Ep 283 | URGENT RELEASE: He Says Islam DESTROYED the UK. Is America Next? | Tommy Robinson | The Glenn Beck Podcast

Summary

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The Glenn Beck Program | Ep 283

URGENT RELEASE: He Says Islam DESTROYED the UK. Is America Next?

Guest: Tommy Robinson
Date: March 18, 2026

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Overview

In this urgent and polarizing episode, Glenn Beck sits down with controversial British activist and journalist Tommy Robinson. The conversation delves deeply into Robinson's personal history, his founding of the English Defence League (EDL), his experiences with authorities and the media, and his warnings to America about what he claims is an existential threat from Islamism, unchecked immigration, and political correctness.

The core theme is Robinson’s claim that Islam has undermined and “destroyed” British culture and public safety, and that the US is on a similar path unless it takes urgent action. The episode covers his activism, imprisonment, battles with the media, and sweeping criticisms of Western political and social elites.

The tone is urgent, combative, and unapologetically critical of mainstream institutions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tommy Robinson’s Origin Story

• Life Before Activism
  Robinson describes a normal upbringing (01:48)—aeronautical engineer, entrepreneur, property owner, family man—before entering activism.
• Turning Point:
  His activism began with protest movements against Islamist organizations in his hometown of Luton, where he recounts the dramatic increase in mosques and radicalization (02:19).

  "When I was born in 1982, there was one mosque. There's now 45...I've seen the difference. I've seen the problems..."
  (Tommy Robinson, 02:25)

2. Luton as Epicenter: Claiming a Microcosm of UK Problems

• Narrates Luton’s development into a center of radical Islamist activity, mentioning terrorism, grooming gangs, and a failure of police and political intervention (03:36–05:08).

3. English Defence League (EDL) & Protest Culture

• Beginnings:
  Outlines the early demonstrations—"Ban the Luton Taliban"—and football hooligan milieu as a base for resistance (05:08–08:02).
• Consequences:
  His real name, Stephen Lennon, was targeted by gangs; police and media branded him racist, but he claims it's a result of speaking out about local crime (08:02–12:32).

4. Disillusionment with Media and Political Elites

• Both Robinson and Beck describe their initial faith that exposing evidence would provoke honest inquiry but claim the reality is suppression and state/media attacks (12:32–16:47).
• Robinson recalls naïvely approaching left-wing media, being labeled racist despite his multi-ethnic friendships, and encountering a coordinated effort to silence dissent (13:53–16:47).

5. State Harassment, Imprisonment, and “Lawfare”

• Describes multiple police raids, frozen bank accounts, and eventual imprisonment—not for direct political action but financial charges he claims were trumped up to silence him (16:47–20:19).

  "They weaponized terrorism legislation where they didn't need a crime, they came in looking for a crime."
  (Tommy Robinson, 16:48)

6. The Rotherham “Rape Gangs” & Broader Scandal (21:30–41:14)

• Robinson lays out the “cover-up” claims of mass exploitation of English girls by Muslim men, and alleges officials and police risked nothing to avoid “upsetting” communities.
• Claims Labour Party politicians not only protected perpetrators but even testified on their behalf.

  "These aren’t Muslim rape gangs. They’re Labour's Muslim rape gangs. They're bought in by the Labour Party. They've been protected by the Labour Party."
  (Tommy Robinson, 31:26)

• Details his investigations in towns like Telford: statistics, police refusal to act, and authorities continually blocking statutory inquiries (31:21–41:14).

7. Systemic Accusations: Immigration as ‘Importing Voters’

• Argues mass immigration is not a “mistake” but a deliberate strategy to gain political power by importing loyal new voters, both in Europe and the US (23:04–28:45).

  "They want people relying on the state. The left care about power and don't care where the power comes from."
  (Tommy Robinson, 26:29)

8. Parallels to America & Warnings

• Claims America is following the same path as Britain and Europe, warning of future demographic and security crises, including “Islamic states with nuclear missiles” (21:30, 29:08).
• Suggests Britain is a “failed state” and only a political/cultural renaissance would prevent the US from a similar fate (29:56–30:59).

9. Media, Censorship, and the Power of Social Platforms

• Explains how state and media collusion led to deplatforming, demonization, and the erasure of dissenting voices—until Elon Musk’s acquisition of X (formerly Twitter) (55:20–56:01).

  "None of that would have happened without Elon Musk buying social media and giving us back a chance."
  (Tommy Robinson, 55:55)

• Describes techniques ranging from mass social media bans to being erased from search results.

10. Journalism, Citizen Media, and Government Attacks

• Narrates his move into journalism, with mentorship from Ezra Levant, documenting grooming gangs and exposing the BBC’s methods with a sting operation ("Panadrama" documentary) (61:16–67:49).
• Alleges systemic corruption, lack of accountability, and judicial manipulation (no jury trials in his cases).

11. Identity, Culture, and the Path Forward

• Advocates for a “United Kingdom Movement” to defend British culture and identity based on Judeo-Christian roots, opposition to LGBTQ+ education for children, mass immigration, Islam, and for free speech (77:23–78:37).

12. Hope, Resistance, and the Power of American Leadership

• Expresses cautious optimism due to the renewed activism enabled by platforms like X and international inspiration, particularly from Donald Trump and Elon Musk (56:01–56:32, 81:05).

  "If you didn't vote for Donald Trump, I don't think any of us would have hope...when Trump had those four years, all these things had to happen..."
  (Tommy Robinson, 81:05)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Police and Government Inaction

  "They literally become so scared...They just don't. They'd never said no to the Islamic community. They don't get a no for anything. Everything's a yes."
  (Tommy Robinson, 11:54)

• On Media “Smears”

  "We done things at the start. We burnt Nazi flags...Luton is one of the most diverse towns...Luton has got a divide through religious, not race."
  (Tommy Robinson, 13:53)

• On Prosecution and Imprisonment

  "They weaponized terrorism legislation...for four years they froze my assets..."
  (Tommy Robinson, 16:48)

• On the Rape Gangs Scandal & Political Cover-up

  "They're not Muslim rape gangs, they're Labour's Muslim rape gangs. They're bought in by the Labour Party. They've been protected by the Labour Party."
  (Tommy Robinson, 31:26)

• Robinson’s Five Points for the Movement

  "Judeo Christian culture...against the LGBTQ indoctrination of children...against mass immigration...against Islam...for free speech."
  (Tommy Robinson, 78:37)

• On Hope and International Solidarity

  "Thank you to America. Because if you didn't vote for Donald Trump, I don't think any of us would have hope."
  (Tommy Robinson, 81:05)

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Key Timestamps

• 01:21: Robinson's origin story—becoming an activist
• 05:08–07:15: First protests, community response in Luton
• 12:32–16:47: Disillusionment with media and government
• 16:47–20:19: State prosecution & financial/legal attacks
• 21:30–41:14: Grooming gangs, political cover-up, Labour Party allegations
• 23:04–28:45: Immigration as political strategy
• 29:08–30:59: “Failed state” warnings for UK and US
• 41:14–46:18: Blocked inquiries, lack of statutory powers, public anger
• 49:55–56:01: Islam vs. Islamism, US historical context, social media censorship
• 56:32–59:16: Free speech comparisons UK vs. US
• 61:16–67:49: Investigative journalism, Panorama sting
• 77:16–78:37: UK Movement founding principles
• 81:00–82:45: American influence, optimism, gratitude

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Conclusion

This episode draws a sweeping, uncompromising portrait of Tommy Robinson’s life as an activist, his crusade against what he calls the destructive influence of radical Islam in Britain, and his critique of Western politics, media, and judicial systems. Robinson positions the fight as not only national but civilizational, tying European developments to looming American challenges. The conversation is driven by a palpable urgency and warning, with undercurrents of hope derived from renewed grassroots mobilization and solidarity with U.S. conservative figures.

The episode is highly polemical, intended for listeners already sympathetic to Robinson’s worldview or keenly interested in the most hardline voices warning about immigration and Islam in the West.

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Transcript

[Tommy Robinson]

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[Glenn Beck]

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[Tommy Robinson]

You know the phrase Islam is religion of peace. It was never said in history to George W. Bush.

[Glenn Beck]

These will soon be Islamic states with nuclear missiles.

[Tommy Robinson]

I believe I'm meant to be doing this. I don't believe I have a choice. The figures out of Afghanistan show 99%. Once you real Pakistan, upwards of 80%. Iraq 65%.

[Glenn Beck]

Tommy, for anybody who doesn't know who you are, tell me what you did before you became Tommy Robinson.

[Tommy Robinson]

I lived a normal life doing what I was. I left school, I qualified as an aeronautical engineer for Britannia Airways, which has now become tui. Then I stopped that and I set up a plumbing business. I had a solarium shop and I got into property. I'd say so before I become Tommy Robinson, I had seven properties, two successful companies and a young family.

[Glenn Beck]

So you were a serial entrepreneur?

[Tommy Robinson]

Yeah, I was on my way. I wonder where. I always say I had seven properties at that point. Wonder where I'd be if I didn't open my mouth.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. And what did you open your mouth? What was the first thing you said that got you in trouble.

[Tommy Robinson]

I started. I started a protest movement against a terrorist organization in my hometown, which is what started it. There was a soldiers homecoming parade in 2009. Prior to that, back in 2004, was the first ever demonstration I'd organized when I was 21. And I organized a demonstration called ban the loot and Taliban. And it was because anwardine, they're now a prescribed terrorist organization. Their head office was in my town. So my town, Luton. When I was born in 1982, there was one mosque. There's now 45. We've got a 45, 50 Muslim population. I've seen the difference. I've seen the problems. The fertilizer bomb plot, Luton. The 77 launch pad for the bomb plot, Luton. The Stockholm bomber who suicide attack, Luton. Another suicide attack in Iraq, Luton. The territorial army bomb plot, Luton. I could carry on the limousine bomb plot, Luton. So entire ISIS families went to fight for isis. Luton Kids I up with, all in jail for being part of isis. So I've seen it. And that's. And remember, Luton's only got 200,000 population. And so you're talking 100,000 Muslims. This has all come from my hometown.

