedded in our culture. And America owns that, you know, cowboy culture.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

You think, you know, it's the greatest movies. It's the greatest tales. Yeah. Whether it's campfire sing alongs or, you know, cowboys and Indians, whatever it is. It's just. I just arguably tough, you know, the. Just the coolest American thing ever.

[Glenn Beck]

I was here.

[Kid Rock]

Rock and roll. Give it a good run.

[Glenn Beck]

But, you know, it comes back down to this, though. The. The independent spirit of rock and roll.

[Kid Rock]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

Comes from the cowboy.

[Kid Rock]

And I think you just summed it up there. The independent spirit of a cowboy.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

That's really. I mean, that is independence and freedom. Like the open range, everything with it. A gun on your side, like.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

Hey, you know, you get out of line and you're really wrong. You just get shot. We're not going to have a big meeting about it with a bunch of guys with white hair on. And like, this thing's like, oh, you're just being an idiot and you're an asshole. And the. Boom.

[Glenn Beck]

Did you. Did you watch Yellowstone?

[Kid Rock]

I did that.

[Glenn Beck]

That is what I think everybody.

[Kid Rock]

Oh, that had a ton to do with it.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh, everybody was looking at Yellowstone that, you know, that. Critics from, you know, back east, whatever, that just didn't understand it. And what it was, was we're living in a time where the bad guys don't pay. It doesn't seem like anybody who's connected, you know, pays for anything. And there's no common sense. And that's what it was. I think the Yellowstone secret was. Boom. Sorry.

[Kid Rock]

And we gotta thank that guy, Taylor Sheridan, like. Cause now it's like pretty much half the country, you know, I guess we're all as divided as things are. It's like half the country that girls like, they're all just dressing up as sexy cowgirls now. I got no problem.

[Glenn Beck]

I gotta tell you women, it's better.

[Kid Rock]

Than, like the blue hair and the big nose ring.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh, yeah.

[Kid Rock]

The black goth dress where you're like.

[Glenn Beck]

Whoa, hey, don't say I don't look good. I used to be a man. I look really great. The. There's nothing sexier than a woman on the. On the horse with the flag going around and. Right.

[Kid Rock]

A thousand percent. I've said that a million times.

[Glenn Beck]

It is the most beautiful.

[Kid Rock]

It is.

[Glenn Beck]

It's just.

[Kid Rock]

It's beautiful.

[Glenn Beck]

It is beautiful. It really is. So Generation X was really responsible in many ways for Trump's win. You had a big part of that. What is it about Generation X?

[Kid Rock]

Which one is that again? The younger one?

[Glenn Beck]

No, that's the after 60. Born 65.

[Kid Rock]

Oh, okay. The old one.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

I don't know.

[Glenn Beck]

Not the old, old one. Not the old, old one. Your genuine. Your Generation X.

[Kid Rock]

So my generation.

[Glenn Beck]

Your generation. Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

Gotta lose layman's terms.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

Start confusing me with big words.

[Glenn Beck]

So, X, what. What is. What is the. Is there something different about that generation? Our generation?

[Kid Rock]

I mean, I think we just. I mean, the way I grew up was like, you went to dumb stuff. You got your buddies and your bikes at the gravel pit, and you're like, which one's gonna go first? Yeah. Go down this huge hill with no helmet on. And like, yeah, somebody broke their arm or got hurt this, that, and the other. And it's such a conundrum, especially, you know, having raised a son and having a couple grandkids now. It's like, I get it, wearing a helmet, but you're like, man, you got to get some bumps and bruises at the same time. But God forbid something happened to your child or their friend. That was horrible. You're like. You're caught in this. I call it kind of. I don't know how else to say, but. The pacification of America.

[Glenn Beck]

Exactly. Right? It's exactly how I describe it.

[Kid Rock]

Yeah. Well, yeah, that's what it seemed like it was. I mean, I'm sitting there watching Trump's speech last night, and somehow it came into my head like, what if George Washington was sitting here listening to this? Or, like, one of our forefathers? And I'm like, can you believe these mofos would be like. Everybody's like, and there are only two genders, male and female. And George Washington's like, the hell has been going on here? Are you kidding me? What are you guys talking about right now? Talking about advancing America and making a great society and living free. And he's like, hey, there's only men and women. And half the crowd's like, you're like, this is going on, man. This is bananas.

[Glenn Beck]

I know, I know. And you don't have to go to George Washington. You could go to. You could go to George W. Bush back in the day and say that.

[Kid Rock]

He was probably sitting at home laughing along with, like, are you kidding me? We actually have to say this, like, in a, you know, a big speech.

[Glenn Beck]

You know, the hell is. What is wrong with you? Saw him last night. What are they Thinking.

[Kid Rock]

And they always just look weird to me. Like, these far left people, they just look like people, you know?

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, I hate to say this, but you can tell. I can usually tell by the glasses they're wearing.

[Kid Rock]

Yeah, red. Red frames. You're like, far left.

[Glenn Beck]

Idiot.

[Kid Rock]

Yeah, like, you know, yeah. Major stereotype, people. It's so freaking fun. So honest, too, half the time. But, yeah, you can literally. I was talking with a buddy last night. You can kind of see people, they just look miserable.

[Glenn Beck]

Miserable.

[Kid Rock]

Like, everyone's not pretty. I get that I look like freaking Brad Armpit. I get it. But you know what I mean? It's something about. And I'm not talking their physical looks, just something. How they look.

[Glenn Beck]

Look. They look miserable.

[Kid Rock]

And it's not just now because they lost and they got to take a whooping from people and, like, get one of these. It's just. They've always just look kind of. I mean, I think they are miserable women protesting outside of abortion centers. Like, no one's sleeping with you. Like, what are you doing? Like, you know, who are you protesting for? Like, have you looked in the mirror? And it's not your physical looks, it's just everything about your aura. Like, yeah, you're just miserable. You're just a man hater.

[Glenn Beck]

It's the opposite of the girl with the flag on the horse.

[Kid Rock]

Complete opposite.

