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Dennis Prager
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Glenn Beck
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Dennis Prager
How am I? That's a very complex question, Clay. If there is no God, then who determines good and evil? Or is there even good and evil?
Glenn Beck
Losing Charlie and then the diminishment of your voice. I know people have said, and I have said it too. Why? Why God? Why would you?
Dennis Prager
Why? Whether or not Candace Owens or Tucker Carlson is an anti Semite is a question I don't even get drawn into.
Glenn Beck
Dennis, my friend, it's so good to see you. So good to see you.
Dennis Prager
It is completely mutual.
Glenn Beck
Yeah. I have to ask, how are you feeling?
Dennis Prager
I can give you a few sentences or a book worth answer. I'm serious about that. I have a new mission in life and that is to help people who have terrible pain in their lives, emotional, psychological or physical, endure it and, and even achieve happiness.
Glenn Beck
I tell you, Dennis, I've heard from friends that they are amazed every day. They would come to your hospital room when you were in the hospital and you would have this great attitude and your attitude was, what choice do I have? I mean, I don't want to be miserable. And I don't know how you do that.
Dennis Prager
I'll tell you how I do it. I'm an extremely rational thinker. The title of my biblical commentary is the Rational Bible. If it doesn't make sense, I don't. I don't believe it. I don't. I reject it. So anyway, I. I realized from day one I had only three choices. Death, depression and or persevere. That's it really. There is no fourth alternative. So I thought about that and I don't want to die. And I don't want to be depressed. So I have to persevere. And I will say this in my book on happiness. Happiness is a serious problem. I have no vindicated everything I wrote and now with much greater credibility because. Having endured being paralyzed from the shoulders down, every person with terrible pain in their lives can take what I say very seriously. You
Glenn Beck
have always been an icon and a hero of mine, Dennis, and you have just grown in my eyes over the last year watching you even to be a bigger giant. And thank you for your. Your knowledge and your example for all the years.
Dennis Prager
Well, I want everybody to know that I was incredibly honored and grateful that you wrote the afterword for my book coming out this week, if There is no God, the battle over who defines good and evil. That's the book and it is.
Glenn Beck
I don't mean to cut you off. It is just such a great book. You can tell you are the tree to Charlie's apple. It's this great conversation between you and students. So open, so honest. And I want to get into some of the things you talked about. But one of the things I think we should start with is what is God?
Dennis Prager
Well, there are a million answers to that question. God is the only absolute in the universe of relativity. That's how I put it when I was in England studying in my junior year and my roommate, an English kid like me, was a physics major, a physics major. And he thought that belief in God is nonsense. So Dennis, what is God? And I said, God is the only absolute in the universe of relativity. And his response was awesome. He said, oh, He didn't, he didn't expect that a guy who believed in God could even utter a multi syllabic word, let alone give him an answer like that. But anyway, but that is the truth, that it's if there is no God, which is the name of the book, if there is no God, then who determines good and evil? Or is there even good and evil? There isn't good and evil. There are just opinions about it. I've been asking for 50 years. I have been asking high school and college students who have a dog if they would save their dog that they love or a stranger first, if both were drowning in virtually every instance, across ethnic groups, across racial groups, across religious groups, even the same exact answers. One third the stranger, one third the dog, and one third didn't know. So 2/3 of Americans, for 50 years, I could pretty positively say two thirds of Americans would not save the stranger. And that's what set me off on this. The reason I would save the stranger before the dogs I own and love is because that is the biblical demand. Because we are created in the image of God and animals are not. Otherwise I would vote along with the student and I would think that hey, I love my dog, I have a relationship with him and I have no relationship with the stranger. So that's what set me off in this direction.
Glenn Beck
So I love this part of the book because they have so many follow up questions and you're so good at the follow up and having them think it through.
Dennis Prager
But
Glenn Beck
that's where if you don't have the understanding that the one thing we all have in common is we are all made in the image of God. So we are all unique and we're all related to one another. It's, it's how you get down to exterminations of people. I mean you goes from that little pond story with the dog and the human into eugenics and everything else, does it not?