[Glenn Beck]

Jeez.

[Tommy Robinson]

So I've watched it all.

[Glenn Beck]

So then you started the English defense League.

[Tommy Robinson]

English defense league. So first of 2004, I organized my first protest, which was called ban the loot and Taliban. When I thought you could just do this. And I made leaflets and the leaflet ended up on the front page of my local newspaper. And I gave a presentation at Oxford University where I went back into the library just to prove some points. I went back into the library and I went back through the old newspapers and got the newspaper from 2004. And the front page was my leaflet. And I read that leaflet at Oxford, and it said, whites and blacks are being religiously and racially targeted in this town. No one's stopping it. The police are not. Not doing anything about it. It made the point that if we know that these shops and these businesses within the Islamic community are using drugs to get young children hooked on drugs, to prostitute them in paedophilic gangs. This is now called Groo. Yeah. I said, why are the police not doing anything about it? And I had prior knowledge that because I. It happened to my cousin. She was a victim. She woke up naked with groups of Muslim men raping her. She's 13, 14 years old. The police went, the family went to the police. Their response, she's a drug addict. She's A drug addict because I got her into a position on drugs as a child. They've took her. But I knew so many girls growing up with. They're just taken, taken from their families and the police. And the response, which I didn't realize was a nationwide problem. I'd seen all these problems in Luton. I organized this first demonst. And I organized it in response to. Do you remember the Besnam school massacre? Oh yeah. So many people that everyone has a moment that woke them up. That was my moment.

[Glenn Beck]

That was one for me too.

[Tommy Robinson]

And for me it was, it was the fact that. So anyone who doesn't children were in a school. Jihadists come and took over the school. The parents are outside the school. I can still see the images every time I talk about this. And they start butchering their children in the school. And the parents are on their knees screaming, crying. They can't do anything because their kids are getting mask in school. For me when I saw that I thought, but that isn't one, that isn't one crazy man. There's a large group of these who share the thought that this is they can do this. What makes them do that? So then I started looking and that's when I come across Almajradin, who had now prescribed 60% of British Muslims in jail for terrorism. Ex members of this group. This group's head office was in my town that Luton was named by the CIA as the epicenter for terrorist activities in Europe. So I grew up learning and I looked into this group and when I started looking into them, I found a video of them, their members, their second in command, his name safely Islam translates as sword of Islam. And they were sitting in a chicken shop in my town and they were saying that a just an attack like this on a British school would be justified. That's when I organized my first protest. That's when I saw, I thought, who the hell is this? And I was young, full of testosterone, a young English lad. And I just. In my mind I thought they can't be doing this. So I went, I started looking at the group and I went to where they stand every Saturday in our town center where they were openly calling for jihad, openly recruiting to send people to fight against our forces and your forces in Afghanistan, in Iraq at the time. And I went up to the police officer there and said, how, how are these lot doing this? What's going on? She said, it's free speech. So I said, okay, let's see if it's free speech next week. And then the next Week we turned up 200 men, which was my first ever protest, which is, until I say 200 men. I. I gravitated towards a football culture in the UK as a youngster. So on a Saturday, we'd get together, all young, young English men, and we'd go to football. And I guess our football group was a bit of resistance to the terrorism and the jihad and the rape gangs in the town. We'd come together as young men and we didn't want to tolerate it. And then. But the response from that, football, you

[Glenn Beck]

recall football hooligans, I don't even know what that is. But football in America is different than soccer. The soccer crowd can get like a hockey game could break out at any time.

[Tommy Robinson]

So there's a history in Luton of groups of men elevated towards each football club. And then on a Saturday, they'd fight each other. I'm 43 years old now, so I'm a different man than I was when I was younger as a youngster. So I say it's part of the culture. My family members I looked up to, men I looked up to were part of this scene. But it's not so people, because it sounds. It sounds moronic.

[Glenn Beck]

A lot of stuff we do when we're young men is moronic, but it's not.

[Tommy Robinson]

It's not men turned up with weapons to fight each other, Right. It's men would punch, have a fight, and then they shake hands after.

[Glenn Beck]

Right?

[Tommy Robinson]

Okay. They'd have a level of respect for each other. It wouldn't be 10 men attacking one man. It says, meet in the side of the street, have a punch up, and then we will go and have a beer. I guess I think it's tribalism. Okay, Right. But. So I've done that. And the response I received from that first demonstration, when I used my real name, Stephen Lennon is my real name, was every Pakistani gang, I named the gang. So in my first leaflet, I named a gang called the Gambinos. Not very original on their part, but that's a Pakistani mafia mob that's in my town. They control the drugs, the heroin, finance the terrorism. So 2004, I, I, in my leaflet, I named them, I called them out, and the response was I was a target for all of them after that. So, and, and three years later, the national newspapers and I showed this at Oxford University. My only crime is being ahead of the game, ahead of the curve. Because 2007 or 2008, national newspapers, the Daily Mirror, the Trinity Group, they run a headline and it said, Chemical jihad launched by gangs. And what they said is back then is that the, the drug gangs are using heroin to destroy their British communities and then they're using the money from it to fund the drug, the terrorism. Yeah. So this is what I said in my leaflet, right. Three years earlier, just as a young lad from Luton. I'd seen it, observed it. I knew the gang members, I grew up with them, I knew what they're up to. I knew the bad mosques, I knew the good mosques. So I, I had a life experience in this and I spoke about it. And then that's 2004. From that point, I was a target for all the gangs. If I, if I went out in Luton town center or on a night out, I'd go out in a group of 20 men. Football, football lads. Because I couldn't go out because I'd have a relentless attack by all the, Any Pakistani gangs that saw me. They were like, he spoke up. You're not allowed to speak up. Fast forward 2009. We have a soldiers homecoming parade. The same group, but by this point, I've got, I'm moving on my life, I've got business, I've got a family, I'm succeeding. And there was a soldier's homecoming parade which was attacked by the same group of terrorists. They weren't, they weren't terrorists or they weren't labeled terrorists at this point. They, the government prescribed them as a terrorist organization once we tackled them. Yeah. But we formed then a movement in Luton called the United people of Luton which was to come together. After they attacked our soldiers, they were taken through our town hall by the police. And I remember watching it, it was a Tuesday morning and I went down to pay my respects. And we love our armed forces. You have an immense amount of respect in America. I wish our armed forces got the level of gratitude that yours do. Yeah, but we do. We, we respect and love our armed forces. Now anytime anyone mentions the town of Luton, which is part of my identity, it's what I love. That's where I'm from, is to do a terrorism, jihad, rape, murder, war. So we had a soldier homecoming parade. And worldwide news was our soldiers getting attacked by jihadists in our town. And the government, council, police, they brought them through our town hall to do it. So I remember watching them go through the town hall thinking, what's happening here? And the soldiers are marching down the back of the town hall. The police brought them out to the front to spit on them. They spat them on the soldiers and mum's faces they now in that regiment. It's the Royal Angrim Regiment, our local regiment. A boy from our estate had died. 26 Scott Muntridge. Michael Swainey had lost his legs. They lost a leg for us. And this was their moment of freedom in our town. And they faced an attack. And it wasn't that these groups attacked them because I know, I think these groups think I know them. I know how they think. I know their jihadist mindset. For me, it was, you let them do this. The government, the police, they let them do this. So we then wanted to get to. I set up the first demonstration, which was to get to our town hall and get to the war memorial to pay respects. And the police crushed us. The police attacked us like three weeks later. It was. Police come out with batons on horses. They searched us. And I made a documented video of it. I paid a wedding. I knew what would happen because I'm from Luton. I know, I know how the police treat us and I know how they treat them. So I, I hired a wedding, a wedding videographer. It was a shock to him. I hired a wedding videographer and said, I want you to spend the day with us and film everything. And I remember it cost me £450. But I thought, I need to show people the difference in how they're treated and we're treated. And when they attacked our soldiers, they arrested our people that day. They didn't arrest them. They turned their batons on us again that day, not on them. They literally become so scared. It's hard to explain. They just don't. They'd never said no to the Islamic community. They don't get a no for anything. Everything's a yes. Everything's how jump, how high. They literally are appeased in such a manner.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay, so let me stop here for a second. The first part of this story reminds me in some ways of things that I have experienced. And I remember I was probably 35, 38, somewhere in that area when I first started talking about some of these things and warning. And I honestly thought that the journalist would be honest, that I could show them, here's the evidence. Look, they're saying this and here's the evidence and here's what they're doing. And that they would go, oh, I didn't see that. You know what I mean? They might hate me, but they would at least pursue. That was the first shot where I'm like, oh, my gosh, this is not what I thought. Then when the government got involved and the government was. And not to the extent where you have seen it. I was completely disillusioned. You had to have gone through that exact same thing.

[Tommy Robinson]

It was for me. I was leading a. When we started, I didn't know politics at all. I'd never looked at politics. And that's the problem with many of us from my background, working class men, we don't care, we don't vote. I don't know anyone that's voted yes, we don't vote. Kirstan was elected off 9 million votes. 20 million didn't vote. Yeah, that's the problem here. Yeah. I think 86 million Americans didn't vote,

[Glenn Beck]

but we just didn't have a problem with that too.