[Glenn Beck]

The. I was talking about it today. Imagine not being able to clap for the little boy who had brain surgery and brain cancer. Not being able to clap, actually saying as Elizabeth Warren did. Yeah, five more years of war.

[Kid Rock]

Talk about I'm looking miserable.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Kid Rock]

You're like, sir, ma'am, ma'am, sir.

[Glenn Beck]

She the. I actually have pity for them because I can't imagine living your life like that. What?

[Kid Rock]

Trump derangement Syndrome is crazy.

[Glenn Beck]

I know.

[Kid Rock]

Freaking real. You just saw it last night. This poor, just beautiful little boy with. I didn't even know he had brain cancer when they first started. Like, we're making him a FBI agent or a Secret Service guy or whatever. And this, that and the other, like, oh, man. And they say his brain cancer, like, oh, you know, God bless him, you know? And these people are sitting there like, nah, I know what's the matter with you?

[Glenn Beck]

I know. Find no hope in that. You were just. Weren't you just golfing with Trump and Elon Musk?

[Kid Rock]

Yeah. Sunday. Oh, Elon doesn't golf.

[Glenn Beck]

He doesn't golf?

[Kid Rock]

No. He came out and hung with us, like, the last three, four holes or something. Just. We're having A blast.

[Glenn Beck]

He. One thing is the age of the president. He's 78, and I don't think I could keep up with him.

[Kid Rock]

I can hardly keep up with him. I'm the Energizer. Go, buddy. Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, what is that? Is that just jeans? Because. What is that?

[Kid Rock]

I don't know. Because God bless him. Like, it's not from, like, eating the healthiest foods. No, no, God bless me. It's just. I mean, you couldn't pick an American out, like, bacon, eggs, sausage.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

Diet Coke and, like, you know, a few holes in. He's like, you want a Hershey's bar? I'm like, yeah, you want a Fanta? Did you have that cheeseburger fries? I'm like, this is.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. Everything that RFK is going to say is bad. He does. Did you know him before? During the first term.

[Kid Rock]

I met him. I. I endorsed him in Rolling Stone. Like, Susie came down that elevator. I'm like, boom. One business guy.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

This dude. I don't care who somebody slept with or what they did. You know, these little things that they just blow up your personal life. I'm like, I don't care if they're not, like, you know, doing weird stuff with kids or, like, killing people. I'm like, whatever. Live your personal life. Like, the America of business has sucked.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

Decades and decades. I'm like, let somebody knows how to run a business. Get in there. So I endorsed them there. Didn't know him, but I was pretty vocal about it, of course. Took a ton of crap, which.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, yeah, I like it.

[Kid Rock]

I could care less. Like, the last guy that's going to get upset, you know, sticks and I'm the Sticks and Stones epitome.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

And. And then Sarah Palin, I knew her a little bit, and first couple months of him being in office, she got invited to dinner and President told her to bring some interesting people. So she called me and Ted Nugent.

[Glenn Beck]

Two very interesting people.

[Kid Rock]

I've never, you know, having an awesome time at the White House. And it's just one. You know when you meet somebody and they're just. You could tell they're kind of cut from the same cloth. Yeah, I guess he's definitely got a rebellious spirit.

[Glenn Beck]

So what is it? What is it? Because he. I mean, you cannot relate to his kind of wealth, Elon. The same way you just cannot relate to that kind of wealth. And yet he's not. He's not a. He's not what you think he is. He's just a regular guy.

[Kid Rock]

I told A buddy yesterday. I'm like, you know, I've got to spend a few times with Elon now. We text a little bit. Like, I'd say we're friends at this point. And I was like, I'm not even thinking about how much money I like. To me, it looks like he doesn't have two nickels to rub together.

[Glenn Beck]

I know.

[Kid Rock]

Like, you know, it's just that, dude, we're clowning about this new app he has, and we were making jokes at the ufc. And it's kind of the same with Trump. You know, of course, all the stuff you're around, you're like, wow. And I love that stuff because this whole Hollywood thing is always like, it's this cool Hollywood thing. Not to put a picture of yourself in the house, you know, not to have your awards up. And I'm like, I got my stuff everywhere. I'm absolutely proud of what I've done.

[Glenn Beck]

Right?

[Kid Rock]

You know what I mean? I walk in his stomach. Oh, awesome. He's got him everywhere.

[Glenn Beck]

Have you seen. Have you seen Over. I think it's in the bar of Mar Lago. He's got the picture on the main floor. He's got the picture of him with the tennis racket. He looks like 25 years old.

[Kid Rock]

So good.

[Glenn Beck]

Like, I don't think you ever really played tennis, but I love the idea.

[Kid Rock]

So good. It's just fun, you know, I don't think people get. Sometimes, like, same with me. Sometimes I'm doing stuff, I'm like. And people are laughing at me. They don't realize I'm laughing harder at myself than you're laughing. Like, I'm just having a blast and having fun.

[Glenn Beck]

And he. And there's a.

[Kid Rock]

There's a. There's a fine. You know, there's a fine line there with some of it, but we just kind of cut from the same cloth on a lot of things. And Tucker Carlson said it. He introduced me at this show, our first year of this. This festival I do called Rock the Country. And he said one of the most poignant things I've ever heard. He was describing, like, what does a real American look like? And he's describing me to intro me. And he goes, he would be both disobedient but decent. I was like, boom. I love that.

[Glenn Beck]

I was watching the speech last night, and Trump may have. May have used the word revolution, but it struck me, as I'm watching, I thought, this is. This is a revolution without any bloodshed. This. This is. And I don't think people really understand that yet everything is changing. Everything is changing.

[Kid Rock]

Cultural revolution, number one.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

Start. And that really spills over into politics.

[Glenn Beck]

So do you think that, do you think that that cultural revolution is lasting or real? I keep, you know, we vote. We're only, what, six, seven weeks into it. Yeah. And so you're kind of like, okay, is this really going to last? Because we were so crazy, literally, I think we lost our mind as a country.

[Kid Rock]

Absolutely. There's no question.

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, but they're still crazy.

[Kid Rock]

You know, it's just, it's just that pendulum swings and, like, does it have to keep swinging so far to each side?