Dennis Prager
Absolutely. This, this applies to everything. When you understand that everyone is created in God's image doesn't mean people are basically good by the way. Which is a very important point in the book and in my philosophy of life and in the Judeo Christian outlook. By the way doesn't believe that people are basically good. Only the secular enlightenment in France posited that people are basically good. It's a brand new idea in the history of idea. So that's.
Glenn Beck
Why does that matter?
Dennis Prager
Well, why does it matter whether we're basically good or not?
Glenn Beck
If the belief is that we're basically good or we're not.
Dennis Prager
Yeah, right. Oh, it's unbelievably important. For example, if you believe people are basically good, then you will think as a parent you don't have to raise children to, to be good, you just have to give kids love. But if all you give is your kid love, you will have a well loved barbarian as a child. It's, we're seeing that now the, the, the pro, the product of this thinking is now a lot of these fairly, Fairly loved and fairly and, and highly educated. We have a lot of these well funded or well loved barbarian barbarians in our society today. I'll give you another consequence, incredibly important one, the belief, the widespread belief especially among the educated that it's the environment, not the human that is responsible. So because we're basically good, we can blame the person, we can blame something else. It's most obvious with guns. We blame the guns, we don't blame the user of the gun. Yeah, it's the ramifications of the belief that people are basically good, the deleterious consequences are tremendous.
Glenn Beck
We just had the shooting up in Canada and then one. Where was that? One in Maine. Right. Of the trans people shooters. Rhode Island. The trans shooters. And everybody is saying, it's the gun, it's the gun. And, you know, being trans had nothing to do with it. And I think, Dennis, we are. We are not considering mental health. We are ignoring people who need mental help. And we're only making it worse because I think of what you're saying. Everybody is good. Just because they're different, it doesn't mean that they're, you know, mentally ill or whatever. Well, sometimes it does, doesn't it?
Dennis Prager
Well, obviously that is true. Sometimes they are. They are not blamed. Obviously. Let me just say, by the way, as a. The stepfather, my wife's oldest son, who is 42 now, is autistic and lives and lives with us because he can't live on his own. He knows right and wrong better than most Harvard graduates. This notion that the mentally ill do not know that murder is wrong, I don't accept that. So even that's the case of blaming something else. Sure, we need more mental health programs, but again, Their values are as important as the values of the non mentally ill.
Glenn Beck
So how do you have values? How do you know it's wrong? If you've never been taught anything, do you. Are you born with this?
Dennis Prager
That's right. That's the point. You, you don't know right or wrong. You only have opinions. I had Jewish kids 50 years ago. When I was their age, I would have. Or a little older than them, I would have them saying that only in their view. In their opinion, were the Nazis evil but right? You can't really say they were evil because it's an opinion.
Glenn Beck
That's exactly where we are right now.
Dennis Prager
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
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Dennis Prager
you. The, the biggest question is, will it work? And is there moral justification for doing it? Tucker Carlson said years ago that anyone who defended the Hiroshima bombing is evil. Is evil. I wrote a column, this is well before October 7th. I wrote a column against Tucker Carlson's worldview. But that's his view. It's a perfect example of the, the opinion view.
Glenn Beck
And, and so your opinion would be if, because that saved more lives than it took and it ended the war, it was justified.
Dennis Prager
That's exactly right, yes.
Glenn Beck
I just have to tell you, Dennis, your voice is so important. This book is so good, so important. And I, I'm not one to question God because I tried that and it doesn't really work. I, I, I, I've, I've learned over the years to accept his will and know that it's putting me in the place that I need to be in. But I have to tell you, losing, losing Charlie and then the diminishment of your voice, I know people have said, and I have said it too. Why, why God? Why would you.
Dennis Prager
Why? Well, I have an answer to that. And I wrote it decades before Charlie and decades before my accident of November 12, 2024. I wrote it then. If you, you have to deal with the problem of tragedy and evil before it affects you, I'll give you a great Example, a woman once called my radio show and she began as follows. Dennis, I have always disagreed with you about capital punishment. I was against it, and you were adamantly for it, but I've changed. And I said, gee, why is that? And she said, because my brother was murdered. And of course, I offered her condolences. But that's not all I offered. I offered a critique. And I said, so when other people's brothers were murdered, that didn't register in your thinking about God? It took a tragedy in your life. What people need to do is to confront these things before it befalls them. Almost everybody will have tragedy in their lives. Alienated children, cancer, it's endless. And of course, hatred. Or I should say. Yeah, go ahead.