[Tommy Robinson]

We just didn't care about politics and we think we weren't rich enough or poor enough for it to really affect us. It's the same difference everywhere. So this is our naive mentality at the time, but we didn't care about politics. We. I didn't know there was left wing or right wing newspapers. I didn't know. I didn't know. I just didn't care. Yeah. Just growing up, working, trying to progress, not interested. Then when I turned up for my first meeting with a newspaper, when I set up my. The first protest and it was the Guardian, I had no idea. And two, my two friends who come with me, both black lad, both black English British lads, I've turned up to the meeting, sat and done an interview, thinking. And then the newspaper story come out and I'm like, what the hell? They're calling me a racist. They totally admit the fact I've turned up with two non whites. We. We done things at the start. We burnt Nazi flags. Luton is one of the most diverse towns, my friends, all of us, we're all the sons of immigrants, pretty much. Yeah. Luton has got a divide through religious, not race. We've never had it. Yeah. So white and black's always been like this. Always. Yeah. There's no difference. We all integrate, assimilate, we will get on well. So I then started reading. And the real shock for me, when we left Luton, we went to Birmingham, 50 of us, to protest again against the terrorist group there. And when we went there, we just got obliterated, attacked by gangs. And there was Vit, there was a picture. And I remember there was a lad at a bus stop, an English lad, he wasn't with us, wearing a green top and he got violently beaten. And there's a picture that went in the newspapers. It was five Muslims with their feet in the air jumping on his head. And it read, a fascist is attacked by anti fascists. And I read it and went, what the hell are we up against? Like what is this? I just could not understand the lies, that deceit. And then I realized when I started, I knew from my experience in 2004, if you try and talk about this Islam, gangs, rapes, if you try and speak about the terrorism, they're going to come for you. Because I've had four years of it. Yeah. So I then thought, right, I'm going to use a different name, Tommy Robinson. I'm going to hide my face and try and talk about these issues, which is how I started. No one knew who I was for about a year and because I want to protect my family. But I was ready for the threats and the violence because I knew that it had come. I was not ready for the weight of the British state. I just had no idea. The country I thought I lived in, I very quickly realized is not the country I live in. I thought, so I've got the Magna Car tattooed here. Yeah. I've got, I thought we're the land of the free, we have democracy, we have free speech. Then I exercise my free speech. Realized very quickly, wow. In 2009 when I set up this movement, in the first three, three weeks in police dawn raids, in the first six months, three big police raids froze my assets, froze my businesses. You know the Patriots act, they weaponize against your citizens. Well, they weaponized terrorism legislation where they didn't need a crime, they came in looking for a crime.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh my gosh.

[Tommy Robinson]

They came in, they went.

[Glenn Beck]

That's why we broke away from you guys. You're back to that.

[Tommy Robinson]

They went through every member of my family's financial history. Every member. They got warrants without us even knowing. My mum, my dad, and they went through everyone I'm linked to and they went back six years on every member to look for anything.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh my gosh.

[Tommy Robinson]

And what they got was someone, my brother in law lying about how much he earned to get a mortgage, didn't defraud the mortgage company. We had a thing called self certification mortgages in the uk. It took them four years to get to this point. So they came in and for four years they froze my assets. So I had, I was doing very successful. Yeah, they froze my banks, they froze my companies, they closed my companies, they went to everyone I worked with in my company. So I had a successful plumbing company. We were doing 20 houses, 30 houses. They went to all the company owners that give us contracts. They sat them down they were investigating me for money laundering. No prosecution for money laundering. They, they prosecuted me for tax evasion. I got not guilty. But what they'd done is when they got their list of people, they then got onto a court position where they said they were prosecuting them. My ex wife was six months pregnant at the time when they arrested her. They questioned her for six hours, three, four times over over the space of those four years. Kept bringing her in, sitting there, interviewing her. Yeah. And then when it got to prosecution, they offered me the deal. Plead guilty to this, we drop them all. So I had to plead guilty. And then they use this in my Wikipedia. Prosecuted for mortgage fraud. No, no mortgage company lost any money. None of them were my mortgages. Yeah, I had seven mortgages between me and my wife. There was no fortunate in any, any of them. My brother in law, who was young, who bought a house, done a house up, sold it, paid the mortgage company back, every penny. I got 18 months in prison. I took a deal because if I didn't take the deal, I, when I walked the streets, people can see the videos. I faced confrontation and violence. No one ever knew who my ex wife was. So they were going to put her in prosecution whether she gets or not, guilty or not. The weapon of the media, which I realized under the, under a totalitarian state, they have weapons. The judiciary, the media, the European Union. These places are not free places, they are tyrannical regimes and they' not and you can't. And when you try and speak about an issue, you have to understand as well, which we can get, we'll get onto the crime of the rape of a generation of our daughters. When I started talking about this, no one knew and it successfully conspired to cover this up for 30 years. So when someone starts talking with thousands of young men on the street and the media from around the world are watching and listening and we're using social media against them and we're talking about an issue that they've covered up. When all the people who've covered up from over those 30 years have rose into prominence into power. Then that, for example, I'll get on the Rotherham rape gangs, which I'll explain in detail as we go on. The Roveram rape gang is the biggest scandal and it was the first big case of the Muslim men raping and kidnapping children. And it was brought to Light in 2014. The cases come up. We were talking about this from 2009. Well, the police officer in charge in those years of allowing the children to be raped and we know from government reports now that they all knew it and they let it happen. Well, he's no longer in charge of rover police force. He's in charge of counter terrorism. The counselors who are counselors at the time are no longer counselors for the Labor Party. They're now members of parliament. So all these people have risen up, they've conspired to hide a crime because they multiple reasons. They're fearful of upsetting the Islamic community because if you upset them, they get violent. The same reason our government this week or last two weeks refused to stand with you, America. They don't, they don't know what to do. Because if we stand with America and stand on our principles and our values,

[Glenn Beck]

you've got got hell on your hands.

[Tommy Robinson]

We've got 4 or 5 million Muslims here, many of them unintegrated or assimilated and many of them willing to participate in violence. So the two countries who, if you look at the countries that recognize the Palestinian state at a time when hostages were still being held, they could have used that recognization, said well we'll recognize your state, let hostages go. They didn't. So they didn't even do that. Yeah, they just recognize the Palestinian state. Which countries? France. They've got the most terrorist offenses in or jihad. Brilliant. All these countries now. And America will be no different. The path you're on at the minute, because I'm looking and learning as I get, I know it's that you're going to be no different because you're going to be in a position in 10 years time where you've got 25 million Muslims, they're armed and if you declare war on any of these Islamic states, as you're seeing, what have you had? Four successful attacks in two weeks, Five with the ones that are planned. Now it's just a numbers game. You're at 1%. If you was at 10, you'd have had 40 attacks. So it's just a numbers game. And, and that can be proven by the figures of whether you look rapes or crime or terrorism or jihad. The most jihad attacks and the most crime is in France because France has the most biggest Islamic community. Then it's Britain Strike Germany, we've had the same. So it's just a numbers game.

[Glenn Beck]

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[Tommy Robinson]

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[Glenn Beck]

screen why was this done to us?

[Tommy Robinson]

Why was it done? Yeah, I'll say with America. It's not a mistake. None of it's a mistake.

[Glenn Beck]

I agree with that.

[Tommy Robinson]

And it's been, and this has been admitted lead labor politicians opened the borders to rub the right's nose in it. But the right. There's a combination of things here where people are importing voters and there's that, that power because that's what they're doing. Say if I look at, if I look at the United States and just one point, Minnesota. Somalians come from the hottest place in the planet. Why are they in Minnesota?

[Glenn Beck]

Because our State Department put them there.

[Tommy Robinson]

Do you think they chose Minnesota?

[Glenn Beck]

No.

[Tommy Robinson]

They've been Positioned in Minnesota, 7 position in Minnesota and now Texas. They're coming for Texas because if they take Texas, they take the soul of the United States. And they know that. So there's not. And this isn't a mistake. None of it. As I said, I'm. I've been preparing for a presentation I'm doing this Thursday. They've been pretty Open lead Islamic voices in 1989 were telling the Islamic community in the United States how they're going to work, what they're going to do to end Western civilization. Here you've got the documents found, the Muslim Brotherhood documentation documents found. This has all been planned but it's being very fastly accelerated right now. Now why is it done in Europe? When we look at the influx in the open border immigration, say for example, Tony Blair lead with Labour Party, your Democrat party openly said why they opened the borders. So Angela Merkel this week, last week has admitted in an interview that she opened the borders. And now the migrants that they let in, they need to vote to stop the AfD, the Alternative for Deutschland, who are the patriotic Nationalist Party. So she's saying we let you in, you need to vote for us. That's what this has been. And your swing states, I looked at your swing states, illegal immigration up 700% they were there would never been a swing state again. If you didn't elect Donald Trump in this election, I know there would never have been another one. You would have never won an election again. So this is the importation of a new vote bank and that vote bank organizes itself again. I've just looked at covert footage from Mandani's right hand man who was we're hopefully going to use this on Thursday. Who said and the way they've done it, we went to 100 mosques a week because the Muslim community will vote for who the imam tells them to. And to an American audience, I can just tell you my life in Luum we now white English, we're irrelevant. And we're irrelevant because the leader of the council of Mosques I looked at this in 2013 when I was in my hometown. I was there and I went on the government website and looked at the projected growth forecast for the community. Different communities, the Pakistani and Bangladeshi community were going to increase by 70 to 77% by 2030, 17 year period. That was the projected growth forecast. We actually know that their community over a 10 year period went up 48 the 10 years prior. Yeah. So when it increases by 70 to 77% the white and black community were going to increase by 1.2 to 1.4. So the future for the Labor Party, all the Democrats like the equivalent. It's not us. They know that. They know the birth rate and the change in rate by bringing in and taking over Minnesota then 15, 20 years. They know these groups, 81 of them rely on the state. Republicans want a small government. They want to succeed. They Want you to progress. Many of the people there important are quite happy to rely on the state. So they want people relying on the state. And I think in the United States, the acceleration when we talk about plantations and slavery, the black community, they're still on the plantation. They're just on the plantation of the Democrats and the, the fatherless homes, all of these things. The breakdown, the family. There's been a coordinated attack everywhere. I say, looking at my home countries and the west, all western nations really, the far left and the left, they've had a successful revolution, they've succeeded. They broke down borders, broke down family, broke down identity, LGBTQ plus. All of these points are their revolution. And we were at a stage where we've nearly lost. Like we're in the uk. What can we do? And that's why everyone's asking themselves now. And when you look at the, the flooding of nations and immigration obviously is supposed to benefit the nation. The government, the government's job is supposed to protect its citizens. But anyone coming into your country is meant to benefit. So when you look at the Somali immigration, well, what benefit? Where is the benefit? If I look at the Islamic immigration into the UK, they say we're now at 6%. From that 6% Muslim immigration. And again, remember, it's a numbers game. From that 6%, we have 40,000 British Muslims on the terror watch list. 40,000. 40,000. 3,000 of them are monitored 24 hours a day, seven days a week by our security services. That cost 9 billion a year. Now, now as the population doubles, we're gonna have 80 000. After 80 000, we'll have 160 000. Now we get. You get to a point in society where what do you do to deal with this? Because. And the demographics show, and there's been study after study, so I don't. It's not because America is looking like it's willing to go down the same path. And you've got to learn it. You can look at the countries that have done it. Germany, France, Sweden, they've all come out now and said, look, it doesn't. But they're all still flooding because the left care about power and they don't care where the power comes from. And they're willing to turn a blind eye to fraud in Minnesota, turn a blind eye to the rape of a generation of England's daughters. None of these things matter. What matters is power for them. And where does the power come from in the future? The Islamic community organized themselves like a military fashion. The Leader of the Council of Mosques in my town will sit down with the Labour Party and do a deal. And for that deal, they will get 100,000 votes and they know it. We don't do that. We don't organize like that. We're not politicized like that. So we're not even really voting. Voting. I think you had it in the primaries. I looked at 48. Was it? Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