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

You know, I'd like it just to be, like, a little right over here.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

It doesn't have to be way up here. Right. Just a little right over here. That'd be my personal preference. But I just hope it doesn't go back and forth and we get in this, you know, boom, where it's like, hey, is there.

[Glenn Beck]

We can't survive as a country if we keep doing that.

[Kid Rock]

We got to just remember we're on the same team. We want the same things. We disagree on how to get there. And most reasonable people can have discussions and agree to disagree. It's the last thing in the book. Find common ground, you know, here and there and just, you know, okay, you're pro union. Somebody had a bad experience with them here, and their boss was taking too much money and it got corrupt. And, you know, you can have different points and many things and still be, and still be rational and reasonable, that it's, it's just unreasonable people. Nah. Put their heads in guillotines at this point.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay, there's that. Don't just tell me Pam's not building any guillotines. Pam Bondi.

[Kid Rock]

She might be.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, she might be. So you were, weren't you just with Pam on Ticketmaster, weren't you? You're, you're, you've been trying to.

[Kid Rock]

I, I had dinner with her at Mar Lago before she got sworn in. And it's not really, I mean, I, I, I, I've said this, like, Ticketmaster, like, they've been bad actors for years.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

If the DOJ takes them out and makes them sell their company, I will not shed a tear. It does not solve the problem of trying to get concert tickets into people's hands at the prices artists want to set because of the bots, the scalpers, the bad actors. And actually, the president just appointed Alina Haba to spearhead my ticketing thing, which is basically there's several things to it. I won't bore you with them all, but the main thing is, and I'm a deregulation guy, I'm a capitalist through or through. There's no other way to do this. Have to do it like France did and a few other people. We need to cap the resale of tickets at like between 10 and 20%. Otherwise American people are just getting screwed.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

And you just, you're just handing money to the bad actors, to the bots, the scalpers, this, that and the other, and the, the American people. And I told the president, I go, look, this doesn't seem like a top line thing, I get it, but just hear me out. I go, what do people really want after? And this could be in the, this could be number one too. What do people really want after? To be safe and, you know, have a good economy, to be making money, be able to take care of their families. Yeah, they want to have fun. Yeah, they want to have fun. Let's make America fun again. You know what I mean? If we can get this done, you're going to be a hero because people are going to not have to decide whether to come to one of my shows or a family vacation.

[Glenn Beck]

Like, what is it? What is the difference that you see your tickets scalp for? What do your tickets go for? And then what do you see them?

[Kid Rock]

Well, you can't put them for what you want anymore. What does that mean, put them? Like if I think like, you know, like, hey, I'm going to play for $100 ticket for these really good seats and it's going to be 50 bucks, you know, for the other ones, you know, the higher seats, this, that and the other, the bots and scalper is going to eat those all up. And those front ones are going to be anywhere from 500 to 2500 to whatever they can get. They just put them out there, those high ones. You're just. So now you have to do this, what do they call it? Price? Dynamic pricing.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

Where. So you're trying to cut the scalpers down because, hey, let's face it, like I said, I'm a capitalist. I'm not going to be a good guy and sell my tickets for, you know, whatever, 20 bucks and go make the scalpers millions of dollars Right now, if there's no other way to do it, I'm making the money and I'm going to take care of the people I want to take care of.

[Glenn Beck]

Right.

[Kid Rock]

And I've had a million ideas. Can we sell them like Airline tickets. You don't get to resell your airline ticket. You turn it in. You know, if you can't go, maybe, you know, 48 hours before you can turn it back into the system. There's all these different plans. We've been trying to solve this for decades, and literally the quickest way right now is to put a cap on the resale, and it's really bad in sports, but I'm not going to take on those guys yet.

[Glenn Beck]

So what. What is the. Is it because. Or is it just because of the scalpers, or does this have anything to do with. I mean, I remember when Michael Jackson went on tour and he was charging $19 a ticket, remember, for the Victory tour, and everybody was like, nine.

[Kid Rock]

I didn't make that tour, Glenn.

[Glenn Beck]

But it was a big deal because his tickets were $19, and that was outrageous. I think the highest ticket up to that point was maybe 10. They just wanted to sell the albums.

[Kid Rock]

I'm overpaid. We're the first one to say Trump's like, what'd you say? Like, I'm telling you, I'm overpaid.

[Glenn Beck]

Market value, it's.

[Kid Rock]

It's. It's ridiculous. This, this. You know, I've never had to ride around my windows tinted here and there because I've made it on a honest dollar for working man's back. And I'm very proud of that. But at the same time, I'm like, the way the system's set up now, you know, this is why managers who are now have really become record companies, which, by the way, Live Notion, Live Nation owns some of the management companies. They own the buildings, they sell the tickets.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh, yeah.

[Kid Rock]

This, that, and the other is. It's gotten so out of hand. There's this. You know, the managers don't want to solve it because you're making more money than ever. It comes all about this thing. I'm like, there's enough money in here for everybody. There's so much money in this business for. If I book this building, the promoter, the building owners, there's plenty money for them to make. The promoter of the show, there's plenty of them to make. There's plenty of money for us to make as a band. It's all right there. It's just got. Ask anybody who's bought a concert ticket in the last, whatever decade and what, maybe two decades, and they'll tell you it's a fricking fiasco. It's garbage. You get in there now, there is a supply and demand thing that people Gotta understand, if I'm going on tour and there's 300,000 tickets and 700,000 people want to go, certain people can't go. Yeah, but that shouldn't stop people.

[Glenn Beck]

That shouldn't mean you have to pay dynamic pricing. That's fine. Right?

[Kid Rock]

Well, that's. No, the dynamic pricing is you do dynamic pricing to certain levels. Like if your front row is not worth this.

[Glenn Beck]

Right, but I don't do dynamics.

[Kid Rock]

Sell my front row.

[Glenn Beck]

But if you do dynamic pricing and you don't have the bots and the scalpers, then that's right. Right.