Glenn Beck
This is where in the. That's the age of feeling instead of the age of reason. Correct?
Dennis Prager
Absolutely. And it's the age. Let's be candid, it is the age of secularism. These are ideas that were brought forth by the Enlightenment, oddly enough, that people are basically good. But you're absolutely right about. I just want to say, you're absolutely right that it's also a matter of reason versus emotion.
Glenn Beck
So what's the Enlightenment? I've heard people make this case now. Was the Enlightenment an error, a mistake, a bad thing?
Dennis Prager
The Enlightenment. Was a good thing with regard to people having to be rational, but it really inaugurated a period in Western life of irrationality. It was. Was it Descartes? No, it wasn't Descartes. It was Rousseau. No, it wasn't Rousseau. One of. Anyway, one of the great. One of the great Enlightenment thinkers said, when people are. Are forced to have irrational views, it is because. Oh, yeah, when people have irrational views, they will develop any. I don't remember it exactly, but they will adopt evil views. When people start to think irrationally, bad things happen. And that's what.
Glenn Beck
It's almost Nietzsche's warning. For a society that doesn't. That. That doesn't believe in God, they'll believe anything.
Dennis Prager
Oh, well, yeah, the greatest quote on that, it's attributed to. To Chesterfield Chesterton. Yeah. Chesterfield was a cigarette
Glenn Beck
and a couch might say.
Dennis Prager
Yeah. Oh, I never thought of that. And the, the quote, it's not, it's not actually from him, but it's. It's attributed to him. And that is when people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing. They believe in anything.
Glenn Beck
Yes. Let me, Let me take to. To back to the book. And, and you were just talking about capital punishment. Capital punishment. Can an unjust society deliver justice in capital punishment?
Dennis Prager
Yet can, but only if it doesn't provide either witnesses or DNA. I mean, that's why the, the Bible in, in Exodus says that the person shall be put to death, the murderer, by the accounts of two witnesses. Otherwise.
Glenn Beck
Right.
Dennis Prager
That we today have witnesses. We have witnesses in the chemistry lab. So that's, that's the way it works. And it, and it does work.
Glenn Beck
So one of the things you talk about in the book, if there is no God, let's take the capital punishment. You say the scriptures tell us. How can you rely on scriptures? How do you know Scriptures are the word of God? If it was written by men who are flawed and are not good, not born good.
Dennis Prager
Well, you're right. If exactly, if it was written by human beings who are flawed, then you get rid of it. Look, I've written four or five volumes on the first five books of the Bible, what Jews call the Torah. Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy. And I make the point regularly that this or that shows the divine origin of the Torah. I'll give one example. If people wrote the Torah, and for that matter, for that matter, the prophets, would Jews have written such a critical, such a critique of their own people? That is one of the best arguments I have that Jews didn't write, was given to Jews. I mean, the Jews come out pretty awful in their own.
Glenn Beck
It's almost like they had Marxists writing it, their own history.
Dennis Prager
Well, it's, there's no other example of a group writing its own history and depicting its people as so flawed as the, the Hebrew Bible. That's, I, I'll give you another argument. The most incredible thing of all the laws in the, in the Torah, and that's where all the laws come from in Deuteronomy, is that if a man goes a more or less paraphrasing the law, a man goes out to battle and he wants a woman. Now we know how ubiquitous rape in times of warfare is, right? I mean, a million German women, they say, were raped and the Islamic conquests allow them to marry a woman for a day, which is of course a rape.
Glenn Beck
Right? Right.
Dennis Prager
So there is this law. Man goes out in battle and fancies a woman. This is what he has to do. He has to bring her to his home. And she, she mourns her parents for 30 days. She mourns her family for 30 days. She is not to be made privy. She is to wear the sackcloth of people who are mourning. And then it can't touch her for 30 days. Then if he still wants her after 30 days of her crying. He then can only have her sexually if he marries her. I mean, it's hard to believe that men would have written this 3200 years ago.