Bad. Very bad.

[Tommy Robinson]

The Muslim community won't be voting at 48. Yeah. So if there's Muslim opposition to you that's been brought into your nation, maybe you're only at, what, 1% at the minute? I think 1.7. In Texas, we're at 6%. France is at 10. I just. I think. Are any of you thinking what it's going to be like at 20? Are any of our leaders actually looking and thinking, what are you going to do?

[Glenn Beck]

I will tell you that I've talked to leaders here in America about, are you making plans now militarily to go in and take the nuclear weapons from our former allies in Europe? Because these will soon be Islamic states with nuclear missiles. I mean, it's only a matter of time. Liz Truss was sitting in this chair and she said to me, england's a failed state. By 2030, it will be a completely failed state. It's over. Unless. And I said, unless what? She said, there's a complete renaissance, a new understanding of the voters and they engage and the party actually offers people that will offer the solution. Do you see that happening in England?

[Tommy Robinson]

Yeah, I'm optimistic in the sense that, look, I started talking about this in 2009. I've become one of the most hated men in my country, as did Katie Hopkins. I don't know if you've sat down with Katie. She's brilliant. As did Katie Hopkins. We were vilified, demonized, attacked. As I said, there's six Muslims in jail. They got caught with guns, bombs and IEDs. Suicide. Best on the way to kill us. Yeah. Everything was. Targets were put on us, just like they were put on Charlie Kirk, just like they put on you, just like they put on any conservative Republican speakers. Because they want radicals, they want extremists to do their job, get rid of the criticism, get rid of the people. Because if the people were allowed to listen to me in 2009 and from 2004 onwards, really, yeah, we could have prevented some of these things happening. But if you're allowed to understand the scale of the problem and what the problem is, then we as a public are going to start looking at our leaders and saying, what have you done? Because every problem we're talking about now, whether it be in Germany, France and the United States, is happening because of policy failure by government.

[Glenn Beck]

Forgive me, because I don't pay attention to English politics deeply. I got my hands full over here. But when I saw your parliament vote against going after investigating the rape gangs. The rape gangs, it's one of the most stunning things I've ever seen.

[Tommy Robinson]

I thought, not if you understand what

[Glenn Beck]

the hell just happened there.

[Tommy Robinson]

Yeah. Not if you understand how high this goes. Because they've all got dirty hands. Which is why I had to be crushed. At any means, at any level, I had to be crushed. For example, these aren't Muslim rape gangs. They're Labour's Muslim rape gangs. They're bought in by Labour Party. They've been protected by the Labour Party. For example, Rochdale Sit in the north of England. I went and tried to a local Labour councillor called Mr. Hussain. When the rape gangs happened and 100 children were raped by this group of men. When the men went to court, he, as the Labour representative went to court to testify that the men charged were good, decent men to try to prevent them getting prosecuted. He was the Labour councillor. In response, he didn't lose his position of job. Now people lose their position or job for criticizing Islam. He went to defend men who had raped 100 children. He didn't lose his job. He accelerated through the Labour Party. Now in Rotherham, another scandal. Councillor Jaglir, who's another Muslim whose cousins were the main rapists, he acted as coordinate for the gangs whilst the gangs were raping kids when the girls were missing, when it got too much and they were gone for three or four days, hid liaise to bring them back, not to be prosecuted. To get the girl back. Okay, you've had her four days, let's get her back. Fully aware of the gangs did nothing in that town in Rotherham, Sarah Champion, who was the local mp, she tried to speak up about the gangs. They kicked her out of La Pie, removed her. Power. Power, yeah. And replaced her as she was Minister of Women. So she. Her job was to protect women. They removed her and they replaced her with Nashar, who's a Muslim MP who is on record as sharing a message to say the victims of these rape gangs need to shut their mouths for the sake of diversity. Now that's so whatever city. Because my next documentary is on this. Yeah. I keep getting put in jail or prosecuted, but they know I'm coming after them on this because I'm going to prove to the world that this is what they've done. Yeah. So that, that's Rotherham. If we look at Oldham, the Muslim gentleman whose job it was for the council to stop the rape gangs, he's in prison as one of the men involved in the rape gangs, the Labour Party. Now, when you look in Telford, Telford is a town where I've done a five part series called the Rape of Britain. What I did, and this is the real numbers game because people need to understand the scale of this problem, because America needs to understand the seed has been planted in your country. The same problems are here. These problems are not unique to an individual town, town or city or country. They are identical wherever the Islamic community go. And they're identical, which I'm going to prove this Thursday from scripture and support. So when Boko Haram took 200 women in Nigeria, they've took thousands now. But when they took 200, the leader of Boko Haram come out and made a video and said, we've been commanded by Muhammad to do this. This is okay, we can take them. Because there's four verses in the Quran that state very clearly outside of your four wives, one of the verse actually says, say they are blameless. And you can hear imam, which I've actually been digging. I've got imam after imam after imam in the United States in mosques, explaining this to them. So people really need to understand this. And the reason why if non Muslims who don't think we should have an opinion, some people think, oh, Islam, we should just ignore it. Like we ignore the Amish and we ignore this community. That is going to be the biggest disaster for this country because 64% of the Quran talks about us, you non Muslims, how we should be subjugated, how we should be controlled, how we should be annihilated in times. Yeah. How we should be enslaved. It's all in there. And these scriptures and verses, as I said, Boko Ram come out and made it clear. The Yazidi, what, 4,000 girls are still missing. An entire community taken, raped and pillaged. And again, ISIS come out and give a written justification for why they were doing it, because Muhammad commands it. Now in the UK, 3% of the UK is Muslim. Male 3%. 90% of the convictions of groups of men who rape children is Muslim. 30% of the men convicted for raping these children are called Muhammad. You're not allowed to ask why, which is what's got me in so much problems over the years. Yeah, okay. Why? So let's Try and understand this, which I done a in depth. I went and spent 12 to 18 months in the town of Telford. Now, the town of Telford has a 1.7% Muslim population. Not many there. When I went there and I spent time interviewing survivors of these gangs, I sat down with a dozen 18 at different times. I interviewed them for three hours, four hours, three times. Four times, five times. Built a database of what's happening in the town and I chose that town. In my town, As I said, 50% Muslim. So in this town, 1.7%. I thought, I'm going to find out everything about every one of you. Yeah, I'm going to investigate all of them. And we did. We put trackers on their cars, we went into their restaurants with COVID recordings. We spoke to them without them knowing. They're talking to girls who are working for us. We got in their taxis, we done it all. Yeah, we built an entire day database. And in this database we looked at the police investigation in the town. The Police investigation identified 200 rapists from Telford in this town, five children. There's been five murders. A little girl burned alive. Just in this town. The police investigation identified 200 rapists and 1,000 victims. Remember, I only spoke to 12 or 18 in between that. Yeah, I only spent time interviewing them. They identify the thousand. Out of that 200 rapists, they prosecuted 11, so they did not prosecute. 189. They don't have the resources to. They just can't deal with it. And that's. This is in every town, city. Now, how mainstream is the rape of our kids within the community, the Pakistani community, the Islamic community? Well, in these cases across the country, some cases have 11 cousins raping, some cases have fathers and sons raping together, brothers and brother in laws. Pretty much every rape, gang scandal, they're related and they're cousins. So this is a whole new mindset that we don't understand. Yeah, and you're not going to understand it unless you get your mind into the mindset of someone who follows the scripture of Islam. And that is she deserves it. This is allowed. I'm allowed to do this. It's her fault. Outside of my four wives, I can do this. Muhammad has commanded it. So when they believe in this system, as I said, the population in this small town, get rid of the children, get rid of the women. There's a thousand Muslim men. Police identified 220%. We identified 264 our investigation. So the police say 200, we got 264. Now there was inquiry. And this is where what you saw voted down. What you saw voted down. The history of this is insane. Yeah. Because what it is, they've shut this down. They managed to hide it. Along come the English Defence League. 10,000 men charged through the streets. They realized, realize, we can't hide this. Yeah. How are we gonna hide this?