[Kid Rock]

Yeah. If you can only. Yeah, then, then it will work. Yeah, you can just. If you can only sell at 10 over what you paid for it. Of the all in pricing, that's the other thing. It's on the bill, or whatever executive order is going to pass is like, you know, you can't get to. You can't buy a hundred dollar ticket. Then you go to checkout, you're like, it's $165. Yeah, what happened?

[Glenn Beck]

Right?

[Kid Rock]

You know, it should all be very transparent.

[Glenn Beck]

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[Kid Rock]

Oh, just as dirty and as evil. It's the most.

[Glenn Beck]

Why do you say it that way?

[Kid Rock]

Oh, it's just full of scoundrels and scumbags. Rip off con artists. I mean, what business? Let's take a record company. What business? Basically, they give you a loan. Now, of course they do promotion and artist development and things like that. When you break it down to brass tacks, kind of giving you a loan and then after that they basically take 80% of everything you make. Like, what business could survive doing that? Now there's a lot of money and there's an argument, you know, I like to argue both sides that, you know, the artists go out and make the money touring where the money's at the gate. That's where the big money is. And you know, the record companies usually don't share in that. They tried two years ago with these 360 deals. They didn't work. But I mean they, they've been, they were charging artists for years. Like when records were out, certain percentage of those records would get broke in transit. Makes sense. So they had a 10 free goods clause, which means they charge an extra 10 because 10 of those records usually get broke. They kept that through digital, have the contracts. I mean, just start there. Look at the black artists when they started, you know, the tales there. Look at the payoffs. You know, if you've ever read any of the books of the payola for radio, the way these award shows work, the Grammys and the Oscars, there's such horseshit.

[Glenn Beck]

But, but the, but you use the word evil and when you said that, I think of P. Diddy. Is that real?

[Kid Rock]

I have no idea. Never got.

[Glenn Beck]

You think it's real?

[Kid Rock]

I think there was some, if I had to take an educated guess, there's some freaky stuff going on. It's freaky stuff. Illegal, no involve children. Screw you. You know, if, if there's, there's certain, you know, I don't know, that's at.

[Glenn Beck]

The, the Epstein thing. I, I don't know if it's.

[Kid Rock]

Yeah. When do we get to see that list.

[Glenn Beck]

Ask Pam. I know, but, you know, you. You look at Epstein, you look at Diddy, and then you go to Pizzagate, and you're like, okay, they didn't have children in the basement of that pizza place. But there's something collectively, I think, in our universal mind that we're like, something's wrong. There are. There's the marketing and selling of children for sex.

[Kid Rock]

That is freaking disgusting. Those people should be lined up and shot, period. There should be no nothing for there. We should go to Medieval Times on that, in my opinion. Pedophiles. No, there's just nothing there. I couldn't. I couldn't do enough evil things to the pedophiles, let's put it that way. But, you know, the other stuff, you know, you see a lot of people in business, this, that, and the other, you know, especially when you're younger, starting out, everything's crazy, you know, I got money and this, that, and the other, and things are wild, you know? But I said from day one, I was like, you guys realize you get more girls if you treat them really nice. It's just kind of a right. Like.

[Glenn Beck]

Right. Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

I don't have to, you know, MIT to figure that out. Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

The. The lifestyle. Did you ever. I mean, I know you did cocaine, but that's not what others have done. Did you live that rock and roll lifestyle? And if so, how did you get out? How did you not?

[Kid Rock]

I did, but I was very balanced. I. I was a single father. I had custody of my son since he was very, very young. I was dropped off on my doorstep at six months and was raising. And then, of course, when I got some money, came back looking for, you know.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

So I pretty much had him the whole time, but had great help with his godmother, my sister, my mother, I mean, just. Just great people. So that really balanced me out. You know, I'd pick my windows and I'd be Mr. Rock Star. But then I had to drive to field trips and, you know, and be dad a lot of time. That really helped me out the most.

[Glenn Beck]

So it's. It's weird. I didn't know that you were Bob Ritchie. No idea. I always think of you. Kid Rock. Never thought Kid Rock was your name.

[Kid Rock]

I would like most people to see.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kid Rock]

I'm trying to sell this American bat, I think. Don't screw it up for me.

[Glenn Beck]

So can we go down that road for a minute, though?

[Kid Rock]

We had to go to court the one time, and, like, these people have to get up There and testify. Like, you know, he's a great guy. This. I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, no. I'm actually making some money with this thing, man.

[Glenn Beck]

So is it. Is it a hard to be one? I mean, are there times when you're like, I'm. I know. Are you always Bob Richie is.

[Kid Rock]

I'm Jekyll and Hyde? A little bit of both. You know, it's. It's. And I'd rather enjoy being it. Sometimes I do that, you know, when I'm screwing with people, just trying to get their panties in a bunch. I'm gonna post something online like, yeah, it's Kid Rock.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

Sometimes I'll point something real poignant. That'll be from Bob Richie.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

Sometimes I'll post from both of them. And I've kind of enjoyed that.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. The video between Kid Rock and Bob Ritchie.

[Kid Rock]

Oh, yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

After president. Yeah. Was elected.

[Kid Rock]

Exactly. That's.

[Glenn Beck]

That's completely two different people. Completely. So was the kid. Was that Kid Rock? Was that.

[Kid Rock]

That was Kid Rock. Like the media had been messing with me for how many years? You know, he's just a washed up this, that and the other. Meanwhile, I'm selling out every show, you know, operating at the highest levels in this business. But, you know, they're trying to create this thing because I love Trump, you know, in any little thing I do. It's like yesterday we got contacted by tmz. Apparently I was at this little redneck bar. Sunday night after playing with the president, we're just stopping by, we had dinner and then we had some drinks after. So let's stop this little redneck bar, you know, just me and my brother. Let's just pop it. There's gonna be nobody in there. Pop in there. Having some fun with a few locals that are in this. And apparently I told a girl she was kind of fat.

[Glenn Beck]

Apparently she was.