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Dennis Prager
Glenn, God bless you for asking that question. I intend to write a major piece on that issue. Good. The There is no Christianity. There is no Christ without the. The Judeo. Jesus was a Jew. And as I tell my Christian friends, Jesus never read the New Testament. Jesus was a Jew. The Gospel writers were Jews. The apostles were Jews. Paul was a Jew. I mean, all the ideas that Christians. All the ideas that Christians use to validate their faith are based on the Jewish Bible.
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Dennis Prager
There is no. So there's no Christian without Judeo. And the Judeo would not be known in the world without the Christian. The reason people know about the ten Commandments all over the world is because Christians publicized it. We need each other tremendously. And I believe there's a divine role for both. So I just want to say, if somebody wants to drop the Judeo, they are untrustworthy. As a theological thinker.
Glenn Beck
Well, we've seen it happen before in history. Not any good times, you know, Dennis, I said, when Charlie died, you know, every. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. I think, except for this. I think when Charlie was killed, that was. That was evil striking and trying to silence good. And I think for the first time in my life, because I went to the funeral, what I expected and worried about would happen, the opposite happened. I expected that we might kind of drift or we might get angry or whatever. And there was an explosion of good all over the world. And when I went to his funeral, Dennis, I've never felt anything like it. It was like God was there. And when people were talking about politics, it would withdraw. It was like an ocean. And then they talk about God and it would come back in, and you could feel the spirit moving. It was an amazing thing. Then all of a sudden, we start to get from honestly, some people that we know and have liked and everything else, we start getting this intense hatred for Jews. And in a shocking way, and I've explained it, at least to myself, and I would love to hear you explain, I feel like there is a equal and opposite reaction to every action. So God stepped in after Charlie, but then evil stepped in just as hard. And I feel like we are, for the first time in my life, actually watching the heavenly spheres appear and play some things out and use us as sometimes puppets in a way. We're watching good and evil for the first time at an epic scale. What do you think of that?
Dennis Prager
Well, you're asking the $64,000. You're asking the $64,000 question. That's clear. Part of the answer is that. There's a famous Jewish saying from one of the greatest rabbis in Jewish history that the Torah, and this is an ultra Orthodox rabbi. The Torah is like. The Torah is like rain. When rain falls, it brings forth beautiful flowers and poisonous weeds. That's a very important point. Christians put it that the devil quote scripture, right? Or can quote scripture, Judeo. Christian religions do not produce. Do not necessarily produce good people. You. Yeah, you. You have to emphasize that God wants you to be good. As Micah puts it. The prophet Micah, in the name of God, has God not told you all that he demands from you? That's all that he demands from you. Be righteous, love, justice, and walk humbly with your God. God demands, first and foremost that we be good. And if that is not taught you're not going to get a lot of good. And you know when Candace Owens describes only one country on earth as demonic and it's the one Jewish country on earth, whatever label you assign to it, it's the opposite of John Adams. John Adams said the, I'm paraphrasing. All the good that Western civilization has brought forth was thanks to the Hebrews. And that's what people, that's what Christians who were true to Christianity believe and advocate. That's why it's Judeo Christian. To get back to that point. But there is a strain of Christendom that is anti Semitic. And whether or not Candace Owens or Tucker Carlson is an antisemite is a question I don't even get drawn into. All I can say is that what they're saying is anti Semitic when the only country in the world that you condemn in such terms is the one Jewish country in the world. When you think about it, why was it 600,000 Muslims were killed in the Syrian civil war by the Assad regime? Not a word. Not a word. Nobody even knows about it. And you know why? Because it was Muslims who were killing those Muslims. It wasn't Jews. The only, the only protests about killings are when Jews do it on any national scale. It's. So call it what you want. It's certainly not philosemitic. It's certainly not pro Jewish.
Glenn Beck
With everything you're going through, Dennis, all the pain, all the, everything, all the. I mean, what it has taken for you to sit and do this interview. You dictated the last portion, the good portion of this book, while in this condition, worse than you are now. There must be something that you want everyone to hear. If you could summarize it in one answer. What is the key to if they're, if there is no God, what is the one thing that hurt you and push.