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Tommy Robinson]

Right. These men are going mad.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Tommy Robinson]

Rightfully so as well. Because people say, yeah, you were really angry. Yeah. Yes, we were really angry.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Tommy Robinson]

And we took it to a point where I. I stopped the English Defence Leagues. I thought, we've got. We get. We need to get this out. We got it out. Yeah. If you draw a graph for the arrests for Muslim rape gangs, it goes flat like this.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Tommy Robinson]

You get to 2009, where the English Defence League forms. Men took to the city of every town, city. We built a date. We built a network in every town, city of young men. And it. Look, they give us criticism. It wasn't going to be doctors or nurses that was going to stand up for this. It was going to be young English men who are not going to back down. You're not going to beat us into submission. So it was that mindset of man. We take some criticism for that. It was needed at a moment in time. Now you draw a long line and 2010, 2011, you literally get a graph like this. They realize we've got to do something here. Yeah. Because it's out. You managed to keep it in. It's now out. Now. The labor government, government, what they tried to do to me was just crush me, absolutely destroy me through lawfare, through attacks from the police, from any angles, through the media. Just absolutely discredit this man. No one listened to him. All of my videos have aged very well. I sit here now viewed very differently than I was. Yeah. I was a. I was a person on graph everywhere. No one would talk to me. No one would. Because it's toxic to talk to Tommy Robinson. Yeah. They successfully had a campaign to do that time.

[Glenn Beck]

I've lived it.

[Tommy Robinson]

I know, I know. So we've. They've done that. They discredit you. They demonize you. But the Labor Party then, who have allowed this to happen? All of the political parties, Conservatives did as well. They all. They all allowed it to happen. They all knew it's happening. The media let happen. All of this is happening now. They. In this small town of Telford, the calls for an independent inquiry. Now I've got the letter which these clowns have. It's like I watched the. The Local MP there recently, who was a counselor at the time. This is what the problem is. They go through and then now they're mps and I watch him talking in Parliament. It's like they rewrite history. He's talking for an inquiry now. I've got a letter that he wrote to the home secretary 10 years ago to block the inquiry. Ten counsellors signed it. Now, four of the councillors that signed it, their job is in some way related to protecting kids. Why would they write a letter and sign it to the Home Secretary asking her to block an inquiry into the Muslim community who are raping English copies? Girls. We know a thousand are raped and we know five are dead. So what answers can they have? They've got no answers. So they managed to block it because the government. There's an independent inquiry, but there's a statutory powered inquiry. So under statutory power, if the government done it and give it, then you can summons police officers, you can summons council workers. So when they're saying there's been an inquiry in Telford, not with statutory power, there hasn't. So the police and the council just turned a blind eye and didn't deal with the inquiry. So they weren't allowed to be questioned. They weren't. They were. Because if they were questioned, petitioned on oath in court and they didn't tell the truth, they get two years in jail. Yeah. And they have to tell the truth under statory power. So the government have never given statutory power. So there's been an inquiry in Telford, which we've got the numbers from, but it's not a government in our government given permission.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Tommy Robinson]

It's a solicitors firm done it. So then I go to jail. Most recently. We can get. We get onto why, but I'm in jail. This is why it blew up into the world. Elon Musk put the biggest magnifying glass on this issue now in the. In a town called Oldham. The towns we've been given the statistics for are Telford. As I said, there's no Muslims there. Thousand victims. Rotherham has a 3.7 Muslim population. There's no Muslims there. Yeah. Other towns like Luton, 50, like Bradford, 50, Birmingham, 40, Oldham. Oldham. 33%. Oldham of the parents have been screening, screaming. The community have been crying. They've been trying to get an inquiry into Oldham. So what's happened is five times they've gone to the council and it's been voted down by the Labour party. It's a 33% Muslim population. So when they get into the council like that, just Vote it down. They use democracy to end democracy. They use it to stop you. Yeah. So they just voted down any application for these inquiries. And there's videos of the mothers and the families getting dragged out crying while. Whilst they're all just like, no, no inquiry, no inquiry, no inquiry. So the locals then stood candidates in council and said, I'll stand and I will make sure you get an inquiry. Yeah. So then they win. So then in Oldham now, we want an inquiry. So then they go to the government and say, well, we're voting for an inquiry. The Labour government, who are in control now, Jess Phillips, they then say, shut it down. So they've got voted in to get the inquiry. They've fought for years to have an inquiry. They've been stopped every point. They then go to the government, right, we've voted for an inquiry. The Labour government go. Not with statutory power you haven't. We're shutting it down. They're just covering everything. They're hiding everything still now. And that's the vote you saw. So you then saw when Elon Musk shared this and people started understanding some of the demonic. This isn't about sexual gratification, these gangs, it's about taking the most, taking what we love and hold dear, our daughters and destroying them. Absolutely. Destroying and breaking them. That's what it's about. For example, again, a young girl in one of these gangs, they got hot iron rod and they heated it with the letter M and they scolded her bum because she was the property of Muhammad. She was 11 years old. Other young 12 year olds are now tongues to the table. Yeah, they take these girls out in one of the corners. One of, in the, in the five part series I've done. You can watch all these [e-mail] we went, we spent the time and when the men were named by three girls or more that don't know each other. So it's not hard for the police to do this. Three girls that don't know each other making the same allegations against the same man. They're from different areas of that town. They've all been pimped, raped, tortured. Some of the girls they'd take up to the woods when they're 12 or 13, 13, they take them up to the woods in the middle of the night. They'd already rape them and then urinate on her. They'd hold her while they piss all over her. Once they urinate all over her. That's what this was about, you know, taking our daughters. So anyone when you look at the statistics and the figures and we look across Europe to see the trend now in Morocco, the Moroccans in Holland were doing this and they made an educational video. They called it lover boy. The Dutch government to try and educate. Look, this is what they're doing. And in Holland they call it lover boy. In India it's called love jihad. And in the UK they're calling it grooming. Really what we're talking about is a rape jihad level. That and, and the figures speak for themselves. Sweden, I think it's less than 10 Muslim population. Sweden, 63 of rapes in Sweden, Muslim men. Germany opened up their borders and this is where you need to. Americans need to understand what has just happened to your country and how you need ice because you, you the importance of ice. Angela Merkel opened the borders of Germany. Now, when you open the borders of a European Union nation, you open the borders of Europe because they, they're not confined to Germany. She agrees to give them all their passports. Now, just In Germany, from 2017 to 2022 rapes went up 45. Last year, the figures show that 58 of the rapes in Germany, Muslim migrants. Again, there's only 10 or 15% less than 10% even.

[Glenn Beck]

So I tell me, I. This is what America hears because they don't. I mean, you're called far right by everybody. I'm called far right. I don't even know what that means.

[Tommy Robinson]

It just means that you speak openly and honestly and it's. And what it used to be, it used to be successful. You see those labels? This is where I'll get on to being a bit optimistic. They managed to silence. And I look at Britain and we are a nation of fighters. It's in our DNA to fight. We fight tyranny is what we've always done. We don't back down. Our motto is no surrender. It's from our country. That's who we are. They paralyze the entire nation of men through the fear. Just the word racist, Islamophobe. Far right. They successfully got us too scared to talk about anything or speak up because we don't want to be labeled. That's the power of political greatness. That's how powerful it is. And cancel culture. Mix all the things together. The media cancel culture.

[Glenn Beck]

You get to a point to where a population can only be squashed for so long and then sometimes scary things happen. Then people are like, you know what? I don't care what they're saying, they agree with me on this. And then you get really Crazy people. Germany, I'm speaking, generally speaking, historically, Germany. Really scary people. And people are. Good people are like, you know what? They'll fix the problem.

[Tommy Robinson]

That's coming now.

[Glenn Beck]

That's coming.

[Tommy Robinson]

That's. There's been a shift which I'd say has come to our country from your country. When I look at it, because we don't have this sort of. There's. When we talk about ethno nationalism now, white English are 33% of London. That's not right. Yeah. Most of our major cities are gone. When you think in America, you think of Paris. Trust me, Paris is gone. Gone. It's gone. Berlin's gone. Yeah. These cities. You could blindfold yourself, get off a plane, land in London, Berlin or Paris, walk down the street. You think you're in Kashmir.

[Glenn Beck]

I. I was in Paddington. I thought I was in Iraq.

[Tommy Robinson]

Paddington Bear.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. I thought I was in Iraq. I mean, there were parts.

[Tommy Robinson]

Most cities. Now most cities. Most major cities. So then people look and there's been a sway now that's come in where people are just saying. And we. They all need to be deported. And when they're saying, oh, some groups. And some groups are moving now where. Because they're so angry and so upset and so scared because we see ourselves becoming a minority everywhere. Yeah. Is it okay? No, it's not. That's not okay. The majority of England and Britain must remain a majority white nation. That's not racist. Majority of Nigeria must remain majority black nation. And if they started changing and they started getting replaced, it would be wrong. Wrong for their history, their culture and their identity now. The same with Japan. If this happened in Japan, we'd be saying, no, that's not. That's not right now. Many of my friends I love are not white. Yeah. They'd agree on this. Okay. What made the country so successful that people want to come and visit our culture and our identity now again, we can look. But I feel that other groups are now being blamed, which I'm seeing. Yeah. That have successfully integrated and assimilated into the uk. Jews have. Have. Hindus have. Sikhs have. Now. So there's not been these problems. We wouldn't even be discussing the point of immigration. I don't think if we. Maybe because Rishi Sunak let in a million in one year through legal migrations. Illegal migrations are as problematic. But you, in America, your success story, if you can bring people in and get them to feel American and be American. Yeah. You're not going to do that with the Islamic community. I'm telling You. It does not happen. It won't happen. The ideology doesn't allow it to happen, happen. They won't want it to happen. So then you get an entire enclave, which we've got, which is what we're seeing. We're seeing entire enclaves where there is no integration or assimilation, no adaptation to British culture, no willingness to participate in our. In our country or its history or its future. They're here to change the country. And, and I'm saying this, and I'm. I've grow up, As I said, 50, Muslim. I know some great Muslims. They're lovely people. Yeah. But the power, in the words of Winston Churchill, individual Muslims show amazing individual traits, but Islam has the power to bring Europe back to the Dark Ages. Churchill said that. Now, Churchill also said, basically, Islam and man's like rabies and a dog. He called them Muhammadans. And he explained that they believe a woman is their property. They believe these values and all the values he spoke about are the opposite to our values.