[Kid Rock]

But somebody then TMZ contacts, and they're like, you know, like, we're gonna. Somebody got a video. You know these people that can't do nothing but video everything you do. And they're like, Kid Rock called a girl fat. And I'm like. And I asked my brother, he goes, how you can handle it? I go, I only have one question for you. Was she fat? He's like, yeah. I'm like, okay. And I was just being honest. I was like, My brother goes, you were actually trying to help her. He's like, because I'm on this huge health kick. And somehow it came up and I was saying something. She was like, this, that, and the other. And I was like, you are kind of fat. Kind of saying it like that. Like, you could, you know, use my program a little bit. You know, I was trying to. You know, I've been saying this to all my friends. I'm actually getting ready to shoot a video on my health program because a lot of my fans, I think a lot of people in my circle got on board. It really cleaned up a lot of eating habits and started doing things. And I was like, man, you know, they always say you have influence over people.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

Never really realized it like that. To people that were close. So I was actually trying to help, but I was like, I don't give a. About that. Like, the TMZ is like, so Elon showed me this new AI thing. I posted this thing. I was. Did you see that? Yeah. That's just fun.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

I'm like, I'm just trolling people, having fun.

[Glenn Beck]

How much of Elon is a troll? Like, I. I see Grok, and then, you know, what, is it insane or something?

[Kid Rock]

Unhinged.

[Glenn Beck]

Unhinged grock.

[Kid Rock]

It's genius. And the balls to do that at that level. Like, no corporate entity.

[Glenn Beck]

No. It's like, he's 12. He's the smartest, richest man, and there are times he's like, I'm just going to screw it.

[Kid Rock]

I can relate.

[Glenn Beck]

It's so great. Nobody does that. Nobody does that.

[Kid Rock]

I think it's, you know, that's. I get the trolling thing. I get it. But I think it's. It's. It's. I would call it more nonconforming.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

It's like, we're not going to conform to this political correctness. Nobody can take a joke anymore or somebody hurt my feelings, you know, this, that, and the other. It's going on for. I mean, it's ruined movies.

[Glenn Beck]

I know.

[Kid Rock]

It's ruined comedy shows. I'm a huge comedy fan. I'm like, we're not going to hear Stepbrothers again. Or like, the Hangover. I mean, how funny is. The guy pulls up, he's like, paging Dr. Faggot. You're like. You're like, it's hilarious. Like, none of my gay friends got offended.

[Glenn Beck]

Right.

[Kid Rock]

None of them cared.

[Glenn Beck]

Right.

[Kid Rock]

You know what I mean? It's just funny.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. That's a. I think why I like the. The Tesla. What is the truck? Cyber truck.

[Kid Rock]

Yeah, I got one.

[Glenn Beck]

Do you.

[Kid Rock]

I love it.

[Glenn Beck]

I love it. Everybody says it's ugly. And I'm like, that's. I think part of the point, you know, it's completely different.

[Kid Rock]

Generally looks awesome.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh, that's great. That's great. It's just. He's not conforming ever. No, he's just not doing it.

[Kid Rock]

So he's also pushing the boundaries, but in a, in an unbelievable way. He's changing so many things for the better for so many people. I mean, just making lives better, you know, at the end of the day, that's what it is. You mean to tell me you can't have some fun while you're doing that? Yeah, I mean that to me is when people get too serious and take themselves too serious. It's, it's just, it looks miserable.

[Glenn Beck]

How, how concerned are you? Do you. Are you up on the AI, artificial general intelligence or. Yeah, Singularity.

[Kid Rock]

I don't use Google search anymore.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, yeah, Grok.

[Kid Rock]

I am now.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

I mean, I didn't see that on hinge thing till Sunday. I was like, he literally just took all the. I was using chat GPT. He literally just took all their users and they're like, what?

[Glenn Beck]

I know.

[Kid Rock]

So I can actually get the info I want, but I can also have some like complete bonkers fun.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

With this.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

I'm like, right there. He wins. I'm like, and I invested in Tesla a while back and I've. I am not the electric car guy. I was muscle car, this, that, the other. My car collection. I'm like, I get one and I like got that thing and I was like, oh my God, my mind's blown. I told him. I go, I don't think, you know, you created the greatest farm truck ever. I doubt you guys. You and your engineers were thinking of this. I'm like, but as someone who has a farm and likes to hunt and likes the outdoors, I'm like, I don't drive my Can Am anymore. My Polaris. I like, I got a long gun locked in the front. All right, I'm a pistol here. If I see a skunk or a coyote that we trapped or something, I go, I drive by Wild Turkeys or, you know, deer. There'd be a 10 point bucks in there. That thing won't even move. It doesn't know what that car is. It makes no noise. It's just sitting there. I'm like, this is. And it goes anywhere. Goes right up and down my mountains, no problem. I'm like, he goes, yeah, we didn't design it for that.

[Glenn Beck]

What a surprise.

[Kid Rock]

Never know.

[Glenn Beck]

I know, I know technology. I know you have a car collection. What do you have?

[Kid Rock]

I've Sold a few. God, I just sold one. I had a 1930 V16 Cadillac.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh.

[Kid Rock]

One of the first one. The last few left, but it just sat there for years, so I sold that. That's what I love about a lot of Dodges.

[Glenn Beck]

I love. That's what I love about Leno is he. He's. They have to be driven. Drive it, drive it, drive it, drive it.

[Kid Rock]

I don't drive. I like to drink beer, so I'm always being driven.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay, well, that.

[Kid Rock]

That's probably Drive to the dentist.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, that's probably a good thing.

[Kid Rock]

My granddaughters like dance recitals.

[Glenn Beck]

The. I read that you used to say you are socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

[Kid Rock]

Yep.

[Glenn Beck]

Would you still describe yourself as that?

[Kid Rock]

Well, until that transgender stuff came up.

[Glenn Beck]

Right.

[Kid Rock]

I was like, these people are just nuts.

[Glenn Beck]

So you didn't.