Dennis Prager
Yeah. Then good and evil don't exist. They are merely opinions. That's the takeaway. Now the book is constant challenges over over 50 years. Made against me by audiences and especially by young people, meaning high school and college age. So every argument I could think of against my assertion is presented and answered in the in if there is no God.
Glenn Beck
Dennis, it is great to see you. I love you, my friend, and we pray for you and we'll continue to do so. It's good to see you up and speaking.
Dennis Prager
Well, you can imagine on my end if you'd have told, told me the, the day after I regained consciousness after my fall that I'd be doing an interview with Glenn Beck. Not Only an interview, but. But a video interview. I would have thought you were smoking some very potent weed, by the way. I will say it's very interesting. Every doctor who has commented on my condition, not one of whom was particularly religious, described my ability to speak as miraculous. They all use the word miracle or miraculous because I didn't even register on the test of the phrenic nerve, the nerve that goes from the brain to the diaphragm and enables people to talk, among other things. I didn't and I didn't register. And here I am having an interview with you. And that I've had no cognitive consequence is also part of the miracle. So I tend to focus on the miraculous, not on the loss.
Glenn Beck
I love you, Dennis. Thank you.
Dennis Prager
The love is mutual. And I just ask your many, many listeners and viewers to get if there is no God, it could be pre ordered at Amazon and. You will also get the benefit of Glenn Beck's afterward.
Glenn Beck
Well, it is a really important book and I do hope people read it. I read it and it is fabulous, Dennis. It's really good. Thank you so much. What a different interview. You know when, when Don Imus was at the end of his life and he was in the hospital and he had tubes and everything else running into him, he sent me a picture of him in the hospital looking just horrible. And the only thing the text said, this is one of the last texts I got from him. The only thing it said was, at least I'm not fat like you, so it's nice to. It's nice to have a conversation and
Dennis Prager
I've lost 40 pounds. I know.
Glenn Beck
You look good. You actually look really good.
Dennis Prager
Yeah, well, God bless you, my friend.
Glenn Beck
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Dennis Prager
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Ep 280 | Dennis Prager Defies Paralysis to Get THIS Message Out
Date: February 28, 2026
Host: Glenn Beck
Guest: Dennis Prager
This episode features a profound discussion with Dennis Prager, who, despite severe physical paralysis, is determined to share his latest work and core beliefs about faith, morality, suffering, and the fate of Western civilization. Glenn Beck and Dennis Prager delve deeply into the philosophical and spiritual foundations that shape notions of good, evil, and societal health in today's America, using Prager’s book, If There Is No God: The Battle Over Who Defines Good and Evil, as a jumping-off point. The conversation is laced with personal struggles, memorable stories, and sharp critiques of secular trends in modern culture.
| Timestamp | Topic | |---------------|--------------------------------------------------------| | 01:50 | Prager's philosophy on enduring suffering | | 06:01 | What is God? The basis of morality | | 08:41 | The biblical command to value human life | | 12:01 | Human nature: Are people basically good? | | 15:57 | Are right and wrong innate? | | 20:26 | Coping with personal tragedy and evil | | 23:48 | The Enlightenment’s legacy | | 25:53 | The danger of believing in “anything” without God | | 26:46 | Can society justly apply capital punishment? | | 28:11 | How Scripture’s flaws suggest its divine source | | 34:21 | Importance of Judeo-Christian foundation | | 41:42 | Unique focus on Israel and antisemitism | | 44:10 | If there is no God, good and evil are “merely opinions”| | 45:35 | Prager’s medical “miracle” |
This episode offers a stirring testament to Dennis Prager’s resilience, intellectual depth, and unwavering conviction that the ultimate battle of our era is over the very meaning of good, evil, and truth. Listeners are encouraged to reflect on the crucial role of faith, rationality, and the Judeo-Christian tradition in shaping both personal character and the fate of Western society.
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Prager’s book, If There Is No God, is available for preorder, with an afterword by Glenn Beck. The episode urges all listeners to consider its urgent message as a guide in turbulent cultural times.