[Glenn Beck]

So is there a difference between Islam and, as an Islamist, political Islam and Islam?

[Tommy Robinson]

I don't believe so, no. I believe that the word Islamist has been bought in to make people feel comfortable about talking about Islam. I understand it. I understand it now. I separate Muslims from Islam. People say, how do you do that? Well, if I was against Christianity, you don't think I hate Christians, do you? You celebrate me as an atheist. Yeah. Well, I'm against the value system of Islam. And what it talks about is. That doesn't mean I hate individual Muslims. Individual Muslims are individual people. If you hate Muslims, it's a problem because there's some great Muslims and they don't all follow this doctrine. In fact, the majority don't.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, that's what I think. The difference, I think, at least when I use it, Islam and an Islamist, that's the difference. Somebody who wants that Sharia law and somebody who's a Muslim who's like, I don't want any of that.

[Tommy Robinson]

Well, the majority. Well, that Sharia. Sharia law. The figures out of Afghanistan show 99 want Sharia law. Pakistan upwards of 80. Iraq 65. So when you look at all these countries, the majority want.

[Glenn Beck]

Correct.

[Tommy Robinson]

Yeah. So the, the peaceful ones that are, I'd say, are not following it. Islam. The problem is Islam. The problem is Muhammad. Was Muhammad an Islamist? Yes, he was. So if the man that they wish to revere.

[Glenn Beck]

Yes.

[Tommy Robinson]

If you wish to follow in the footsteps of Muhammad, you're going to become an Islamist. If we use that word here, a jihadist, you're going to become all these things. Now, Jefferson, founding father of the United States, he asked a question. I don't know if you know this or seen this. He asked a question. And I've only come across this because I've been researching America and trying to understand, trying to give a warning to America to say, look, we historically our leaders, their job was to warn and tell the truth. And they were never coward by these stupid labels. Yeah. So as I said, I've just quoted Churchill, William Gladstone Stone, one of the best leaders Britain's ever had. He said, there will never be peace in this earth so long as we have this book, the Quran. It's a violent and cursed book. Now he wasn't shouted down as a bigot or an extremist or he was just speaking facts. Now Jefferson couldn't understand at the time why Muslims were attacking the ships so fruit in Tripoli through the diplomats. And he wrote this. He wrote this. Yeah. It become apparent that they were attacking the ships because of what Muhammad told them to do in the Quran. Now what the, what the Muslims had told the Americans is the verse which is you either convert. Yeah. You pay the jizya or you die. Now the jizz here is a tax. So the, the bar, the Barbary pirates were demanding attacks from the United States government. Yeah. If you want your ships to fly across, you pay us. Then we'll start. Step back. Yeah. You created the navy. Your navy was created.

[Glenn Beck]

No, Marines.

[Tommy Robinson]

Yeah, you're marines. You're marines. The, the song from the marines is about fighting. This verse. Not an interpretation of this verse. Not a bigoted version of this verse. Yeah. This verse which is now being taught because I've got imam after imam after imam talking about this verse in the United States now.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Tommy Robinson]

So your navy, your leaders. And I've. And I wrote, I put together with an incredible gentleman called Peter McLaughlin, one of the best brains I've ever met. We put together Muhammad's Quran. Why Muslims kill for Islam. Which one it was is put in the Quran in the correct chronological order that Jefferson, Churchill and Gladstone would have read it. Now the reason it's important, because it's not in that order now when you in the modern world. Yeah. And the reason it's important is because abrogation in Islam, something Muhammad says later in his life supersedes what he says earlier. So the peaceful verses are in the first ten years Muhammad's life. Then you bring in the violence. These verses that demand jizya. And Barack Obama basically paid the jizya. He basically paid 1.7 billion to Iran. He was. He, rather than Jefferson, went to war, Trump's going to war, Obama's like, we'll pay him. And he sent brain loads of your cash to them. Yeah, but that is this verse in action with Jefferson. Now, you know the phrase Islam is religion of peace. It was never said in history to George W Bush. We tried. If you can find something, show me. Yeah, we tried to find a leader, an Islamic leader. An Islamic leader. Now, when we. When I searched for Islamic leaders, one of the leaders of a NATO country, now Turkey, he said, the dome is our helmet, the minaret is our sword, the faithful are our soldiers, the mosque is our barracks. So their words again, there's not extremist Islam, there's Islam. So there's not one time George W Bush said after September 11, Islam is religion of peace. Prior to him saying that, that's never spoken in history. That's never been said in history. All of our leaders and your leaders and all the best world leaders just knew Islam was a war manual. Muhammad was a very successful war warrior.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Tommy Robinson]

It was known. Now, what we live now is in an era through, whether it be political benefits, whether it be fear, political correctness, where our leaders lie and they're lying. And, well, whilst lying, you are now importing the most dangerous mindset and allowing it to use your values and your constitution to end your constitution. Because that's the intention. Again, not my. Not my belief. It's their belief.

[Glenn Beck]

No, we're the main target. United States is the main target.

[Tommy Robinson]

Because if they take. Do you know, now I'm sitting in, now we're having this discussion. Elon Musk gave me back my voice. I was censored, deplatformed. I was invisible for five years because I exposed corruption, I exposed the BBC. I've done documentaries. They had to stop us, so they used all their powers to do that. They've done it here as well. They got rid of Donald Trump's social media, they censored conservative voices, they went on an attack against you. Everyone like us was attacked. Yeah. So again, they had control. We now there's a light been lit in Europe and there's a light been lit in Britain. Our last event had. That was the biggest event Britain's ever seen.

[Glenn Beck]

It's unbelievable.

[Tommy Robinson]

None of that would have happened without a Elon Musk buying social media and giving us back a chance.

[Glenn Beck]

We wouldn't have had Donald Trump if it wasn't for Elon Musk.

[Tommy Robinson]

And if we didn't have that and then you didn't have Donald Trump. If we didn't now have Rubio and J.D. vance telling the European Union all of these things get. We've got hope now. We've got hope. I didn't have hope. I was still fighting a fight because you can't give in the fight. But I didn't see where we were going to get out of it. And our hope has come from America. So if they take. If you don't have free speech, I don't know if Americans really understand the value of your constitution. I think you're going to lose that

[Glenn Beck]

because we think you have freedom. You have freedom of speech. Just like you're arresting people at a clip that the Soviet Union was arresting people on freedom of speech.

[Tommy Robinson]

We have 30 a day, 12,000 a year.

[Glenn Beck]

That's insanity.

[Tommy Robinson]

Do you know my last arrest? I just got no further action. I got arrested recently for two tweets. One of them was fuck Hamas. Fuck Hamas. Like, you're arresting me. You're criminally arresting me and investigating me. Me for sharing a meme about fucking. Fuck it. Fuck Hamas. Fuck Hamas. Fuck his bulla. Fuck. So that's what. They arrested me. And not just that, the other one, which is just outrageous. I shared an article from the Daily Mail. So this is where they're going. Yeah. So recognized media outlets can publish stories. Citizen journalists, which we are fighting them, can't. So I shared their article. They arrested me. I don't have the protection that they have as a government. Government recognized media. So they have the protection. They nicked me. For sharing their story with.

[Glenn Beck]

No comment.

[Tommy Robinson]

No, no comment. I just shared it. Shared their story. And their story was showing that a school in the UK has no English children. Yeah. Not one school. There's 500 of them. Yeah. Across the country now. That's the future. Right. It's non. Non English speaking. 90 of the imams don't speak English. All of this. So we have all these problems, me sharing it. So what they're trying to do and that and odds. I explained that citizen journalism, which is what we've become. Talk shows. Like your talk show. Yeah. Uncontrollable sources of information they're trying to clamp down on. They sent me to jail multiple times for my work. They are attacking now. There's an army now building, which we want to. This is my. What we want as a vision. We need to build an army of me, of. From my. My journalism. A view of these different. But they need help because they're going to come under attack. From government, media, political arrests. We're seeing it now. We've got some great ones growing in the UK who are just citizens going out with their phone to hotels. They're following the migrants. They're telling the stories, but the media just won't. They don't. So they're telling the stories. They're now being arrested just like I was arrested. Joe, what's mad. I started my activism in 2009 on the street, where I started talking about these rape gangs. From that point, then three weeks in until the point we're at now, I have not had one single moment in those 16 or 17 years where I've not faced prison court cases. I haven't had one, not even for a week. I have a court case now in October 26th, carries a 10 year prison sentence. I've just come out in May after spending seven months on solicitor confinement for a document.

[Glenn Beck]

Is there any chance you're thinking about maybe moving to the United States?

[Tommy Robinson]

I think I listened to. Was it Sarah? What's her name? In your State Department, she spoke about the possibility of British refugees.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Tommy Robinson]

You're gonna have them flooding.

[Glenn Beck]

I know we will.

[Tommy Robinson]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

And we'll take them.

[Tommy Robinson]

You're gonna have them flooding. You have to. Again, I don't think people quite understand, like, my last two court cases, so people throw my criminal history at me. Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Tommy Robinson]

I've never had a jury. I've never ever had the opportunity to have my members of my peers judge me. I've been tried by judges every time appointed judges. One of the cases. And when I go into these. And you can look all of this up. Yeah. 2017, I go to work as a journalist, not an uncontrollable journalist, so they obviously don't want this journalism. I go outside a court building in Leeds where 30 Muslim men are standing trial for raping kids. And I make a video outside and I explain how they're doing it, how they groom children, what their M.O. is. And as the men walk into court, I said, how do you feel about your verdict? Yeah. I'm outside court. The judge is at the window. There's a picture of him. The police come and detain me. I'm arrested for. You can watch the video for breaching the piece. I didn't breach any peace. I didn't say anything extreme. I didn't presume guilt. I said, these men could be innocent. Let's ask some questions.