[Kid Rock]

It's like, I got gay people in my band. You know, everyone's got gay family members. Something like this. I don't know what to make of it still, but I don't care.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

I really don't care what anybody does. Right. Shove it down her throats. Don't. I don't want teaching my grandchildren this. Like, teach them how to write and do arithmetic and stuff. You know, be socially, you know, conscious and, you know, to a certain degree and, you know, want a better world and treat people right. And then it's just. And then it got too far. I'm like, come on, man. It's just, you know, so I'm still socially liberal. I would say I'm like, live and let live to a certain extent, but then it just got too nuts.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

I mean, you tell me that's not a freaking mental illness. I'm like, you know, all these different things that happen with these shooters and this, that, and the other. There's too many nutty people out there to begin with. Like, you know, Ted Nugent said, and I agree with him, he said that at that dinner, actually, at the White House. He's like, you know, we're talking politics a little bit, and I'm like, I just shut up and eat. Like, I don't. I don't. I'm not really, you know, self educated in this, where I need to be spouting out stuff right now. You know, what should I do about North Korea? I'm like. But Ted said. He goes. We start talking about. He goes, sir, we need to bring the nut houses back. He goes, remember, they got rid of all the nut houses, and those people got nowhere to go now. And now they're Just running around the streets.

[Glenn Beck]

Or in Congress.

[Kid Rock]

Or Congress. True.

[Glenn Beck]

It is.

[Kid Rock]

We saw him sitting on that side.

[Glenn Beck]

It's amazing to me how bat crap crazy everybody is. And then they have switched places with us. I, I used to be, it was.

[Kid Rock]

Not cool to be conservative.

[Glenn Beck]

No, no, it is now. It's starting to be. It's starting to be.

[Kid Rock]

Trump made the party, wouldn't he?

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

You know, it was button up and, you know, this, that and the other, you know, someone who made a career out of, you know, in using four letter words, you know, pushing the envelope and being a little wild, this, that and the other. But still had those values from, you know, instilled in me growing up. Yeah, it's completely changed immensely.

[Glenn Beck]

As you know, he still is buttoned up to some degree. When he has to be, he's buttoned up. Yeah. When he's just a regular guy, he's not buttoned up. And that's, that's what I want out of a president. To some degree. I want. You know, he is so unpredictable. If you don't know him, if you don't. If you don't get it, he is so damn unpredictable that he's just.

[Kid Rock]

Which the best negotiators are. Right.

[Glenn Beck]

He's just running circles around everybody and everybody's like, this is crazy. Yeah. You know why? Because you're playing the game the old way. It's over. It's over.

[Kid Rock]

I've sold more things off that game for years. Like the press just can't because now, now it's point where they have to get clicks and views, you know, to make money and all this stuff. So I just use them for it. I get something to promote, you know, it used to be, okay, we got to go to Europe for this amount of time. We have to spend a week in New York City, we have to go to la, blah, blah, blah. Now I just, you know, like, you know, call Oprah a bad name and say, I got a new record coming out. Everybody knows about it. I'm like, that was easy. Because they're pan. You know, if they would, if they would just use the old thing, just. He'll tire himself out. Just ignore him. Yeah, they can't.

[Glenn Beck]

No, they can't. They can't. They can't. You. You have no problem letting everybody, you know, the politicians especially, they don't want anybody. They want, they want. I am a small town guy. I grew up in a middle class. If I heard Kamala Harris say middle class family one more time, I was gonna hang myself. You're a kind of guy. And I don't, I don't think it's different, but I think politicians would. You're like, I don't care. Yeah, I made a lot of money. Big deal. Right. American dream. But you still have the values. They, I don't think they understand that. It's not the amount of money that you have or anything else that maybe that changes them, but it doesn't have to change you. You can still be the guy who, like Donald Trump, loves people. He just loves them.

[Kid Rock]

Incredible.

[Glenn Beck]

He's. He's got and wants to be loved.

[Kid Rock]

Right. What a knob. What a concept.

[Glenn Beck]

And everything is shattering. Everything that is this bogus plastic has been bogus plastic world. Do we. Do we. What does the world look like at the end of four years?

[Kid Rock]

Hopefully it looks like President J.D. vance. Hopefully. To me, that's what it looks like.

[Glenn Beck]

Do you travel Europe?

[Kid Rock]

I hope we can bring. I really hope we can. I'm actually going to try to unite this country. And I'm starting the end of the month taking Bill Maher to the White House for dinner. This guy's done nothing but talk smack.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

About the president for, since day one. But he's a comedian, too.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

And, you know, I can have conversations with him. You know, don't get into Trump because I'm like, I franking love him.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

It's like, I don't. I'm like, let's talk about other things. We can find common ground. He's actually, you know, more reasonable than a lot of people on the right would think. Oh, I know. I think especially the last maybe four years or whatever. So I said, so I said to him, I was doing his podcast and I said, if I can hook you guys up, this, that and the other, and trust me, there's a lot more people deserving at that table, you know, for dinner. So it's a big deal to me to, you know, bring him there and even have the president be like, yeah, do it. Let's do it. I go, man, what would it say to this country? Let's start at the top where you, you know, very public figures him, television comedian, you president of the free world. You know, we could just break bread, have some laughs, take a picture and be like, hey, you know, we don't agree on everything, but we got along. Does that send, does that start to send a message to people or they just think I'm an idiot.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

You know, does Bill Maher look soft for going, does it. Trump look weak? Like, I'm like, Man, I think we just got to start somewhere, like, there and be like, look, man, we just had dinner. We had some laughs. We have fun. Like, maybe call that family member that you got into it over politics or that person, you know, and at the school that, you know, you don't like to talk to anymore that used to have a coffee with in the morning, maybe just get back with them. Be like, look, man, it's okay. Everybody calm down a little bit.

[Glenn Beck]

Anybody that is not pushing, that is anybody who is saying, don't talk to your family member. That's.

[Kid Rock]

You've heard stories.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. But it's just evil.

[Kid Rock]

Yeah. I mean, one person do it. One person. I can really. Me and Cheryl just got into it over, like, gun control, and we'd had some honest conversations about it and things, and then I was just like, yeah, it's, it's not. I, I, I still love her to death, you know, she's like a sister to me, you know? I know, but it's like, yeah, she's not first call anymore on the dinner list, you know, on the dinner invite.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. That's too bad.

[Kid Rock]

And I'm not, I'm not on hers. I don't believe.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, I would, I would.