[Glenn Beck]

I saw the video. It's a remarkable video.

[Tommy Robinson]

And I get handcuffed. They arrest me for breaching the Peace. I get brought to the police station. Then they say, no breach of the peace. Take him to court. So they take me straight to the judge. Within two hours of my detainment, I'm sentenced to 13 months in prison. It's like I didn't get asked plea guilty. I didn't get told anything. I wasn't allowed my solicitor. So this isn't in a court in Britain. Yeah. Then when he sends me to jail, he puts an order that no one can report back. So at this moment, in 2017, Canada and America start reporting it. Ezra Levan, who I. I got into journalism for Ezra Fan.

[Glenn Beck]

I love him.

[Tommy Robinson]

Yeah. Ezra taught me to be a journalist. He spoke to me for ages, tried to convince me I didn't want to do it. I'd just come out of jail again for a previous thing, and I just said, mate, I can't fight it. I just need to get on my life. He said, get on camera, Tommy. Stop doing like. And he. So he taught me, just show the world what you're seeing. So I took a camera and become a journalist. And. And Ezra helped me. Sent me on training courses through lawyers. He supported me and he supported me and tried to help me when I didn't want the help because Ezra was trying at the time. I worked for Ezra, but my place is on the street. I didn't want to sit on desks. I said, the fight is on the street. We need to be on the street. I need to be out there showing what they're doing. But I think Ezra was trying to protect me. Said, you're gonna end up there dead, like you'll end up in jail. And then I left work in Fresra. I went to report on this case. I get detained. I get 13 months. Ezra jumps in, straight away starts fighting for my freedom. Ezra. A Free Tommy movement was set up. 660, 000 people signed a petition to prevent. To release me. It took 12 weeks of solitary confinement before we got before a judge. We end up getting before a judge. The judge rules. Everything they've done was unlawful. And I'm released from custody. Custody. But when I'm released from custody, at this point, the government are worried because 30, 000 people, this was the biggest protest at the time. Had marched on Parliament. I come out, I had the largest engagement Facebook page in Britain. In 17, I had 1.2 million. When I went live, I had 40 to 50, 000 people. Yeah. So we had got past them, we'd bypassed them. We were using this to reach people. In their lounges. So we, our journalism was flocked. I come out of jail, I look, and they've got a government funded study on social media to find out people's opinions on me. So I thought, they're scared. Yeah, they're worried. And I was quite laughing about the time, saying, what are you going to do now? We're out, we're coming for you, basically, we're going to expose you, we're going to do this. Then I find out that there's a documentary called Panorama. It's the same documentary which just edited footage on Donald Trump. Trump. Now, I went through the history of Panorama. When I found out what they were doing to me and found out that they'd worked alongside far left extremist groups 30 years ago to defame and lie and edit footage on Conservative members of Parliament. So I looked through all the history, I found out they're working on a project titled Tommy Takedown. Yeah. So they were going to use the legitimate, the legitimacy of Panorama, which is our best flagship investigative documentary maker for the BBC. They were going to use that to end me. So when I found out, I got a girl to go undercover into Panorama and I got them. Yeah. So I got the head of Panorama, John Sweeney was his name. You can look up this footage. I got the head of John, head of Panorama, on camera telling people, say this about him, say, all covertly recorded. If you say this, this and this, we'll put it in the documentary. Do we have a deal? And then. So then I sent a good girl because they were contacting everyone I'd ever grown up with, everyone I'd had a fallen out with. So if you contact 50 people that don't like me, they're hoping to just get someone say stuff. They're basically telling them what to say. And then we got them blackmailing people to say things. We got it all. Yeah, I covertly got it all. I got a girl to have her say to them, I've got footage of him being aggressive in an argument. They said, what's the argument about? Just work. How aggressive does he, what does he say? Right. And he says, look what we're doing, because he thinks she hates me. What we're doing is we're creating a sexual thing against Tommy Robinson. So. And she says, yeah, but it's not about that. And I, and I scream at him and I'm arguing with him and he says, don't worry, we can, we can clip that, we can clip all this. Yeah, he's basically negotiating with her to ruin My life over something which he knows has nothing to do with sexual stuff. Yeah. And it's all a bang to rights. So then Panorama drama, contact me. They're trying to get me to do an interview with them for their documentary at the time. I'm terrified. I'm myself because I think they're going to ruin me. Who knows what they're going to ruin me with or what allegations, but I know that they're not. So I film all of this or I film it all. Then they. So I say to them, right, I'll meet you tomorrow in my venue. And I put a screen on the wall behind me and then they turn up. Now, I don't know if you've how many. I've took part in quite a few documentaries in my early years. In the end, the media decided, decided, don't get him in documentaries, don't interview him because he keeps winning. We can't allow this. Yeah. So then they sit down and he sat there, John Sweeney, who's the face of Panorama, and along there all the producers, and they come in and producers don't turn up. This is massive for you because producers, you just have the documentary maker. I've never seen producers of shows. So then I ask him, the first question is, John, whose documentary is this? Is this the BBC? It's the jsrs. Now, I had messages from far left extremist groups saying they were directing this documentary. Hope not. Hey, your Media Matters groups like this. So I had them saying it and I had covert recordings proving that when they sat down, my old employees. Yeah, the far left extremist group Hope Not Hate were prison. And when my old employees didn't say enough negative stuff about me, they took them outside and threatened them them with more things that they would be put in prison because Hope Not Hate's board is politicians, senior ranking police officers. So they were terrifying my old employees to lie about me. But I had all these recordings. So I said, would any other group be active in this documentary? No. So I just said, press play. And then the recordings of all it started playing. I just sat looking at him and I could see all the producers and on the footage, because we videoed everything, they just go like this. And I say, would you ever say, would you ever tell anyone what to say in a documentary? Would that be journalism? No press play. Would you ever make up sexual allegations? No press play. Would you be racist because you're alleged. I'm racist because I've got him drunk in the COVID recordings and he's racist as Hell, he's homophobic. Talking about shooting gay people. Yeah. This is the face of BBC. So I press play, press play, press play. By the end of it I have annoyed violated them ended his career because he got put on gardening leaf. Their documentary that they had ready to come out the next week was never aired because I proved you were fabricating all. But when I released this documentary which had 2 million views in 40 hours, they deleted me from YouTube, Facebook, Instagram. I was invisible after this. Yeah, but they didn't just delete me if you mentioned my name on Facebook, they deleted you. So they made me and historically went through our movement and deleted it everyone. Because Nick Clegg, who's our former Deputy Prime Minister was the highest ranking in meta. Yeah. So they come out of these positions. This was the way they've done it with X. They get into positions power. Then they control the whole of social media. Now I released a documentary. They come for me for the same offense, the offense I've been got out of prison for the year before they re prosecuted me, the Attorney General did. And then I went to that Old Bailey, the High Court in London for the allegations of what they'd previously said I was in prison for. When they give me the 13 months and I got released now it went before the head judge of Del Bailey. So I produced all the evidence that I didn't breach a report restriction because under the judiciary's website they have no power to put reporting restrictions on information that's already in the public domain. So what they do as a government is they'd hit it for 30 years. Now they have to start prosecuting. So then they bring in reporting restrictions and prevent any of the vegan media talking about the cases. So then they can. They're prosecuting them. They've run a headline prosecuted men for raping kids, but we don't get the details because they're hiding it. For the whole six to eight week trial, no one's allowed to report. So they said I breached the reporting restriction. Which people. Rod Little is a famous journalist in the uk. He breached a reporting restriction. Previously on a. On a murder trial. The most historic racial murder of a black gentleman called Stephen Lawrence. Biggest case in the UK and he collapsed the trial due to his reporting. He got a fine. Yeah. So they, they prosecute. They prosecute me under this. Yeah. That's what they used now when it went before the whole head judge Al Bailey I produced to have the reporting restriction anyway, it has to be on the screen in the court and it has to be on the door. When I turned up for work that morning, I took a picture of the door, I took a picture of the screen. So I produced it all to the judge saying even if they had a report restriction, which it wasn't on the screen, it wasn't on the court under their own guidelines on their website, this is what it says. So the judge, when it went before him, I produced it, it or the day before, he looked it and said, I'm not prosecuting him. So he told the government, because I wasn't being prosecuted by the police. I was being prosecuted by the attorney general, the government, which is why it's a political decision and you don't get jewelry, you know, jewelry. Two years. Yeah. So the head judge said back to the government, we're not prosecuting him. Yeah. They done, they removed the head judge. Look at the timeline. They replaced him with Dame Victoria Sharp, the first female judge. And the big celebration because DUI's now got to the top of the, of the, the, the Old Bailey Court. They removed the judge. So we had a big win outside court. There's a video, there's thousands there. We're like, the judge has told them to go back the government, they won't prosecute me now by this point, they've removed me from every social media. So I'm thinking they can do what they want now because no one knows they're not allowed to mention my name. So even if that, even if someone want to report on social media what they're doing, you can't because they'll delete your post. Yeah. So now they come for me again. Again, replace the judge, brought me back to court. They changed because they said I, I could have prejudiced the trial. Well, the transcripts that we got in our lawyers proved I didn't prejudice the trial because the judge's own words, who prosecuted the Muslims for the rape. I've watched his video. He doesn't say anything. So then they charged me with causing alarm and distress or fear to the Muslims, the rapist by asking them a question. So even when we went to court that day, I showed the jury judge all the, all the media doing the same to me. So it's like you found something that you can. Now she sent me back to jail for 10 months. So I went back to jail to maximum security prison to get another 10 month prison sentence on solitary confinement again, which is which, I'll be honest, fried my head. Yeah, I went into jail one person the first time and come out another. But all of this and my documentary that I produced, that went to 2 million views. And if you want to see, is there a corrupt media? Not one single journalist reported on it. It was the biggest expose the BBC's ever had. Now, when I was, as I explained earlier, I used a fake name when I started my activism, Tommy Robinson, a journalist called Stephen Bird, famous journalist, he wrote for the Times newspaper, probably the newspaper that Barack Obama was picking up at the time, or Donald Trump picks up in the morning. Yeah, he wrote for the Times newspaper, the front. He uncovered who I was 15 years ago and he published my name. And this is Stephen Lennon. And he unmasked me. I kept in contact of him. He's quite. Look, he'd done his job. He's got a job to do. He was fair. Yeah, I kept in contact with him. So when I got these covert recordings before I made my documentary, I contacted him and said, you won't believe what I've just got. I've got Panorama faking news, fabricating news, making up news. Panorama. He's like, what? I said. And he come and met me and he listened to them and he was like, oh, my God, you know how big this is? I goes, yeah, of course I do, yeah. He goes, right. And he went, he took. Took them all to his editors. He come back to meet me next day. He said, tommy, I'm not allowed to run it. I said, you're not allowed to run it? Do you mean not allowed to run it? He said, we're not allowed to run it. That's not free media then, is it? You said to me yesterday how big this is? He goes, yeah, it's massive, but it's not going to be run. And now the proof of this, try and find, watch my documentary, Panadrama, their programs called Panorama. I call mine Panadrama. Yeah, because it's all lies. Now, if they're doing that to me, me, who else are doing it to? 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[Glenn Beck]