[Kid Rock]

But I know we could still be cordial and have some laughs in the room, you know?

[Glenn Beck]

Are you, do you travel to Europe very often?

[Kid Rock]

No.

[Glenn Beck]

Did you see what happened with J.D. vance over in Europe couple weeks ago?

[Kid Rock]

What, a speech. Yeah, I saw a speech. Thought, awesome.

[Glenn Beck]

Awesome, right?

[Kid Rock]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

Did you see the foreign minister of Germany after it was over.

[Kid Rock]

No.

[Glenn Beck]

Openly wept and said, I learned a lot this week after listening to his speech. We no longer have as much as we thought we had in common with the Americans. And I thought, get them out. Yeah. If that's actually what you believe. I don't want to be a NATO. I don't. I don't. Why. I mean, you're on the other end.

[Kid Rock]

Of the red flag. Went up with it. Is crying.

[Glenn Beck]

You're like, yeah. Especially a German.

[Kid Rock]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

Supposed to be tough, stoic, like right now. Like, we don't laugh at anything.

[Glenn Beck]

Right. Right. But we have, do we have stuff in common? Do we have enough in common? Because it seems to me that we're in a.

[Kid Rock]

Well gets drowned out by the media a lot. Yes.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

We all have a ton in common, but, you know, they like to keep us polarizing that media on all sides, you know, to be fair. Yeah, be fair on all sides. A lot more on the left side. But, I mean, everything's become this social media freaking media nightmare, it's just like, it's just. There's too much information.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

I don't. All me and my friends do is send memes to each other and I love that. That's great. I'm like, I don't want to hear about your trip. I don't want to see it on Facebook or, you know, the tweets or whatever. Like, and then we get together and we golf, we have dinner or whatever. We got something to talk about. We can catch up on old times. I was like, don't text me. Happy birthday, Merry Christmas, happy Thanksgiving, happy fourth of July. If it's really that big of a deal, send me a card. Otherwise I'm not worried about it. I was like, I just don't need 300 texts coming in like happy Birthday. I'm like, come on man. We don't. It's just, it's annoying.

[Glenn Beck]

Tell me about the concert coming up this Summer.

[Kid Rock]

I'm doing 19 shows and you know, I've usually been like not, not, not too big on politics in the show, just trying to entertain people. This is the exact opposite. These are MAGA rallies.

[Glenn Beck]

Freely.

[Kid Rock]

Yeah, a thousand percent. I put together a whole new show. I'm only doing 19. I'm doing seven arenas which are going to be a blast. And then I do this rock. The country music festival was just a. No one had ever started a music festival for, for hard working people who love this country.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, like, well, it used to be, I mean, but now it's got this Hank Williams, Leonard Skynyrd. I mean that's, that's, that was for.

[Kid Rock]

Very small towns, middle of fields or you know, public places like these very. I mean, you don't know why these towns are. I know why we did them our first year. Last year I have ownership in that, so I really got to help shape and mold it. And it's literally. I mean, our lighting rig out by the soundboard is across, you know, just some really cool stuff. There's thousands of American flags we put up everywhere. It's just, it's just a. Celebrate America listening to music. And like these people are the greatest people. I don't just say that cuz they're paying money to come to my stuff. I'm not that shallow. But I mean, literally, I've heard this from everybody. You can walk through this rock and roll outlaw country crowd with 30,000 people there. Excuse me. You can walk right through to the bathroom, walk back. No static.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

No fights. I think we had a couple drunk Driving like, it was just this things. Don't we have more problems at my honky tonk? In national. It's a couple thousand people.

[Glenn Beck]

It's, It's. We have that with our audience. We did an event in Washington.

[Kid Rock]

Remember, these people are partying. They're partying hard.

[Glenn Beck]

Right.

[Kid Rock]

They're. They're drinking. They got their camp.

[Glenn Beck]

Right.

[Kid Rock]

They're carrying on. Usually when you add alcohol to any situation, you know somebody's going to get into it. But.

[Glenn Beck]

But it's still. There is something about the American that everybody in the media has forgotten that we generally. I mean, I think.

[Kid Rock]

And we've felt. Forgotten.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, that's why he won in the first place.

[Kid Rock]

Absolutely.

[Glenn Beck]

And I think that's why he's doing so well right now. He's. I've never seen a president who said, I'm writing down everything. Remind me.

[Kid Rock]

I said, campaign trip. And then I'm just going to start not checking them off in priority order.

[Glenn Beck]

Never seen that. Have you ever seen that? No, never seen that.

[Kid Rock]

Talked about that with a million friends, too. Yeah, same thing.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

It's like he's just checking that list off, like.

[Glenn Beck]

And that shows for the first time, a politician who does not forget, he's not using you. He's not coming out and saying, I'm just like you, and I'm going to do these things. And then you get in and you forget it.

[Kid Rock]

You like my shiny ring?

[Glenn Beck]

Right, Right. It's. It's. I've never seen anything like it.

[Kid Rock]

And this is the first guy. This, you know, first administration has started. Like, hey, let's look where our money's being spent. I mean, that is bananas.

[Glenn Beck]

I know.

[Kid Rock]

Especially supporting politicians through the years. This, that, and the other. I'm like, why don't you, mother. Why don't you people look for this? Like, what are you doing? Yeah, like, this is the. Like, it's.

[Glenn Beck]

But I don't know if we could have done it at least as effectively as Musk can do it because of a true. I mean, you know, in three years from now, the AI we have going over the budget. Oh, it's going to be. Yeah, we're going to know everything about the ticketing thing.

[Kid Rock]

You know, I've been doing research for years, have hired attorneys at certain points, you know, people to get info. This, that and the other. Sometimes I always don't give it to you in their yearly reports.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kid Rock]

This, that, and the other. Not now, AI. It's all there.

[Glenn Beck]

You worried about art with AI?

[Kid Rock]

Not really. Do you Know everybody else is.

[Glenn Beck]

There's a group that has tested 500,000 songs and rank them out of the top 10. The top five are AI songs.

[Kid Rock]

Yeah. We better get better as songwriters.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. I mean that's crazy.