Let me ask you. We are way out of time. You're fascinating. I had a conversation with Charlie Kirk three years before he died. And we were just having a private conversation talking about what was coming. And, and he asked me and I said the only thing that's left is war and assassinations. And he said, wow. And I said, he said, do you think they would go after Trump years before? And I said, oh, yeah. But I said, charlie, I think they're going to go after people like us as well. And we talked about that for a while and I regret now not, not saying to him a question I want to ask you. First of all, you seem pretty committed to go all the way, no matter what comes your way. True.

[Tommy Robinson]

I believe I'm meant to be doing this. I don't believe I have a choice.

[Glenn Beck]

God forbid something happens to you, what do you want people to. How do you want people who follow you or support you to react to?

[Tommy Robinson]

Do I believe that in history, defining moments change the course of a nation. That's what happens. Bloody Sunday changed the course of the conflict in Northern Ireland. No one knew what that moment would be. A moment will come that's going to change the direction of Europe. We've been working for it for 15, 16, 17 years to try and awaken the public. We're at a stage now where the public are awakened. I think that when they put me in jail in 2017, I was putting there to be killed. I, I've been in. There's six, as I said, six Muslims got caught. Guns. I just got named in this month's ISIS publication to be killed. I think that when they put me in jail that in 2017, they realized that if I was killed, they might spark a revolution in Britain. So I've detailed everything they've done done. I think that the public have been pushed so far. We have. We don't allow them to dictate to us who we are. We are organizing peaceful rallies, celebrations, culture, identity, music, art, love. We love our country. We're not going to give it away. And they are trying to give it away. They've successfully destroyed it in 60 years. Through weakness and cowardice. I want a. I want. Which we're in the process of doing now. We've built the United Kingdom Movement, Movement which is now at millions on the streets. We want to unite the kingdom and unite the West. This is far bigger than us. It's far bigger. This is Western civilization. That's what this is about. Now, unless you have uni of all Western civilizational groups across every Western nation, we're going to lose. So our, Our future beyond. Our next event on May 16 is to unite the West. And for all of these groups, I've traveled, I went to see Salvini in Italy. I went to see Eric Zamor in France. I've been contacted the leaders of Fox, I've contacted the members of the AfD, say, Listen, we need to celebrate our identity. And that's what we're trying to do. Instead of being against something, we. We're going for something before the best civilization the world has ever seen. We're for our culture and identity, individual nations. And it's time we celebrate it and we put back our identity. Because I believe that these people who aren't voting, they're not voting because it's politics. And I don't think you're going to get them through politics. You're going to get them through culture and identity. So our goal is to.

[Glenn Beck]

It can be really frightening when it's not rooted to principles. It's rooted to culture and identity.

[Tommy Robinson]

It is principles. So we, what we've done is we got. When I. When I was giving back my voice from Elon Musk, I flew back to the uk. I was defeated. I was. I was abroad, divorced. They broke my family. They'd bankrupt me. Through the courts, through lies. Just come out of jail again. I left, I fled. Yeah. And then I was in a dark place. Elon Musk picked me up. Give me back my voice. I flew back to the UK, organized a meeting and I. Of 10, 15, whether you call them influencers, Katie Hopkins, Cole Benjamin, Mayor Tusi, these are big names in the uk, have all faced attack. But now they're all back. And he's got half a million. He's got a million. So we all sat down and we spent two days together and said, British culture's at risk here. Yeah. We need to stop looking at our egos because everyone's got an ego. Yeah. And we need to stop looking at what we disagree on and we need to understand what we agree on. So we spent those two days getting down from 10 points to five points points. And our five points were Judeo Christian culture. That's what built these nations. That's what built us. Whether you're Christian, whether you, whatever you are, this is what built us the Ten Commandments. It's a great 80 for life. We need to build on that. Yeah. We need to get back to our roots. And because a void has been filled where we've lost our identity and certainly our religious belief system. So Judeo Christian culture, we're against the LGBTQ indoctrination of children, sexualization of children. Don't care what you're doing, you're adult. Stop messing with the kids.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Tommy Robinson]

We're against mass immigration, we're against Islam, and we're for free speech. That's it. We just need to agree on these five principles. And if we agree on these five principles here today, which we did, and we worked together, took us months to get the final points. We were trying to. We wanted everyone to make a pledge, a pledge of allegiance, like you do for your stars and stripes. We wanted people to publicly make a pledge. And the pledge is to protect these five values. And we're going to work together against everything to protect these five values. And when we bought those people together, we said, if we press a button now, if I make a video about copy culture, if I make a video about May 16, our events, our movement, we focus in on. We had an event this year called Putting Christ Back into Christmas. This Christmas, we will have the biggest event and people fly from all over Europe to it. We're going to put identity culture back on the map. We're going to make it cool to be British again. You're not going to make us feel ashamed of who we are. Our kids are going to grow up smiling, knowing who they are, and that's where they got us to. So if we agree this and we press a button now, we can beat the media. We can. All of our different platforms, all these ones in the United States who are working against, against, not against each other, but separately, if you can unite them, which again, we are working on a vision, a four year vision of how we do this. And it's. And it's beyond Britain, because citizen journalists need to be given power and support across the Western world. And that's how we fight the media. And that's how we get our message out. Because these debates, they're not on cnn. It's not on Fox News. Yeah, it's on Tick Tock. Unless you start getting Tick Tock, Snapchat that. Unless you start getting the New youth and you start. Nick Shirley has done an amazing job. Amazing what can be done. This is what citizen journalism can do. Yeah. You need another thousand ex earlys. We all do. That doesn't mean. And they need help. So we put together a vision of working together, of unifying. Doesn't mean it's not going to be easy. None of this is easy. But yeah, that. And if, and if they manage to successfully eliminate me as they did Charlie Kirk, I think they'll cause an uprising that they can't handle in Great Britain and I think that they may rewind that up themselves. They've tried to break me through my mind. Through the most recent case of seven months. I went into prison. I was released seven months later without talking to another prisoner. I didn't see anyone. So they've gone for these tactics and it did. It did. I said, I feel like this is part of my healing being in America, because I feel free for the first time I come here. It's like, wow. I feel like I'm, I haven't. It's been difficult even since coming out. All of it is.

[Glenn Beck]

So it's good to have you here.

[Tommy Robinson]

It's great to be here.

[Glenn Beck]

Thank you so much for everything you've, you've done and are doing.

[Tommy Robinson]

Thank you to America. Because if you didn't vote for Donald Trump, I don't think any of us would have hope. I think that when you talk about Donald Trump and I hear Americans talking about saving America, it's like, I don't think, like it's far bigger than that. You, when you vote for Donald Trump and, and, and when Trump had those four years, all these things had to happen. Biden had to have that four years of power so the, the world could see a puppet. We had to see how bad it could get. You got, you got your midterms coming up and people need to get ready, man.

[Glenn Beck]

I think, you know, it's really interesting. I think they will build statues Donald Trump all over the world before they'll build them here.

[Tommy Robinson]

Oh, well, they're going to build them in Iran once they get freedom. They're going to build them in Cuba once they get free freedom.

[Glenn Beck]

Venezuela.

[Tommy Robinson]

The British public, this in 2016. Americans were too scared as well. Yeah, you've elected Donald Trump, but people are scared to speak about a lot of these issues. Brits were as well. No, they're not. Britain loves Donald Trump. The British public don't believe the media. Do not believe any of these nonsense of left wing educated or university educated. The people which is what Donald Trump's movement was about. We, our media, we call we're by the people, for the people. The people love Donald Trump. The people love, love the strength the people love. I think Elon Musk won't be remembered for putting people up in Mars. I think he's going to be remembered for savings, free speech, putting his name. And you know, when people step into these fights like the Donald Trumps or like Elon Musk, they risked everything. Didn't have to. They didn't have to. Elon Musk didn't have to get involved in this. He didn't have to. He could have continued to be the most successful man in the world and quite live the comfortable life that he was living anyway. He chose the battle. He chose free speech. He saw the importance of a bit and we're forever grateful.

[Glenn Beck]

Thanks to.

[Tommy Robinson]

Thanks.

[Glenn Beck]

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