[Kid Rock]

Well the way I figured, I actually met with a young man that and had some other prominent musicians and record heads to have an off the record conversation about AI and music. And the app's called Suno and it's bananas because it's pretty dang good. And for writing music for it produces music. See, what Spotify is doing is a lot of their, you know, they have to pay money every time they play one of our songs. They're creating tons of. You put on a, that sounds like beach. A beach playlist that has 100 songs. 20 of those songs might be by some artists you never heard of because AI created it. They don't got to pay anybody.

[Glenn Beck]

Wow.

[Kid Rock]

But are they using our stuff to make it? Yeah. But the way I looked at it is I looked at like Napster when that started and I was like, what's going on? And you know, all the artists were up in arms and the record companies wanted us to get behind. You know they're stealing their pirating music and I'm like, hold on, are they stealing from the record companies? Like stealing from everybody? I'm like, good. I care less. I make all my money live. But now with, with AI, I'm like, so I'm asking this guy and I'm like, so I can give you some acapellas in my vocals and you can model my voice and then you can put it on your system and however many people want to write songs for me with my voice can write them. He's like, yep. I'm like, that's kind of cool. So I could have like a hundred thousand people writing now. There's gonna be some funny ones in there like you know Kid Rock, right. Joe Biden, like I get it. I'll laugh at those. But let's say I got a million people writing songs for me. If one of those person nails it and they come up with this, you know, this life changing song, it's great. I go play it live.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kid Rock]

I'm like, I don't, I'm. I'm not seeing the evil in here yet. You know, it's the record companies and managers get all the artists up in arms about we're not going to stop it. I know that much. You are not going to stop it.

[Glenn Beck]

No.

[Kid Rock]

So it's like let's figure out how we use it as a new tool. The best. Like anything else in life, I can.

[Glenn Beck]

Say to my new Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra, hey, find a keto friendly restaurant nearby and text it to Beth and Steve. And it does without me lifting a finger so I can get in more squats anywhere I can. 1, 2, 3. Will that be cash or credit?

[Kid Rock]

Credit.

[Glenn Beck]

4 Galaxy S25 Ultra. The AI companion that does the heavy lifting. So you can do. You get [e-mail] compatible with select apps. Requires Google Gemini account. Results may vary based on input. Check responses for accuracy. Who is the influence in your life musically? I mean you've worked with almost everybody and you're, you're weird, you're. You, you break all of the rules. You've. Rap.

[Kid Rock]

Isn't that what rock and roll supposed to be?

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, it is, but nobody does that. Nobody does that. So what was your musical influence?

[Kid Rock]

It was everything. I mean the real big ones at the top was, you know, my parents record collection when I was young that was just all great classic rock and you know, not real country, more outlaw country music. Whether it's like I said, the Whalens and things like that, the Eagles and stuff like that, of course Bob Seeger's, you know, religion growing up and still is in my household. So proud to call him a friend. But then when I got into hip hop, that changed everything for me. You know, the early stuff, but it was really like when stuff went mainstream like Run DMC and everything from that era. And then I didn't figure it out until I was older. I was like there's literally been, you know, outside if you want to go back to like Celtic music which created, you know, this. But American music is like basically jazz and blues spawned everything, everything, everything until hip hop came along. And once rap came along it was like that has its fingerprints on every form of music now since then. So we've. I didn't get to witness the birth of the blues or really, you know, the 50s and 60s and stuff, but I got to witness that and to me it kind of lines has a lot of parallels with blues and jazz, like what hip hop's done now. Do I like a lot of the new hip hop? No, I don't. I'm more old school hip hop guy. But that's because I'm old I would assume, right?

[Glenn Beck]

What is the, what are the parallels.

[Kid Rock]

That blues and jazz spawned everything up until hip hop and now hip hop has its fingerprints on everything. I don't care if it's country music, you know, rock and roll music, whatever. There's tinges of hip hop all over it. Just like any of those records. Up until, you know, up until the late 70s or ever when hip hop started, 80s started coming in. They were all had had the touches of jazz and blues on them, whether it was soul music, whether it was rock and roll, whether it was country or whatever.

[Glenn Beck]

So you. But you. Were you into that?

[Kid Rock]

What's that?

[Glenn Beck]

Blues? And I was.

[Kid Rock]

I mean, I would listen to those records just. I would listen to music all the time. But then when hip hop really came, I started more to emulate it, you know, even though I had that rock and roll, we had a piano and there was an old guitar laying around. I would noodle here and there and then started screwed up my mom's aerobics turntable trying to scratch records. So my parents had no clue what I was doing with any of this. You know, in Romeo, Michigan, there was not right.

[Glenn Beck]

Did you. Did you have the talk with your parents or anybody in your family of this isn't really a career? It's. I mean, it's a good little.

[Kid Rock]

My whole life.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kid Rock]

I didn't go to college. I barely made it out of high school. I was so focused on music. Yeah, I was. Well, it was. Can't. Can he just do this as a hobby on the weekends?

[Glenn Beck]

I got the same thing. I got the same thing. I was doing radio when I was 13 years old and I got the speeches.

[Kid Rock]

Thirteen, yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

I got the speeches from my family. And, you know, this is a nice hobby, but, you know, it's probably not going to work out for you. Like.

[Kid Rock]

Well, sometimes the best motivation, is it not exactly right.

[Glenn Beck]

Exactly right. It has been great to talk to you.

[Kid Rock]

Great to talk to you.

[Glenn Beck]

Thank you for. Thanks for having the balls to stand up and just be who you are.

[Kid Rock]

Thank you. I get that compliment a lot and it's one of the best ones. I get that and how wonderful my son is. Those two compliments mean a lot. I love this song. I love this. And this concert was great, but it's like, thanks for having the balls to stand up. It means a lot now, especially where we've. Where we've come to now. It's been a long journey and I have a terrific son and grandchildren.

[Glenn Beck]

Good. Great talking to you.

[Kid Rock]

Thank you.

[Glenn Beck]

Thank you.

[Kid Rock]

God bless.

[Glenn Beck]

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